Wow, all of this looks so complex, and complicated. I assume this setup is for correctly tapering a pool cue butt? It was a really interesting video. The complexity is way over my head though.
do you have a link for the dead centers and micrometers you use with mounts for the determining your run out? love you set up just trying to figure out which add on's that I will need to buy to keep it calibrated and running true. and how much those will cost.
Thank you. Here is the link to the dead center. www.cuecomponents.com/deadcenter.html For the dial indicator, I got it from Amazon. Just get one with the magnetic arm. I also the the Edge Tech bar from Amazon. www.amazon.com/Edge-Technology-Tailstock-Alignment-Bar/dp/B01MFCAY27/ref=sxin_15_ac_d_bv?ac_md=0-0-QnVkZ2V0IFBpY2s%3D-ac_d_bv_bv_bv&content-id=amzn1.sym.8f2bf95d-b9c2-4e6d-96a9-5fdf77a1951d%3Aamzn1.sym.8f2bf95d-b9c2-4e6d-96a9-5fdf77a1951d&crid=NJ63VDJLY2RC&cv_ct_cx=edge+technology&keywords=edge+technology&pd_rd_i=B01MFCAY27&pd_rd_r=ce04e78d-e6fb-4cf6-aa22-d3abe04b4915&pd_rd_w=oFjHi&pd_rd_wg=NmKyZ&pf_rd_p=8f2bf95d-b9c2-4e6d-96a9-5fdf77a1951d&pf_rd_r=5Y13V6G5A8JCCWE15QKZ&qid=1674592794&sprefix=Edge+te%2Caps%2C92&sr=1-1-270ce31b-afa8-499f-878b-3bb461a9a5a6 www.amazon.com/s?k=dial+indicator&ref=nb_sb_noss_2 Hope this helps. Thank you again for commenting and please share.
Does the dead center on the head stock have enough pressure to turn the wood without any slippage? That something I’m concerned about before but this vs another cue lathe.
The dead center works. Now I use one live center and one spring loaded dead center. Dead centers should not determine which lathe to get, customer service should be number one. Things break and get replacement parts and mods are more important and that is why I got a Mid American Cue Lathe. Thank you for commenting, don’t forget to subscribe and please share.
Hey man, your videos are awesome. Thank you so much I just ordered the same exact lathe from mid America.!! Please help me with this question : If I put a blank cue butt/shaft in the machine (a long wooden dowel) how can I use that machine to taper into a pool cue? For example, from 32mm down to 21 mm. And 21mm down to 12mm. How can I set up my machine to do that? Please help! Thank you!
The shafts I get are finished oversized. I just have to taper the joint end. I tried one where I had to taper the whole shaft, I think I could have done it if I had the power feed. With the power feed we just have to adjust the router to our taper. Thank you for commenting, please subscribe if haven’t already and please share. Also if you have any questions please ask and I will do my best to answer them.
My headstock is around 2 thousandths. It’s not perfect but with the Edge it’s perfect. My other headstock was at 7-8 and the way i got it to about 2 is: 1 use a pencil to number the jaws. Number them one thought 4. 2 use the pencil to mark the wheel that holds the jaws also one to four. 3 now insert the dead center and make the dead center also 1-4 Everything should lineup. 4 check your run out and see where it is getting 7 thousandths Say it is at marking 3. Remember that. 5 now clock the dead center 90 degrees. One on the dead center should be at two on the jaws and wheel of the headstock. 6 check the run out Did the 7 thousandths follow the dead center, meaning the 7 thousandths is now reading on jaw 4 and wheel 4 on the head stock. If 7 thousandths followed then it’s a bad dead center. If 7 thousandths did now follow meaning the 7 thousandths run out is still at jaw 3 and wheel wheel then the head stock is of center. For a head stock that is off With a good dead center, where is the 7 thousandths you might be able to reposition the jaw to the wheel. All it needs is to move 3.5 thousandths down. Now recheck the run out. If the jaw does not move, same results go to the opposite jaw loosen and reposition. Recheck runout. It that does now work 1 loosen the two bolts securing the jaws numbered one and three to the wheel 2 now try installing jaw one to three and jaw three to one see if the run out got better or worse. 3 repeat rotating the jaws to the wheel to see what works. I had to rotate my jaw 1 to wheel 2 ( jaw 2 to wheel 1) and jaw 3 to wheel 4 (jaw 4 to wheel 3) and the best was 2 thousandths. Hope this helps and please share.
@@playpool12fyao ok. Seems like the dead center is fine since it did not follow as I rotate to each jaw. Moving the jaws around I did but didn’t improve much. I do notice the common denominator is jaw 4(facing me) which would always give me the most runout no matter where I relocate it. I’m thinking I should sand the opposite jaws from it (#2) to see if that helps.
@@playpool12fyao smh . Decided to to swap jaws with a rear stead rest to see if it helps, I loosen jaw 2 a little and the runout went down to 3 thousandth. Maybe I’m over tighten these soft jaws. I might loose the others a bit to see what happens. Would love to get it down more but 3 thousandth isn’t too bad.
Is this aluminum lathe better than the steel one? the tail seems to be wobbly on the bed and not sure how that stays in spec or in place as you do your work. For your metal mini-lathe there are lathe bed extensions you could have gotten. So what do you think as comparison? I too am looking for a lathe to break into my pool cue making and repair as a hobbyist and not sure the route to go. Any recommendations?
For the price and for what it can do, this is an awesome cue lathe. It’s a cue lathe not a metal lathe. But for accurate boring, any person that has a lathe from the China lathe to an industrial professional stand alone build in the US of A lathe, drill first then use a boring bar or a reamer to get precise dimensions. The tailstock is for holding my live center and to start a “drill hole”. Check out my videos on how I made my cue. I think I’m one of the very few on TH-cam that is willing to shows on how to make a cue from cue blanks. I also mention that I purchase some of the blanks from another company and I give them credit for it. th-cam.com/play/PLgwPCq9_WPivPiaBNcKL5ApA9Nk0TDkdl.html Thank you for commenting, please subscribe if haven’t already and please share.
No special brand. I got it with the magnetic base to guarantee the arm can hold the dial indicator. Also make sure to get one that reads up to .001 accurate or even better .00001. The more zeros the better it is but it’s more expensive. Just in case, I ordered mine through Amazon Thank you for commenting, please subscribe if haven’t already and please share.
@@playpool12fyao Do you have anyway of telling who your subscribers are? It would be a lot better to thank them for being a subscriber instead of asking them to subscribe if there not.
Unfortunately not my ipad. TH-cam Studio just tells me if I have comments. I have not found it yet on TH-cam Studio, I think that is one update they need to do or I have been looking at the wrong place. Thank you again for commenting and thank you for subscribing.
You can order a power feed for the lathe. For me, I’m not trying to make cues to make a living. Have to do it manually for one or two cues within 6 months does not justify for me to get a power slide. Thank you for commenting and please share.
I bought the same lathe couple weeks ago and have noticed quite a bit of vibration on the tailstock end after offsetting it for the taper. Were you having this problem and if so how did you solve it?
No, are you using a live center tool on the tailstock. If not that might be one of the problem. I use a dead center on the headstock and a live center on the tailstock and I place a just enough pressure to turn the wood and not stall when cutting with the router. Hope this helps and please share.
Your welcome and thank you for commenting, please subscribe if haven’t already and please share. As for the price here is the link on where I got my lathe. I have more links on the description. www.midamericapool.com/professional-large-bore-headstock.html
Todd from Mid American might be able to answer your questions better. Link to his website is in my video description. Thank you for commenting and please share.
The indicator does not have the name of the maker on it. I got it on amazon a while back. It measures to .005 tolerance 0-1”. Thank you for commenting and please share.
I customized my tail stock to be a screw style using a 3/8-24 rod and tapped sleeve to replace the ram style that comes with this lathe. Also replaced all the 10-32's with quick release handles. That eliminated the need for using an Allen key every 5 seconds. An easy way to align the head stock and tail stock is to mount a 1/2" test bar in the head stock and bring your tail stock into the test bar with the ram removed and just slide the tail stock onto the test bar that's already in the head stock.
Thank you for sharing your information. I like that 1/2” test bar. I need to do that when I need to realign my head stock to my tail stock. Thank you for commenting and please share.
The setup includes a strong continuous duty 3/4 HP DC motor with full variable speed control, reversible rotation switch and a plug-in foot control for doing rewraps. To get more information, click on the link in my video description to go to Mid American Cue Lathe website. Mid American can give you a better answer. Thank you for commenting and please share.
Its a Ridgid. For finishing cut I use a 6 wing cutting bite. Hope this helps and thank you for commenting again. Link for router. www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-5-5-Amp-Compact-Fixed-Base-Corded-Router-R24012/100337039
It is a pitty that the tail stock support system doesn't have screw adjustment. It would make setting up a lot easier. Never the less it works and many thanks for the video.
Agree but it can be changed. I just haven’t done it and I don’t use my lathe to often for me to change it. Maybe in the future. Thank you for commenting, please subscribe if haven’t already and please share.
We're shutting down again in late Oct since the infection and death rate is rising. Don't make the mistake of being in an enclosed room with strangers for another 6 to 8 months.
Thank you for commenting. I actually got the information from a VHS converted to TH-cam. I just tried to simplify it. Don’t forget to subscribe if you haven’t already and please share.
Sorry I couldn’t help. If you have questions please don’t hesitate to ask. I will do my best to answer them. Thank you for commenting and thank you subscribing.
More information on the lathe in this video to include link where I got it in the description.
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Wow, all of this looks so complex, and complicated. I assume this setup is for correctly tapering a pool cue butt? It was a really interesting video. The complexity is way over my head though.
Great work space and bench!
Thank you and thank you commenting again.
Without the router setup, how much did it cost? Don't have to give details, just a generalization.
@Danks-vz5xz for full price, please contact Mid American Cue. I have the link to the website on my description. Thank you for commenting.
do you have a link for the dead centers and micrometers you use with mounts for the determining your run out?
love you set up just trying to figure out which add on's that I will need to buy to keep it calibrated and running true. and how much those will cost.
Thank you. Here is the link to the dead center.
www.cuecomponents.com/deadcenter.html
For the dial indicator, I got it from Amazon. Just get one with the magnetic arm. I also the the Edge Tech bar from Amazon.
www.amazon.com/Edge-Technology-Tailstock-Alignment-Bar/dp/B01MFCAY27/ref=sxin_15_ac_d_bv?ac_md=0-0-QnVkZ2V0IFBpY2s%3D-ac_d_bv_bv_bv&content-id=amzn1.sym.8f2bf95d-b9c2-4e6d-96a9-5fdf77a1951d%3Aamzn1.sym.8f2bf95d-b9c2-4e6d-96a9-5fdf77a1951d&crid=NJ63VDJLY2RC&cv_ct_cx=edge+technology&keywords=edge+technology&pd_rd_i=B01MFCAY27&pd_rd_r=ce04e78d-e6fb-4cf6-aa22-d3abe04b4915&pd_rd_w=oFjHi&pd_rd_wg=NmKyZ&pf_rd_p=8f2bf95d-b9c2-4e6d-96a9-5fdf77a1951d&pf_rd_r=5Y13V6G5A8JCCWE15QKZ&qid=1674592794&sprefix=Edge+te%2Caps%2C92&sr=1-1-270ce31b-afa8-499f-878b-3bb461a9a5a6
www.amazon.com/s?k=dial+indicator&ref=nb_sb_noss_2
Hope this helps. Thank you again for commenting and please share.
Does the dead center on the head stock have enough pressure to turn the wood without any slippage? That something I’m concerned about before but this vs another cue lathe.
The dead center works. Now I use one live center and one spring loaded dead center. Dead centers should not determine which lathe to get, customer service should be number one. Things break and get replacement parts and mods are more important and that is why I got a Mid American Cue Lathe. Thank you for commenting, don’t forget to subscribe and please share.
Hey man, your videos are awesome. Thank you so much I just ordered the same exact lathe from mid America.!!
Please help me with this question :
If I put a blank cue butt/shaft in the machine (a long wooden dowel) how can I use that machine to taper into a pool cue? For example, from 32mm down to 21 mm. And 21mm down to 12mm.
How can I set up my machine to do that?
Please help!
Thank you!
PM me on Facebook. I can help you on your setup. Thank you for commenting, please subscribe if haven’t already and please share.
Your doing great work I love watching your vids
Thank you and thank you for commenting.
Hello I still make cues billiards, but I would like a machine like this.
Where did you buy it?
read the description. jeesh
Thanks! This helped a lot! Tapering my first butt on this setup tomorrow! Have you tapers a shaft on this yet?
The shafts I get are finished oversized. I just have to taper the joint end. I tried one where I had to taper the whole shaft, I think I could have done it if I had the power feed. With the power feed we just have to adjust the router to our taper. Thank you for commenting, please subscribe if haven’t already and please share. Also if you have any questions please ask and I will do my best to answer them.
I have the same lathe. I have runouts about 7 thousandths with a dead center from cue components. Any suggestions to truing them?
Thanks in advance,
My headstock is around 2 thousandths. It’s not perfect but with the Edge it’s perfect. My other headstock was at 7-8 and the way i got it to about 2 is:
1 use a pencil to number the jaws. Number them one thought 4.
2 use the pencil to mark the wheel that holds the jaws also one to four.
3 now insert the dead center and make the dead center also 1-4
Everything should lineup.
4 check your run out and see where it is getting 7 thousandths
Say it is at marking 3. Remember that.
5 now clock the dead center 90 degrees.
One on the dead center should be at two on the jaws and wheel of the headstock.
6 check the run out
Did the 7 thousandths follow the dead center, meaning the 7 thousandths is now reading on jaw 4 and wheel 4 on the head stock.
If 7 thousandths followed then it’s a bad dead center.
If 7 thousandths did now follow meaning the 7 thousandths run out is still at jaw 3 and wheel wheel then the head stock is of center.
For a head stock that is off
With a good dead center, where is the 7 thousandths you might be able to reposition the jaw to the wheel. All it needs is to move 3.5 thousandths down. Now recheck the run out.
If the jaw does not move, same results go to the opposite jaw loosen and reposition. Recheck runout.
It that does now work
1 loosen the two bolts securing the jaws numbered one and three to the wheel
2 now try installing jaw one to three and jaw three to one see if the run out got better or worse.
3 repeat rotating the jaws to the wheel to see what works.
I had to rotate my jaw 1 to wheel 2 ( jaw 2 to wheel 1) and jaw 3 to wheel 4 (jaw 4 to wheel 3) and the best was 2 thousandths.
Hope this helps and please share.
@@playpool12fyao thanks. I’ll report back once I play with it.
@@playpool12fyao ok. Seems like the dead center is fine since it did not follow as I rotate to each jaw. Moving the jaws around I did but didn’t improve much. I do notice the common denominator is jaw 4(facing me) which would always give me the most runout no matter where I relocate it. I’m thinking I should sand the opposite jaws from it (#2) to see if that helps.
@@playpool12fyao smh . Decided to to swap jaws with a rear stead rest to see if it helps, I loosen jaw 2 a little and the runout went down to 3 thousandth. Maybe I’m over tighten these soft jaws. I might loose the others a bit to see what happens. Would love to get it down more but 3 thousandth isn’t too bad.
That’s not bad 3 thousandths will work. If you want 0 run out, you have to use paper as shims. Hope this helps and please share.
Is this aluminum lathe better than the steel one? the tail seems to be wobbly on the bed and not sure how that stays in spec or in place as you do your work. For your metal mini-lathe there are lathe bed extensions you could have gotten. So what do you think as comparison? I too am looking for a lathe to break into my pool cue making and repair as a hobbyist and not sure the route to go. Any recommendations?
For the price and for what it can do, this is an awesome cue lathe. It’s a cue lathe not a metal lathe. But for accurate boring, any person that has a lathe from the China lathe to an industrial professional stand alone build in the US of A lathe, drill first then use a boring bar or a reamer to get precise dimensions. The tailstock is for holding my live center and to start a “drill hole”. Check out my videos on how I made my cue. I think I’m one of the very few on TH-cam that is willing to shows on how to make a cue from cue blanks. I also mention that I purchase some of the blanks from another company and I give them credit for it.
th-cam.com/play/PLgwPCq9_WPivPiaBNcKL5ApA9Nk0TDkdl.html
Thank you for commenting, please subscribe if haven’t already and please share.
Your dial indicators look nice and large. Where did you purchase them?
Ignore, I found where you bought them any special brand to purchase?
No special brand. I got it with the magnetic base to guarantee the arm can hold the dial indicator. Also make sure to get one that reads up to .001 accurate or even better .00001. The more zeros the better it is but it’s more expensive. Just in case, I ordered mine through Amazon Thank you for commenting, please subscribe if haven’t already and please share.
@@playpool12fyao Do you have anyway of telling who your subscribers are? It would be a lot better to thank them for being a subscriber instead of asking them to subscribe if there not.
Unfortunately not my ipad. TH-cam Studio just tells me if I have comments. I have not found it yet on TH-cam Studio, I think that is one update they need to do or I have been looking at the wrong place. Thank you again for commenting and thank you for subscribing.
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Does the lathe have a built-in taper feature
No. The tailstock has to be adjusted to set the tapper.
Does this lathe have a power feed side to side or do you have to manually move router side to side?
You can order a power feed for the lathe. For me, I’m not trying to make cues to make a living. Have to do it manually for one or two cues within 6 months does not justify for me to get a power slide. Thank you for commenting and please share.
what router bit do you use for you finsh cut
6 wing cutter.
www.cuecomponents.com/smcu6flrobla.html
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Great video.
Thank you and thank you for commenting again.
Where can I buy the dial indicators for the lathe?
I bought mine at Amazon. Hope this helps and thank you for commenting.
I bought the same lathe couple weeks ago and have noticed quite a bit of vibration on the tailstock end after offsetting it for the taper. Were you having this problem and if so how did you solve it?
No, are you using a live center tool on the tailstock. If not that might be one of the problem. I use a dead center on the headstock and a live center on the tailstock and I place a just enough pressure to turn the wood and not stall when cutting with the router. Hope this helps and please share.
How much does this setup cost? And thank you for tutorial.
Your welcome and thank you for commenting, please subscribe if haven’t already and please share. As for the price here is the link on where I got my lathe. I have more links on the description.
www.midamericapool.com/professional-large-bore-headstock.html
Do the gear teeth go all the way end to end...or is it in only in sections?
The gear goes the whole bed. The bed of the lathe is 48 inch. Hope this helps and please share.
Where u. By this machine
All the links are in the description and pinned on the comment. Thank you for commenting.
what is the tolerance of this machine? 0.1 mm? less?
Todd from Mid American might be able to answer your questions better. Link to his website is in my video description. Thank you for commenting and please share.
What dial indicator are you using?
The indicator does not have the name of the maker on it. I got it on amazon a while back. It measures to .005 tolerance 0-1”. Thank you for commenting and please share.
I could use it. Very well please
Preciso de um torno desses.
Como faço pra adquirir?
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I customized my tail stock to be a screw style using a 3/8-24 rod and tapped sleeve to replace the ram style that comes with this lathe. Also replaced all the 10-32's with quick release handles. That eliminated the need for using an Allen key every 5 seconds. An easy way to align the head stock and tail stock is to mount a 1/2" test bar in the head stock and bring your tail stock into the test bar with the ram removed and just slide the tail stock onto the test bar that's already in the head stock.
Thank you for sharing your information. I like that 1/2” test bar. I need to do that when I need to realign my head stock to my tail stock. Thank you for commenting and please share.
What model and make motor is this?
The setup includes a strong continuous duty 3/4 HP DC motor with full variable speed control, reversible rotation switch and a plug-in foot control for doing rewraps.
To get more information, click on the link in my video description to go to Mid American Cue Lathe website. Mid American can give you a better answer. Thank you for commenting and please share.
what router are u using.....
Its a Ridgid. For finishing cut I use a 6 wing cutting bite. Hope this helps and thank you for commenting again.
Link for router.
www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-5-5-Amp-Compact-Fixed-Base-Corded-Router-R24012/100337039
Where the place can i buy?
retrovodka www.midamericapool.com
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It is a pitty that the tail stock support system doesn't have screw adjustment. It would make setting up a lot easier. Never the less it works and many thanks for the video.
Agree but it can be changed. I just haven’t done it and I don’t use my lathe to often for me to change it. Maybe in the future. Thank you for commenting, please subscribe if haven’t already and please share.
Hi this is larry how are you still not shooting pool .If they dont shut down again I will play
We're shutting down again in late Oct since the infection and death rate is rising. Don't make the mistake of being in an enclosed room with strangers for another 6 to 8 months.
Hol I like to greet you from Colombia I would like to acquire your repair machine of billiards tacos as I could acquire it
Hi please contact Todd at Mid American Cue Lathe.
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Kalau di rupiah kan berapa harga nya?
How much Sir?
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This guy is “ TOO SMART “ for me but very interesting 🤨
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Hm
Lost.
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