Bens comment about the thermometer needing his data and location settings is valid. It would make me pass on it instantly. I’d like to keep that stuff private if I can (i.e. there’s an alternative).
They are probably forced to ask for location by the OS permission system. Giving "only" Bluetooth to an app means the app can in theory scan for devices and reverse engineer you location. Thus i.e. Android requires all apps that use Bluetoth to ask for location access.
@@v.crowley I don't know if that is supposed to be a joke for non-tech people but it's like wondering how you can receive a radio station without them knowing your address...
Stuff like the quench sea always concerns me, because while it may function properly now, i assume the filters dont last too long. So the questions are how much water can you filter through one set, how do you dispose of it, how they are distributed and how much do they cost.
I'd also question the effectiveness of a hand crank. I suspect you would be consuming more water cranking the machine then getting back to drink. A small solar powered crank might be necessary for it to be worth it.
@@NighmareCorporation From that information it sounds like a family of four would need a new filter every 3 months, if using it for ~2L per day per person (a low estimate). I don't see how it's practical to distribute 4 billion cartridges a year if they do get 1 billion of these units out to people who could use it.
@@woodstream6137 That's likely all it is, something to keep out big particulate matter. It's not cleaning the water at all, it's just preventing big chunky crap from getting into the device. I have to imagine it'd be pretty cheap to replace if you had to, but I imagine all it'd need is a good rinse out every once in a while to last a long time.
I actually work in the water purification field here in the state of Florida when it comes to the reverse osmosis filters a lot of times you need to pre-rinse them to make sure you get any dust residue out of the center the yellow nest that came out first was what’s known as a pre-rinse and your water got cleaner and cleaner as the filter got rinsed of all the particulates covering it when we receive those filters they are covered in plastic, so as not to let any fingerprints or bacteria or solids reach the filter before it’s put into the housing
@@HaralHeisto ya i remember getting the brita filter like jugs and you suppose to rinse the filter for a bit first. Like i remember rinsing the first filter and you get clear like blue water coming out through it lol. The later replacement filter didn't turn blue but i rinse them throughly before using XD
For the steam cleaner, I see that as a rentable device. If it costs £140, then rent it out at a tenner a day, people rent it for a day, blitz through the kitchen for the afternoon, return the next day. The customer gets to clean their kitchen for only a tenner rather than having to get an expensive device and the company gets a profit with just 2 weeks worth of rentals. People aren't likely to buy a £140 machine they don't use that often, but a tenner a go they'll likely do it every couple of months or so
Or a Thing/Tool/Kitchen Library! Those are starting to get more popular in various cities; as you say there's plenty of things you don't need to own ALL the time -- so if you can borrow a blender or a drill or a steamer for a few days and then return it for someone else to use the next week, it's more cost-effective AND more environmentally friendly!
Great episode as always. For the steam cleaner, as others have observed, it makes great sense for a small group of households to pitch in together and to share. For the desalinator, one possible explanation for the earlier color of the output could be the filter needing conditioning. Anyone who's used a home water filter with a replaceable filter cartridge has experienced, when you first put in a new cartridge, you need to run water through it for a time. This removes any loose particles of the filter's stationary phase (carbon and other compounds). There may also be a need for the filter to become initially "saturated" in order for it work at full capacity.
For some reason the gadget reminds me of the Russian sailor who used live steam from his shop's engine to clean some pots and pans. Shame the ship was nuclear powered.
That portable dishwasher thing would be great for sterilizing home brewing, fementing, or canning equipment. Especially the larger pieces that are hard to get into a dishwasher.
Pretty much. It looks like the type of equipment you'd find in a small hobby chemist or school chem lab. Not quite professional enough to be used in a "real" pro environment, but certainly useful for smaller things. And just the perfect way to clean glass that's hard to get into with your hands or even a spongy stick. That being said, if you DON'T have a lot of small glassen ware with tiny openings at home, then this is just a waste.
@@Sletchman To be fair, they could've mentioned in the instructions that it would tell you when to take it out & let the carryover finish it up while it rests. Especially if it's geared towards less experienced cooks who might not know about resting meats.
@@pinbi7 I think he did say he owns a thermometer? He specifically said that temp & feel are the only ways to know for certain when something's done cooking.
@@pinbi7 In one of their Christmas gifts for foodies videos, Ben mentions that he and kush both have the same thermometer and have had them for over a decade
@@SeraphimCramer It said to take it out and let it rest at the temp for it sitting out on a counter, he put foil over it after taking it out early. So... Different rest method, I don't know which is better.
Right. that's one of the purposes of crowdfunding to donate to those people either with an idea but can't be funded by banks or venture capitalists or funding more impoverished people trying to build a livelihood. Nowadays, crowdfunding is all about trying to get something out of it and calling it a scam if it fails. People should stop funding already well-off people who just don't want to put in the money in their own project
That's not at all what this product was. Its just a normal backing project. They just say their goal is to supply a billion of them by 2027 which is frankly a pretty insane goal considering its a market that's been around for like 50 years already.
Depends on how long the filter lasts and how expensive they are to make. If you only get like 10 litres of one filter and they cost 20 quid each I guess they would be a hard sell in the regions that do need them.
@@michi6486 Yea. That's what I as thinking as well. For me if it's good or not will rest entirely on how long that filter lasts. Because often with these crowdfunded gadgets it ain't long. It's long enough to get some fun out of it and then it just does not work anymore. But since most don't use it for 100-1000 Liters they would never know.
The website claims about 1000 liters, 60 bucks for 2 filters. A family of 4 would need to pay 120 us dollars a year for water filters, which isn't a negligible amount, about 1/3 of 1 months minimum salary in many places and in other places is 1/3 of the total annual income of some Really poor families.
Other good way is make a sort of distilery. You can Cook the water till it starts to evaporate and when the steam get in the coulder part it starts to change back in its fluid form. (You will have some water loss bud its bether than having nothing.)
The life saving answer is large scale desalination and water sharing agreements. Individuals should never have to bear the burden of acquiring basic human needs in a modern society, whilst companies get obscenely rich achieving that.
I have had a similar sized wand steam cleaner for 25 years and it is used alot from kitchen to bathrooms, windows to carpet spot cleaning, car rims to greasy engines and furniture refinishing. My son even uses it in his restaurant. You really pay for the strength of the blast and durability. What I appreciate most is that there is no chemicals needed and just leaves a fresh clean smell. Don't know how long this machine is going to keep going but when it finally does "run out of steam" it will be replaced immediately and will put out the dollars to get one that is well made.
The water treatment device is interesting, but it's going to share a similar problem that many other water treatment systems run into. I work with table-top steam sterilizers which require distilled water, so water filtration systems are usually involved. The problem they have is needing to replace the filters at different intervals, depending on the location of the customer (high altitude with hard water 300ppm+ or some place like the American mid-west where the average is much lower) you can be changing filters once a month or once every 4-6 months. I can only imagine that treating literal sea water and untreated water in developing countries is going to burn through that RO system much faster than your typical tap water would. I hope that the cost of the filters has been considered when trying to donate something like this to people that cannot afford it.
I fail to see how that's a concern. It's not meant to be a permanent solution, but an emergency device. Think natural disasters like earthquakes and hurricanes, send these while the infrastructure is being repaired.
The second gadget is typically something we should have in a “library”, where everyone in the neighbourhood could borrow tools we only use every quarter or semester. One of those could be used by so many people!
There is an object library in my town! It's based exactly on the principle that it's a waste to build a thousand tools that are only needed a few times a year, or once in several years like a bathroom sink wrench. They also have kitchen appliances, party items such as extra glasses and chairs and decorations, and gardening tools. And they have two vapor cleaners. They also organise repair workshops every week, as well as sewing and woodworking workshops. The membership to the association is 5 € a year and while a lot of the objects can be borrowed for free, some of the tools may cost 5 € or even 10 € a week.
gives a normal and chef view for sure, though I am starting to wonder just how "normal" the lads are with how far they've come, they know a crazy amount of stuff I would never have even considered as a home cook.
Ben, surprised the cartridge in the quench sea was not addressed for its longevity. Sustainability of these types of products is always very important for the Sorted crew.
Even the economic benefits are questionable as the unit itself costs £111 and the filters are £51 for 2 and say the RO membranes will last between "6 to 12 months" and produced "up to 1,000 litres of fresh water". There's also the pre-filters which go for £34 for 2 but it doesn't say how long they last (I assume the same 1,000L). As with most water SDG related stuff there is a lot of buzzword bullshit about "state-of-the-art" and "sophisticated hand-operated level and hydraulic system" but when you drill down into it it's not a new technology the "innovative" part is a hand pump but good luck pumping that for an extended period of time. So that's £42.50 of consumables per 1000L of water so what 42.5p a litre... that's not exactly that cheap. In an emergency situation it's fine but in an emergency situation there would also likely be cheaper and more effective technologies available as this thing requires sea water.
@@spikeychris That's not even innovative. Hand pumped versions of these are really common as a backup on ships and life boats and have been for many decades. Industrial scale reverse osmosis plants have been running since the early 70s. So i'm sure personal units probably weren't far behind.
They also failed to mention that the point of the steam cleaner was that it replaced the need for disinfectants and chemical cleaners - which is a HUGE deal! While it was marketed as being able to wash dishes it was not a dishwasher but a food-safe chemical free disinfector that can be used on anything that is dishwasher safe or steam cleanable. The deep frying basket was the only good test as it showed it was able to handle really difficult cleaning using only hot water - and somehow in a manner where both of them were not burnt or apparently hurt even when misusing the device to wash a glass bowl very near his face.
That dayoo steam cleaner really feels like something youd never own but instead rent from a kitchen supply or high end grocery store. Something to use over the weekend after a party n such or when you know families coming to visit and you must get the kitchen spotless.
As a rental product that does seem very useful If our society was more communal and no bad actors like, sold it, id say itd be a good thing for like an apartment building to communally own? You only use it when you need it and then it goes into closet for things you only need to borrow sometimes that everyone shares Like my building has a shared bbq we all pitch in for the gas cylinders for, i could see this pressure cleaner being something like that, but only if you could trust your neighbours (Its a lot harder to steal a big ass bbq)
I used to work dish in a restaurant, and product #2 is something I'd give my left arm for. For cleaning party days, or before service but after prep when a lot of things have been used. I clean the fry baskets and the fryers. Its sale price of $200 right now might seem like a lot, but if it works that well, it could easily be worth every penny.
As someone with chemical allergies the idea of being able to have a device strong enough to clean a fryer basket with nothing but water is huge! Especially with it apparently being safe enough to not burn your face when doing something idiotic like using it to clean a glass bowel while having your face directly over it. A pity your review didn't go into more detail on it's build quality and uses beyond washing dishes because having a handheld food safe disinfector using just water is a product people should be buying - if you included the context of the fact that it replaces the need for disinfectants, oven cleaners, dishwashing liquid, cleaning clothes and time wasted scrubbing while yes...also being able to clean dishes without a dishwasher it would pay for itself - assuming the build quality is good enough.
The steam cleaner puzzles me, except for being wall mountable, it does not appear to be doing anything different from models currently on the market. You can get a typical steam cleaner on Amazon right now for $50 or less. For that price one could buy 3 cleaners (dedicate 1 for kitchen, 1 for bathroom, and 1 for general house cleaning) and still spend less than the Kickstarter model
Yeah I'm not very convinced with the desalinator. It seems like one of those things that people design and forget how water collection in water scarce regions actually works. It's not going to be five people pumping for water for days on end until they get drinkable water comes out, but women who will need to do all of this while thinking of safety, time, finding water sources, and much more. The idea might be right but it can definitely do with better design. And I'd love to see how long those filters last in the first place
I mean for drinking water, id absolutely put in the effort to pump it You can absolutely die from just getting the runs from even slightly bad water Its less effort than making beer! Wich is historically is what you made to have something safe to drink Pump for a while or go through the effort of brewing beer, i know what id do
Its a like, personal use thing, or small family thing Not stick one end in a well or the ocean for the whole village thing, thats what the big engine powered desalinators are for For the scale its for, especially for temporary disaster relief, its absolutely useful
Me too, although TBH given the current issues with coastal water around the UK, running the output through the human gut is probably the acid test. I'd *really* like to know the lifetime (and replacement cost) of the semi-permeable membrane filter assembly.
@@SuperAd1980 do these alternatives you mentioned also don’t require electricity? I’m genuinely asking because I have no idea. Because at sea or very remote places electricity is not a given.
@@SuperAd1980 they said they will donate units to resource poor areas, meaning it is implied to be used long term. But i see the scam. They donate the units, but the filters will need to be replaced. Filters like these cannot be washed repeatedly without damaging the integrity and guarantee of the filter. Molecules that have ADsorbed into the activated carbon have already been bound and cannot be washed.
So, a question I have about that last item. It kinda relies on the filter, but filters don't last. How long does it last, and is it recyclable. If a family by the sea or ocean relies on it, then how much are they burdened by the company who owns the patent?
This system isn't suitable for daily family use. There are much easier, and cheaper filtration systems available for that, including solar stills and standard stills.This would be more for emergency use, or use on a boat. The ideal use case would probably be somewhere like the US in a hurricane zone, where there's a chance of infrastructure being knocked out at short notice and staying out long enough to run out of bottled water.
That last one was super cool. I can see it making a huge difference in the world and as a personal use would be a great safety thing to have on your lifeboat if you go out on the ocean.
That QuenchSea is... really basic handpump adapter over a reverse osmosis filter, which is used for ages across the world to putify water. Nothing groundbreaking in it, but it does work perfectly fine and really removes microbes (salt is MUCH smaller than them).
My only concern with the Quench is how long that filter is going to last. How many gallons/liters of water can you expect to convert with the pump before you need to replace the filter and how much a replacement filter costs? Selling the unit at a low cost with the hopes of making long term profitable revenue with sales of the proprietary filter is a fairly common business model.
I was not quite sold on the steam cleaner, and then Barry said cleaning the oven...the man is right!! Still too expensive for me, but I would LOVE to try that.
The real question on the water purifier is, how quickly does it churn through those filter desalinating sea water, and how much do they cost to replace?
Having lived in Haiti and knowing how hard clean water was to get...I want to back this.maybe it shpuld have clamps to keep hoses in place but other than that...brillant!
Watched this because of the thumbnail featuring the quenchsea. I live by the ocean and have one for emergency. I think it’s amazing they’ve made this so affordable and available and I hope it helps to encourage interest in the expansion and availability of clean water technologies.
I have a steam cleaner that I paid less than $50.00 to purchase. It may not have adjustable pressure settings but, it does a good job of steam cleaning.
The cost difference is that it's approved for use on food surfaces and goes to a higher temperature. It has a patient as the first kitchen grade steam cleaner for home use. It's won a few good design awards and has certifications for disinfecting and chemical free cleaning. It's a pity Sorted didn't do a proper review as if the build quality is good it would pay for itself over a cheaper one.
The Meater Thermometer has been doing the remote thermometer thing for years and years. Much more refined and can operate with 4 thermometers at a time and the charger is built in extender. Guga Steak channel has been using it forever too.
The steam cleaner is pe fect for Sorted - they could keep it in the studio and each take it home in turn. So, good for a group of friends to pass around and share the cost.
The same is true of things like pressure washers and household steam cleaners for furniture and things. Anything you use seldom enough that working out a shared custody agreement with other owners is worth the hassle
I was skeptical with the water purifier, but it seems to be a actually amazing piece of kit. I hope they reach their goal, because as Ben said, this can easily be actually live saving.
@@peterwilks4391 Reverse osmosis membranes cost about 20-40 pounds depending on the size and output. The quality does go down eventually but for this specific scenario it should last a while.
It's just another filter. The question is how much water can be filtered before needing replacement. Not a lot because that filter is small. Useful and affordable as a tool for people who travel for fun, not in any common critical situations. More for rich people and definitely not for the poor individuals who have limited access to clean water.
The concept of the salt water filtration system is brilliant, but I do see a few potential issues. 1) The system has a lot of room for user error, seeing how much semi-filtered water you guys were pumping out. 2) What is the lifespan of that filter, how easy/cheap is it to replace and dispose of the filter, and is there an indicator for when the filter needs to be replaced? 3) I want to see a thorough analysis of that water for pathogens, heavy metals, and other contaminants before drinking it.
If you have 140GBP for the cleaner then just buy a normal Karcher steam cleaner - it will be similarly priced or even cheaper, has more pressure and bigger water tank. Power cable is miles long and the hose is long enough to clean everything you need. Tons of accessories included. It also takes no more space than Dayoo. It has a handle so you can hold it up if you need to. That Dayoo thing is just using kickstarter to sell existing stuff to people that don't know it already exist as a new invention.
The hand pumped sea water osmosis pump is not new as a concept. There has been a version available for some time, and suitable for including in a liferaft. (Katadyn Survivor 06). The cost is good, but one of the most important pieces of info missing was how much could it produce. I am very dubious about its claim to remove bacterial matter, as no reverse osmosis systems have this ability. You would need to pass it under an intense ultra violet source,
@@Oleandra-13 The fact that it is a Sea Water system means that it is very unlikely that you would have the means to boil water in a survival situation.
the only thing about the last one. if those filters are not replaced often enough there will grow bacteria it can't filter out and people could die from that. it's a really cool concept but i'm a bit concerned about that bit. (i just recently attended a seminar about water filtration)
The steamer wouldn't be good for normal dishes, as they discovered, because of the high temperatures involved. I can easily see it as a deep cleaner for the kitchen (oven, deep fryer baskets, etc.), though. Also, as another person said in the comments, I'd be interested to see how long the filter lasts and how much replacements cost. It could be a game changer for those in water- scarce regions, but only if the replacement filters are inexpensive. Overall, enjoyed this video a lot!
I have a regular steam cleaner (it's designed for home use, not kitchen specific) and it was $150USD. I think it is a lot more versatile than the one they reviewed; it's on wheels and isn't restricted to wherever it's been wall mounted. They are pricey, but I love being able to clean and sanitize without using harsh chemicals. And it makes cleaning things, such as my bathtub, much easier.
@@alleycaaat Only question is whether it reaches as high a pressure, but that aside it's also what I was thinking: a general purpose steam cleaner with the relevant attachment seems like it would be a better bang for your buck, it would be in a similar price range and applicable to significantly more situations.
@@Bob-nc5hz I can't remember the output specs on mine, but I don't know that it's the pressure so much as the temperature of the steam that matters? Maybe for things like a deep fryer basket you do want more pressure, but in general the temperature is what I focus on. I have an attachment that you can add little nylon or brass bristle brushes to, I imagine that's what would keep the temperature and pressure the highest. Now I kind of want to see a side-by-side comparison of the two on a deep dryer basket. :) It seemed like a rather Ugh I Am Adult purchase, but 10/10 I recommend a steam cleaner!
Ben, I'm totally with you. If the app says it shares your data with 3rd parties I never download it nor if it asks for anything outside what you'd class as usual usage info. Plus I now have an app blocker. Quick check says in last 7 days it's stopped 115,000 tracking attempts over 21 apps. Outrageous. Leave us alone corporate bastards!
@@SortedFood first a stool that will raise easily while you are sitting on it with locking wheels. Longer I stand in one place the greater the pain. This would help a wide range of handicap people. A skillet that cooks like cast iron but doesn't weigh as much. A powered can opener that isn't fidgety and is easy to use. I was really impressed by the mini thermometer. I have a Bluetooth where probe goes into meat but transmitter is wired to it and sit outside . But then it has a lot bigger range than the mini.
ref meat stick mini, a wired one ( meat thermometer) isn't about the same. I use one i bought from Tesco for under £15. I set the temp and it beeps when it reaches it. What more do you need.
The reverse osmosis filter - The filter probably needs replacing every six months, and it's too expensive to rollout to the vast majority of the poor when a filter bag, gravity and a Solar water disinfection PET bottle can do the same job at a fraction of the price.
For the desalinator, how much pumping does it need to produce a given quantity of potable water? If you gave one to a family of four, how much time would they need to spend pumping, per day?
The sea water filtering device looked with an SCP Foundation video. But even if it's not for anomalies, if you boil the water, catch the vapor on a tin "roof" and then have it drip down as liquid, you'd have made a lot safer system. This device will be useful if you have no access to fire, so Fire Hunter people may be on to it.
@@Ishlacorrin Yeah, a friend of mine creates low cost tech solutions, and one of the designs he teaches at refugee camps does exactly this. It's pretty much a filtration system using increasingly fine filtration mediums, and a solar one at the end to kill bacteria. There's a bit more to it, but that's basically what it is, and it's built almost entirely from recycled garbage that's commonly found around refugee camps. There's also no pumping involved either, it's entirely a gravity filtration system, and doesn't need any ongoing expenses (you need to replace the filtration medium every so often of course, but the mediums were partly chosen based on availability). The only advantage the device has is being compact and one piece, though that would be a huge advantage on boats.
The salt-water filtration system was amazing and is lifechanging for so many. I do like when you do these crowdfunded shows as it shows us what is trying to burst on the scene. Also, I know the steam cleaner/dishwasher is for the kitchen, but I was thinking how I really could use that in my bathroom. Great pick of products!
We need the lads revisiting all of the gadgets that they thought they wouldn't use again but now love and use all of the time. I totally see the cleaning machine going around all the Sorted staff houses deep cleaning ...."who has the portable dishwasher?! I need to clean my bathroom this weekend, the in-laws are coming".
#1 reason you should never buy the meat stick mini or app enabled devices like that You never know when the company will either abandon support or go out of business. Meaning either - the app will stop being updated for new phones/devices/operating systems - the servers that run the app will be shut down - the company moves on and stops support Get a more traditional digital thermometer that doesn't require your phone or their servers
The Desalinisator , if kept to a decent price on release, could be a game changer on a globalscale. Imagine after a disaster like a Tsunami part of the aid package is loads of these? I have also looked in to backing this
Thing is, it's nothing new, and they're already widely used (Katadyn Survivor 35 and 06 for example). So I can't see them being a "game changer on a globalscale" even if they were cheaper than the competition.
Having used outdoors water filters & desalination pumps before I'd be interested to hear how much each filter can purify before replacement is required & the filter replacement cost. Usually replacement filters cost almost the same as the whole unit from past experience. I can see it being handy for short term humanitarian aid situations though. Do you really want an App on your phone called "Meat-stick" though one wonders!? 😆 For the steam cleaner, might be worth a few friends/households clubing together & buying one, then sharing it around between them for say bi-monthly deep cleans?
this unit is too small to help in humanitarian needs tbh. I doubt you can realistically use it for more than one family. there already are large gas/diesel powered units that use the same principle and can help small communities. this would mostly be useful for camping or on a private boat, maybe as a backup in a beach vacation home.
@@Blackthorne369 That's what I was thinking of, thinly populated areas, no diesel or infrastructure to speak of. Like in some areas of the Philippines after a typhoon was knocked out power & water. Or many of the other coastal or island populations after a disaster. When the rescue services can't truck fuel or supplies in they'd be handy.
You know, the steamer would totally be worth it if like a family or some close friends got together and shared it. We've shared a big nice carpet cleaner the same way LOL
I like the idea of the QuenchSea Desalinisation Device, but i can only see it on like boats, emergencies or in Humanitarion organizations and not as part of a 3th world country. Yes they would get access to fresh water, but will they be able to change the filters accordingly, what would a filter cost, can they affort it, how long would it last and what happens to the old filters, are they recyclable?
If it collects your location, and it knows you're cooking, say, beef at that location, the app can send that information back to the company, who sells it to a data broker, who in turn sells it to a company who wants to advertise to beef consumers in your postcode. So by using the thermometer you helped serve yourself more spamvertising.
Hmm, I'm just instantly asking how long that filter will last? Seems more as part of a emergency kit for your boat, not so much to save people in Africa, as they probably won't be able to change the filter.
That quench gadget would rip through those tiny filter cartridges. The people it's intended for use would not be able to afford the filters and would then keep using it with concentrated contaminates in the filter.
You might have missed a use for the steam cleaner.I figure it would be great for bathrooms and anywhere else you need to sanitize without chemicals (babies toys clothes highchair etc),
There are plenty of high pressure steam products on the market that are cheaper and easier to use. I have something that is on wheels and I can use it for the kitchen, bathroom, my car and anywhere else where high pressure steam would work well and that for half the price.
I have one like that too, the x Vapor by Ariete and it's fantastic to clean all the difficult corners, high and low places you can't reach, with a lot of accessories for a lot of functions and price it was a little more than 100 euros.
Just answering Ben's question about location settings for thermometer app here: Before Android 12, it's a requirement in Android for apps using Bluetooth to obtain Location permission. I am assuming the thermometer uses Bluetooth to communicate with the app.
The Dupray steam cleaner is the one to go for, bought mine 5 years ago, does everything the one you tested does (apart from hang on a wall), reaches higher temp and pressure, plus cleans your floors and it also costs less and looks way cooler :)
I can explain the need for location settings I'm assuming when you connected via Bluetooth, you didn't actually have to pair the thermometer with the phone like you would a speaker. Whenever an app does that connection for you, it requires location settings. Phones roll that permission in with location settings because it's quite common for them to scan radio signals as an alternative to using GPS. They can then work out where you are by looking up the location of the nearby WiFi networks. However, scanning through what's neaeby is also required to find the thermometer hence they ask for permission.
Regarding that steam cleaner, I would highly recommend just buying a Kärcher steam cleaner. It can do the same and do the floors etc as well for less cost!
6:22 for lots of reasons. For example, a survey company may come to them and ask for the kind of food most cooked with the app in such and such location. Well they can sell that information.
Ben cleaning the glass cup with hot steam gave me great anxiety. I've seen glass break from thermal expansion/contraction, and personally found that glasses can be very fragile while being washed (ie they broke as I picked them up, no dropping or anything required). Is that not a concern in the UK? (I'm American for reference). Or is that just a problem with older glassware (as some of my stuff is)? I clean my glassware with a lot of trepidation...
Barry clarifying that him and Ben are no longer living together in a country cottage immediately made me think of the comment of the week tune. 😂
LOL! Miss that tune.
@@SortedFood so do I!
Barry and Ben are the best of friends! Such a classics amongst the sorted jokes we've had throughout the years
@@Anna_TravelsByRail honestly it's such a shame they discarded comment of the week. I loved it, some older Sorted inside jokes I really do miss it.
I’m still waiting for it to be released on iTunes
Barry immediately stopping Ben saying he wanted to mount him had me in stitches 😂😂😂
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Me too!
I've lost count already on how many times i've replayed that part 😂😂😂
Bens comment about the thermometer needing his data and location settings is valid. It would make me pass on it instantly. I’d like to keep that stuff private if I can (i.e. there’s an alternative).
We hear you Anna!
it is not the thermometer that needs that data, it is Bluetooth LE that the app is using that needs that data
They are probably forced to ask for location by the OS permission system. Giving "only" Bluetooth to an app means the app can in theory scan for devices and reverse engineer you location. Thus i.e. Android requires all apps that use Bluetoth to ask for location access.
How is the app going to know which thermometer to connect to if it doesnt know your location to find where it is XD
@@v.crowley I don't know if that is supposed to be a joke for non-tech people but it's like wondering how you can receive a radio station without them knowing your address...
Stuff like the quench sea always concerns me, because while it may function properly now, i assume the filters dont last too long. So the questions are how much water can you filter through one set, how do you dispose of it, how they are distributed and how much do they cost.
I'd also question the effectiveness of a hand crank. I suspect you would be consuming more water cranking the machine then getting back to drink. A small solar powered crank might be necessary for it to be worth it.
@@NighmareCorporation From that information it sounds like a family of four would need a new filter every 3 months, if using it for ~2L per day per person (a low estimate). I don't see how it's practical to distribute 4 billion cartridges a year if they do get 1 billion of these units out to people who could use it.
@Nightmare Corporation that prefilter looked like an aerating stone for an aquarium.
Also the 3 plastic tubes will have to get cleaned and probably replaced at some point.
@@woodstream6137 That's likely all it is, something to keep out big particulate matter. It's not cleaning the water at all, it's just preventing big chunky crap from getting into the device. I have to imagine it'd be pretty cheap to replace if you had to, but I imagine all it'd need is a good rinse out every once in a while to last a long time.
I actually work in the water purification field here in the state of Florida when it comes to the reverse osmosis filters a lot of times you need to pre-rinse them to make sure you get any dust residue out of the center the yellow nest that came out first was what’s known as a pre-rinse and your water got cleaner and cleaner as the filter got rinsed of all the particulates covering it when we receive those filters they are covered in plastic, so as not to let any fingerprints or bacteria or solids reach the filter before it’s put into the housing
It's exactly the same with any other home water filters - you don't drink the first few liters of water through a new brita cartridge
@@HaralHeisto ya i remember getting the brita filter like jugs and you suppose to rinse the filter for a bit first. Like i remember rinsing the first filter and you get clear like blue water coming out through it lol. The later replacement filter didn't turn blue but i rinse them throughly before using XD
Just drink the chlorine mate, builds character!
Try punctuation.
I miss the fun bloopers at the end of each video. I hope you’ll bring them back soon!
I want "dad joke of the week " back.
I'd be happy with either of them - but something to smirk about at the end of a video is missing right now a bit...
Me too! Fridge cam and dad jokes are also something I miss from the old formats. They were all such fun ways to end the videos.
This I been binge watching and I miss them so much!
For the steam cleaner, I see that as a rentable device. If it costs £140, then rent it out at a tenner a day, people rent it for a day, blitz through the kitchen for the afternoon, return the next day. The customer gets to clean their kitchen for only a tenner rather than having to get an expensive device and the company gets a profit with just 2 weeks worth of rentals. People aren't likely to buy a £140 machine they don't use that often, but a tenner a go they'll likely do it every couple of months or so
Now that’s a great idea! 👏
Would you trust your friends with this if you were the one to buy it? I’m not sure I would.
Or a Thing/Tool/Kitchen Library! Those are starting to get more popular in various cities; as you say there's plenty of things you don't need to own ALL the time -- so if you can borrow a blender or a drill or a steamer for a few days and then return it for someone else to use the next week, it's more cost-effective AND more environmentally friendly!
@@SortedFood there are steam cleaners on the market from like... 70s. Karcher being most popular in EU. I got mine for 20 Euros.
That was my thought too. Many grocery and hardware stores where I live have rentable carpet steam cleaners, the same business model applies.
Great episode as always.
For the steam cleaner, as others have observed, it makes great sense for a small group of households to pitch in together and to share.
For the desalinator, one possible explanation for the earlier color of the output could be the filter needing conditioning. Anyone who's used a home water filter with a replaceable filter cartridge has experienced, when you first put in a new cartridge, you need to run water through it for a time. This removes any loose particles of the filter's stationary phase (carbon and other compounds). There may also be a need for the filter to become initially "saturated" in order for it work at full capacity.
I could see maybe renting the steam cleaner for the 2-3 times a year that you might need it.
But you can buy a Bissell handheld steam cleaner for about $40 so the price is ridiculous.
@PJ Schmid it also looked very plasticky for that much money
You can get a lot of far cheaper steam cleaners that have the same or better functionality
For some reason the gadget reminds me of the Russian sailor who used live steam from his shop's engine to clean some pots and pans.
Shame the ship was nuclear powered.
That portable dishwasher thing would be great for sterilizing home brewing, fementing, or canning equipment. Especially the larger pieces that are hard to get into a dishwasher.
Especially anything with a narrow neck, which is most brewing/fermentation.
Pretty much. It looks like the type of equipment you'd find in a small hobby chemist or school chem lab. Not quite professional enough to be used in a "real" pro environment, but certainly useful for smaller things.
And just the perfect way to clean glass that's hard to get into with your hands or even a spongy stick.
That being said, if you DON'T have a lot of small glassen ware with tiny openings at home, then this is just a waste.
A hand held steam cleaner will do the job for about 25% of the price.
100% People don't even know.
Ben *Let's test this meat thermometer*
Also Ben: I'm a Chef, I'm taking the steak off, regardless of the thermometer.
@@Sletchman To be fair, they could've mentioned in the instructions that it would tell you when to take it out & let the carryover finish it up while it rests. Especially if it's geared towards less experienced cooks who might not know about resting meats.
what i find weird is a "professional chef" not owning a thermometer?
@@pinbi7 I think he did say he owns a thermometer? He specifically said that temp & feel are the only ways to know for certain when something's done cooking.
@@pinbi7 In one of their Christmas gifts for foodies videos, Ben mentions that he and kush both have the same thermometer and have had them for over a decade
@@SeraphimCramer It said to take it out and let it rest at the temp for it sitting out on a counter, he put foil over it after taking it out early. So...
Different rest method, I don't know which is better.
The idea of backing something not to end up with the product, but to donate it instead is an amazing idea. I wish we saw more of those.
Right. that's one of the purposes of crowdfunding to donate to those people either with an idea but can't be funded by banks or venture capitalists or funding more impoverished people trying to build a livelihood.
Nowadays, crowdfunding is all about trying to get something out of it and calling it a scam if it fails. People should stop funding already well-off people who just don't want to put in the money in their own project
That's not at all what this product was. Its just a normal backing project. They just say their goal is to supply a billion of them by 2027 which is frankly a pretty insane goal considering its a market that's been around for like 50 years already.
Are they going to donate spare filters too, not sure how long they will last
I feel like I’m the only person who truly appreciates Jamie and his jokes, ‘The Jam’ really got me good 😂
that killed me. 😂 I wonder how many people know the song
Was searching for this comment.. the joke and the serious face delivery with eye contact to the camera.. comedy gold!
It was the facial expression and sincerity for me😂
Coming from a country where we experience water scarcity I think the sea water desalinator is probably the most useful and could be life saving.
Depends on how long the filter lasts and how expensive they are to make. If you only get like 10 litres of one filter and they cost 20 quid each I guess they would be a hard sell in the regions that do need them.
@@michi6486 Yea. That's what I as thinking as well. For me if it's good or not will rest entirely on how long that filter lasts. Because often with these crowdfunded gadgets it ain't long. It's long enough to get some fun out of it and then it just does not work anymore. But since most don't use it for 100-1000 Liters they would never know.
The website claims about 1000 liters, 60 bucks for 2 filters. A family of 4 would need to pay 120 us dollars a year for water filters, which isn't a negligible amount, about 1/3 of 1 months minimum salary in many places and in other places is 1/3 of the total annual income of some Really poor families.
Other good way is make a sort of distilery.
You can Cook the water till it starts to evaporate and when the steam get in the coulder part it starts to change back in its fluid form.
(You will have some water loss bud its bether than having nothing.)
The life saving answer is large scale desalination and water sharing agreements. Individuals should never have to bear the burden of acquiring basic human needs in a modern society, whilst companies get obscenely rich achieving that.
Hey sorted...have you ever gone back and checked out which of the kitchen gadgets you still use after a few years?
They still use the supoon!
I have had a similar sized wand steam cleaner for 25 years and it is used alot from kitchen to bathrooms, windows to carpet spot cleaning, car rims to greasy engines and furniture refinishing. My son even uses it in his restaurant. You really pay for the strength of the blast and durability. What I appreciate most is that there is no chemicals needed and just leaves a fresh clean smell. Don't know how long this machine is going to keep going but when it finally does "run out of steam" it will be replaced immediately and will put out the dollars to get one that is well made.
3:18 I don't know if it's the magic of editing but y'all seem really good at both throwing and catching things on set.
The water treatment device is interesting, but it's going to share a similar problem that many other water treatment systems run into. I work with table-top steam sterilizers which require distilled water, so water filtration systems are usually involved.
The problem they have is needing to replace the filters at different intervals, depending on the location of the customer (high altitude with hard water 300ppm+ or some place like the American mid-west where the average is much lower) you can be changing filters once a month or once every 4-6 months.
I can only imagine that treating literal sea water and untreated water in developing countries is going to burn through that RO system much faster than your typical tap water would. I hope that the cost of the filters has been considered when trying to donate something like this to people that cannot afford it.
Exactly my concern
I fail to see how that's a concern. It's not meant to be a permanent solution, but an emergency device.
Think natural disasters like earthquakes and hurricanes, send these while the infrastructure is being repaired.
6:23 A legitimate concern. Screw the apps that ask for information that they have no business needing. That alone makes it a non-starter.
The second gadget is typically something we should have in a “library”, where everyone in the neighbourhood could borrow tools we only use every quarter or semester. One of those could be used by so many people!
There is an object library in my town! It's based exactly on the principle that it's a waste to build a thousand tools that are only needed a few times a year, or once in several years like a bathroom sink wrench. They also have kitchen appliances, party items such as extra glasses and chairs and decorations, and gardening tools. And they have two vapor cleaners.
They also organise repair workshops every week, as well as sewing and woodworking workshops.
The membership to the association is 5 € a year and while a lot of the objects can be borrowed for free, some of the tools may cost 5 € or even 10 € a week.
I live for these videos where Ben is paired with a normal to review gadgets together
gives a normal and chef view for sure, though I am starting to wonder just how "normal" the lads are with how far they've come, they know a crazy amount of stuff I would never have even considered as a home cook.
Ben, surprised the cartridge in the quench sea was not addressed for its longevity. Sustainability of these types of products is always very important for the Sorted crew.
Even the economic benefits are questionable as the unit itself costs £111 and the filters are £51 for 2 and say the RO membranes will last between "6 to 12 months" and produced "up to 1,000 litres of fresh water". There's also the pre-filters which go for £34 for 2 but it doesn't say how long they last (I assume the same 1,000L). As with most water SDG related stuff there is a lot of buzzword bullshit about "state-of-the-art" and "sophisticated hand-operated level and hydraulic system" but when you drill down into it it's not a new technology the "innovative" part is a hand pump but good luck pumping that for an extended period of time.
So that's £42.50 of consumables per 1000L of water so what 42.5p a litre... that's not exactly that cheap. In an emergency situation it's fine but in an emergency situation there would also likely be cheaper and more effective technologies available as this thing requires sea water.
@@spikeychris That's not even innovative. Hand pumped versions of these are really common as a backup on ships and life boats and have been for many decades. Industrial scale reverse osmosis plants have been running since the early 70s. So i'm sure personal units probably weren't far behind.
They also failed to mention that the point of the steam cleaner was that it replaced the need for disinfectants and chemical cleaners - which is a HUGE deal! While it was marketed as being able to wash dishes it was not a dishwasher but a food-safe chemical free disinfector that can be used on anything that is dishwasher safe or steam cleanable. The deep frying basket was the only good test as it showed it was able to handle really difficult cleaning using only hot water - and somehow in a manner where both of them were not burnt or apparently hurt even when misusing the device to wash a glass bowl very near his face.
That dayoo steam cleaner really feels like something youd never own but instead rent from a kitchen supply or high end grocery store. Something to use over the weekend after a party n such or when you know families coming to visit and you must get the kitchen spotless.
As a rental product that does seem very useful
If our society was more communal and no bad actors like, sold it, id say itd be a good thing for like an apartment building to communally own? You only use it when you need it and then it goes into closet for things you only need to borrow sometimes that everyone shares
Like my building has a shared bbq we all pitch in for the gas cylinders for, i could see this pressure cleaner being something like that, but only if you could trust your neighbours
(Its a lot harder to steal a big ass bbq)
I used to work dish in a restaurant, and product #2 is something I'd give my left arm for. For cleaning party days, or before service but after prep when a lot of things have been used. I clean the fry baskets and the fryers. Its sale price of $200 right now might seem like a lot, but if it works that well, it could easily be worth every penny.
Definitely! Thanks so much for your comment and insight.
As someone with chemical allergies the idea of being able to have a device strong enough to clean a fryer basket with nothing but water is huge! Especially with it apparently being safe enough to not burn your face when doing something idiotic like using it to clean a glass bowel while having your face directly over it. A pity your review didn't go into more detail on it's build quality and uses beyond washing dishes because having a handheld food safe disinfector using just water is a product people should be buying - if you included the context of the fact that it replaces the need for disinfectants, oven cleaners, dishwashing liquid, cleaning clothes and time wasted scrubbing while yes...also being able to clean dishes without a dishwasher it would pay for itself - assuming the build quality is good enough.
One day you guys will have to review a cloche. There should be a cloche under the cloche one day.
The steam cleaner puzzles me, except for being wall mountable, it does not appear to be doing anything different from models currently on the market.
You can get a typical steam cleaner on Amazon right now for $50 or less. For that price one could buy 3 cleaners (dedicate 1 for kitchen, 1 for bathroom, and 1 for general house cleaning) and still spend less than the Kickstarter model
Jamie's "pump up the jam" reference hit WAY different when the last video I watched had the vintage donut filler. My ribs hurt now and I thank you.
1:29 for the vintage viewers, sing it with me “Barry and Ben are the best of friends”😂☺️🥰🤷♀️
"They live together in their country cottage"
They have baths together cause they love to save water
Scrub my back Ben!
Yeah I'm not very convinced with the desalinator. It seems like one of those things that people design and forget how water collection in water scarce regions actually works. It's not going to be five people pumping for water for days on end until they get drinkable water comes out, but women who will need to do all of this while thinking of safety, time, finding water sources, and much more. The idea might be right but it can definitely do with better design. And I'd love to see how long those filters last in the first place
I mean for drinking water, id absolutely put in the effort to pump it
You can absolutely die from just getting the runs from even slightly bad water
Its less effort than making beer! Wich is historically is what you made to have something safe to drink
Pump for a while or go through the effort of brewing beer, i know what id do
Its a like, personal use thing, or small family thing
Not stick one end in a well or the ocean for the whole village thing, thats what the big engine powered desalinators are for
For the scale its for, especially for temporary disaster relief, its absolutely useful
I would like to see a laboratory analysis of the water that came out.
I want some samples to run
Me too, although TBH given the current issues with coastal water around the UK, running the output through the human gut is probably the acid test. I'd *really* like to know the lifetime (and replacement cost) of the semi-permeable membrane filter assembly.
@@SuperAd1980 do these alternatives you mentioned also don’t require electricity? I’m genuinely asking because I have no idea. Because at sea or very remote places electricity is not a given.
@@SuperAd1980 they said they will donate units to resource poor areas, meaning it is implied to be used long term. But i see the scam. They donate the units, but the filters will need to be replaced. Filters like these cannot be washed repeatedly without damaging the integrity and guarantee of the filter. Molecules that have ADsorbed into the activated carbon have already been bound and cannot be washed.
They probably made just as much sweat as drinkable water pumping it.
Pump up the jam was absolutely fantastic 😂😂 well done 👏
So, a question I have about that last item. It kinda relies on the filter, but filters don't last. How long does it last, and is it recyclable. If a family by the sea or ocean relies on it, then how much are they burdened by the company who owns the patent?
You definitely wont be able to rely on it. Just look how much trouble they had. And how quickly the salt would accumulate in the filter
This system isn't suitable for daily family use. There are much easier, and cheaper filtration systems available for that, including solar stills and standard stills.This would be more for emergency use, or use on a boat. The ideal use case would probably be somewhere like the US in a hurricane zone, where there's a chance of infrastructure being knocked out at short notice and staying out long enough to run out of bottled water.
That last one was super cool. I can see it making a huge difference in the world and as a personal use would be a great safety thing to have on your lifeboat if you go out on the ocean.
Jamie's jam joke was top tier, I laughed more then I should have 😄😄😄😄😄
With you guys, my Sundays are Sorted!!!
Love to hear it!!!
Yes! More Ben reactions to products! Love this videos! You guys are the best!
Thanks Daniel, so glad you like these types of videos.
That QuenchSea is... really basic handpump adapter over a reverse osmosis filter, which is used for ages across the world to putify water. Nothing groundbreaking in it, but it does work perfectly fine and really removes microbes (salt is MUCH smaller than them).
Looks like it could use a longer lever.
Mike's evidence of collecting seawater was hilarious
My only concern with the Quench is how long that filter is going to last. How many gallons/liters of water can you expect to convert with the pump before you need to replace the filter and how much a replacement filter costs? Selling the unit at a low cost with the hopes of making long term profitable revenue with sales of the proprietary filter is a fairly common business model.
I was not quite sold on the steam cleaner, and then Barry said cleaning the oven...the man is right!! Still too expensive for me, but I would LOVE to try that.
It's a great gadget to try 👌
Buy a hand steam cleaner. A 10-in-one. You’ll use it everywhere.
Would love to hear if Barry actually used it on his oven and how that turned out
@@Mitwadus Yeah, at that price point I'd get a cordless handheld device. Allows you to clean the kitchen, the bathroom, your car, …
The real question on the water purifier is, how quickly does it churn through those filter desalinating sea water, and how much do they cost to replace?
Yay, love the crowdfunded gadget reviews!
Having lived in Haiti and knowing how hard clean water was to get...I want to back this.maybe it shpuld have clamps to keep hoses in place but other than that...brillant!
i have a steam cleaner cost $150 and has like 20 attachments can mop the floor or use a nozzle like that, love it.
Watched this because of the thumbnail featuring the quenchsea. I live by the ocean and have one for emergency. I think it’s amazing they’ve made this so affordable and available and I hope it helps to encourage interest in the expansion and availability of clean water technologies.
I have a steam cleaner that I paid less than $50.00 to purchase. It may not have adjustable pressure settings but, it does a good job of steam cleaning.
I got mine for 20 Euros. 4 different nozzles and a scrubber to clean surfaces, this is available for so long already
The cost difference is that it's approved for use on food surfaces and goes to a higher temperature. It has a patient as the first kitchen grade steam cleaner for home use. It's won a few good design awards and has certifications for disinfecting and chemical free cleaning. It's a pity Sorted didn't do a proper review as if the build quality is good it would pay for itself over a cheaper one.
Slight redesign for the water filter: Longer output hoses, with collapsible stands to stabilize them.
The Meater Thermometer has been doing the remote thermometer thing for years and years. Much more refined and can operate with 4 thermometers at a time and the charger is built in extender. Guga Steak channel has been using it forever too.
We did try Meater a few years ago too!
Ben is SO RIGHT about the difference in recipes a lot of people get mad when they cook it don’t match the recipe!
The steam cleaner is pe fect for Sorted - they could keep it in the studio and each take it home in turn. So, good for a group of friends to pass around and share the cost.
That's definitely a great way of buying something a bit pricy in a shared household.
The same is true of things like pressure washers and household steam cleaners for furniture and things. Anything you use seldom enough that working out a shared custody agreement with other owners is worth the hassle
@@Agamemnon2 Or somewhere like HSS Hire could buy a thousand and rent them out like an industrial carpet cleaner.
I was skeptical with the water purifier, but it seems to be a actually amazing piece of kit. I hope they reach their goal, because as Ben said, this can easily be actually live saving.
My only issue is: how much for the filters? How long they last?
@@peterwilks4391 Reverse osmosis membranes cost about 20-40 pounds depending on the size and output. The quality does go down eventually but for this specific scenario it should last a while.
It's just another filter. The question is how much water can be filtered before needing replacement. Not a lot because that filter is small.
Useful and affordable as a tool for people who travel for fun, not in any common critical situations.
More for rich people and definitely not for the poor individuals who have limited access to clean water.
Ooooh. The vids have been on point lately boys! Any chance of Ben and Kush reviewing some more gadgets of yesteryear?
The concept of the salt water filtration system is brilliant, but I do see a few potential issues. 1) The system has a lot of room for user error, seeing how much semi-filtered water you guys were pumping out. 2) What is the lifespan of that filter, how easy/cheap is it to replace and dispose of the filter, and is there an indicator for when the filter needs to be replaced? 3) I want to see a thorough analysis of that water for pathogens, heavy metals, and other contaminants before drinking it.
Love these reviews and hate them because I always want something! That steam cleaner would be perfect for bathrooms and I need it in my life!!
If you have 140GBP for the cleaner then just buy a normal Karcher steam cleaner - it will be similarly priced or even cheaper, has more pressure and bigger water tank. Power cable is miles long and the hose is long enough to clean everything you need. Tons of accessories included. It also takes no more space than Dayoo. It has a handle so you can hold it up if you need to. That Dayoo thing is just using kickstarter to sell existing stuff to people that don't know it already exist as a new invention.
The hand pumped sea water osmosis pump is not new as a concept. There has been a version available for some time, and suitable for including in a liferaft. (Katadyn Survivor 06). The cost is good, but one of the most important pieces of info missing was how much could it produce. I am very dubious about its claim to remove bacterial matter, as no reverse osmosis systems have this ability. You would need to pass it under an intense ultra violet source,
Boiling the cleaned water would help a lot too, but that's an unknown possibility in some emergency situations
@@Oleandra-13 The fact that it is a Sea Water system means that it is very unlikely that you would have the means to boil water in a survival situation.
"the jam" was such a bang on delivery
That steam cleaner looks like somebody modified my CPAP machine. 😂
the only thing about the last one. if those filters are not replaced often enough there will grow bacteria it can't filter out and people could die from that. it's a really cool concept but i'm a bit concerned about that bit.
(i just recently attended a seminar about water filtration)
The steamer wouldn't be good for normal dishes, as they discovered, because of the high temperatures involved. I can easily see it as a deep cleaner for the kitchen (oven, deep fryer baskets, etc.), though.
Also, as another person said in the comments, I'd be interested to see how long the filter lasts and how much replacements cost. It could be a game changer for those in water- scarce regions, but only if the replacement filters are inexpensive.
Overall, enjoyed this video a lot!
whats the point of vacuum if we could use broom
@@mikemcklieve What's the point of a calculator when you can use abacus.
I have a regular steam cleaner (it's designed for home use, not kitchen specific) and it was $150USD. I think it is a lot more versatile than the one they reviewed; it's on wheels and isn't restricted to wherever it's been wall mounted. They are pricey, but I love being able to clean and sanitize without using harsh chemicals. And it makes cleaning things, such as my bathtub, much easier.
@@alleycaaat Only question is whether it reaches as high a pressure, but that aside it's also what I was thinking: a general purpose steam cleaner with the relevant attachment seems like it would be a better bang for your buck, it would be in a similar price range and applicable to significantly more situations.
@@Bob-nc5hz I can't remember the output specs on mine, but I don't know that it's the pressure so much as the temperature of the steam that matters? Maybe for things like a deep fryer basket you do want more pressure, but in general the temperature is what I focus on. I have an attachment that you can add little nylon or brass bristle brushes to, I imagine that's what would keep the temperature and pressure the highest. Now I kind of want to see a side-by-side comparison of the two on a deep dryer basket. :) It seemed like a rather Ugh I Am Adult purchase, but 10/10 I recommend a steam cleaner!
Ben, I'm totally with you. If the app says it shares your data with 3rd parties I never download it nor if it asks for anything outside what you'd class as usual usage info. Plus I now have an app blocker. Quick check says in last 7 days it's stopped 115,000 tracking attempts over 21 apps. Outrageous. Leave us alone corporate bastards!
If sorted could release a crowd funded kitchen item, wonder what it would be?
What would you like it to be Alex?
@@SortedFood something that makes life easier for disabled people. I have lots of ideas but not the ability to take them further 😢
@@alexdavis5766 crowdfund it!
@@SortedFood first a stool that will raise easily while you are sitting on it with locking wheels. Longer I stand in one place the greater the pain. This would help a wide range of handicap people.
A skillet that cooks like cast iron but doesn't weigh as much.
A powered can opener that isn't fidgety and is easy to use.
I was really impressed by the mini thermometer. I have a Bluetooth where probe goes into meat but transmitter is wired to it and sit outside . But then it has a lot bigger range than the mini.
ref meat stick mini, a wired one ( meat thermometer) isn't about the same. I use one i bought from Tesco for under £15. I set the temp and it beeps when it reaches it. What more do you need.
The reverse osmosis filter - The filter probably needs replacing every six months, and it's too expensive to rollout to the vast majority of the poor when a filter bag, gravity and a Solar water disinfection PET bottle can do the same job at a fraction of the price.
For the desalinator, how much pumping does it need to produce a given quantity of potable water? If you gave one to a family of four, how much time would they need to spend pumping, per day?
The sea water filtering device looked with an SCP Foundation video. But even if it's not for anomalies, if you boil the water, catch the vapor on a tin "roof" and then have it drip down as liquid, you'd have made a lot safer system. This device will be useful if you have no access to fire, so Fire Hunter people may be on to it.
In Hot climates, you can do the same style with just glass (or other material that lets light through) and the sun.
@@Ishlacorrin Yeah, a friend of mine creates low cost tech solutions, and one of the designs he teaches at refugee camps does exactly this. It's pretty much a filtration system using increasingly fine filtration mediums, and a solar one at the end to kill bacteria. There's a bit more to it, but that's basically what it is, and it's built almost entirely from recycled garbage that's commonly found around refugee camps. There's also no pumping involved either, it's entirely a gravity filtration system, and doesn't need any ongoing expenses (you need to replace the filtration medium every so often of course, but the mediums were partly chosen based on availability). The only advantage the device has is being compact and one piece, though that would be a huge advantage on boats.
That steam cleaner where it got the basket clean, it would be great for grill/broiler pans, grills, smokers, some of the baskets air fryers use.
The salt-water filtration system was amazing and is lifechanging for so many. I do like when you do these crowdfunded shows as it shows us what is trying to burst on the scene. Also, I know the steam cleaner/dishwasher is for the kitchen, but I was thinking how I really could use that in my bathroom. Great pick of products!
We need the lads revisiting all of the gadgets that they thought they wouldn't use again but now love and use all of the time. I totally see the cleaning machine going around all the Sorted staff houses deep cleaning ...."who has the portable dishwasher?! I need to clean my bathroom this weekend, the in-laws are coming".
#1 reason you should never buy the meat stick mini or app enabled devices like that
You never know when the company will either abandon support or go out of business.
Meaning either
- the app will stop being updated for new phones/devices/operating systems
- the servers that run the app will be shut down
- the company moves on and stops support
Get a more traditional digital thermometer that doesn't require your phone or their servers
This is very, very true.
12:27
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that was the dad jokes i was looking for in this kind of channel 🤣
Berry: What in the kitchen do you need to pump up?
Jamie: The Jam.
I spit out my water dying laughing that that. 🤣🤣🤣
Desalinization device is awesome. Could always use a secondary filtration (LifeStraw / Saywer filter) or boil for additional insurance.
The Desalinisator , if kept to a decent price on release, could be a game changer on a globalscale. Imagine after a disaster like a Tsunami part of the aid package is loads of these?
I have also looked in to backing this
Thing is, it's nothing new, and they're already widely used (Katadyn Survivor 35 and 06 for example). So I can't see them being a "game changer on a globalscale" even if they were cheaper than the competition.
3:18 whoa whoa whoa. Can we give Baz some love for that catch?? Brilliant!
Having used outdoors water filters & desalination pumps before I'd be interested to hear how much each filter can purify before replacement is required & the filter replacement cost. Usually replacement filters cost almost the same as the whole unit from past experience. I can see it being handy for short term humanitarian aid situations though.
Do you really want an App on your phone called "Meat-stick" though one wonders!? 😆
For the steam cleaner, might be worth a few friends/households clubing together & buying one, then sharing it around between them for say bi-monthly deep cleans?
For humanitarian aid situations you have mobile desalination units with a diesel generator, they've been around for decades. Nothing fancy about them.
this unit is too small to help in humanitarian needs tbh. I doubt you can realistically use it for more than one family. there already are large gas/diesel powered units that use the same principle and can help small communities. this would mostly be useful for camping or on a private boat, maybe as a backup in a beach vacation home.
Perhaps for individuals, without the aid of diesel? I would need to research it more, obviously.
@@Blackthorne369 That's what I was thinking of, thinly populated areas, no diesel or infrastructure to speak of. Like in some areas of the Philippines after a typhoon was knocked out power & water. Or many of the other coastal or island populations after a disaster. When the rescue services can't truck fuel or supplies in they'd be handy.
Meat sticks, Ben mounting stuff, and pumping yer big handle to push the salty liquid through... I'm sensing a theme here.
You know, the steamer would totally be worth it if like a family or some close friends got together and shared it. We've shared a big nice carpet cleaner the same way LOL
i have something to give that steam cleaner a run for its money. try an air fryer basket that has been neglected a deep clean for about 5 years.
I like the idea of the QuenchSea Desalinisation Device, but i can only see it on like boats, emergencies or in Humanitarion organizations and not as part of a 3th world country. Yes they would get access to fresh water, but will they be able to change the filters accordingly, what would a filter cost, can they affort it, how long would it last and what happens to the old filters, are they recyclable?
If it collects your location, and it knows you're cooking, say, beef at that location, the app can send that information back to the company, who sells it to a data broker, who in turn sells it to a company who wants to advertise to beef consumers in your postcode. So by using the thermometer you helped serve yourself more spamvertising.
Hmm, I'm just instantly asking how long that filter will last? Seems more as part of a emergency kit for your boat, not so much to save people in Africa, as they probably won't be able to change the filter.
That quench gadget would rip through those tiny filter cartridges. The people it's intended for use would not be able to afford the filters and would then keep using it with concentrated contaminates in the filter.
Isn't it safer to just use a classic desalinater where you boil the seawater and collect the clean water vapor??
You might have missed a use for the steam cleaner.I figure it would be great for bathrooms and anywhere else you need to sanitize without chemicals (babies toys clothes highchair etc),
There are plenty of high pressure steam products on the market that are cheaper and easier to use. I have something that is on wheels and I can use it for the kitchen, bathroom, my car and anywhere else where high pressure steam would work well and that for half the price.
I have one like that too, the x Vapor by Ariete and it's fantastic to clean all the difficult corners, high and low places you can't reach, with a lot of accessories for a lot of functions and price it was a little more than 100 euros.
R-O has been around for a long time and works beautifully. Here in the US most of the water-dispensing machines seen at stores are R-O based.
Great episode. Love seeing new gadgets. Could you use that steam cleaner to clean a non-convection oven?
Just answering Ben's question about location settings for thermometer app here:
Before Android 12, it's a requirement in Android for apps using Bluetooth to obtain Location permission.
I am assuming the thermometer uses Bluetooth to communicate with the app.
You guys should try the ninja foodi 15 in 1. That was be a really cool video to watch
Thanks for the suggestion :)
The Dupray steam cleaner is the one to go for, bought mine 5 years ago, does everything the one you tested does (apart from hang on a wall), reaches higher temp and pressure, plus cleans your floors and it also costs less and looks way cooler :)
Ben is right to be salty about a device wanting your data that it does not and should not need!
100%
That filter needs to be 💯 shared. That is useful and needed!!
How Barry said No after Ben said he'd mount generally made me laugh, we need Barry and Ben in more videos more often.
I can explain the need for location settings
I'm assuming when you connected via Bluetooth, you didn't actually have to pair the thermometer with the phone like you would a speaker. Whenever an app does that connection for you, it requires location settings. Phones roll that permission in with location settings because it's quite common for them to scan radio signals as an alternative to using GPS. They can then work out where you are by looking up the location of the nearby WiFi networks.
However, scanning through what's neaeby is also required to find the thermometer hence they ask for permission.
I love Crowdfunded Projects. Also, a gadget video on a Sunday? Such fun!
Regarding that steam cleaner, I would highly recommend just buying a Kärcher steam cleaner. It can do the same and do the floors etc as well for less cost!
These are always fun videos
6:22 for lots of reasons. For example, a survey company may come to them and ask for the kind of food most cooked with the app in such and such location. Well they can sell that information.
To be fair the last one seems pretty useless xD .... you sweat more water pumping the thing than the one you end up with .
It does require some elbow grease for sure 😂
Ben cleaning the glass cup with hot steam gave me great anxiety. I've seen glass break from thermal expansion/contraction, and personally found that glasses can be very fragile while being washed (ie they broke as I picked them up, no dropping or anything required). Is that not a concern in the UK? (I'm American for reference). Or is that just a problem with older glassware (as some of my stuff is)? I clean my glassware with a lot of trepidation...