Have we reached peak China?

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ต.ค. 2024

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  • @ronaldgarrison8478
    @ronaldgarrison8478 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I reached peak china last year, when I threw out a bunch of old, scratched-up dinnerware. Bought a smaller, much better set. Solved my china crisis. Sometimes less is more.

  • @danilmiroshnikov6130
    @danilmiroshnikov6130 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very interesting conversation especially in this geopolitical context around China, US, and Taiwan. Thank you professor.

  • @tim333y7
    @tim333y7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Very interesting conversation

  • @eliasrutten3814
    @eliasrutten3814 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mr Fukuyama, at 5:11 the guest says that China is a bank driven financial system and that growth will stall because of the debt rollovers, why is this the case? Thank you!

    • @dgib1694
      @dgib1694 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My guess is that growth is in a great proportion dependent on investment (not consumers) and investment depends largely on bank lending. Other means to raise and concentrate capital are underdeveloped in China.

  • @JohnTr5
    @JohnTr5 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The US should be happy what China is achieve because of many Chinese learned from the US and the west. There are no countries in the world can lift up 800 poor people to mid class level society enough food, clothes and shelter.

  • @MangyForestCat
    @MangyForestCat ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you professor.

  • @duuuu1234
    @duuuu1234 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds more like a mod to slow grow China not a peak China like it's going downward from now on. As long as China is still maintain bigger growth rate than US, it's still on the track. Higher than 2% doesn't seems like an unrealistic goal for China for a long time.

    • @dgib1694
      @dgib1694 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not really because of its demographics and the still large proportion of the population living in quite poor conditions in the countryside and that are asking to join the low middle class, China needs a high growth rate otherwise social instability is a serious risk. Unemployment, especially among youth, is a problem.

  • @mikelis106
    @mikelis106 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    when you say all of this, somehow it does not click in my mind. their population is 8 times that of japan, and by PPP their gdp is already the biggest in the world. It would take for the usd to lose predominance for china to the the top one. I somehow don't see 14 billion people working the way chinese work and not generating growth.

    • @mikelis106
      @mikelis106 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      of course, let's see how their debts play out.

    • @qingzhou9983
      @qingzhou9983 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mikelis106
      Vast majority of Chinese Debt are internal and RMB denominated. So the worse it gets is the Inflation, printing money to pay the debt. And China has not have an inflation issue for almost 4 decades now. So it still has huge room to grow. This is very similar to Japan, who has more debt per GDP than China with deflation in past few decades.
      Eventually inflation will catch up, just like US now. But no one know when.

    • @mikelis106
      @mikelis106 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@qingzhou9983 very wellreasoned

    • @mikelis106
      @mikelis106 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@qingzhou9983 According to google: As of 2022, about 38% of China's external debt is denominated in renminbi (RMB), while the remaining 62% is denominated in foreign currencies, mostly U.S. dollars. This means that China's external debt is not fully hedged against exchange rate risk. If the value of the RMB were to fall against the U.S. dollar, it would increase the cost of repaying China's foreign currency debt.
      The Chinese government has been trying to reduce the share of its external debt that is denominated in foreign currencies. In 2021, the government issued a new regulation that requires all new foreign currency loans to be converted into RMB within three years. This regulation is designed to reduce the country's exposure to exchange rate risk.

    • @mangonut
      @mangonut ปีที่แล้ว

      1. China’s reporting is nothing like the reporting in the US. Chinas gdp is closer to 6T, no where near the 19T they claim
      2. Their population is under 1B
      3. Their debts are closer to 100T
      The problem is the centralization of their government incentivizes the inflation of positive numbers and the underreporting of negative numbers. Compound those numbers over decades and even Li Kechang said that the numbers from China are all “man made”
      Don’t believe numbers coming from China
      The reason why they haven’t collapsed yet is because it’s a dictatorship communist system, meaning banks are owned by the state and the state has access to the populace’s deposits.
      There’s a reason why the people are having problems and restrictions on withdrawing cash….

  • @gc9917
    @gc9917 ปีที่แล้ว

    These guys are making fun of China is struggling to grow at 6 percent and debt for infrastructure. If 6 or 5 percent growth is bad, how about 1 percent? Even the debt for infrastructure is bad, least least you got something at your home and it is still better than trillions of dollars national debt for nothing, isn’t it? Maybe the stanford scholar can use his one course economy knowledge to tell me if the 1-2 trillion dollar yearly budget deficits is sustainable?

  • @mikemikeyee
    @mikemikeyee ปีที่แล้ว

    Mhm

  • @0xdeed771
    @0xdeed771 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Is it the end of history yet?

    • @toastinggoodness
      @toastinggoodness ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That only happens when the liberals stop time itself

    • @umangmalik
      @umangmalik ปีที่แล้ว +2

      inshallah

    • @高礼福
      @高礼福 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The real history did not end as predicted, So now, They try to create a parallels history.

    • @mikemikeyee
      @mikemikeyee ปีที่แล้ว

      Mhm

    • @williedigital
      @williedigital ปีที่แล้ว

      Kinda. The idea that the cold war could heat up and the dominant effect is amount of screentime devoted to military strategy in Bakhmut kinda proves. We are all consumers now.