(188)The Neo Constitution Class
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2024
- In today's episode of Truth OR Myth Beta, we're taking a look at the Neo-Constitution Class, as first seen in Star Trek: Picard Season 3... I hope you enjoy!
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Still the single greatest moment in Star Trek history. When La’forge brought. Out the Big D and Picard in the chair saying Engage! I’m 39 and I turned into a little kid again!
It was pretty mind bending when looking at memory alpha's page for Ent-D and seeing 'Active Service' in the entry.
Some men fix old cars in their middle years. Gordi.... he rebuilt a Starship. *His* starship.
Picard took his demotion in stride. :)
Yes!!! And Crusher handling the "Manual Targeting" D's weapon's like she was meant too!!!
im 47 and i honestly tear'd up :")
I'm 42 and I was giddy and excited when we saw the D bridge light up and then of course like you said @danielmarkle9000 when Picard sat in the chair saying, "Engage!"
Excelsior, Sovereign, Constitution III are my favorite ship designs.
Well…now I know why the Connie Mk 3 looked that way during Season 3…and I humbly accept. Way to go, Argyle!🎉
Very well done! It really bothered my that even though this was technically an upgraded Shangri-La class they were calling it a Constitution. Your explanation has satisfied my head canon finally. :)
It's funny that: it's actually more of a Neo Shangri-La... it's supposedly a "refit" of a Luna class that looks nothing like a Luna at all... and is markedly inferior to other 25th century Federation ships, if we're going by the statement that its internals are all outdated. Nice looking design, but also a very bizarre gumbo of ideas and references.
Beautiful ship, excellent history. One of the best looking ships that has been seen in quite a while.
The ships a good design, but I feel the Titan A was done a massive disservice by being renamed as Enterprise. It has its own legacy, and deserved to retain the name.
A wonderful story about the class of ship that I definitely wanted ❤😊
Such a beautiful ship. I remember seeing her glide out of spacedock for the first time with my jaw on the floor! This ship means a lot to me, and has become my fav starship design in all of trek! I hope we get to see more of her one day!
nicely done.
I gave and unexpected hell yeah when I heard you say Captain 7 of 9.
Beautiful ship just the right amount of retro and modern asthetics blended seemlessly together
I’ve been looking at this ship for months wondering what was so different from the original Connie and the refit. Thanks to this video, I now realize it was the neck! Thanks!
Glad I could help! :)
The Ent-G is the right shape, the right class, the right mission and, the right captain. However I still feel that the Enterprise namesake deserved a newly built ship complete with bits of her predecessors as is customary of continuing a ships lineage, while allowing the Titan to continue it's own lineage. Never mind the superstitions that go along with rechristening a ship. So in short the Enterprise should have gotten the next unnamed Neo-Constitution hull to be completed, while Titan-A deservedly gotten to continue to exist.
I like the design of the Neo Constitution class. It is a good look back at the Constitution refit. I also like how new technologies such multiphasic/multiregenerative shielding and multifrequency phaser arrays combine with older technologies like dual phaser banks and armour plating are blended together.
On a more personal note I am glad that your health issues are better resolved and it is good to have you making videos again.
Peace and long life to you.
This was great. Thanks for putting it all together. I had my reservations about the ship when I first saw it online but I've fallen completely in love with it.
I hope they make that series. They teased it. If they do, I would be a hard core fan.
I love how you went into reasoning on why the Constitution Class wasn't used. Which makes sense actually. I was hell bent on saying it's not a "NEO Constitution. It's a NEO Shangri-la". Your reasoning made me change my view.
Love the design. Rugged and yet smooth lines. As much as I love the sovereign class, I would not say no to taking the Connie III on a five year mission.
Beautiful ship, excellent history. Than you very much
I was about to argue with you about the ship being based on the original Constitution. I kept saying to my self... NO... Shangri-la class. I am glad I kept listening. :) I love you show!!!
I really enjoyed this one in particular.
The Neo Constitution Class at first I wasn't a fan of sure of it when seeing a couple of stills.
A couple of episodes in & seeing her in action...oh my days I'm in love with it!
I do look forward to seeing more videos 🖖🏻
You have a great imagination and passion for Star Trek.
You should really consider being one of their story writers.
Your take on the lore is just as good.
Better most times.
Great vid. Still, I honestly and respectfully wish “The Motion Picture” refit Connie would have been the base/reference model for Connie III. Keep up the good work and may you and yours live long and prosper.
When I saw the Titan -A I was awestruck this is a very beautiful design a good constitution class retro design but the return of the Ball turret phaser banks and phaser strips together was ok
😭😭😭 That was beautiful. Bravo my friend. Take a bow. That video from introducing the new 25th Century Neo Constitution 3 Class with all kinds of fun teck, my favorite are the metaphasic shielding and regenerative Hull plating. Armanents like weapons are already added just because it's a Star Ship like any other in the Sol System. But not just any old Star Ship, it's the new Enterprise G 1701 Ship and you ending it with my favorite character from Voyager, and to say this is a pleasure. Captain 7. This year's season 3 of Picard was the best. 1 was like an introduction. 2 an adventure. But to find out 3 was the last, it was graciously played by all the characters till the end with the card playing and the heading of episode 10 was a great title. From seeing the original cast of TNG actually on the Enterprise D and how newly restored it was, it never had a chance for that spikey Borg cube. But this was my h entertaining. Thank you. I think I have a new eagle moss ship to look up. Tx. God bless, stay safe and as always, I'll be always looking forward to seeing more of your great wisdom 🙏🙏🙏
I'm still not a huge fan of this ship yet but it may grow on me in time and I agree what is the point of star trek if you don't use your imagination love the video as always
Great narritave. I personally believe that the Titan shouldn't have been renamed but Season 3 was what we were all waiting for.
“ Nicely “ “ Done “ “ And “ “ Explained “
Nicely done.
Thanks!
Picard Season 3 was the best season by far of that show.
Great story and narration. I’m not quite sold on the design of this ship and feel like slapping the Enterprise name on the hull was cheap. I’d personally like to have seen more of the F or a new, 25th century inspired G rather than the retro look of the Titan A.
Your narrative for the story was excellent. To me it seems that Starfleet would bring back this hull profit because there were some advantages in Warp Field geometry that it offered with the new nacelles. Even though the design is baffling to me (Especially with the large # of impulse engines), you really did it justice with the explanation. Would love to see you do the Intrepid -- that is an amazing update of a design to starfleet's contemporary linage.
Great video as always.
Glad you enjoyed it, thank you!
Great examination of a truly beautiful ship. The ship is absolutely worthy of the name Enterprise. Hopefully we'll see more of her in the future.
TAS: "...Such as how vulnerable the neck area had been on that design."
Me: Yeah, just ask Kirk and the Enterprise crew about that one. 😀
I still think Connie 2 is the best looking in the series, then the E and now the G. There are a couple of things I have to get used to, the saucer aft, and the nacelles - I don't know what I want to see but its not them. Still she's gorgeous and I can live with it.
Brilliant backstory "again"
the decision to rechristen the Titan A into the Enterprise G at the end of Picard season 3 was a controversial one amongst the fanbase considering that the Titan A wasn't the biggest and most powerful class of ship available at the time, which is usually what was picked for the Enterprise since the decommissioning of the Enterprise A. however, I would argue that after everything that the ship & crew of the Titan A went through over the course of Picard season 3, they have bloody well earned that rechristening into the Enterprise G.
besides, ships like the Defiant or the Voyager have proven time and again that you don't need to be the biggest or most powerful ship in Starfleet to be considered a powerhouse... you just need to perform well and have a highly skilled crew. the Titan A/Enterprise G has both of these things.
Well looks like i'm real early here. I've been binging your videos for the past few days, and am a recent subscriber. Keep up the good work!
After a quick tease of the 1701-F and the cold blooded murder of Shelby. Fans was extremely insulted at the cliche’ of the Titan-A and with the ship already established a identity and homage to the Beta Cannon(novel). They just plaster Enterprise over a ship that we all know as the Titan. It would have been logical if a newly erected Neo-Constitution is introduced.
Lets just hope that we get a series out of it so that we can see the further new adventures of the Enterprise, with Titan bones.
I love the inclusion of Argyle in the story
What were you thoughts on the rechristening of the Titan-A to the Enterprise-G?
I hated them renaming her Enterprise. to honor the achievements of the Titan, they erased it.
think of it like I do. The next 2 Constitution mk 3s Built are The U.S.S.Titan-B and The U.S.S. Shaw
They need a new TV series with this ship. Go back to the exploration stuff like TOS.
Just as I was warming up to this ship as the show progressed, they went and named it the Enterprise G. Not my favorite decision they made for Season 3 for a multitude of reasons.
One of my favourite starship, I am a huge fan of the constitution I grew up watching the original series with my dad.
I was actually lucky enough to get this ship in Star Trek online and I name uss warspite ncc-1913-f
To follow the lineage of my own original ship, a ship that erne the respect of many
She's Beautiful...as a Constitution Class Man. I love the NX-01 Enterprise & USS Enterperise 1701 but the Titan that's a beautiful ship.
How is it you have only 55k subs? Your work is really good.
Tri, What do you think of the design itself and the decision to rename the Titan A to Enterprise G?
Hes back ❤
Always and Forever!
Loved this ship the moment she came on screen. Loved your video. Would love to see one on the S.S Eleos.
I don't get the appeal of moving backwards in terms of ship designs. Like.. enterprise D, E, F.. and now this thing?
I think Captain Shaw was the most interesting character introduced to Star Trek in a longtime. Makes me wonder why they killed him off so soon.
Love this ship upgrade of the Constitution Refit
....Honestly, I don't like most of it, especially the shape of the secondary hull. Its 'Too Smooth' and reminds me of a pinewood derby race car...'Too Smooth'...but, hey that's just IMHO.
....Aside from the secondary hull, the Biggest things about it is:
No carpeting...the floors look Slick and not in The Good Way...like unless you have some good threads on the bottom of your boots/shoes...you're going to keep sliding and falling all throughout the ship.
....Then...there's The Lighting. In the Titan-A, the 'new' Star Gazer and Rios' freighter'.
Yeah, its probably Kurtzman, who likes to frak up everything Star Trek...like the uniforms...freakin' DARK...you don't look like 'the good guys'...the uniforms look like they need washing with some bleach.
....The lighting, the slick floors and the uniforms are...Not Good...again...IMHO.
BUT...script wise....The Worse thing was re-naming the Titan-A...the Enterprise-G.
....Yeah...I understand why Terry did that. A neat idea, Terry...However...
Every Enterprise since the NX-01..have always been The Best, The Newest, The Largest of what Star Fleet had.
....I am complaining because YOU asked us to do so.
............Not Everything in the Trek Universe is Perfect...and I always laugh when the fans try to make sense of something the studio designers did...like the turbo-lift on Kirk's Enterprise..and suddenly We have 'The Reason' that was like that...( I would have NOT put it on the model. I would say that 'The Turbo Lift is in that tear drop structure." BOOM! Problem Solved.
....For the History of the Design..when it was really...a Designer thing..they did it because 'It looked Good' or something like that.
......"Hey, let's do this to this class of Enterprise, it will look really cool !"
But it screws around with the blue prints to be made later and scripts to be written later.
....Thanks for letting me get that off my chest in a place that maybe others might Agree.
I'm a first Generation Trekker/Trekkie...I am sensitive about The Enterprise, which ever one it might be....and yeah...while beautiful...that dorsal/neck was a liability militarily.
BUT it did look Good.
I still wish they'd just kept it a Luna class.
the Ponnie is a fine vessel
I like the look of the ship, though since it borrows so much from the Shangri-La, I kinda think Shangri-La II would be a better name for the class.
The CANON story of it (not knocking your own work though) is.....ridiculous ? a hundred year old hull with the internals of Rikers titan shoved into ? would have been fine in a Lost Era show following some unknown at the time crew. renaming the Titan to the Enterprise also robbed the Titan of a chance to build a legacy by just assigning it the Enterprise designation. also that 'too much damage, needs to be decomissioned' excuse was the same one they used for the Enterprise-F....a ship we never get to see in action as a hero ship.
Commodore Argyle... nice.
I didn't like the design at first but it grew on me. I still don't think it should be an Enterprise though.
I still think it need two more phaser strips one Dorsal and one ventral on the foreword saucer so it has the same phaser strip saucer coverage as the ambassador in conjunction still with the dual ball phaser bank current coverage and aft firing and secondary hull ventral phaser strips port and starboard
I know it's more of a fire at will ship and that's what I'm going to do with my lengendery constitution class
Cool just plain cool. 😉
So you prefer to stay “in universe” for your videos but I’d like to hear what you think about this choice as the Enterprise G?
Lol, i think it was.... a choice lol
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios aha! I thought so.
Also I have to ask, call me late to the party if this is the case. But I was playing Star Trek Armada 2 and Bridge Commander. Are you the voice Aegian class in Armada 2 and the sensor officer in Bridge commander? I feel like I recognize your voice.
Ah yes... I love this design. This even made me go back and find a new love for the Connie Refit. I never out right hated it, I just didn't see why people prefer it more than the TOS Connie. I get it now. I love the Original, Refit, Disco Connie and Neo almost equally now. Majestic.
I was hoping to have a Enterprise F show and Titan A show.
I feel like the E would still be in service and I'd like to see that. I feel like they are rushing through the alphabet 😂. My head cannon is the actual Sovereign show, just to get away from the Enterprise is the only ship in the quadrant.
@@scottyb68 apparently I agree with you on that
Great video, the only thing about the deisgn. I don't like is that the saucer section isn't completely round. I'm also surprised it was renamed the enterprise g considering it's actually a smaller ship than the F. Just saying
The Enterprise E is smaller than the Enterprise D.
@@ThomasFisher-jr6bnbut the E is MEANER. 😁
Nice job, will the Shangri La be covered too?
Great video😀😀
I hope they find some lightbulbs for the interior if we ever get Star Trek Legacy
To reduce the carbon footprint, AI light bulbs will be added in post production.
When I saw the Galaxy-class for the first time, I thought it was a cruise ship, minus the crap being dumped into the ocean. Eventually, I would go on to buy models, even numerous kits to build. Over time, I'd grown fond of the design.
Now, the more I look at Constitution-3, the more I want to look away.😢
I hate it's design. The torpedo launcher is blocked by the bottom of the saucer section and in the show when the torpedos fire they ether are fired at an angle or they have to maneuver around the saucer section.
The Titan should have kept her original name. Enterprise F should have remained the latest Enterprise. Even though I can't say I liked her design.
Meh. Okay, I mean it's neat, and all but I'm just kind of tired of all the backward looking nostalgia-driven choices being made. Want retro style Enterprise? Watch Strange New Worlds. I think the Enterprise-F being written off was an unforced wasted opportunity. It looked really cool and was more modern looking. It's 150 years after TOS, it should look like it. Enterprise-D made it seem like 100 yars had passed (at the time). Enterprise -G ironically makes it look what the Enterprise-B could have looked like LOL. Plus, renaming the Titan-A to Enterprise-G was totally lame and disrespectful to both the Titan and Enterprise names. Why not just let the Enterprise-G be a newly built Neo-Constitution class ship?
Shouldn't have named it Enterprise, the Titan earned its name, was simple fan service for the producer.
Overall, it's a nice design...however...from a balance perspective, it appears very front heavy; the engineering hull should be longer and more substantial to offset the excessive superstructure on aft end of the main saucer.
I am so mixed on this ship. Im not a fan of skme of jts design choices. Loke the rear section kf the saucer around the impulse engines and the hill arojnd the flrward secondary hull. It just makes the ship look awkward and bloated to me. Also i think in season 3 they didnt need to rename the Titan tk the Enterprise. I think it wpuld have beeb more fun to keep it the titan and either keave the next enterpeise a mystery (maybe see a general fame in construction in space dock) or fully refit the D.
I just don't like how dark the bridge is. That's just depressing. In the same show, they go to the Enterprise D bridge and see how bright it is. That's just good visuals for the whole, "Hey, we're going back to brighter times and brighter days!" Turn on the lights!
Please I love this let hope star trek leg Legacy become really
This Neo Constitution Class IMHO is a tier 2 or tier 3 ship at best - Not worthy being named "Enterprise"...... Great content as usual !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't think the neck is a flaw. It's probably easier to hit a warp pylon than the neck.
I have to say my only real question about this ship is why does it look like an intrepid class from enterprise
Did Argyle bombard Starfleet with a massive letter-writing campaign to get his project off the ground?
I wasn’t 100% convinced with this redesign. The saucer stylistically doesn’t match the lower half when you look at it from the forward side. Seemed a bit visually forced. I think the lower half could have kept the silhouette of the ship it has now but design with less windows, less lines and an overall smoother/sleeker look to get that 23rd century connection.
I kinda wish that a Verity-class was named Enterprise
I still don't understand the mix of phaser banks and strips. Has anyone heard a logical reason for that besides rule of cool?
I think this was more of an artistic feature than a tactical/logistical addition. I've done designs before that had three or more weapons systems. The tactical reasoning I used was from what I saw in the shows, it took time to retarget, re-tune, modify, remodulate, refocus, reroute, repair, and refurbish the long colomnated phaser banks. Even the Defiant had awkward moments where the phaser array had to be readjusted for purposes other than hit hard, hit ahead, and hit fast. The short segments of what are usually on the smaller hulls of the Nova, Norway, Intrepid, the aft arrays on larger hulls, all are rarely used. Why this is is undoubtedly related to the cost of animating the weapons, except for shots that are reused or sequences for the movies, where a larger budget was available. The notable standout was Nemesis, where Enterprise initially fires from "all banks" to find the cloaked Scimitar. We could have gotten a look at her firing all of her phasers "in a concentrated pattern." We didn't, so here we are, where the standard visual is where a long forward dorsal array winds up from opposite ends to converge into what may be a double-yield beam. Neat, well neat until the long series of banks takes physical damage along the emitter column or either power conduit from one end is severed. Here is what a dual beam turret can do. It can be set to deliver proximity blasts when the ship is alerted to possible cloaked ships in the area. The proximity blasts were at least partially effective against cloaked ships and add an usual depth charge vs. sneaky stealth ship feel. Somewhat like a boxer with a vague idea where their opponent is because an eye is swollen shut and they really don't want to get hurt again. The dual emitters can be quickly upgraded, replaced, repaired, refit, and reintegrated and continue to supplement the standard phaser columns. Each dual turret also has its own power conduit the branches inwardly toward a central distribution hub, deeper within the hull leading to either a fusion reactor assembly, or the main (warp) reactor. Why do most of the later designs eschew these turrets? Turrets have moving parts, this means more wear and tear, more maintenance. They require more power lines, which means even more maintenance, longer manufacturing times, and more resources. How about turreted pulse cannon? Well! Same advantages/disadvantages. Fixed cannons like the Defiant are only partially exposed, and can still probably be armored. More often than not, the standard volley from a Defiant will get the job done in a tight enough pattern to frag most targets. What about big, armored artillery, more is more, right? It goes against the diplomatic, word and ideas before weapons narrative of the shows. This isn't stare wars. That said, the large flagship cruisers and warships can mount centerline superfire turreted cannons because they don't have the agility of lighter designs. When the maneuver, it takes significant energy to change direction and puts strain on the structure to do so quickly. In those cases it may be better to mount two or four or eight (lol) heavy turrets in addition to heavy forward fixed mounts.
Just a thought, anyway.
Great ship design but I wish they had handled the backstory for it better in the show. With it being a refit, but not a traditional refit, and a take on the Constitution but also really just an upgraded Shangri-la, and how much of it was actually from the Titan anyway? They had to come out and explain so much of it outside the show to try to make any sense of it when they should have known from the get go that THERE WOULD BE QUESTIONS from this fan base.
Only thing I hate is the unwarranted rename.
The Constitution 3 is my most favorite next to the Sovereign. When I first saw it I was meh on it but now I love it. My only take away is the Titans legacy getting tossed to the side 👎
When Sisko renamed the USS São Paulo in DS9 to the Defiant I felt a chill down my spine. You don't do that. It's bad luck (unless you perform the proper ritual to appease Poseidon.. which I doubt Starfleet did). Then they go and rename the Titan to the Enterprise and a recognizable chill crept in.
First you do a disservice to Brazil, then you tempt fate with a race of pre-Olympian Gods? Oh boy. Good luck on that. 😆
Decommissioning the Enterprise F after she’s barely broken in is absurd. They really couldn’t have fixed whatever contrived issues she had huh? Starfleet was running Mirandas and Excelsiors forever, but their newer classes are basically disposable trash like modern day printers and cellphones.
i do love the design my self but the whole shangri la inspiration back story bothers me stil and the rename to the enterprise g was hoping to see a better ship then f and titan a renamed to picard
The enterprise legacy is in good hands with the enterprise g 😊
I'm not a fan of the engine design, but the rest looks pretty good.
Maybe there wasn't much left of the original Titan in it anyway
Took me a while to like this design.Is the Enterprise G to the same scale as the 1701A or bigger?
It's much bigger... Enterprise-A is 305m, Titan-A is 560m!
I really think it was a sh@ty thing for Starfleet command to rename it enterprise it undermine Shaw's redemption ark and a massive slap in thr face to all the familys of the crew who died. Ps it really should have been Captain 9. 7 to friends
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