Thanks for the video! I am currently living in Korea and like baseball gloves a lot myself. i think I've bought more than 30 different catchers mitts, including Wilson and Rawlings. Honestly, people in Korea and Japan don't like American style mitts that much. if you ever have a chance to come to this areas, you will see what I'm talking about. anyway, one reason is that American style mitts seem to have small pockets and it makes catchers feel nervous about catching balls. and the way they break in their mitts is very different from that of Americans. I think it's because people here get trained differently for catching balls since they are young. the reason they curl in the thumb side is because when they don't catch balls properly, it can hurt their thumb, resulting in injuries. I've experienced it myself with Wilson catcher mitt. And the reason they have long laces is their preference and they think it is easy to catch breaking balls (like slider). Overall, they like bigger pocket mitts and there are two famous dominant catchers mitts : 'Hatakeyama'(Japanese mitt) and 'One Eighty'(Korean mitt). Many other glove makers also copy Hatakeyama patterns. if You wanna know more about Asian mitts, then you should get one of those.
From just visually looking at the web, I can see the logic behind the ball not wanting to slip out towards the tip of the web area and potentially fall out. It curves a little bit more in towards the glove from the top and I can see why that would keep the ball in more effectively if it hit a spot in the pocket or palm and almost gets squeezed up to the web to slip out. The downside that I have noticed with that really loose web. I have seen a lot of catchers who use it miss balls a lot more off the end of the glove if they get the ball on the tip of the web. Especially ones that tail away from the catchers mid section. That I believe is a product of getting use to the shape still. But, that is my own personal conclusion. I think Mike Piazza and Benito Santiago had one of the best gloves in terms of catchers mitts. Also, got the USA hat the other day. Love it dude!
Japanese catchers mitts are made to accommodate the style of pitching in the NPB. There’s a much more intense emphasis on movement throughout the league. Think about how many arms from the NPB come to the MLB and are absolutely filthy. Bigger more clampy glove with a massive web gives you significantly more room for error.
I would love to see a super comprehensive video on all types of leather (just leather) from different countries. Horween, kip, Deer tanned cowhide, American steerhide, Japanese kip, fake leathers, super skins, mesh etc etc. Even a video (if you could) on leather dying processes and what colors may hold up the longest etc.
This is what I’ve been waiting for, love the shape on the buckler. I have a Zett pro status catchers mitt from Japan that I broke in the same way. It makes working up through the ball a lot easier when framing balls lower in the zone.
From what i see from the glove, the loose web is pretty logical. if you think about it, it makes a bigger pocket which leads to less ball dropped. like you said in the last catchers mitt video, “catching the ball is the most important factor of catching.” now throwing and transfers are also important but how similar the times were on the transfer shouldn’t make too much of a difference. therefore you have an advantage of catching it and less missed balls.
Well visually... It helps us pitchers too cuz the target is so big with the loose web. Yeah cuz i did a bullpen with my team mate that uses a gloves that looks like that (minus the long laces) also the sound... If you didn't notice the sound that these gloves make is absolutely amazing if catched corectly. Almost like a gun shot and that gives us more confidence in the bump or just in the bullpen.
I think most people like a loose web, even if it sounds dangerous, i think it makes it easier to break it, I kind of like the loose web, it makes it feel more caught in, like a deeper pocket, just enough to where you can feel the ball if your throwing it down to any base. Sometimes it does fly out if you're not closing it right, but it does feel more softer and better (IN MY OPINION). It just makes it seem easier to get the ball.
I believe that the looser web makes the glove looser faster and with a catchers mitt you really want it to get to the point where it just closes on impact and in my experience it can help you snag more balls that are badly thrown to your right or left
Thanks for the great video! I just got my son a catchers glove (we live in Japan, brand is Mizuno) and I was wondering if you could make a video on just the “box” vs “flat” break in. I don’t know anything and am just pitching a ton hoping it will break in.
Reasoning for the loose pocket is simply less squirt outs for instance if you got a ball that's kind of jostling around in there it's going to suck it up better than a stiff pocket
i know wilson and rawlings are diff and theres alot of pros and cons with both but which overall do you prefer. ill probably always go with rawlings even though ive never had a wilson i played catch with my friends a2k and we had same size and web.
I’m just guessing, but the looser upper web portion is to be more forgiving when the call pops out of the sweet spot. You mentioned the glove had softer leather, which may add more flex when catching heaters. A tighter sweet spot and a looser upper web may add help guarantee an easier more successful catch percentage. But which may lead to a slightly tuned adjustment and practice for transfers.
Varitek was having a really loose web on his all-star glove. He was saying that was for fly , more easy to catxh them and less risk that the ball rebounds.
The loose web has been a thing in Asian catchersgloves for as long as I've been involved in baseball, which is over 40 years. My take on it is, while you do not look to catch the ball in the web, some pitches will end up there (for example sliders in the dirt), and the loose web increases the chance of still catching it. A tightly laced web decreases the absorption of the ball's impact, making it more likely for the ball to skid away. Maybe Aso, the Wilson glove doctor, who is from Japan, can give a definitive answer.
do you think youd ever do a pitchers glove break in? im sure its not too different than an infielder, but im curious if there are other quirks thatd be useful to know
I like to think of it as the "old school American" style when it comes to the thumb and index (look at Don Mattingly shape glove when he played 3rd base), when it comes to explaining it too American. Web is loose for "assurance" because like you had said, were not trying to catch it there but rather to the side of index finger. With the top of thumb and index rolled in, we have second chance of securing baseball into pocket as ball makes its way up to the pocket. If ball goes past pocket and thumb/index tips, loose webbing acts as basket for assurance. Thank you
Hey BGK, go check out Kyle Higashioka's (NYY) Mitt, he is sporting that extreme loose web, which sometimes even was a topic on the broadcast. My theory besides the bigger target and area to simply catch the ball is, that it'll prevent the ball from shooting out, when you didn't catch it cleanly.
Also I’ve heard from watching a video from TH-cam on a guy explaining that if u miss the pocket when catching a ball that with the loose laces it’s less likely to snap the laces
I have a question for all kinds of gloves. Is it possible to break your glove and re-break in your glove? Like you have it broken in in one way, then after using it for a while, you decided that you want to wear your glove another way, so you re-break in or re-shape your glove to fit the new way you want to wear it? Also, on a related note, can you re-shape a Wilson A2000 glove that has already been broken in to make it into Japanese style?
i believe the reason for the loose web is just so it is out of the way of the rest of the glove, and can stay flat and stiff whilst the rest of the glove takes its softer shape
My theory is that the web is kind of disconnected from the glove so that the fingertips can curve in, If you look when he's explaining the "super box" The web bends with the glove but with the japan glove it doesnt because the web is almost a different part of the glove.
I’m pretty sure Asian gloves are made to be played the way that they play. But they break in a catchers mitt for breaking balls because if you watch some other Asian pitchers they throw a lot of breaking balls because they aren’t as big as a standard American pitcher.
The spot that Chris says you're supposed to catch the ball in is the spot you want the ball to hit the glove... that's not the same as catching it there. If you look at catchers in super slow-mo, the ball hits that spot and then often keeps going 'til it's snared in the loose webbing.
Maybe the reason why there web is so loose is its just a feeling thing maybe they like the way it feels and makes it more comfortable cause I'm not a catcher but if I was I would want something more loose to give me the feeling like the ball is going to go into the glove and stay there even though like you said you don´t catch it in the web.
@@ballgloveking so i have the a2000 in the video right now and i previously used a 34” heart of the hide. i broke the a2000 in as a box and the rawlings flat. as of right now i feel like rawlings broken in flat are the best gloves. they have a better shape in my opinion. yadi, posey, and jacob stallings all do the flat break in with rawlings
The reason for the loose web I´ve heard from a japanese catcher is that it helps on pop ups. That way the ball is not popping out as easily. Don´t pin me down on this, it´s just what I´ve been told.
Nvm, you made the video lmao. If you want to learn more about Japanese gloves, shoot me a dm. My kids are in elementary school and elementary does softball, so it might be fun.
You should try a different type of content maybe like pitching with different types of balls I don't know just a different this is all you just review gloves so maybe something different
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I know this has nothing to do with the video but I play infield mostly 2nd base sometimes 3rd should I get a rev1x or a a2000 I’ve never used either I’ve had 3 44s and want to try something new
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Thanks for the video! I am currently living in Korea and like baseball gloves a lot myself. i think I've bought more than 30 different catchers mitts, including Wilson and Rawlings. Honestly, people in Korea and Japan don't like American style mitts that much. if you ever have a chance to come to this areas, you will see what I'm talking about. anyway, one reason is that American style mitts seem to have small pockets and it makes catchers feel nervous about catching balls. and the way they break in their mitts is very different from that of Americans. I think it's because people here get trained differently for catching balls since they are young. the reason they curl in the thumb side is because when they don't catch balls properly, it can hurt their thumb, resulting in injuries. I've experienced it myself with Wilson catcher mitt. And the reason they have long laces is their preference and they think it is easy to catch breaking balls (like slider). Overall, they like bigger pocket mitts and there are two famous dominant catchers mitts : 'Hatakeyama'(Japanese mitt) and 'One Eighty'(Korean mitt). Many other glove makers also copy Hatakeyama patterns. if You wanna know more about Asian mitts, then you should get one of those.
From just visually looking at the web, I can see the logic behind the ball not wanting to slip out towards the tip of the web area and potentially fall out. It curves a little bit more in towards the glove from the top and I can see why that would keep the ball in more effectively if it hit a spot in the pocket or palm and almost gets squeezed up to the web to slip out. The downside that I have noticed with that really loose web. I have seen a lot of catchers who use it miss balls a lot more off the end of the glove if they get the ball on the tip of the web. Especially ones that tail away from the catchers mid section. That I believe is a product of getting use to the shape still. But, that is my own personal conclusion. I think Mike Piazza and Benito Santiago had one of the best gloves in terms of catchers mitts. Also, got the USA hat the other day. Love it dude!
Japanese catchers mitts are made to accommodate the style of pitching in the NPB. There’s a much more intense emphasis on movement throughout the league. Think about how many arms from the NPB come to the MLB and are absolutely filthy. Bigger more clampy glove with a massive web gives you significantly more room for error.
I would love to see a super comprehensive video on all types of leather (just leather) from different countries. Horween, kip, Deer tanned cowhide, American steerhide, Japanese kip, fake leathers, super skins, mesh etc etc. Even a video (if you could) on leather dying processes and what colors may hold up the longest etc.
Yes! This☝️☝️
Black leather holds up the longest, bar none
I’m not a catcher but I still love to watch these videos
Same here but you have to admit catcher gloves are cool.
This is what I’ve been waiting for, love the shape on the buckler. I have a Zett pro status catchers mitt from Japan that I broke in the same way. It makes working up through the ball a lot easier when framing balls lower in the zone.
From what i see from the glove, the loose web is pretty logical. if you think about it, it makes a bigger pocket which leads to less ball dropped. like you said in the last catchers mitt video, “catching the ball is the most important factor of catching.” now throwing and transfers are also important but how similar the times were on the transfer shouldn’t make too much of a difference. therefore you have an advantage of catching it and less missed balls.
recommend the Japan Hatakeyama pro m62 catcher mitt , super shallow pocket , hard to catch at the beginning , but once get used to it , fells great!
Good to know
@@ballgloveking where do you get this glove
@@ballgloveking shown in the video
Well visually... It helps us pitchers too cuz the target is so big with the loose web. Yeah cuz i did a bullpen with my team mate that uses a gloves that looks like that (minus the long laces) also the sound... If you didn't notice the sound that these gloves make is absolutely amazing if catched corectly. Almost like a gun shot and that gives us more confidence in the bump or just in the bullpen.
I think most people like a loose web, even if it sounds dangerous, i think it makes it easier to break it, I kind of like the loose web, it makes it feel more caught in, like a deeper pocket, just enough to where you can feel the ball if your throwing it down to any base. Sometimes it does fly out if you're not closing it right, but it does feel more softer and better (IN MY OPINION). It just makes it seem easier to get the ball.
I believe that the looser web makes the glove looser faster and with a catchers mitt you really want it to get to the point where it just closes on impact and in my experience it can help you snag more balls that are badly thrown to your right or left
Thanks for the great video! I just got my son a catchers glove (we live in Japan, brand is Mizuno) and I was wondering if you could make a video on just the “box” vs “flat” break in. I don’t know anything and am just pitching a ton hoping it will break in.
I would say that it helps with the bigger feel and allows for a greater miss area where u can still catch the ball
What wall mounted clips are you using
Great analysis. Keep it up.
Could you explain the flat catcher glove a little better vs the box
Reasoning for the loose pocket is simply less squirt outs for instance if you got a ball that's kind of jostling around in there it's going to suck it up better than a stiff pocket
i know wilson and rawlings are diff and theres alot of pros and cons with both but which overall do you prefer. ill probably always go with rawlings even though ive never had a wilson i played catch with my friends a2k and we had same size and web.
Let’s goooo new video I love these videos
I’m just guessing, but the looser upper web portion is to be more forgiving when the call pops out of the sweet spot. You mentioned the glove had softer leather, which may add more flex when catching heaters. A tighter sweet spot and a looser upper web may add help guarantee an easier more successful catch percentage. But which may lead to a slightly tuned adjustment and practice for transfers.
I’m a catcher and I live in America and this is really interesting
Varitek was having a really loose web on his all-star glove. He was saying that was for fly , more easy to catxh them and less risk that the ball rebounds.
That glove looks so nice
After like 2 years after I asked we finally got a catcher mitt vid
Thank you sent u a dm abt this actually been wondering this for a long time
More catchers mitt videos please
Also when the SSK zpro new ones come out need a wander Franco or a javy review
Love the Japanese style catchers glove..been looking for one for a long time
44 HND model is similar to a Japanese shape.
@@ozneBD I actually am picking one up tmr…im going to see how it feels always been fascinated with the style
@@FreakishZeke Hey i'm thinking of picking up that glove, how was it for you?
The loose web has been a thing in Asian catchersgloves for as long as I've been involved in baseball, which is over 40 years. My take on it is, while you do not look to catch the ball in the web, some pitches will end up there (for example sliders in the dirt), and the loose web increases the chance of still catching it.
A tightly laced web decreases the absorption of the ball's impact, making it more likely for the ball to skid away.
Maybe Aso, the Wilson glove doctor, who is from Japan, can give a definitive answer.
But I love your videos I hope you go viral
Do you think I could loosen the web on a regular catchers mitt to make it like the Japanese break in?
Could you please do a review on the Wilson A2000 DP15? Love your videos!
I will be soon!
do you think youd ever do a pitchers glove break in? im sure its not too different than an infielder, but im curious if there are other quirks thatd be useful to know
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You sir have got it down in terms of glove knowledge.
I like to think of it as the "old school American" style when it comes to the thumb and index (look at Don Mattingly shape glove when he played 3rd base), when it comes to explaining it too American. Web is loose for "assurance" because like you had said, were not trying to catch it there but rather to the side of index finger. With the top of thumb and index rolled in, we have second chance of securing baseball into pocket as ball makes its way up to the pocket. If ball goes past pocket and thumb/index tips, loose webbing acts as basket for assurance. Thank you
Hey BGK,
go check out Kyle Higashioka's (NYY) Mitt, he is sporting that extreme loose web, which sometimes even was a topic on the broadcast. My theory besides the bigger target and area to simply catch the ball is, that it'll prevent the ball from shooting out, when you didn't catch it cleanly.
Interesting. I watch all the Yankees games, and I'll try to look for that when he plays.
Also I’ve heard from watching a video from TH-cam on a guy explaining that if u miss the pocket when catching a ball that with the loose laces it’s less likely to snap the laces
I have a question for all kinds of gloves. Is it possible to break your glove and re-break in your glove? Like you have it broken in in one way, then after using it for a while, you decided that you want to wear your glove another way, so you re-break in or re-shape your glove to fit the new way you want to wear it?
Also, on a related note, can you re-shape a Wilson A2000 glove that has already been broken in to make it into Japanese style?
What is your favorite/the best first base mitt
i believe the reason for the loose web is just so it is out of the way of the rest of the glove, and can stay flat and stiff whilst the rest of the glove takes its softer shape
Yeah that makes sense
I know I've asked you this before, but could you maybe do an a2k vs a2000 video? I'm trying to see which one I should get for my high school season.
Great video
do you think youd be able to get your hands on a ssk glove of any kind?
Can you review a nokona glove please? I also love your videos!!
There’s a vid w aso on the Dodgers glove day when he says loosening it makes the pocket wider
Please a Ian Anderson glove vid and I’m wondering what the best glove is for third?
Not even a catcher, just watching for the content
What catchers mitt do you like best
Jose Abreu uses the baggy web at 1st base
Plzzzz do the all star pro elite catchers mitt
Make a 44 pro catchers mitt series HND
Great content
Thanks bro
My theory is that the web is kind of disconnected from the glove so that the fingertips can curve in, If you look when he's explaining the "super box" The web bends with the glove but with the japan glove it doesnt because the web is almost a different part of the glove.
I’m pretty sure Asian gloves are made to be played the way that they play. But they break in a catchers mitt for breaking balls because if you watch some other Asian pitchers they throw a lot of breaking balls because they aren’t as big as a standard American pitcher.
Do I use boiling water or just hot water from the sink
Not boiling! Just hot water from sink
The spot that Chris says you're supposed to catch the ball in is the spot you want the ball to hit the glove... that's not the same as catching it there. If you look at catchers in super slow-mo, the ball hits that spot and then often keeps going 'til it's snared in the loose webbing.
outfield glove break in guide soon?
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I remember Jason Varitek had a super loose web on his glove. Maybe that’s why?? The Red Sox had quite a few good pitchers from Asian countries
Love this vid
Unrelated topic but I’m choosing between Rawlings heart of the hide r2g or the a2000 1786 which one is better?
I'm not a fan of the R2G so I'd say 1786
Can you do a video on Byron Buxton’s glove
Yoo what happened to base ball TH-camrs man the deserve more
Maybe the reason why there web is so loose is its just a feeling thing maybe they like the way it feels and makes it more comfortable cause I'm not a catcher but if I was I would want something more loose to give me the feeling like the ball is going to go into the glove and stay there even though like you said you don´t catch it in the web.
You should do a Yadira Molina glove break in vid
If you search up burley tan and brown I have that and I use that for 12u baseball
cody bellinger glove ??
Not for a while my guy
what’s your catchers mitt of choice
This one right now but I’m working on an all star…
@@ballgloveking so i have the a2000 in the video right now and i previously used a 34” heart of the hide. i broke the a2000 in as a box and the rawlings flat. as of right now i feel like rawlings broken in flat are the best gloves. they have a better shape in my opinion. yadi, posey, and jacob stallings all do the flat break in with rawlings
@@ballgloveking also the rev1x infield glove feels so much different than the outfield
@@ballgloveking also the rev1x infield glove feels so much different than the outfield
You need to do a 574 review
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The reason for the loose web I´ve heard from a japanese catcher is that it helps on pop ups. That way the ball is not popping out as easily. Don´t pin me down on this, it´s just what I´ve been told.
You should do a Corey Seager review and break in if you want.
yea
I love the video but in my opinion the a2k seems better so much so that i got the a2k
A2K’s are soooo nice
Any ways to really speed up the process?
Jason Veritek, played with a lose web and he caught for Dice Kay
Day 2 of asking you to do a review on the jazz chislom ice cream glove
do a corey seger glove break in
Kyle higashioka on the Yankees uses a loose pocket on a big mizuno mitt.
do a corey seager glove break in
and a tats jr glove break in
can you do a marruci glove
The loose web 100% helps with those scoops and snags .. it’s not popular for no reason. It elongates your chances to make plays
Nvm, you made the video lmao. If you want to learn more about Japanese gloves, shoot me a dm. My kids are in elementary school and elementary does softball, so it might be fun.
ASMR video when
Also can I get a shout out in the next video please.
I think the web is loose because it won't get bullied as much when you catch in the web
You should try a different type of content maybe like pitching with different types of balls I don't know just a different this is all you just review gloves so maybe something different
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If you all do not know the ORIGINAL OG LOOSE WEB GOD.. Jason Varitek #33 Red Sox. THAT...... is a loose web
I know this has nothing to do with the video but I play infield mostly 2nd base sometimes 3rd should I get a rev1x or a a2000 I’ve never used either I’ve had 3 44s and want to try something new
That was too close at 7:19 🥜. 😳🥺😖😫🫢🤢🤮🥴🚑🏥🤕
I’m a catcher and I live in America and this is really interesting