Welcome to faith, brother/sister. I've been a Catholic since I was born (Eastern style), but I've never been closer to God in my 32 years on Earth than after listening to Dr. Peterson. His interpretation of the meaning behind the words in the Bible and the truth of morality in God made me feel much more closer to the Lord than ever before. He's a valuable gift of God to this age to bring people back into faith imho.
Bishop Barron could sit down with my pet bunny rabbit for a chat, and I'd press 'like' :) God bless these two men and may we, in His Mercy, have at least another 20 years of their goodness and wisdom! Peace :)
Jordan Peterson opened my eyes to the depths of the Bible. Bishop Barron opened my eyes to the depths and beauty of Catholicism. I've been Catholic now 5 months and it's been an immeasurable gift to my life! Catholicism is everything I've been looking for and more. Christ and his Church are truly the 'fulfillment of all desire'!
My name is Matt and I'm an alcoholic/addict. In recovery. On going process. Today I celebrate 7 years of sobriety. It can be done. If can do it you can too!
"It works if you work it, so work it, you're worth it" Slogan of my hubby's home group. Proud wife of a friend of Bill W. he is 22 years sober. K.I.S.S - Keep It Simple Stupid - that's their other big one LOL Congrats
Bishop Barron was instrumental in my conversion from hardcore agnostic to hardcore practicing Catholic. God bless you your excellency and thank you for the incredible evangelization work you do.
@@caylonwells839 I'm not him, but I want to note something interesting worth pointing out. Pretty much everyone these days is a deist. Non-practicing Christians believe in a deist God, those of "no-religion" yet "spiritual" assume a deist God, even some of those who do go to church every Sunday have deist beliefs. Very interesting. Deism doesn't survive as an intellectual position for long these days, but it's so incredibly pervasive in American society it's almost suspicious.
If I return to Christianity, it will be either as a Catholic or an Eastern Orthodox. My biggest hang-ups are eternal, inescapable Hell (and the fact that Ben Shapiro and a lot of really chill people are going there) and predestination to that fate. And from what I've heard the latter is considered a heresy by both denominations.
How can anyone be pessimistic for the future when millions of people around the world can hear these two genius torch bearers of truth deliver such profound yet relatable and life changing actionable wisdom for FREE while washing the dishes? The Word will not be defeated!
I’ve been thinking the same, Kevin. I can see the effect of this God wisdom sharing on me, and feel hopeful that this is happening to many more people. Future is bright ❤ 🕊️
@@Person4649Personyes but very few if any who have done so with the same popularity and reach, coupled with the same explicit intention of exposing how detailed and rich the Christian typography is.
Thank you both for this illuminating discussion. As someone who hasn't been able to conceive of myself as an atheist for quite some time, but struggles with some questions and doubts towards embracing Christianity, I really found some answers in this discussion that I was wrestling with and that helped to illuminate my path a few steps further ahead.
@@TraditionalHippie No, I meant in a sense of Descartes, did you reconsider it? Did you actually look? Regarding the Great Schism, the the Orthodox Christianity. I don't know Bishop Barron, but if you are truly looking, I'd suggest to look into Father Seraphim Rose's life, boos, lectures.
I'm only half-way through this and it's probably the most relevant conversation to my life that I've ever heard. And I've heard a lot. I bet I listen to this innumerable times over the rest of my life.
@@MichaelBrown-me3bh hey man, you're the one attempting to be negative. It reflects badly on you, not the one you're attacking, so keep on with that if you want to
Here's hoping that you are right. I sense, especially following Tammy Peterson joining the Catholic faith at an Easter Vigil Mass last Saturday, that Jordan is trying to figure out how he can most responsibly and best serve his huge audience by including them on his journey down that same path.
Wow, I feel like I should get college credit after listening to this. Or brain weight lifting workout. So thankful for the unpacking of Truth by these 2❤
Ooooo this looks good! Also, I have recently converted to Catholicism after many years of studying theology in a Protestant university and church hopping different denominations.
@soundscapeproductions9173 It's more complicated than that, tho. Different denominations have variations of beliefs and traditions. Some contrary to others. Based upon their own interpretation of scripture
@@soundscapeproductions9173 Us Catholics think it's strange why all Christians don't just follow the Church that Jesus founded. Why do people have to make up their own denominations? 😅
And how amazing the mental and emotional connection. So very special. I wish I had a human I could share ideas with like these wonderful, wise, mindful humans. God Bless you and thank you for sharing your passion fo and love of God and faith.
These two Men are Box Office when they get together and talk about Faith and God and The Holy Bible. The World needs these Men conversing on every possible platform. It’s jaw dropping. May God bless them both and continue to light their paths so they can illuminate Him for the World to see in all His Glory.
Why aren’t we taught what Bishop Barron beautifully explains about the Catholic tradition on the concept of God and how to follow the true path to living? Why has it got to be Jordan Peterson to eke out his Eminence’s explanations? It’s so sad that as a 55 year old having lived all my life immersed in Catholicism I finally get the answers to a million metaphysical questions on TH-cam rather than at church. Bishop Barron life would be much easier especially for the younger generations if these teachings are included in the doctrine of faith. Thank you Jordan Peterson. You are a shining light in a darkened world. A prophet in our midst. Don’t stop telling the truth and quickening brilliant minds and souls to share and teach path to the highest possible good. You and your family are in our prayers. God bless you and keep you strong.
Bishop Barron addressed this point in the Member Exclusive. Also if you watch Word on Fire he has been agreeing with you for a decade at least. God bless.
Church speaks on the readings during the mass. These discussions happen in groups, books, ETC. Two different required scenarios given the event. Also consider the audience needs. There's no excuse, the Church offers different levels of teaching if you wish, each area has its importance. Mass vs entry faith books vs advanced teachings. It's all available to the person wishing to learn
I agree, seems like in a way a second coming of Christ. Not that Peterson is Christ, there is only 1 Jesus of Nazareth, But the spirit of Christ, being embodied, especially in such a dark time as this, Peterson serves a light to the word of God no doubt We know that Jesus is the word, and the word was made flesh and dwelt among us Jesus said, Abraham rejoiced to see my day, he saw it and was glad How did he see Christ? Christ is the word, the word manifest in the flesh, through faith Before Abraham was I AM He was the word that came to Abraham and was manifest in Isaac The same word manifest to the countless multitudes throughout time, through faith ( search the scriptures, in them you think you have eternal life John 5:39 ) Without faith it is impossible to please God We can't even see or know God except through faith, by faith we see him and know him When Christ came 2000 years ago, the church and state were at the peak of corruption, seems a lot like it is now You hypocrites, how is that you can discern the face of the sky but not discern these times? Luke 12:26
As for somebody who never grew up in the church and always had a belief, I have always believed that this is real church. The father is smiling upon yall Keep up the good work.
I've wrestled with many topics covered in this video. I have much work to do, but was happy to here solutions to those questions. I haven't been involved in religion in over 40 years. My son recently asked why that was, I've always talked about God, serving something greater than yourself etc but wanted to know why we didn't attend Church. I did my best to explain, but have always said we all walk with God a little different from one another. He is now involved in the Catholic Church, and I see that walking with God is the only solution to the social condition we are in. I greatly appreciate the work that's going on to support Christians and provide language that makes sense to all who will take some time to listen, and think about the discussion rather than regurgitate a bullet point narrative. Thank you very much!
Two of the greatest religious/philosophical thinkers of our time. They go over my head sometimes and I have to rewind, but I usually get the message in the end.
My head hurts, but my heart says yes. Tried to pick up what I can from these 2 brilliant men. I love listening to the Bishop and I'm not even Catholic! God bless you both.
Great talk. JBP got me interested in christianity again. BB got me (back) into catholicism. Im currently reading the (word on fire) gospels. Its a work of art. Love it. Thanks!
Let us pray for Jordan Peterson that he will be restored to health and be released from the chronic pain he is enduring.Amen.Bless Bishop Baron big time Amen.✝✝✝🛐
In my early life I had always vastly underestimated the wisdom and knowledge of priests. Now I just shake my head at what I learn from them when I open up my damn ears.
Barron is being masterful here in many areas with Peterson. Rather than correcting Peterson's bad theology on MANY points and his importing of ideas onto the biblical texts he just ignores them and comments on points of agreement with real theology and expands what Christianity actually teaches There are a number of thinkers today rooting for Peterson to become a Christian and this is a masterful attempt at it.
Yeah. I've also been in the loop. Instead of trying reinevent the wheel I'm learning about what was done previously through the traditions preserved and taught by the church.
I think what is important is to notice when your brain says "That's right" and take a step back to analyze why you agree with the statement on such a deep level. Your paraphrasing vs what Barron actually said is a good starting point, because how you phrase statements gives light into how you think about a subject.
The Clip of Bishop Barron's comment at the beginning about the linkage between Jesus and Job immediately caught my attention. I haven't listened to the entire episode, but have saved it for later, so it may be "old news" for others. But one of the first things said about Jesus at His birth was that He was wrapped in swaddling clothes. One of the last things said about Him was that He was stripped before being hung on the cross. I've been aware of those to passages for years, but only recently did they bring to mind Job's acquiescence to his circumstances “Naked I came from my mother’s womb, And naked I shall return there. The Lord gave and the Lord has taken away. Blessed be the name of the Lord.” Job 1:21
When JP gets filled with the Holy Spirit he will see the picture more clearly. This will enable him to put the puzzle pieces together with a heavenly perspective that will enlighten that amazing God given brain.
Noone can truly say whether or not someone else has been filled with the Holy Spirit. Although, it seems to me that if JP had accepted Jesus, he would be saying certain things just slightly different. But to answer the question, even the devil knows the word of God.
Neolawyer - If I can speak the same words I have heard agnostics and atheists say and if I was assigned to be one of these protagonists to the Christian faith & doctrine, I can and have done it. My heart was not in it as my heart belongs to the Holy Spirit, 1 member of the Triune God. Peterson, to my knowledge is not a Christian, but he is smart enough to be able to analyze Christianity and speak about it. I hope one day his heart will be in it.... because he finally gives in to the God of our world and becomes His. (Looking at Peterson's body language as he listens to the bishop's words, I would guess he is still not God's.)
@@BlueandWrightGood analysis, friend. Peterson has been fighting a battle with God over some time. I hope he finally gives to God's Headship and leaves his human ego behind one day..... for his eternal sake.
Hmm, interestingly enough Paul the apostle clearly states in Acts 2:17 “And it shall be in the last days, saith God, I will pour forth of my Spirit upon all flesh: And your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, And your young men shall see visions, And your old men shall dream dreams”
Just when one thinks that a conversation between Dr Peterson and Bishop Barron has reached a summit, there is an other episode that blows one's mind. Sincere thanks to both for sharing your incredible knowledge and insights.
Two of my fav Mentors Right here. I Loved The Interview with Tammy and Bishop Baron and It really is a miracle what she has overcome Jordan. Delighted she is doing The RCIA and getting here guidance from the catholic church.
Pope Benedict said that grace - (love of God) we recieve from God and the more we give it away the more it multiples in the spiritual life. "It is in giving we recieve" easy to talk about but hard in real life .. 🙏
I love listening to these. Two amazing men!! God bless you Jordan Peterson for being courageous enough to seek truth, which I am certain you will find.
Electrifying, every single word. I feel strengthened, inspired and focussed. My faith has gained sharper contours. Amazing that this is available at no cost .. 😊
God Bless! I am a Catholic. And I dont know where you stand on the schism but I hope our leaders can reconcile. But I understand if you dont see it that way. Anyways best to you(:
I think after dabbling in both, what we need is something like the Catholic faith but in the middle ages. That seemed to be the ideal in terms of traditional theology and bearing the most fruits.
Could this be the best conversation I have ever heard? Cleaning my garden room office floor on Passion Sunday in Lent, I have here expounded to me the precepts I have been reading about in Psalm 119, the very foundations of how to live life righteously. That’s a word that never gets used in our culture. Thankyou and may God bless you both - you are gifts to humanity.
Bishop Barron and Jordan you just gave “the Sermon” of a life time! My whole life with Jesus just shook me to the core, how unbelievable it is that I have the blessed fortune of my Catholic faith and your spiritual guidance. 🙏🏻 AMEN 🙏🏻
These two men together are a charm. Bishop Barron demonstrates a healthy mature Catholic intellect. Detaching from the current pope's thoughts as well as traditionalist, he offers an impressive scholarly mind.
@@matthewsalkeld5326 Not this video that I noticed. He occasionally catches himself. He is aware of it, even having said that his family has pointed it out. It's annoying, but I offer the grace to see it as I would an excited little boy telling me all about his treasures and adventures.
@@maytt675something I noticed as well, but I agree with you that it's excitement and a willingness to continue to dialogue (play to use his language) rather than malicious. I struggle with the same thing in deep conversation with others at times, so it's a good reminder to see it in others and work on it.
I love you God, thank you for allowing human creation. Ive found you. I've broken the spell on man kind. Thank you heavenly father for letting me be apart of this!!! Keep watching 😉🫂
I could listen to Bishop Barron discuss Biblical theology all day. He has a way of cutting through the BS for me and revealing the philosophical within the spiritual, or vice versa, whichever the situation calls for. It's really a Masterclass in the sublime, revealing the deeper meanings within the bible and it's charachters and archetypes, drawing a line between them and our own lives. I get the enrichment of his pearls of wisdom every single time i hear him speak. And i know it impacts me instantly, because my pride submits and my humility steps out of the shadows. I'm just so, so thankful to live in a time when i get to hear him speak, across the globe, listening from the palm of my hand. His words just resonate and cut straight through my own personal folly, aligning my heart to Gods heart. Epiphany after epiphany, land, hit and change my thoughts and actions in ways that would take me months, years, who knows how long to do without them ? Thank you God, for working through the Bishop as you do. Thankyou Jordan for allowing this wonderful synergy of your minds to come together again, and thank you BB. You truly are one in a million, a gift from God to those that have ears, and i appreciate you far beyond my ability to express in words, how profoundly you have impacted my life. God bless ❤
Oh this will be soul nourishing! I’ve been listening to so much Bishop Barron and Jonathan Pageau lately, filling in the embarrassing gaps my fundamentalist upbringing left me with, gaps in the knowledge of the church fathers and church history church story and the liturgy and iconography. This will be a feast of reason and flow of soul. Speaking of story, I wove a coherent essay out of my insights connecting Dr. Peterson’s Great Schema suit jacket and the legend of St. Christopher, patron Saint of travelers and whom Jonathan calls “God’s Dog.” Entitled “A Suit, A Schema, and a Saint,” it will be out from Wrong Speak Publishing next week. And finally, dearest Dr. Peterson, I was thinking about seeing you soon on the “we who wrestle with God” tour, and I thought of Jacob saying to the angel, “I will not let thee go until thou bless me.” God bless you, dearest Dr. Peterson, and keep you under the shadow of His wings. With Ruth Anne’s love ❤
I challenge anyone who's never tried to pray the rosary for a week. Meditation, contemplation, story telling, new perspectives, etc, it has all that and more. Apply all the mysteries to your life and put yourself in the shoes of everyone present in those stories.
Why should people pray to Mary? Jesus is our intercessor and Savior, the only way to God and he's sent his Holy Spirit. Certainly asking fellow believers to pray for us without worshipping them or elevating them above God who created them is not objectionable, but there is clearly a difference between believers who are in the world but not of it and those who have gone to glory. When Saul has the witch of Endor call Samuel up, he asks why Saul has disturbed him.
@@heatherd4492 Why should you ask your brother or sister in Christ to pray for you? If you pay attention to the words of the prayer, that is all we're doing in the Hail Mary "Pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death" Nobody likens her to God. To your other point, that is not a very good comparison. Saul specifically had witchcraft done in an attempt to have mastery over what God alone has mastery over. He tried to communicate with the dead for his own personal gain (or so he thought). Beyond that, doesn't it just make sense to ask the saints and Mary for prayer? They are closer to God than we, and Jesus Himself has shown that He listens to Mary, even though it was not yet His time. He loves His mom, and so do we!
@@frank2453I actually don't ask friends and family to pray for me. We never see Jesus doing that, nor do we once see him instructing his Twelve to ask people to pray for them. Praying _with_ others to the Father is good. But asking others to pray to God _for_ you is a Roman thing to do: it gained precedent among all Christians by virtue of the founder of the RCC, ie its first first full time Pastor.
This is one of the most enriching and beautiful, and inspiring conversations I've heard to date,by two great charitable and humble geniuses.i highly recommend a listen.
@@BlessXNinja It’s my understanding that mens’ suits didn’t originate until the 1800’s. That being said, I would imagine that back in Jesus’ time they did the best they could with what was available to them. That was the focus of my comment - it says a lot about a man (& a woman, too) when they take care of the sartorial items they have & use them to look the best they possibly can. The attention to detail - whether it’s a well-kept inexpensive white tee & blue jeans or a high-dollar 3-piece with tie tack & cuff links - clearly displays a person’s state of mind & the pride & care they take of their appearance. Dressing well isn’t a matter of one’s financial state, although I’m sure a lot of people could afford to dress better if they’d better prioritize what they choose to spend their money on, a lot of people spend their money foolishly. In my eyes, dressing well is taking good care of the clothing items you have & paying attention to detail in being well groomed. Simply my thoughts!
@@wendellbabin6457 No “if”, she doesn’t do dating apps. A kind, true heart & integrity are the most attractive things of all, in anyone. Never have I said clothing make the person - I merely appreciate seeing people take pride in their appearance, a nice tee/blue jean combo is awesome, all day long.
I'm a new practicing Catholic after 18 years of atheism, and Bishop Barron is a very important part of my faith.
Also a former atheist. God bless you.
I love Bishop Barron too! You should check out Father Ripperger next!
Father Ripperger takes you to a whole new level of comprehension.
Welcome to faith, brother/sister. I've been a Catholic since I was born (Eastern style), but I've never been closer to God in my 32 years on Earth than after listening to Dr. Peterson. His interpretation of the meaning behind the words in the Bible and the truth of morality in God made me feel much more closer to the Lord than ever before. He's a valuable gift of God to this age to bring people back into faith imho.
I absolutely adore and admire Bishop Barron… He was our saving grace during Covid, and we couldn’t attend church, which was insane!
I'm a simple man, I see Jordan interviewing Bishop Barron, I press like
Bishop Barron could sit down with my pet bunny rabbit for a chat, and I'd press 'like' :) God bless these two men and may we, in His Mercy, have at least another 20 years of their goodness and wisdom! Peace :)
Haha that made me feel so basic
Yes, we have to support the good work even if we don't have all the answers or do not understand issues fully!
So did I!😂
A bridging of reason and faith
Jordan Peterson opened my eyes to the depths of the Bible.
Bishop Barron opened my eyes to the depths and beauty of Catholicism.
I've been Catholic now 5 months and it's been an immeasurable gift to my life!
Catholicism is everything I've been looking for and more. Christ and his Church are truly the 'fulfillment of all desire'!
Welcome home! 😊❤
❤❤❤Welcome Home! May Our Lady bless you on your journey with abundant graces.
Praise God 🙏
Congratulations! Welcome to the fullness of Christianity!
Welcome!
That was the best expression of the Beatitudes I've ever heard. Brilliant!
Agreed!
Bishop Baron has such a calming and kind voice.
Jordan, you're not going to be disappointed in old age watching the young men you've mentored save the west. We promise
You dear sweet courageous young man.
Only by God's grace.
Amen to that!
So true brother I’m in London Ontario Canada and plan on doing my part in saving our civilization. ❤️🇺🇸🇨🇦🙏🏻
Just remember, it all starts by setting our home in order. God bless y'all
I’ve got a feeling I’m about to clean my room so hard.
Mines already clean! I'm starting on the living room now!! Let's goooooooo!!!
It's too hard. I think I'll just take a nap.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@TheAnbyrley same
You best not be lying😂
These conversations have brought me back to my faith. Thank you, Dr. Peterson and Bishop Barron.
I’m not Catholic but I love listening to Bishop Barrón.
My name is Matt and I'm an alcoholic/addict. In recovery. On going process. Today I celebrate 7 years of sobriety. It can be done. If can do it you can too!
Congrats! Fellow ex-drunk over here. Glory to God for all things!
@@triscat I think alcohol is the ideal sacrifice. I did really love to drink. And life has gotten better 10 fold.
@@mattjames9174 Same. To life!
Well done, brother! 😂
"It works if you work it, so work it, you're worth it" Slogan of my hubby's home group. Proud wife of a friend of Bill W. he is 22 years sober. K.I.S.S - Keep It Simple Stupid - that's their other big one LOL Congrats
I’m a simple Catholic man: I see JP and BB and I click ASAP.
Likewise, instant click, instant like.
That rhymed
Amen
@@gadsbyNot if you say "ay-sap", like me.
Bishop Barron was instrumental in my conversion from hardcore agnostic to hardcore practicing Catholic. God bless you your excellency and thank you for the incredible evangelization work you do.
@flyinggospel
Personal question if you want to answer. Did you have a deist stage before converting to Catholicism? Thanks
@@caylonwells839 I'm not him, but I want to note something interesting worth pointing out.
Pretty much everyone these days is a deist. Non-practicing Christians believe in a deist God, those of "no-religion" yet "spiritual" assume a deist God, even some of those who do go to church every Sunday have deist beliefs.
Very interesting. Deism doesn't survive as an intellectual position for long these days, but it's so incredibly pervasive in American society it's almost suspicious.
@@crusaderACR yes. “I’m spiritual”! What does that even mean? Which spirit??
Dig deeper Baron is fraud on many tenants of faith 😞
If I return to Christianity, it will be either as a Catholic or an Eastern Orthodox. My biggest hang-ups are eternal, inescapable Hell (and the fact that Ben Shapiro and a lot of really chill people are going there) and predestination to that fate.
And from what I've heard the latter is considered a heresy by both denominations.
How can anyone be pessimistic for the future when millions of people around the world can hear these two genius torch bearers of truth deliver such profound yet relatable and life changing actionable wisdom for FREE while washing the dishes? The Word will not be defeated!
I’ve been thinking the same, Kevin. I can see the effect of this God wisdom sharing on me, and feel hopeful that this is happening to many more people. Future is bright ❤ 🕊️
@brendamyc3173 I think I get what you mean. Can you give an example?
Really true. 🙏👑👍 Moral quality served with luxury💎 while you wash the dishes!!!🙂🍳 the 21st century has finally arrived!!! 😎
@brendamyc3173 What are you talking about?
@@franciscodanielserranodiaz8773 it's also happening for me. Amen
I'm protestant, but I respect Catholics and their faith. We are all united under Christ and may we all grow spiritually.
May i ask what made you choose to be apart of Protestantism?
@@TheologyOPENStheLids If I had to wager a guess, it's simply the branch they were raised in. Just because most people aren't converts.
@@berwynsigns4115 i mean its possible but i hope not
Amen. We Catholic and Protestant need to unite and stand against atheism through theology and philosophy 😊
Amen
Peterson’s largest contribution to the world shall be remembered as re-introducing the West to a language it had lost, a language to believe in God.
I agree. But there are others who have done greatly important work before and during him.
well said
@@Person4649Personyes but very few if any who have done so with the same popularity and reach, coupled with the same explicit intention of exposing how detailed and rich the Christian typography is.
Jordan Peterson and bishop Barron. THE best duo. VERY excited to watch it.
Immensely important discussion and most inspiring.
Thank you both for this illuminating discussion. As someone who hasn't been able to conceive of myself as an atheist for quite some time, but struggles with some questions and doubts towards embracing Christianity, I really found some answers in this discussion that I was wrestling with and that helped to illuminate my path a few steps further ahead.
Jesus changed my life, so did Dr. Peterson
One of the greatest thinkers we've ever heard.
Orthodox here. The highest respect for JP & Bishop Barron. God bless!
@brendamyc3173 bro what are you talking about
Transitioning prot to ortho, finding the catho guy lovely. Praise Jesus!
Bless you Brother Ortho
Christ is risen ☦️🙏🏾
Bishop Barron helped me revert when I caught his Catholicism series on PBS circa 2013. Praise Jesus!!
Revert from where? Do you know the history of Christianity?
@@bag2963 Catholicism
@@bag2963I was raised Catholic, fell away, and found my faith again bc of Bishop Barron
@@TraditionalHippie No, I meant in a sense of Descartes, did you reconsider it? Did you actually look? Regarding the Great Schism, the the Orthodox Christianity. I don't know Bishop Barron, but if you are truly looking, I'd suggest to look into Father Seraphim Rose's life, boos, lectures.
@@TraditionalHippie Are my comments being deleted?
"Your being increases to the measure you give it away." - Brilliant
Man, I have a burning desire to.clean my room and repair the relationship with my Dad.
TheHelper - Do it, friend!!
Go for it!
A clean conscience is the best peace.
Do it, while you still can. Tomorrow is promised to nobody.
TheHelper - Grin..... so far it's 100% for your comment.
1:07:23 preach Bishop preach!! This hits deep!! It’s so profound! 🔥 🔥🙌
I'm only half-way through this and it's probably the most relevant conversation to my life that I've ever heard. And I've heard a lot. I bet I listen to this innumerable times over the rest of my life.
Please pray for my 25 yo son. Thank you Dr. Peterson and I really appreciate your touring in America. Your live show was wonderful.
🙏
I'm praying for your Son. I'm a 23 year old man, perhaps I'll have the opportunity to share in Christ with him
God bless him & bring him back home & strengthen our faith all 🙏🏿
What's wrong with your son?
@Atreus21 nothing is "wrong " with my son. He's struggling and I want prayers for him.
When seeing this, I literally said out loud, “YES”!!
As a Catholic, two men I love and respect!!
@@MichaelBrown-me3bh I would sincerely recommend not trying to be edgy, you come across as bitter
Now Michael, that's a rather sweeping assertion.
@@MichaelBrown-me3bh hey man, you're the one attempting to be negative.
It reflects badly on you, not the one you're attacking, so keep on with that if you want to
So many angry miserable people crawl out of the woodwork when theres a religious guest. I guess misery loves company.
@@MichaelBrown-me3bh you're miserable and you're lashing out at others because misery loves company 🙏🏻
I feel like I need to rewatch this with a pen and paper.
I'm going to start doing the same, jokes aside 😂
I'm on my second viewing.
@@loreman7267 this is probably the 4th time I've watched this video
This feels like we are on the verge of a very important moment in human history.
Here's hoping that you are right. I sense, especially following Tammy Peterson joining the Catholic faith at an Easter Vigil Mass last Saturday, that Jordan is trying to figure out how he can most responsibly and best serve his huge audience by including them on his journey down that same path.
Wow, I feel like I should get college credit after listening to this. Or brain weight lifting workout.
So thankful for the unpacking of Truth by these 2❤
This is one of the most profound and enlightening conversations I've ever had the privilege of listening to.
Hey man. Random ask, please help a brother pay rent. God bless.
@@Lerian_V I'll pray for you.
Ooooo this looks good! Also, I have recently converted to Catholicism after many years of studying theology in a Protestant university and church hopping different denominations.
Praise God! Converts are such a gift to the Church!
I find it strange that people identify themselves by their denomination instead of simply being a follower of Christ according to the Bible.
@soundscapeproductions9173 It's more complicated than that, tho. Different denominations have variations of beliefs and traditions. Some contrary to others. Based upon their own interpretation of scripture
@@soundscapeproductions9173 Us Catholics think it's strange why all Christians don't just follow the Church that Jesus founded. Why do people have to make up their own denominations? 😅
Welcome home!
MIND BLOWN! I need to study the bible with people like this!
Amen!!! Me too!
Amen!
Watch Bishop Barron's, Word on Fire videos, even if you start with the shorts, you may find yourself being Red pilled, it's a given. Good luck 😁
May I recommend starting with Genesis
Chapter 1
Verse 2
@@toolboxtidbits5674 why skip verse 1?
These 2 men are responsible for my return to the Catholic church
Through conversations like this, I pray that Jordan will be drawn ever closer to the Lord.
Brilliant conversation that needs shared everywhere. I could listen to Dr. Jordan and Bishop Barron talk for hours.
I love how you can tell neither of them are cruising through it. Both are keenly aware of each point. No statement taken for granted.
And how amazing the mental and emotional connection. So very special. I wish I had a human I could share ideas with like these wonderful, wise, mindful humans. God Bless you and thank you for sharing your passion fo and love of God and faith.
I thought Jordan should have let Bishop Barron talk more. He made it mostly about himself.
These two Men are Box Office when they get together and talk about Faith and God and The Holy Bible. The World needs these Men conversing on every possible platform. It’s jaw dropping. May God bless them both and continue to light their paths so they can illuminate Him for the World to see in all His Glory.
What a time to be alive, to have access to great minds and greater concepts for free. Cometh the hour, cometh the men.
On fire but not consumed...
THAT is a "living" sacrifice❤
So much good information. I am definently watching everything from Mr. Jordan Peterson that I can get my hands on.
Why aren’t we taught what Bishop Barron beautifully explains about the Catholic tradition on the concept of God and how to follow the true path to living? Why has it got to be Jordan Peterson to eke out his Eminence’s explanations? It’s so sad that as a 55 year old having lived all my life immersed in Catholicism I finally get the answers to a million metaphysical questions on TH-cam rather than at church. Bishop Barron life would be much easier especially for the younger generations if these teachings are included in the doctrine of faith. Thank you Jordan Peterson. You are a shining light in a darkened world. A prophet in our midst. Don’t stop telling the truth and quickening brilliant minds and souls to share and teach path to the highest possible good. You and your family are in our prayers. God bless you and keep you strong.
I agree! GOOD question!
At least, you are blessed to get the true message. Remember that the God of Israel is a God of many chances.... it's never too late
Bishop Barron addressed this point in the Member Exclusive. Also if you watch Word on Fire he has been agreeing with you for a decade at least. God bless.
Thanks Prof J
Church speaks on the readings during the mass. These discussions happen in groups, books, ETC. Two different required scenarios given the event.
Also consider the audience needs.
There's no excuse, the Church offers different levels of teaching if you wish, each area has its importance. Mass vs entry faith books vs advanced teachings. It's all available to the person wishing to learn
This conversation is peak. Can almost move you to tears.
It has before, my friend 💗🕊💗
Jesus is surely shining through at these times. As close I could get to living 2000 years ago.
I agree, seems like in a way a second coming of Christ.
Not that Peterson is Christ, there is only 1 Jesus of Nazareth, But the spirit of Christ, being embodied, especially in such a dark time as this, Peterson serves a light to the word of God no doubt
We know that Jesus is the word, and the word was made flesh and dwelt among us
Jesus said, Abraham rejoiced to see my day, he saw it and was glad
How did he see Christ?
Christ is the word, the word manifest in the flesh, through faith
Before Abraham was I AM
He was the word that came to Abraham and was manifest in Isaac
The same word manifest to the countless multitudes throughout time, through faith ( search the scriptures, in them you think you have eternal life John 5:39 )
Without faith it is impossible to please God
We can't even see or know God except through faith, by faith we see him and know him
When Christ came 2000 years ago, the church and state were at the peak of corruption, seems a lot like it is now
You hypocrites, how is that you can discern the face of the sky but not discern these times? Luke 12:26
Great comment !!, I feel my heart aligns with Jesus heart every time I listen to Bishop Barron, he has that effect on me.
This singular conversation is an endless treasurery of insight; thanks to all involved.
As for somebody who never grew up in the church and always had a belief, I have always believed that this is real church. The father is smiling upon yall Keep up the good work.
These two seem to be speaking with each other on exactly the same wave-length. Wonderful and insightful conversation.
JP & BB tandems so well like PB&J, excellent blend !
@@EffySalcedoor BB&J
The Catholic notion of the necessity of the union of faith and reason.
I've wrestled with many topics covered in this video. I have much work to do, but was happy to here solutions to those questions. I haven't been involved in religion in over 40 years. My son recently asked why that was, I've always talked about God, serving something greater than yourself etc but wanted to know why we didn't attend Church. I did my best to explain, but have always said we all walk with God a little different from one another. He is now involved in the Catholic Church, and I see that walking with God is the only solution to the social condition we are in. I greatly appreciate the work that's going on to support Christians and provide language that makes sense to all who will take some time to listen, and think about the discussion rather than regurgitate a bullet point narrative. Thank you very much!
🙏 I seriously HOPE & PRAY that Bishop Barron one day becomes Pope....and then a Saint 🙏
Please God 🙏
This is my prayer as well.
Two of the greatest religious/philosophical thinkers of our time. They go over my head sometimes and I have to rewind, but I usually get the message in the end.
My head hurts, but my heart says yes. Tried to pick up what I can from these 2 brilliant men. I love listening to the Bishop and I'm not even Catholic! God bless you both.
Great talk. JBP got me interested in christianity again. BB got me (back) into catholicism. Im currently reading the (word on fire) gospels. Its a work of art. Love it. Thanks!
Let us pray for Jordan Peterson that he will be restored to health and be released from the chronic pain he is enduring.Amen.Bless Bishop Baron big time Amen.✝✝✝🛐
I love reading the comments on Jordan Peterson's videos almost as much as listening to the discourse itself.
In my early life I had always vastly underestimated the wisdom and knowledge of priests. Now I just shake my head at what I learn from them when I open up my damn ears.
This was incredible! Thank you, Jordan Peterson and Bishop Barron, for your enlightening conversation.
Barron is being masterful here in many areas with Peterson. Rather than correcting Peterson's bad theology on MANY points and his importing of ideas onto the biblical texts he just ignores them and comments on points of agreement with real theology and expands what Christianity actually teaches
There are a number of thinkers today rooting for Peterson to become a Christian and this is a masterful attempt at it.
Totally Agree with you. Peterson is off when it comes to Jesus.
Every time Peterson has an epiphany through psychology, Barron is like “Duh. What do you think we’ve been doing over here the last 3000 years?”
Yeah. I've also been in the loop. Instead of trying reinevent the wheel I'm learning about what was done previously through the traditions preserved and taught by the church.
How is that different from pretention?
@@FreeMan201212 because he wasn’t trying to impress Peterson. Looked like he was actually trying to be charitable in hiding it. But he couldn’t.
You are correct. The deposit-of-faith is passed down. Some might not agree that faith is passed down, but they think it's discovered by individual.
I think what is important is to notice when your brain says "That's right" and take a step back to analyze why you agree with the statement on such a deep level. Your paraphrasing vs what Barron actually said is a good starting point, because how you phrase statements gives light into how you think about a subject.
Excellent, this is the positive side of what the internet can serve up.
Thank you both
The Clip of Bishop Barron's comment at the beginning about the linkage between Jesus and Job immediately caught my attention. I haven't listened to the entire episode, but have saved it for later, so it may be "old news" for others. But one of the first things said about Jesus at His birth was that He was wrapped in swaddling clothes. One of the last things said about Him was that He was stripped before being hung on the cross. I've been aware of those to passages for years, but only recently did they bring to mind Job's acquiescence to his circumstances “Naked I came from my mother’s womb, And naked I shall return there. The Lord gave and the Lord has taken away. Blessed be the name of the Lord.” Job 1:21
God bless Jordan and may many more people foow the path of Christ and emulate Jordans example in serving God in the World!
Im Orthodox but I enjoyed this ❤️☦️
Same here brother!
Welcome, adelphoi! 😀
We are brothers in Christ. God Bless you!
@@andresfelipesuccar5179 you too Brother ☦️
When JP gets filled with the Holy Spirit he will see the picture more clearly. This will enable him to put the puzzle pieces together with a heavenly perspective that will enlighten that amazing God given brain.
If he doesn’t speak by the inspiration of the Spirit than how can he say all that he says?
Noone can truly say whether or not someone else has been filled with the Holy Spirit. Although, it seems to me that if JP had accepted Jesus, he would be saying certain things just slightly different. But to answer the question, even the devil knows the word of God.
Neolawyer - If I can speak the same words I have heard agnostics and atheists say and if I was assigned to be one of these protagonists to the Christian faith & doctrine, I can and have done it. My heart was not in it as my heart belongs to the Holy Spirit, 1 member of the Triune God.
Peterson, to my knowledge is not a Christian, but he is smart enough to be able to analyze Christianity and speak about it. I hope one day his heart will be in it.... because he finally gives in to the God of our world and becomes His.
(Looking at Peterson's body language as he listens to the bishop's words, I would guess he is still not God's.)
@@BlueandWrightGood analysis, friend. Peterson has been fighting a battle with God over some time. I hope he finally gives to God's Headship and leaves his human ego behind one day..... for his eternal sake.
Hmm, interestingly enough Paul the apostle clearly states in Acts 2:17 “And it shall be in the last days, saith God, I will pour forth of my Spirit upon all flesh: And your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, And your young men shall see visions, And your old men shall dream dreams”
Jordan Peterson and Bishop Barron is always dynamite!
Glad this had a part 2. I'm absolutely blown by the part 1. Bishops understanding of metaphysics and systematic theology is insane.
This is such an enriching conversation. I feel I had to pause at many points just to think through the ideas that are being discussed.
Just when one thinks that a conversation between Dr Peterson and Bishop Barron has reached a summit, there is an other episode that blows one's mind. Sincere thanks to both for sharing your incredible knowledge and insights.
i see society going through an awakening these days...there is a true desire to be in touch with something deeper amidst the chaos
When God is the common denominator between a psychologist/ therapist and a Bishop the take away is just AWESOME 💯💯💯💯💯🙏🙌
Love your show and the advertisements so supportive of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ thank you so so so much!
Two of my fav Mentors Right here.
I Loved The Interview with Tammy and Bishop Baron and It really is a miracle what she has overcome Jordan.
Delighted she is doing The RCIA and getting here guidance from the catholic church.
Holy moly. This was one of the deepest, meaningful JBP episodes I've listened to.
Pope Benedict said that grace - (love of God) we recieve from God and the more we give it away the more it multiples in the spiritual life. "It is in giving we recieve" easy to talk about but hard in real life .. 🙏
I love listening to these. Two amazing men!! God bless you Jordan Peterson for being courageous enough to seek truth, which I am certain you will find.
Only God can translate what I am thinking and feeling at this ... Thank you❤
JBP and BRB playing! More please! 🙏
Electrifying, every single word. I feel strengthened, inspired and focussed. My faith has gained sharper contours. Amazing that this is available at no cost .. 😊
I am ortodox but i love Bishop 🌹
God Bless! I am a Catholic. And I dont know where you stand on the schism but I hope our leaders can reconcile. But I understand if you dont see it that way. Anyways best to you(:
Orthodox here, as well. I also have a great deal of respect for Barron.
Me too
I think after dabbling in both, what we need is something like the Catholic faith but in the middle ages. That seemed to be the ideal in terms of traditional theology and bearing the most fruits.
You shouldn't like him. He wouldn't even say to Ben Shapiro that Jesus Christ is the only way to salvation. He's a shame to the Faith.
I'm not a catholic, but that's a man filled with the spirit and fire of god
Could this be the best conversation I have ever heard? Cleaning my garden room office floor on Passion Sunday in Lent, I have here expounded to me the precepts I have been reading about in Psalm 119, the very foundations of how to live life righteously. That’s a word that never gets used in our culture. Thankyou and may God bless you both - you are gifts to humanity.
I agree!
Mind blown. These two have taken Christianity to a new level. The Bible is never exhausted. Thank you!❤
Bishop Barron and Jordan you just gave “the Sermon” of a life time! My whole life with Jesus just shook me to the core, how unbelievable it is that I have the blessed fortune of my Catholic faith and your spiritual guidance. 🙏🏻 AMEN 🙏🏻
Jordan don't forget to allow the bishop to speak more often. Much love for both of you.
"A Revival" for "we who wrestle with God..Hallelujah=⚡️💥✨️💡 Salute to Jordan Peterson and Bishop Baron
These two men together are a charm. Bishop Barron demonstrates a healthy mature Catholic intellect. Detaching from the current pope's thoughts as well as traditionalist, he offers an impressive scholarly mind.
In what way is he detaching from the pope’s thoughts?
Thanks!
Blessed is Doctor Peterson when he allows his guest to speak uninterrupted.😄
At what minute mark does that happen? 😢
@@matthewsalkeld5326 Not this video that I noticed. He occasionally catches himself. He is aware of it, even having said that his family has pointed it out. It's annoying, but I offer the grace to see it as I would an excited little boy telling me all about his treasures and adventures.
@@maytt675something I noticed as well, but I agree with you that it's excitement and a willingness to continue to dialogue (play to use his language) rather than malicious. I struggle with the same thing in deep conversation with others at times, so it's a good reminder to see it in others and work on it.
I’ve never seen that happen
@@mattbernacki9282it’s ego.
Outstanding and remarkable conversation with Bishop Barron! 💯 Your conversation moved me to joyful tears! 🕊 God bless you! 💯✝️🕊🙏❤️
I love you God, thank you for allowing human creation. Ive found you. I've broken the spell on man kind. Thank you heavenly father for letting me be apart of this!!!
Keep watching 😉🫂
I could listen to Bishop Barron discuss Biblical theology all day. He has a way of cutting through the BS for me and revealing the philosophical within the spiritual, or vice versa, whichever the situation calls for. It's really a Masterclass in the sublime, revealing the deeper meanings within the bible and it's charachters and archetypes, drawing a line between them and our own lives. I get the enrichment of his pearls of wisdom every single time i hear him speak. And i know it impacts me instantly, because my pride submits and my humility steps out of the shadows.
I'm just so, so thankful to live in a time when i get to hear him speak, across the globe, listening from the palm of my hand. His words just resonate and cut straight through my own personal folly, aligning my heart to Gods heart. Epiphany after epiphany, land, hit and change my thoughts and actions in ways that would take me months, years, who knows how long to do without them ?
Thank you God, for working through the Bishop as you do. Thankyou Jordan for allowing this wonderful synergy of your minds to come together again, and thank you BB. You truly are one in a million, a gift from God to those that have ears, and i appreciate you far beyond my ability to express in words, how profoundly you have impacted my life. God bless ❤
Bishop Barron’s Catholicism series is gold. A must watch ❤
i think listening to these two legendary men is peak life.
Oh this will be soul nourishing! I’ve been listening to so much Bishop Barron and Jonathan Pageau lately, filling in the embarrassing gaps my fundamentalist upbringing left me with, gaps in the knowledge of the church fathers and church history church story and the liturgy and iconography. This will be a feast of reason and flow of soul.
Speaking of story, I wove a coherent essay out of my insights connecting Dr. Peterson’s Great Schema suit jacket and the legend of St. Christopher, patron Saint of travelers and whom Jonathan calls “God’s Dog.” Entitled “A Suit, A Schema, and a Saint,” it will be out from Wrong Speak Publishing next week.
And finally, dearest Dr. Peterson, I was thinking about seeing you soon on the “we who wrestle with God” tour, and I thought of Jacob saying to the angel, “I will not let thee go until thou bless me.”
God bless you, dearest Dr. Peterson, and keep you under the shadow of His wings.
With Ruth Anne’s love ❤
I challenge anyone who's never tried to pray the rosary for a week. Meditation, contemplation, story telling, new perspectives, etc, it has all that and more. Apply all the mysteries to your life and put yourself in the shoes of everyone present in those stories.
Why should people pray to Mary? Jesus is our intercessor and Savior, the only way to God and he's sent his Holy Spirit. Certainly asking fellow believers to pray for us without worshipping them or elevating them above God who created them is not objectionable, but there is clearly a difference between believers who are in the world but not of it and those who have gone to glory. When Saul has the witch of Endor call Samuel up, he asks why Saul has disturbed him.
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@@heatherd4492
Why should you ask your brother or sister in Christ to pray for you?
If you pay attention to the words of the prayer, that is all we're doing in the Hail Mary "Pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death"
Nobody likens her to God.
To your other point, that is not a very good comparison. Saul specifically had witchcraft done in an attempt to have mastery over what God alone has mastery over. He tried to communicate with the dead for his own personal gain (or so he thought).
Beyond that, doesn't it just make sense to ask the saints and Mary for prayer? They are closer to God than we, and Jesus Himself has shown that He listens to Mary, even though it was not yet His time. He loves His mom, and so do we!
Jesus said "Behold your mother" @@frank2453
@@frank2453I actually don't ask friends and family to pray for me. We never see Jesus doing that, nor do we once see him instructing his Twelve to ask people to pray for them.
Praying _with_ others to the Father is good. But asking others to pray to God _for_ you is a Roman thing to do: it gained precedent among all Christians by virtue of the founder of the RCC, ie its first first full time Pastor.
A conversation between Jordan Peterson and Bishop Baron? This is epic!
This is one of the most enriching and beautiful, and inspiring conversations I've heard to date,by two great charitable and humble geniuses.i highly recommend a listen.
Thanks, beautiful to understand. Thanks to GOD to both of you.🙏💕🙏
Love Fr Robert Barron!!
I could listen to these 2 men forever!!!
What a conversation! Just wow 🙌 Christ is risen indeed 🙏
I wish all men dressed as sharp as Dr. Peterson. It says a lot about a man. 💯
His dressing is an expression of the internal state of his mind.
Not true, a lot of men can’t afford suits but that doesn’t make them any less of a man, I mean did Jesus and his disciples wear suits ?🤔🧠🤯
@@BlessXNinja It’s my understanding that mens’ suits didn’t originate until the 1800’s. That being said, I would imagine that back in Jesus’ time they did the best they could with what was available to them. That was the focus of my comment - it says a lot about a man (& a woman, too) when they take care of the sartorial items they have & use them to look the best they possibly can. The attention to detail - whether it’s a well-kept inexpensive white tee & blue jeans or a high-dollar 3-piece with tie tack & cuff links - clearly displays a person’s state of mind & the pride & care they take of their appearance.
Dressing well isn’t a matter of one’s financial state, although I’m sure a lot of people could afford to dress better if they’d better prioritize what they choose to spend their money on, a lot of people spend their money foolishly. In my eyes, dressing well is taking good care of the clothing items you have & paying attention to detail in being well groomed. Simply my thoughts!
@@BlessXNinjaI'd be curious to see her "requirements" if she is in dating apps.
@@wendellbabin6457 No “if”, she doesn’t do dating apps.
A kind, true heart & integrity are the most attractive things of all, in anyone.
Never have I said clothing make the person - I merely appreciate seeing people take pride in their appearance, a nice tee/blue jean combo is awesome, all day long.
The less you are self conscious, the more you walk with God. Perfect
Yes, because the less you are withdrawn into yourself in pride. The more selfless love is able to be given.
Robert Barrons book Catholicism is incredible. This was a great talk. ❤