The call aside - it takes massive balls to bounce back from something so negative - especially when we are talking about possibly the most grueling race in all of swimming. Congratulations Owen!
@PatrikStålberg4389 Call it what you want. Toughness; fortitude; the ability to put a devastating blow behind you and move on and continue to give 100% and eventually succeed.
@@wolverineiscool7161 He came 5th in the nation? I can't think of anything I did in college that only 4 other college students in my time could do better. That's about 4 in 19 million. Or 0.00002%.
@@peanutbutterygoodness8455he had his number 1 victory taken away from him. You think that winning number 5 lives up to that? Nothing beats being the number 1 in the nation. Come on man😂🤦♂️
@@stuntm7n 1st place in the Atlantic Coast Conference is NOT 1st in the nation. It only comprises 16 institutions. 5th place in the National Collegiate Athletic Association IS 5th in the nation. It is comprised of 1,066 institutions (of which 357 are in the same division as the ACC). Hope this helps.
I'm not even into swimming and this dudes story got to me. Props to his team mate for sticking up for him. Props to the ncaa for still letting him swim for the championship.
"Props to the ncaa for still letting him swim for the championship" - They didn't "let" him swim, he'd already qualified in a previous race. The officials in his controversial DQ race made a strict ruling that was obviously very disappointing, but in high-level competition athletes are required to know the rules and officials to enforce them. To the athlete's great credit, he put the disappointment of his mistake behind him and went on to give a sterling performance in his next race. That's a perfect scenario all-around, in my opinion.
I remember at a track meet in high-school my friend forgot his jersey so I let him use mine to throw(shotput) and the ref disqualified me because I took my jersey off to help out my friend. Some rules are silly but it about how you bounce back great stuff!
So taking your jersey off to help a friend or celebrating before the race is over will disqualify you but it's totally OK to let a guy compete in women's swim meets. Uh OK, got it! NCAA has lost the plot.
You can feel the rules are made by people that have nothing to do with sports. They are made by people envious of someone that can do what they can't do.
@@elfin1358 Your ignorance is very loud, no heterosexual men are allowed to compete in women's swim meets. A quick google search will show you the NCAA rules. A trans male (FTM) student-‐athlete who is not taking testosterone related to gender transition may participate on a men's or women's team. A trans female (MTF) transgender student-‐athlete who is not taking hormone treatments related to gender transition may not compete on a women's team.
@-VenyX- not as much fun as guy who makes unoriginal comments like yours and then likes it lol whats wrong with thinking someone shouldn't be fired for doing their Job correctly? The refs don't make the rules.
That's so sad and wrong. I can understand if he went into a lane with someone still swimming in it. But he didn't. Sounds like they need to make the rule be do not celebrate anything until the whole race is over. This is heartbreaking to not be 1st with a record swim Owen had. Not just a personal best but all-time record. I swam more for fun. Then I was pressured by the coach who was my PE teacher. She knew about my swimming history at a different school. When you're a fingertip away, in practice of matching your teammate (6"6') and yells at you (5"4') in front of everyone, that I did whatever a second too slow, it just ruins it for you.
This happened to me and I’m only 12 but for a different reason and the officials were super chill About it, I was in prelims for my 50 breast (summer swim) and I was super scared so on the block I was shaking my hands bc I was nervous and after the race the official went up to me and told me what happened but said they would not dq me bc they k ow how it feels to be scared like that but they have me a warning and said on finals they are going to watch me very carefully I get 4th overall which isn’t the greatest but a lot better than getting dqed
This tradition dates back all the way to ancient Mesopotamia, when college students back then had to also be part time minors in order to afford their education; the symbol of the diamond embodies the spirit of a Mesopotamian Diver. Fast, strong, invincible, and yet somehow, human.
@@karlmckinnell2635 "Interference" is a judgement call in swimming: "Any competitor who interferes with another swimmer during a race shall be disqualified from that race, subject to the discretion of the referee." - Article 1.a of NCAA rules As an active NCAA swimmer, who has been in the sport 15 years, this is the first time I've seen this sort of ruling. Crossing lanes/splashing is super common during celebrations once the people next to you are done. So even though it is at the officials discretion, it was definitely a power trip
A questão que importa é: Ele tinha conhecimento dessa regra? Isso havia sido bem esclarecido para todos os competidores antes da disputa? Se o nadador não foi informado com clareza antes, então precisa ser recompensado pela legítima vitória. Por outro lado, se ele sabia exatamente do que se tratava então mereceu ter a vitória impugnada.
Lmao showing my lurking and maybe my age but: A) It got more attention to dq him and the situation attracted non-swimmers B) Something about the kinda nice part of the internet that we collectively rally for this guy but sad we can't realize these struggles in the guy next to us at the gas station 3) This style of vid harkens back to earlier TH-cam My 2¢
I agree with point A and B but point 3 was WAY too controversial for me! By the way, consistency much? It seems you've labelled your paragraphs A B ..................... and 3. wth!!!
there comes a time where you just have to ask "who does enforcing this rule benefit?" in this case, it benefitted no one. nobody gained from this except for the power-tripping referees
He didn't mess up anything. The rules are written too vague without the intent explicitly stated and a referee used that loophole to lash out on him. The rules exist to prevent those from interfering with swimmers. He has ever done that.
I was initially flabbergasted that you can't figure out the difference between fifth best in the nation and dead last but then I saw the username and everything made sense.
My stars….if the rule is no lane crossing whilst others competitors are still swimming, then, despite the heartbreak for Owen, disqualifying him was just. He should have remained in his lane. I’m willing to bet he won’t ever repeat the violation. ❤️🐈
So any rule or law is automatically ‘just’? Because I call bs on that, I can think of quite a few laws and rules throughout the ages that were unjust, this is clearly one of them….it should only be enforced if it interferes with an active swimmer
He had already won and was celebrating with his friend, who had already finished the race, so he wasn’t interfering with any other swimmers. Maybe learn the rules first, and you don’t be an idiot
@@captainb.mccrea5480Owen Lloyd was disqualified for crossing into another swimmer’s lane during competition, with a handful of swimmers still finishing their 66 laps during the winner’s celebration those are the written rules just because he finished is irrelevant maybe actually read the rulebook before calling people out 🤡
@@ladyfreedownload We can argue about whether the rule is fair, but ultimately the rule is clear and every swimmer knows the rule and they applied the rule correctly
Hey Bonnenature. Question for you: when was the last time you dragged your sorry b*tt off the couch and into a swimming pool??? Swimming actually takes an incredible amount of strength, and after even as little as 10 minutes in the pool the average person is subject to lightheadedness, vomiting, fainting, fatigue, and much worse.. I love your profile pic tho.
At some point we as a society lost track of the fact that one of the reasons we teach our children about sports is to teach them discipline and how to control their emotions. It isn't supposed to be about winning, or entertaining the masses. Not until you get to the pro level, anyway. That's just the bonus you get if you happen to be the best performer on any given day. He was so excited and proud that he won that he lost control of his emotions, forgot the damn rules, and acted in an undisciplined manner. The shame of his being dq'ed from that other race is not that it was a bad call, it wasn't. It's that the ref had to teach him a lesson his coaches should have drilled into him from the beginning. STAY IN YOUR LANE.
It is a bad call, because he didn't interfere with any other swimmer. The lane he fell into was his teammate's who was already done. If he'd fallen into an active lane, then fine, but it's still a bullshit call. He didn't forget the rules. He straddled the lane line like so many do, slipped, and fell the wrong way. If he falls back into his own lane, he gets the win he deserved.
H2O more like H2No, you are wrong. Owen is great and can swam much better then you. In fact, if a shark were in a pool with you and Owen, it would simply have to wait for you to drown before picking you off. BUT Owen would save you because he is a bigger person. Thanks owen heart emoji.
The call aside - it takes massive balls to bounce back from something so negative - especially when we are talking about possibly the most grueling race in all of swimming. Congratulations Owen!
Massive balls? To swim? You must live a privileged life🥺
@PatrikStålberg4389 Call it what you want. Toughness; fortitude; the ability to put a devastating blow behind you and move on and continue to give 100% and eventually succeed.
Because only men have courage ? You need balls to be resilient do you ? Wtf.
Or do you mean eyeballs? Fortitude is uncharacteristic of the blind ?
@@miker6516 Its a very old figure of speech, mike. Deal with it.
@@calvin394 you can say the same thing about basketball or football. he not even talking about the balls to about how he came back from that
Just saw the previous video and was extremely anguished. I feel fine now XD
Same. But maybe not same emotions
because he came in 5th?
@@wolverineiscool7161 He came 5th in the nation?
I can't think of anything I did in college that only 4 other college students in my time could do better. That's about 4 in 19 million. Or 0.00002%.
@@peanutbutterygoodness8455he had his number 1 victory taken away from him. You think that winning number 5 lives up to that? Nothing beats being the number 1 in the nation. Come on man😂🤦♂️
@@stuntm7n 1st place in the Atlantic Coast Conference is NOT 1st in the nation. It only comprises 16 institutions.
5th place in the National Collegiate Athletic Association IS 5th in the nation. It is comprised of 1,066 institutions (of which 357 are in the same division as the ACC).
Hope this helps.
I'm not even into swimming and this dudes story got to me. Props to his team mate for sticking up for him. Props to the ncaa for still letting him swim for the championship.
I love swimming.
"Props to the ncaa for still letting him swim for the championship" - They didn't "let" him swim, he'd already qualified in a previous race. The officials in his controversial DQ race made a strict ruling that was obviously very disappointing, but in high-level competition athletes are required to know the rules and officials to enforce them. To the athlete's great credit, he put the disappointment of his mistake behind him and went on to give a sterling performance in his next race. That's a perfect scenario all-around, in my opinion.
He got fifth in Nationals!
Pretty good
He DID?!?!?!?!? Cite sources please
@@levnewton3742 😄
@levnewton3742 loser it states it in video 😂read.
Isn't that the whole point of the video?
I remember at a track meet in high-school my friend forgot his jersey so I let him use mine to throw(shotput) and the ref disqualified me because I took my jersey off to help out my friend. Some rules are silly but it about how you bounce back great stuff!
So taking your jersey off to help a friend or celebrating before the race is over will disqualify you but it's totally OK to let a guy compete in women's swim meets. Uh OK, got it! NCAA has lost the plot.
You can feel the rules are made by people that have nothing to do with sports. They are made by people envious of someone that can do what they can't do.
@@elfin1358 Your ignorance is very loud, no heterosexual men are allowed to compete in women's swim meets. A quick google search will show you the NCAA rules. A trans male (FTM) student-‐athlete who is not taking testosterone related to gender transition may participate on a men's or women's team. A trans female (MTF) transgender student-‐athlete who is not taking hormone treatments related to gender transition may not compete on a women's team.
@@elfin1358that doesn’t happen, psycho.
NCAA judges need to be fired.
Why? For following the rules? Lol
Yeah. It was a huge mismanagement of rules.
I'm glad Owen won!
@@sixtyninelol You sound great fun at parties.
@-VenyX- not as much fun as guy who makes unoriginal comments like yours and then likes it lol whats wrong with thinking someone shouldn't be fired for doing their Job correctly? The refs don't make the rules.
@@-VenyX- Ignore that guy. He is a troll. 😂
I bet him doing so well at nationals pissed off the judge from the disqualifying round.
he won, and the old crook was jealous of his well earned joy
Would he have won with the time he set during his DQ meet?
No, but he would've placed top 3 with the time that got nulled from the DQ
But he still doesnt get his ACC title which he earned.
That's so sad and wrong. I can understand if he went into a lane with someone still swimming in it. But he didn't. Sounds like they need to make the rule be do not celebrate anything until the whole race is over.
This is heartbreaking to not be 1st with a record swim Owen had. Not just a personal best but all-time record.
I swam more for fun. Then I was pressured by the coach who was my PE teacher. She knew about my swimming history at a different school. When you're a fingertip away, in practice of matching your teammate (6"6') and yells at you (5"4') in front of everyone, that I did whatever a second too slow, it just ruins it for you.
I agree, but be careful, some miserable person from the last video might see this and reply with “nAh, hE diDnt earn thAt”
I want to know the name of the person who DQ’d him
I just want to talk
Talk to whoever makes the rules, not the judges fault for following the rules.
@@sixtyninelolactually no his teammate finished therefore he could do that that dq was stupid
@@rolandnewby6132 says who?
great to know that he bounce back ..... congrats Owen
Reinstate his W already...
Is this his last year swimming?
No, this just happened
@@sylvainguinepain5624they’re asking if he’s a senior
@@sylvainguinepain5624is he a senior
He is a senior
Glad bro took his get back
This happened to me and I’m only 12 but for a different reason and the officials were super chill
About it, I was in prelims for my 50 breast (summer swim) and I was super scared so on the block I was shaking my hands bc I was nervous and after the race the official went up to me and told me what happened but said they would not dq me bc they k ow how it feels to be scared like that but they have me a warning and said on finals they are going to watch me very carefully I get 4th overall which isn’t the greatest but a lot better than getting dqed
I like Owen Lloyd very much!!! I'd love to meet him!!!
5th place and they give you a plaque participation trophy.
And that was the mile.
Good job to Owen for getting fifth place its not fair that angel Hernandez had the balls to dq him for celebrating
What are the diamonds on their chest
This tradition dates back all the way to ancient Mesopotamia, when college students back then had to also be part time minors in order to afford their education; the symbol of the diamond embodies the spirit of a Mesopotamian Diver. Fast, strong, invincible, and yet somehow, human.
@@levnewton3742 that was... amazing
What’s with the diamond on his and others chests
Maybe a team symbol?
Illuminati
Illuminati
Yup. th-cam.com/video/yFahLMLHke4/w-d-xo.html
Throwing "the symbol" up like a good frat boy that he is in that very same infamous finals.
that cheating judge got a lot of $$$$$$ for this false DQ
Bro what. There is no money in college swimming. They just got a healthy power trip
Who was the judge that did the obvious fraudulent DQ? Crazy to say the least.
???
Wow so violating rules is no longer relevant
@@karlmckinnell2635 "Interference" is a judgement call in swimming:
"Any competitor who interferes with another swimmer during a race shall be disqualified from that race, subject to the discretion of the referee." - Article 1.a of NCAA rules
As an active NCAA swimmer, who has been in the sport 15 years, this is the first time I've seen this sort of ruling. Crossing lanes/splashing is super common during celebrations once the people next to you are done. So even though it is at the officials discretion, it was definitely a power trip
Interesting channel name. Can I get a coach to teach me the buttstroke? I already know breaststroke and freestyle.
Love it!
A questão que importa é:
Ele tinha conhecimento dessa regra?
Isso havia sido bem esclarecido para todos os competidores antes da disputa?
Se o nadador não foi informado com clareza antes, então precisa ser recompensado pela legítima vitória. Por outro lado, se ele sabia exatamente do que se tratava então mereceu ter a vitória impugnada.
Owen is a humble beast!
❤❤❤
What does this mean
Lmao showing my lurking and maybe my age but:
A) It got more attention to dq him and the situation attracted non-swimmers
B) Something about the kinda nice part of the internet that we collectively rally for this guy but sad we can't realize these struggles in the guy next to us at the gas station
3) This style of vid harkens back to earlier TH-cam
My 2¢
I agree with point A and B but point 3 was WAY too controversial for me! By the way, consistency much? It seems you've labelled your paragraphs A B ..................... and 3. wth!!!
👏👍
While it is a dumb rule, it IS a rule that swimmers DO KNOW.
there comes a time where you just have to ask "who does enforcing this rule benefit?"
in this case, it benefitted no one. nobody gained from this except for the power-tripping referees
First
please shut up
Let's just hope he doesn't mess up another one of his victories.
Sad person. Let's hope the next officiating crew isn't a bunch of power hungry assholes
He did mess up tho, the officials are still jerks but there’s no doubt he made a mistake.
He didn't mess up anything. The rules are written too vague without the intent explicitly stated and a referee used that loophole to lash out on him. The rules exist to prevent those from interfering with swimmers. He has ever done that.
How was this bouncing back. 5th last whats the difference.
Hey kids don't join the swim team, they got some FUKD up rules
I was initially flabbergasted that you can't figure out the difference between fifth best in the nation and dead last but then I saw the username and everything made sense.
My stars….if the rule is no lane crossing whilst others competitors are still swimming, then, despite the heartbreak for Owen, disqualifying him was just. He should have remained in his lane. I’m willing to bet he won’t ever repeat the violation. ❤️🐈
What do you mean him jumping into his friends lane to celebrate after both of them finished and then calling his disqualification just is absurd
his friend had finished swimming though
You sound like the life of the party. Just, my booty cheeks
im also willing to say. you are braindead, well played.
So any rule or law is automatically ‘just’?
Because I call bs on that, I can think of quite a few laws and rules throughout the ages that were unjust, this is clearly one of them….it should only be enforced if it interferes with an active swimmer
Still doesn't change the dq. Hope the official is booed out of any future event and barred from all the pools and competitions.
He knows the rules. Next time don’t be an idiot
He had already won and was celebrating with his friend, who had already finished the race, so he wasn’t interfering with any other swimmers. Maybe learn the rules first, and you don’t be an idiot
@@captainb.mccrea5480Owen Lloyd was disqualified for crossing into another swimmer’s lane during competition, with a handful of swimmers still finishing their 66 laps during the winner’s celebration those are the written rules just because he finished is irrelevant maybe actually read the rulebook before calling people out 🤡
@@captainb.mccrea5480 The rules are very clear, no excuses
@@Dude-etiquette what about when both him And the other swimmer that was "interfered with" were already done
should that still count
@@ladyfreedownload We can argue about whether the rule is fair, but ultimately the rule is clear and every swimmer knows the rule and they applied the rule correctly
It may be a dumb rule but he needed to follow it like all other swimmers.
Hey Bonnenature. Question for you: when was the last time you dragged your sorry b*tt off the couch and into a swimming pool??? Swimming actually takes an incredible amount of strength, and after even as little as 10 minutes in the pool the average person is subject to lightheadedness, vomiting, fainting, fatigue, and much worse.. I love your profile pic tho.
5th is not redemption, I'm sorry
Much bigger pond. One event was conference-level; the next was national level. He also outperformed his national ranking.
At some point we as a society lost track of the fact that one of the reasons we teach our children about sports is to teach them discipline and how to control their emotions. It isn't supposed to be about winning, or entertaining the masses. Not until you get to the pro level, anyway. That's just the bonus you get if you happen to be the best performer on any given day. He was so excited and proud that he won that he lost control of his emotions, forgot the damn rules, and acted in an undisciplined manner. The shame of his being dq'ed from that other race is not that it was a bad call, it wasn't. It's that the ref had to teach him a lesson his coaches should have drilled into him from the beginning. STAY IN YOUR LANE.
YES thank you!! somebody finally said it
It is a bad call, because he didn't interfere with any other swimmer. The lane he fell into was his teammate's who was already done. If he'd fallen into an active lane, then fine, but it's still a bullshit call. He didn't forget the rules. He straddled the lane line like so many do, slipped, and fell the wrong way. If he falls back into his own lane, he gets the win he deserved.
This guy is the embodiment of entitlement.
When rules are dumb, it's dumb. It need to change
Wahh wahh
LOL should have done something cooler than swimming anyhow.
go achieve something lil bro
He should be banned from all meets
H2O more like H2No, you are wrong. Owen is great and can swam much better then you. In fact, if a shark were in a pool with you and Owen, it would simply have to wait for you to drown before picking you off. BUT Owen would save you because he is a bigger person. Thanks owen heart emoji.
Well done he got 5th, what a come back. Laim🥱
not like you could even could close to that