PS5 Scalpers Play The Victim, Say They Don't Deserve Bad Press With Very Dumb Arguments
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"I am not the villain of this story." - said the villain of this story.
"We're not so different you and i"
the idiots that are willing to buy the consoles at such exorbitant prices fault. if it wasn't for them the scalpers wouldn't exist.
said idiots are the real villains.
Reminds me of the ending of DOOM 2016.
@@GentleJellicent That's what I was referencing, yes.
@@stapuft why you trying to defend the scalpers for
The worst argument I've heard scalpers say is they have to pay the bills and struggle with money. I'm sorry but if you can afford even one or two PS5s you're not struggling. I barely make it to my next payment with £5 in my bank some months. You're not struggling you can get by with what you have. Absolutely nothing can defend that.
Boohoo poor scalpers are struggling despite having millones of dollars to buy ps5s
"I'm struggling, that's why I bought 1000 PS5s and bragged about it while selling them at exorbitant prices."
You also seem to have made Bad Life choices yourself.
@@yerushalaimnehereset or born into his situation. Don't judge his situation without knowing his situation.
@@yerushalaimnehereset Ah yes, because everyone is born into wealth and there's no factors or random happenings of life that could _ever_ exacerbate or mitigate one's financial instability.
My dad said "these scalpers should be shot" once and I'm starting to agree with him
I remember that one scalper got his stash stolen at gun point. Your dad is right anyways
I have a stupid idea: scalping food and shit people need to survive, ESPECIALLY YOU WHEAT, IMMA MAKE PEOPLE PAY FIVE GRAND JUST TO TURN YO ASS INTO BREAD! What next? Scalping people?
@@Lord_GhostBoner_ Actually.. in my country, folks are doing just that. Buying up supply of essentials such as food (Rice, Chicken, etc), hand sanitizer, Face masks, and even medicines... hoarding them so the prices go up. Thankfully, some warehouses were raided by the government... but still... It is just downright insane.
@SKS-Killer a greedy and selfish one.
I agree with him
"I bOuGhT 500 ps5s bEcAuSe I nEeD mOnEy"... Ya, no you're a joke.
I have but ONE thing to say to the scalpers in response to the scalpers trying to make us feel sorry for them: ASAB *
* ASAB: All Scalpers Are Bastards
These scalper claim they are a legitimate business like a retail store. So, should we report them to the IRS or in the UK (Revenue and Customs office) so that they can be treated as business that has to pay taxes.
Dew it
If they consider themselves a business, they should be required to pay taxes like every other business has to.
They do have to pay taxes when they sell on marketplaces. Once you've hit a certain amount websites like Ebay send you a tax form. The only thing they could possibly get away with is when they sell in cash and then they could choose not to report that income.
How about you dont buy from them in the first place
They deserve a hefty tax liability as they dont provide any service to the system.
My ability to care for them in any capacity has been mysteriously located to my middle finger
That's weird i found mine located at my ring hole.
"mysteriously" let's be real, you put it there xD
Hold it tall and proud as a monument from all of us friend.
@@arcticblue2ss471 where i life the scalpers ask 1300 EURO
"I don't even sell drugs now, I just help other people sell drugs. It is so rewarding."
You should really just move on up to the main supplier. Otherwise you're just getting peanuts for payment.
Not the same thing.
At least drug dealers have to hustle and deal with dangerous people. There is at least some credit for that. These people sit in their homes on ebay wasting away because they lack the skills to actually become wealthy and so need to take the scraps from the rich and stupid.
@@1bun2bun You're right. At least drug dealers aren't lazy turds that have a bot do the work for them.
@@akbop3749 I would agree. I actually give more respect for the drug dealers trying to give their families a chance to survive than these plebs that sit at home and watch their bots steal from people who will actually use the product.
"Acting as a middleman for limited quantity items"
The Emperor's Inquisition: " We sense Heresy."
We need to exterminatus the planet before it spreads to other ones. Emperor protects
Scalpers say that making people pay thrice the amount of a normal PS5 is "helping distribute the product fairly"
It's actually the same economic theory that proclaims that only market-equilibrium price is "fair" and that any interference with it is both practically futile and morally wrong that free marketeers had been using to justify all kinds of policies, and it's usually popular... But now it's not the big bad regulators that hold the price down, it's edit for reading-challenged: LEGITIMATE SELLERS, NOT SCALPERS, and people aren't quite as persuaded. I wonder why...
@@nebufabu that aren't holding the prices down. They're restricting supply to drive prices beyond what they are at market equilibrium. Did you not take basic economics?
Theyre gonna look hella stupid once the console manufacturers can actually mass produce the stock.The consoles will be worthless at that point.
@@Matt_History The price is not at market equilibrium thou. They are set by Sony and Microsoft. Not that scalping is good or anything.
@@Matt_History I meant Sony, MS, etc. There are so many sellers in this that tthis is confusing. There's no point for the first-party suppliers to restrict supply, what they're doing is the razor-and-blade strategy: sell a durable good (the console) at a discount, then profit off the necessary supplies (games.) They want to make and sell as many consoles as cheaply as possible. Well, except Nintendo, who... Do Nintendo things.
They deserve all the bad press for ruining Christmas for a lot of people.
I mean COVID kinda did that already but the scalping is the cherry on top of the shit cake!
Hundreds of thousands of children could not enjoy christmas and I dont even like kids :(
Yeah, I still haven’t been able to get a PS5 and I’ve checked every day
@@FilSapia covid didn't ruin Christmas, the government did
@@stickbar_ go follow wario64 or Ps5 stock alert on twitter. They always post as soon as the ps5 go in stock online. That's how I got my ps5 on amazon.
Ridiculous argument from the scalpers. If I bought milk from the middle man, horded it, sold it on at three/four/five times the true value of it, I'm not offering a service. I'm ripping people off. The milk would sour anyway...
Free market: *Anyone can buy.*
Scalpers market: *_"We choose who can buy."_*
If people had more self respect they wouldn’t touch the scalped goods and let the scalpers reap what they sow. It’s a shitty practice, but morons are responsible for keeping them going.
@@johnnyrayh5858 indeed
Jokes on them I waited for it to come back in stock when they have plenty of it.
"I donate to charity." Onlyfans doesn't count.
"I donate to charity" sounds more like "I'm trying to get a tax reduction"
Donating to charity doesn’t change that scalpers are scumbags.
That's capitalism, baby
Onlyfans is a charity? For what? Girls who can afford camera equipment already?
John Wayne gacy did charity work. Still didn’t change the fact he was a serial killer
"Wait, who's "Robin Hood"? I thought it was "robbing the hood"."
- Scalper
good one.🤩
Just rob the scalpers. Simple.
I was in the play. Thought I had a more minor part playing friar tuck. But nope I was basically the main actor. Robinhood had to get gagged for the ransom note so I had a whole page of expositions where my only cues were Robin Hood muffled cause he kept saying "we will Rob the poor and give to the rich" and other such things. So I had to "translate" for him.
Life coming back around. Life imitating parody again.
We need to have government agents go in, arrest all of the scalpers and confiscate every single item they may have "stolen" from legitimate customers. In addition, they need to have every single electronic confiscated and scanned for bots so they can go after the creator(s) of those bots.
@kanuk the hunter to enjoy the tears of India and losers who scam catching all the smoke
Unfortunately what they're doing is legal, it's just scummy
I agree. They are earning money very easy and they need to be in Jail. I don’t know why they can’t let anyone live their life and just buy one with original prices. I want to buy one with my OWN money and I’m not going to raise $1000 over a console
@@FPS_Raynz 🤣 sold a ps5 today
@@-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-... PlayStation said they have sold 10 million of them and I’m for sure those 99 million went to scalpers💀
I'm kinda surprised that we haven't yet heard news of people meeting up with scalpers to "buy" a PS5 and then just beat them up within an inch of their life lol..
Actually Ive heard of it happening at least once in toronto
Might have to do that these scalpers can catch a fade any day
It happens though there are more subtle, effective tactics. Like agreeing to meet up and make the scalper drive an hour away and the "buyer" no show.
We rob one my girlfriend who is this cute 110 pound woman acting like she was picking it up I came from behind and put my p-95 to his head she acted all surprised and scared guy had no clue we set him up
100% deserved, maybe too generous
Breaking news: Scalper can't take criticism. More news at 10.
I didn't see more at 10. Liar!
@@Victis_Rage They probably scalped it.
@@gmsimon HAHA nice
Let's hunt them down Shinji
Crep Chief Notify, respect the Crep or go cry me a weewee.
You know what, they deserve *MORE* bad press.
Thank you for being one of the few still going hard at these scalpers. I’ve been looking and feel like I’ll be looking all year and I can barely afford a luxury $500 purchase as it is. Only reason my conscious lets me is because me and my daughter make a lot of memories playing it Together
They get surprised that people don’t like them when their job is literally to make people spend more money than they should have to
"All we are acting as is a middle man for limited quantity items"
Dude, that's what retailers were for
They're are the reason the units are limited in the first place lol what plant are these scammers on!!
@@gundamfan2020 Digital Weed
@@gundamfan2020 to be fair, even without scalpers, the supply still wouldn't match demand and you still won't be able to find one.
Ah but you see, what we really needed was a second middle man to remove the item from retailers and sell it themselves for a higher price. Don't you see their altruism?
Agreed there was no need for it
“We’re no different from a retail chain”
*sells it for 3x the price
Their refering to cex retailer 2x the retail price
@@shaunwilson3059 cex isn't buying up all the stock to artificially inflate their price
they are giving scalpers a plan b if they don't sell on eBay/stock X them they can sell to cex for £600 , cex are a big part of the problem .
Not to mention the fact that if anyone know the cost of the hardware, they will tell you that consoles most of the time barely make money- at the MSRP is just about breaking-even or with a very thin profit margin, which the retailers are getting only a tiny % of that already small piece of pie.
Some how these consoles scalpers are helping no one they think they are entitled to making 50-100 times of what a retailer in the chain gets.
@@lewisnorden3744 but they are inflating the price unreasonably, making the scalper prices seem reasonable by comparison. being a offical retailer selling at 200% of retail price is scummy.
I helped some dude mug someone a few days ago, I just love to help people make money.
“Tesco is not hoarding all the milk”
*Combine Harvester Music Stops*
"There are children starving in Africa, so stealing candy from those babies was the right thing to do"
*selling candy to them at a higher price
You could rephrase it as
"We bought out all the candy and marked up the price to 400% of the original price"
Nope. We have scalpers too.
One of them in Botswana got killed over it. Marking up the console 3 times. So eventually someone robbed and shot him, and not one tear was shed from me 😂😂
Imagine scalping in Africa, where we are already struggling to me the official price. There still some in south Africa
@@OhSoTiredMan so, much like US did with insulin?
@@dushas9871 The people who marked up insulin price should be sentenced for mass murder imo, still amazed as an european of what happened there
"PS5 scalpers are unhappy with their public image"
Ah yes, because all those other scalpers are SOOOO beloved...
Loooool right
Why don’t they just wipe their tears with their fucking money. If I was as rich as them I would’ve just not talk at all
"Acting as a middleman for limited quantity items"
*I wonder why those items are limited in quantity?*
"I was paid to murder a guy, but I donated part of it to a charity so it's okay."
“We’re being treated negatively!”
Oh boo hoo! Let me play a sad song on the world’s smallest violin!
I scalped all the small violins lol
Lmao
looool
As a fellow scalper, I cannot be proud with my brothers at arm selling to the stupid and desperate.
Manage to sell another PS5 to a sucker for AUD $1300.
So to anyone offended by this... IDGAF just gimme ur money u desperados lmao
Frankly i know where your profile picture coming from, am i a degenerate ?
I was waiting for the "Charity" defense. I believe that they donate to charity about as much as I believe that "Jordan" and "Regan" are their real names. I've worked retail and dealt with these clowns personally. They will come in on a black friday, want to buy your entire stock of something, tell you a sob story about how it's for charity, then upon purchase whip out a tax exemption card that's clearly marked "Resale."
A few are nice, but the majority of them are very rude and arrogant. When you tell them that you don't have something in stock, or "one per customer," they call you a liar, and some derogatory slurs, and demand to talk to the manager. They then tell the manager that you were rude to them and called them derogatory slurs, and of course, demand further discounts on the item for having to go through the hassle.
And yeah, at least in the US, thanks to 'tax exemption' cards, those guys buy their PS5's for not a penny more than $499. I really hope that info goes mainstream. Hey Yong! If you read this comment, break that story!
I used to work in retail (wow, almost a decade ago now), and yup, I've seen people come in with tax exemption slips from non-profit organizations, and buy up tons of stuff. And I've worked in non-profits, too, and seen people pocket the stuff being donated to them, or what they buy "for charity." It's wild.
They're psychopaths. Even if you blacklist them, they'll send random kids to buy product from you. And they're not even clever about it. They do it literally 5 minutes after being rejected. They really think the store is going to hand a dozen or so consoles/tickets/booster boxes to a freaking child. Even worse, they buy personalized tickets, which they know for a fact will get people rejected at the door (don't even try it), for hundreds of dollars. They know they're scamming you, and they just don't give a crap. They're horrible people, and I hope the law will catch up with them. Btw, if any of you work in retail, don't let them threaten you. Most stores don't even want to do business with these scumbags. In theory, you could insult their moms and they'd still come back and try to get product from you. They're have no dignity, no morals, and no standards whatsoever. They are less than dirt. All they care about is money. Screw them.
Yong needs to cover, or at least see this!
This happens too often.
How can someone get this tax exemption thing?
I love how delusional they are that they think they are helping people and then pretty much say oh well these websites should be set up better to launch restocks so bots don’t have advantage. And then proceed to take advantage of those same retailers.
But the point is the retailers don’t care who is getting the product as long as they sell it at a profit.
And if these scalpers really wanted to help why not go to the retailers in question that need better practices on restocks and try to work with them to make it more consumer friendly instead of making your buck off it
EA: I'm the worst thing to ever happen in gaming
Scalpers: hold my beer
Scalpers: We're like part of nature, really.
Actual Vultures: No you ain't.
Maggots and flies: You scalpers disgust us.
Cockroaches and ticks: Scalpers are truly revolting
Well parasites sadly are a part of nature
@@chefcc90 don’t say that, even ticks and fleas would be insulted by these assholes
@@irondragon1785 Satan's like: "Don't look at me. I may be bad, but even I have standards."
Can you hear it? The sound of a single, microscopic violin playing just for the scalpers? Nah, me neither, screw 'em.
🎻
Didn't even press F on the world's tiniest keyboard. 🤣
Lmao nice 🤣
🎻
I would, but unfortunately scalpers have taken over the market for tiny violins and you can't get one for under $1800 usd
Of course, making death threats to scalpers is crossing the line....
In theory.
',:)
It isn't tho
@@HugoStiglitz88 I agree man, Sony says that they have sold 10 million ps5s and more than half of those are scalpers.
This is exactly why I HATE scalpers
The bubbles gonna pop eventually. Yeah Sony doesn't care if we can't get them, they'll care when their dev studios can't sell shit.
They can't sell games if no one has the consoles to play them
Damn right, greed karma smacks hard eventually. It's toppled grand kingdoms for eons.
actually they do care to a degree.
They sell the console at a loss and make money off their games and PS+
if (for example) 25% of total consoles sold was scalped and just sitting around on ebay, that's 25% less users PlayStation is profiting from, which can be hundred of thousands of users
I don't know if the xbox is any easier to find or not, but they might lose some customers there as well if it is
I get it's a giant corp, but I don't think they're "villians" who don't care that their fan-base can't get their product and enjoy it. You're right though, when game sales will be low, they'll push back harder
Scalpers: 'We have a image to uphold'.
Me: *What fking image??*
me: The image of being a massive SCUMBAG?
The only image I see of scalpers is the jpeg of Mr Krabs saying "i like money"
Scalpers: Why AM I STILL GETTING HATE?
I can see it: "it's no scalping, it's surprise scarcity"
Exactly! That way players can feel a sense of pride and accomplishment when they finally manage to get a PS5.
Underrated comment
if the big gaming companies and industries wanted to prevent this situation. they could have simply made a registry system to guarantee an actual people were getting the consoles.
people are outraged at the so-called scalpers when they really got screwed by the companies.
Also, when the grocers sell the milk it saves people the effort of travelling to/organizing delivery of the milk from the farmers themselves. Buying from the store is a insignificant price increase for the benefit of a massive increase of convenience.
Scalping has literally no convenience benefit to justify for the massive markup at times.
That being said, let's not forget that despite how despicable these scalpers are, if people just wouldn't buy from them, they'd be incapable of doing this.
Having just taken Economics this year, it makes me happy that someone pointed this out.
Tesco also has to pay employees and the properties they are leasing plus all the maintenance on a regular basis. Scalpers just put their stock somewhere in their house.
I would say they even deserve death threats. Not actual death, but just experience the frustration and hate people feel against them.
scalper saves you the time you'd waste trying to buy that console in regular line, and no, you're braindead if you think that without scalpers there would've been enough consoles to cover the demand.
@@dushas9871 Scalpers buy online, pretty sure there is no waiting line on webshops
@@niallthesheep1164 so, why didn't you already bought it online? Oh cause it's out of stock? No doubt it's the scalpers that bought them all, otherwise you'd surely already had one, right?
I pretend to be a buyer for scalpers and get them to drive out to meet me. Naturally I don’t show up. Just waste their time and money
Getting rich off of the poor is on par with corps. The industry gets their cut no matter what, it's the normal everyday dude that gets punished by this. There's no way around it. Scalping is as scummy as it gets.
"Bot Competition"
No dude, those are just normal people wanting to get their own Ps5
Nnnnoo it's bots...
No bots competition if this world doesn’t has scalper
I've noticed alot of people that I know just giving up on trying to get one. They refuse to give their money to these parasites.
Same here. Waiting for bug fixes, pro versions, bundels, better games, being able to buy them from a store instead of a website. Kinda like games themselves nowadays. Cyberpunk comes to mind....just waiting for fixes and improvements.
@@voiceofreason4551 You are indeed, a voice of reason.
I'm the same. I want a PS5 but I refuse to buy one from a scalper. If everyone did that with everything these scalpers horde then they'd have no business.
@@patrickriarchy6054 I'll wait. Annoys me, but Ill wait
Having the same thing happen with graphics cards at the moment. The GPU I’m looking for is about 470 normally at the store, but online... 999.99+
I have an all but finished computer sitting next to my desk, and I’ll be damned to reward someone for making an artificial shortage amidst a global pandemic
"We're just a surprise storefront." Facepalm.
Kinda reminds me of EA "Surprise mechanics"
“I’m not a bad person. I just wanted to gouge the hell out of you with 2x prices on a console you’ve anticipated since the trailer.”
I just wish people wouldnt buy from scalpers. If no one gave them money, theyd have no reason to continue.
Exactly, as much as I understand wanting one, no one, AND I MEAN NO ONE, needs a next gen console, just wait, tell your kids some bad people stole all of them and that they'll just have to wait
Meanwhile stores should honestly put the consoles in a special system that works via direct conversation with another human being and sold only 1 per person, but retailers (unlike sony and microsoft) don't care who they sell to
@@ironalex28 yeah buying next gen consoles now is not a very good decision since there is not much game on there
There's not even a real reason to buy them right now, it won't be until at least a minimum of 2 to 3 years before everything is fully for ps5's and xsx's
@@epsorks lol thats the way my dad bought the ps4 last time
@@jugglryt hey me too.....just waited and it was much better besides most new consoles of the first generation usually have problems with them so usually wait for like their Slimmer version to come out and it's usually good and besides you got a lot of games to choose from at that point as well
They're playing the same card a lot of millionaires and billionaires do, but they don't have the PR to get away with it.
it's basically just the well-documented psychological process of rationalization, people who justify their own self-interest. and you are right, they aren't billionaires who can pay the media to try and convince people of their rationalizations.
It's like when EA got too greedy with their loot boxes in battlefront 2 and ended up getting media attention, a massive backlash and ruined the lootbox party for everyone. Scalpers are having a similar moment right now. Going to the extreme with their exploitation and greed, getting a backlash for how obvious they're making it, and they're going to ruin their own party too.
@@CosmicAeon can’t come soon enough!
Can't buy Gamestop shares oh poor peasants, well done Sheriff oh i mean Robinhood.
The bullshit bubble almost popped people.
Kind of the classic tale of how if nobody fell for scams, then scammers wouldn't be able to operate. If people only had the willpower to not need the latest gadget RIGHT NOW, then the scalpers would be left sitting on inventory they would eventually have no choice but to sell at face value. I think of how ticket scalpers were often run by gangs, and they were they'd be in front of the venue trying to sell tickets and dressed clearly not like everyone else in attendance.
They're doing the exact same thing to the PS4 since the PS5 launched too. You should see those PS4 prices now. I've seen them as high as $900! If you searched Amazon right now, you'll find a 2TB PS4 Pro with only one controller for $860. There's a *renewed* 1TB PS4 Pro for *$507.78* - right now! Another is listed for $699, TLoU 2 bundle for $799, and a 1TB RDR 2 bundle for $672. These prices are significantly higher than launch prices for that model. The PS4 *Pro* launched at $399!
"We're just the middleman!"
This is literally the same level of stupid as EA's infamous, "It's not gambling; It's just surprise mechanics."
EDIT: @Cecilia Hops I see you deleted your idiotic post after posting that at me. I just wanted to point out that you're partially correct but you need a license to be able to legally sell a product or you get a hefty fine, plus owing a percentage of your profits equal to that of the taxes of what your sales would've produced. The tax man don't put up with shit easily.
"It's not scalping, it's surprise buying" - Scalpers
"Middleman?" No.
"Parasite?" Yes.
@@ootdega brilliant!!👍👍
Sony should go after these people and sue them somehow
@@drew9928 best way handle is is a pre order you get 1 console thats it
Scalpers: "All we are acting is a middleman for limited quantity items."
*[Everyone is laughing at you.]*
Damn
Hahahaha ahem yeah just hearing this freaking got me rolling
No, If you didn't buy it to try to resell it to me at $750 I would have been able to buy it for $550 including taxes.
@@federicoalcala9566 750??? Holy shit that is cheap, my country’s official price is 1400.
*Middleman... Like the (Private) Healthcare Insurance Industry.*
if it was from me i would bring back the electric chair, and all scammers, scalpers and cheaters, would have to fear it!
nothing more shameful than stealing ppl who are already poor
personally I'm done, no consoles this generation for mea i am getting a PC
i and i'm not blaming only these but PS5 and Xbox too.
Blame retailers letting this happen just to make a quick buck. They don’t give a fuck if nobody ever uses any of those consoles. They got their money.
The newest graphics cards are being scalped too. Good luck
It isn't just PS5s. It is graphics cards and anything else they might decide to scalp next. We need strict laws to stop this. They don't just use bots. They are also posing as retailers and buying them from the distributors directly. It seems there is a need to regulate that so that someone can't just be a retailer to get these and scam us with their high prices.
I'm not happy with scalpers' public image either; we're not seeing nearly enough of them publicly executed.
lmao
If the execution is slow an painful then yes, I agree ;-)
I suggest the short-drop method for scalpers.
Here here
Haha
Scalpers: We're tax-free millionaires!
Governments: So you have chosen death.
One of the few times I can get behind the IRS!
@@xblackdog I can NEVER get behind the irs
@@K3end0 😂
IRS don’t play.
I loled for real
Governments should be investigating these scalper groups to see if they are paying taxes on all the cash they are making
B.. but consoles are cheaper than PC'S
Scalpers: Not anymore.
Doesn't a bot bypassing securities on a retail website sound like a light form of hacking that should be construed as Fraud and illegal?
Come to think of it, you're right!
I've been baffled this entire time by the whole scalping scandal. Stinks like an inside job to me. As if Sony/Microsoft doesn't know that scalpers are making the already skewed supply/demand even more unbalanced. They know that customers are in a frenzy, and they can't WAIT to see people go ballistic (again) when the next shipments go out. I also wouldn't be surprised if Sony/Microsoft get a cut of the raised prices scalpers charge people. Cuz how is any of this even legal? o_O
Yup-and I doubt they report that income on their taxes and really wish IRS would come knocking on their door.
It also sounds like something that could be construed as tortious interference. They're deliberately violating the terms of a ToS in order to prevent the businesses from being able to complete sales with other third parties.
No, of course not. See, it's not my fault I stabbed people, it's YOUR fault for not stopping me from stabbing them!
Now people know how unsafe they are, because of me! I'm a hero!
Logic.
We just have to inform the government that scalpers don't pay taxes.
Government doesn't like when they don't get a slice of the pie.
Plot twist, government starts scalping 🌚
🌚😈💀
the organised ones probably do, and donate to charity to get out of paying some of it.
The people buying these systems are the problem. Scalpers have no business without desperate fools.
Scalper: I'm just getting the item before it runs out and people can't buy it.
They can't buy it because you and hundreds of other scalpers are buying it all up!
I really wish ppl would stop buying from these scalpers so they would get stuck with 100s of ps5 with noone to buy them
Sadly gamers aren't known for their patiance when it comes to release of new product. I hate blaming the victim, but is the new console really something that important that they cannot wait few weeks or couple of months for restock or scalpers lowering their prices? They're not exactly running out of good video games to play anytime soon, no matter the preference. Like I'm not sure if it's even physically possible to play everything worth playing in one lifetime even if zero new games were made ever again. I haven't bought a triple A game for PC or home consoles ever since Fallout 4 and barely even touched that one and I'm certainly not running out of things to play. But no, nothing else suffices than the newest console and the few games it has that most likely will be more or less tech demos.
@@retrohanska4441 trust me I get it I game all the time and most of we wont spend the money for these scalper lames but some of the weak ppl just cant wait for some reason I 100% dont get it I would never buy something from some lame trying to sell anything over priced
@@retrohanska4441
gamers are not known for their patience but they are not stupid also.
@@ColdNorth0628 What you're describing are hardcore gamers. Casual gamers who play NBA2Kwhatever probably don't care enough to wait. They have no standards and just want the instant gratification. Like, you have to realize that what we consider as "gamers" is only a part of the overaching gaming community. We probably only make up 30-40 something percent of the overall gaming community, and that's a generous estimate.
Plus you have people who will bite the bullet and buy it because its a 4K dvd player or whatever on top of being a games console. That's pretty good value and partially why the Playstation brand has been so successful. I could see why someone with very little patience would buy it at an inflated price. The demand is high enough.
Obviously none of this makes it right though.
exactly, the problem is people that buy from them...not the opposite.
Scalpers: “I give to charity every month”
whoopdy doo. I and many others do that too and we’re not scalping people. 🤪
What kind of insane troll logic is this, thinking that people will just forget and forgive misdeeds just because someone gave money to charity ? This is inconceivably loco, this flawed mentality.
@@Araneus21 I mean, shitty celebrities do this and everybody loves them so I see the angle they're trying to play.
@@hooliganfish yeah but $10k is a lot different than say $50-100.
Charity is the name of my local hooker!
@@zachtemoro2116 Not really, it all gets consumed by the charity itself. Never forget that Bono's charity gives less than 1% of the funds to the people that need it. That $10k is just getting spent on coke and strippers for Bono and the rest of his bandmates while he laughs and uses donated banknotes to light cigars with.
Also, this just shows Sony/ MS that they can jack up the price of their next console and the masses will pay it
They put this on themselves! They have no right to tell us they don't deserve bad credit! Nobody wants to buy a PS5 for a thousand dollars!
"Your hatred towards us is unjustified."
No, it fucking is.
has anyone of them gotten robbed yet????
@@EastlakeRasta7 Some of them ya.
I think one of them posted on social media a bunch of the PS5s they had, saying to 'cry about it' or something along those lines. Before getting robbed a couple hours later.
Not saying it should've happened.. But..
And, not fully confirmed on my end, but I heard of it.
@@averageanger7092 If that actually happened and they whined about it on social media I hope somebody said "Cry about it."
@@averageanger7092 Sometimes Justice is like poetry...
"You and I, we're not so different" - Scalpers, probably.
😂😂
Well, if they're referring 'you' as fellow scalpers, they'd be right.
Oh, who am i kidding, lol....
I am not a greedy scumbag... so there's that.
The worst thing is there is very little regulation of the market to prevent this.
"We're putting food in people's mouths" by taking it out of others and making kids cry. Seriously these people are just the worst.
The fact that they're unhappy brings me immense joy lmao
I hope the rat bastards end up with a ton of unsellable PS5s and a HUGE hole in their pockets.
They're unhappy but still rich
Hope they catch something rare and incurable.
@@RoarofdalioN bro ps5s are scarce already, almost every single each scalper is sure to be sitting on a meager stockpile at best. its so scummy, but the payoff isnt really enough to warrant it. thats why there are so many orbiting ps5 videos trying to make themselves feel better by trying to fight people in youtube comments lmaoooo
It just sounds like them crying and wiping away the tears with large bills.
"I'm only scalping ps5s to feed my family"
bro where are you getting the thousands needed to buy the ps5s? lol. That's "money to feed your families", isn't it? scalper logic 🤣
I always thought the same thing. 🤣🤣
With the money that their making they have more than enough to feed a whole entire football stadium for a year.
I mean... caviar's expensive man
I'm Pro scalper. And Poor People don't deserve new consoles. If $1,500 is a major issue for you. Then you should probably reevaluate your life and realize you need to stop gaming and get your life together. Because this isn't food or medicine or anything important. This is the ultimate first world issue.
And if the gaming companies wanted to prevent the scalping from happening. They could have easily made a registry system.
At least be angry at the right organizations. instead of being useful idiots.
And this is why it's not the rich but the poor that are the greediest people you will ever meet.
@OTR Ogre And Corgi, you make some good points, except for the last one.
I do think it's a little unfair to consumers, specially if they allow the use of APIs to systematically buy a lot of merchandise. But ultimately, this is a luxury item, and you are not forced to buy it from the scalpers. If you couldn't get it the first week, just get it the second week, or third, of a few years later if you want to pay less money. There are other problems that deserve the outrage much more
Just so you know, Consoles are sold at a loss. They are worth more than the price they are sold at. This is so they can make money from the games themselves.
So if a scalpers buys consoles and all they do is sit in his basement waiting to be sold off, it's the manufacturers who suffer.
Scalper:I’m trying to feed my family
John Witherspoon:J O B job
Rip
"It makes me so happy that I can help people make some extra money for themselves" he says, while simultaneously causing more people to lose said money
Some people don't understand that the money had to come from someone else first. Probably the same type of person who thinks the government can give you free shit.
Oh, so a poor person and a billionaire are equal in how much they need money?
The scalpers are idiots and are ruining peoples chances of being able to purchase a PS5/Xbox Series S/Xbox Series X. The fact they are using bots to buy out the complete stock allocation of multiple retailers and then trying to sell the consoles for 3 or 4 times the price should be illegal. I'm glad that the UK government is considering on bringing in legislation to make scalping illegal.
How are they idiots?
@@jerattrolston3772 When you buy out multiple video game retailers stock allocations and try to sell them for 3 or 4 times the price of MSRP, you have to suspect that there is fraud going on behind the scenes. Where are the scalpers getting the money from to purchase up to 3,500 and more consoles at any one time? It's no wonder the UK government are considering on putting legislation in place to make scalping illegal as something foul is obviously going on.
They're not ruining people's chances of getting a PS5. They're ensuring that you can get a PS5. Without the scalpers there would be no ps5s available for sale at all because there's not enough to go around. Your options are either you absolutely can't get a PS5 because there are none remaining, or you pay extra. Why would you choose the "no ps5s at all" option?
@@Donald_Allan I'm a bit unsure of the morality of all of this. Having a background in games, scalping in a lot of markets was pretty normal, obviously it's not ruining anyone's Christmas but if someone find a way to abuse a market loophole and it's legal, fairs. Obviously it sucks (I couldn't get a ps5 myself) but in the end it's just because the demand is insanely high and Sony didn't produce enough. Can I really blame some dudes for trying to make money by buying out stock and reselling? If Sony produced more the scalpers would have no one to tell to and they would have already put cash in sonys pocket. But idk
@@Strill_ that doesnt make any sense. How would people not be able to purchase a next gen console if there isnt a bot buying up the stock?
Scalping should be illegal.
Well now I'm going to report scalpers twice as much
Scalpers saying they're the middle man carries the same weight when EA and 2K says their loot boxes aren't gambling.
were not middle man anymore, we are the big boys who own all psfive, u want pspp u pay the big boy. u snoozed u loozed
Really hard to be on their side when one of these people literally said “fuck your feelings” to those who didn’t get the console
One of the scalpers said that?
@@The1NickSkyline yes, they said it on twitter, he then got publicly doxxed, location leaked , possibly robbed and his account disabled.
@@DrPenz Well, how hard is it to make your side look good after that? To answer my own question, that may very well be impossible after this. I mean, you have one of your own members of your already-shady-enough-as-it-is multiple-organization business that might as well be running their operations from the dark web saying that.
I mean, that's impressive to have so little empathy.
@@DrPenz Did that actually happen?
@@DrPenz been wondering how long it would take for angry people or hungry hackers to hit them. To be honest they made themselves massive targets especially since they wouldn't get any public sympathy and likely have trash security thanks to using bots that can be used against them.
HOW IS THIS STILL GOING ON?!
Can people not pre-order PS5s? Why is this such an issue outside of the holidays?
Allyuh wrong he is not Robin Hood, he's Robbing Hood :-)
You don't HAVE to go to a scalper.
Just be patient, there aren't even that many new AAA games out on PS5 that are worth the console switch yet.
My ps5 is barely used for gaming lol.
Exactly... Also they will come out with awesome bundles and limited edition sets in the near future. I'm happy to wait. Also Sony needs to fix the dual analog drift that's affecting a huge number of controllers
Was planning on getting a PS5 come income tax season but I'm not desperate for it so fk it I'll just wait until these degenerates get put in their place and this situation is resolved.
Honestly, It's us, the Demon's Souls fans. I will never forgive and never forget what these scalpers have done. I will wait and won't give in, but its tempting. $850 is the lowest I've seen. I have had a PS5 in my cart 4 times already and each time they sell out before I click check out. It is a god damn joke.
You are right. Everyone hold out, they will pick up production eventually.
Honestly, the only reason I'm interested in a PS5 early on AT ALL is because it's backwards compatible with PS4 games, and I skipped on that console.
And still, nowhere near enough to want to give some shady asshole my money. especially not for basically double the goddamn price.
What I hear: we help people to steal from other people, we are the good guys.
Good video. The milk vs game example is fascinating. The scalper in the article don't seem to understand the basic economic distinction between a zero sum trade (eg scalping - where the scalper, using supply control, just make you pay substantially more than you would otherwise be able to pay, profiting from market abuse) and a non zero sum trade (eg supermarkets - where the supermarket is able to offer you a product cheaper than you could procure it yourself, profiting from scale and scope economies).
Scalpers: stop making fun of us!
The internet: you know what? We're going to bully you even harder!!
Probably the one time ppl are completely fine with bullying
Bender: *laughs* "oh wait, you're serious. Let me laugh even harder"
Of course they gonna reveal their "victim card" after what they have done and got attention from the media. (Also willing to get sued)
Real dumb
They deserve to go to Jail
Scalpers are not Robinhood, they are Pablo Escobar.
"The ability to speak does not suggest intelligence"
~Qui-Gon Jinn, 32 BBY
The scalper cries out in pain as he charges unreasonable prices for a luxury good.
One reseller i saw and his exact words in a Facebook ad was "I can get you a PS5 or Series X, I charge the cost of the console plus tax, fuel (since I will drive as far as 150 miles to get it for you) and I will provide all recipients for my expenses so you know I'm not lying to you. Also if you can get them in stock locally please buy from there you will be able to use the warranty if you need too." I know the guy he's an old farmer who really just wants an excuse to go to the city Edit: the guy order the consoles online and had them sent to the the store and he only takes or one or two orders at a time at most with a wait period if he can get one or can't at a given time
Finally bought my ps5, I just hope everyone can buy it (or any consoles) and let this scalpers business die out
We need to mock the scalpers more for calling scalping a "valuable industry"
Its so dumb if supply and demand were normal for the products they scalp, their entire business model would be hemorrhaging money. Its like opening restaurant and buying your produce from a grocery store instead going directly to the whole sellers connected with the farmers. No one would show up to buy your dishes because you would have to mark up the price even further to compensate for the markup the grocery stores add.
@@MrIndiemusic101 Which is why they won't be selling PS5s forever. Either they just go out of business or they switch to buying other products that get sold for far under the market value.
@@gyroninjamodder looking at the screenshots in the vid showing they are selling supreme products, it looks like they are here to stay. Because beyond game consoles there are brands like supreme that purposefully sell limited time products to create FOMO among their customer base. Looks like they will have a steady flow of high demand products to scalp.
I guess I'm more pissed they actually believe they are providing some kind of service and their business is a "real business". I'd have less contempt for them if they were atleast self aware crooks. I have more respect for an asshole whose self aware of their own assholishness.
They deserve more than just "bad press".
The fact that they're trying to make money in such a shady way, all while the average person is already facing enough hardship these days... it makes my blood boil.
I don't condone the death threats, but they put themselves into this situation. They should "Deal with it" and I'll say "fuck their feelings".
Capitalism 101
@@originalscreenname44 Greed. Humanity is incapable of true generosity. You do not become Rich, or powerful by being generous. Some people also feel a sense of joy when they help others. It takes a strong person not to be consumed by pride. But, our society does not teach us to avoid entering that spiral.
@@jacobsantiago5693 and capitalism is the tool by which greed festers and grows. When you let people step all over someone and squeeze them for everything they have to enrich themselves and only themselves, you allow that environment to perpetuate because the next is going to think that’s what they have to do and the next person and the next.
I mean if you're an assassin/Hitman and your job is to end this person/target even though they have a family obviously the family is going to wish the worst on you. Even if it's "just your job" or "it's for the best of others"
I wouldn't threaten their lives but I certainly feel no pity for them.
Do they pay taxes for the earnings? I would assume that in normal country, if you buy a product with an intent of making a profit, you need to pay tax to your government for each unit sold. This is applicable in Poland. Unless you bough it and sold after 2 years (or something like that), in that case you would not have to pay the tax.
I’ve said it before and I will say it again scalping should be illegal.
My favorite scalper excuse is the "I'm providing a service to you" line they try to use.
Yeah, Gamestop and Target already provide that service, you know, the place you you got it from too, without the insanely inflated price...
racketeering 2.0 i swear. same thing with bitcoin and the gpu shortage crisis. these miners are tools for the big man. nothing more nothing less
it's funny how it's only wrong when regular people do it.
And consider for a moment. That the companies that manufacture the consoles. They could have removed the online sale option and got rid of the whole Alternative Market all at once.
they could have made the whole thing a registry style system with a lottery for who's going to get a option of buying a Faberge Egg new console.
Seriously the scalpers are just being used as a cover-up for the fact they never made enough consoles around Christmas.
Stop being played like a chump.
@@otrogreandcorgi9818 It does not matter how many sony makes it is first come first serve but these scalpers use this to benefit themselves and scam the common man. Thats why everyone hates scalpers its not that they were too slow to get one which they would understand why they didnt get one its because some dirtbag dogfucking lazy asshole bought the whole store out of them
@@akbop3749 Your argument is mathematically incorrect as well it doesn't function without the market works. it's obvious you're only using emotions to come to your answer. And that's why you have failed in your understanding.
4.5 million units wasn't enough to satisfy the market to begin with. if the Alternative Market only consumed 10 to 15% of those units. mostly due to the fact that the company's purposely left a loophole to be conveniently accessed for the company's benefit.
mathematically your people wouldn't have got those gaming machines anyways.
moreover all of your outrage isn't directed at the botched launch of these two new consoles.
your outrage is misplaced and targeted at the Alternative Market.
which is exactly what the big game companies want you to do.
like I said earlier you people are being played like chumps.
and I've said many times if they wanted to stop the alternative market. they would have made a registry system and not sold the game systems online.
you're quick to blame the Alternative Market. because that's what you were told and conditioned AKA program to do.
but most of you are too low IQ to realize it was the company's that set up the whole situation for free advertising.
and the game companies have been doing this for the last decade or so. so they didn't just fool you. you people really are chumps.
@@otrogreandcorgi9818 How the fuck can someone blame a company when they have a bunker full of shit that they will never use? You know what Ghenghis Khan did to his brother when he found out he was taking food from the tribe and hiding it? He killed him.