I got back into 2 wheelers after a 10 year break. I was a kid and broke my leg in 3 places on a 50cc. When I hopped on hte 23 yz125 it just looked and felt right. Like it was made for me. I love it so much more than previous year's designs. it's literally a whole different bike- my instructor has a 2021 and it shreds but i like the look of the 23 better.
You broke your femur? I also wanted the motorcycle but when I see that you say things like that... but I still don't get discouraged but you have to be careful when you are on 2 wheels
This was great ! I actually done this test unknowingly about 2 years ago. Went from riding my rmz 250 2020. To trying my bros (new to him 2018yz125) And was consistently 4 secs a lap faster on the 125 😶 Safe to say the rmz was sold and went onto the yzs 🤣😅 The one thing I would say about the rmzs though is the reliability. In out experience they have been phenomenal, :) as long as you keep up on the oil . Definitely will last twice as long as a yz 125 regardless of your level :) and for most us club riders they're more than enough bike especially for the price, compared to a ktm. 😶😶 Great job josh and Dennis 👍
You're reliability ratings are the EXACT OPPOSITE of what has been known in the dirt bike world forever . Yamaha has ALWAYS been rated # 1 in reliability with Honda Suzuki Kawasaki and KTM rounding out the list in that order .
Yz125 07 is still my favourite bike I've ridden. Currently on te300 but have had 93 cr250, 98 rmx250, 92 wr500 with new style chassis and suspension plus everything else running old air-cooled yz490 which was awesome. Few of them wish didn't sell as collectors these day's. different yeared from 08 on ktm300exc. Have ridden nearly every other model of newer 2 and 4 strokes. Don't get me wrong 4strokes are sic but bit boring to ride as nearly always straight and horrible constant loud roar that gets boring and annoying to watch. Can't tell who's revving. 2bangas love to slide, sound awesome, lighter easier to throw around and alot cheaper to buy and fix. Unless your pro, ride for the fun. Avagud1 mate
I had both a 22 yz 125 and 19 rmz 250 and the rmz was an awesome bike, but I could not get over how stiff the suspension was. I thought the motor was not bad at all and really enjoyed it on a smooth track. The yz 125 suspension is stiff as well, but its much more manageable than the rmz.
Also if you ever realize he always picks KTM over Yamaha. And recently Ktm brands have a recall on pistons breaking and ecu’s. Also at the track the ktm doesn’t even out pull a yz. Plus there were ktm owners at the track that rode another guys new yz125 and they all said it was better power than the ktm and handled better and of course better suspension! That was shocking to hear from die hard ktm guys.. plus the fact this magazine guy never tells which bike is far more reliable! Yamaha! Others have..
Great idea for a comparison and great video. You should follow it up with an average rider modded out version, so pipe and silencers on both, forks fixed on the Zuk.
Agree 100%. I see 2017/2018 YZ 125;s going for $5k. Best price I found for the new version of the RMZ was $6300 otd before the Covid and Brandon inflation took effect.
Nice video!! Another evaluation criteria I'd like to see is "how good of a play bike is it for a vet dude". I have my main bike (350) but really want a 125 for a play bike. Haven't ridden a 125 in 20 years, I may be in for a rude awakening after that 350 life. Anyways, love your content!!!
@@aauht I can confirm this from California. Just gotta be patient because not alot of ppl are spending big money on bikes so Suzuki's sit in the showroom.
@@jpesicka492 Yea, im not sure what ur usual fees are on bikes in cali but i saw on insta someone called temecula about a 5k RMZ and they told him it was over 8k OTD in fees so its still alot lol but if they add 3k to everything then its a good deal i guess
What oil and ratio are you running on the YZ125? I’m using Honda HP2 at 32:1 and appears much more smokey compared to what’s coming out the exhaust on your guys bike.
Yz 125 all the way, I see that everyday at any track, Guys struggling trying to ride a 450 while every kid on 85cc passing them like nothing, Can you imagine a RMZ 250 🤦🏻♂️ Usable power is the key.
@@jpesicka492 ya I follow them on ig. Hopefully more dealerships will give deals again. I just want a freakin 110 again lol those shouldn’t have a $600 upcharge
Which one would you recommend to a 40 year old entry level rider, 6’0“ tall and 200 pounds? YZ 125 or RMZ 250? Just riding as a weekend warrior and wanna have some fun on track. No racing, no series
@PST Motorsport ... I've never owned a 4-stroke before, but I've had 3 YZ125's over the years & 2 YZ250 2-strokes... easy to work, parts are cheap & plentiful, bike is light & suspension is top notch, really can't go wrong with one... & they are fast bikes... you can also get a 144cc big bore kit & increase the engine displacement... the YZ125 would be my choice
Back when I raced a 14 rmz I would get beat by this 17 era ktm 150 no matter what. The kid was also 50 pounds lighter. Each 7 pounds is supposedly a horsepower. And the bikes from factory are pretty much the same hp numbers.
So im a 6'0 foot dude thats a hefty 250ibs😅 what would be a good starter bike for me ? Last time i rode a bike was a Yamaha 90cc when i was like 9 and im 30 now.
So, first it’s MOTO cross action Josh not motor cross action. It actually says it on your jersey. Second, apparently CA has different prices as no where in the rest of the US are new YZ125s or RMZ250s 5k. NOWHERE!
At 13 years old i bought someones old practice 97 yz125 Had a race motor pro circuit suspension excel wheels.. I couldnt even touch the ground and always had quads before that.. However a friend needed money for 1000 i owned it and learned quick enough yz125 is a great bike for amateurs and pros
@@herbcanter2114 40 hours on a new RMZ at amateur level is only fuelling up and changing oil. Not sure what’s there for a 125 2-stroke to win, since it would require the top end to be done twice in the same time span.
@@cheetah694 not so, we had new yz125 and rode it hard and fast, took top end apart at 100 hours and piston still had its machining marks and unable to measure any ring wear with electronic calipers.
It's official now I've seen them on three different videos Boston Terriers the Official Dog of Motocross (I have five that go with me to races they like the smell of two stroke)
Also the rules of mx racing engine capacity is a joke. They stopped racing 500 2stroke back in the day because of dangers from power of bikes and bad accidents and deaths occurred to often Around the world. So 500 was banned and stopped been produced and sold. 4stroke builders said they have to be 1.6 times size of 2bangas to be competitive. 1 race yamaha yzf400 won race by heaps. If they want to race they should be same size capacity. It's ridiculous. Big companies just want to rip us off and half people can't afford these day's. 4strokes should just be in dakar
This is the test i didnt know i wanted to see!
I got back into 2 wheelers after a 10 year break. I was a kid and broke my leg in 3 places on a 50cc. When I hopped on hte 23 yz125 it just looked and felt right. Like it was made for me. I love it so much more than previous year's designs. it's literally a whole different bike- my instructor has a 2021 and it shreds but i like the look of the 23 better.
You broke your femur? I also wanted the motorcycle but when I see that you say things like that... but I still don't get discouraged but you have to be careful when you are on 2 wheels
This was great ! I actually done this test unknowingly about 2 years ago. Went from riding my rmz 250 2020. To trying my bros (new to him 2018yz125)
And was consistently 4 secs a lap faster on the 125 😶
Safe to say the rmz was sold and went onto the yzs 🤣😅
The one thing I would say about the rmzs though is the reliability. In out experience they have been phenomenal, :) as long as you keep up on the oil . Definitely will last twice as long as a yz 125 regardless of your level :) and for most us club riders they're more than enough bike especially for the price, compared to a ktm. 😶😶
Great job josh and Dennis 👍
You're reliability ratings are the EXACT OPPOSITE of what has been known in the dirt bike world forever . Yamaha has ALWAYS been rated # 1 in reliability with Honda Suzuki Kawasaki and KTM rounding out the list in that order .
I'm only talking from our personal experience. 2018/2020 rmz 250s they were brilliant :)
Available for 5K????? Tell me where and I'll take two of the blue!
Two strokes all day long baby!
I owned a Yz125 and sold it for a Rmz250 I like the feel of the 4 stroke but the 2 stroke just sounds great when you pin it out of a corner
$5k…? Where can I buy a Yz125 for that price?
The YZ125 All Day Any Day. It will make you a better rider. Its still an advanced training bike and a single track weapon.
I just had my yz 125 suspension re valved and re sprung for my 190# weight. Night and day difference feels like a totally new bike.
Yz125 07 is still my favourite bike I've ridden. Currently on te300 but have had 93 cr250, 98 rmx250, 92 wr500 with new style chassis and suspension plus everything else running old air-cooled yz490 which was awesome. Few of them wish didn't sell as collectors these day's. different yeared from 08 on ktm300exc. Have ridden nearly every other model of newer 2 and 4 strokes. Don't get me wrong 4strokes are sic but bit boring to ride as nearly always straight and horrible constant loud roar that gets boring and annoying to watch. Can't tell who's revving. 2bangas love to slide, sound awesome, lighter easier to throw around and alot cheaper to buy and fix. Unless your pro, ride for the fun. Avagud1 mate
I had both a 22 yz 125 and 19 rmz 250 and the rmz was an awesome bike, but I could not get over how stiff the suspension was. I thought the motor was not bad at all and really enjoyed it on a smooth track. The yz 125 suspension is stiff as well, but its much more manageable than the rmz.
A simple revalve+respring would fix that.
Simply change the springs on the RMZ, it's cheap and simple to do.
Forgot to mention that the YZ is easier to kick-start if you lay it over !
Also if you ever realize he always picks KTM over Yamaha. And recently Ktm brands have a recall on pistons breaking and ecu’s. Also at the track the ktm doesn’t even out pull a yz. Plus there were ktm owners at the track that rode another guys new yz125 and they all said it was better power than the ktm and handled better and of course better suspension! That was shocking to hear from die hard ktm guys.. plus the fact this magazine guy never tells which bike is far more reliable! Yamaha! Others have..
If you can let me know what dealers are selling ‘23 YZ125s for at or around $5K let me know I’ll buy all of them lol
I was about to comment the same thing 😂
Was wondering why the heck are these being compared.then I remembered price points.good video
Great idea for a comparison and great video. You should follow it up with an average rider modded out version, so pipe and silencers on both, forks fixed on the Zuk.
id take either. I love both of em :D
Nothing is Cooler then a 2 Stroke by far ❤🔥💯❗💥🆘❤🔥
2 stroke sounds like a chainsaw 😂
Msrp on the yz is $6,999 I haven’t seen a single one 5k not even used
Totally agree. You are not buying either of these for 5k. Dealers advertising 5k have 2k + in fees you pay.
Agree 100%. I see 2017/2018 YZ 125;s going for $5k. Best price I found for the new version of the RMZ was $6300 otd before the Covid and Brandon inflation took effect.
Nothing can bet a yz125 like the idea of the last place bikes going head to head sick vid
That opening music! I was on hold for over an hour at work listening to that flute over and over. Why, just why?
Nice video!! Another evaluation criteria I'd like to see is "how good of a play bike is it for a vet dude". I have my main bike (350) but really want a 125 for a play bike. Haven't ridden a 125 in 20 years, I may be in for a rude awakening after that 350 life. Anyways, love your content!!!
That’s what I’m here for. Got a good line on an rmz and I’m not sure if I want a 125 or 250f to compliment my 22 crf450
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Old RMX250 for old guys, love 2 strokes, love CR 250
3:20 price point at $5,000 shut up and take my money. I'm not seeing that price anywhere in the midwest.
they selling 22 450s for 5-6k in california and florida
@@aauht I can confirm this from California. Just gotta be patient because not alot of ppl are spending big money on bikes so Suzuki's sit in the showroom.
@@jpesicka492 Yea, im not sure what ur usual fees are on bikes in cali but i saw on insta someone called temecula about a 5k RMZ and they told him it was over 8k OTD in fees so its still alot lol but if they add 3k to everything then its a good deal i guess
What oil and ratio are you running on the YZ125? I’m using Honda HP2 at 32:1 and appears much more smokey compared to what’s coming out the exhaust on your guys bike.
Yz 125 all the way, I see that everyday at any track, Guys struggling trying to ride a 450 while every kid on 85cc passing them like nothing, Can you imagine a RMZ 250 🤦🏻♂️ Usable power is the key.
Sooo many guys on 450s that dont need them. Too slow, too fat, thinking they need 60 horsepower bikes. 250 four strokes have PLENTY of power. Youre 💯
@@brettfrimmer6567 100% agree, usabla power is the key 💪🏻
**laughs in CR500**
@@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443 Did you know about Steve Lamson winning Motocross Desnation on a 125cc between fastest riders of the world on 500cc?
If I could get one for 5 grand I’d have one lol they are above retail out here since no one rides
You can’t even get a ttr110 below retail
It might change but Suzuki definitely gets good deals. Temecula Motorsports has sold 450's for 5k and 250's for 6k even a few months ago.
@@jpesicka492 ya I follow them on ig. Hopefully more dealerships will give deals again. I just want a freakin 110 again lol those shouldn’t have a $600 upcharge
You said you can get either for about two grand where is that at ?
I think it will depend on your style. If you a slower rider I bet they would be more comfortable on a 4 stroke.
this is a hilarious comparison
Turning it up! Great video mxa I love you guys for pushing a video on these two bikes
Which one would you recommend to a 40 year old entry level rider, 6’0“ tall and 200 pounds? YZ 125 or RMZ 250? Just riding as a weekend warrior and wanna have some fun on track. No racing, no series
@PST Motorsport ... I've never owned a 4-stroke before, but I've had 3 YZ125's over the years & 2 YZ250 2-strokes... easy to work, parts are cheap & plentiful, bike is light & suspension is top notch, really can't go wrong with one... & they are fast bikes... you can also get a 144cc big bore kit & increase the engine displacement... the YZ125 would be my choice
Suzuki RMZ250 all the way . Far less maintenance 4ya ..just oil /filter changes every 10hrs or less.
At 6' and 200, go with a 2-stroke.
Back when I raced a 14 rmz I would get beat by this 17 era ktm 150 no matter what. The kid was also 50 pounds lighter. Each 7 pounds is supposedly a horsepower. And the bikes from factory are pretty much the same hp numbers.
Home track goals right here.
Great comparison.! Keep up the great work!
Where will you find one of either for less than 7K????
Paid $8500 for my 2025 YZ125 out the door.
Let’s go, sick 1v1!
Yz ❤
i got a 22 kx450 brand new otd for 7499. they aren't that affordable
So im a 6'0 foot dude thats a hefty 250ibs😅 what would be a good starter bike for me ? Last time i rode a bike was a Yamaha 90cc when i was like 9 and im 30 now.
So, first it’s MOTO cross action Josh not motor cross action. It actually says it on your jersey. Second, apparently CA has different prices as no where in the rest of the US are new YZ125s or RMZ250s 5k. NOWHERE!
Bravo fellas 👏👏👊✌️ Enjoyed this 😉
RMZ best😍
£85 for forks springs and I'll take the zook thanks
who would pick a suzuki over yamaha? 🫣
Nobody with a functioning brain.
Me.. for reliability!!
Someone who doesn’t mind doing the suspension probably. But then choosing RMZ over other 4-strokes is really hard.
At 13 years old i bought someones old practice 97 yz125 Had a race motor pro circuit suspension excel wheels.. I couldnt even touch the ground and always had quads before that.. However a friend needed money for 1000 i owned it and learned quick enough yz125 is a great bike for amateurs and pros
Awesome comparison boy's!
should do a part 2 where you tally up the service costs after 40 hours on each machine
YZ will win in a landslide .
@@herbcanter2114 40 hours on a new RMZ at amateur level is only fuelling up and changing oil. Not sure what’s there for a 125 2-stroke to win, since it would require the top end to be done twice in the same time span.
@@cheetah694 not so, we had new yz125 and rode it hard and fast, took top end apart at 100 hours and piston still had its machining marks and unable to measure any ring wear with electronic calipers.
@@gilesgreenaway5655 typo ?
You mean 10 ours?
@@gertscheper9653no. 100 hours as stated.
Super, Bro ❤️🇯🇵👍
My local Kawasaki dealer is selling brand new 2023 KX250’s for $6999.00
Great idea for video 👍🤓👍
Good test
Never rode my KX 450 or my KX 500 as fast as my little KX 125.
Idk about 5 for a 2 smoke maby a 4 stroke after you beat it up
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Sick!
It's official now I've seen them on three different videos Boston Terriers the Official Dog of Motocross (I have five that go with me to races they like the smell of two stroke)
Yamaha 125 …..!
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$7,899 Base MSRP RMZ250 2023.
+ $440.00 Dest. Charge
+ $150.00 Freight Surcharge†
Not $5,000 lol... You were off by like $3,000 XD
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Nice comparison of two ancient bikes.
Also the rules of mx racing engine capacity is a joke. They stopped racing 500 2stroke back in the day because of dangers from power of bikes and bad accidents and deaths occurred to often Around the world. So 500 was banned and stopped been produced and sold. 4stroke builders said they have to be 1.6 times size of 2bangas to be competitive. 1 race yamaha yzf400 won race by heaps. If they want to race they should be same size capacity. It's ridiculous. Big companies just want to rip us off and half people can't afford these day's. 4strokes should just be in dakar
250 2-strokes are more expensive than the RMZ 250. KTM 2-strokes are more expensive than Japanese 4-strokes. So who wants to rip you off?
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yz 125 all day,not a four stroke shit
You got clapped by a 4 stroke didnt you, show me on this doll where the 450 molested you
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And you hitting lines is impossible out there
What is this nonsense? it is 2023.... lets compare a 250 with a 250
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