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- Air Venturi Avenger 177 / 22
Gamo Hunter Sport 177
Gamo Whisper Swarm 22
Crosman Premier Hollowpoint 7.9gr / 14.3gr
.177cal vs Deer
.177cal kills Deer
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Airguns are the most underestimated weapons in the world .
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Very cool. We've all had this question and you answered it
Thank you for your amazing videos but I would like to see this same type of test at 25 yards which is more realistic but thank you so much good job 💯
Thank you b.b. king, another great informational video by the king.
Best video you've done in ages 👍
Great video James keep it up!!
You can search for hog hunting videos with people using these same .22 cal gammo break barrels. At 25 yards or less with proper shot placement (head shots) they drop like a rock. If they'll take a hog there is no reason to believe they aren't capable of taking plenty of larger game. The key like always is accuracy and a very good understanding of an animal's anatomy. If you were ever forced into this situation you need to understand the anatomy in very specific detail. A lot of people might actually be surprised on how and where the brain is actually situated in the skulls of some animals and the areas of weakness in said skull structure. Know those weaknesses and a lot of larger game can be dropped by much smaller calibers than people typically think as native Canadians and Alaskans have proven for the past 100 years and longer.
hog skull is far more difficult to penetrate than a deers.
@@pearlrival3124 Correct, because of the extreme slope and thickness of the cranium.
@@Xtreme_Airgun_Slugs Behind the ear is the money spot for small caliper penetration..
@@airgunballistics1779 I've downed em with a .22 in the head
I’ve also heard of 357s bouncing off their bones
Here is a little tip..... If you are using 2 cameras with a mic turn one mic off and you will not get the echo........
I learned a lot from your video here, thank you!
Nice work 💪🏾
Sounds like a great video or even live stream from the king of b.b. guns. Looking forward to watching.
You gotta be extra, extra sneaky to use a .177 on a deer.....great video man.....
I’m from Pocatello😂 just randomly clicked on this video while looking at pellet gun reviews. What a coincidence!!
Thank you for the video. Wondering have you done any penetration tests with .22 on fabric
Thanks
Thankyou.
I've watched Keith Warren airgun videos where he was taking hogs out to 25 yards with a .22 gamo break barrel.
Hmm.. My understanding was that gun he was using was a .25 cal in that video..
@@airgunballistics1779 most likely
Yes, Keith Warren used a Gamo Whisper.22 when he killed two hogs (see his video ‘TWO Headshots on Hogs with GAMO Air Rifle’). This other guy killed a hog with Gamo Swarm Magnum in video 'Killing a hog with a .22 Gamo Swarm Magnum 10x with an ATN Night Vision X-Sight II 5-20x scope'. But some kill wild boars even with .177 caliber Gamo rifles - for example in the video 'Hog Hunting Using a GAMO Airgun', and in the video 'Hog Hunting with Gamo Hunter Extreme Air Rifle', then a guy named Pigman in the video 'Pigman Shoots Pig in Brain with Gamo Air Rifle! ' Of course, without legal permission such hunting should not be done. Today’s air rifles are not a joke but are serious weapons that need to be handled as carefully as firearms.
It is as possible as hunting a bear with a 410
Its doable, but with extreme skill
@@airgunballistics1779 no it was .22 i have seen .22 take deer hogs even feral cats up to 50 yards
What is a good air rifle. Never had one or used one. What do you prefer 1.77 or 22 or 25. Thanks
Hey how ya doing? I would like to know what weight of pellets you are using during your test with the Deer shoulder?
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I'd like to see that same test with a fresh skin/fur on top of the wrapped meat.
easily penetrable. not like digging in the meat or bone.
No kidding, deer hides are freaking tough
Biggest buck I’ve ever harvested was at less than 15 yards with a muzzleloader. I wish I would have had a bow with me at the time. I also harvested a 12 pointer at 8 yards with a .308. Again, I wish I had my bow with me then.
The first deer I ever shot was at15 yards. I was in a tree and it didn’t know what hit it. (30 30 Winchester) That same day, I walked up a tree that had fallen and got hung up. I was about 15 feet off the ground and several deer walked right under me without noticing me.
My Beeman 1336 , with the hammer spring set at max power, can fully penetrate a common plumber’s propane bottle at 15 yards with Crosman Powershot Red Flight pellets. ( the blue , EMPTY, Walmart propane bottles) I’m totally confident that I could brain or spine a deer at that range, with that rifle, if it was absolutely necessary to keep from starving. I’d drop it like a rock.
Heck James, you oughta test those things. They’re expensive, but pretty amazing.
I'm guessing you'd be traumatized after shooting a deer in the spine with a pellet rifle. If it had enough power to penetrate the skin and sever the spine the deer would scream bloody murder, roll around with what it could still use of it's half paralyzed body. I've seen it happen, with a real rifle. Spine shots ARE NOT ETHICAL, and will not ever be effective with a pellet rifle, especially a .177. Guy a few years back went hunting at our camp and spine shot the deer with a .243. The deer freaked out, was miserable in pain, screaming like you wouldn't believe, dragging it's rear end.
@@kylepeak7033shoot again.
Not all .177s are made alike I own 4 Gamo's the Magnum and the Mach 1 in .177 penetrates both sides of a metal 5 gallon paint bucket at 25 yards. The Whisper 22 for me only dents the back side. Really want a Mach 1 .22 or better yet a magnum which is out of stock.. The .177 magnum breaks the sound barrier on regular 7 gr pellets half the time its insane. Even the PBA at 1650 fps doesn't do as good as a heavy slower pellet for penetration.
Never underestimate anything that fires a projectile. I killed a grey fox at 50 yards with a Daisy Model 35 multi-pump pneumatic BB rifle that I bought used, 655 FPS with a steel .177 BB. I had a $15 3-7X20mm Tasco scope. Standing, 1 chest shot. He ran about 20 yards & game over.
BB iron balls? Not lead pellets?
@@tomvanderham1416 It was just regular steel BB’s. As someone said, most likely my airgun dieseled from oil vapor to get that much velocity.
Great video but I would really like to see is at what point does a pellet rifle that has say 800 to 1000 velocity lose its penetrating power and cannot go through the deer. For example, one shot at 25 yards, one shot at 50 yards.
you could repeat it with a 25 caliber or even day 30 ca I’llo caliber be a good series to do. I hope you use the Abecause that’s what I’m gonna buy. It’s the SS pro model plus.
Next time try using a heavier pellet for .177cal like 16.2 grain pellets I think it would do more damage at 10 Or 15 yards
And keep I mind that these are mid power Airguns. My gammo magnum.177 is putting down 21 foot pounds. And my buddies beeman .22 is putting out 30. Go with something like a Hercules Bully and you’re getting 50 in .177 and 60 in .22
Make some more videos .177 vs .22 which one is better for pigeon knock down 🙏
Some people take roe with 12ftlbs down near the base of the ear, no further than 15m, the skull on a roe doe is really thin and fragile and they just give up easily, get a tap by a dog and they're over, scream a bit but definitely not one of those animals that'll keep going without realising they're dead
My dad told me that during The Depression in northern Wisconsin, he and his brothers often poached deer with .22 rifles (not air rifles) and took every deer down with a single shot to the neck. As they were "shining" them with a spotlight, they were able to get fairly close. Don't know how well this would work with an air rifle in a SHTF scenario, but might be worth a try...
First hunting gun Benjamin 22 rocket air pistol still hunt with it today
Poaching is hunting for real men
In my Dad's case, they were really poor men during the Depression. There weren't any social "safety nets" and people were desperate in those days. My fear is that we're heading into ANOTHER depression that will be just as desperate for many, as too few men nowadays know even how to hunt, fish or trap...@@Hungryhunter762
NICE VIDEO JAMES IT'S VERY INFORMATIVE AND INTERESTING SUBJECT . I'VE SEEN THAT CALIBRE .22 IS A BETTER AIR GUN RIFLE FOR THAT, WHEN IT COMES TO PENETRATION , IT HAS A BIGGER PUNCHED . SEE YOU ON YOUR NEXT VIDS .
why was the gamo swarm whispers fps so low I just got that one and its rated for 900 to 1300
Great video! Just a question: Skin is extremely flexible and destroys even ammo from powerfull firearms. Surely most of these pellets would not penetrate far enough if the skin was present????
Exactly...like a catcher's mit
That happens when the velocity is too high for the strength of the projectile. If a bullet blows up on the surface, even if the calculated kinetic energy is thousands of pounds, you only get a surface wound. That same bullet at a lower velocity may be capable of full penetration of the target. The key is to find the sweet spot between the bullets construction, mass ,velocity and momentum matched to the toughness of the target.
Super frangible bullets ,if pushed too hard ,can even disintegrate inside the barrel. FPE alone doesn’t indicate the terminal performance of a projectile on a given target. Mass , bullet construction, velocity, momentum and the target’s strength all go into the equation. Just because a bullet calculates to several thousand pounds of kinetic energy at a given velocity, doesn’t necessarily mean it will work. It’s all relative.
@@chopsddy3 - I did not know that. Interesting.
A square shot is critical with so little kinetic energy .
I've personally shot through 3/4" board at over 50yds with my gamo swarm magnum gen 2 and it will certainly pass through a deer 🦌 shoulder
I also have the 22caliber Hatson Blitz Air Rifle
Wondering what it would do at 50 yards and 100 yards?
I'm about to test mine with a tablet from about 60feet away.
How do u all feel about the gamo bigcat 1000 22.
Hi James! love your videos, could you please do another 22 lr shooting groups video? thanks for all the content!!
Then that mule deer was shot at almost point blank range! Hmmm...
but...i know someone who do shoot deer with .177 headshot, every year and i saw with my eyes that deer drop dead instantly...also did that in Ungaria on a 120kg hog, took him out with .22 cal right between the eyes...drop stone dead... i personaly will never take the chance to shoot in the body just birds, from rabbits up to deer and also cows...just between the eyes....
I wonder if 25 or 30 cal would penetrate at 50yds
To understand pellets being shot from an airgun..the higher the weight. the more penetrtion, less chance to be misdirected by a cross wind it has a lower distance range. the lower the pellet weight, the less penitration a little farther distance but could be blown off course by a crosswind.
If you don't think a Gamo magnum 22 will take a deer then your fooling yourself.
Think so?
Very interesting video.
I know archery isn't your thing...but it would be interesting to know how an arrow at those distances would compare.
Thanks for sharing.
An arrow in comparison is not even a comparison. A proper razor or mechanical broadhead would bleed the deer out all together before the .177 would cause enough internal bleeding to fall the deer.
Nice video,very informative but the music was little out of place.
Try using different ammo, preferably H&N hornets.
Hell yeah !
They pierce right trough a car door with ease.
Tho the H&N terminators does more damage against clay than the hornets. I'm waiting summer to test them at the srap yard.
no video?
Interestingly, you can hunt a deer with an air rifle but you have to aim for the head, aiming elsewhere is not highly recommended because the live skin is very flexible and can stop the pellet, here is a video of a hunt with an FX pcp
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In South America it is not strange to hunt with modern rifles, especially PCP, since firearms are very restricted in use and transport.
.22 no joke. Not if SHTF, when SHTF I'm glad I have .22 break barrel. Near quiet, enough for small game to surely eat, And I'm sure it would tame an angry human from 50 yards, enough time to reload.... I'm sure from 20 yards away, you could take a fawn out with correct shot placement. But if in a tree, between the eyes shot... lol. Cool video though!
As many powder actuated firearms i own. My pcp air rifles have taken more game successfully than all of them" legally of course " but air rifles are no joke
What pellet is he shooting? The Gamo is weak though
Gamo swarm magnum shoot .22 at 1300fps how is that weak? That’s the best air rifle out atm
I have a bunch of different pellet types
Those that dont get deer in close are propably the ones that use all that scent control. I had them right under me and i damn near spit on their head lol
Hey can you actually make a deer hunting video with the air venturi .22 cal. Loved the video very fun to watch.
You aren't actually allowed to hunt deer with these my man
@@nicholasbrassard3512 not even on your own property?
No it's not ethical. If you mess up the animal is going to be in agony and you probably wont find it@@kingkong167
the best shot is thru the eye aiming for the opposite ear. takes out the brain stem. 2nd best is in the back of the head at a distance no farther than 35 yds. real-world experience at a game ranch in Mexico. even took a javelina with a shot thru the ear.
Do you think 22caliber Quest Nite Ops 1100FTPS Air Rifle would be able to take down a deer
Shot placement is the important part also check out the h&n pellets that have a golden metal tip
this kid funny af.. evry time he shoots he screams WOW! omg tha funny
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Crossman Premium pellet s Deobloes 22caliber and GAMO Red Fire Rugar Hunting pellet s 22caliber Crossman Peronia Pellets
STHF?
When I was 17 I killed my first deer with a 22 pellet break barrel. Was honestly just shooting to be a dick and was being immature and stupid and doing such but to my surprise it dropped. I hit it around it’s spine in its neck I’m guessing I hit just the right spot to drop it because it took 2 steps than froze up and just dropped
The feds are looking for u son.
Wood stock Gamo? Which 1?
Hunter sport, older model
Yeah it's impressive but your not taking in account the thick fur and hide. I doubt it would make it very far beyond that. Currently I'm using a 177 for squirrels and if you don't hit them correctly in the head they run away so I sure as heck wouldn't shoot a mule deer
Pellets or bbs? Cause a BB gun uses 177 bbs pellets are different I’ve killed bobcats with a gamo 177 one shot to the head right into its brain no doubt in my mind I could kill a deer
if you use H&N hornet .22 it will pass through the entire deer. lol. out of gamo magnum
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My .177 gamo magnum is more powerful than most .22 breakbarrels. My wildcat whisper .22 only does 17-18fpe while my .177 gamo magnum does 21-23fpe.
Real? How can it is possible?
I don’t recommend this unless u a goddamn marksman and gorilla warfare expert.
Guerilla*
Can you do a video to show is it possible to kill a fox or a coyote with a .177 break barrel Nitro piston rifle
You would probably wound it and it would run off suffer and die,u have to get a perfect hit behind the ear up close,I'm 63 I know.
th-cam.com/video/hFChoKH4Scg/w-d-xo.html
LMMFAO guy tries tell people they aint doin something right and then grabs his rifle by the scope... hmmm