Well they are just fish oil salesman. I don’t think if your job is “motivational speaker” that you really have a job. You just talk about how great someone is after they pay you.
I’m not gonna lie, I appreciate that Jason was upfront about having a connection with Gabby. I think it shows integrity! Side note: Tone Deaf saying “females” gave me the ick🫣
right, I thought his point was fair - like last season whatshername had an issue with whatshisname sleeping with multiple women and we all said that she should have mentioned that before but ithat her feelings are valid. they're valid here too. but the way he said it? "if the female..." nah. just nah. So dehumanizing. also weird to mention it so early on and mention it to the men, not the woman you're interested in. that's a conversation to have further along and with only the involved parties.
I think that something (significant) was said during their dinner conversation that Rachel did not like, that *wasn't shown*. She later in an ITM mentioned that "things can change so fast just due to one thing in a conversation". I think that she was into him before that "one thing".
@@onahi2025 People can't handle strong men with standards. I don't think he is perfect or super likable but he said what he said because he has a genuine conviction. If the girls and the guys are allowed to think about marriage why isn't he allowed to think about the sex part of that marriage. It's an expedient process you think about everything quickly.
I love that Rachel and Gabby are sticking together. I suspected that production casted two leads to create drama between the two of them, but they are not here for that. Marching up to an asshole together to tell him to go home is such a girl power move.
Gabby could easily have carried the show on her own, but not Rachel. I don't know, but Rachel seems very insecure/nervous. I can't see why - she's gorgeous and has a great job - but does not seem to have a lot of confidence.
Okay in the dude’s defense, JIM DALE IS A FANTASTIC narrator of the Harry Potter audio books. I absolutely talk about this fact more than I am willing to admit and it did come up on my first date with my now husband 🤣 we listen to the books to fall asleep every night!
Thank you! Jim Dale is INCREDIBLE with the audiobooks! Maybe talking Harry Potter during your first Bachelorette alone time isn't good "in this world", but in my world it'd get you brownie points LOL
He was the reason my bf bought all the books on audible lol. Because he is dyslexic and ADHD he struggled at times and he was able to hear all of the books in two weeks because of the narrator
🥰 we all deserve a nate the way he spoke to chris about control damaging good women, and the way he speaks of gabby was so sweet he such sweetheart he might be my favorite so far this season.
He equated having standards to controlling women. Nate was trying to sound politically correct, but his statement made no sense to me. If a woman said, what Chris said, nobody would have a problem with. What did he say that was wrong?
Chris is a genuinely scary dude. The way he refers to women as “females” and calls himself an alpha…I’m so glad these women were smart enough to send him home!
I really hope Gabby and Rachel keep talking and supporting each other. If nothing else, I think we can all agree that the greatest relationship to come out of this season will be their friendship.
@@phillconklin382 at what point were either of them supporting bad behavior? Also, when were either of them behaving badly? None of the guys either of them have started a connection with seem slimy yet, and they let people go as soon as they realize there isn’t a connection. As a unit they’ve been the best lead we’ve seen in a while (outside of Michelle of course)
@@kyliefewell6010 I forsee it. I've seen it enough when women are around eachother they justify all behavior as being a good friend. Let's see it play out because it's already been forshdowed. Gabby has already shown she can't be honest with Rachel. She feels she has to hide the truth from Rachel about the guys she likes to protect her from the truth.
I really feel like Rachel should've given Jordan more time, I think she called that off WAY too early. If she continued to feel something missing she could decide that later... I appreciate that in comparison with Gabby saying she's not sure about being a parent but she knows she doesn't have to make that decision right this moment.
They were getting along so well then all of a sudden she became extremely uncomfortable which I didn't understand. There must have been something that really didn't click for her. 🤷🏼♀️
“Logan apparently has a thing for handling two chicks at once” I could not stop myself from laughing out loud, which is why I watch all of your videos, even if I don’t actually watch the show, this is always the most amazing recap and entertaining in its own right. Masterful editing!!! Keep doing what you do!!
I was so bummed Rachel sent Jordan home so quickly. Sometimes the best relationships can build slowly from a more friendship basis. I understand this show is heightened and sped up, but he was so cute and seemed like a such a good guy, I would’ve kept him 100% 🥺
Yes, that's what Jason and Kaitlyn did (build from a friendship). Rachel should've given him another chance to see if it could work. I really hope we see Jordan on Paradise and he finds someone.
Was I the only one who was confused on why the first impression roses didn't get transferred into this rose ceremony considering there wasn't really one last week. It almost made it feel like like the first impression rose's didn't mean anything (security wise)
I think it's because even if this is the 1st rose ceremony, it is still technically week 2. So the first impression rose won't carry over beyond week 1.
If I were Rachel and Gabby I wouldn’t mind Chris setting a boundary of “I’m not going to feel comfortable if you have sex with other men during fantasy suites” I WOULD mind him calling me a “female” lol
Yes, and the biggest problem was that he was getting way ahead of himself, speaking to the men about it, and generally being an arrogant ass. Even the other men didn't appreciate it.
I loved how decisive they were with Tone Deaf, and while I don't like the two Bachelorette format, it is so helpful in times like that where you can have someone else there to make sure guys like him can't weasel out of things. Gabby was so good at giving it to him, it was wonderful to see.
Chris got the boot for expressing the same view that Susie expressed with Clayton. She didn't get demonized for it. Is it only men who are forbidden to want sexual exclusivity?
@@Paul-te8gi Ughh, this is not a man v woman thing, nor anything to do with only 'women wanting sexual exclusivity'. Susie and Madison expressed to their Bachelors, privately, their feelings about fantasy suites, giving their Bachelors the choice to decide what to do. Chris not only bragged about how he saw himself in fantasy suites, week one, when he'd not even had a conversation with them, but he also made it sound like sex with him was a given, then he bragged about how he'd leave if they slept with anyone else, while also implying he would not tell the women of his need for exclusivity before fantasy suites. He was also very disrespectful and condesending toward them when he got called out, it had nothing to do with gender. If it had to be a conversation, it should have been a conversation with Gabby and Rachel, not the other guys. The situations are completely different.
Apparently girls from San Diego are calling him out all over tiktok for dating the whole city (iirc it was him or assumed to be him) and I don’t know I find him not attractive
@@Manilovesmovies Of course they would... They never miss an opportunity for more drama! I'm thinking that maybe she just felt awkward and isn't that interested in him anyway. He's a creep. Hopefully he gets sent packing soon.
I’m glad they sent whiteboard guy home as well. I don’t like when he shushed Gabby. He also made a comment about wanting a rose from Rachel and not Gabby. I think they dodged a bullet there.
@@angelaraber And? They're both adults over age 25 looking to get married. Claire was 40 and had mostly guys 25-32 on her season. What's the difference?
@@Conservative_carnivore Nothing wrong with it if you have a real connection with someone but he didn't have any with her. The way he said it just came off as sleazy to me. Tired of men who are only interested in much younger women.
@@angelaraber So what if it's a guy's preference. It's biological. Rachel at the beginning said she likes tall and athletic guys. Should guys that aren't tall say I'm tired of women only dating taller guys?
@@Conservative_carnivore I'm sure lots of short men do say that. 🤦🏼♀️ Look... the guy was a creep. 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩I'm glad he's gone. He was not worthy of either of them. I'm not responding to you anymore.
Whenever men say "female" as opposed to women, it always eventually comes out that they hold some toxic/archaic views on gender. Huge red flag for me personally, and I cringe every time someone says it on the show
I’m actually still confused on why female is a bad word? Is it really that bad for you? It’s a word… you’re really so privileged that the word “female” triggers you? Get off your high horse lol
as expected i’m not loving the way gabby and rachel are being pit against each other, but i LOVE getting to see them handle situations together and stand by each other’s sides. the only reason this even somewhat work bc g&r are so mature.
That was weird. They didn’t really give a good explanation about why she didn’t like him. I mean they were making out and then he tells about being a responsible brother and she’s like, you got to go.
@@OohLaLaurie I thought he was awkward too!! And that is probably why she didn’t feel a connection. But i also feel like maybe she should’ve given him another chance, I think he was just REALLY nervous ya know?
@@samarayared7183 totally agree… I think he’s just shy and probably not used to speaking in front of cameras or being put on the spot. He’s probably a great guy, but the chemistry was nada and the conversation was so forced and seemed rehearsed. It is probably for the best that she didn’t drag him through more weeks since she knew he is not the one. 🤷♀️
This season has been making me feel so anxious for Rachel (and seems like gabby in the future) how they feel insecure about if the guys even like them!! It’s so sad because they are both such sweet people :(
It's making me so frustrated with the show/TPTB, as per usual. They claimed to be pushing the season back so they can work out how to manage two Bachelorettes, but so far just leaving Gabby and Rachel to fend for themselves. Both are capable women, but this isn't the experience I want for them.
It does seem like the contestants having a “choice” between 2 leads gives the men a sort of leg up on the power vs if there was just one lead they would be at her mercy.
I feel like the most problematic thing about Chris is him saying he "plans to be here all the way" and "the final four, which I plan to be in," "the woman he's most interested in at that point," in fantasy suites not because you're in love but because "you're in the final four", when he hasn't even had a conversation with them. Definitely shows he was viewing it as a competition for clout, not a quest for love.
Chris apparently didn’t realize that only 3 people go on the overnight dates 🤦🏻♀️ Bummed for Jordan but Rachel went with her gut on that one so that was probably for the best. A little weird that Nate went to the girls’ place but I like him lol I’m glad the girls handled the Chris situation the way that they did.
I think Rachel should’ve given Jordan one more week. The guy opened up and was immediately sent home, which was sad. Sometimes our gut can be wrong. One my first date with my fiancé, I wasn’t feeling it too much the day after. My friends encouraged me to give him another shot, and I did. Good thing I didn’t go with my guy, bcuz I’m so happy with him, now 😄
Quite possibly. Hannah Brown was praised for yelling at the guy who tried to set the boundary, and, contrary to his edit, expressed it in advance. It helps to have the storyline on your side.
Omg I love that you compared Nate and Gabby to Micheal and Holly. I loved that moment in the hot tub. I feel like they instantly felt comfortable being their selfs with each other! It was so cute🥺😭💜
they always have them pack up their suitcase before one on one dates so I don't think it was weird they showed him putting his suitcase out beforehand. but I hated that she sent him home he seemed like such a good match for her
They seemed to really hit it off but it seemed like more of a friend connection... for her at least. Maybe he needs to work on his mojo a little bit. It was so sad to see her sitting alone at the concert.
I also felt so bad for him. Imagine if this was one of the first times he’s been able to open up, just to be instantly rejected. I think Rachel should’ve wait until the end of the date to send him home. Or let him go for one more week.
Two thoughts: I'm getting Tom Holland vibes from Jordan. If Nate doesn't win, he's my Bachelor pick (although leaving his daughter to film would probably be really difficult).
I like the Gabby and Rachel dynamic. I feel like it improves the relationship for both the lead and the men to have both of them there. Like it helps to have a friend in the same situation to give a second opinion or discuss things with them. It used to be pretty isolating to be the bachelorette since you only had yourself, production and Harrison to talk too. Katie benefitted from having Tayshia and Kaitlyn there to support her. Main difference between Gab/Rach vs Tay/Kait/Katie is that Gab/Rach is like a classmate/teamate dynamic while Tay/Kait/Katie is more of a teacher/student dyamic but the unlike a teacher, your teammate is with you more throughout the process.
Tone Deaf just kept digging his own grave 🪦 he knows how this show works (well maybe he doesnt because he thought four people go to fantasy suites) and the other guys were literally trying to give him a chance to rethink his statements but when he didn't yield to any of them I knew he was a goner and then when Nate came in and just destroyed him with something I guess I have realized in several years past but never was able to articulate I literally started cheering in my own living room
I don’t think Rachel should have sent home Jordan. How do you know he is not the one spending one day with him? Even if there is no chemistry, give it a little more time. She didn’t give him a chance which is surprising since she seemed to be into him initially and enough to ask on him on a first date.
Chris seems like a decisive man of action. When he goes back to address it with the guys he seems like somone you'd want in your corner. I would have liked to see more of him.
Cancelling the first rose ceremony....okay I can see how that put a wrench in things. Seems like they should have been able to figure something out on the fly. Like, maybe letting the first impression rose recipients stay at the Bachelorette palace in a separate area. I don't know
I don’t even fault Chris for his stance on fantasy suites. But it’s like…why come on this show when you know you feel that way. I wouldn’t want to be with someone else either, so I get him. However, I’m not running to a dating show like this lol it makes no sense. Also it’s like he didn’t watch their season to know that this is something they’re okay with 🙄 Also anyone who uses “females” instead of “women” will always get a side eye from me. Here’s waiting on his podcast deal about being a “high value man” Lool
Why am I upset that Jordan got sent home before we even had a chance to see him with Gabby? Maybe Rachel didn’t see a connection, but how is that fair for Gabby? 😫 So they can each send people home but what about the other bachelorette??? Ooh it’s going to get messy
I have a question? If Jordan and Rachael don't vibe, so what. Maybe Gabby would like to give him a go around. Why does Rachael get to put him on the curb? Or is that discussed behind the scenes before hand?
It’s kind of wild to think one of them could have a one on one and send a guy home who might have been the perfect match for the other Bachelorette 😭 this two Bach format is willllld
I feel like they're trying to give Nate a good possible Bachelor edit (providing he isn't a final pick) which I wouldn't be mad about as of now. He seems to have a sweet heart and soul
I used to come here for the incredible sleuthing you do but now I’m mostly here bc your funny AF and I enjoy waking my husband up at night laughing out loud at your content. 😂
I really like Gabbi, I just wish she wasn't so (desperate maybe??) when she leans all the way in to get a kiss, and then doesn't know when the kiss is over...jmo
sir, i need you to know. i used to work on the show in post. this is my first season working elsewhere… and this is how i choose to keep up with the season lol thank you for your service.
At first I thought that Erich would do exactly what Logan did, but from the small amount of screen time he had from this episode, he seems to be leaning more towards Gabby, which is good because I really like them together. I think my top 2 favorite picks for Gabby so far are Erich and Nate
Rachel kept calling Jordan perfect and exactly what she asked for, so what was missing? In the end, it was best to not have him there wasting both of their time.
Both ladies seem to be quite decisive and able to cut men they spend time with and don’t feel it with (interesting that several of the ones they invited to their private party were cut). I’m enjoying the fun of the two ladies. Fantake, my favorite part of this recap was Justin’s expression being in Chris’ head! 😲
I don’t know why these people who are on a show where one person dates multiple people at the same time expects the one person to only sleep with them or no one. Have they never seen the show before? I don’t blame the ladies for not wanting to waste their time on someone who has already said they would leave late in the game for something the show expects the ladies to do.
The date roses should no longer be a thing, just a rose ceremony where one of the women gets to save whatever men she likes. Especially since all of the roses at this point were “from both of them”. I don’t think production really thought out the rose situation with two bachelorettes. I mean, there’s clearly going be some jumping camp later.
I’m a total nerd who would have had so much fun talking with the Harry Potter dude about audiobooks. Narrators totally make an audiobook worthwhile! There is narrator drama when they switch them in the middle of a large series, it can really destroy the experience. But I digress LMFAO
I felt bad for Jordan, man opened up and she dropped him just like that minutes after he just told his story. Good example of why some men don’t like opening up everything was going great until then 🤷🏻♂️
I also want to know what bought Ryan to decide that he wants a rose from Rachel more. From first looks of the guys, I was like oh Ryan and Rachel would look good together. So I am surprised that I was about right.
I feel like they’re setting it up that Rachel is going to leave halfway through, I really don’t think the 2 at once is working. Then they can give her her own season and big redemption arc
Well that's 0/2 on motivational speakers from recent seasons.
"You made me found my damn voice"
He calls himself a 'Mentality Coach' 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
Well they are just fish oil salesman. I don’t think if your job is “motivational speaker” that you really have a job. You just talk about how great someone is after they pay you.
Why are the motivational speaker guys always douchy?
I actually watched one of his motivational videos on TH-cam before the season started and you're right, it's a lot like that... maybe worse
How could they do a speedo contest knowing full well that Yosef's daughter is at home watching?!?!?!
Thank you for this so much!
🤣🤣🤣
stahppp that is so funny LOL
DEAD this will never get old for me😂
@@bringsnsdback1645 keep scrolling then :) hope you're having a good day!
I’m not gonna lie, I appreciate that Jason was upfront about having a connection with Gabby. I think it shows integrity!
Side note: Tone Deaf saying “females” gave me the ick🫣
yeah Tone Deaf seems like he is deep in the manosphere
like misogyny and alpha male nonsense
I was thinking the same thing! “Females” is tiptoeing into the nice-guy-incel-y territory.
I don't trust anyone who refers to women as females, men or women.
Yes! I absolutely hate when men say ‘females’. So chauvinistic
right, I thought his point was fair - like last season whatshername had an issue with whatshisname sleeping with multiple women and we all said that she should have mentioned that before but ithat her feelings are valid. they're valid here too. but the way he said it? "if the female..." nah. just nah. So dehumanizing. also weird to mention it so early on and mention it to the men, not the woman you're interested in. that's a conversation to have further along and with only the involved parties.
I didn't expect Jordan to go home I feel sad for him he was such a great guy hope we see him in paradise.
It was obvious from the date that she didn't have a connection, it was awkward to watch them.
Such a great guy!
I hear you , and who's to say Gabby wouldn't have liked him ? Sending him home made me go ugh !!
He's a sweetheart! I was sorry to see him go too. Hopefully he'll get a chance in Paradise!
I think that something (significant) was said during their dinner conversation that Rachel did not like, that *wasn't shown*. She later in an ITM mentioned that "things can change so fast just due to one thing in a conversation". I think that she was into him before that "one thing".
There's something so deeply uncomfortable and awkward about watching someone sing who thinks they can sing but actually can't at all
He wasn't bad. He was above average.
@@phillconklin382 For real he wasn't bad. I thought I was the only one that thought so
@@onahi2025 People can't handle strong men with standards. I don't think he is perfect or super likable but he said what he said because he has a genuine conviction. If the girls and the guys are allowed to think about marriage why isn't he allowed to think about the sex part of that marriage. It's an expedient process you think about everything quickly.
@@onahi2025 he is someone you would find in a church choir, they might even give him a small solo.
All I could think of was Elf singing his made up songs on the spot. “I’m in a store and I’m singing…”
I love that Rachel and Gabby are sticking together. I suspected that production casted two leads to create drama between the two of them, but they are not here for that. Marching up to an asshole together to tell him to go home is such a girl power move.
On the Bachelorette, the toxic ones get shown the door early on. On the Bachelor, they become the front runner.
Gabby could easily have carried the show on her own, but not Rachel. I don't know, but Rachel seems very insecure/nervous. I can't see why - she's gorgeous and has a great job - but does not seem to have a lot of confidence.
@@AlexandraK1 i agree. i didn’t notice during c’s season but maybe she feels pressure being the lead.
@@electricladyland4421 I think so too ... I didn't watch the bachelor; but she seems very diffident somehow.
So is sitting there sexualizing men in speedos
As soon as he said “females” I was like OHHHHHH yeah he’s THAT dude ☠️☠️
LMAO!! Same, it's so gross and dehumanizing.
How do you never run out of The Office memes?! And do you have these clips organized in folders by context? 😂
He answered this in a Q&A, yes he does!
Okay in the dude’s defense, JIM DALE IS A FANTASTIC narrator of the Harry Potter audio books. I absolutely talk about this fact more than I am willing to admit and it did come up on my first date with my now husband 🤣 we listen to the books to fall asleep every night!
Thank you! Jim Dale is INCREDIBLE with the audiobooks! Maybe talking Harry Potter during your first Bachelorette alone time isn't good "in this world", but in my world it'd get you brownie points LOL
He was the reason my bf bought all the books on audible lol. Because he is dyslexic and ADHD he struggled at times and he was able to hear all of the books in two weeks because of the narrator
I have to say that I thought the same thing!!!! I would probably say that on a date too (hence the fact I am single like this dude who got cut) 😄
YESJim Dale is an Ivón in my house. My hubby and I listen to the books all of the time
I grew up listening to the Jim Dale HP audiobooks. I would have swooned 😂
🥰 we all deserve a nate the way he spoke to chris about control damaging good women, and the way he speaks of gabby was so sweet he such sweetheart he might be my favorite so far this season.
I usually don't follow contestants from the show but I immediately looked him up on insta. He's an instant favorite for me 😍
Yeah, when he said he had a daughter, I was very glad for that girl.
Yes and no one spoke to him the first night so I’m glad they cancelled the first rose ceremony.
yea him getting the final word to chris and sending him away in front of everyone was DEFINITELY putting his best foot forward. i love him🥰
He equated having standards to controlling women. Nate was trying to sound politically correct, but his statement made no sense to me. If a woman said, what Chris said, nobody would have a problem with. What did he say that was wrong?
Chris is a genuinely scary dude. The way he refers to women as “females” and calls himself an alpha…I’m so glad these women were smart enough to send him home!
@@Joan-COYI You just answered your own question.
I think he was pretty normal and there was nothing disrespectful .
@@thegalhorowitz girl bye
Male: I'm an alpha!
Women: You're a weird insecure dude...
Women: I'm an alpha female!
Women: Yes you are queen!!!
@@Conservative_carnivore i have never heard a woman refer to themselves as an alpha in my life
I really hope Gabby and Rachel keep talking and supporting each other. If nothing else, I think we can all agree that the greatest relationship to come out of this season will be their friendship.
Ew.
Ignore the guy who replied to you, I totally agree. It's nice to see some positive relationships from the leads for sure.
If two people are supporting eachother through bad behavior that's not called support but rather enabling.
@@phillconklin382 at what point were either of them supporting bad behavior? Also, when were either of them behaving badly? None of the guys either of them have started a connection with seem slimy yet, and they let people go as soon as they realize there isn’t a connection. As a unit they’ve been the best lead we’ve seen in a while (outside of Michelle of course)
@@kyliefewell6010 I forsee it. I've seen it enough when women are around eachother they justify all behavior as being a good friend. Let's see it play out because it's already been forshdowed. Gabby has already shown she can't be honest with Rachel. She feels she has to hide the truth from Rachel about the guys she likes to protect her from the truth.
I really feel like Rachel should've given Jordan more time, I think she called that off WAY too early. If she continued to feel something missing she could decide that later... I appreciate that in comparison with Gabby saying she's not sure about being a parent but she knows she doesn't have to make that decision right this moment.
They were getting along so well then all of a sudden she became extremely uncomfortable which I didn't understand. There must have been something that really didn't click for her. 🤷🏼♀️
I felt like it was his nervousness or something. Rachel and Gabby both seem to appreciate more assured and assertive personalities.
Agreed. I turned down my husband after our first date, but I was wrong about my initial feelings.
I respect Rachel for knowing herself and being able to send home her first one on one. Unfortunately, he was the most attractive guy😭😭😭
did him a favour, he should be the achelor or on bip
Truly
They keep sending home the guys I’m like dang their attractive *nosebleed*
@@tulip5210 it will be very clear why these women are single
@@tulip5210 I call my husband nosebleed. Lol
Gabby’s complete nonchalance at Nate's profession of fatherhood is the so incredibly woman-dating-in-her-thirties and I love it.
“Every season must have a union leader”. I’m dead! 😂
“Logan apparently has a thing for handling two chicks at once” I could not stop myself from laughing out loud, which is why I watch all of your videos, even if I don’t actually watch the show, this is always the most amazing recap and entertaining in its own right. Masterful editing!!! Keep doing what you do!!
lmaoo, I died when he said that:)
There is no other.
True about Jacob's talent, when he put on those glasses and started talking mortgages, I was like, someone marry that MAN!
Gabby and Nate had a real conversation, it was so wild because you almost never see it. I love them 😍
It was really lovely seeing two adults having such a meaningful connection. Something that's been missing from this franchise for awhile.
I was so bummed Rachel sent Jordan home so quickly. Sometimes the best relationships can build slowly from a more friendship basis. I understand this show is heightened and sped up, but he was so cute and seemed like a such a good guy, I would’ve kept him 100% 🥺
Yes, that's what Jason and Kaitlyn did (build from a friendship). Rachel should've given him another chance to see if it could work. I really hope we see Jordan on Paradise and he finds someone.
Was I the only one who was confused on why the first impression roses didn't get transferred into this rose ceremony considering there wasn't really one last week. It almost made it feel like like the first impression rose's didn't mean anything (security wise)
You make a great point! It does seem that those two should have been safe.
My husband and I noticed that too, so weird, like it didn't really mean anything.
I think it's because even if this is the 1st rose ceremony, it is still technically week 2. So the first impression rose won't carry over beyond week 1.
If I were Rachel and Gabby I wouldn’t mind Chris setting a boundary of “I’m not going to feel comfortable if you have sex with other men during fantasy suites”
I WOULD mind him calling me a “female” lol
THIS!!! It didn’t sound like he was saying they couldn’t do what they wanted it just sounded like he had a personal boundary
Same feelings
@@baileydunton6142 that’s what I was thinking, and it came off wrong. But I don’t want to be crucified in the comments.
Yes, and the biggest problem was that he was getting way ahead of himself, speaking to the men about it, and generally being an arrogant ass. Even the other men didn't appreciate it.
I’m really confused why female is a bad word? Is it really that bad? Isn’t that what they are?
I loved how decisive they were with Tone Deaf, and while I don't like the two Bachelorette format, it is so helpful in times like that where you can have someone else there to make sure guys like him can't weasel out of things. Gabby was so good at giving it to him, it was wonderful to see.
Chris got the boot for expressing the same view that Susie expressed with Clayton. She didn't get demonized for it. Is it only men who are forbidden to want sexual exclusivity?
@@Paul-te8gi Ughh, this is not a man v woman thing, nor anything to do with only 'women wanting sexual exclusivity'. Susie and Madison expressed to their Bachelors, privately, their feelings about fantasy suites, giving their Bachelors the choice to decide what to do. Chris not only bragged about how he saw himself in fantasy suites, week one, when he'd not even had a conversation with them, but he also made it sound like sex with him was a given, then he bragged about how he'd leave if they slept with anyone else, while also implying he would not tell the women of his need for exclusivity before fantasy suites. He was also very disrespectful and condesending toward them when he got called out, it had nothing to do with gender. If it had to be a conversation, it should have been a conversation with Gabby and Rachel, not the other guys. The situations are completely different.
I think Logan is a player, and he was trying to charm both to make sure he has a spot by one of them I hope Rachel doesn't get hurt.
Apparently girls from San Diego are calling him out all over tiktok for dating the whole city (iirc it was him or assumed to be him) and I don’t know I find him not attractive
It looked like Gabby didn't tell Rachel that he kissed her too. I don't think she should have withheld that information. He needs to go.
@@angelaraber I’ve heard some people say that the editors just didn’t include it but I feel like they would have if she did telll Rachel
@@Manilovesmovies Of course they would... They never miss an opportunity for more drama! I'm thinking that maybe she just felt awkward and isn't that interested in him anyway. He's a creep. Hopefully he gets sent packing soon.
@@bear3154 He's actually been accused of s*xual ass@ult on TikTok as well
I’m glad they sent whiteboard guy home as well. I don’t like when he shushed Gabby. He also made a comment about wanting a rose from Rachel and not Gabby. I think they dodged a bullet there.
He was creepy... professing how much he wanted Rachel when he's a good 10 years older than her. 🤦🏼♀️
@@angelaraber And? They're both adults over age 25 looking to get married. Claire was 40 and had mostly guys 25-32 on her season. What's the difference?
@@Conservative_carnivore Nothing wrong with it if you have a real connection with someone but he didn't have any with her. The way he said it just came off as sleazy to me. Tired of men who are only interested in much younger women.
@@angelaraber So what if it's a guy's preference. It's biological. Rachel at the beginning said she likes tall and athletic guys. Should guys that aren't tall say I'm tired of women only dating taller guys?
@@Conservative_carnivore I'm sure lots of short men do say that. 🤦🏼♀️ Look... the guy was a creep. 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩I'm glad he's gone. He was not worthy of either of them. I'm not responding to you anymore.
Whenever men say "female" as opposed to women, it always eventually comes out that they hold some toxic/archaic views on gender. Huge red flag for me personally, and I cringe every time someone says it on the show
it's theirb gender, just stop with the easy triggers
Do you also get triggered when a woman uses the word "males " ?
He also called himself an alpha - I'd be shocked if he doesn't hang out in *those* circles. They usually call women "females"
@@vivvelsene63 what are you talking about
I’m actually still confused on why female is a bad word? Is it really that bad for you? It’s a word… you’re really so privileged that the word “female” triggers you? Get off your high horse lol
as expected i’m not loving the way gabby and rachel are being pit against each other, but i LOVE getting to see them handle situations together and stand by each other’s sides. the only reason this even somewhat work bc g&r are so mature.
If it were me I would’ve sent Tone Deaf home after that song
Nate turning into a 5 year old boy next to the clip of that legend was HILARIOUS! love the editing
Jordan is so cute... but I guess not Rachel's type?? I'm surprised to see him leave so quick. Nate is quite funny. He would be great in paradise
That was weird. They didn’t really give a good explanation about why she didn’t like him. I mean they were making out and then he tells about being a responsible brother and she’s like, you got to go.
@@c.l.888 yeah but there was no chemistry imo. Also he wasn’t well spoken. The convos were awkward.
@@OohLaLaurie I thought he was awkward too!! And that is probably why she didn’t feel a connection. But i also feel like maybe she should’ve given him another chance, I think he was just REALLY nervous ya know?
@@samarayared7183 totally agree… I think he’s just shy and probably not used to speaking in front of cameras or being put on the spot. He’s probably a great guy, but the chemistry was nada and the conversation was so forced and seemed rehearsed. It is probably for the best that she didn’t drag him through more weeks since she knew he is not the one. 🤷♀️
What happens if Rachel sends home a guy that Gabby likes and vise versa? Do they bring them back? Just curious
I was wondering the same thing when Rachel sent Jordan home. Like what if Gabby had a connection with him and wanted to continue to explore that.
This season has been making me feel so anxious for Rachel (and seems like gabby in the future) how they feel insecure about if the guys even like them!! It’s so sad because they are both such sweet people :(
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rachel is arrogant. sdaid she doesnt trust men and called the men boys, Clayton is the lucky one
It's making me so frustrated with the show/TPTB, as per usual.
They claimed to be pushing the season back so they can work out how to manage two Bachelorettes, but so far just leaving Gabby and Rachel to fend for themselves. Both are capable women, but this isn't the experience I want for them.
Um, she dumped, for no apparent reason, the one guy who burned any chance with Gabby by telling Rachel up front that he was there for only her!
It does seem like the contestants having a “choice” between 2 leads gives the men a sort of leg up on the power vs if there was just one lead they would be at her mercy.
I feel like the most problematic thing about Chris is him saying he "plans to be here all the way" and "the final four, which I plan to be in," "the woman he's most interested in at that point," in fantasy suites not because you're in love but because "you're in the final four", when he hasn't even had a conversation with them. Definitely shows he was viewing it as a competition for clout, not a quest for love.
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I agree with the most problematic things about Chris, but lets face it, how many contestants are in it for a "quest for love" anymore?
The freeze frame of Gabby’s face after being told about Chris’s bullshit slayed me.
Chris apparently didn’t realize that only 3 people go on the overnight dates 🤦🏻♀️ Bummed for Jordan but Rachel went with her gut on that one so that was probably for the best. A little weird that Nate went to the girls’ place but I like him lol I’m glad the girls handled the Chris situation the way that they did.
But what did Chris do wrong?
Maybe he's only watched Hannah Brown's season. And chose Luke P as his hero.
I think Rachel should’ve given Jordan one more week. The guy opened up and was immediately sent home, which was sad. Sometimes our gut can be wrong. One my first date with my fiancé, I wasn’t feeling it too much the day after. My friends encouraged me to give him another shot, and I did. Good thing I didn’t go with my guy, bcuz I’m so happy with him, now 😄
Quite possibly. Hannah Brown was praised for yelling at the guy who tried to set the boundary, and, contrary to his edit, expressed it in advance. It helps to have the storyline on your side.
Omg I love that you compared Nate and Gabby to Micheal and Holly. I loved that moment in the hot tub. I feel like they instantly felt comfortable being their selfs with each other! It was so cute🥺😭💜
Love how you can package up the whole episode in under 15 mins! Awesome commentary too!
They really need to have the guys seperate into camps of gabby and Rachel 🤷🏻♀️ I’m like bruh frustrated that the show didn’t do this.
I think there's a few at least who haven't decided yet.
meatball just liked my meatball for paradise tweet 15 minutes ago 👀🍝❤️🔥
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they always have them pack up their suitcase before one on one dates so I don't think it was weird they showed him putting his suitcase out beforehand. but I hated that she sent him home he seemed like such a good match for her
They seemed to really hit it off but it seemed like more of a friend connection... for her at least. Maybe he needs to work on his mojo a little bit. It was so sad to see her sitting alone at the concert.
felt bad for jordan. seemed like a nice guy, opened up about his past, but still went home
I also felt so bad for him. Imagine if this was one of the first times he’s been able to open up, just to be instantly rejected. I think Rachel should’ve wait until the end of the date to send him home. Or let him go for one more week.
Two thoughts:
I'm getting Tom Holland vibes from Jordan.
If Nate doesn't win, he's my Bachelor pick (although leaving his daughter to film would probably be really difficult).
I really like Nate toooooo😍
Emily was allowed to have her daughter close on her season. Would love to see a dad!
I like the Gabby and Rachel dynamic. I feel like it improves the relationship for both the lead and the men to have both of them there. Like it helps to have a friend in the same situation to give a second opinion or discuss things with them. It used to be pretty isolating to be the bachelorette since you only had yourself, production and Harrison to talk too.
Katie benefitted from having Tayshia and Kaitlyn there to support her. Main difference between Gab/Rach vs Tay/Kait/Katie is that Gab/Rach is like a classmate/teamate dynamic while Tay/Kait/Katie is more of a teacher/student dyamic but the unlike a teacher, your teammate is with you more throughout the process.
Gabby needs to start a Cameo account after this. I 100% would pay to have her tell people off in a video for me.
I think you mean Gabby.
@@veronicafoley7492 Shoot. Yes. Will change.
Grandpa John needs a cameo account! Lol
Tone Deaf just kept digging his own grave 🪦 he knows how this show works (well maybe he doesnt because he thought four people go to fantasy suites) and the other guys were literally trying to give him a chance to rethink his statements but when he didn't yield to any of them I knew he was a goner and then when Nate came in and just destroyed him with something I guess I have realized in several years past but never was able to articulate I literally started cheering in my own living room
What if Jordan could have had a connection with Gabby?- Rachel still gets to send him home????
True, the whole concept is so weird
I don’t think Rachel should have sent home Jordan. How do you know he is not the one spending one day with him? Even if there is no chemistry, give it a little more time. She didn’t give him a chance which is surprising since she seemed to be into him initially and enough to ask on him on a first date.
Chris seems like a decisive man of action. When he goes back to address it with the guys he seems like somone you'd want in your corner. I would have liked to see more of him.
Man, roby would have KILLED in the talent portion 🥲
Literally still punching the air that Jordan got sent home 😭
i'm almost starting to wonder if chris has ever watched the show. also, nate is such a sweetheart! i see him going very far.
Based on what we saw here...no, no he hasn't watched the show (especially Hannah B's season).
this might be the fastest 'time to shocked pikachu face' recap yet
Them not having enough beds for the guys is actually pretty fucked up. Wtf production.
Cancelling the first rose ceremony....okay I can see how that put a wrench in things. Seems like they should have been able to figure something out on the fly. Like, maybe letting the first impression rose recipients stay at the Bachelorette palace in a separate area. I don't know
I don’t even fault Chris for his stance on fantasy suites. But it’s like…why come on this show when you know you feel that way. I wouldn’t want to be with someone else either, so I get him. However, I’m not running to a dating show like this lol it makes no sense. Also it’s like he didn’t watch their season to know that this is something they’re okay with 🙄
Also anyone who uses “females” instead of “women” will always get a side eye from me. Here’s waiting on his podcast deal about being a “high value man” Lool
Why am I upset that Jordan got sent home before we even had a chance to see him with Gabby? Maybe Rachel didn’t see a connection, but how is that fair for Gabby? 😫 So they can each send people home but what about the other bachelorette??? Ooh it’s going to get messy
And that's why they hired 2 bachelorettes lol
@@anagimenez9621 True! I’m kinda glad though because we needed a switch up lol
Hopefully they discussed off screen
Yep. Super messy but I'm thinking they asked Gabby from before if she minds if Rachel sends her date guy home.
Yes. This was my thought too.
What if your bachelorette partner sends home someone you’re interested in?
I have a question? If Jordan and Rachael don't vibe, so what. Maybe Gabby would like to give him a go around. Why does Rachael get to put him on the curb? Or is that discussed behind the scenes before hand?
i think maybe bc jordan made it clear that he was there for rachel?
I certainly hope that they would have discussed it beforehand or things could get quite sticky in the future.
It’s kind of wild to think one of them could have a one on one and send a guy home who might have been the perfect match for the other Bachelorette 😭 this two Bach format is willllld
I think Rachel assumed he was there for her so probably didn't think anything of it. She cares about Gabby but it's obvious this is HER journey
It’s always the motivational speakers who do the most and get cut early 😂
Congrats on 150 k subs🤩🤩🤩 your recaps are so much better than the show itself😁
Gabi got the ick the moment he started singing
I feel like they're trying to give Nate a good possible Bachelor edit (providing he isn't a final pick) which I wouldn't be mad about as of now. He seems to have a sweet heart and soul
I used to come here for the incredible sleuthing you do but now I’m mostly here bc your funny AF and I enjoy waking my husband up at night laughing out loud at your content. 😂
why is it such a big deal for someone to go a year and a half without having sex, I feel like that’s a pretty normal thing 😂
I love Gabi!! 😆 Her face 9:34 lol I don’t think I would be watching this season if it wasn’t for her
I really like Gabbi, I just wish she wasn't so (desperate maybe??) when she leans all the way in to get a kiss, and then doesn't know when the kiss is over...jmo
@@FLo-jc7ig Haha yeah, especially with what appear to be "enhanced" lips!
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That too! And the Show seriously "over applies" the make-up too. Makes the girls look like "mannequins"!!! Why???
@@FLo-jc7ig They have long long long days
As someone currently listening to the Harry Potter audio books, I feel a bit called out!
Now im curious. Is it that good?
I love Gabby! She's one of my favorites, and I also love Rachel!
She's synthetic AF. Hair extensions, veneers, fillers, etc. That's a hard no.
sir, i need you to know. i used to work on the show in post. this is my first season working elsewhere… and this is how i choose to keep up with the season lol thank you for your service.
Sending Jordan home was ridiculous! The date was great and he deserved at least another week or so to see how the relationship progressed.
If there’s no chemistry, there’s no chemistry
I have never fallen in love with a contestant faster than I have with Nate 🫠
At first I thought that Erich would do exactly what Logan did, but from the small amount of screen time he had from this episode, he seems to be leaning more towards Gabby, which is good because I really like them together. I think my top 2 favorite picks for Gabby so far are Erich and Nate
Yeah, the way she was lounging with Erich before the rose ceremony seemed so natural
Rachel kept calling Jordan perfect and exactly what she asked for, so what was missing? In the end, it was best to not have him there wasting both of their time.
Both ladies seem to be quite decisive and able to cut men they spend time with and don’t feel it with (interesting that several of the ones they invited to their private party were cut). I’m enjoying the fun of the two ladies. Fantake, my favorite part of this recap was Justin’s expression being in Chris’ head! 😲
I really wish someone would of asked Chris : “well, what if you were in their position, would you sleep with multiple women? “
I don’t know why these people who are on a show where one person dates multiple people at the same time expects the one person to only sleep with them or no one. Have they never seen the show before? I don’t blame the ladies for not wanting to waste their time on someone who has already said they would leave late in the game for something the show expects the ladies to do.
and if he said no?
Throughout the whole Chris-drama (and honestly also the rose ceremony) I could hear your voice already 😂😂
strange request but please include more clips from shows like b99 or schitts creek bc i think it would be hilarious!
😂😂😂 I am not going to lie, I was not expecting you to use the flick scene from Thor Love and Thunder to describe the group date. That’s hilarious!
The Quincey shade .. I love it 😂😂😂😂♥️♥️
Rachel’s body is so beautiful ! Finally we’re seeing a thick beautiful curvy bachelorette ❤️🙏🏼
The date roses should no longer be a thing, just a rose ceremony where one of the women gets to save whatever men she likes. Especially since all of the roses at this point were “from both of them”. I don’t think production really thought out the rose situation with two bachelorettes. I mean, there’s clearly going be some jumping camp later.
I like the double bachelorette format! They are both wonderful to watch.
Yes the time it went fast .
I’m a total nerd who would have had so much fun talking with the Harry Potter dude about audiobooks. Narrators totally make an audiobook worthwhile! There is narrator drama when they switch them in the middle of a large series, it can really destroy the experience. But I digress LMFAO
Love Jim Dale!
There’s just something about Mario that seems fishy
Agree!
I think Mario might spin out over getting called last and take a minor villain turn next week.
I appreciate all the work you put into these videos so much!! all of your content is 10/10 !
I would love to have Nayte as the bachelor.
You mean Nate?
@@highway2heaven91 Yup, my bad with spelling lol 😂
last season on the bachelor was all about shrimp and now it about meatballs lol
Does Tone Deaf know what show he signed up for? 🙄
Clearly no!
I felt bad for Jordan, man opened up and she dropped him just like that minutes after he just told his story. Good example of why some men don’t like opening up everything was going great until then 🤷🏻♂️
How how how did meatball not get sent home.
He's adorable with his glasses. I'm sure they will feel awful when they do send him home
I haven’t watched the new episode yet but saw this pop up and had to save to watch later! Can’t wait to return💗
I can't help but feel like people would react a lot differently to the skimpy pageant if it was women being asked to do so
I also want to know what bought Ryan to decide that he wants a rose from Rachel more. From first looks of the guys, I was like oh Ryan and Rachel would look good together. So I am surprised that I was about right.
@@bringsnsdback1645 idk about age I mean Mari and Kenny have a huge age gap too. As well as Grocery Store Joe and Serena.
It sounded like that was an edit, especially since we didn't see him saying it. It sounds like a soundbite the more you listen
The way Ryan was hushing Gabby in the first episode....he clearly felt like he was above her.
The intro was bar NONE! Absolutely hilarious!! Appreciate all the work you do!
I want jordan and nate as the next bachelors❤😂
Looks like we are gonna have another Not-Here-For-The-Right-Reasons-Brigade
Gabby telling men off is my favourite thing.
Grandpa John for bachelor
I thought Logan would get both roses too and was kinda sad that Gabby gave in to Rachel.
I know the men should be the priority and if theres conflict between the two women so be it would probably be the realest thing on the show.
6:38 is The most UNPRECEDENTED Moment in Bachelor History. I feel bad for the Guy but MORE For the singers Because now They get overshadowed.
I feel like they’re setting it up that Rachel is going to leave halfway through, I really don’t think the 2 at once is working. Then they can give her her own season and big redemption arc