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Product: ATOMSTACK M4 Fiber Laser Engraver
Original Price：$1,699.99 Promo Price：$1,274.99
Promo Time：11/30/22 5:00 AM-12/25/22 11:59 PM Warehouse：FBA
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Software Installation Tutorial: www.atomstack.com/m4837
🔷 ABOUT SAMCRAFT 🔷
Samcraft is a channel all about educating, inspiring, motivating, encouraging, and sharing the things I've learned since starting my own small business in 2018.
Today on Samcraft I put the new Atomstack M4 Laser Engraver to the test. It is advertised as a metal engraver, but can it really engrave into metal? Let's find out!
🔷 VIDEO CHAPTERS 🔷
0:00 - Introduction
1:05 - Tech Specs
1:35 - Assembly
2:04 - Touring the Exterior
2:57 - What is a Galvo Laser?
3:26 - Build & Quality Issues of the ATOMSTACK M4
4:25 - How to Adjust the Focusing Lasers
5:07 - Handheld Engraving with the ATOMSTACK M4
6:49 - Is the ATOMSTACK M4 Lightburn Compatible?
7:38 - Taking the ATOMSTACK M4 to LaserTown
9:12 - SeaCAD / BSL CAD Software Tutorial & Usage Tips
13:45 - Real Time Engraving on Metal
14:25 - Importing Vectors / DXF Files into SeaCAD / BSL CAD
16:56 - Engraving Painted Aluminum
17:28 - Engraving Slate Drink Coasters with the ATOMSTACK M4
21:15 - Testing Engraving Metals with the ATOMSTACK M4
21:44 - Engraving Copper
22:22 - Engraving Brass
22:46 - Engraving Aluminum
23:08 - Engraving Terracotta and Stone
23:21 - Engraving Wood, Cork, and Leather
23:40 - Engraving Plastic
23:46 - Engraving an Anodized Aluminum Flashlight in Real Time
24:10 - Engraving Test Results on Various Materials
25:10 - How Powerful is the ATOMSTACK M4?
26:25 - Easy Gifts Made with the ATOMSTACK M4
27:28 - It Engraves Stainless Steel!
28:09 - Is this Really a Fiber Laser?
29:16 - Pros and Cons of the ATOMSTACK M4
30:15 - Links Below & Thanks for Watching!
#laserengraving #m4 #samcraft
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Very cool! Thanks for showing us this laser!
Great review. I plan on picking this laser up for my bladesmithing. Thanks again!!
sweet little laser ~ enjoying your shop! thank you Sam & fam!
Glad you enjoy it!
Pretty cool Sam, can't wait to see what you make with it
Sam, Thanks for the video. I have absolutely no experience with any laser engravers or cutters. This gives me all kinds of ideas, and just something more for me to research with a possibility of buying sometime in the future (when we are actually living at our new property). I have years of experience with cad programs, mostly autocad, so hopefully some of the stuff I have access to for dxf files could help. Thanks again for the video, and hoping you all have a Merry Christmas!
Happy to be of help in any way! Merry Christmas to you too!
Nice, honest review. Looking forward to your future projects with this non-fiber laser.
You and me both!
Slate looks great when you hit it with some spray clear coat first, then engrave, makes a very nice contrast
Thank you for sharing your awesome review of this product with us today. Stay warm, safe, happy and healthy. From Henrico County Virginia
Hi Sam, nice to see more videos coming. I found this really interesting then all your content is interesting.
You could not ask for more from this review with the content covered. An excellent laser but as you say there are some limitations. The way to solve the limitations is as you showed be creative around that.
Nice review
I like that laser.
Y’all have a Very Merry Christmas and A Happy New Year 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Thanks! You too!
The flashlight was definitely a home run.
Good, and thorough review. The small coverage of 70mm is a bit small, but what a compact unit that will fit in the corner of any workspace.
Great video. Thanks for doing an in-depth review and calling out the "fiber laser" marketing. I think I'll pick one up for engraving small bronze blanks.
Great video, a clear, detailed and fair/honest take on the product.
I’m curious how much material is actually removed - how much relief is there (etc, how deep is the cut) on say the slate coaster after all the passes? Ditto the metals after 4 passes?
A side note: I wonder if it would be slightly faster dialing down the speed a bit more on materials, rather than taking two or 4 passes? I’m thinking that multiple passes mean that the metal surface completely cools before the laser comes around again for the next pass. I wonder if you could do copper in 1 pass if you slowed the laser down to say 80 - 100 mm/s? 4x slower would be ~63 mm/s, but I’m thinking that you might not need 4x the time if it was just heating the spot all in one go, rather than letting it cool fully before the next pass comes along? Probably not a significant difference in overall production time, but I’m curious how it would work out.
That is a really cool machine. I am sure you will get a lot of work out of it. Merry Christmas to you and your family..
Thanks, you too!
Love your videos and enjoy watching them every time they come on. May the Lord bless and protect you and your family. Have a wonderful holidays
Thank you! You too!
Sam, props to you on saying that the M4 is NOT a fiber laser, even though everywhere on Aliexpress this thing is named as a fiber laser. Is that an issue to me? Hell no, it works, it's portable, it does what it's meant to. I'm saving money to buy that beauty and every single tool that I have (either on my personal workshop or at the company that I work) is going to be marked. Not only that, the amount of things that can be custom made with this tool is out of the charts. Currently, the amount of videos on this machine is very sparse, and yours did it justice, thanks for the content.
Thank you, I really tried my best to be 100% honest and think of this machine as a customer would vs. an advertiser. :)
Miss Angela and the boys, we need her to do a cooking show or something so we can see her too. Hope your feet are doing better!
Hey, so is this laser a fiber or just a galvo diode?
A fiber laser is comprised of diode lasers passing through a fiber optic cable and manipulated by a galvo system.
@@TLAS Wikipedia: "A fiber laser (or fibre laser in British English) is a laser in which the active gain medium is an optical fiber doped with rare-earth elements such as erbium, ytterbium, neodymium, dysprosium, praseodymium, thulium and holmium. " So, a fiber laser is NOT a diode laser.
Great video Sam. Thanks!
My pleasure!
This would be beautiful for custom design 🖊 pens
Totally would!
I like this engraver a lot. Hopefully Lightburn will support it soon.
I hope so, too.. even though I've become accustomed to the SeaCAD I look forward to having everything in Lightburn. :)
WOW what an awesome laser.😊
Nice review. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Woo-hoo...........That was a well done video. Cool Machine. You're going to have some fun with that!
Tks for the great review. You'd think it would engrave on varnished wood? And does it do anything on glass/ceramic? Tks.
Great video. Would like to see you engrave a photo on metal and stone.
Nice demo of the engravers abilities and weaknesses. I think you might experiment with really fine engraving images, (can it do images?) is to place a fan next to it to blow away the smoke as it engraves. The smoke, as little as there is, interferes with the laser just a bit. I wonder if that would improve the engraving any.
Speaking of the many kinds of smoke generated there I hope you are venting it to the outside or into a HEPA filter No doubt that some of that could give you lung disease.
Great review. I have been keeping an eye on the M4 for a while now, but just haven't seen a review that covered all of my questions. Until Now !! .. After watching this, I am happy to know that it will do all the materials that my diode laser will not do. Your review pushed me over the tipping point on getting one. Until I saw the price :( ... The link you provided shows (US) $1699 + shipping, but here in Australia the M4 on Amazon is selling for $3000+ ... The M4 on Aliexpress is going for around $2000 (AU), but then I would put the extra towards a full blown 50w Fiber Laser with multiple lenz from 75 - 300mm from Alliexpress.
I would be interested to see how this stacks up against the IR head they have out for the A20.
😃👍Danke für das Video
Ist für mich auch interessant
Besonders das Metall geht
Pretty good review. Might just have to get one of these soon... hehehehe
Appreciate your honest review Sam. Really like this M4 Laser Engraver.
Any word yet Lightburn supporting this M4 "Mighty" machine?
I have the Mr Carve M1, ComMarker 20w Fiber, and a Omtech 100w MOPA Fiber. I backed the Mr Carve on Kickstarter, it was my first 1064nm laser. To be clear, you are correct, the AtomStack isn't a fiber laser. It is a 2w 1064nm (DPSS) diode attached to a galvo head. The Mr Carve shipped with SeaCAD as well. There is a steep learning curve when it comes to using SeaCAD and EZCad, they are very similar in operation. Mr Carve was first out of the gate with a 1064 Galvo, this looks very similar to Mr Carve M2. I would bet that they share practically everything, minus the shell. The Atomstack looks identical to the Enjoywood M4. However, even though this isn't a fiber laser, it is using traditional fiber laser type software. I would suggest people be educated on the software before jumping into the 1064 Galvo and or Fiber lasers.
Sam, great video sir! I like that laser. I just have to comgrow 10w and it does pretty well with Lightburn. Have you seen the last update for LightBurn. I think 1.3.0. that may what you're looking for. I hope so. Thanks for the great video. God bless!
Very thorough review, thank you. Is there a system like this for engraving wood? I like the no gantry and small footprint. I'm a wood worker and I currently use a branding iron and can never get consistent results on small objects. Like my working hand logo.
Awesome machine, and good review, shame glass wasn't included. I want one, but way out of my price range though as I just mess about with laser engraving.
Sir, cool content great attitude easy to understand very awesome channel.
Way beyond my pay grade😂
Merry Christmas to you and yours ❤🌲❄
Mine too if I didn't have this channel! I'm blessed to have the opportunity to show off such items on this channel and always strive to give honest, reliable information to uphold my end of the bargain to viewers who come here to learn or trust what I say. :)
A thought comes to mind. Once Lightburn will drive this engraver, by adding a reasonably accurate X-Y stage, you could layout a checkerboard type layout of squares and engrave each square from a different layer. Jus a thought 🧐
Would you recommend this over the LaserPecker?
When cranking that height adjustment, Would it help to support under the moving part to alleviate the crunchy noise of the gear?
Ya know all those drill bits and drivers ya get where once it's out of the canister it came in you have to put a mic on to see what size they are? This would be fantastic just for a guy/gal who wanted to label all those for him/her self.
NICE hat Sam. If it weren't for that really small area for engraving ... However if you don't have to reposition to fit the entire pattern in it.. great! As for that 5 watt limit ... a larger engraving region with a larger wattage of say 10 or 20 watt.... I believe the marriage of 5 watts and limited region is pretty much perfect but being able to enlarge the limits probably would be problematic for this type of lens/laser combo. Hang on - it does have its application niche.
Good Video and useful content
Thanks a lot!
I was looking for a pair of glasses- I just ordered mine!
I've been very happy with the Free Mascott ones I have.
stock up on those flashlights I'm gonna need a bunch for next years Christmas... I have I think 20 or even more grands and great nieces and nephews I can get these for...
Sam, that's cool
So for repeative stuff is it see LB does Galvos now. Have you tried it with this one yet ? If so how'd it do ? Thanks. I ordered one !
The definition of a fiber laser is the laser used a doped fiber as the gain medium. It *could* be a fiber laser, the spool of gain fiber would be inside the box but the chances of that are slim to none. It is most likely just a more generic DPSS laser, possibly using some passive q-switching to get the high peak power, unless there is a frequency setting some place.
That laser is a DPSS (Diode Pumped Solid State) machine.
Has a diode pumped passive YAG q switch that puts out 15KW (microsecond) pulses that are 1024nm.
For the price point, about 1/4 of a 20W-30W fiber, it's not a terrible deal but it is, as you say, pretty low power and has a small working area.
Something for you to try:
Defocus upward (away from the work surface not toward it) between 1-4 millimeters, with an actual fiber laser you can get colors on metal and enhanced engraving depending on what you want to do.
Been waiting on you to review this one, as I've been looking at something to mark metals with. I'm sure lightburn will have it incorporated in the software before too long, they're really good with their support. The only thing I see on this that I'm not terribly happy with is the working size, 70mm is pretty small, I'll just have to see what size things I'm really going to work with and go from there. I'm pretty sure the Atomstack would have issues actually cutting metals, where a proper fiber laser can actually do that (at least from my research anyway, I don't have any practical experience with fiber/galvo yet). Still, the detail you got out of this thing on your examples is outstanding.. Wonder how long it'll be before someone figures out how to use this with a rotary, lol.
My opinion is that it is made to engrave jewelry and other small material
Wouldldn't you use some type of anchor to hold your piece flat to the surface so it is level and won't move with the expanchion heat from the workings of machine?
Good video! I’ve watched quite a few of yours but never subscribed. Let me fix that.. I’m confident lightburn will work with it soon. No insider info, just my thoughts. I was going to ask about engraving on hand tools/wrenches, but saw you had already answered that question. Thanks for these informative videos!
Oh wow, how did I miss the end of the video the first time through? That impact driver looks good!
It seems cool, and for the price much closer than Fibre laser but fibre is going to be better..... once light burn hits it.... that will be a true game changer
Agreed, all around. :)
You be better off with the Laser Pecker 3, it has a higher powered laser and a slightly bigger work area and a crazy cool rotary/roller accessory :)
Sam, what was the depth of the engraving for Anodized Aluminum?
1:04: ⚙️ Compact and powerful Atomstack M4 laser engraver with 5W laser, 1064nm wavelength, and versatile desktop or handheld use.
3:34: ⚙️ Issues with machine operation and limited flexibility in positioning piece, but includes useful features like threaded inserts and machine screws.
6:48: 🔍 Limitations of the laser engraver software and CAD program make it difficult to use and lack user-friendly features.
9:39: ⚙️ Demonstration of using a laser engraver, emphasizing the importance of safety glasses and the working surface size.
13:00: ⚙️ Demonstration of using a metal laser engraver to outline and mark text on a business card in real time.
16:35: ⚙️ Demonstration of laser engraving on metal, including adjusting settings and creating a PCB-like design.
20:27: ⚙️ Demonstration of laser engraving on metal surfaces, including cards and coasters, with a focus on speed and efficiency.
25:41: ⚙️ Laser engraver performance with different metals and materials at varying speeds and passes, affecting heat dissipation and power requirements.
28:30: 🔍 The debate over whether the laser is a fiber laser or a galvo laser, and the hesitation to label it as such.
Recapped using Tammy AI
Sam what laser do I need to engrave cristalglass trophies?
Hello Sam, this laser does it works engraving clear acrylic ?
Nice review. I have had people wanting me to engrave on back of watch or on metal security badge that I had to tell them my CO2 would not do that. This may be something to explore. Thank you
Check into the xTool F1 before buying this model.
@@Samcraftcom thank you Sam.
I had a similar laser system for a short time (Mr. Carve M1). It works great on plastics, and marking metal, but it won't engrave to any real depth, even with hundreds of passes.
I returned it and bought a fiber laser with a 50w JPT source, and the difference was unbelievable. The material that the smaller laser struggled to mark were cut completely through when I tried full power. If you're needing to actually engrave metal, not just mark it, get a "real" fiber laser and save yourself some time and effort.
Got any links to the product you went with?
Yea but also a huge cost difference and power difference. Your not comparing apples to apples but watermelons to grapes
Bummer it doesn't work on Wood, but how it did on that small round flashlight was impressive.
You should add those to your family store...just sayin.
Will it do clear acrylics?
Been waiting on this video. You did not disappoint. If it is 1064, isn’t that an ir laser with galvo. XTool is coming out with F1 that has ir and blue diode working with galvo, but I would go with atomstack. I’ve heard their customer service is better. Great thorough video. I want a SamCraft flashlight. Lol
I'm really glad you enjoyed the video! Send me an email and who knows.. maybe one will arrive in your mailbox!
Hey Sam, as someone who has no real need for any laser engraver/cutters, I still watch because I find your videos very educational and just fun to watch. But you do have me second guessing myself -- do I need a laser engraver? :) -Steve
I appreciate that and take it as a huge compliment. :)
I'm wondering if it would be possible to do enough passes to cut through thin brass to make, for example, tiny watch gears.
That would be great to have an answer
I THINK ORTUR WILL HOLD IT,S OWN.
some assembly required batteries not included for 1699. however thats a dc power jack this can be ran off a battery on a tailgate at trade shows flea markets swap meets the pasture making tags for animals. im sure ts indexable for larger works too. but the price is way more then most people would spend with out some way to make the money back
Couldn't you take it mounted on it's base and use the holes in the base to attach it sturdly to the larger sideways piece your trying to engrave while supporting it by hand. I think this would keep your museles form getting tired of holding it instead of using it with the cone on it?
Hi Sam, thank you for the review and showing the examples. Too bad there are limitations regarding organic materials. I am curious how working with glass as a medium would work. I have never used this type of product so it really has peaked my interest. Thank you again for this video.
I'll have to test out glass and let you know in a community post.
Does it matter if aluminum is Mill finish or polished?
Can you add the tumbler attachment?
How deep will this laser etch? Are there any metals it won't do?
do you know how to engrave an image like the tiger they advertise on their amazon listing for this machine? i tried importing normal images but it engraves very light and super slow. i also tried converting to a dxf after making the image grayscale and increasing the contrast but the results make it look like a normal vector graphic missing lots of key details instead of a high quality image
What speed did you use for Aluminum?
Very cool machine. Windows is the problem. I would have to have Mac for sure.
What's the source of the laser and can we print on copper and brass
So safety glasses need to be worn when working with laser mark? Why? Similar to arcweld?
Hello Sam! We love your channels. In this video your using tools my hubby said he wanted. I want to know what they are called and where you got them. (Red handle) thanks!
That was a T-Handle Allen wrench. That particular one is a CRAFTSMAN set that I bought from Lowe's, but there are other brand name styles. Here's the exact one on Amazon: amzn.to/3HVDK7e and other generic ones too: amzn.to/3v9dgra Hope this helps!
Mechanics tools , impact & chrome ... does the lazer engrave those metals or just mark them ?
I engraved a set of chromed vanadium tools for family for Christmas. It engraved into them very well -- you could feel the rough engravings!
Curious how it would do on silver, gold and stainless steel.
Right, nice demonstration. Question, you can feel the engraving, material is vaporized. For my own health I don’t want to be in surroundings where vaporized aluminium is in the air. I like the result, Ilike the process, I like your explanations. Should’nt fume exhaust/suction be setup?
Yes, 1,000% yes!!! I just received my 4" duct fans and components to set up a dedicated fume extraction for this laser and my other diodes. :)
Can you change colors on the Atomstack M4?
Can you post the link of the store where you buy the metal sheet for laser engraving please
I got them from Hobby Lobby
Can I use this for engraving metal credit cards? Or is the coverage size not big enough?
Sure you can! The max working size is 70mm. Also check out my video about the new Genmitsu Z5-1. It is MUCH better than this machine! th-cam.com/video/dqF7fbCeRcA/w-d-xo.html
Sam commented older video in last couple days where you discussed using GoPro8. What camera or cameras did you use for this video?
works for little curved bracelets? made from stainless steel
hello, do you have a material list with the parameter settings?
Have you tried the Atomstack on precious metals, i.e., Silver, gold, etc? Thank you!
Oh goodness no! :) I can't say that I have any of those that I'm willing to risk to a laser.
@@Samcraftcom Well, ya never know what Santa will bring! 🎅
Sir i have a question -- how stanless steel metal engraved as a black latters but a metal core is silver ?
I didn't see you wipe the slate clean prior to running the laser so I think the little dots were from dust particles. I could be waaaaay off base here but that's what my opinion is and you know we all got one.
Yes, I had my glasses on.... Bahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!
Peace
That banding didn't look like what you normally get on curved surfaces. ie my co2 would have had a slow graduation and not a line . to me it seemed more of a machine/software fault especially as it happened on the very start of the 1st move.
What laser would you recommend for wood products (cutting boards, etc.)? Appreciate your videos. New subscriber...👍. Thx!
If you're looking to engrave / mark the wood, then honestly any blue dot diode laser will work. Wood is one of the easiest things to engrave. Your budget will direct you, but for good prices SainSmart have good lasers. If you want "the best" I would point you to the xTool D1 Pro at this current time (Dec 2022). In my opinion they have their act together the best and have the full package of options & upgrades. Hope this helps!
@@Samcraftcom VERY helpful! Thank you!!
How deep will this go into anodized aluminum? Will it get to 0.003 inches deep?
glass and acrylic?
Just subscribed to your channel your videos are very informative and super cool. I have been 3D printing for a few now. It's time up the game. In the market for a laser that can engrave / print on metal. This particular laser the Atomstack M4 has stuck out! Other than the 💩software that everyone is having issues with it seems like. What I'm trying to do is not that hard. More less personalizing flat metal objects with names and maybe a little logo. How hard is it to change a jpg to a dfx? Or an image? Have you played around with SeaCad 5.0. any advice? Thanks Sam stay crafty 🤣
There are a few online converter sites that seem to be okay at converting to the DXF format. If you're in the market for a machine like this, be sure to look at the Genmitsu Z5-1 and the xTool F1. They're both better than this one, with the xTool being top tier with their dual laser setup (blue light and infrared) and accessories.
As I sit here thinking how I could use one of these to make money and learn a new trade too, any places to go and learn more about these things and how to use and afford one, Later
This would be great for PCBs. Cover the blank with black spray paint, engrave the negative spaces then etch. Run a deeper engrave for the holes to create divots that will pull in the drill bit. The threaded holes in the base make it easy to create a jig for aligning a 2-sided PCB.
That's a very creative and great idea!
Great idea! I recently came across this idea as well, but I ran into an issue: The laser was leaving a thin layer of paint (perhaps burnt paint?) still ontop of the Cu layer. Would you be able to still etch even with this thin layer or do you know how to remove the thin layer?
@@Samcraftcom Great idea! I recently came across this idea as well, but I ran into an issue: The laser was leaving a thin layer of paint (perhaps burnt paint?) still ontop of the Cu layer. Would you be able to still etch even with this thin layer or do you know how to remove the thin layer?
@@ghazalia8701 it is residue left by the smoke. You can minimize it by engraving toward the exhaust port so the smoke is mostly drawn over the area that has not been engraved yet. Setting up a small fan inside to blow the smoke away from the engraved area can also help.
You can probably get enough removed with soap and water or maybe alcohol. You can’t get too aggressive with cleaning it because you don’t want to take the paint off too.
Does anyone know if this laser is supported Lightburn?
How many hours we can run it continuously?