21 Differences Between Managers & Leaders

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  • @adibafifi4707
    @adibafifi4707 7 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    This is by far one of the BEST video I've ever seen in VALUETAINMENT..This is what I need now, perfect timing. Thanks pat!

  • @businessfinance9756
    @businessfinance9756 7 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    A book in 13 min. Thanks!

  • @enimal524
    @enimal524 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think both being a Manager and a Leader is being able to have ascendancy over other people. The major difference is simply that Leaders tend to be more emotionnal and people centric, while Managers tend to be more analytical and task oriented. Personnaly I feel like I'm able to be both and I switch from one to the other by letting my emotions loose or restraining them.

  • @mellaoct
    @mellaoct 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're a charismatic leader for sure!

  • @Ayushkumar-cv3er
    @Ayushkumar-cv3er 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wow. Came here from the future qualifies CEO video. Gives clarity.

  • @mitchparker7763
    @mitchparker7763 7 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I also think there has to be a certain level of arrogance to be a great leader. Not someone who is very cocky, but if you do not believe in your self, no one else can.
    I plan on making a leadership series too, great video.

    • @rkaag99
      @rkaag99 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You're already in trouble if you can't identify the difference between arrogance & confidence.

    • @oscarsurf311
      @oscarsurf311 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes is a big difference arrogance vs confidence, I won't risk big profits with an imbecile thinking he is all great no!!!

    • @jamiehoekstra11677
      @jamiehoekstra11677 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A leader needs confidence; in both themselves and their team. Sometimes, depending upon the personality of the person, that confidence can seem to be arrogance.

    • @DarrenPearson
      @DarrenPearson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I prefer the term confident but, it’s a very thin line and, nobody likes arrogance, it’s a natural and globally shared human reaction to arrogance in any situation so, this quote works well in that regard;
      “Humble yourself before life humbled you.”

    • @BerquinDuvallon
      @BerquinDuvallon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know it hit us the same lol Even your remark, I would have phrased the same lol Crazy world. Nice meeting you briefly dear like minded :)

  • @Alexander-dz5xy
    @Alexander-dz5xy 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I m studying business management in netherlands, but trust me man, I learn more from your videos than from my classes here + it's much more entertaining to watch you than going to class

  • @benjivanloo8050
    @benjivanloo8050 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From all the people I met and were my influencers you still outrank as the best on all the others, thanks for coming back to us. 1 milion subs will only be the beginning! Hope to meet you in person after three years. Made an exponantial growth, and we both need managers and leaders to have a full construction!

  • @noahmiller8128
    @noahmiller8128 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow. So me and another kid are the captains in the wrestling team, I just realized that He's a FANTASTIC Manager, he keeps everyone in check but has little acceptance for failing, I see myself as a leader, I encourage, lead by example, and when people mess up I try my very hardest to ALWYA lend a helping hand. Even to kids that aren't on my team but if I see them outside in the hallway very upset at themselves. I get shut down half the time but those few times where I HELP people get outta a funk, that's why I do it

  • @ethankg9094
    @ethankg9094 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a Leader, Thank you for this confirmation! The clarity has never been clearer.

  • @michaelhuebner6843
    @michaelhuebner6843 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    #22 Managers focus on quantity and leaders focus on quality

  • @alejandroenciso1214
    @alejandroenciso1214 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Leadership is my choice of who I am. I have tendencies of Managers but mostly leaning towards leadership. It attracts me more because I feel that is my way of expressing myself to my people.

  • @ericlamont4130
    @ericlamont4130 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Led here through a class on management & leadership. Couldn't help but comment. This presenter is fantastic. I wish I could just have him explain all the concepts in my degree program!

  • @alvinmilton4654
    @alvinmilton4654 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    More of a leader than manager. Absolutely.

  • @33anele
    @33anele 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Patrick, you couldn’t have thought of a better name for your initiative. VALUABLE ENTERTAINMENT. Bang on! Love your content!

  • @jimcollectcards1830
    @jimcollectcards1830 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can’t believe I just found this channel I’ve been binge watching everyone of your videos and found out there is so much to learn appreciate the knowledge.

  • @mdixongross
    @mdixongross 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    +Valuetainment Many of these qualities together show that the manager is to care more for the present execution whereas the Leader looks towards the future and reputation if anything. I don't watch TV all that much but I think one of the best ways this can be seen is in SUITS. Another way to describe Oak/Willow is that the Manager shows off dictation while the Leader expresses his or her empathy. Excellent comparison and thanks for your time and effort!!

    • @mdixongross
      @mdixongross 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      By the way between Manager and Leader, I think I mostly take the Leader side. I can speak more when it comes to something to do between people rather than social situations. I think the qualities that make me shine in leadership are vision, address conflict, moving people forward / influence, giving credit, value, over-achieving, and love for risk.

  • @gregroddy7881
    @gregroddy7881 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Video seems to have some mileage on it... But, just watched this for a business class. This stuff really crushes it.

  • @ZemariaGuitarra
    @ZemariaGuitarra ปีที่แล้ว

    I was evaluating myself during the video. I´m definitely leaning toward the manager side!

  • @abhishekgubhaju9297
    @abhishekgubhaju9297 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I m just 14 year old guy from Nepal his videos have helped me alot..... Respect from Nepal...

  • @jhon2k1y
    @jhon2k1y 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Be a leader is influence people, inspire them, take some risks, have a vision, etc (like Pat), but you need to be a good manager too (or have one). I consider myself as a leader-manager, sometimes more a leader than a manager and viceversa. Thanks for this great video.

    • @versastyledio
      @versastyledio 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your choice between being a leader and a manager will vary according to the situation. One needs to have the emotional and business intelligence to understand when to behave as a manager or as a leader.

  • @ianadams3673
    @ianadams3673 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am Totally a Leader! Thanks Patrick, My Dad and I talk about this all the time and once I watched this it all made sense!

  • @neomaifisiiahi-latu7822
    @neomaifisiiahi-latu7822 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I first become a manager for 2 years and I build leadership qualities and I feel I am able to balance Manage and Leading people

  • @nobertstanel9428
    @nobertstanel9428 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am more on the leader side, at least i do all that i can, to become one, yet i didn't expected at all, that there was certain manager traits within me. Now, some serious work has to be done on those points. Gona re-listen this episode weekly. Thank you ValueTainment Team.

  • @sanchaylakhwani7112
    @sanchaylakhwani7112 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey buddy, You know Some times i think why am i doing this. others dont even care about it. But after watching your Video I am really Motivated.

  • @inhaeroisa2911
    @inhaeroisa2911 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So I really enjoyed this. Thanks Pat.
    This is the first time I e seen someone pose a manager in a positive light. It gives me a new look atanagers and by extention respect.
    Now. Personally I've been leading teams since I was 16 years old, I'm 35 now. Each year I learn new ways to lead. I have no problem with managers but I see myself more as a leader than a manager

  • @zamukwandamohale3878
    @zamukwandamohale3878 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Makes a lot of sense, I'm definitely a leader

  • @AcousticSilkvibes
    @AcousticSilkvibes 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is where PBD is at his best. Love these 22 type videos.

  • @C.I.A1947_
    @C.I.A1947_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Right now I'm heavily on the manager side but do have some leadership qualities I am a brand new manager and learning how to lead effectively. But this video helps a lot

  • @hustler579
    @hustler579 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I believe I'm a natural Leader, but experience has taught me to start thinking and acting like a manager! Great Content as always Pat! 💪

  • @seanraasch8180
    @seanraasch8180 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I definitely have more qualities from the leader side of things although I need to be both to be successful in my current position. It can be taxing but I'm doing it and will continue to. Your videos are a huge reason why, Patrick. Thank you!

  • @nickfleming3719
    @nickfleming3719 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    GOLD! Managers have to be leaders

  • @chrisborrowme1679
    @chrisborrowme1679 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Point per point made clear. And knowing my personality and attributes, I am a sure leader with no doubt.

  • @youlostabetwithsatanandnow8592
    @youlostabetwithsatanandnow8592 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can reflect on a lot about myself after watching this video. Thanks for the insiders prospective of me, stranger...

    • @corred4252
      @corred4252 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I eat bowls of cigarettes for breakfast goku is a leader

  • @mrpuh777
    @mrpuh777 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    2020 and still watching! Thanks Pat!!!

  • @cliftonberry9184
    @cliftonberry9184 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best of both worlds...it is harder to maintain than it is to gain.

  • @son_go_ma
    @son_go_ma 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm 80/20 on the leader side. The leader in me sets the vision and goals, defines direction and strategy. Then I try to become more managerial to execute all of it, work inside the boxes and make mini-systems to get stuff done efficiently and promptly. Leader oversees (being my own boss), manager zooms in and focus (diligently follow the leader's plan). I'm still learning as I go (still solo) but when I expand I plan to surround the leader in me with council/mentors, and essentially delegate the management to people better than me at execution and technical skills.

  • @fe3tfirmontheground
    @fe3tfirmontheground 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the best video on this platform 👏, super educational, well needed to hear. Thank you Patrick! I'm more on the leader side 😊

  • @rgbindia
    @rgbindia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am 80% a leader. Got this video right when I was confused if I was a leader / manager

  • @mehrozkhan111
    @mehrozkhan111 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the most valuable video, I watched this month

  • @dannymerry1786
    @dannymerry1786 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just began a role as a training coordinator in a billion $ business, after being in technical roles for the past 12 years, think I tend more towards leader though all my strengths are in the strategic/ analytical category. Aiming for CEO one day so starting to devolop the people skills now. Thanks for your videos Pat!

  • @clayclay95
    @clayclay95 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellently done! I can definitely see the relevance of what a manager does and how the leader takes it to the next level.

  • @rudolphrodolfo1323
    @rudolphrodolfo1323 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. You are 100% on spot with the Manager vs the leader. 👍

  • @Flankymanga
    @Flankymanga 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    one of the best videos of Valuetainment hats down....

  • @mikemagruder9589
    @mikemagruder9589 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    FANTASTIC video and break down. It's fascinating how both aspects are necessary and critical to personal success. Thank you!

  • @calderonjulian1
    @calderonjulian1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such valuable content. I am naturally on the manager side, but I’m striving to lead better by focusing on knowing when to let lose as well as empowering others.

  • @yanuarimansantosa
    @yanuarimansantosa 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m in minute 2.10 of your video when i write this comment, i must say THANK YOU PAT and THANK YOU VALUETAINTMENT, ok now i’ll just continue wacthing your video quitely...

  • @sunsirisin4130
    @sunsirisin4130 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Appreciate Always honor this channel as my best school

  • @antoniotorres1140
    @antoniotorres1140 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like a leader! I appreciate your time and effort.

  • @ricardoode711
    @ricardoode711 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I lean more on the leadership as far as putting in the valueables that is required to achieve good performance and a manager to fill another role of the system that is needed to be done in order to sell consistently.

  • @tarankalawat1646
    @tarankalawat1646 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you much Mr. Patrick!

  • @davidglover4416
    @davidglover4416 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best videos on this channel. I have had this exact dynamic in my company for years and it plays out exactly how you say

  • @brandongore8371
    @brandongore8371 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just stumbled on this talk and I just wanted to say thank you! Very clear and straightforward

  • @robertomaddaloni5841
    @robertomaddaloni5841 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video has so much potential content. You could write a 100 page book (at least).

  • @manyltef9811
    @manyltef9811 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Pat, very nice video. thkx. I more lean toward the leader because leader tend to trust, inspire and influence people rather than manager who tends to control more and look for credit. As a person dealing with authority issue, I rather go with a leader that put me in front of my responsibilities and let me do my thing....

  • @mquinniey
    @mquinniey 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! It makes it obvious I have room for improving as a great leader and manager! Thanks for helping me taking a step in the right direction!

  • @chelsealewis7898
    @chelsealewis7898 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Perfect timing with the video !! Great info as usual!!... In terms of discovering which one I am, I have to say that I am a mixture of both!

  • @beemer84
    @beemer84 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What an intro pat . Offence and defence alluding to leaders and mangers . God bless . For me main difference is the edge of sanity or hypomanic trait

  • @jennsjems3650
    @jennsjems3650 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    mostly leader , a few of the manager is me. this was a really great video!! thanks for this! I had to watch it for my WGU class. so glad I did .

  • @CenteredCedrik
    @CenteredCedrik 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a business owner, and as I learn every day how to be a better one, basically every one of these hats must be worn in one way or another. A business owner must have a system or at least be constantly working on a system for their business to be effective. I always aim to communicate to my employees to think like a business owner. To have perspective from an ownership viewpoint allows an employee a level of responsibility and skin in the game. I would like to see EMPATHY in this list as I believe this is key in any leader.

  • @peterpaul2846
    @peterpaul2846 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Very informative. I'm currently pursuing my MBA, and this video really helped me understand the fundamental differences between leaders and managers.

  • @jamiehoekstra11677
    @jamiehoekstra11677 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! I am a little bit of both, and even a little bit of both simultaneously. This will help me improve and become a more effective leader! Thank you sir!

  • @jacobl4534
    @jacobl4534 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a fantastic package full of awesome and concise knowledge. So much great information in under 14 minutes! Thank you!

  • @chriswade2871
    @chriswade2871 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    im a manager when it comes to my problems but a leader on other peoples issues, i need to learn how to look outside the box in my business

  • @phlintify
    @phlintify 7 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    A lot of Managers think they are Leaders ...

    • @sanchaylakhwani7112
      @sanchaylakhwani7112 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      A leader never thinks like that

    • @angieg9361
      @angieg9361 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can you be both a manager & a leader in a start up 🤷‍♀️. I feel like I’m both 🤣

    • @princealmighty5391
      @princealmighty5391 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@angieg9361 then quit fuck managers

  • @metallicapirate
    @metallicapirate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:15
    Dan Price didn't lose his best people, and his business has been thriving ever since.

  • @walboyfredo6025
    @walboyfredo6025 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is great, brilliant but the only thing l have a difference of opinion is at 4:00 , most managers l know "creare unnecessary conflict".. This unnecessary conflict develop ill feeling, loss of time and opportunities, from which they focus on "personal feelings" not on "... for the betterment of for the team".

  • @BestLEOmusic
    @BestLEOmusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can say that i am a leader! My job is "warehouse manager" - verry little to do with the manager side, but a lot to do with leadership! I am a good leader wich always looks for improvement and efficiency! I am every day looking to make each job more and more efficient! And i can say during the 5 years sice i am doing this, it works better and better!

  • @beep7
    @beep7 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great points! I have much room to grow but I'm a leader. Sometimes it's difficult working for a manager who can't see the greater possibilities for the business. I want to always leave breathing room for my team to know they can freely give ideas and even see action taken on some ideas.

  • @mistajay9017
    @mistajay9017 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. A lot of managers lack the charisma to draw people to rally behind them hence the resort to using the instruments available to them to drive people to deliver. I prefer having a good balance of both because I think it is necessary. I am more of a leader than a manager and I need to work on being "Oakish' sometimes.

  • @stgeorge4559
    @stgeorge4559 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a leadership type of personality when I deal with people personal or business I have way of showing a example then I get them thinking of what just been shown then either I get them to think afew steps a head or I'll give suggestions advise or solve a problem. When it comes to my own personal standards I always try to push my self the activities I do people would think I'm crazy lol but there all designed to get me thinking clearly give perspective to mimise fear or to indulge in stress so I can handle more mentally also with the books I read and other things.

  • @twinklemaraam4804
    @twinklemaraam4804 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video.got some on leadership side ,see this through leading myself and family.the rest is odds PBD taught me that.

  • @DGTessier321
    @DGTessier321 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I see myself more as a manager because I'm a lot more of a logical person than a dreamer. Also, I'm pretty sure that the security of being a manager versus being a Leader ( In most cases being Entrepreneurs ) talks to me the most because of a very unstable childhood. I am seeking a more stable environment rather than a more dangerous way of living than Leaders live.
    P.S : Great content once again Pat, your 10+ minutes videos go by so short for me because you make it so lively, it's incredible. I'm a young student and I'm looking up to a lot of your stuff on how to be a great businessman, keep up the great content, take care Pat!

  • @ynotbme0
    @ynotbme0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why is a manager logically and a leader emotional? I would have thought it the opposite.

  • @tafrasbusiness897
    @tafrasbusiness897 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My style would be leader, Awesome video with excellent value, also Pat, can you create a video about how to develop leadership/executive presence?

  • @adityakarekar4072
    @adityakarekar4072 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Respected Sir,
    I think we need both the manager as well as leader, we just have learn to make balance between them.
    I wish you with a great success and not millions but billions subscribers.
    Thank You

  • @nak3b
    @nak3b 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    9-12 Manager-Leader; I'm happy about that, would like to step up and be more of a leader in my life and for my community and world.

  • @a1dieselafrica
    @a1dieselafrica ปีที่แล้ว

    Champion 🏆

  • @FrederickAcquahTheGod
    @FrederickAcquahTheGod 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Pat. Thanks a million for these great contents. I have one question though - would you rather prefer all your employees to take leadership stands?

  • @mrjordan7304
    @mrjordan7304 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've always thought I'd fail in business because I use emotion more than logic, thanks pat for teaching me there's nothing wrong with a little emotion

    • @VALUETAINMENT
      @VALUETAINMENT  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Halo Sedrick 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽

  • @ptab6800
    @ptab6800 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear Valuetainment, This really helped me. The great news is that I know I am not a manager, The good news I am more than a coach and a leader. However, Here is my question, if a leader type person works for a manager type of manager, how do you see the situation? Appreciate it.

  • @michaelsheaks859
    @michaelsheaks859 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the valutainment channel and your charisma PBD, you need to have an interview with Gary Vee!

  • @ModularIsl
    @ModularIsl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    More of a leader. I know a great manager and if he pulls through for me right now we both get the exponential growth. He knows it's borderline impossible and so do I, but there's no other way. Eternal exile or perpetual bliss and it's simply a yes or no at the end of the day.

  • @jalalm4519
    @jalalm4519 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am definitely a Manager. Ok. So now what? This video was brilliant. I know what I am. But Pat, explain what to do now that we know who we are.

  • @kyawmyokm789
    @kyawmyokm789 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still do some of the things that manager does but most I find myself doing the things that leader does mainly because your value able vids and a little bit of experience. and one of my goal is to meet you in person in the future. I am 19 by the way.

  • @VanessasVanity4266387965
    @VanessasVanity4266387965 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yesss!!!
    I really loved how this was all broken down PBD.
    Good stuff.
    Thank you.

  • @JPBotero717
    @JPBotero717 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the info, but think both leadership and management are both super important. The way I see it is that great leaders are good managers too. Without good management leadership doesn't exist.

  • @drTERRRORRR
    @drTERRRORRR 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is brilliant! I manage the major/critical incidents in strategic ISP's domain for a few years now. I find the leader's approach doing wonders when you have to drive a bunch of brilliant engineers to resolve critical incident under a lot of pressure from senior management and the customer. They don't need a beaurocratic asshole telling them to do their job or they get fired.They simply need a guy who will jump out the trench yelling : "Follow me to the victory!" Sounds wierd,but that's how you spark the people when the shit is raining from the sky.

  • @NomadicNesters
    @NomadicNesters 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for this. I am learning a ton from this channel!

  • @rafizxDx
    @rafizxDx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You need both

  • @evanschuma7714
    @evanschuma7714 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    PBD you are number 1

  • @Post-ModernCzechoslovakianWar
    @Post-ModernCzechoslovakianWar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can relate more to the leadership side, I can definitely relate to taking crazy risk, influence, and long term goals, but with a few exceptions I tend to suck with details.

  • @usayeed727
    @usayeed727 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    20 for leader and 3 for manager. I've always felt like a leader and I'm just grateful that we have people like you to codify and provide guidance to get the best out of ourselves. Please keep up the good work Pat- very happy with your content.

  • @savorthepassion
    @savorthepassion 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm definitely on the leader side primarily. Particularly when I claim ownership. That being said I understand when I need to be more like a manager. Currently seeking more managerial-minded people as I continue to get closer and closer to my dead line. #circleoflife

  • @abdullahsa1898
    @abdullahsa1898 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interested concept...good approach for with example and comparation

  • @cynthiahenry5250
    @cynthiahenry5250 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is an excellent video, it's really one of the best and it's very helpful 💯💯 thanks for making this video

  • @ProfilipinohackerBlogspot
    @ProfilipinohackerBlogspot 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Pat, make a video about stock market please:)

  • @rescueswimmer84
    @rescueswimmer84 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Outstanding lecture!

  • @mohammadalnassar331
    @mohammadalnassar331 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    im on leader side and i thing need some improving on managing side thanks pat cheer :)

  • @kerrinbadham9599
    @kerrinbadham9599 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this interesting perspective on the difference between leaders and managers. I enjoyed the subtleties you raised. The differences arise mostly due to positional vs voluntary authority. Leaders typically govern over voluntary associations and managers over formal structured organisations. The reward systems are different in each as are the power each has to control and influence. By its nature, leaders need to influence positively while manager can use either positive or negative influence. However, your summary is an over simplification. Leaders of political organisations cannot be as radical as they may wish as they need to balance public and voter sentiment against their desired goals. Furthermore, they may be driven by numbers too - voter numbers or polls.