A Suppressor on a Glock 19… Does It Really Work?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2024
- Lenny Magill goes over a brief history of suppressors and then shows how they work. He goes through a series of tests, indoors and outside, to see if they are actually effective for hearing protection.
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Not many Americans appreciate that in the UK we normally have suppressors on all our rifles, from .22 to full calibre 308 etc. If you forget to specify a suppressor for any new calibre that you are applying for on your licence, the Police licensing authority usually remind you to add it. Here it is regarded as a necessity under Health and Safety as head mounted hearing protectors do not always protect the hearing in all conditions. You cannot hunt deer on crown or forestry commission property without a suppressor fitted. We have also been able to purchase integrally suppressed shotguns for over 50 years. A popular model is an integrally suppressed Mossberg 500 in 410, 20 or 12 gauge.
You know what...you just made me realize why suppressor ownership in the "freedom land" is so expensive. It's related to health and safety. This shit might as well be just tacked onto our stupid fucking health insurance premiums. Why own a simple suppressor when I can simply buy $200 electronic earmuffs that allow me to hear without damaging the hearing of anyone around me? God damn this stupid country is so fucking selfish even with it's biggest problems!!!!
Edit to add: We can let people shoot up schools all day long, but fuck me if I want to plink and hunt semi-quietly.
The more I think about it the more this stupid shit just enrages me.
in the US, our politicians are particularly stupid, corrupt and gutless while a large portion of our population are ignorant, stupid and easily swayed by the dimwits in Hollywood.
Imagine the UK being more 2A in a way than the US. People here are so behind on suppressors. They watch too much Hollywood and think only hitmen need them.
You Bongs have it pretty nice when it comes to that
Rather not.. I prefer not have too go though all that BS work to even own a gun in UK.. I like walking in store with cash and leave with gun in 30mins..
A NUMBER of European countries REQUIRE the use of suppressors for both range and hunting. It is actually considered impolite (or unlawful) to NOT use one.
HAHAHAHAHA. I love that.
those european countries are braindamaged. Sucks to live there then
i dont know why is forbiden in other countries
Lenny Maglock looks reborn once he left CA to good ol Nashville
Yeah. Lenny’s looking good!
Makes sense. All those years being into firearms and yet, so far away from really being able to enjoy his 2A freedoms. Now that he’s in Tennessee, the sky’s the limit. Reminds me of the insanity my wallet felt after I moved from NJ to PA.
you are right.Uncle Lenny looking more relaxed.
Dude is such a squirrel. But, hes got a great attitude.
Them Benjis do wonders to the skin
Repeal the NFA! Abolish the ATF
Lighten up Francis
Amen...there's s bill put in to just that with senators from GA, Az, and FL.
Texas has entered the chat
Full auto and suppressed weapons should be regulated..
@@clemfandango5908 All gun laws are an infringement of our rights!
The safety feature alone is worth the price of admission. Reducing the noise reduced the impact on your hearing weather you are hunting or range shooting. They just make total sense
Absolutely! The stigma associated with silencers is complete horse shit. Liberal logic - muffler on your car or Harley, REQUIRED. A muffler on your pistol - Absolutely not! Complete lunacy. If you do not have any "cans" yet, take the plunge just be careful, they have a habit of multiplying quick. I have a total of 4 stamps now lol (2 cans, an SBR, and a full auto).
@TrUmP AmErIcA You have to pay more taxes. Each suppressor, sbr, pre 1986 full auto etc. requires a separate $200 tax stamp for each individual item.
Whether, not weather.
@@wehrewulf sorry, didn't mean the offend the frailties of the grammar police
Its not a 20% change in amplitude, every 10 dB is 10X more than previous so a reduction of ~20dB is actually 100x quieter.
also that sound reading was hardly accurate.
Everything over 120 db causes damage immediately. 130 dB is 10 times loader. 140 dB is 100x louder.
@@bermchasin I agree that the readings were clearly incorrect however the same equipment was used for both tests so it still is fair to compare.
10bB is a factor of 10 in power, not amplitude. For amplitude, it’s 20dB for a factor of 10 reduction. Still very good though.
The 22db noise reduction is logarithmic or 99% reduction in sound pressure but 75% reduction in perceived noise. Still not hearing safe.
If the "tax stamp" suppose to be a governmental vetting process, then why aren't you allowed to have the suppressor in certain states even after the vetting? It's all a money racket!
i'm wondering if it's also a registration racket too
ATF is a division of the treasury department. It's always about money.
More like control.
Hey, just shut your mouth and pay your protection money or they'll shoot you dog, destroy your house and or business, and kidnap you and or your family.
@@otherbob23
They will do it anyway.
A 20 dB reduction in sound from 120 to 100 (rounded) is drastically more than 20% because sound uses a logarithmic scale.
exactly, 3dB is times two, 10dB is times ten and 20dB is times a hundred
I wish Lenny was my dad no joke , such a cool dude with great knowledge,
Thanks for the vid Lenny I will vist the store one day
Have a great day
Pro tip: put a 19 lb recoil spring on your Glock 19 and that will delay the slide action by a little bit. It’s like going from carb to H buffer in an AR. It’ll give you a lot quieter performance. I did this on my Glock 19 with my SilencerCo 36M and it is insane! It’s far quieter
damn what ammo are you using because a 19 pound spring with a supressot will not cycle
what kinda barrel u running w that silencerco suppressor and which supressor model did u buy?
im about to build a gen 5 19 and what the absolute best setup (reliability and quietest)
It’s actually best to lighten the recoil spring for suppressed pistols to make them more reliable. I have a g43x that would hiccup once every 20 or so rounds. Changed the spring to 15lb . Runs like a sewing machine.
@@jonboy9734 what can are you runnin?
@@irishdixie77 banish 45 for my pistols .
A few years back, I purchased a Glock 21SF with a factory threaded barrel. For the life of me, I couldn't determine the thread pitch...it's not marked on the barrel, noted in the manual, or promoted anywhere on Glock's website/catalog. I attended an event at a local range where I met a Glock sales rep, and even he didn't know! FYI, it's 16x1 LF
Got a full tour of the store the other day. Seriously impressive.
Thanks, we enjoyed having you! Next time, you'll have to stay longer and try out the ranges.
This is a great video for anyone considering a suppressor. I bought a suppressor from the Silencer Shop for my 9mm Walter PPQ. It took about 10 months for me to get my suppressor. The actual sound suppression is about 30 dB. When I bought a threaded barrel for the Walther it came with a stronger recoil spring with instructions to use that spring when shooting with a suppressor. Using a 147 grain bullet I had issues with the action so I went back to the original recoil spring. You will get more blow back gasses with a suppressor so wear glasses. The Walther is my primary home defense weapon so if I had to use it inside the sound unsuppressed would degrade my ability to hear. One more thing, I think a suppressor works better on a gun were the barrel does not move.
a properly designed suppressor will greatly reduce any gas blowback into your face. You are correct, barrels that do not move during the firing cycle are better hosts for suppressors UNLES you use a booster in conjunction with your suppressor on a handgun. Look at GSL Technology suppressors. GSL doesn't do marketing hype, just excellent engineering. The owner of GSL, Greg Latka, has forgotten more about suppressors than most in the suppressor market will ever know. He's been in the field for 40+ years.
anyone who wears glasses while firing a gun has lost his balls.
@@Glockhead1if I’m at the range I do. If I don’t, I shoot left handed and get all kinds of unburnt gunpowder in my eyes.
So glad you are finally out of COMMIEFORNIA!
Hats off to Mr. Lenny McGill. You are one of the people who helped me fall in love with Glocks. I’ve watched the Glockstore videos for as long as I can remember. I even try to mimic your voice. Thank you sir. A true Glock pioneer 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
The less my ears ring indoors after a self defensive event, the quicker I can get back to sleep 😴
Yes and sleep good knowing you saved someone else from getting messed with
AMEN !
Clean up can wait until morning.
Decibels (tenths of a bel) use a logarithmic scale. One bel is a 10x difference in loudness, so 20 decibels is a 100x difference. Going from 118db to 98db is not a 20% reduction, it's a 99% reduction in sound level. Unfortunately, your ears perceive loudness on a logarithmic scale too (with a different base), so a 99% reduction probably sounds like a 75% reduction in loudness.
Glad I live in a state that allows the purchase of suppressors. I have two so far. One for my 556 AR and one for my G17 Gen 5. Great video, Lenny!
i live in california, not only can you not own a silencer you cant even have a threaded barrel on your gun. If you want a compensator it has to be permanently welded to your gun. These laws make no sense. And they believe you cant commit mass shootings if you limit magazine sizes to 10 rounds lol.
@@johnstockton8138 those laws save lives though ;)
@@johnstockton8138 I moved out of that state in 1989 and swore I'd never move back...beautiful state occupied by a population in which 80% are imbeciles and liberals (I know, that's repetitive ). I grew up there...
@@GTFBITK
Rotfl 🤣 I hope you’re joking
Never take your paperwork or give your suppressor to anyone trying to "confiscate" it.
word, make a copy of it and carry that. If they confiscate your actual paperwork, you will have to redo all the BS hoops that are necessary to get the stamp the first time.
@@mattnsac Is there a requirement to carry your paperwork? I've yet to see one.
@@infteamleader no there is not
@@mattnsac Nah, I wore my Form 4s out by folding them, carrying them, getting them sweaty, etc. BATFE sends you duplicates, if you ask em. As to the question- required to carry or display on demand...... according to my Class3 dealer you are NOT. He says that, as a tax document, you can not be compelled to show it without them having a warrant. I carry mine just because not all my "stamps" are for cans. One is for a Full Auto worth stupid moneye and I'd be very confrontational about someone trying to remove it from my possession.
@@Ten_Mil_Will “confrontational”😆💪🏼🇺🇸
The sound reduction in decibels is not the same as an equal percentage. 20 decibels is not 20 percent. It's more like an exponential curve.
Bruh the thought in Lenny’s brain ( and eyes ) when talking about “lefty tighty, righty loosey” killed me lmao. He is literally the man period. Money man has never heard of reverse threads..but his theory of why glock threaded barrels are reverse threaded had me rolling. What a legend bro. He could sell water to a shark.
water to a shark, Agreed.
All of my pillows have a tax stamp.
all my pillows and oil filters are undocumented refugees
From the My Pillow guy ?
Should have used subsonic ammunition. That would have been interesting to hear the difference between subsonic and regular ammo.
So glad you're down here in TN. a "FREE STATE" as I am!!! Can really enjoy all the fun of different firearms accessories.
I am also happy to live in a "FREE STATE Arizona
@@johncarter6238 I wish we had constitutional carry here
@@ThePatriotParadox
But you have Constipation-al carry in all States, you have a right to be Constipated. 🙄
Very glad to see you get out of California.... CANT WAIT to go see the Nashville store...
Was awesome meeting you at the store in Nashville a few days ago. Top notch facility for sure !
As I said any oil filter more or less same size will work the same. It's not the whisper Hollywood portrays
Lenny with all the overkill on safety you Internet shills pretend here you are screwing a suppressor on with gun loaded. A Glock with no manual safety at that?
A Conjugal visit! My Gawd Lenny, that was frickin’ brilliant. Almost fell out of my chair laughing.
The thought of an RSO trying to confiscate my silencer really makes laugh.
Can’t wait to come see the new and only Glock store I’ll go to !!
I can see there is some difficulty aligning the threads initially whenever you attach it. Depending upon the thickness and the angle of the initial slope of the lead in to the thread, in both or either of the interfacing devices, you can experience a drastic change in the feel of the threads engaging. Familiarity with your specific equipment does play a part too. Having said that, altering the machining profile of the lead-in to the thread in specific ways can allow you to effectively counter rotate the thread interface to align the thread lead-ins on both devices without excessive wear and tear to either device.
To put that into more familiar terms or experience.Take a standard bottled beverage with a resalable cap. Remove it then place the cap at the end of the bottle while turning it the wrong direction. When the threads are properly aligned it will jump slightly then fall, allowing you to tighten them without misalignment. If the thread profile on the barrel and/or suppressor is designed well with a minimal, but tactile jump on an initial counter-rotation alignment step, you should be able to thread a suppressor reliably every time without excessive wear on either device.
Isn’t the first round through a suppressor usually louder for some reason? Because of the lack of gases in it or something?
Thats called first round “pop”. Successive rounds fired will be quieter.
@@doubletap800 I wish he would have fired a few more rounds after the first one. Just to see the difference.
@@lucasblanchard47 Me too. When i shoot mine you can really hear the difference.
30 years!!?! Time to stop robbing liquor stores suppressed! Thanks for the tip Uncle Lenny!!!
Lenny has a way of selling products he has made me spend almost as much money as Hickok45 has hah but thanks to Lenny my Glocks are as functional as a Swiss Army knife and as reliable as a Rolex watch so thank you Lenny
amen to that.
So I am just beginning to research suppressors. I have a pistol with a threaded 1/28 thread and a pistol carbine in the same 9mm caliber with the same 1/28 thread. Am I correct in thinking I could buy one suppressor and it would work theoretically on both?
It would but you would need a booster and piston for the handgun.
Do you have to get separate stamps for each suppressor? Great video, keep up the great work!
Each NFA item needs it’s own stamp. So yes each suppressor needs a stamp. Well worth it.
Yes you will...
One of the best videos I’ve seen explaining the basics of suppressors/silencers.
This gentleman can stretch any 02 minutes video to 10 minutes.
I work ten mins away I hope you are there this Saturday, is the shop open for everything? I might have missed a update but I try not to mr McGill. Soooo very glad you came to our city
I have one suppressor that screws directly onto the barrel righty tighty (5.56) and I used a auto o-ring and it keeps it from coming loose. Literally never had to tighten it.
My other one ratchets onto a compensator so it never comes loose either.
Great video Lenny, thanks. Conjugal visits LOL!!!
The suppresor is nott reducing the sound by only 20% since decibel is a logarithmic scale the sound drop is much, much more.
Much much much less
MP5s are so much fun! Sometimes I wish I lived in Tennessee.
13.5-1 is metric threads. 13.5mm diameter, 1mm per thread.
In some other countries it's easier to buy a suppressor than a gun. Shouldn't be that difficult in the US.
Glocks have an upward tilting barrel. Do suppressors cause premature wear and tear at the fulcrum point vs fixed barrels?
Yes. To function properly you need a device that sits between barrel and suppressor.
Lets start referring to them as Mufflers from now on it would redefine the image & associations the non shooting public have about these devices. Also best parts of video: START‐>25:35 when Lenny says "Gong" play‐‐>25:49 & for finale play ‐>25:43
I love the silence...
Question, I own a Glock 19 Gen 5 but it did not come with any barrel at the tip. Would I need to buy that small barrel tip before purchasing a suppressor for it? Or do suppressors come with it?
You will need a new barrel that is properly threaded to match the supressor you want.
I'm In NC but I'm Coming to Nashville to check out this facility. Be there Lenny!
FYI. The decibel is a logarithmic scale, so a 20 dB difference is a 10x difference in amplitude.
*DB's are measured using a logarithmic scale*
That means a reading of 100db is *1,000,000,000 louder* than a reading of 10db.
If a suppressor can take you down to the 90db range, that's good because that's about the same as city traffic.
Thank you for the history lesson and demo. However, I would like to see you shoot 5 consecutive rounds out a suppress Glock with subsonic ammo.
Talking about a conjugal visit with a suppressor made me laugh!
Great vid! I’d like to see some accurate db levels with a good meter. Non-suppressed should be registering closer to 170db
attack speed is too fast for the phone mic to actually register the max loudness.
My GEN5 G45 MOS FS with OEM Glock threaded barrel has 1/2 - 28 RH threads.
Does a CWP have any effect or shorten background check since a background check was made for the permit?
No advantages
35 minute of video to say "yes", good job!
have a glock 23 gen 4 40 cal i would like a suppressor but dont want a bunch of issues just to have a suppressor on my tool what is my options thx stefan from enumclaw washington
Db is logarithmic so 10 dbs reduction is much more than 20 percent
I think it reduces it by 90% 👌👌
Cheap “fluid entrapment device” suppressors come through Cali ports from China I heard from a friend with some 165 grain Hush sub sonic ammo it sounds just a hair quieter than an air nail gun roof installers use. Just my opinion.
Haven't checked in on this channel is a couple years....you moved out of CA! Congrats! Let's get a location down in Florida now!!!
So then does the left hand thread pitch of the glock barrel prevent the suppressor from loosening?
Yes.
That is an omega 9k correct? If so what is that piston?
147 9mm is subsonic. The 115 is supersonic. Eliminating the sonic crack is a big deal. If Lenny used 147 indoors there would be an even more dramatic reduction.
FYI the cell phone app that reads sound is much less accurate then a sound level meter.
What is 5he price of a factory glockenspiel 17 and 19 suppressor threaded barrel?
Man oh man that mp5sd. Can't wait till mine shows up.
Lenny is having fun again. Welcome Lenny
Hiram Percy Maxim was also instrumental in creating the ARRL (Amateur Radio Relay League.) An organization for Ham Radio.
I saw a guy SCREW ON a particular type of oil filter onto his threaded barrel & the shit actually screwed on no issue & deadened a lot of the sound when fired lol
I know Lenny has the money but that phone holster is a bold choice. I’d be worried I’d break that thing in half everyday!
Very interesting! I think it's one of the few gun related laws that are more lenient in France (and Europe for that matter). In France as long as you prove you own the gun legally, you can freely buy suppressors.
Amazing video where can I order one of these for my Glock 26??
I would have liked to hear the comparison with subsonic ammo
Very nice presentation and info. I would add a shooting test with both 115 supersonic vs 147 or 158gr sub sonic.
Hell Yes! Back Yard plinking…. !
There are suppressors that are nearly silent, at least to TV silent. They have an endcap swipe that blocks the escaping gasses. When used with subsonic ammunition, the first couple of rounds will be relatively silent (like TV suppressors). Unfortunately, ATF has designed the swipes as themselves as suppressors. You can buy the Ruger 10/22 with the suppressed barrel, shooting suppressed ammunition, is nearly (TV) suppressed out of box.
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keep that to yourself fool.
Lenny Magill any (Promo Code)I can use for my purchase of the DD Premium Replacement Barrel for my glock 19?
Suppressors for military is more for flash suppression. Js. Been there. Got the key chain and coffee mug
Sir can you help me a have a glock 19 but doesn't have any threads to screw a suppressor on it how could a rectify that...thanks and do you sell suppressors
Buy a threaded barrel. If legal in your state.
Can you do a video using subsonic ammo with the Glock 19 with suppressor?
With regard to UK - US expressions, here in the UK 'silencers' or moderators are commonly called 'cans' or suppressors. And, in general, are a fraction of the price you pay in the US, and a lot easier to get.
Hey Lenny how about keeping the file loaded on your phone like car insurance ?
That was fun, at the end! My wife even enjoyed it, she shot a P90 so appreciated keeping on target.
Hello, Lenny, You are simply wonderful. Thank you.
Dude, I only wanted to know WHAT I NEED TO DO FOR MY SUPPRESSOR TO WORK ON A GLOCK!! I don’t need a history lesson on silencers, NFA, and how hearing works, and 30 minutes of other crap WE ALREADY KNEW!!! Just tell us how to make my Glock functional as more than a bolt action while using my suppressor!!
Start with getting a booster for your can and a softer recoil spring for your slide.
@@neilarellano8470 Thanks!! I bought the Rugged Obsidian 45, so the booster needed is included, but I’ll be buying another booster for my 9mm guns, and a fixed barrel adapter for my fixed barrels. I’ll be running it on a FN FNX Tactical 45, Glock 30, Glock 34, S&W Shield Plus, and fixed barreled 22’s, 9’s, 38/357. So, you think I should get new recoil springs for the Glocks? I’ve watched TONS of videos and nobody has ever said anything about changing out the recoil springs, but it seems to me like I would need a heavier spring because of the increased pressure. They sell a package with a bunch of different spring weights, and a metal guid rod, so it won’t be too hard to find the right spring weight.
@@danfromthesouth5352 so, my experience with my cans (Kinetic Suppressor ACE and Wizard) and my booster (made by Liberty Suppressors) is that the booster absorbs so much of the cycling energy the stock springs tend to be too stiff for the gun to cycle properly (the casings don't eject). I then went ahead and purchased Glock Recoil kits from NDZ (I got the 11lbs kit for my 17 and the 15lbs kit for my 19x) and they seem to be cycling subs and supers perfectly now.
Check their stuff out; the Glock Recoil Kits come assembled and ready to replace your stock recoil spring assembly (it's totally worth it).
If running with a booster and reduced power springs doesn't allow you to cycle properly, check your internals for binding/rubbing.
@@danfromthesouth5352 by the way, the term "kit" I mentioned is actually called "guide rod assembly".
They're only about 25-30 smackers so they're not too pricey.
Plus, you can easily swap out between your OEM and your NDZ recoil assemblies on the fly easily if you need to troubleshoot or moving between suppressed/non suppressed.
@@neilarellano8470 Thanks again!!! I can be hard to find all the info I need so I’m thinking about making my own TH-cam channel to answer obscure problems like these. Thanks for the advice!
Great Video Lenny. Living in Mass. can be a drag....
I like this guy personality 👍🏽
Great video…I fell in love with that MP5!!!
Wish you would have shown the decibel readings when you shot outdoors
My first name is Maxim. My grandfather was a machine gunner during World War 2, in the Ukrainian Insurgent Army. I was named after his Maxim machine gun.
Seems like the suppressor makes the 9mm sound like a .22 long rifle. Hope to see you when I head north to TN someday soon.
Try it here in East TN in the hollows. Sounds like a cannon going off.
The movies lied big time, still very loud especially indoors, but I do hear the slight difference. Without CRACK and with Snap sound. Really thought it sounded softer like a James Bond movie.
What is the other firearm in the video on the table?
Hiya 🖐🏾 Lenny question for you, are you familiar with the Glock 25 (380 ACP). Can you put a Glock 19 slide on that frame and would it function
But where you gonna get the frame? That is the serialized bit you can't get.
I owned a silencer in Virginia. Next year I will move back to California… can I bring it or sale it ?
LoL...you can't take ANYTHING into Commiefornia!
I love that “A conjugal visit for your suppressor” The holes a little tight though
Does anyone find they need different springs or anything when running a can on a Glock or does the factory return spring work?
I heard you need a softer spring, stock one favors blockages, probably has to do with the gas choking but don't take my word for it
I've replaced my 17's recoil spring with an 11lbs spring and my 19x's recoil spring with a 15lb spring; the stock spring was being iffy with my subsonic loads.
do you sell the mp5 with a suppressor ?
One of his best videos
Didn't they get a contact with microtech for supresors
Even with the suppresor, you are in the range where prolonged exposure would cause hearing damage.
Not with subsonic ammo.
@@NoneYaBidness762
Carl is correct, even with subsonic ammo, it will harm hearing, if hearing protection is not used.
@@carminemurphy4836 If you say so.
Depends on the gun and ammo. 300 blk with subs probably wouldn't. 45 ACP with most cans is around 130 decibels. Kinda a moot argument because doing anything fairly loud indoors can cause hearing damage. Most people shooting a lot with suppressors would be shooting outdoors you aren't going to a public range without ear pro anyway. Shooting 9mm subs. 45 ACP is already sub. and 300 blk subs outdoors is perfectly hearing safe with many suppressors.
Actually no, because it is an impulse noise and not a constantly on noise.
So what if my suppressor doesn’t have a serial number can I still use it?