Q4OS - A Fast and Friendly Debian Linux System With a Windows Installer
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- Q4OS is a linux system based on Debian stable that comes in two main variants - Plasma and Trinity.
It is designed to use minimal resources and it even offers a windows installer so that users can install the system in a folder on a windows NTFS partition - similar to the old Ubuntu Wubi from many years ago.
Apart from this feature, it can also be installed in the usual way. And what sets it apart from vanilla Debian is it's user friendliness.
Want a different desktop? It's a couple of clicks away. Want a desktop that automatically sets the right resolution? This seems to do it. Want to install non-free codecs? Again, just hit a button on the welcome screen.
This is the first time I've used this distro and I've come away with the impression that it is fast, stable and built to last - the current release is supported for years.
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Been using it since first releases - fast, stable and can't be faulted imho glad its getting more attention.
Well, hallelujah! I am nearly 80 and have only a Windows background since 1992. I am absolutely fed up with MS. When MS decided to require an account for Win 11, it was the straw that broke the camels back for me. My old mind is really challenged to start all over and learn a truly different op sys. Somehow, I am going to do it! With help like this of yours, I am going to make it. I just thank you so much for your kind efforts. I wish you well. Thanks for such a thoughtful effort.
Sorry to hear about the relative Steve, glad they're doing okay.
With so many people wanting to try Linux and failing at setting up dual-booting, I think Q4OS should be mentioned more than it is. Hopefully this video will get found by those interested. Seems easy to install, and easier to uninstall if they find Linux isn't their cup of tea. Don't know how YT search algorithms work, but this should be at the top of the list. Could save people a lot of headaches and frustration. Well done.
Thanks Rob, and pleased to say my mum is recovering. Gave us all a nasty shock though
I have been using Q4OS for two to three years on an old Dell desktop without any problems. It runs as sweet as a nut and is as stable as you would expect from a Debian Distro.The installer being changed to Calamares is a blessing from the previous version.
I've been distro hopping since roughly 2008. I always keep searching for the next thing with the most polish but the lowest resources etc. I've been using Arco for about 3 months now and scrapped it last night to use this distro. I'm amazed at what I have and what it consumes
Q4OS is an awesome distro. I use it off and on. I mainly stick to pure Debian but Q4OS I think is a gem among debian based distros. Another great video!!😀 Hope your relative gets well soon!
Many thanks
27:23. No it's not running within windows: the windows OS is not running -- that's because you selected Q4OS in the Windows boot process. Just like Grub, the boot loader drops out at the point it hands control over to the Linux kernel.
What it is doing is running it's files on a Linux filesystem looped onto a single large Windows file, as you demonstrated a bit later.
It would therefore be fair to say it's "installed" within windows, but not that it runs within Windows.
That's a small performance hit and a very small memory hit, much more efficient on both than running a virtual PC within a Windows OS.
That's why you are so impressed with the figures
Loving it. Good tool to 'convince' people who are new to Linux or hesitate to make the switch to Linux.
Just what i was thinking.
That was quite interesting thanks OTB. It does remind me of how we used to install Wubi in order to run Ubuntu in our enterprise laptops 💻, I like this. Great stuff, I’ll try it on the family PC which is 3x more powerful than my main Arch system. So this should actually run more faster than it would on my Linux bare metal.
"Our Wonderful NHS" Yes indeed, people have a go at the UK (mainly the British!) but it is a free to all health care service based on need rather than the ability to pay. Hoping your loved one has a speedy recovery.
Well, this is interesting. Even the "full" installation is way lighter than Debian installation. And while I don't really like Calamares, it's still an interesting distro. I was going to switch to Debian, but now thinking of switch to Q4OS instead.
Thanks for a review.
You’re welcome
Great video . It was great deal of help for me , thanks OTB !
Quite a good system, very solid and one nifty thing is....I had an install cd from a year ago and when I used it it automagically installs the latest version with all the updates and is up to date when installed....not 1 year's worth of updates waiting like almost any other linux installer disc lol. So fast and very solid. Well thought touches to make a quick setup to get up to speed.
i tried this distro just once but was quickly impressed, all the little details and helpers while it's rock solid like you said, simple to use and has such a small footprint on ressources, i think it would be my first choice if anyone like my father wanted to drop windows and instead wanted to try a linux distro he could handle - i still don't really trust that winfx distro to stay stable over the next upgrades, but i'm pretty sure q4os would run for a while even with a user unknowing how it actually works
It is now my favorite system. I enjoy TDM. I also have the feeling, that Debian is more snappy and faster than any Ubuntu. Maybe I am mistaken, but TDM on Q4OS/Debian is faster than Lubuntu on my machines.
Thanks for a nice review.
My dear friend!!!! I have been used this distro from may 2020, 1*) with the .exe and after I do dual boot with Windows 10.
Q4OS its fantastic!! Marvelous!!.
In 2019 I download and I try in a VM and I liked.
Its very good for people who are transitioning from Windows to GNU-Linux, of course, you have another distros for this too, like Linux mint or another.
Yet another thoughtful and insightful review. I think I am going to try out Q4OS on my Raspberry Pi 4! Thanks and cheers!!
I have yet get my Pi 4, but Trinity sounds right for Pis, especially remote ones. One use I have is Software defined Radio. The Pi and USB radio dongle may be some distance from my controling machine. I have tried Debian, but my skills are not up to it alone. Q4OS may help that.
About 3 years ago I thought I was going to make the change to Linux and distro hopped around trying different ones that were recommended at the time for a newbie. Well, I guess I just didn't try the right ones. Anyway I gave up the idea because nothing I tried seem to fit with my old mind. But I saw this video, and it renewed my desire to switch as I'm just so fed up with Microsoft. I decided to do it within virtualbox so that I could throw it away in case I didn't care for it. I have been dumb struck as to how much easier this Q4 OS is! I also thought that I wanted to probably run the Trinity desktop as it looked a lot more like what I was used to. So I built another machine with the Trinity desktop instead. Well, that was not at all easier to get around in like I had thought it would be. Before I tried the trinity I was really liking the q40s. Now, I've come back to it without the Trinity desktop and just straight out of the download. I really, really like the plasma and it seems almost a breeze for me to find the things I need and get them done. I would recommend that to anyone who's in my situation of needing to do something else other than MS. I have decided that I like it so much that I'm going to make q4s the host and run win 10 in the virtualbox only as I need a particular program based on Windows. Now, if that is a sane idea, that's what I'm going to try. I'm going to build several boxes with win 10 and store them on other drives and then format my hard disk for Linux and install Q4 OS as the main OS. Then, I will use one of the boxes as need be which won't be often. I think I have this thing whipped now. It is only because of you, old tech bloke, that I have gotten this far and I certainly appreciate more than you know your help. It is also great for me to read these comments that give me little boosts along the way. If anyone sees anything wrong with what my plan is, I would certainly appreciate thoughts on that, too. Thanks.
@@byrw9557 Glad to hear you're progressing again towards GNU/Linux :) I can't say much about Win10 running in a VM (I definitely got rid of Windows 7-8 years ago ^^), but installing a GNU distro on its own Linux filesystem is the best result you can get. And I share with you this love for KDE Plasma - by far my preferred desktop environment. Good luck to you!
@@Valdoror I had some really old genealogy files I didn't want to lose. I installed WIN98SE in VB with Q4OS as the host and read all my old files that had actually been written on Win3.1! Worked like a champ!!! I probably would not have tried it without the encouragement and help from OTB and others here! Can't thank everyone enough!!!
Great video, very helpful Thanks
13:33" " I have been very surprised by Plasma" OMG...but in Arch L one can get Plasma down 400MB... I have tested it..I see this Debian lab experiment Q4OS as a very interesting multi platforms distro.. but far from what simple wubi once was.. this Q4OS seems a superior experimental approach. Hugs from Chile.
The Trinityversion became my absolut favourite Lightweightdistro, after LxLe fell round 3 years behind Ubuntu / The new Q4OS Aquarius with Trinity simply rocks on very old Laptops 😎
great job i enjoyed the video thanks.
I love Q4OS with the Trinity desktop, for me it's the best distro out there. 😉👍
Thank you for this review. Downloaded the latest files just now. There have been regular updates, quietly issued over the months.
Q4os-winsetup.zip, 17.7 MB (18,574,061 bytes)
Q4os-3.12-x64.r3.iso, 894 MB (937,426,944 bytes)
When installed on my SSD, it defaults to one Windows folder: "debian". This was in Microsoft NTFS compressed on my Dell XPS notebook.
It has 19 Files, 8 Folders, claiming to use 19.5 GB (21,007,476,245 bytes).
In actual space on my SSD, NTFS-compressed, it only used 1.68 GB (1,810,587,648 bytes)
The contents of this folder "debian" seems not yet to be populated, so probably will be done after reboot..
Great vid OTB!! I’m sorry to hear about your relative, but glad they’re pulling through.
Q4OS looks quiet interesting. I wonder if you could manually change it to testing/bullseye. I’ve been meaning to give Debian a try. Hope all is well, much love from Hawaii. Keep up the great work. Thank you 🤙🏽
Cheers
I just recently decided to get my old ASUS x552ea laptop sorted out. The charger wasn't working and the battery died out a while ago. The laptop itself still works, but I never bothered to touch it, due to working from home again and using a laptop capable of some gaming with STO.
Anyway, since I started watching your videos, and others, about Linux distros, I've been slowly downloading some ISOs and trying them out in Live sessions, to see which one I like.
After seeing this video, I think I found the one I might be using on real hardware.
Thanks, OTB!!
You're very welcome
I used the windows installer of Q4OS and now i have another linux distro to play without having to format my laptop to try it! I'm surprised, it's a very good OS to play with :)
Thanks Steve, nice one again! And don't you dare ever apologizing again about family or friends stuff blocking you from doing whatever ;-) Cheers mate, take care! Looking forward to next week.
I agree Peppe... Family comes First in my book too!
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Dang that's quite nice. Steve, you've got to stop with tempting me with these disto hopping videos lol! Just kidding. But I am tempted... again.
Ha ha, let’s face it we don’t need much to tempt us to hop
I know in you last reply you said you had a family issue. I am glad to hear that all is well and the surgery made thing better...
As for the video, that is quite interesting... I'm not a KDE fan but I like the Trinity (XP) desktop, brings back good memories... :-)
I remember Wubie now, I forgot all about it, but remember I did give Ubuntu a try with it back in the day and like you said it kinda work... Lol
The new implantation of this is a cool idea to give Window users a way to try Debian. I hope it works as good as it looks!
The standard Q4OS looks good as well and I do like the look of the Trinity Desktop quite a lot ...
Thanks for the video and I'm glad everyone is well once again. I know the recovery is a bit daunting but all is good in the long run of thing!
Take Care!
LLAP
Cheers Bruce. Yes it was my mum but she’s a tough lady and seems to be recovering now. Was a real shock last Sunday though and it was touch and go for a while
@@OldTechBloke I'm glad she is doing well! Mums are on top of the list. Very few if any reach that far except for kids... :)
Mums are the best! :-)
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Uncle OTB, with his fire side chat, in his smoking jacket & slippers with a brandy & cigar in hand.
I agree that is part of the appeal to me too... I like to think of OTB as my philosopher as he is always thinking things through down to the last detail as it were... Lol The Brandy & Cigar is a nice touch!
That is a great picture in my head, Thanks you.... ):-D
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@@BrucesWorldofStuff That was a nice image to have burned into my brain! :)
@@miyolinux Yes it is... :-)
You know it has just occurred to me that OTB reminds me of Burl Ives, just needs a bit of a beard... :-)
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Ha ha, may have to follow that one up
Nice! Even though i've not watched it I probably know it would be one of the best! 👍👍👍
I have played with Q4OS and Sparkylinux on an old Acer Aspire One AOA150 32bit architecture that I bought for $5 at the thrift store to set up a little laptop for my ham radio room and I decided that Q4OS is the best one to use for what I want to do with it. My other Acer AOA150 that I bought new years ago still has Winblows XP for the times I unfortunately must use it and I dual boot with Linux Mint 18 and it runs pretty well with Mint. Both are only 1Gb of memory. I have ran Linux since I fell completely out of love for Winblows in the late 90s and I will never go back to Winblows on purpose. I have used Puppy Linux for years but I have never really liked how it works as far as upgrading and installing programs and so on. It runs beautifully and extremely fast but it just feels like it's a constant project, whereas Q4OS feels like a pretty well put together and polished hot rod. And I love the option to install Synaptic Package Manager for even more access to the Debian software repositories. I think Sparky might be a little faster but it has problems with trying to install anything from Synaptic and gives errors that I don't feel like sorting out when I can just put Q4OS on and go to town. I would love to see if I can get some memory and upgrade these little netbooks and also install some SSD hard drives and really speed these up! I think anyone who tries Q4OS is in for a big surprise. Seems like a very nice flavor of Linux and especially for the older 32bit architecture.
Glad everything worked out ok with your family member
Thank you!
Nice!
7:13 maybe not these speeds, but my old laptop is maxed at 512MB RAM, making this the perfect option for me.
Hi OTB. Love your channel, by far the best Linux information available. As an ex Microsoft user I installed Makulu Lindoz after seeing your video & absolutely love it. Just had to ask . Do you suggest moving to Flash? It looks great. Also the only issue on Makulu, no thumbnails... any idea OTB? All the best.
Hi, I haven't looked at flash yet but may be one for the future. Not sure about the thumbnails, I don't have the vm any more so can't check it out
@@OldTechBloke Thanks for the reply OTB.
I'm using Q4OS Centaurus on a 2003 T23 Thinkpad with the Trinity desktop. Runs really well, despite the meagre 1GB RAM and the ancient Pentium III processor. Firefox ESR and Palemoon are both very usable browsers with this setup, though they struggle to run TH-cam. Also DVDs on VLC and other media players aren't watchable, but I'm not sure why, as the laptop runs them okay in Windows XP Black Edition with the MPC-HC player.
The Wubi-type installation seems to be a cross between Virtualbox and dual booting, though closer to the former - interesting that you actually refer to it as 'Virtualbox' a couple of times!
No. Wubi is closer to the latter (dual booting). It's actually a dual boot solution, with Q4OS being stored in a file on the Windows filesystem (whereas "in normal circumstances", Q4OS would be stored on a dedicated Linux filesystem/disk partition). That's the only difference with a "normal" installation of a GNU/Linux distro (plus the fact that the bootloader is the Windows one, instead of Grub).
OldTechBloke referred to Virtualbox because he used Virtualbox to host a Win10 VM in this video ;) (only for demonstration purposes)
Hey, this seems to be the same old Windows installer Ubuntu used to include years ago.
i find it hard to connect wifi...may be it cannot detect wifi after install?
im very noob to linux and i cant find a tutorial or documentation for this distro. installed it but i cant seem to get it to connect to a wifi. can anyone help?
Just installed q4os plasma version it's extremely beautiful kinda like android, very friendly
I've tried this Q4 over recommendations from web for atom pc, feels like forever to install it. Not that responsive. Back to the old LXLE
Thank you so much for the tip already installed and running Plasma ...Real good....Just one question... could Install SparkyLinux alongside Q4OS?...Thank you and Keep Safe! Best Regards (as you may be awared I falll in the dummy category.... ;)
Lol we all fall in that category sometimes. But yes, no reason why you couldn’t put sparky alongside it. At one point I had 3 or 4 distros all running off a single SSD
@@OldTechBloke Merci Beaucoup..Thanks a lot Sir!
Linux Mint used to have a windows installer. I liked the way, that I could switch between Mint and Windows. If I decided to uninstall Mint, I could so delete as a program, and not affect the partitions. Bad move Mint not to include the windows installer now. At least Q4OS is my choice of distro with a windows installer.
Actual have an old THinkpad 570E/600E series, 398Mhz PII and maxed out with 198Mb memory. I ALSO have an older Thinkpad700 series(ONly THinkpad with a tiltable keyboard) that still has Win95 on it, 10GB HDD, EIGHT, yes 8 MB of memory. YUP, 😀could be fun installing that on my
It is debian-based linux distro and created by a german. I must try it.
May i get sound driver and wifi driver sostware ?
I would like to understand about security situations when installed within windows. Are the usual windows vulnerabilities there as if you had booted windows? Or, it more secure? I have to decide whether to go solo with Q4OS , dual boot, or install Q4OS within windows. I am looking for as much security as is reasonable for a very heavily used home situation. Please educate me if someone will. Thanks. Btw, I am very glad to see you put your family FIRST !!!
When installed within windows it remains more secure than windows itself but a good idea to run a firewall. You don’t need antivirus though as the risk is very low
@@OldTechBloke okay, would your suggestion of running a firewall when running q40s is installed within windows be the same firewall I already have set up for Windows? Or would it be a separate firewall installed into the Q4OS? Sorry to take your time with my ignorance! But, I do thank you very much.
Separate firewall in Linux. I would suggest ufw
@@OldTechBloke Okie dokie. I thank you so much!
Just for giggles I installed the 32bit version on to an old Pentium 4 with 1 Gb and it ran very well indeed...
well, i tried it on a pentium 3 with half a gigaherz, half a gig of ram and it was still somewhat useable - even snappier than windows XP on the same hardware.
unlike XP tho, you actually get a modern browser
I tried it and idk why it drains my laptop's battery wayyy faster than it does in windows.
before installing it i get 5hrs of battery on just windows 10.
after installing q4os, my battery life on both windows and q4 drops to 1.5 hrs... and i am unable to fix it.
after that i uninstalled q4os and things went back to normal.
can anyone help me with this? i actually liked q4 but i am unable to use it as i prioritise my battery life more than the OS.
Can I install it on a 2nd drive
Someone gave me an ACER ASPIRE one running Windows XP, I'm going to try Q4OS Windows installer on it, thanks for your video.
Can it be installed on Windows XP and used safely on the internet?
If installed on a computer directly, using the TDE, this OS should be great for what OTB would call a "ThinkPad banger". I recently bought an R50e, so this video is useful.
if you don't need XP to run any particular windows only legacy software, you could just ditch XP for good and install Q4OS as the only OS on your R50 - i have the R40 and i upgraded the crap out of it: first thing i did was beef up the RAM to 2gb and throw out the dog slow 4200RPM HDD for a 2.5" IDE SSD. mine came without a wifi card installed so i put a wireless N card in there (had to install a bios patch because otherwise the laptop will not boot with a card installed that isn't on the certified hardware whitelist)
...will it dual boot with Windows 11 now...?
Hi, I can't get past this page on my Q4OS install. Any advice?
"Debian GNULinux 10 debian tty1
debian login: adminq (automatic login)
Linux debian 4.19.0-13-amd64 #1 SHP Debian 4.19.160-2 (2020-11-28) x86 _64
The programs included with the Debion GLinux system are free software the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the individual files in /usr/share/doc//copyright.
Debian GNU/Linux comes with ASOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by applicable law.
adminq@debian: ~$
That's exactly how it appears
there was c:\debian directory
Hello there.
I'm looking for a volunteer C++ coder to modify only two Mate functions. I can do it by adding "actions" but I'd rather do it directly like in Peppermint Os. If you can refer me to some one to help me with my open source project, would be appreciated.
I'm happy to ask around but to be honest I don't know that many devs
Hope all is well with your mum now. Intersting distro. Strange name though.
Thanks Johan
Why do I always have to login and type startx every time I boot? I have tried to set auto login with no luck? I want it to boot into desktop automatically?
You need to install a login manager like lightdm. It should be installed by default, it was for me
@@OldTechBloke ok that's. I changed distro now. Antix seems much faster.
How to use both speaker and mic at same time in Bluetooth speaker?
Just configure it in pulse audio control
I got this working on a computer from 2001
Is the wubi-alike install a real Linux? Or is is running with an NTFS file system?
It runs on ntfs
I think that Ubuntu can be installed in Windows aswell, i think that it is in the windows store
You can install the core of the system, but it needs various workarounds to behave like an actual graphical install of Ubuntu, when you run it after installing it from the store it will only have the terminal and you will need an X Window Manager to run any graphical apps or desktop environments (along with some extra config)
Is it WUBI, updated?
Is it WUBI UEFI?
Is it a fork of either of these?
I wondered if it's a reworking of the same ideas more or less from the ground up, but the fact that it calls it WUBI is a hint otherwise
I'm not entirely sure to be honest but I think it's a fork
Can i remove kde plasma?
I don't see why not
Hey, now would turn useful your "good old, RIP" windows machine :D, I got Q4 on a multiboot stick with plasma, looks like , lately ,you choose to dig ito plasma distros... do we have to know smth :D ? You suppose to be a mate xVM guy, perchance, secretly you choose to turn to the "dark side" , plasma/rpm ?
Awesome review, as usual, and the new wubi ( let's call it new-wubi) it's interesting, I'l l give it a spin, that's for shure.
PS:
I ain't no very familiar with "Likes/Dislikes", but what is the point in dislike a OS review, focus on discover certain particular fetures of one OS or another...., I can not immagine what could be unpleasant here...
Me neither mate. But no, I won’t be moving to plasma but I like to take a look at everything out there :-)
@@OldTechBloke Oh c'mmon... everything out there? Hey I'm around here since mandrake venice, and still believe that one human live wouldn't be enough just to scratch the surface of "everything out there", also because the linux world evolve so fast that it is impossible to follow everything... but that's one of the best part of a linux user, you'll never get bored ,unless you decide to :D
Back in topic, I would say that a copy-to-ram option, in live mode would be the "honey pot" awesome,rock-solid deb plasma, can't see no flows here...., btw few twiks and persitency is on the roll
21:06 aaaaugh! Windows on an OTB video
Probably the last 😁
i was tried this dud..
My LC 575 Macintosh had a 33Mhz processor, 8MB RAM and could run browsers, quicktime video and a bunch more. I will never understand why today a Desktop environment takes up 400+MB ram while doing nothing but sitting there. I also don't understand why browsers these days are larger than my LC 575's entire hard drive (250MB SCSI) How much of the size today is enhancements and how much is just lazy bloated coding I wonder. If my LC 575 could run video, music, text, games even on 8MB RAM, why on earth do we need gigabytes to run the stuff we have today (When used in a conservative manner) even my old 200Mhz PC could run Lightwave to do 3D modeling. I wish there was a truly minimal Linux which used resources more like that of my old macintosh, but it seems they all require so much. What is being called "Light weight" these days is really not light weight at all.
i think most of it is indeed lazy coding, but the biggest offenders these days are not the software devs, it's the website creators ... picture this: i sit there with my 10 year old laptop, write my emails, print my letters while i listen to music at the same time ... 5 to 10 applications open and all is fine, the machine does not get hot and does respond quickly ... CPU is at barely 15%, not even a third of the total ram is used, no swap activity.
... then i close all these applications, open up ONE browser tab to buy a new bookshelf and suddenly the whole thing starts lagging and dragging while the fan goes all jet engine ... just plain old firefox with nothing but an adblocker going on a freshly installed OS ... the CPU is at 110% and the OS is swapping like a boss ... what happened ????
i mean ... why the fuck does a website without video playback or other heavy multimedia content eat up hundreds of megabytes and how the fuck does it manage to stress out dual and even older quad core CPUs to 99.9% ... is ikea.com mining crypto in the background or is something else going wrong here ?
@@KenjiUmino Well hello! They got to record your mouse clicks and key strokes in real time and transmit to NSA database. Computer lags to ensure all internet data is saved. It appears to be inherent to the internet itself. If a browser builds in back doors they can be rewarded with faster load times whereas those who value privacy work against data collection software which uses more processing power on our end.
Doesn't install. Cleaned disk, other OS's install and boot fine. Shame, looks fast. Grub loader fails to install.
First
Show Cinnamon
Eh you don't like forks.. However you like Mate isn't that a fork that's not really any different to the original.. It's just evolved so you should hate mate :-)
I liked gnome 2 and mate is the nearest I can get to it. The forks I object to are those that take something existing and just add a new theme or wallpaper. I’m fine with forks that add something unique
@@OldTechBloke how about forks of stuff that has been abandoned by the original developer?
or what if the project has moved in a direction that you don't like - like gnome2 VS gnome3 - if someone would maintain a fork of the original gnome2 without adding anything unique (like MATE did), just keeping it compatible with newer versions of X or wayland and whatnot - would you be fine with that ?
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Much rather use a virtual box than this windows installer thing
Me too but thought it was interesting
Yes, but on an older machine (towards the older end of their hardware spec) a virtual machine might run like a pig, if indeed it runs at all.
And it's good to be offered the choice.