This is the perfect example of some try-hard ref enforcing a rule but completely and utterly ignoring the spirit of the rule. Obviously no interference was caused and the swimmer in that lane was already done. Insane.
that what i said to cops: you are insane, there were no traffic on the road, you are ignoring the spirit of red light, it means: do whatever the duck you want on this street and i was happy about my job promotion!
it’s stupid. it’s as if robots are enforcing the rule. this clearly isn’t what the rule tries to prevent and any person with common sense can see that. the judges just said “well technically, he broke a rule” without actually considering why that rule exists in the first place
@@zloidooraque0 that’s- without a doubt- the worst analogy i’ve heard all week. breaking traffic laws and hugging a teammate who’s finished with the race are two totally different things. to fix that analogy, it’s more like getting that promotion, driving home with your work friend in separate cars, getting out of the car, having a drink to celebrate, and getting a ticket for a DUI in your own house. do you think you can see why that doesn’t really work now?
@user-iy1vo2jf2q ...probably not worth a DQ, yes, but the rule is very clear: "A swimmer who changes lanes during a heat shall be disqualified." The heat wasn't finished yet as others were still working hard to finish. Seems like something he should have known if he's been swimming long enough to garner a record?
That’s right, the call cited “interference” by crossing into another lane, but the winner clearly knew he was crossing into his friend’s lane who had already also finished. It also happened a good 15 seconds after his finish. The NCAA needs to step in and restore this win.
The ref is the same guy who was the nerdy woke hall monitor in middle school who everyone loathed and some would deal with after school. A total jerk. Or he's the power tripper cop who instead of a warning for being 1 mph over on the hwy that's posted at 55 gave you a ticket for the Max fine ...
@@Ron-zd1jo bro im so sick of the word woke please god stop saying everything is woke, its used in the same context as skibidi but for zoomers, the word has no meaning anymore but lowkey I know the kind of person your talking about, this ref is a complete dickhead, spot on comparison
@@wpgspecb Someone who thinks they "opened their eyes" to the injustice in the world by the "majority" but actually just walking face first into fabricated division, so they put their eyes on that instead of the actual problem, the elite. I'm more surprised that this has been the "push back", "define woke" like that destroyed his argument while he can just call you a loser and move on with life, it's just as dumb thinking "you're weird" was going to own republicans, well that come back lasted all but two months at the most didn't it?
@@HeyhitmeBAM Are you dumb? The guy won by a landslide and in the heat of the moment wanted and deserved to celebrate. I can tell you are absolutely miserable.
@@HeyhitmeBAM there is a reason you are the only person with that opinion. The part your emotional problems have a problem with isn't what he got disqualified for anyway. he could have done the same thing litterally 3 seconds later, he just made a mistake not thinking lanes on the other end where still active so he couldn't cross into one where his team was already done. This is an optionally enforced rule for causing problems with other lanes that was used at the wrong time. Thanks for pulling out frat party from no where as it isn't slighly relevant to the video. Every living thing that sees your comment will go away knowing you have something wrong with you. just because you see a guy happy about an accomplishment like beating his overal best time doesn't mean something is wrong. work on yourself a little.
I was expecting to see some disgusting display of egotism and hubris. This kid was excited that’s all. Totally deserves the win and to celebrate. Ridiculous ruling.
Unfortunately for him, he screwed up. Rule 2, Section 5, Article 1b: "A swimmer who changes lanes during a heat shall be disqualified." The heat hadn't finished. Stupid rule, that could be revised, but it is what it is. All sports have some unpopular rules but they certainly shouldn't be changed from play to play. It's the participants responsibility to be aware of them. Accountability...a value of the past?
I'm going to be honest and real when I say I genuinely wish there were more egotistical people winning and celebrating their victories. Getting really tired of the "humble and modest" people winning. It's just hating at that point
@@roberthedrick1397 That rule is clearly to punish disrupting swimmers that haven't finished. He crossed into a lane of a swimmer that already finished. We have brains, let's use some fucking logic and give the kid the fucking medal. Shit like this is fucking pathetic.
@@roberthedrick1397 The same "rules" that let men compete against and win every womens swimming competition? The ones that get changed for the convenience of the T community whenever possible? Yeah, these rules can be changed almost at will to suit whatever is convenient to certain groups. You could even add "At the discretion of the referee" to the rule and fix it immediately.
He was celebrating with his teammate and friend, who got 2nd. They were celebrating together, only in two lanes that had already finished. Bad rule, and shouldn't have been enforced.
@@Fred-vy1hm & @samgray49 If that is correct (finishing a race) - then why are "race car drivers" - who are at LEAST one lap behind, absolutely NOT ALLOWED to finish "their races"??? ONE of them answers, is a B/S answer - and thy are NEITHER of your ones eh?
@@Fred-vy1hmI get this, and it’s tricky, but I think we just have to think of the purpose of the rule. Why is it there? Probably to prevent swimmers from interrupting each other or getting in the way of a swimmer who has not finished. But if your buddy is next to you, and they are also finished, I feel that this does not actually go against the PURPOSE of the rule. But, it then becomes more open as you said. Regardless, I still think it’s pretty asinine. I get rules, we just have to think of why they are there and what it is there to prevent. I speed a teeny bit at times, usually just 5 over at maximum, but I understand I shouldn’t speed egregiously because there speed was deemed the acceptable safe limit within the area. Yet, cops won’t pull you over for going 5 over- sure some of that is the radar being within a certain percentage of correctness but I don’t even see them try if you go 5-10 over, only in excess of that. To me, this is like being pulled over for going 5 over.
@@QuantumMecha Well said. However, in this case it wouldn't have even been going 5 over. It's more like a road has an arbitrary 20mph limit set on it because during Winter it ices over. Now this guy drives 25mph during a warm Summer day without any risk of an accident. To make matters worse, his car gets confiscated effective immediately so he even has to take a taxi ride to the nearest car dealership to buy a new car out of pocket.
Took the words right out of my mouth. I don't even watch Swimming at all. And I want to become involved in this sport just to support this young man and see Justice take place.
@@consumoholic You hear one swimming rule and youre ready to grab pitch forks. Bro it’s not that serious. Wild to me you make that joke but they’re actually receiving threats.
It was the right thing to do : when he lets himself fall in the other lane, he makes waves that can affect the chrono of others swimmers. Imagine the first F1 pilot who finishes the race starts to make a burnout and makes smoke al overt the finish line. That's the same thing, and that was the right decison to disqualify him.
@mickeymousesupremency149 Having worked in the mental health field in numerous positions for over 25 years, including direct client care, and without yet searching Google, I'd say it means presenting the personality disorders and conditions of a psychopath. Now I WILL look it up: "Psychopathy is a neuropsychiatric disorder marked by deficient emotional responses, lack of empathy, and poor behavioral controls, commonly resulting in persistent antisocial deviance and criminal behavior." Bit of advice: the ad hominem is the worst fallacy of all: It instantly demonstrates you have gifted your opponent a very satisfying win.
That was ridiculous. If the swimmer was still swimming when he crossed into his lane, fine, but he was DONE. He “interfered” with nothing. Good on his teammate for standing by him and insisting he wouldn’t take the win under those circumstances. Someone with authority needs to strike that idiotic requirement from the rules. Outrageous.
@@RichyRich2607 ordinarily I would agree with you, but in this case, the rule needs to be re-examined. It was put in place to avoid swimmers from interfering in each other’s progress during the race, which he followed. To reprimand him for a post- race celebration is not what the rule was intended for
giving up the medal and podium is one thing, but I doubt he is going to give up his spot moving forward to the bigger things as the #1 qualifier in this
5:02 The last words spoken on the video you can hear the speaker starting to tear up as she's realizing the extent of the injustice; the unfairness and obvious wrongness of the decision. Or was that just me?
He crossed into an inactive lane (teammate was done swimming). So... how, exactly, is the rule "effective" in this case? Wouldn't it only be effective when applied to active lanes?@@basnoordermeer4249
@@basnoordermeer4249 yes, it was an incredibly stupid interpretation and use of that rule, and I say that as a swimming coach and ex pro swimmer. He didnt interfere with any other active swimmer, and the spirit of the rule is only about those. Such celebrations actually happen all the time even in Olympics without such stupid disqualifications happening. Mongoloid ref with a pathetic need to use their power, or someone with an agenda, vengence, or something.
@StefanRial the Australian women's swim team beat the world record in the olympics and was disqualified for something the same....it resulted in the USA getting the gold metal. USA team didn't complain...hell they pointed it out....its heart breaking and a bit S*?t.
Ye fr he’s like “oH lEt Me RuIn SoMeOnEs DaY bY nOt LeTtInG tHeM cElEbRaTe AfTeR wInNiNg” like shut the f**k up man let them have some fun Like that’s just BS
Crossing into the lane of someone who is still swimming would be a reasonable disqualification. But the swimmer in the next lane had finished also. This decision is totally bonkers.
@@grawakendream8980 So... having basic empathy and an oppinion in the matter is now being emotionally unstable? sure pal. I'd reccomend you to project elsewhere.
I can understand a penalty for being a sore winner, for gloating, for rubbing your win in an opponent's face, or being disruptive. That isn't what happened here. The judges are incredibly pathetic and immature.
Idk man, getting up on a lane line while competitors are still swimming is pretty disrespectful. I swam competitively (I was mediocre, not a record breaker), and we were always taught that when you finish, you stand and wait until everyone else finishes before you do anything else
@@Sklounst_Actual AGREED! The judges were simply following the rule. Don't like the rules? Change them. The kid made a terrible mistake. He can learn to weave it into his life for the better if his coach and family help him. The lady announcer? She's wrong. You do NOT celebrate in someone else's lane when the race is still underway.
@@Sklounst_Actual Ur obviously crap at what you do if you believe what he did ruined the experience for the runner-up. If I was that athlete in second place, I would throw my medal into the guys lap and stated pubically that i'd came second. It isnt right and yet some people like you defend the stupid decision all because that would've hurt YOUR feelings.
The people in the comments defending the ruling would give up their first born to the forest for no reason other than it was a written law. Licking the boot is one thing, swallowing it whole like this is crazy.
straight men always supporting each other’s questionable decisions, all in favor of protecting their warped values of patriarchy and machismo… disgusting
@@dashinblu lol that would've been so funny. But seriously, what he said was exactly what pretty much every other athlete would've said in that situation, whether they really mean it or not. If you would say something like you deserved the win and you start celebrating, everyone would think you're an asshole and even people who are actually assholes know that. Imagine someone tells you his girlfriend broke up and you had a crush on her for years, you still would not say "oh great, finally she's free and i can hit on her"
@@xiaokaSo what? That’s not th point, the rule is in place to stop finish swimmers from interfering with people still swimming. They were both done so the rule doesn’t apply. It’s literally his own teammate too
ya man, imagine how embarrassing it is for the #2 swimmer, who didn't win #1 due to skill, and Owen didn't cheat nor disrupt. Like anyone who is the #2 swimmer will know they didn't earn the medal, as witnessed LIVE on TV. Judges clearly didn't think this through and made a haste, lack of human element, decision. similar case of DQ on technicality but Don Calhoun "He Made A Million Dollar Shot And They Didn't Want To Pay Him". Even if "legally right", Michael Joran still felt its wrong.
"Hey so even though you just beat your personal best by 4 seconds, won a conference championship, and punched a ticket to nationals, we couldn't help but notice that you got a little too happy about all that..."
@@billweeks9606his excitement shown through him literally hopping over to celebrate with his teammate (who had already finished swimming). *Its a dumb rule.* Just accept it
@@billweeks9606it's also illegal to walk down the street with an ice cream cone in your back pocket in some states. Don't you think some rules are plain dumb?
@@debrasnipes7431 Well, no. They are going to put that medal around his neck and he can easily take it off and give it to his teammate. Not super surprising that someone would do it, either. Who in hell wants a gold medal for a race in which everyone saw him finish second?
I don't like to point fingers, but I have to question the competency of his swimming coach. This is *exactly* the sort of thing that should be caught *before* the competition, during Penis Inspection day.
@HelpMeplease991 you are some random teen who makes "music" and tryna get some attention for that cash by spamming comments with your alt account promoting your real account and trying to make your comment seem relevant by associating your comment with the video's topic
Well his heart is in the right place but he was wrong to "defend" Lloyd. This implies that him being disqualified is at least potentially someone else's fault. That isn't the case. Lloyd disqualified himself and there is nothing that could be done about it. It is terrible and upsetting but, there is no injustice to right here.
@@joshuamorrison8332so I've seen a lot of people say that the Rule Lloyd broke is a discretionary rule which means the judges could've decided not to count it as in this case it didn't interfere with Ross who had already finished but they still decided to enforce the rule.
@@kristinleigh545 The referees literally had no other option as the rule mandates automatic dq for the swimmer. So maybe be angry at the swimmer for breaking rules and stop being disgusting.
Props to the guy who said he wasn't gonna take the glory while they snatched the obvious winner's dreams away. The referees made a fool out of that event and themselves.
@@goodbyemr.anderson5065what do you mean, I hope you aren’t saying he didn’t give it to him. Cause they both came out and said that it was given to him, it’s in his room. It went to the rightful winner
This deserved a warning not a “let’s break this young man’s spirit and rip first place out of his hands off of a technicality, even though he didn’t negatively impact anyone there”. That’s just messed up. It’s so bad u can hear the woman’s voice start to shake at the end bc she was getting ready to cry for the boy.
I love the teammate reaction, I love how eloquent he was and just jumped right into the rant. In all those emotions he didn't hesitate and still was so polite despide being furious. That's a true sportsman!
I didn't like the teammate's reaction at all. Seems like a young man who lacks respect for authorities. A spoilt lil brat in other words. Should be disqualified from any kind of sports events 😮😮😮😮😮😮
The judges are correct. You don't go into another lane or get out until all swimmers have finished. That's the rule and he would be aware of it. He screwed up.
@@fireskycam9889 The rule might state for interference, but no other swimmer in that race would have been affected by what he was doing, the lane he fell into was finished too. I could understand if he was still swimming but should not have been a dq
@@fireskycam9889 Stop being a spaniel you're whole life. Rules are there to remedy problems - not to be blindly adhered to. The point of the rule is to stop interference between swimmers - yet he went into the lane of a FINISHED swimmer.
So the kid so much better than the others that he had the time to finish, realize he won, see he has an incredible time, go over a lane scream how happy proud he is before dropping in the other lane that already finished. BUT when he did there was still people not finished and that wen't agaisn't him? He won. He did nothing wrong. Judge is a morron.
As an experienced Swim Coach myself I understand the rule, however if both swimmers have finished the race, referees need to apply some common sense. Every winner in swimming history celebrates like that! Pathetic officials.
I have never seen two swimmers competing in the last heat and the rest were a lap behind +. what kind of beer league is that? there is no winner under FINA sitting a celebrating on lane until everyone is done
I hate what happened here. What makes it worse, is that OTHER swimmers were not done. The guy who he hugged was absolutely done, but somewhere off camera there was someone still going, and that is why my man was diqualified.
@@youngredstreams2667 So what? The rule is there to prevent obstruction to people who are still swimming and he didnt do that at all. He crossed the line to celebrate with a teammate, not to get in the way of anyone else
well I don't want to be that guy but.... I'm a terrible human being and even I wouldn't want that hunk of metal, It doesn't feel earned, where's the pride in it?
@reddragonready for someone acting so smart and condescending you should be knowledgeable enough to know that maybe he didn’t see that part? You know the part at the END? He could have typed that before the end of the video? I know mindblowing
Rule 2, Section 5, Article 1a. He DID NOT interfere with another swimmer. Rule 2, Section 5, Article 1b. He WAS NOT an active swimmer who changed lanes during a heat. He had finished as did the other lane swimmer who had also finished. Both rules refer to active swimmers He needs a lawyer and a Go Fund Me page
Disqualification is totally in line with the written rules. The only person that did anything stupid is the swimmer who threw away a good run. Also, anyone defending him and attacking the officials for doing their job. Meaning you. You are stupid.
@@dh-uo4lt did you know boomers can steal your artwork, content, and ideas if you don’t have $100,000 to take to elaborate court? Yeah nobody cares anymore. We’re done with them forcing 9-5 dirt pay with $3500/mo to exist in a cubicle, being called lazy. We’re done being unable to defend ourselves, and having medals stolen over more nonsense “but technically the boomer rules matter and you don’t”. Maybe start questioning everything for once. What happened here is sickening and more proof of how corrupt the older generations have become. It’s become common place for them to rip off kids “to defend their honor system”. It’s corrupt, and power abuse. He obstructed nothing. More ok boomer rules shoved down everyone’s throat and they refuse to admit how wrong they are because the only thing that mattered here was the judges’ narcissistic ability to wield power. Envious egos watching attractive youthful athletes do something they can’t; nothing but miserable boomers plain as day and everyone can see it. We’re so sick of narcissism being boomer-splained away as “honor system and integrity of the very fabric of rules and systems themselves!” Nobody thinks swimming would self destruct if they had used common sense. It’s just evil abusers wielding mallets
@@BeverlyReeserin à such case, the spirit of the rule should supersede over the letter, as he did not bother his competitor , this is the spirit of rule.
@@k.robertrichardson6779 in any cases, a worthy judge will assess the contextual situation and will take his/her conviction based on both the letter and the spirit of the law. If the judge considers the letter alone, it is the death of the law. The judge will not last long, will be dismissed sooner or later.
Amazing coverage of the technicality disqualification and the swimmer guy's reaction to it. We get to watch frame for frame how unbridled joy turns to anxiousness to disbelief to outright terror and desperation upon the announcement. To a Sadist, that's a very arousing and rare TH-cam discovery.
I can see the rule being applied to crossing into a lane with a swimmer who’s actively racing, but he crossed into a persons lane who had already completed the race. He wasn’t disrupting anyone. He had won fairly and was celebrating with a fellow teammate on an amazing performance. He did not deserve to be disqualified.
@@AmericaYaHalloHalloI’m pretty sure the psychopathic ref wanted to feel important, so he invented a technicality based on a vague ruleset. A literal injustice, and everyone knows it.
It's the rules he broke them so he lost😂wtf are you talking about. Oh well he won so he doesn't have to follow the rules. He messed other people still racing. It might have been over for him because he took his steroids. But the regular athletes were still swimming 🤫the teammate should have been disqualified as well for openly saying the rules are dumb
@@moneymanifestation9505 "this kid won so he's taking steroids" LMAO WTF?? also, when he celebrated, the person's lane that he passed into was already finished racing. he didn't interfere with SHIT. did you watch the video??
@@oberpenneraffe.. I knew a tennis player who had a promising career ahead of her but just could not reach the top. She talked to a top coach who asked her what she would do if she saw her best friend on the ground, badly injured and begging for help. The woman said that she would stop and help. The coach told her that was the reason that she would never be a top flight player because they understand that the only thing they can think about is personal success. Nothing else mattered, and it appears that the team mate understood that the door of opportunity had opened for him.
@@johnvienta7622 Humility, honour, self accomplishment, sacrifice. Those who reach the top by letting others fall are nothing more than winners. You have every right to do so, but achieving something at the detriment of someone else is not rewarding whatsoever. Literally takes the fun of it all too. If you’re truly good at something, you’ll reach the top while making the ones who stand around you rise.
The purpose of this rule is clearly to deter swimmers from interfering with other swimmers still racing. Both of the swimmers involved here were obviously finished with the race.
@@hottuna2006 It does bro, Section 5 Article 1 A-F are ALL labeled underneath "Interference" as a subsection to Fouls as a whole. It is quite literally only there so you don't unfairly interfere with other swimmers, going into a lane that has a swimmer that has already finished and is totally fine celebrating with you is not interference.
Could you please explain what the rule means instead of just sighting its number? I can't seem to find a list of rules for competitive swimming that has this numeration @@hottuna2006
but the race wasn't over yet. You clearing don't understand racing, and I hope you try to race one day in any sport because its timeless tradition, that doesn't change for any generation, especially this one.
He and his teammate were already done with the race when he entered the other lane. That rule was specifically written to prevent interference while the race is still in progress. But as those two were already finished, he caused no interference. Major props to his teammates for supporting him and refusing the automatic win.
Rule 2, Section 5, Article 1b: "A swimmer who changes lanes during a heat shall be disqualified." The heat hadn't finished. Stupid rule, that could be revised, but it is what it is. All sports have some unpopular rules but they certainly shouldn't be changed from play to play. It's the participants responsibility to be aware of them. Accountability...a value of the past?
@@roberthedrick1397 you realise what judges exist for right? if all we did was take rules for a sport at face value, judges wouldnt even have a job. they are there to decide technicalities and nuance. the spirit of the rule not the words. the world isnt black and white. i can tell you never watch sports and just want to wag your finger to pad your ego. he didnt interfere with other lanes still in progress, therefore most judges would deem no interference and let it fly but i guess the judges this time were similar to you. egotistical with their head in the clouds.
@@newp0rtThat guy is just copy pasting that comment in threads. Clearly never achieved anything and is resorting to demeaning others to make himself feel better. Pathetic.
@@newp0rt This is even more egregious when you see that the teammate who technically won by default of the disqualification said he wouldn't accept his own "win" either and admitted the guy won fair and square. I don't watch sports though, so I don't know much about the nuances of this, but I would be inclined to believe a judge is there to make the calls in line with the spirit of the rule on a case by case basis.
@@planetvegan7843they do exist, well done. Job done. Black and white thinking in place. Clearly you are a great team member in whatever job you do. Anyone would be happy to have you.
That isn't the rule. The rule is you can't enter another swimmer's lane while the race is not yet finished, period. It's no different than the 100m in track and field. You leave your lane you're DQd, period. Makes no difference if you actually interfere with another runner or not.
@@Rowgue51you don’t get dq’d in track if, after you cross the finish line, you enter another lane lmao i ran track but keep talking from your couch buddy
@@Rowgue51 the video specifically stated the refs ruled they were disqualified for "interference with another swimmer, hence the quotes. Regardless, if instead he was DQd because you can't enter another swimmers lane while the race isn't completely over, period, there's the argument that the race WAS completely over in both lanes in question, and none of his actions interfered with any lanes that still had a race going on. Again regardless of any of that, I doubt the spirit of the rule was to prevent celebrating a record swim with the person beaide you, who is also finished. The intention of a rule/law can matter more than the actual wording.
@enny2218The rule is right there in the video description "A swimmer who changes lanes during a heat shall be disqualified". He changed lanes. The heat wasn't over. There's no talk of interference in the rule. I agree, bullshit rule, but if that's the rule it needs to be enforced... this guy won't be the first one to be disqualified for it... maybe he can be the last if the rule is changed though.
@@abhibeckertno it was over and he didn't interfere with anyone. Its hilarious how the same people that wanna be stuck up about such bs, will gladly have a man race women and dominate them, sometimes even Injuring them in some sports where there's contact.
@@mintymus We need rules, but rules need to be applied in a logical way. Yes, he indeed broke the rule, but it didn't affect the competition itself nor the performance of the rest of the swimmers.
how miserable do you have to be to disqualify a kid for celebrating WITH his team mate AFTER the team mate already finished too! there was no “interference”. he made HISTORY.
Even if they decide (under public pressure) to give him back his winning, it's way too late. They've taken away his genuine excitement and happiness. Unbelievable!
I feel so bad for Lloyd. He was at his biggest high AND his lowest low in such a short amount of time. I can’t imagine the anguish ,,, Nothing those judges do can ever bring that moment back for him. They need to be fired
Literally breaking a massive record in his senior year of college swimming in a really intense long-distance swim. That was such an unnecessary call for an ambiguous rule that doesn't seem to apply to what we all see here. That must have been soul crushing. But we all know he smashed that record and even though it is too late it will be good if they reverse that call and he gets his official record.
He absolutely did Not "Interfere with an ongoing race".The lane he went into was his Teammate's and He'd Finished. This is sickening. Years of hard work taken for a nonsense call. They Must reinstate his Record time, and allow him to continue his career in the Nationals as He Earned.
He egregiously went into another player's lane and was rightfully disqualified. I would have banned him for the rest of the year for such a shocking display of behavior.
He crossed the lane to a teammate who was already finished. To celebrate. That is the dumbest ruling use on a situation calling for it ever. The kid trained a very long time for that event. Then to take it from him with such reasoning? Uncalled for. Very unsportsmanlike as a judge. That judge or judges should be banned from these events for that call. This needs to be overturned.
@@AiVaultGuy and he didn’t break any rules as he didn’t interfere with the other swimmer’s race. both swimmers were done when he crossed into the other lane
There is such a thing as the spirit of the rule. The spirit of the rule is crossing over into another competitor's lane who is still swimming, NOT the lane where your teammate is done swimming.
Exactly - the rule actually references "interference" with another swimmer. I bet the turd who called him on this rule was peeing his panties to get to someone and get this enforced.
I commented the same thing and then saw yours. You beat me to it. But, you're exactly right. They ignored the spirit to follow the letter, missing the entire point of the rule. So dumb.
Curious child watching: “….Daddy, I thought you told us that working hard and following your passion will get fantastic results worth celebrating…?” Father: “………..”
Some people were like "but the others weren't done swimming" like my brother in christ how would those little splashes he made "interfere" with the others
As a swimmer, I always knew this rule. We had to wait for the last swimmer to finish before crossing into other lanes to congratulate the winner or a teammate... that being said, as long as a swimmer doesn't cross into an active lane, IT SHOULDN'T MATTER.
@sasquatchrosefarts9131 at practice, we would have to run sprints and do pushups if we were caught going over a lane line... and being tasked with restringing the line through the rings. This DQ had nothing to do with the lane line, it would have been the same if he swam under it.
The USSR unfairly ruled, repeatedly, all during one year, that the opponents were disqualified, and in Australia’s case, after setting a record. They found loopholes in the rules, and they took advantage of them. This is the exact same sorta crap… the rules were changed after that year, and they should be changed again here.
Wow, this is truly disappointing, imagine getting your best time and accomplishing something you train so hard for after 14 minutes of intense swimming and you get it all taken away because you celebrated with your friend? It didn't impede other active swimmers in any way, this is a serious lapse in judgement by the referees and I really feel for Owen here
Indeed it quite unbelievable and on the one hand senseless. However, he was not disqualified for celebrating. He was disqualified for crossing his lane while the race was not finished. The question is: what do the rules say? And if you had to write the rules, at what point in time do you consider crossing the lanes as acceptable/ unacceptable? For sure one cannot blame officials for following the rules, nor can you blame whoever wrote the rules for not writing a chapter about such a basic rule. After all the race is not over until the last person crosses the line: it is a form of respect.
Heat of the moment. Actually he'll regret that later. He'll wish he'd yelled "THERY'RE NOT FINISHED" to his buddy. One of them or another buddy has already learned this rule probably in grade school.
As an attorney, I try to look not only at the law but the purpose of the law. Here, the rule makes sense. But, the application of the rule does not. It's impossible to interfere with a swimmer who has already completed the race. And one could easily argue that once a swimmer has completed his race, he can not "change" lanes as his race is over. So, the only issue on the application of the rule is whether the winner somehow "interfered" with someone who was still swimming. He did not. Very few people finish so far ahead of the other swimmers that this type of scenario is rarely even possible. Decision makers should have more insight than those who made this one. Had the official not made the call, none of the other coaches would have protested. So, obviously no one else had an issue.
“but he broke the rule” he didnt break the rule since the other swimmer already finished, its like saying you cant celebrate with your friend that joined you in the race and is next to you because you are interfering with them
The problem is probably not the sport and the rules. The problem are the people of the past, who exploited the non existence of such rules. That is why we put rules like these in place and we have to live with it.
Okay so my brain read the title as "swimmer gets disqualified for being uncut" Which, I'm gonna be honest, would make for a good parody video on a different kind of site.
I can't believe judges did this and stuck to this decision. That so stupid to disqualify an athlete like that. He didn't interfere with anybody, his teammate had already finished his race, that "during a heat" part of the rule was completely dismissed somehow. So stupid, unreasonable and downright cruel thing to do. Shame on those judges.
@@panoramlx The Rules as they are presented in the description of the video: - Rule 2, Section 5, Article 1a: "Any competitor who interferes with another swimmer during a race shall be disqualified from that race, subject to the discretion of the referee..." He did not interfere with another competing swimmer. His teammate had finished his race, so Owen did not cause any problems to him when he was racing. - Rule 2, Section 5, Article 1b: "A swimmer who changes lanes during a heat shall be disqualified." Ambiguous. If you take "heat" as a race which ends when every athlete has finished their swim, then rule applies. However, both swimmers in those 2 lanes had already finished their races, which means the heat for them was over. They were no longer a part of the heat. But the thing is, instead of blindly following the rules, especially when they're not oh so clear, you should rely on the initial intent that rules were written for, and basic reason, after all. Many times rules are not perfect - in the end they are written by people and could be very flawed
Years ago I saw a cross country race winner get DQed for finishing a race with one shoe! Lost the other in the mud! Rule said you had to have proper foot ware. Total bs.
that one I understand, as others tied their shoes properly. if it came off while running a multitude of issues could have caused it. someone who kept their shoe on should win.
@@Brainjoy01 the guy who lost his shoe tied it properly. Things can work loose even if you do everything correctly. Even if you eat healthy food and refuse to drink and smoke you can still get cancer. I don't think it's right to tell a cancer victim that they got sick because something they did or didn't do when they led a healthy lifestyle
@@Vynndii depends on what the rules state, they exist for a reason and that actually makes the game more fun considering it’s another thing to think about. you can take breaks during marathons and still win, that’s why there are teams and back up pairs of shoes. I don’t know when he lost the insoles
@@user-fh2vx3hd6c Anyone with a real brain understands that you can't interfere with a another swimmer that has already finished the race, plus it was his TEAMMATE, it's not like he fell into a random competitors lane while they were still racing, that would have been uncalled for That rule is the equivalent of a baseball player celebrating a home run by giving someone running to the plate behind him a high five after he goes over the plate, and getting the homerun disqualified because of it, it makes no sense and everyone knows it
As a swimmer in high school and college and after watching this I find it absolutely insane. Seriously dumb. These refs imo should have used more discretion based on what we saw happen but they made that call without wasting any time. The lane he went into was also complete. This felt like a biased call by a ref that just doesn't like him and/or their team or was just having a power trip. This could have been a warning. Regardless we all saw he broke a record and set one hell of a time for a 1650y. It is NCAA College level rules and I assume a D1 team but I still think the call is harsh for what actually happened and didn't have to be made. It wasn't Nationals or the Olympics. He didn't actually jump in a lane but just kind of tumbled in which was his teammates lane who had also already finished.
he was excited, that was his teammate and both had finished. It interfered with nothing. 1650y is a big deal to make records, that's a long event. Reminds me of when I swam in Rhode Island, the officials absolutely hated life. I got yelled at and threatened for "jumping" in the warmup lane when I simply dropped in.@@jfearless3420
When I clicked this I expected him to get disqualified for showing out and being obnoxious. This is so much worse, that poor young man wasn’t being obnoxious at all, the judges were in my opinion
My heart just sank for him. I know what its like to have something you worked so hard for taken from you in an instant. Its gut wrenching and it can make anyone break down and cry. I'm not a very emotional person but when it happened to me I bawled my eyes out in front of everyone.
It is understandable that you cant cross the lane when swimming but when he finished he saw his teammate was too and crossed the lane. In what way could that affect the race, his teammate was already done and his time was already on the books. How could the referees do that, that is just so rude and I can't imagine how Lloyd would have felt.
I completely agree with you. My guess is that he maybe made some disturbance with the water flow or something like that, but if that was the reason, that would be the most outragous disqualification in history, since the change is so minimal. But that's just my guess I don't think he actually was DQ'd because of that
hello, current swimmer here. located in the rules of USA swimming, (where this took place) you are NOT allowed to interfere with another swimmer until the race is over. (usually signaled by a whistle) it doesn’t matter if the person next to you has finished.
"interference with another swimmer."? the other swimmer was already finished. What an absurd rule, and for a referee to invoke this rule in these circumstances, he should not be a referee.
Too many people dont take rules as a guideline but instead take them as a law. You need to be aware of when a rule just doesn't apply. This is one of those moments.
Right??? It’s some stupid technicality that was more than likely a judgement call. I can’t believe they wouldn’t give him the benefit of the doubt. I cannot imagine working that hard, for so long, only for the judges to destroy his accomplishments for seemingly no good reason.
@@lopez8277How stupid are you?? I played soccer almost all my life, touching a ball is so different compared to cheering your win with your teammate that already finished the swim as well. You must have a rough life for being so cruel. Touching a ball is literally everything against soccer. Since you can only use your feet😭😭💀
this sport does damn near everything in its power to disallow fun
Big fan, and I totally agree. Love your videos!
Love the vids bro.
I agree. Swimming is never going to become a popular sport if dumb stuff like this continues.
Totally right kyle, this is also pretty good footage documenting everything happened after the race and disqualification
have they tried Galactic Swimming?
The guy who ended up taking the technicality saying he’s not taking the medal is a serious friend and shows amazing sportsmanship
"He beat me fair and square and he deserves that medal not me" Good teammate and friend
I mean, any decent human being would do the same, no one would take that medal in pride
u know they homies coz id do the same for mine ✊✊ respect to him man
Rules like these were made by fools.
K kid
This is the perfect example of some try-hard ref enforcing a rule but completely and utterly ignoring the spirit of the rule. Obviously no interference was caused and the swimmer in that lane was already done. Insane.
that what i said to cops: you are insane, there were no traffic on the road, you are ignoring the spirit of red light, it means: do whatever the duck you want on this street and i was happy about my job promotion!
it’s stupid. it’s as if robots are enforcing the rule. this clearly isn’t what the rule tries to prevent and any person with common sense can see that.
the judges just said “well technically, he broke a rule” without actually considering why that rule exists in the first place
Is it not allowed if the lane is finished? That is dumb
hey, ask a stupid question, get ... wrecked.
@@zloidooraque0 that’s- without a doubt- the worst analogy i’ve heard all week. breaking traffic laws and hugging a teammate who’s finished with the race are two totally different things.
to fix that analogy, it’s more like getting that promotion, driving home with your work friend in separate cars, getting out of the car, having a drink to celebrate, and getting a ticket for a DUI in your own house. do you think you can see why that doesn’t really work now?
The worst thing is he was celebrating with his friend who ALREADY finished the race
yeah but others were still finishing up is the issue. however he didn't impede them so i guess they chalked it up as unsportsmanlike conduct.
*already
@user-iy1vo2jf2q *irrelevant
@user-iy1vo2jf2q ...probably not worth a DQ, yes, but the rule is very clear: "A swimmer who changes lanes during a heat shall be disqualified." The heat wasn't finished yet as others were still working hard to finish. Seems like something he should have known if he's been swimming long enough to garner a record?
That’s right, the call cited “interference” by crossing into another lane, but the winner clearly knew he was crossing into his friend’s lane who had already also finished. It also happened a good 15 seconds after his finish. The NCAA needs to step in and restore this win.
I’ve never seen such a pathetic ruling from a referee in my life. I’d be ashamed of myself if I even considered making a decision like that
The ref is the same guy who was the nerdy woke hall monitor in middle school who everyone loathed and some would deal with after school. A total jerk. Or he's the power tripper cop who instead of a warning for being 1 mph over on the hwy that's posted at 55 gave you a ticket for the Max fine ...
@@Ron-zd1jo bro im so sick of the word woke please god stop saying everything is woke, its used in the same context as skibidi but for zoomers, the word has no meaning anymore
but lowkey I know the kind of person your talking about, this ref is a complete dickhead, spot on comparison
@@Ron-zd1jo define woke
@@wpgspecbunearned morally self righteous
@@wpgspecb Someone who thinks they "opened their eyes" to the injustice in the world by the "majority" but actually just walking face first into fabricated division, so they put their eyes on that instead of the actual problem, the elite.
I'm more surprised that this has been the "push back", "define woke" like that destroyed his argument while he can just call you a loser and move on with life, it's just as dumb thinking "you're weird" was going to own republicans, well that come back lasted all but two months at the most didn't it?
Next time he wins you know he will not celebrate again; this is how you kill someone’s happiness. So sad.
Nwo master plan
Good, maybe win with some class and follow the rules of the competition, this isn’t a frat party.
@@HeyhitmeBAM Are you dumb? The guy won by a landslide and in the heat of the moment wanted and deserved to celebrate. I can tell you are absolutely miserable.
@@HeyhitmeBAM where the fuck do you people come from?
@@HeyhitmeBAM there is a reason you are the only person with that opinion. The part your emotional problems have a problem with isn't what he got disqualified for anyway. he could have done the same thing litterally 3 seconds later, he just made a mistake not thinking lanes on the other end where still active so he couldn't cross into one where his team was already done. This is an optionally enforced rule for causing problems with other lanes that was used at the wrong time. Thanks for pulling out frat party from no where as it isn't slighly relevant to the video. Every living thing that sees your comment will go away knowing you have something wrong with you. just because you see a guy happy about an accomplishment like beating his overal best time doesn't mean something is wrong. work on yourself a little.
I was expecting to see some disgusting display of egotism and hubris. This kid was excited that’s all. Totally deserves the win and to celebrate. Ridiculous ruling.
Same. This is so wrong
Unfortunately for him, he screwed up. Rule 2, Section 5, Article 1b: "A swimmer who changes lanes during a heat shall be disqualified." The heat hadn't finished. Stupid rule, that could be revised, but it is what it is. All sports have some unpopular rules but they certainly shouldn't be changed from play to play. It's the participants responsibility to be aware of them. Accountability...a value of the past?
I'm going to be honest and real when I say I genuinely wish there were more egotistical people winning and celebrating their victories. Getting really tired of the "humble and modest" people winning. It's just hating at that point
@@roberthedrick1397 That rule is clearly to punish disrupting swimmers that haven't finished. He crossed into a lane of a swimmer that already finished. We have brains, let's use some fucking logic and give the kid the fucking medal. Shit like this is fucking pathetic.
@@roberthedrick1397 The same "rules" that let men compete against and win every womens swimming competition? The ones that get changed for the convenience of the T community whenever possible? Yeah, these rules can be changed almost at will to suit whatever is convenient to certain groups. You could even add "At the discretion of the referee" to the rule and fix it immediately.
He was celebrating with his teammate and friend, who got 2nd. They were celebrating together, only in two lanes that had already finished. Bad rule, and shouldn't have been enforced.
That's why they have rules, so that things aren't open to interpretation.
@@Fred-vy1hm & @samgray49
If that is correct (finishing a race) - then why are "race car drivers" - who are at LEAST one lap behind, absolutely NOT ALLOWED to finish "their races"???
ONE of them answers, is a B/S answer - and thy are NEITHER of your ones eh?
@@Fred-vy1hmI get this, and it’s tricky, but I think we just have to think of the purpose of the rule. Why is it there? Probably to prevent swimmers from interrupting each other or getting in the way of a swimmer who has not finished. But if your buddy is next to you, and they are also finished, I feel that this does not actually go against the PURPOSE of the rule. But, it then becomes more open as you said. Regardless, I still think it’s pretty asinine.
I get rules, we just have to think of why they are there and what it is there to prevent. I speed a teeny bit at times, usually just 5 over at maximum, but I understand I shouldn’t speed egregiously because there speed was deemed the acceptable safe limit within the area. Yet, cops won’t pull you over for going 5 over- sure some of that is the radar being within a certain percentage of correctness but I don’t even see them try if you go 5-10 over, only in excess of that. To me, this is like being pulled over for going 5 over.
@@QuantumMecha Well said. However, in this case it wouldn't have even been going 5 over. It's more like a road has an arbitrary 20mph limit set on it because during Winter it ices over. Now this guy drives 25mph during a warm Summer day without any risk of an accident. To make matters worse, his car gets confiscated effective immediately so he even has to take a taxi ride to the nearest car dealership to buy a new car out of pocket.
Bro are you ever gunna make more borderlands videos I’ve been a fan since I was a child honestly can’t believe I stumbled across you here
The kid who took the win after the disqualification is the true definition of sportsmanship. “He beat me fair and square”
If only the same applied to Eurovision.
it was the saddest 1st place finish. He didn't even look like he won.
@@hkar4385 cuz he didnt
Yeah a very dissatisfying win that would forever be tainted.
Kid?
What a skilled ref, somehow manages to make people uninvolved in the sport viscerally angry at him
whats his name? and adress?
@@consumoholic not the best way to indicate your agreement here
Took the words right out of my mouth. I don't even watch Swimming at all. And I want to become involved in this sport just to support this young man and see Justice take place.
@@consumoholic You hear one swimming rule and youre ready to grab pitch forks. Bro it’s not that serious. Wild to me you make that joke but they’re actually receiving threats.
Facts
Swimmer: "YES!!! I WON!! MY BEST TIME EVER!!!"
Referee: "Fun detected. Engaging emergency protocols."
No: Rules violation detected; psychopathy inferred.
It was the right thing to do : when he lets himself fall in the other lane, he makes waves that can affect the chrono of others swimmers. Imagine the first F1 pilot who finishes the race starts to make a burnout and makes smoke al overt the finish line. That's the same thing, and that was the right decison to disqualify him.
@@Zuriki_ but look how small those waves are
@@Zuriki_ “”””waves””””, bro he literally broke a record, who cares????
@mickeymousesupremency149 Having worked in the mental health field in numerous positions for over 25 years, including direct client care, and without yet searching Google, I'd say it means presenting the personality disorders and conditions of a psychopath. Now I WILL look it up: "Psychopathy is a neuropsychiatric disorder marked by deficient emotional responses, lack of empathy, and poor behavioral controls, commonly resulting in persistent antisocial deviance and criminal behavior." Bit of advice: the ad hominem is the worst fallacy of all: It instantly demonstrates you have gifted your opponent a very satisfying win.
0:44 "Get on that lane line, son, you've earned it!"
This woman should've been the referee!
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That was ridiculous. If the swimmer was still swimming when he crossed into his lane, fine, but he was DONE. He “interfered” with nothing. Good on his teammate for standing by him and insisting he wouldn’t take the win under those circumstances. Someone with authority needs to strike that idiotic requirement from the rules. Outrageous.
Rule is rule.
@@RichyRich2607 ordinarily I would agree with you, but in this case, the rule needs to be re-examined. It was put in place to avoid swimmers from interfering in each other’s progress during the race, which he followed. To reprimand him for a post- race celebration is not what the rule was intended for
@@RichyRich2607this rule is dumb and pointless
@@RichyRich2607you must be fun to hang around with. 😒
@@American-g8z At least I wouldn't have been so stupid as to let myself be disqualified, especially as a professional. 😂👍🏻
Congrats to the runner up for being so candid about his thoughts on the disqualification and for pointing out the ruling was stupid and unfair.
THank you for being Candid you sounds so nice alol lol
I like him, it was a great speech.
He’s probably about to be disqualified too 💀
giving up the medal and podium is one thing, but I doubt he is going to give up his spot moving forward to the bigger things as the #1 qualifier in this
Pants in public is a stupid and unfair rule. Yet still has to be followed
@@Calibrex_Gaming yep. Good point. That’s exactly the same.
5:02 The last words spoken on the video you can hear the speaker starting to tear up as she's realizing the extent of the injustice; the unfairness and obvious wrongness of the decision. Or was that just me?
Heard it too
His teammate is a real one for voicing his opinion during the interview and refusing to take the podium.
Stand up young man right there.
Eh you guys give him too much credit, I'm sure he'd agree.
In the end, he took the podium
@@RobbyBabesI feel the same way, like it actually would have been wrong of his teammate to not say anything
True sportsmanship for sure.
He did not interfere with the other swimmer. The guy had already finished swimming. This needs to be protested! Stupid rule!
@@basnoordermeer4249gtfoh😂 you can’t even sit here and act like this wasn’t stupid asl jus stop.
I have to agree! Lloyd got this fair and square! Never liked that rule.
He crossed into an inactive lane (teammate was done swimming). So... how, exactly, is the rule "effective" in this case? Wouldn't it only be effective when applied to active lanes?@@basnoordermeer4249
@@basnoordermeer4249This is snowflake rule
@@basnoordermeer4249 yes, it was an incredibly stupid interpretation and use of that rule, and I say that as a swimming coach and ex pro swimmer. He didnt interfere with any other active swimmer, and the spirit of the rule is only about those. Such celebrations actually happen all the time even in Olympics without such stupid disqualifications happening. Mongoloid ref with a pathetic need to use their power, or someone with an agenda, vengence, or something.
Holy shit. This is crushing. What a perfect way to absolutely discourage future athletes from wanting to compete.
Why cause they can’t follow the rules…
@StefanRial he could have climb the pool and celebrate on land. Not a hard thing to do.
you mean like in football, where players get ejected from the game and fined for celebrating?
@StefanRial the Australian women's swim team beat the world record in the olympics and was disqualified for something the same....it resulted in the USA getting the gold metal. USA team didn't complain...hell they pointed it out....its heart breaking and a bit S*?t.
f8k the rules. that decision is a f8king joke and i hate swimming.@@rolandoramirez1193
That guy just woke up in the morning and said "let me ruin someone's day!"
Ye fr he’s like “oH lEt Me RuIn SoMeOnEs DaY bY nOt LeTtInG tHeM cElEbRaTe AfTeR wInNiNg” like shut the f**k up man let them have some fun Like that’s just BS
“Imma be the villain”
Crossing into the lane of someone who is still swimming would be a reasonable disqualification. But the swimmer in the next lane had finished also. This decision is totally bonkers.
That's what I'm saying... Dude was already done and even celebrated WITH him... WTF?!?
Yup. The referee is just a power obsessive human being. This decision tells a lot of his/her character.
Was this upheld?
That other finisher WAS HIS TEAMMATE
100%
Literally everyone is against that decision, the fact they kept the disqualification tells exactly who they are.
aleksandr karelin lost the olympic gold in wrestling on a technicality. learn to control your emotions
@@grawakendream8980thats the same as legally right but morally wrong
@@Altair2786 so now it's question of morality lol. ok
@@grawakendream8980we talking about swimming and homie brought up wrestling
@@grawakendream8980 So... having basic empathy and an oppinion in the matter is now being emotionally unstable? sure pal. I'd reccomend you to project elsewhere.
I can understand a penalty for being a sore winner, for gloating, for rubbing your win in an opponent's face, or being disruptive. That isn't what happened here. The judges are incredibly pathetic and immature.
Idk man, getting up on a lane line while competitors are still swimming is pretty disrespectful. I swam competitively (I was mediocre, not a record breaker), and we were always taught that when you finish, you stand and wait until everyone else finishes before you do anything else
@@Sklounst_Actualdude whos lane he entered was also finished genius
@@Sklounst_Actual AGREED! The judges were simply following the rule. Don't like the rules? Change them. The kid made a terrible mistake. He can learn to weave it into his life for the better if his coach and family help him. The lady announcer? She's wrong. You do NOT celebrate in someone else's lane when the race is still underway.
@@Sklounst_Actualmaking up rules that don’t exist AFTER someone has already broken the rule doesn’t mean anything. You people have mental issues
@@Sklounst_Actual Ur obviously crap at what you do if you believe what he did ruined the experience for the runner-up. If I was that athlete in second place, I would throw my medal into the guys lap and stated pubically that i'd came second. It isnt right and yet some people like you defend the stupid decision all because that would've hurt YOUR feelings.
The people in the comments defending the ruling would give up their first born to the forest for no reason other than it was a written law.
Licking the boot is one thing, swallowing it whole like this is crazy.
But the rule is there for a reason. Who knows, maybe a loser swimmer swam to another lane and tried to drown someone.
@@norabatungbacal6636 Fine, the rule's there for a reason, but context is everything. His friend was done swimming too.
Owen's teammate is the definition of a true friend.
straight men always supporting each other’s questionable decisions, all in favor of protecting their warped values of patriarchy and machismo… disgusting
He might be, but honestly what else should he have said in that situation?
@@maximilianmaier3950he should have said "yeah he truly deserved that disqualification. Thanks everyone I'm better than him."
well said! a true athlete and a true friend right there
@@dashinblu lol that would've been so funny.
But seriously, what he said was exactly what pretty much every other athlete would've said in that situation, whether they really mean it or not.
If you would say something like you deserved the win and you start celebrating, everyone would think you're an asshole and even people who are actually assholes know that.
Imagine someone tells you his girlfriend broke up and you had a crush on her for years, you still would not say "oh great, finally she's free and i can hit on her"
Disqualified for huggin his teammate when both were done swimming??? That’s ridiculous!!!
don't u just love america.
These crowd should have went after the judges
Other people were still swimming.
@@xiaokaSo what? That’s not th point, the rule is in place to stop finish swimmers from interfering with people still swimming. They were both done so the rule doesn’t apply. It’s literally his own teammate too
@@jurelrossanyonsmith-gk1pbbro what?
The #2 kid showed great courage of conviction.........a real team mate and a real man.
Absolutely. Impressive young man.
W mans
Dang it even sounds like the lady announcer was going to cry at the end
100%. He in protest stated he would not accept the default win, as Owen was the one who deserved the win.
ya man, imagine how embarrassing it is for the #2 swimmer, who didn't win #1 due to skill, and Owen didn't cheat nor disrupt.
Like anyone who is the #2 swimmer will know they didn't earn the medal, as witnessed LIVE on TV.
Judges clearly didn't think this through and made a haste, lack of human element, decision.
similar case of DQ on technicality but
Don Calhoun "He Made A Million Dollar Shot And They Didn't Want To Pay Him".
Even if "legally right", Michael Joran still felt its wrong.
2:28 you know it's bad when even the opponent is against it.
Yes opponent but they are teammates
My bad. I overlooked it, I thought that the unhappy one was at lane 6, not 5.
"i will not be standing up there" what a G.
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That’s the definition of a true friend.
"He will be getting that medal"
Not all heroes wear capes
who let a reddit moderator become a referee
LMAO true.
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Dude this is the best comment on TH-cam honestly this made me laugh!😂
😂😂
The most accurate comment ever. Reddit mods are truly awful
"Hey so even though you just beat your personal best by 4 seconds, won a conference championship, and punched a ticket to nationals, we couldn't help but notice that you got a little too happy about all that..."
Exactly we’re all human and it’s a stupid rule anyway!
@@billweeks9606I'm sure ladies are pleased around you
@@billweeks9606his excitement shown through him literally hopping over to celebrate with his teammate (who had already finished swimming). *Its a dumb rule.* Just accept it
@@billweeks9606it's also illegal to walk down the street with an ice cream cone in your back pocket in some states. Don't you think some rules are plain dumb?
@@billweeks9606 how bout you breakdown that rule for us? How tf did his action disrupt the race in anyway??
"He will be getting that medal"
The closest thing to "FU judges" without actually saying it.
Also an absolute daydream.
@@debrasnipes7431 Well, no. They are going to put that medal around his neck and he can easily take it off and give it to his teammate. Not super surprising that someone would do it, either. Who in hell wants a gold medal for a race in which everyone saw him finish second?
You just did! ...and rightfully so!
not second but first since one got disqualified . @@mrdevito2063
@@the_one_and_carpool the point went right over your head.
I thought the title was Swimmer gets disqualified for being uncut
I don't like to point fingers, but I have to question the competency of his swimming coach. This is *exactly* the sort of thing that should be caught *before* the competition, during Penis Inspection day.
Jewish swimming
Oh, so THAT'S why they don't want trans women in sports! /j
Respect to his teammate, that's a man with integrity.
@HelpMeplease991 you are some random teen who makes "music" and tryna get some attention for that cash by spamming comments with your alt account promoting your real account and trying to make your comment seem relevant by associating your comment with the video's topic
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Well his heart is in the right place but he was wrong to "defend" Lloyd. This implies that him being disqualified is at least potentially someone else's fault. That isn't the case. Lloyd disqualified himself and there is nothing that could be done about it. It is terrible and upsetting but, there is no injustice to right here.
@@joshuamorrison8332so I've seen a lot of people say that the Rule Lloyd broke is a discretionary rule which means the judges could've decided not to count it as in this case it didn't interfere with Ross who had already finished but they still decided to enforce the rule.
@@joshuamorrison8332 🤓
MAD respect to the guy who said he wouldn't take the winning spot.
This is disgusting. The judges have lost their humanity. God bless his teammate for his attitude and support.
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@@kristinleigh545 The referees literally had no other option as the rule mandates automatic dq for the swimmer. So maybe be angry at the swimmer for breaking rules and stop being disgusting.
@@lunalane Rules suck. Everyone knows that. Read the room.
@@lunalanethe only thing that is disgusting is your comment.
Props to the guy who said he wasn't gonna take the glory while they snatched the obvious winner's dreams away. The referees made a fool out of that event and themselves.
i wouldnt do that, and he never did, he won it fair and square.
@@goodbyemr.anderson5065what do you mean, I hope you aren’t saying he didn’t give it to him. Cause they both came out and said that it was given to him, it’s in his room. It went to the rightful winner
@@zealotdraws3017Your overuse of pronouns makes it impossible to follow what you are saying.
@@philipmccracken697 no it doesn't lol
@@philipmccracken6973rd grader reading comprehension skills
This deserved a warning not a “let’s break this young man’s spirit and rip first place out of his hands off of a technicality, even though he didn’t negatively impact anyone there”.
That’s just messed up. It’s so bad u can hear the woman’s voice start to shake at the end bc she was getting ready to cry for the boy.
I love the teammate reaction, I love how eloquent he was and just jumped right into the rant. In all those emotions he didn't hesitate and still was so polite despide being furious. That's a true sportsman!
@user-se3kj5ej4d stop spamming.
Bruh he was so pissed he was almost shaking
@user-se3kj5ej4d No she didn't
@user-se3kj5ej4d Let the swimmer truly inspire you and WORK HARD to get what you want rather than begging.
I didn't like the teammate's reaction at all. Seems like a young man who lacks respect for authorities. A spoilt lil brat in other words. Should be disqualified from any kind of sports events 😮😮😮😮😮😮
IF he'd crossed into a swimmer's lane who hadn't finished that ruling would be accurate. But no interference took place... WTF...
The judges are correct.
You don't go into another lane or get out until all swimmers have finished. That's the rule and he would be aware of it.
He screwed up.
@@fireskycam9889 read the rule book again
@@fireskycam9889 The rule might state for interference, but no other swimmer in that race would have been affected by what he was doing, the lane he fell into was finished too. I could understand if he was still swimming but should not have been a dq
@@fireskycam9889 Stop being a spaniel you're whole life. Rules are there to remedy problems - not to be blindly adhered to. The point of the rule is to stop interference between swimmers - yet he went into the lane of a FINISHED swimmer.
So the kid so much better than the others that he had the time to finish, realize he won, see he has an incredible time, go over a lane scream how happy proud he is before dropping in the other lane that already finished. BUT when he did there was still people not finished and that wen't agaisn't him?
He won. He did nothing wrong. Judge is a morron.
As an experienced Swim Coach myself I understand the rule, however if both swimmers have finished the race, referees need to apply some common sense. Every winner in swimming history celebrates like that! Pathetic officials.
Isn't other sanction possible for this mystake ? He broke le rule so sanction seem normal but discalification is just too high !
I have never seen two swimmers competing in the last heat and the rest were a lap behind +. what kind of beer league is that? there is no winner under FINA sitting a celebrating on lane until everyone is done
He broke the rules and got DQ. What's the problem?
@@DecodingWithJordan
Punishement is too strong regarding the fault.
@@Simon-if2hs but he broke the rules...
I bet that judge is the president of his HOA.
Not only was the other swimmer finished, he hugged him. He legitimately was happy for him, and he did not care.
I hate what happened here. What makes it worse, is that OTHER swimmers were not done. The guy who he hugged was absolutely done, but somewhere off camera there was someone still going, and that is why my man was diqualified.
@@youngredstreams2667 Probably one of the judge's relatives.
@@youngredstreams2667 So what? The rule is there to prevent obstruction to people who are still swimming and he didnt do that at all. He crossed the line to celebrate with a teammate, not to get in the way of anyone else
yea celebrated with his teammate? in his teammates lane? who had already finished swimming? Not affecting anyone else? lmao goofy @@edwardflint6714
Same judges who allowed a man to swim against women
The "winner" giving his commentary in the end is an absolute champ and probably speaks for all of us
His teammate was a class act with that " he will be getting that medal"
Totally agree
well I don't want to be that guy but.... I'm a terrible human being and even I wouldn't want that hunk of metal, It doesn't feel earned, where's the pride in it?
that alone is enough for both to earn
@@bungiecrimes7247 What do you mean
@@qqy He means the guy who came in second, he wouldn't want the medal because he didn't deserve it, Lloyd deserves it
03:40 this guy is a legend! We need more people like this!!
You can hear the emotion in the announcers voice "that young man deserved that win"
She even said she was gonna cry
@GregaJohn-gb6ev never hit the dislike button quicker
@GregaJohn-gb6evbeggars are corny.
@@rinethadweller its a bot lmao
@@rinethadwellerThey're also cheesy.
Ross is a real one. No hesitation, pure sportsmanship.
He'd probably given him the 1st place medal afterward
@@ArdeactHe actually stated that was what he was going to do..right there..in this video🙄
Ross is the boss
@@reddragonready for real. Lmao.
@reddragonready for someone acting so smart and condescending you should be knowledgeable enough to know that maybe he didn’t see that part? You know the part at the END? He could have typed that before the end of the video? I know mindblowing
Rule 2, Section 5, Article 1a. He DID NOT interfere with another swimmer.
Rule 2, Section 5, Article 1b. He WAS NOT an active swimmer who changed lanes during a heat. He had finished as did the other lane swimmer who had also finished. Both rules refer to active swimmers
He needs a lawyer and a Go Fund Me page
All the other people in the comment section who argue against the winner saying he just “broke the rules” need to see this
@@prabhav1788 well, the majority of people that say that just want to be different that's all
@@bernardkoey4087 yeah, kinda figured they were rage-baiting anyways
I don't know for the Go Fund me (??) but the lawyer, sure.
He's an NCAA kid in 2024. He doesn't need a GoFundMe now that he can get paid for this.
Why did the title have to specify that the swimmer is uncut?🗿
Respect for the "winner" for declaring he won't accept following the stupid disqualification into a lane which had also finished.
Disqualification is totally in line with the written rules.
The only person that did anything stupid is the swimmer who threw away a good run.
Also, anyone defending him and attacking the officials for doing their job.
Meaning you.
You are stupid.
Not only that but the lane he fell into was his own teammate that had also finished the race.
@@garystanfield2274
So it's fine to just run red lights as long as the lane is free?
Is that how you think the world works?
@@mitchtherevolution Read my comment, I'm sticking with it. whether you like it or not.
@@garystanfield2274
Read the rules, follow the rules or get disqualified like an idiot.
If you want to root for team stupid, then be my guest.
Huge respect to his teammate for standing up for him.
That would’ve been messed up if he didn’t
A redditor caught up in emotions he can’t control. “He will be getting that medal” lol ok I didn’t know he was in charge of the event
@@dh-uo4lt did you know boomers can steal your artwork, content, and ideas if you don’t have $100,000 to take to elaborate court? Yeah nobody cares anymore. We’re done with them forcing 9-5 dirt pay with $3500/mo to exist in a cubicle, being called lazy. We’re done being unable to defend ourselves, and having medals stolen over more nonsense “but technically the boomer rules matter and you don’t”. Maybe start questioning everything for once. What happened here is sickening and more proof of how corrupt the older generations have become. It’s become common place for them to rip off kids “to defend their honor system”. It’s corrupt, and power abuse. He obstructed nothing. More ok boomer rules shoved down everyone’s throat and they refuse to admit how wrong they are because the only thing that mattered here was the judges’ narcissistic ability to wield power. Envious egos watching attractive youthful athletes do something they can’t; nothing but miserable boomers plain as day and everyone can see it. We’re so sick of narcissism being boomer-splained away as “honor system and integrity of the very fabric of rules and systems themselves!” Nobody thinks swimming would self destruct if they had used common sense. It’s just evil abusers wielding mallets
@dh-uo4lt he's a pro athlete. you're the one talking online, not him.
@@jamescooke7243 the swimmer was pounding his chest like a low lQ
Takes me back to grade 7 when my teacher taught us about the "spirit of the rule" vs the "letter of the rule"
That's all well and good, but the letter of the rule does still matter.
@@BeverlyReeserin à such case, the spirit of the rule should supersede over the letter, as he did not bother his competitor , this is the spirit of rule.
@@dhnguyen68 I don't agree. I think the letter of the rule was more important in this case.
@@k.robertrichardson6779 in any cases, a worthy judge will assess the contextual situation and will take his/her conviction based on both the letter and the spirit of the law. If the judge considers the letter alone, it is the death of the law. The judge will not last long, will be dismissed sooner or later.
@@k.robertrichardson6779why?
Amazing coverage of the technicality disqualification and the swimmer guy's reaction to it. We get to watch frame for frame how unbridled joy turns to anxiousness to disbelief to outright terror and desperation upon the announcement. To a Sadist, that's a very arousing and rare TH-cam discovery.
I can see the rule being applied to crossing into a lane with a swimmer who’s actively racing, but he crossed into a persons lane who had already completed the race. He wasn’t disrupting anyone. He had won fairly and was celebrating with a fellow teammate on an amazing performance. He did not deserve to be disqualified.
I’m pretty sure the psychopathic ref followed the rules instead of the outcome
@@AmericaYaHalloHalloI’m pretty sure the psychopathic ref wanted to feel important, so he invented a technicality based on a vague ruleset. A literal injustice, and everyone knows it.
It's the rules he broke them so he lost😂wtf are you talking about. Oh well he won so he doesn't have to follow the rules. He messed other people still racing. It might have been over for him because he took his steroids. But the regular athletes were still swimming 🤫the teammate should have been disqualified as well for openly saying the rules are dumb
@@moneymanifestation9505 who’d he mess up, doll? 😂
@@moneymanifestation9505 "this kid won so he's taking steroids" LMAO WTF?? also, when he celebrated, the person's lane that he passed into was already finished racing. he didn't interfere with SHIT. did you watch the video??
Huge respect for his teammate standing up for him
Fr.
He still took the entry into the national championships 😂
@@oberpenneraffe.. I knew a tennis player who had a promising career ahead of her but just could not reach the top. She talked to a top coach who asked her what she would do if she saw her best friend on the ground, badly injured and begging for help. The woman said that she would stop and help. The coach told her that was the reason that she would never be a top flight player because they understand that the only thing they can think about is personal success. Nothing else mattered, and it appears that the team mate understood that the door of opportunity had opened for him.
@@johnvienta7622dang it’s rough but it makes perfect sense
@@johnvienta7622 Humility, honour, self accomplishment, sacrifice.
Those who reach the top by letting others fall are nothing more than winners. You have every right to do so, but achieving something at the detriment of someone else is not rewarding whatsoever. Literally takes the fun of it all too.
If you’re truly good at something, you’ll reach the top while making the ones who stand around you rise.
The purpose of this rule is clearly to deter swimmers from interfering with other swimmers still racing. Both of the swimmers involved here were obviously finished with the race.
Lloyd was disqualifed under rule 5.1b and has nothing to do with interference.
@@hottuna2006 It does bro, Section 5 Article 1 A-F are ALL labeled underneath "Interference" as a subsection to Fouls as a whole. It is quite literally only there so you don't unfairly interfere with other swimmers, going into a lane that has a swimmer that has already finished and is totally fine celebrating with you is not interference.
Could you please explain what the rule means instead of just sighting its number? I can't seem to find a list of rules for competitive swimming that has this numeration @@hottuna2006
@@chaotikkiller1617 not to mention the other swimmer was on his own team too
but the race wasn't over yet. You clearing don't understand racing, and I hope you try to race one day in any sport because its timeless tradition, that doesn't change for any generation, especially this one.
Judges are mad cause he is happier than they will ever be
He and his teammate were already done with the race when he entered the other lane. That rule was specifically written to prevent interference while the race is still in progress. But as those two were already finished, he caused no interference. Major props to his teammates for supporting him and refusing the automatic win.
also no interference with those still racing, nobody for obvious reason noticed him celebrating because they were swimming and racing
Rule 2, Section 5, Article 1b: "A swimmer who changes lanes during a heat shall be disqualified." The heat hadn't finished. Stupid rule, that could be revised, but it is what it is. All sports have some unpopular rules but they certainly shouldn't be changed from play to play. It's the participants responsibility to be aware of them. Accountability...a value of the past?
@@roberthedrick1397 you realise what judges exist for right? if all we did was take rules for a sport at face value, judges wouldnt even have a job. they are there to decide technicalities and nuance. the spirit of the rule not the words. the world isnt black and white. i can tell you never watch sports and just want to wag your finger to pad your ego. he didnt interfere with other lanes still in progress, therefore most judges would deem no interference and let it fly but i guess the judges this time were similar to you. egotistical with their head in the clouds.
@@newp0rtThat guy is just copy pasting that comment in threads. Clearly never achieved anything and is resorting to demeaning others to make himself feel better. Pathetic.
@@newp0rt This is even more egregious when you see that the teammate who technically won by default of the disqualification said he wouldn't accept his own "win" either and admitted the guy won fair and square. I don't watch sports though, so I don't know much about the nuances of this, but I would be inclined to believe a judge is there to make the calls in line with the spirit of the rule on a case by case basis.
"Interference with another swimmer" implies that you interfered with their qualifying time. Both swimmers were obviously finished at this point.
Rules exist.
So does logic @@planetvegan7843
@@planetvegan7843and so do stupid rules. This is one of them
@@planetvegan7843 only idiots follow idiotic rules
@@planetvegan7843they do exist, well done. Job done. Black and white thinking in place. Clearly you are a great team member in whatever job you do. Anyone would be happy to have you.
Its obviously not in the spirit of the rule to disqualify someone for "interfering with another swimmer" when there was no swimmer interfered with.
That isn't the rule. The rule is you can't enter another swimmer's lane while the race is not yet finished, period.
It's no different than the 100m in track and field. You leave your lane you're DQd, period. Makes no difference if you actually interfere with another runner or not.
@@Rowgue51you don’t get dq’d in track if, after you cross the finish line, you enter another lane lmao i ran track but keep talking from your couch buddy
@@Rowgue51 the video specifically stated the refs ruled they were disqualified for "interference with another swimmer, hence the quotes.
Regardless, if instead he was DQd because you can't enter another swimmers lane while the race isn't completely over, period, there's the argument that the race WAS completely over in both lanes in question, and none of his actions interfered with any lanes that still had a race going on.
Again regardless of any of that, I doubt the spirit of the rule was to prevent celebrating a record swim with the person beaide you, who is also finished. The intention of a rule/law can matter more than the actual wording.
@enny2218The rule is right there in the video description "A swimmer who changes lanes during a heat shall be disqualified". He changed lanes. The heat wasn't over. There's no talk of interference in the rule. I agree, bullshit rule, but if that's the rule it needs to be enforced... this guy won't be the first one to be disqualified for it... maybe he can be the last if the rule is changed though.
@@abhibeckertno it was over and he didn't interfere with anyone.
Its hilarious how the same people that wanna be stuck up about such bs, will gladly have a man race women and dominate them, sometimes even Injuring them in some sports where there's contact.
Tell me you didn’t want him to win, without telling me you didn’t want him to win 😂
"He WILL be getting that medal" what a friend good for him
Yeah it's a nice touch but unfortunately the official results will show that the medal is not his and that's all people will look at. Shame
@user-se3kj5ej4d womp womp 🤡
@user-se3kj5ej4d what?? shamelessly self promoting with an unrelated comment. There are better ways to reach people.
Straight up Battle Buddy.
@@ALBINO1D It's not even a real user. Just a farm bot with stolen content. Don't waste your time lol
Ok but Lloyds teammate here is a real one, refusing to take his position as first place and defending Lloyd with all he had.
Would Vegeta want to beat Goku because of a "technicality"?
@Dontlookmyplaylist00 most sane bot:
You're a nut case!@Dontlookmyplaylist00
They'll DQ him for protesting.
referee needs fired, period. they can interpret rules in other sports they can do it here too. Fire that pos.
For the teammate defending that excellent swimmer, that is a hell of a good example of sportsmanship.
I wouldn’t wanna win that way, even it means gold medal and higher price. Especially if it’s our own friend that we know so well
He's sticking up for his teammate.
If it were a guy from another team, *then* it would've been a "hell of a good example of sportsmanship".
He's a great white knight lol
he would be hated if he didn't react the way he did
Outstanding sportsmanship.
"Why does no one compete in our swimming competition anymore?"
Swimmer: So happy I won!
Referee: My happiness senses is tingling. You're DISQUALIFIED!
Yeah, who needs rules!?
@@mintymus We need rules, but rules need to be applied in a logical way. Yes, he indeed broke the rule, but it didn't affect the competition itself nor the performance of the rest of the swimmers.
@@mintymuswhat he did would not have ruined it for the other swimmers
Guarantee you, it was a liberal.
@@argent5196 Rules are rules.
how miserable do you have to be to disqualify a kid for celebrating WITH his team mate AFTER the team mate already finished too! there was no “interference”. he made HISTORY.
a rule is a rule. not that hard to follow. cross the lane after everyone leaves. that's totally fine.
@@noob.168 do you want the officials number? I think he is looking for boot lickers.
@@noob.168 bootlicker alert
@@noob.168you must be fun at parties
@@noob.168 You must be fun to hang around
His teammate is such a chad on making that bold stand against that unfair disqualification.
@user-se3kj5ej4d I am just a fish
@user-se3kj5ej4d buhu
@user-se3kj5ej4dNo. No more content creators! Get a job.
Rules is rules my dear
@@billbailey7193 Discretion of the judge. He was just a dick
Even if they decide (under public pressure) to give him back his winning, it's way too late. They've taken away his genuine excitement and happiness. Unbelievable!
I feel so bad for Lloyd. He was at his biggest high AND his lowest low in such a short amount of time. I can’t imagine the anguish ,,,
Nothing those judges do can ever bring that moment back for him. They need to be fired
@HelpMeplease991go watch Darksydephil. He has tips on how to get people to give you things with very little effort.
Literally breaking a massive record in his senior year of college swimming in a really intense long-distance swim. That was such an unnecessary call for an ambiguous rule that doesn't seem to apply to what we all see here. That must have been soul crushing. But we all know he smashed that record and even though it is too late it will be good if they reverse that call and he gets his official record.
soft disagree
hard disagree, not like the excitement is the main thing here and he would regain some excitement and faith in common decency
He absolutely did Not "Interfere with an ongoing race".The lane he went into was his Teammate's and He'd Finished. This is sickening. Years of hard work taken for a nonsense call. They Must reinstate his Record time, and allow him to continue his career in the Nationals as He Earned.
It's like they made the call out of pure spite.
Yeah they should be make a rule for every case...
He egregiously went into another player's lane and was rightfully disqualified. I would have banned him for the rest of the year for such a shocking display of behavior.
lol you troll@@LHS427
@@LHS427bait
“Erm ackshually you’re disqualified now🤓”
His team mate is a legend for standing up and defending his team mate.
I wished I could see how he stayed on podium for the second, leaving the top empty. Did that happen?
His teammate did what he was supposed to do.
Class act.
Using the word legend loosely… I bet you call your mom a legend for her driving you to school.
@@sforza209those are 2 complete different scenario’s
He crossed the lane to a teammate who was already finished.
To celebrate.
That is the dumbest ruling use on a situation calling for it ever.
The kid trained a very long time for that event. Then to take it from him with such reasoning?
Uncalled for. Very unsportsmanlike as a judge. That judge or judges should be banned from these events for that call.
This needs to be overturned.
Ten four!
rules are rules
@@AiVaultGuyRules are made for a reason, to blindly follow them is ignorant at best. Context is very important
@@AiVaultGuy and he didn’t break any rules as he didn’t interfere with the other swimmer’s race. both swimmers were done when he crossed into the other lane
@@gonnn777F "nO gUyS, yOu DoN't uNdErStAnD. We sHoUlD AlL jUsT FoLlOw tHe RuLeS eVeN WhEn tHeY DoN't mAkE SeNsE tO bE PuT iNtO eFfEcT"
There is such a thing as the spirit of the rule. The spirit of the rule is crossing over into another competitor's lane who is still swimming, NOT the lane where your teammate is done swimming.
Exactly - the rule actually references "interference" with another swimmer. I bet the turd who called him on this rule was peeing his panties to get to someone and get this enforced.
This is it right here 💡
I commented the same thing and then saw yours. You beat me to it. But, you're exactly right. They ignored the spirit to follow the letter, missing the entire point of the rule. So dumb.
WHy I hate competitive sports. People being a-holes.
no
Curious child watching:
“….Daddy, I thought you told us that working hard and following your passion will get fantastic results worth celebrating…?”
Father:
“………..”
"lane 4 was disqualified for crossing into another competitor's lane before finishing"
my brother in christ he was done swimming
Some people were like "but the others weren't done swimming" like my brother in christ how would those little splashes he made "interfere" with the others
before the race itself was finished.. there were other swimmer still racing... but still a stupid decision in this case but rule is rule i guess wcy
@@ComicallyStupid-t9y those are the rules. He knows them.
Rules are Rules
@@ComicallyStupid-t9y That's not the point, but nice try.
This is some Umbridge level bs. How spiteful do you have to be to rob someone of their greatest achievement for virtually no reason?
Hilarious that Umbridge is so intolerable she gets her own tier of bullshittery
Someone got bullied as a kid and just couldn't let it go. Huge loser.
@@thefootballer777 Bro she is a menace, no level of BS is on par with hers 🤣
There is a reason. Nobody watches this sport, but this video has 4M views.
@@Rinshun_it's blowing up fast too, was 3.8M just a few hours ago!
As a swimmer, I always knew this rule. We had to wait for the last swimmer to finish before crossing into other lanes to congratulate the winner or a teammate... that being said, as long as a swimmer doesn't cross into an active lane, IT SHOULDN'T MATTER.
You'll break the buoy line. He's dumb. He deserved to be disqualified......you can't break things.
@sasquatchrosefarts9131 they buoy line was fine dumbshit. No he didn't deserve to be disqualified.
@@sasquatchrosefartsdid he break it though? No, he wasn't even close. Stop yapping
@sasquatchrosefarts9131 at practice, we would have to run sprints and do pushups if we were caught going over a lane line... and being tasked with restringing the line through the rings.
This DQ had nothing to do with the lane line, it would have been the same if he swam under it.
@@sasquatchrosefartsworst post ever...you must be a sore looser, because a winner would not have said what you did
2:32 shes enjoying the drama lmao
Women
What’s her @?
The officials rendering this decision show us how pathetic some people can become when given power.
It is sad but other competitors can appel tge rule he broke and eventually still be eliminated. So it is bound to happen anyway
The USSR unfairly ruled, repeatedly, all during one year, that the opponents were disqualified, and in Australia’s case, after setting a record. They found loopholes in the rules, and they took advantage of them. This is the exact same sorta crap… the rules were changed after that year, and they should be changed again here.
10000%%%
@@mindofvirtuoso3358what rule did he break?
Yeah; I'm glad your approach isn't being too mean to the referees specifically. It's just too easy to be pathetic with power and it sucks.
Wow, this is truly disappointing, imagine getting your best time and accomplishing something you train so hard for after 14 minutes of intense swimming and you get it all taken away because you celebrated with your friend? It didn't impede other active swimmers in any way, this is a serious lapse in judgement by the referees and I really feel for Owen here
Indeed it quite unbelievable and on the one hand senseless. However, he was not disqualified for celebrating. He was disqualified for crossing his lane while the race was not finished. The question is: what do the rules say? And if you had to write the rules, at what point in time do you consider crossing the lanes as acceptable/ unacceptable? For sure one cannot blame officials for following the rules, nor can you blame whoever wrote the rules for not writing a chapter about such a basic rule. After all the race is not over until the last person crosses the line: it is a form of respect.
Did the decision stand?
Hi!
Yeah
@@pierrebugeja9308 doesn't effect any racers, you know why the rule was made, we all know why the rule was made, the swimmer did nothing overly wrong
I can literally feel the anger as his teamate is speaking
@GregaJohn-gb6evcry and I'll think about it
Prop's to the teammate for sticking up to what's right! That was a sad ruling
Judge: Goood goood! I can _feeel_ your anger.
wow you must be psychic
@@AdamFontenet-jf3qpare you stupid or something, that swim punched his ticket to the ncaa natty
This is so stupid, his teammate was literally done with his laps! What interference could there possibly be?!
I have so much respect for the guy that came in 2nd to be such a good teammate and friend like that
Definitely incredible teammates sportsmanship. The right thing to do
Heat of the moment. Actually he'll regret that later. He'll wish he'd yelled "THERY'RE NOT FINISHED" to his buddy. One of them or another buddy has already learned this rule probably in grade school.
Team mate knew he was gonna go from 2nd to 1st.
😃👍 😄 😆 😅 🤣
It also plays a role in that the number 2 is now the number 1
As an attorney, I try to look not only at the law but the purpose of the law. Here, the rule makes sense. But, the application of the rule does not. It's impossible to interfere with a swimmer who has already completed the race. And one could easily argue that once a swimmer has completed his race, he can not "change" lanes as his race is over. So, the only issue on the application of the rule is whether the winner somehow "interfered" with someone who was still swimming. He did not. Very few people finish so far ahead of the other swimmers that this type of scenario is rarely even possible. Decision makers should have more insight than those who made this one. Had the official not made the call, none of the other coaches would have protested. So, obviously no one else had an issue.
agree
“but he broke the rule” he didnt break the rule since the other swimmer already finished, its like saying you cant celebrate with your friend that joined you in the race and is next to you because you are interfering with them
Hi
Rule is rule.
@@RichyRich2607yeah if you're a robot with no emotions or critical thinking skills
Should only be considered a violation if the lane being entered is still unfinished.
Exactly
Exactly my thoughts!
too true
The problem is probably not the sport and the rules. The problem are the people of the past, who exploited the non existence of such rules. That is why we put rules like these in place and we have to live with it.
right?! like they said that he went in before lane 5 finished but he literally didn't 💀
Okay so my brain read the title as "swimmer gets disqualified for being uncut"
Which, I'm gonna be honest, would make for a good parody video on a different kind of site.
I can't believe judges did this and stuck to this decision. That so stupid to disqualify an athlete like that. He didn't interfere with anybody, his teammate had already finished his race, that "during a heat" part of the rule was completely dismissed somehow. So stupid, unreasonable and downright cruel thing to do. Shame on those judges.
Heat was still on as the other competitors were not done.
@@panoramlx it was over for his teammate, whose lane he crossed. how on earth did he interfere with other swimmers?
@@sekatort Unfortunately, the rules apply to all heats. Not just adjacent lanes.
@@panoramlx The Rules as they are presented in the description of the video:
- Rule 2, Section 5, Article 1a: "Any competitor who interferes with another swimmer during a race shall be disqualified from that race, subject to the discretion of the referee..."
He did not interfere with another competing swimmer. His teammate had finished his race, so Owen did not cause any problems to him when he was racing.
- Rule 2, Section 5, Article 1b: "A swimmer who changes lanes during a heat shall be disqualified."
Ambiguous. If you take "heat" as a race which ends when every athlete has finished their swim, then rule applies. However, both swimmers in those 2 lanes had already finished their races, which means the heat for them was over. They were no longer a part of the heat.
But the thing is, instead of blindly following the rules, especially when they're not oh so clear, you should rely on the initial intent that rules were written for, and basic reason, after all. Many times rules are not perfect - in the end they are written by people and could be very flawed
@@sekatort The race was not over. Also, look up the definition of "interfere"
Years ago I saw a cross country race winner get DQed for finishing a race with one shoe! Lost the other in the mud! Rule said you had to have proper foot ware. Total bs.
If anything having just one shoe was a handicap and helped the other runners
that one I understand, as others tied their shoes properly. if it came off while running a multitude of issues could have caused it. someone who kept their shoe on should win.
@@Brainjoy01 the guy who lost his shoe tied it properly. Things can work loose even if you do everything correctly. Even if you eat healthy food and refuse to drink and smoke you can still get cancer. I don't think it's right to tell a cancer victim that they got sick because something they did or didn't do when they led a healthy lifestyle
@@Brainjoy01you also going to revoke Kipchoge’s Berlin marathon win because his insoles came out?
@@Vynndii depends on what the rules state, they exist for a reason and that actually makes the game more fun considering it’s another thing to think about. you can take breaks during marathons and still win, that’s why there are teams and back up pairs of shoes. I don’t know when he lost the insoles
He didn’t get it. His competitors didn’t get it. The crowd didn’t get it. The TV reporters didn’t get it. This really isolates the judges.
Anyone with a brain got it. Don't break the rules.
@@user-fh2vx3hd6c bet you're fun at parties
@@user-fh2vx3hd6c Wow. I'm sorry officer.
@@user-fh2vx3hd6c What rule did he break? obviously no one understood
@@user-fh2vx3hd6c Anyone with a real brain understands that you can't interfere with a another swimmer that has already finished the race, plus it was his TEAMMATE, it's not like he fell into a random competitors lane while they were still racing, that would have been uncalled for
That rule is the equivalent of a baseball player celebrating a home run by giving someone running to the plate behind him a high five after he goes over the plate, and getting the homerun disqualified because of it, it makes no sense and everyone knows it
This is outrageous. !!
Who comes out with these rules?
A disqualification for that?
Why didn't people get up and leave in protest? 😡💯
Cant be crossing lanes when race is still on
the second swimmer is such a class act
It's also his teammate
@@H.EL-Othemany yeah, everyone's aware of that.
@@gregengel1616 not me
@@H.EL-Othemanyirrelevant, he was declared the winner but denied it. he could’ve easily accepted it
@@gregengel1616Not true and you’re being a dick.
"Let's ruin someone's career for the jokes"
@@joris5429 ferme ta gueule, ne refais pas le monde à ta façon personne ne réagit comme ça c'est ridicule
@@joris5429what ?
@@joris5429what are you yapping about?
The game is rigged
National Soft Athletic Association
Ok who allowed an NFL Referee be a judge on the swim meet 😂
As a swimmer in high school and college and after watching this I find it absolutely insane. Seriously dumb. These refs imo should have used more discretion based on what we saw happen but they made that call without wasting any time. The lane he went into was also complete. This felt like a biased call by a ref that just doesn't like him and/or their team or was just having a power trip. This could have been a warning. Regardless we all saw he broke a record and set one hell of a time for a 1650y. It is NCAA College level rules and I assume a D1 team but I still think the call is harsh for what actually happened and didn't have to be made. It wasn't Nationals or the Olympics. He didn't actually jump in a lane but just kind of tumbled in which was his teammates lane who had also already finished.
He should have stayed in his lane. He was stupid.
@HelpMeplease991
You're annoying, please stop. You don't need a camera, you need an education.
@HelpMeplease991Liar
he was excited, that was his teammate and both had finished. It interfered with nothing. 1650y is a big deal to make records, that's a long event. Reminds me of when I swam in Rhode Island, the officials absolutely hated life. I got yelled at and threatened for "jumping" in the warmup lane when I simply dropped in.@@jfearless3420
@@jfearless3420it was emotion, he just won after training so hard for years, plus, his friend had already finished, so it really doesn’t make sense
When I clicked this I expected him to get disqualified for showing out and being obnoxious. This is so much worse, that poor young man wasn’t being obnoxious at all, the judges were in my opinion
My heart just sank for him. I know what its like to have something you worked so hard for taken from you in an instant. Its gut wrenching and it can make anyone break down and cry. I'm not a very emotional person but when it happened to me I bawled my eyes out in front of everyone.
@@jettthewolf887 those judges definitely hate their life
@jettthewolf887 heheh "sank"
It is understandable that you cant cross the lane when swimming but when he finished he saw his teammate was too and crossed the lane. In what way could that affect the race, his teammate was already done and his time was already on the books. How could the referees do that, that is just so rude and I can't imagine how Lloyd would have felt.
I completely agree with you. My guess is that he maybe made some disturbance with the water flow or something like that, but if that was the reason, that would be the most outragous disqualification in history, since the change is so minimal. But that's just my guess I don't think he actually was DQ'd because of that
hello, current swimmer here. located in the rules of USA swimming, (where this took place) you are NOT allowed to interfere with another swimmer until the race is over. (usually signaled by a whistle) it doesn’t matter if the person next to you has finished.
@@cristianaxx The race is literally over when the person finishes it.
@TripmineProductions doesn’t matter. still against the rules
@@cristianaxx?
man, even the reporter at the end was tearing up..
"interference with another swimmer."? the other swimmer was already finished. What an absurd rule, and for a referee to invoke this rule in these circumstances, he should not be a referee.
I agree with you. His lane mate was no longer swimming. He was at the wall and turned around. This is ridiculous.
Too many people dont take rules as a guideline but instead take them as a law. You need to be aware of when a rule just doesn't apply. This is one of those moments.
Exactly, and they do this all the time in the Olympics too.
Who did he interfere with? Show me. I didn’t see anything.
tough its his own fault
it was literally his teammate too and they had BOTH finished the race, his teammate was even celebrating with him. this league needs new judges. jeez.
@user-se3kj5ej4d Beg elsewhere.
@user-se3kj5ej4d insane cap
@user-se3kj5ej4dshut up bot
@user-se3kj5ej4dyour parents never said that
Right??? It’s some stupid technicality that was more than likely a judgement call. I can’t believe they wouldn’t give him the benefit of the doubt. I cannot imagine working that hard, for so long, only for the judges to destroy his accomplishments for seemingly no good reason.
That’s like a dick move you’d expect from a school PE teacher who always had a grudge against you during the entire school year for no reason.
@@lopez8277is your brain dented?
@@lopez8277 grow up
@@lopez8277 >> that would be cheating
How is celebrating with his teammate, who had ALSO completed the race, even _slightly_ cheating?
True@@mbg4681
@@lopez8277How stupid are you??
I played soccer almost all my life, touching a ball is so different compared to cheering your win with your teammate that already finished the swim as well.
You must have a rough life for being so cruel. Touching a ball is literally everything against soccer. Since you can only use your feet😭😭💀