They would be cool made out of oak or maple for ageing alcohol , could be a side hustle for you , barrels are really expensive but make those with a small stand would be better for storage on shelves , and for putting lables on ...just an idea
@@craftedbytimyt keep me in mind if you ever do make a couple out of oak or maple , if I could get one sent to me for like $60 bucks NZ I'd be really happy . I'm not sure on how it works if I transfer money from my NZ account to an Australian account dose it automatically change for exchange rate ....but yeah I'd be pretty happy
To seal it easier you could use an old pot to melt the beeswax, then dump it into the finished canteen, swish it around and then dump it back into the pot. Do that a couple times to get a nice even coating on the inside
@@natecus4926 Glad to hear yours turned out so well, if you want to please feel free to tag me on Instagram (@crafted_by_tim) I would love to see it! Regardless of how old this video is, it's always great to get better input and new ideas! Gives me a good reason to return to this idea in the future, Thanks again for your suggestion mate.
yea u was able to go to my beekeeper when he was melting down the wax he had and fill the whole canteen up too few dozen time sold it a short time after i made it
Nice job. If I may, here are some ideas from my own experience: 4:48 Wouldn't it be better to drill a hole in the middle, then dismantle the saw blade and pass it in the hole? It would avoid cutting the edge, even if it requires to dismantle the blade twice. 8:24 Waxing round things is much more easier if you make them spin (like on a lathe). If you don't have a lathe but the piece is quite small, you can manage to do it with almost anything rotating machine (e.g. a drill mounted on a vice). You have to make a small wooden or metal disk with 3 screws to maintain the piece (you'll need to do this on the inside of the pieces to avoid seeing the screw holes). Put a countersunk screw in the middle of this disk to hold it in the chuck of your rotating machine. Then launch the drill and just apply the wax on the wood, the friction will make it melt instantly and you'll be able to see how it is spread on the wood by watching the colour. 13:26 It is better to use a threaded bolt with a nut to hold the piece tight. 16:02 I also use this method to test the solidity of my works. ^_^'
Thanks for the help! unfortunately because I use a band-saw I can't pass the blade through the center of the flask Because the blade is one complete piece, if I was using a scroll saw that would have worked. Otherwise thanks for all the good Ideas, I will put them to use!
Well done mate! Try melting wax in a pot, then pour it inside the finished product, twisting & turning it around to make sure you apply the wax everywhere. Rinse& repeat multiple times to achieve perfect seal inside the bottle. Worked for me. ...have to admit, the inside never got wet from water 😉
Thanks for the suggestion. I will have to re visit this project soon maybe do a 2.0 version, some of the comments have been really helpful! happy crafting!
Heat canteens to 100 degrees in oven first then pour in melted wax. It will give you a better coat. And non porous woods like white oak would last forever. Good job tho good to see young man working with his hands
Down marks for wax onto future glue surfaces, sawdust into finish wax interior, and thick walls, but good on ye for the attempt. It’d have been worthy to use thinner wood and brewers pitch to line the canteen, maybe in a future project.
Instead of using friction (rubbing) and using a heat gun to waterproof the inside of your canteen before you assemble your canteen, why not wait til you’ve finished building it, then pour molten wax into the canteen, swirl the liquid wax around and pour out the excess. When I was younger I lived near a cooperage. The company made “slack” barrels for nails and small machine parts and casted parts. Slack barrels weren’t waterproof. The company also manufactured “tight” or waterproofed barrels to hold water, juices or other liquids. The “tight” barrels were made to more exacting standards, but also in the last part of its manufacturing process, the company poured melted wax into the tight barrels, swirled it around then poured out the excess.
It's so great to see young people working with wood, here in the USA, woodshop isn't taught in schools anymore as a standard because kids kept cutting there fingers off. Making skills like this a dying trend amongst adults. Great work, although in my opinion you should have used way more wax. Nonetheless everything else was damn great stuff.
I figured I didn't use enough wax but thank you for the complement something about learning wood and metal work was the fact that I could very easily cut off my phalanges and thus for I should take care with what I do, this I have tried to carry into every aspect of my life! I hope this video inspired you to make something or get someone else to make something, but anyway thanks for watching and happy crafting!
Or an easier way might be to rout out the thicker board (using a router of course) & then attach the thinner piece to the open end - that way you'd only have to cut 2 circles. I really like your jig though- clever. BTW, you could have just reversed a shop vac & sucked out the sawdust through the hole
cheers mate I'll keep trying to make stuff, thanks for the comment but if you have any criticism I don't mind a little bit of help to improve me as a maker and my channel as a whole. stay safe mate!
Just wanted to show a bit of a work around for those who don't have one, But you could of course use one from the beginning, thanks for the question mate!
yep thats the stuff their are other products that will do it but this is sort of an old school method, basically anything for sealing wooden cups will work well
I'm an old frame and trim carpenter that learns something every day. If you don't keep learning, your never become a craftsman. U young man, have mad skills and will be a very good craftsman the older u get. Keep up with your ideas and work ethics
@@paraplegichistoricalsports5700 cheers mate I really appreciate it hope to be doing this for a lot longer and I'm always willing to learn along the way!
that is a cool thought, it would probably be more waterproof then it currently is so if I can find some for cheap I might give it another go, cheers for the comment mate
@@angelus_solus I always try my best to reply to as many TH-cam comments I can (so if you ever have any questions or concerns I'll always try my best to help out). I look forward to giving it a go!
Have you given this project a go using a router? I've had good success using a shop made circle cutting jig that only cost me $10 in materials, and a couple of minutes to put together. A small plunge router would make good work of cutting out that inside part without leaving a joint for you. You can do all the circle cutting with the same jig as well.
aww that's wicked cool I had no idea that you could do this but did a bit of a search of router circle cutting jigs, they are awesome, I should give that a go! have a bit of a mortal fear of a routers though so it might take me a bit to warm up to it but thanks for the suggestion! thanks for the comment, stay safe and happy crafting thanks for the comment!
With a router and your circle cutting jig you can always take very little wood, until you get warmed up to it and familiar with it. Hard to get it wrong then. I have some logs down now that would serve well for making the blanks. I might have to do a video and show that shaping process. Fear of a certain tool helps you too. It makes you cautious so you don't hurt yourself.
yeah i tried to water-proof it the best I could with bees wax that worked for a bit but I found that it worked if I coated the inside with a water proof resin.
gday mate, I tried to water proof it with bees wax but it didn't work as well as I thought it would so in another attempt I used two part epoxy and it seemed to work better (if you can get your hands on some food safe stuff its probably better)
Instead of cutting the circle all the way through @ 5:10 why not mark how much border you need and drill a hole through with a drill press then cut the inside out using a band saw so you could have a complete, uncut circle? Nice video though.
because a Band saw has a complete unbroken circle as a blade which means you cant pass it through a border without cutting it, now that I have a scroll saw I would be able to pass the blade through my workpiece without having to cut through the border. thanks for the suggestion though! happy crafting!
Just glue it all together then when it's fine fuk with hot bee wax or paraffin then dump out for a water tight..... as you did you got wax in your glue joints so they will probably fail
haha yeah well I think its more about the joy of creating something you can call your own... or something like that, but anyway I hope you enjoyed it :)
thats awesome, I imagine most of that is leather work? I've always wanted to make my own western costume like what you see at single action events other cowboy shoots on account that my Dad is very into westerns, but leather isn't cheap so I have a feeling that might still be a ways off!
Instead of cutting the inner circle of the body piece on the band saw, Why not drill a small hole, draw a circle and make the inside cut with a scroll saw? Most scroll saws can cut up to around 50 mm thickness. The inner cutout doesn't need to be perfectly round, (nobody but you will see it) so you wouldn't need a jig-just cut freehand. Doing this you'd eliminate that cut through the body that looked like a pain to glue up. Then you'd only need use glue to attach the side pieces. (Sounds easier to me, plus I don't own a band saw.) Also, try drilling the outlet hole before attaching the second side piece. That would make it easy to clear out any sawdust or debris from the drilling process. Your plug for the outlet hole (made on the lathe) is nice, but a dowel tapered on a sander would work just as well. (It just wouldn't look as fancy and I don't own a lathe either-LOL.)
I agree that would make it a lot easier but at this time I didn't have a scroll saw at the time, as for the mouth piece your also right I should have done that before hand but thank you for all the advice I think I should go back to this at some stage as A LOT of people have given me really good advice for this project, ways I can improve or just little bits of advice, Thank you for being one of them!
Err, OK. So you had to do it the hard way first - but that is the way early craftsmen learned easier ways by tweaking their technique. These days its easier to learn from a skilled craftsman though I don't think colleges have many of those anymore. I know books are old fashioned but try a library. Turned out OK in the end except for waxing where glue goes - guaranteed to fall apart sooner or later.
still holding together now but I am sure there are better ways to do it, it's all about learning so I definitely wouldn't make this the same way. Thanks for the comment
Хаха, я думаю, ты прав, но эти планы (по большей части) предназначены для тех, у кого нет токарного станка. извините, если это не переводит хорошо, я использую Google Translate
fingers aren't important loving what you do is, also I recommend watching my introduction videos to my channel, if you wanna see how close I get to losing them :D
okay well for your sake, if anything drastic ever does happen I will be sure to not leave all of it in :,D and as for the videos I ain't stopping any time soon :)
I seemed to get by with about $3000 but hell you don't need a lathe you really just need the bandsaw ($300-500ish) and a drill of some kind ($25-50ish ($100+ drill press)) . At the end of the day you build up your workshop but there's always another way, it just takes longer or might be more difficult to do. But anyway I might see about doing some Cheaper projects down the track that are easier and you don't need an awful lot of tools to make. thanks for the comment!
They would be cool made out of oak or maple for ageing alcohol , could be a side hustle for you , barrels are really expensive but make those with a small stand would be better for storage on shelves , and for putting lables on ...just an idea
That's a wicked Idea, thanks for sharing!
@@craftedbytimyt keep me in mind if you ever do make a couple out of oak or maple , if I could get one sent to me for like $60 bucks NZ I'd be really happy . I'm not sure on how it works if I transfer money from my NZ account to an Australian account dose it automatically change for exchange rate ....but yeah I'd be pretty happy
@@kiwiprouddavids724 I'm not too sure if I'll get around to anything anytime soon, but I would really like to, I'll keep you posted mate!
@@craftedbytimyt than you 👍
To seal it easier you could use an old pot to melt the beeswax, then dump it into the finished canteen, swish it around and then dump it back into the pot. Do that a couple times to get a nice even coating on the inside
That's a great Idea, wish I had thought of that, thanks for the comment mate!
No problem, I just made a leather canteen and used that process to seal it, also I just saw that this video is actually 4 years old, turned out great
@@natecus4926 Glad to hear yours turned out so well, if you want to please feel free to tag me on Instagram (@crafted_by_tim) I would love to see it!
Regardless of how old this video is, it's always great to get better input and new ideas! Gives me a good reason to return to this idea in the future, Thanks again for your suggestion mate.
yea u was able to go to my beekeeper when he was melting down the wax he had and fill the whole canteen up too few dozen time sold it a short time after i made it
@@jenniferwhite6089 Nice mate, its always good to hear that sort of thing!
Nice job.
If I may, here are some ideas from my own experience:
4:48 Wouldn't it be better to drill a hole in the middle, then dismantle the saw blade and pass it in the hole?
It would avoid cutting the edge, even if it requires to dismantle the blade twice.
8:24 Waxing round things is much more easier if you make them spin (like on a lathe). If you don't have a lathe but the piece is quite small, you can manage to do it with almost anything rotating machine (e.g. a drill mounted on a vice). You have to make a small wooden or metal disk with 3 screws to maintain the piece (you'll need to do this on the inside of the pieces to avoid seeing the screw holes). Put a countersunk screw in the middle of this disk to hold it in the chuck of your rotating machine. Then launch the drill and just apply the wax on the wood, the friction will make it melt instantly and you'll be able to see how it is spread on the wood by watching the colour.
13:26 It is better to use a threaded bolt with a nut to hold the piece tight.
16:02 I also use this method to test the solidity of my works. ^_^'
Thanks for the help! unfortunately because I use a band-saw I can't pass the blade through the center of the flask Because the blade is one complete piece, if I was using a scroll saw that would have worked. Otherwise thanks for all the good Ideas, I will put them to use!
Most band saw blades are a continuous loop, now I have a small jigsaw that uses copying saw blades that would work great
Well done mate!
Try melting wax in a pot, then pour it inside the finished product, twisting & turning it around to make sure you apply the wax everywhere. Rinse& repeat multiple times to achieve perfect seal inside the bottle. Worked for me. ...have to admit, the inside never got wet from water 😉
Thanks for the suggestion. I will have to re visit this project soon maybe do a 2.0 version, some of the comments have been really helpful!
happy crafting!
Heat canteens to 100 degrees in oven first then pour in melted wax. It will give you a better coat. And non porous woods like white oak would last forever. Good job tho good to see young man working with his hands
Great job, my friend
Cheers mate!
Down marks for wax onto future glue surfaces, sawdust into finish wax interior, and thick walls, but good on ye for the attempt.
It’d have been worthy to use thinner wood and brewers pitch to line the canteen, maybe in a future project.
cheers mate I appreciate the complement.
I didn't know about brewers pitch, perhaps this is a project worth revisiting.
Instead of using friction (rubbing) and using a heat gun to waterproof the inside of your canteen before you assemble your canteen, why not wait til you’ve finished building it, then pour molten wax into the canteen, swirl the liquid wax around and pour out the excess. When I was younger I lived near a cooperage. The company made “slack” barrels for nails and small machine parts and casted parts. Slack barrels weren’t waterproof. The company also manufactured “tight” or waterproofed barrels to hold water, juices or other liquids. The “tight” barrels were made to more exacting standards, but also in the last part of its manufacturing process, the company poured melted wax into the tight barrels, swirled it around then poured out the excess.
sounds like a much better idea thanks for sharing!
It's so great to see young people working with wood, here in the USA, woodshop isn't taught in schools anymore as a standard because kids kept cutting there fingers off. Making skills like this a dying trend amongst adults. Great work, although in my opinion you should have used way more wax. Nonetheless everything else was damn great stuff.
I figured I didn't use enough wax but thank you for the complement something about learning wood and metal work was the fact that I could very easily cut off my phalanges and thus for I should take care with what I do, this I have tried to carry into every aspect of my life!
I hope this video inspired you to make something or get someone else to make something, but anyway thanks for watching and happy crafting!
At my school they have a half year home economics class and half year woodshop class and I live in the USA
good to hear its not all downhill but I still would like to see it a little more or at least the interest being shown to learn
I go to a tech school and 2 of the shops are for wood working
Or an easier way might be to rout out the thicker board (using a router of course) & then attach the thinner piece to the open end - that way you'd only have to cut 2 circles. I really like your jig though- clever. BTW, you could have just reversed a shop vac & sucked out the sawdust through the hole
thanks for the comment mate, I don't really like routers though but then again I kind of need the excuse to use them more often to get use to them.
I had a real cool knock for you Tim, but instead I will just say keep trying you can only improve..don't give up
cheers mate I'll keep trying to make stuff, thanks for the comment but if you have any criticism I don't mind a little bit of help to improve me as a maker and my channel as a whole.
stay safe mate!
i wanna hear the knock
Nice job buddy! Also, you have a very impressive shop and some grade "A" tools! You truly are a craftsman Sir!! Thanks for the video!! :)
well thank you very much mate its good to hear that!
Que cera usa para curar la cantimplora??
I used bees wax but you can use food safe resin, Good luck!
Nice. I would like to see you re do this video with improved editing.
That's a Good idea!
It would be easier to glue the bottle first and then pour in hot beeswax at the end to make it waterproof
Yes I agree, a few other commenters have pointed this out too. Thanks for the suggestion though!
Why did you not use the lathe earlier?
Just wanted to show a bit of a work around for those who don't have one, But you could of course use one from the beginning, thanks for the question mate!
Great Job!
cheers mate, hope you enjoyed!
What was that you used to seal the interior, beezwax?
yep thats the stuff their are other products that will do it but this is sort of an old school method, basically anything for sealing wooden cups will work well
I'm an old frame and trim carpenter that learns something every day. If you don't keep learning, your never become a craftsman. U young man, have mad skills and will be a very good craftsman the older u get. Keep up with your ideas and work ethics
@@paraplegichistoricalsports5700 cheers mate I really appreciate it hope to be doing this for a lot longer and I'm always willing to learn along the way!
DAMN FINE JOB.
cheers mate, I really appreciate your support!
It makes me wonder how it would work if you used saddle fender leather for the side panels. Just a thought.
that is a cool thought, it would probably be more waterproof then it currently is so if I can find some for cheap I might give it another go, cheers for the comment mate
Crafted by Tim Oh wow! You actually replied! I honestly wasn’t expecting that. If you do get some leather, I look forward to seeing how it turns out.
@@angelus_solus I always try my best to reply to as many TH-cam comments I can (so if you ever have any questions or concerns I'll always try my best to help out). I look forward to giving it a go!
Crafted by Tim You are amazing....and I’m subbing.
@@angelus_solus cheers mate I really appreciate it!
Have you given this project a go using a router? I've had good success using a shop made circle cutting jig that only cost me $10 in materials, and a couple of minutes to put together. A small plunge router would make good work of cutting out that inside part without leaving a joint for you. You can do all the circle cutting with the same jig as well.
aww that's wicked cool I had no idea that you could do this but did a bit of a search of router circle cutting jigs, they are awesome, I should give that a go! have a bit of a mortal fear of a routers though so it might take me a bit to warm up to it but thanks for the suggestion!
thanks for the comment,
stay safe and happy crafting
thanks for the comment!
With a router and your circle cutting jig you can always take very little wood, until you get warmed up to it and familiar with it. Hard to get it wrong then. I have some logs down now that would serve well for making the blanks. I might have to do a video and show that shaping process. Fear of a certain tool helps you too. It makes you cautious so you don't hurt yourself.
yeah that's what my D&T teachers used to say fear of something is just respect for it, not sure how well that applies to everything but still
Hi Tim!
What have u done at from 8;30 to 11;sth. Is that water-proofing the inside? What did u use? Did it work?
Cheers,
Raghar =]
yeah i tried to water-proof it the best I could with bees wax that worked for a bit but I found that it worked if I coated the inside with a water proof resin.
have uu use water proof? whts that?
cool bro
cheers mate!
hello Tim,,how u water proof it?
gday mate, I tried to water proof it with bees wax but it didn't work as well as I thought it would so in another attempt I used two part epoxy and it seemed to work better (if you can get your hands on some food safe stuff its probably better)
hmm..sure thanks lot. .. bye!!
no worries mate any time
eventually the water will swell up the wood fibers, just like a wooden boat.
Instead of cutting the circle all the way through @ 5:10 why not mark how much border you need and drill a hole through with a drill press then cut the inside out using a band saw so you could have a complete, uncut circle? Nice video though.
because a Band saw has a complete unbroken circle as a blade which means you cant pass it through a border without cutting it, now that I have a scroll saw I would be able to pass the blade through my workpiece without having to cut through the border. thanks for the suggestion though!
happy crafting!
Should it be called wooden canteen?
Just glue it all together then when it's fine fuk with hot bee wax or paraffin then dump out for a water tight..... as you did you got wax in your glue joints so they will probably fail
still holding up today but I gotta admit I haven't used it much, I think I should make another using this method, thanks for the tip!
Ah yeah, uh think I'll stick with my $5.00 G.I. issue plastic quart canteen. Not that you did a bad job but I don't have all the fancy tools for that.
haha yeah well I think its more about the joy of creating something you can call your own... or something like that, but anyway I hope you enjoyed it :)
Oh yes I make many things, holsters, knives, gun belts... I know what you mean.
thats awesome, I imagine most of that is leather work? I've always wanted to make my own western costume like what you see at single action events other cowboy shoots on account that my Dad is very into westerns, but leather isn't cheap so I have a feeling that might still be a ways off!
Yeah sadly leather is getting expensive , but show me anything that isn't these days.
only too true
I was just thinking you should use the lathe to make the mouth piece
yep I'm stupid
think of it as a cheap way of doing it
Instead of cutting the inner circle of the body piece on the band saw, Why not drill a small hole, draw a circle and make the inside cut with a scroll saw? Most scroll saws can cut up to around 50 mm thickness. The inner cutout doesn't need to be perfectly round, (nobody but you will see it) so you wouldn't need a jig-just cut freehand. Doing this you'd eliminate that cut through the body that looked like a pain to glue up. Then you'd only need use glue to attach the side pieces. (Sounds easier to me, plus I don't own a band saw.)
Also, try drilling the outlet hole before attaching the second side piece. That would make it easy to clear out any sawdust or debris from the drilling process. Your plug for the outlet hole (made on the lathe) is nice, but a dowel tapered on a sander would work just as well. (It just wouldn't look as fancy and I don't own a lathe either-LOL.)
I agree that would make it a lot easier but at this time I didn't have a scroll saw at the time, as for the mouth piece your also right I should have done that before hand
but thank you for all the advice I think I should go back to this at some stage as A LOT of people have given me really good advice for this project, ways I can improve or just little bits of advice, Thank you for being one of them!
Err, OK. So you had to do it the hard way first - but that is the way early craftsmen learned easier ways by tweaking their technique. These days its easier to learn from a skilled craftsman though I don't think colleges have many of those anymore. I know books are old fashioned but try a library. Turned out OK in the end except for waxing where glue goes - guaranteed to fall apart sooner or later.
still holding together now but I am sure there are better ways to do it, it's all about learning so I definitely wouldn't make this the same way.
Thanks for the comment
У него стоит токарный станок, а он на этом станке только пробочку вытачивает :) С токарным можно было вообще все работы выполнить.
Хаха, я думаю, ты прав, но эти планы (по большей части) предназначены для тех, у кого нет токарного станка.
извините, если это не переводит хорошо, я использую Google Translate
I’ll make er this arvo! Cheers
wicked I hope you enjoy!
Pun : dude, maybe lathe was invented after the civil War. 😂
apparently the first lathe was made in 1771 by a dude called Henry Maudslay but I wouldn't know I'm not that old 😂😂
@@craftedbytimyt The wood lathe is more than a thousand years old.
@@rickster4455 Really? thats sick!
Surprised you have all your fingers.
fingers aren't important loving what you do is, also I recommend watching my introduction videos to my channel, if you wanna see how close I get to losing them :D
I volunteer where there’s a woodshop with three workers who have missing fingers. They, and you, make me nervous. Keep up the good videos! 😀
okay well for your sake, if anything drastic ever does happen I will be sure to not leave all of it in :,D
and as for the videos I ain't stopping any time soon :)
Really easy really simple, You only need 5 thousand dollars worth of tools
I seemed to get by with about $3000 but hell you don't need a lathe you really just need the bandsaw ($300-500ish) and a drill of some kind ($25-50ish ($100+ drill press)) . At the end of the day you build up your workshop but there's always another way, it just takes longer or might be more difficult to do.
But anyway I might see about doing some Cheaper projects down the track that are easier and you don't need an awful lot of tools to make.
thanks for the comment!
Awesome !!! Believe me you are no idiot !!!
cheers mate, I'm glad you don't think so
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Gloves!
Where?
Sto nisi prikazao cime lepis drugu stranu nakon voskarenja ?????👎
Nisam mislio da je to važno, i nisam htio nikome dosaditi
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