@ the disbelievers have seals over their eyes and ears and a disease in their hearts. They will believe what they want even if presented with the truth….
@@islamichistorypodcast I used to have many CONVOS with AVERY...GotNoLogic and his "CREW" on CH. Once I corner him he FREEZES and says "I'm not talking to ZERO" They would ask Avery...don't you want to address what ZERO said..."I'm not talking to ZERO" 😂😷
@@_zaaphiel this is the time to expose the liars criminals puppets traitors deceivers and all those that are full of hate like nethanyu his gang of criminals and supporters
He kinda went into a debate with brother Muhammad Ali from Muslim lantern but after getting embarrassed (he claimed to know a lot about fiqh on that issue and couldn’t even name the 4 madhabs and was caught googling and started to blush 😂😂😂) Muslim lantern kicked him pretty fast because he was essentially just trolling
Funniest (but also sad tbh) thing is I saw a smaller Christian TH-camr who had an interview with him and he genuinely asked him "you are Christian AND you are a sheikh how does that go" 😂😂😂 lmao a sheikh who doesn’t speak a word of Arabic can’t name the 4 madhabs and thinks the Quran approves the Bible, truly a genius ya sheikh
The funny thing is even Justin Martyr a church father in his famous writing dialogue with trypho chapter 72 accused Jews of corrupting the Bible. Look it up
We always noticed when the argument he presented is about to crumble, he quickly reverse the conversation to either Quran or the Prophet Muhammad. This is his tactics all along. Go and observe yourself if you don’t believe me. May Islam prevails.
The Quran is a Guardian over the Books .In their Books is 3 fold: 1That which is confirmed to be true 2 That which is confirmed to be false 3 That which is neither confirmed or denied and has no impact upon the fundamental principles of Islam.
Good job, brother. I agree with something you said, and that is using the Bible to prove Islam is something that doesn't sit right with me too. Thanks for highlighting that.
Assalamualaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh Ak! Just subbed - I appreciate your work, and ask Allahﷻ to continue to improve and grow your audience to hear! Ameen
Avery...GotNoLogic knows me very well. I have "schooled" him on many occasions when he was always on CH. Funny, just a couple days ago after MANY MONTHS from running away from CH he showed up on stage in a room Titled: "Jesus is not the Father, an Angel, or YAHWEH" He was with his buddy "StudytoShow" I went up on stage and wrote in the comments that I was aware of his presence. He RAN AWAY without ever speaking 😲🏃♂😂
God logic is full of deceit, dishonest & disrespectful. He knows he's the bibile is full of contradictions but he will never admit. Our yardstick is the holy Quran & the sunnah of the prophet peace and blessing be upon him.
Great points, I honestly don’t know why ppl go on his platform, it’s basically like all the women on Kevin Samuel’s! This shows never allow you to make an argument, ITS SHOW!
Avery can never debate people on their own platform he tried to pull the same stunt with brother Jake brancatella he tried to get Jake to leave the group chat there was currently discussing in and going into a new one with Avery being the host of the new group chat brother Jake obviously did not fall for that which lead to them debating in the current group chat that was in Avery didn’t even wanna answer Jake’s question
6:52 الله اكبر Look at the wisdom of Allah in the perfect wording of this verse. If Avery’s position were correct, this verse would say “Believe in that which is with you, for we sent it down” The fact that it DOESNT say the above is evidence of Avery’s position obviously being wrong.
SubhanAllah, the very first ayah of surah 47 goes, ''Those who reject Allah and hinder (men) from the Path of Allah,- their deeds will Allah render astray (from their mark).'' Allah hu akbr.
DogLogic kicked him out and ended the call rather then letting him prove and present more points,Muslim channel debates i have watched always patiently let the christian talk,PATHETIC!
The Quran is the criterion. You have to know the language. In their books it’s in the title The books”of” Moses not by Moses..the Gospel according to take your pick …why not Judas and Thomas
Avery trying to make it seem like Jesus was walking around quoting an auto biography when it was Matthew, Luke, Mark, and John giving us an biography about Jesus way after his lifetime. Who memorized the doctrine of Jesus during his lifetime? Especially when Christians don't even focus on preservation of their text like Muslims do. Paul who never met Jesus wrote his letters even before those Gospels were even written. So why didn't Paul mention meeting Matthew, Luke, Mark, and John if they were truly disciples who walked with Jesus? Paul only mentions James and Peter.
Salaam to All , those Guys Sam shame-On & others they never after the Truth as they would Do anything possible to shut anyone with Good Knowledge by interrupting or dismiss or even block , this their Strategy Against Muslims using weak hadith or Quran verses without context to mislead others away from the Truth , and would never talk about their add-on ,Omit , Renewed versions of the Bible . anyway this is the Test and May Allah Guide the sincere to Him .
As salaamu alaikum wa rahmatullah wa baraktuhu ahki I hope you get a chance to expose a channel under Jai and doc...they delete all the evidence against them I comment on with daleel
I thought I was the only one and so glad to see this.. I really hope that something can be done against this channel becoz the arguments are so ridiculous and no proof wat so ever but the problem also is the muslims that go on there and discuss with them without any knowledge makes it so worse
For Evrey and Scamoun will have to convince us that the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was a fraud. A Christian trying to convince a learned Muslim, is slim to none.
that word is inaccurate. People who are terrified of something avoid it at all costs. its no phobia, its most likely their financial gains that is the driver.
@@harry.flashman thats the only thing that keeps me going. the amount of deceptions that have been taught to mankind is brutal, so many people unknowingly did many things because of lies.
when in the 10 commandments God orders not to commit murder and adultery and he chooses David as a prophet to spread his message and he commits adultery and has Betsheba's husband kyllaid. You don't have to have been to Harvard to understand that the message cannot be divine. 10 commandments : 1. You will have no other gods before me. 2. You will not make any idol. 3. You will not take the name of the Lord your God in vain for evil. 4. You will make the Sabbath a memorial, a holy day. 5. Honor your father and your mother. 6. YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT MURDER. 7. YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY. 8. You will not steal. 9. You will not bear false witness against your neighbor. 10. You will not covet. The truth is that Christianity is a religion for the blind, the lazy and those of bad faith....
This whole Quran confirms the Bible argument and Quran says none can change Allah's words therefore it's saying the bible can't be corrupted argument is so stupid because if you think about it, why would Allah send the Prophet Muhammad saw and the Quran if the Quran confirms the Bible which can't be changed?
Lightweight? Methinks that you are too kinds sir, this guy reminds of the skit in the simpsons where its discovered homer has only two brain cells which in turn are constantly clashing against each other.
Nr 1 the injeel is not their false bible of today.Allah doesn't talk about the four gospels.they christians must first explain their pagan trinity to me,and u know what,nobody in this whole wide world even understand the false pagan trinity.
Wlsm yes he does take advantage of the muslims and the problem is that some Muslims that don't have the knowledge to answer him they go on his lives and just give all rong information and then he goes and attacks on Muslims.Please if anyone can get across to these Muslims not to give him that chance to do this to Islam
1. Don't be a fanboy 2. I'm not doing this for your entertainment so couldn't care less if you find it interesting or not 3. I'm not giving him free content
Debates are done with people who are open to discussing facts and logic, not mind games and dishonest tactics to score points. There's no point in debating him, as he's hell bent on his own made up interpretations of the islamic text, discarding it's context.
@@islamichistorypodcast Interesting perspective! 1. Not sure what you mean by fanboy. My comment was not a criticism, I just think that if you are so sure of your claims then debate him. I would listen to the reasons and make my mind up by listening to both perspectives, 2. I don't expect you to do any video for my entertainment but, my question to you is why bother? All videos need some level of entertainment; whether it be from an informative perspective or just purely for entertainment sake. 3. He has given you free content; you have made him and his tactics the subject of your video so, I'm not sure what you mean by free content. This is how You tube works!
@@scientiest12 You say debates are done with people who are open to discussing facts and logic. I disagree, especially where religion is concerned. Religion is not based on fact or logic, it's just one man's belief against another's. Fact and logic have nothing to do with it. To make the debate fair a moderator can be used or an independent third partly platform. So the argument for not debating him isn't valid.
@@timojazz6829 lol that's Christianity if we take your definition. Islam has enough rationality, evidences, and logic to prove it's case. Christianity doesn't have that. That's why you rarely see the Christian apologists coming up with sound arguments for Christianity or against islam, either way. Sums up my point
Yes he is well-spoken, but honestly there is plenty of Muslims who are doing dawah who are very well spoken and MUCH MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE compared to this NoLogic guy. And likes to bring along his clown companions to jeer the Muslim speaker he is engaging with.
@@islamichistorypodcastMany of your muslim brothers and sisters will disagree with you, sheikh. But my point is, Criticizing someone--who actually hosts an open online debate--by making a video, doesn't sound smart either. Why all the trouble when You can give your critique directly to him? At least, those other muslims are more noble.
avery and everyone like him is a clown. And it's pathetic how badly they need for our revelation to confirm theirs. Al Quran says it agrees with the bible where it is correct and corrects it where it is incorrect. Do you know what that means Mr No logic. It means that it agrees with some of it and not all, smh.
@@abede4598 Avery loses every debate with a half-learned person. Him debating won't change avery's views, and avery would end up just chopping clips of him "owning" without showing the response, he even did it with Sheikh Uthman 💀
On the one hand Muslims say God's words cannot be corrupted and then on the other, the Bible is corrupted, Make it make sense! In order to argue against the Bible, the first issue should be whether the bible is indeed true and not just myth and legend. What is the point in arguing that a book is corrupt when it is quite possible that the book is not factually true! If indeed the Bible is just myths and legend, that would render your beliefs redundant, and your arguments against it futile.
@@islamichistorypodcast So, the word Bible is not mentioned in the Quran, but the claim by Muslims is that it has been changed/corrupted. I'm scratching my head at this point! How can you claim it's been changed/corrupted and then claim it's not God's revelation? I'm at loss for words at this point!
@@timojazz6829 The Torah and Gospel were originally from Allah, may He be exalted, and Muslims are obliged to believe in them, because Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning): “Say (O Muslims), ‘We believe in Allah and that which has been sent down to us and that which has been sent down to Ibraaheem (Abraham), Ismaa‘eel (Ishmael), Ishaaq (Isaac), Ya‘qoob (Jacob), and to Al-Asbaat (the twelve sons of Ya‘qoob (Jacob)), and that which has been given to Moosa (Moses) and ‘Eesa (Jesus), and that which has been given to the Prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we have submitted (in Islam)’” [al-Baqarah 2:136] “O you who believe! Believe in Allah, and His Messenger (Muhammad (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him)), and the Book (the Quran)which He has sent down to His Messenger, and the Scripture which He sent down to those before (him), and whosoever disbelieves in Allah, His Angels, His Books, His Messengers, and the Last Day, then indeed he has strayed far away” [an-Nisa’ 4:136]. But the Torah and Gospel were subjected to distortion and changes. We may categorize the statements in Qur'an about those two holly books - regarding their credibility - into these categories: first category Verses that state the happening of distortion generally without mentioning the extent of that distortion nor its forms. Of these verses Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning): "Do you (faithful believers) covet that they will believe in your religion inspite of the fact that a party of them (Jewish rabbis) used to hear the Word of Allah [the Taurat (Torah)], then they used to change it knowingly after they understood it?" [al-Baqarah 2:75] and about the Children of Israel (Jews) (interpretation of the meaning): "So because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them, and made their hearts grow hard. They change the words from their (right) places and have abandoned a good part of the Message that was sent to them..." [al-Ma'idah 5:13]. second category Explicit verses stating that Jewish rabbis concealed some of their sent-down books and hid some of their facts. Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning): "Say (O Muhammad ): "Who then sent down the Book which Musa (Moses) brought, a light and a guidance to mankind which you (the Jews) have made into (separate) papersheets, disclosing (some of it) and concealing (much)..." [al-An'am 6:91] "Those to whom We gave the Scripture (Jews and Christians) recognise him (Muhammad or the Ka'bah at Makkah) as they recongise their sons. But verily, a party of them conceal the truth while they know it - [i.e. the qualities of Muhammad which are written in the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)]" [al-Baqarah 2:146] third category Verses explicitly state the happening of adding some parts that weren't originally part of these sent-down books. Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning): "And verily, among them is a party who distort the Book with their tongues (as they read), so that you may think it is from the Book, but it is not from the Book, and they say: "This is from Allah," but it is not from Allah; and they speak a lie against Allah while they know it" [al-Imran 3:78] “Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands and then say, "This is from Allah," to purchase with it a little price! Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for that they earn thereby” [al-Baqarah 2:79]. fourth category Verses stating that some of the truth was still remaining in these books in the times of prophet Muhammad (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him). Of these verses (interpretation of the meaning): "But how do they come to you for decision while they have the Taurat (Torah), in which is the (plain) Decision of Allah..." al-Ma'idah 5:43 "Say (O Muhammad ) "O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! You have nothing (as regards guidance) till you act according to the Taurat (Torah), the Injeel (Gospel), and what has (now) been sent down to you from your Lord (the Qur'an)." Verily, that which has been sent down to you (Muhammad) from your Lord increases in many of them their obstinate rebellion and disbelief. So be not sorrowful over the people who disbelieve" [al-Ma'idah 5:68] and it is stated in Qur'an that the scripture copies in the hands of the Jewish rabbis and Christians in these times had mentioned prophet Muhammad (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) (interpretation of the meaning): "Those who follow the Messenger, the Prophet who can neither read nor write (i.e.Muhammad ) whom they find written with them in the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)..." [al-A'raf 7:157] yes Quran says Gospel not GOSPELS is true al hamdulilah.. I don't see the word bible there, but Injeel, that is not the same and here is the proof: First ; the Quran nowhere confirms the bible or the four gospels written by…Nobody knows for sure. The Quran confirms the gospel given to Isa son of Mary. Injeel is certainly not the four gospels which are in the Bible today. Not to forget that Paul also says that he himself preaches a gospel. So that's 5 injeels Proof from the Bible that it ( the NT) is not the gospel that Jesus preached: Matthew 9:35 , Matthew 4:23, Mark, 1:14 indicate that Jesus was going to preach the gospel. Is that gospel what he preached: the gospel according to Mark, Matthew, Luke, John, the epistles of Paul and the epistles that have no authors? The Quran talks about the gospel (message) given to Jesus. The Qur'an also makes clear that the Torah and the Injeel are for a specific time and a specific group. The Quran clearly states that they have corrupted the scriptures according to their own desires. God's words contain no contradictions, but the Bible does: What day was Jesus crucified? According to John's Gospel, a different day from the rest. Did he die on a tree or a cross? acts of the apostles and paul say tree gospels say cross. Was he crucified outside Jerusalem or inside Jerusalem? One says outside, other says inside. What were his last words? Different. LAST WORDS!! Did he die while his mother stood by the cross or was she standing in the distance? Did Jesus ask to be saved or did he not ask? Did he carry his cross all the way by himself or did he get help? And much more. the resurrection: second point according to the NT was Jesus resurrected ON the third day or AFTER the third day? (Matthew 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.) Start calculating…. What day should he come out the fourth. So it contradicts each other because : Mark 9:31 and AFTER three days he will rise.”vs Luke 18:33 ON the third day he will rise again. For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, ( 1 Corinthians 15:3-4?) where please? remember well, he says: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures. Where do the scriptures say this? Read carefully So conclusion the Quran is right that your scriptures are corrupt and it is not a reliable source of information. The Qur'an is also correct that the crucifixion of Jesus has been assumed historical because the people thought so but there is no objective proof because it never happened according to God. No eyewitnesses.!!! corruption is 1 John 5:7, end of Mark, Woman caught in Adultery’ found in the Gospel of John 7:52-8:11, Matthew 28:19. Can you find me such curruption? Or contradictions: Jeremiah 31:32 It will not be like the covenant(B) I made with their ancestors(C) when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt,(D) because they broke my covenant, though I WAS A HUSBAND to them, declare the Lord. Hebrews 8 9 It will not be like the covenant I made with their ancestors(J) when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they did not remain faithful to my covenant, and I TURNED AWAY from them, declare the Lord. Why has the text changed??? God says in the quran that his words cannot be changed, so the conclusion is that the bible has been changed and corrupted. The injeel and the Torah are the words of God conclusion is very simple: they are not the injeel and the Torah.
@@timojazz6829 I don't even need to use the Quran to prove the Bible is corrupted you know, the numerical errors, corruption by addition and emission. theology errors, and Dozens of more. if you want to know many of them, feel free to ask 🙏
Why don’t you go on the show and dispute his claims. Most of the times when I listen to Avery and guest. The guest leave because they can’t answer his question. He seems to answer theirs.
Why don't you go and debate him. Even from what I have heard from you shows you don't know quran and you are playing word gymnastics. You won't last a minute with him.
Are you taking about "Dr" Umar? Are you serious? An ignorant uneducated fake wannabe racist Islamophobic scammer who stupid people think is smart because he talks in a certain way and uses big words they probably don't even understand? I know children who could debate him and he would lose the debate.
@@islamichistorypodcast so this guy thought saying a bunch of random accusations without validating them with any reference would have us..... worried? thanks little buddy, now go back to school. I just subscribed to your channels because of this video. mashALLAH, well done.
Avery is good buddies with Justin Martyr... They hangout together. ...😂😂😂😂 Remember that. Avery smart... Is Luke riding don keey thinking it's a horse.
@ts4095:---And you know without a doubt that the "previous scriptures have been corrupted..." because.............? And here we go...... !!!!--------"....... ?????"
@@ts4095 You could have given me a surprise and answered. Of course I did not expect an answer. For the crying and fretting about Godlogic I knew that when you get down to business and seek out clear solid positions this is what happens. But I don't blame you because it's a tough job trying to defend the ummah, the prophet and the Sheikhs.
@@islamichistorypodcast Oh but are you conceding on the other two mentioned? The Ummah and the prophet? You attribute "lies" to me? You should know that I would have expected better from you. I could say the same thing about you as you directed to Avery. You are articulate, well spoken, methodical, a really capable debater but you do not want the truth. The truth terrifies you. Is there a Muslim out there who is honest enough to deal with a question presented to him without dodging, obfuscating, twisting, denying, playing dumb and ultimately running?
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Crazy part is his audience will fact check and still agree with his lies
Because it's entertainment to them. They aren't truly seeking the truth.
Liars gather together and they only truthful about never being truthful.
No they don’t, I refuse to believe any of these guys’ fans ever fact check anything they say.
Most their audience arent even christians...they are hindus
@ the disbelievers have seals over their eyes and ears and a disease in their hearts. They will believe what they want even if presented with the truth….
doglogic is a joke. total strawman clown show
Lies of GodLogic will not last long
deception
great job, brother. I have also advised Muslims not to debate him, there is nothing to be gained for us in debatting such a deceiving character.
Exactly. All they're doing is helping these fasiqun earn money by defaming Islam.
@@islamichistorypodcast
I used to have many CONVOS with AVERY...GotNoLogic and his "CREW" on CH. Once I corner him he FREEZES and says "I'm not talking to ZERO"
They would ask Avery...don't you want to address what ZERO said..."I'm not talking to ZERO" 😂😷
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Jazakhallahu khayr for helping to expose that fraud Avery
Alhamdulillah, wa iyyak.
@@_zaaphiel this is the time to expose the liars criminals puppets traitors deceivers and all those that are full of hate like nethanyu his gang of criminals and supporters
Avery should actually debate someone who knows Islam on neutral platform
There's no money in that.
He wont never do it, even when hes shown the truth and is refuted Avery doesn't accept it
Already done and he lost. Brother Siraj sent him packing.
Alhamdu'lillah! For the video.
He kinda went into a debate with brother Muhammad Ali from Muslim lantern but after getting embarrassed (he claimed to know a lot about fiqh on that issue and couldn’t even name the 4 madhabs and was caught googling and started to blush 😂😂😂) Muslim lantern kicked him pretty fast because he was essentially just trolling
Goofylogic is using same Islamophobic websites like other Islamophobia Christian’s.
There is no point trying to debate with a dishonest person.
Funniest (but also sad tbh) thing is I saw a smaller Christian TH-camr who had an interview with him and he genuinely asked him "you are Christian AND you are a sheikh how does that go" 😂😂😂 lmao a sheikh who doesn’t speak a word of Arabic can’t name the 4 madhabs and thinks the Quran approves the Bible, truly a genius ya sheikh
The funny thing is even Justin Martyr a church father in his famous writing dialogue with trypho chapter 72 accused Jews of corrupting the Bible. Look it up
What’s his evidence? 🤔
@ he is a one of the greatest church father. Google & read chapter 72. He gives his reasons
He stops at verse 47. But he won't let you read verse 48.
For those that don't know: quran.com/4/48
Absolutely true. Thanks for working on this. Avery is deceitful... 💯✅✅😉
He's a slick talker, but his arguments are easy to dismantle.
We always noticed when the argument he presented is about to crumble, he quickly reverse the conversation to either Quran or the Prophet Muhammad. This is his tactics all along. Go and observe yourself if you don’t believe me. May Islam prevails.
The Quran is a Guardian over the Books .In their Books is 3 fold: 1That which is confirmed to be true 2 That which is confirmed to be false 3 That which is neither confirmed or denied and has no impact upon the fundamental principles of Islam.
Excellent work, brother
Much appreciated, Alhamdulillah.
Good job, brother. I agree with something you said, and that is using the Bible to prove Islam is something that doesn't sit right with me too. Thanks for highlighting that.
Yeah, I don't know why so many regular Muslims do that. Only a Muslim biblical scholar should use that tactic.
I rarely comment but Avery stuff I always do . He picks in unsuspecting Muslims mostly
Yeah, I've seen one of his street debates. Same thing. He interrupts, makes bogus claims, but doesn't give the other person time to respond.
doglogic's video in a nuthsell:You got evidences?Well i dont care, i got bills to pay😕
his name is godlogic and still says there is 3 gods in one , delusional
4:43-5:13 I literally say this all the time 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
12:40-13:05👍🏿✅💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Alhamdulillah very good points.
May Allah reward you please continue making content on this subject
Assalamualaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh Ak! Just subbed - I appreciate your work, and ask Allahﷻ to continue to improve and grow your audience to hear! Ameen
Ameen! Thank you Akhi. May Allah reward you with good.
Beautiful explained. Thank you my dear brother.
Alhamdulillah, you're welcome. And thank you for watching.
Great work. Thank you brother.
Alhamdulillah, thank you for the kind words Akhi.
Avery...GotNoLogic knows me very well. I have "schooled" him on many occasions when he was always on CH.
Funny, just a couple days ago after MANY MONTHS from running away from CH he showed up on stage in a room Titled: "Jesus is not the Father, an Angel, or YAHWEH"
He was with his buddy "StudytoShow"
I went up on stage and wrote in the comments that I was aware of his presence.
He RAN AWAY without ever speaking 😲🏃♂😂
God logic is full of deceit, dishonest & disrespectful. He knows he's the bibile is full of contradictions but he will never admit.
Our yardstick is the holy Quran & the sunnah of the prophet peace and blessing be upon him.
Great points, I honestly don’t know why ppl go on his platform, it’s basically like all the women on Kevin Samuel’s! This shows never allow you to make an argument, ITS SHOW!
Lol... that's an interesting way to put it, but yes, I see your point.
Avery can never debate people on their own platform he tried to pull the same stunt with brother Jake brancatella he tried to get Jake to leave the group chat there was currently discussing in and going into a new one with Avery being the host of the new group chat brother Jake obviously did not fall for that which lead to them debating in the current group chat that was in Avery didn’t even wanna answer Jake’s question
6:52 الله اكبر
Look at the wisdom of Allah in the perfect wording of this verse. If Avery’s position were correct, this verse would say
“Believe in that which is with you, for we sent it down”
The fact that it DOESNT say the above is evidence of Avery’s position obviously being wrong.
قال الله تعالى:
وَقَدْ نَزَّلَ عَلَيْكُمْ فِي الْكِتَابِ أَنْ إِذَا سَمِعْتُمْ آيَاتِ اللَّهِ يُكْفَرُ بِهَا وَيُسْتَهْزَأُ بِهَا فَلَا تَقْعُدُوا مَعَهُمْ حَتَّىٰ يَخُوضُوا فِي حَدِيثٍ غَيْرِهِ ۚ إِنَّكُمْ إِذًا مِّثْلُهُمْ ۗ إِنَّ اللَّهَ جَامِعُ الْمُنَافِقِينَ وَالْكَافِرِينَ فِي جَهَنَّمَ جَمِيعًا (140)
SubhanAllah, the very first ayah of surah 47 goes, ''Those who reject Allah and hinder (men) from the Path of Allah,- their deeds will Allah render astray (from their mark).'' Allah hu akbr.
Avery is rude and disrespectful. May Allah guide him to the righteous path.
DogLogic kicked him out and ended the call rather then letting him prove and present more points,Muslim channel debates i have watched always patiently let the christian talk,PATHETIC!
Subscribed!
Al-salam alikum how do you recommend I can study an gain knowledge like you jazak Allahu khair
My knowledge is extremely limited. But, if you live in the West, attend classes and lectures at your local Masjid. It's free and helps build Eeman.
@ thank you may Allah bless you amin🤲❤️
I can’t keep up with so many of it because it’s made up 😂 these islamaphobes need a hobby
Even with excessive lies,
christianity has long died.
He’s just an insincere dude…
As Salaam Alaakum, Ahki there would be no need for the Revelation of the Quran, if they hadn't tampered with the previous Scriptures.
I'm not sure I understand your comment.
@@islamichistorypodcast I missed typed, I meant. I meant they tampered with the previous Scriptures. I made corrections. Jazka Allah khair.
revelation*
Made changes. Thanks.
The Quran is the criterion.
You have to know the language. In their books it’s in the title
The books”of” Moses not by Moses..the Gospel according to take your pick …why not Judas and Thomas
Avery trying to make it seem like Jesus was walking around quoting an auto biography when it was Matthew, Luke, Mark, and John giving us an biography about Jesus way after his lifetime. Who memorized the doctrine of Jesus during his lifetime? Especially when Christians don't even focus on preservation of their text like Muslims do. Paul who never met Jesus wrote his letters even before those Gospels were even written. So why didn't Paul mention meeting Matthew, Luke, Mark, and John if they were truly disciples who walked with Jesus? Paul only mentions James and Peter.
Salaam to All , those Guys Sam shame-On & others they never after the Truth as they would Do anything possible to shut anyone with Good Knowledge by interrupting or dismiss or even block , this their Strategy Against Muslims using weak hadith or Quran verses without context to mislead others away from the Truth , and would never talk about their add-on ,Omit , Renewed versions of the Bible . anyway this is the Test and May Allah Guide the sincere to Him .
As salaamu alaikum wa rahmatullah wa baraktuhu ahki I hope you get a chance to expose a channel under Jai and doc...they delete all the evidence against them I comment on with daleel
I checked it out this morning. Most of their stuff appears to be highly edited and repurposed from other channels.
I thought I was the only one and so glad to see this.. I really hope that something can be done against this channel becoz the arguments are so ridiculous and no proof wat so ever but the problem also is the muslims that go on there and discuss with them without any knowledge makes it so worse
For Evrey and Scamoun will have to convince us that the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was a fraud. A Christian trying to convince a learned Muslim, is slim to none.
Honestly Avery. you’re afraid of the truth!
It's ok if he wants to be islamophobic, we already have Sam shamoun, David wood etc. it's his gesture that I can't stand.
Don't forget Nigeria perspective with Frank
that word is inaccurate. People who are terrified of something avoid it at all costs. its no phobia, its most likely their financial gains that is the driver.
The title is intended to mock Avery's bombastic style.
Only G-d knows and will judge our intentions. Amein.
@@harry.flashman thats the only thing that keeps me going. the amount of deceptions that have been taught to mankind is brutal, so many people unknowingly did many things because of lies.
when in the 10 commandments God orders not to commit murder and adultery and he chooses David as a prophet to spread his message and he commits adultery and has Betsheba's husband kyllaid. You don't have to have been to Harvard to understand that the message cannot be divine.
10 commandments :
1. You will have no other gods before me.
2. You will not make any idol.
3. You will not take the name of the Lord your God in vain for evil.
4. You will make the Sabbath a memorial, a holy day.
5. Honor your father and your mother.
6. YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT MURDER.
7. YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY.
8. You will not steal.
9. You will not bear false witness against your neighbor.
10. You will not covet.
The truth is that Christianity is a religion for the blind, the lazy and those of bad faith....
This whole Quran confirms the Bible argument and Quran says none can change Allah's words therefore it's saying the bible can't be corrupted argument is so stupid because if you think about it, why would Allah send the Prophet Muhammad saw and the Quran if the Quran confirms the Bible which can't be changed?
The thing is, Allah never promised to preserve any of the previous scriptures
@rarsr I know
The injeel is not the false bible.he doglogic is a lightweight.
What is the injeel then?
@asvphios9996 it is the book that was reveal to Jesus,produce the injeel which u don't have.
@@nazeemsolomons9446 what is this book and where can I find it?
@asvphios9996 read the Quran,will be better for u.
@@nazeemsolomons9446 the Quran mentions the injeel but doesn’t go into detail about it and the Quran is not the injeel.
Lightweight? Methinks that you are too kinds sir, this guy reminds of the skit in the simpsons where its discovered homer has only two brain cells which in turn are constantly clashing against each other.
Nr 1 the injeel is not their false bible of today.Allah doesn't talk about the four gospels.they christians must first explain their pagan trinity to me,and u know what,nobody in this whole wide world even understand the false pagan trinity.
Wlsm yes he does take advantage of the muslims and the problem is that some Muslims that don't have the knowledge to answer him they go on his lives and just give all rong information and then he goes and attacks on Muslims.Please if anyone can get across to these Muslims not to give him that chance to do this to Islam
Exactly. Muslims need to stop going on his show and giving him free content.
Contact Avery and debate him. This would be far more interesting!
1. Don't be a fanboy
2. I'm not doing this for your entertainment so couldn't care less if you find it interesting or not
3. I'm not giving him free content
Debates are done with people who are open to discussing facts and logic, not mind games and dishonest tactics to score points.
There's no point in debating him, as he's hell bent on his own made up interpretations of the islamic text, discarding it's context.
@@islamichistorypodcast Interesting perspective!
1. Not sure what you mean by fanboy. My comment was not a criticism, I just think that if you are so sure of your claims then debate him. I would listen to the reasons and make my mind up by listening to both perspectives,
2. I don't expect you to do any video for my entertainment but, my question to you is why bother? All videos need some level of entertainment; whether it be from an informative perspective or just purely for entertainment sake.
3. He has given you free content; you have made him and his tactics the subject of your video so, I'm not sure what you mean by free content. This is how You tube works!
@@scientiest12 You say debates are done with people who are open to discussing facts and logic. I disagree, especially where religion is concerned. Religion is not based on fact or logic, it's just one man's belief against another's. Fact and logic have nothing to do with it. To make the debate fair a moderator can be used or an independent third partly platform. So the argument for not debating him isn't valid.
@@timojazz6829 lol that's Christianity if we take your definition. Islam has enough rationality, evidences, and logic to prove it's case. Christianity doesn't have that. That's why you rarely see the Christian apologists coming up with sound arguments for Christianity or against islam, either way. Sums up my point
Yes he is well-spoken, but honestly there is plenty of Muslims who are doing dawah who are very well spoken and MUCH MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE compared to this NoLogic guy. And likes to bring along his clown companions to jeer the Muslim speaker he is engaging with.
Of course. We have to remember, these guys are entertainers. They are performing for their audience.
Everything you just said contradicts what the Quran says….and why do we need a Hadith to explain the detailed and direct word of Allah?🤔
Stop it. Nothing I said contradicts the Quran. You sound desperate because I exposed your hero.
You know, I vaguely remember the quran mentioning mark matthew luke and peter parker
@@rarsrJohn the Baptist is Yahya.
Not John the apostle.
Debate him, sheikh
Debates are stupid Mr. Servant of the Messiah.
@@islamichistorypodcastMany of your muslim brothers and sisters will disagree with you, sheikh. But my point is, Criticizing someone--who actually hosts an open online debate--by making a video, doesn't sound smart either. Why all the trouble when You can give your critique directly to him? At least, those other muslims are more noble.
avery and everyone like him is a clown.
And it's pathetic how badly they need for our revelation to confirm theirs.
Al Quran says it agrees with the bible where it is correct and corrects it where it is incorrect.
Do you know what that means Mr No logic.
It means that it agrees with some of it and not all, smh.
Avery your the best 😊
Yes, he is the best fraud.
CONTACT AVAERY AND DEBATE HIM!!!!!
Stop it. I'm not giving him free content.
@islamichistorypodcast exactly, but you creating content from him and conveniently chopping up this clip to give the viewers a biased view.
@@abede4598 Avery loses every debate with a half-learned person. Him debating won't change avery's views, and avery would end up just chopping clips of him "owning" without showing the response, he even did it with Sheikh Uthman 💀
You are free to watch his entire video and come back and tell me where's the bias and if I lied.
Godlogic and Sam aren’t Islams problem either. If we ignore them they’ll go. You’re just promoting them
I get your point. But calling this dude a fraud and lightweight is hardly promoting him.
@ promoting isn’t the correct term. Giving them more attention is what I meant
On the one hand Muslims say God's words cannot be corrupted and then on the other, the Bible is corrupted, Make it make sense!
In order to argue against the Bible, the first issue should be whether the bible is indeed true and not just myth and legend. What is the point in arguing that a book is corrupt when it is quite possible that the book is not factually true! If indeed the Bible is just myths and legend, that would render your beliefs redundant, and your arguments against it futile.
The word "Bible" is never mentioned in the Quran.
Muslims do not believe "the Bible" is Allah's revelation.
I can't make it any simpler than that.
@@islamichistorypodcast
So, the word Bible is not mentioned in the Quran, but the claim by Muslims is that it has been changed/corrupted. I'm scratching my head at this point!
How can you claim it's been changed/corrupted and then claim it's not God's revelation? I'm at loss for words at this point!
@@timojazz6829 The Torah and Gospel were originally from Allah, may He be exalted, and Muslims are obliged to believe in them, because Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Say (O Muslims), ‘We believe in Allah and that which has been sent down to us and that which has been sent down to Ibraaheem (Abraham), Ismaa‘eel (Ishmael), Ishaaq (Isaac), Ya‘qoob (Jacob), and to Al-Asbaat (the twelve sons of Ya‘qoob (Jacob)), and that which has been given to Moosa (Moses) and ‘Eesa (Jesus), and that which has been given to the Prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we have submitted (in Islam)’”
[al-Baqarah 2:136]
“O you who believe! Believe in Allah, and His Messenger (Muhammad (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him)), and the Book (the Quran)which He has sent down to His Messenger, and the Scripture which He sent down to those before (him), and whosoever disbelieves in Allah, His Angels, His Books, His Messengers, and the Last Day, then indeed he has strayed far away”
[an-Nisa’ 4:136].
But the Torah and Gospel were subjected to distortion and changes. We may categorize the statements in Qur'an about those two holly books - regarding their credibility - into these categories:
first category
Verses that state the happening of distortion generally without mentioning the extent of that distortion nor its forms. Of these verses Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):
"Do you (faithful believers) covet that they will believe in your religion inspite of the fact that a party of them (Jewish rabbis) used to hear the Word of Allah [the Taurat (Torah)], then they used to change it knowingly after they understood it?"
[al-Baqarah 2:75]
and about the Children of Israel (Jews) (interpretation of the meaning):
"So because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them, and made their hearts grow hard. They change the words from their (right) places and have abandoned a good part of the Message that was sent to them..."
[al-Ma'idah 5:13].
second category
Explicit verses stating that Jewish rabbis concealed some of their sent-down books and hid some of their facts. Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):
"Say (O Muhammad ): "Who then sent down the Book which Musa (Moses) brought, a light and a guidance to mankind which you (the Jews) have made into (separate) papersheets, disclosing (some of it) and concealing (much)..."
[al-An'am 6:91]
"Those to whom We gave the Scripture (Jews and Christians) recognise him (Muhammad or the Ka'bah at Makkah) as they recongise their sons. But verily, a party of them conceal the truth while they know it - [i.e. the qualities of Muhammad which are written in the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)]"
[al-Baqarah 2:146]
third category
Verses explicitly state the happening of adding some parts that weren't originally part of these sent-down books. Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):
"And verily, among them is a party who distort the Book with their tongues (as they read), so that you may think it is from the Book, but it is not from the Book, and they say: "This is from Allah," but it is not from Allah; and they speak a lie against Allah while they know it"
[al-Imran 3:78]
“Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands and then say, "This is from Allah," to purchase with it a little price! Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for that they earn thereby”
[al-Baqarah 2:79].
fourth category
Verses stating that some of the truth was still remaining in these books in the times of prophet Muhammad (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him). Of these verses (interpretation of the meaning):
"But how do they come to you for decision while they have the Taurat (Torah), in which is the (plain) Decision of Allah..."
al-Ma'idah 5:43
"Say (O Muhammad ) "O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! You have nothing (as regards guidance) till you act according to the Taurat (Torah), the Injeel (Gospel), and what has (now) been sent down to you from your Lord (the Qur'an)." Verily, that which has been sent down to you (Muhammad) from your Lord increases in many of them their obstinate rebellion and disbelief. So be not sorrowful over the people who disbelieve"
[al-Ma'idah 5:68]
and it is stated in Qur'an that the scripture copies in the hands of the Jewish rabbis and Christians in these times had mentioned prophet Muhammad (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) (interpretation of the meaning):
"Those who follow the Messenger, the Prophet who can neither read nor write (i.e.Muhammad ) whom they find written with them in the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)..."
[al-A'raf 7:157]
yes Quran says Gospel not GOSPELS is true al hamdulilah..
I don't see the word bible there, but Injeel, that is not the same and here is the proof:
First ; the Quran nowhere confirms the bible or the four gospels written by…Nobody knows for sure.
The Quran confirms the gospel given to Isa son of Mary.
Injeel is certainly not the four gospels which are in the Bible today. Not to forget that Paul also says that he himself preaches a gospel. So that's 5 injeels
Proof from the Bible that it ( the NT) is not the gospel that Jesus preached:
Matthew 9:35 , Matthew 4:23, Mark, 1:14 indicate that Jesus was going to preach the gospel. Is that gospel what he preached: the gospel according to Mark, Matthew, Luke, John, the epistles of Paul and the epistles that have no authors?
The Quran talks about the gospel (message) given to Jesus. The Qur'an also makes clear that the Torah and the Injeel are for a specific time and a specific group. The Quran clearly states that they have corrupted the scriptures according to their own desires.
God's words contain no contradictions, but the Bible does:
What day was Jesus crucified? According to John's Gospel, a different day from the rest.
Did he die on a tree or a cross?
acts of the apostles and paul say tree gospels say cross.
Was he crucified outside Jerusalem or inside Jerusalem? One says outside, other says inside.
What were his last words? Different. LAST WORDS!!
Did he die while his mother stood by the cross or was she standing in the distance?
Did Jesus ask to be saved or did he not ask?
Did he carry his cross all the way by himself or did he get help?
And much more.
the resurrection:
second point according to the NT was Jesus resurrected ON the third day or AFTER the third day?
(Matthew 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.) Start calculating….
What day should he come out the fourth. So it contradicts each other because : Mark 9:31 and AFTER three days he will rise.”vs Luke 18:33 ON the third day he will rise again.
For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,
that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, ( 1 Corinthians 15:3-4?) where please?
remember well, he says: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,
that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures.
Where do the scriptures say this?
Read carefully
So conclusion the Quran is right that your scriptures are corrupt and it is not a reliable source of information.
The Qur'an is also correct that the crucifixion of Jesus has been assumed historical because the people thought so but there is no objective proof because it never happened according to God. No eyewitnesses.!!!
corruption is 1 John 5:7, end of Mark, Woman caught in Adultery’ found in the Gospel of John 7:52-8:11, Matthew 28:19.
Can you find me such curruption?
Or contradictions:
Jeremiah 31:32 It will not be like the covenant(B)
I made with their ancestors(C)
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,(D)
because they broke my covenant,
though I WAS A HUSBAND to them,
declare the Lord.
Hebrews 8 9 It will not be like the covenant
I made with their ancestors(J)
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they did not remain faithful to my covenant,
and I TURNED AWAY from them,
declare the Lord.
Why has the text changed???
God says in the quran that his words cannot be changed, so the conclusion is that the bible has been changed and corrupted. The injeel and the Torah are the words of God conclusion is very simple: they are not the injeel and the Torah.
@@timojazz6829 I don't even need to use the Quran to prove the Bible is corrupted you know, the numerical errors, corruption by addition and emission. theology errors, and Dozens of more. if you want to know many of them, feel free to ask 🙏
Why don’t you go on the show and dispute his claims. Most of the times when I listen to Avery and guest. The guest leave because they can’t answer his question. He seems to answer theirs.
Stop it. That dude is a fraud and I'm not giving him free content. No Muslim should give him free content.
Because he brings up unlearned Muslims
@@MichiganTroopers123 💯 that's how he makes himself look good.
"Go on his show" so he can get more content by lying and slandering in front of the most ignorant audience on earth.
watch jake brancatella there you have your disputes ;)
Why don't you go and debate him. Even from what I have heard from you shows you don't know quran and you are playing word gymnastics. You won't last a minute with him.
You mad because I exposed your hero?
Are you taking about "Dr" Umar? Are you serious? An ignorant uneducated fake wannabe racist Islamophobic scammer who stupid people think is smart because he talks in a certain way and uses big words they probably don't even understand? I know children who could debate him and he would lose the debate.
@@islamichistorypodcast so this guy thought saying a bunch of random accusations without validating them with any reference would have us..... worried?
thanks little buddy, now go back to school.
I just subscribed to your channels because of this video.
mashALLAH, well done.
Avery is good buddies with Justin Martyr... They hangout together. ...😂😂😂😂 Remember that. Avery smart... Is Luke riding don keey thinking it's a horse.
at least 10 million muslims know the quran by heart. How many christians know one(!) chapter by heart?
we are not the same ;)
All u need to know is previous scriptures have been corrupted and that’s all a Muslim needs to know whether the rest believe it or not !!!
@ts4095:---And you know without a doubt that the "previous scriptures have been corrupted..." because.............? And here we go...... !!!!--------"....... ?????"
@ yes go by urself
@@ts4095 You could have given me a surprise and answered. Of course I did not expect an answer. For the crying and fretting about Godlogic I knew that when you get down to business and seek out clear solid positions this is what happens. But I don't blame you because it's a tough job trying to defend the ummah, the prophet and the Sheikhs.
Nobody's defending the Sheikhs. At least be consistent in your lies.
@@islamichistorypodcast Oh but are you conceding on the other two mentioned? The Ummah and the prophet?
You attribute "lies" to me? You should know that I would have expected better from you. I could say the same thing about you as you directed to Avery. You are articulate, well spoken, methodical, a really capable debater but you do not want the truth. The truth terrifies you.
Is there a Muslim out there who is honest enough to deal with a question presented to him without dodging, obfuscating, twisting, denying, playing dumb and ultimately running?