This entire shootout is a mistake! They give the win to the bike made in China, the same bike that failed to break into the top two of the other shootouts.
@@CharlesDeLorenzo KTM’s aren’t made in china smooth brain, they are all built in house in Austria and will continue to be for years to come, don’t try and be clever when you haven’t got a single clue about said subject.
I would say that since it is available from dealer and is completely stock it could be tested against the others. It’s kind of like KTM has 3 levels with the 3 different branding options. I guess it’s a tricky concept but in my opinion they should test all bikes available be it edition or not as they all can be bought. Disclaimer, my opinion is worth exactly what I get paid to give it. 😂
@@fpandjic16 I could say that exact same thing about all the other main shootout videos that have ran Yamaha adverts in every video leading up to the shootout itself 🤦♂️
@@JacobMX222 Yeah, but if you look throughout the years, other shoutout channels have different winners, while MXA sticks to KTM group bikes every single shoutout in the last I don't know how many years, except for one single year where they had Japanese bike as a winner
I am usually pretty defensive of the channels when people say a shootout seems a bit sus…but this is absolutely insane 🤦🏼♂️😂 You have never had anything good to say about TM, you said the Fantic 125 was worse than the Yam 125 (no Fantic USA importer to upset), the Triumph SEVENTH… against what pretty much every other media outlet is saying. You always lean toward brands with a big US presence… and to Austrian bikes in particular. Stock GasGas better than the YZ?! 🤨
The Triumph is an awesome bike! But the mapping issue really hindered its result. They have a new map coming out in a few weeks that hopefully will fix it. The U.S. TM importer Ralf was awesome, but he’s back in Europe now and we don’t get those bikes anymore. Would love to ride a new one if someone started bringing them to the U.S. again and made it available to us
I have to agree ridden all but the Suzuki I had Yam first Triumph second and going on others reviews I have seen around alot seem to agree no idea what MAM has been smoking to put KTM first
Are you serious? atleast they dont play Yamaha adverts on all their videos and still go on to make shootout videos 😂😂😂 Dirtrider magazine, Swapmoto and Vital MX all use scummy tactics to deceive the public, none of the japanese bikes even come close to being as race ready as the big daddy KTM, just say you cant afford one bro 🫵😭
@@aduro5046 KTM make the best bikes year in and year out, none of the japanese bikes even come close, its an insult to KTM to even mention japanese bikes in the same sentence
This is the best 250 shootout review that I’ve seen yet. Like how you put the specs of the bike and also explain the different problems that the bikes have. Great job keep up the good work I will definitely be watching you guys next year on the shootouts.
beta doesnt make a mx 250 yet and i believe they were unable to get a 450 in time for their 450 shoot out but i image they will be included in the future
Kind of disappointed that you gave ktm 1,2 & 3. Ktm tries to market the bikes as different, but this highlights there similarity. For most riders, dealing with an air fork that requires maintenance throughout the day is a major negative, especially when traditional spring forks are so dialed. Even the spoke loosening issue is a problem Japanese manufacturers have seemingly solved. Id prefer to sacrifice 1 or 2 hp for easier maintenance. Its between The crf250 and the yz250f for me personally.
So MXA suggests that we should pay more money to buy gas gas instead of yamaha or Honda and get a bike with no electronics whatsoever, the worst suspension of the class, and problematic spokes, hub, rims etc. Sorry, Yamaha and Honda and Kawasaki, any day of the week. This magazine is becoming annoyingly biased.
On the track Yamaha and Honda may not be the best, but living with the Honda and Yam is probably much better. I think there the best shootout channel but there the only ones that don’t like the new Yamahas.
@@BANDIT_96do you know how to read English? 😂 When did I say there slow on a track, I said there not the best. Jett Lawrence being the fastest rider in the world while being on a Honda has nothing to do with the bike, he could go to any brand and still dominate you make no sense. The 2025 CRF450 is also the slowest 450 out of the big 7.
@@jeffdacey4673 KYB is literally the best suspension you can get and Yamaha has been using it since 06. Air forks on KTM’s are good but not as good as KYB, and you have to pump them up throughout temperature and elevation changes, that is not better, it saves 3 lbs, not worth it at all.
Apparently kawi won on the dyno figures last year (I don’t believe that for a second) but also the ktm / husky engines haven’t changed and inch since 23 they have been more powerful the whole time… also I rode the triumph at two different test days early this year, the first one I also experienced bogging, revving or on the track at the initial crack, the second time they sorted that right out and my gosh what a bike it’s miles ahead of the kawi and Honda I’ll even say gas gas too with it’s compromised brakes and clutch. I also won’t lie to me it made the yam feel sluggish it has the top end to match the ktm, it’s got the best power to weight and turns like a bmx with the stock 100 year tyre
as a triumph owner i wouldnt trade my bike for any other bike on the market its mostly preference but ive never ridden a bike that rides as well as my tf250 and im excited for the 450 early next year
Honestly no matter the shootouts my next bike will probably be a Truimph 250 or 450. The new kid on the block is killing it. Unless Suzuki drops a new bike, then that might be an instant buy. They dropped a new DRZ this year outta nowhere so one can hope.
Hey Josh, do you prefer a stock Husqvarna/Ktm or a works edition Honda crf250r, which is basically the same price??? Austrian bikes are really good, but too expensive for bikes with problematic spokes,hubs, rims, and mediocre suspension. After all, with $2000 to spend on the stock Honda or Yamaha, anybody can build the bikes to make more than 45 horsepower with way better suspension
That’s why I think Yamaha is the best, why have a KTM 250F when you can have a YZ450, why have a KTM125 when you can have a YZ250 2 stroke. KTM 150’s are cool but the efi 2 strokes have problems. Why have a KTM 85LW when you can spend 500 bucks more for a YZ125
@andreasstefanou5898 I’ll buy the CRF250RWE! Personally, with the exception of the Husky, l can’t stand them euro bikes. But, we all have our own opinion…🤙🏻🇺🇸
@NathanRoberts-d4o exactly ..... For me, cost, suspension and reliability are the most important aspects because this is an expensive sport anyway. If money was not an option, we all would have factory bikes with factory suspension .
@@andreasstefanou5898absolutely, no one goes to the dealer to look for cc they go and look for a price tag. Which if you go Yamaha you can get more power in a cheaper package
So far there's only one factory edition 250 out! We tested it and it's on our channel, but probably no shootout for those anytime soon. We got lots of other tests in the works though
One thing for sure it has the best kick start lever. The only 'best' category Suzuki may win is having best price (but not necessarily being best value)
@@jeffmarshall_99 Myself a 2-stroke guy but if I was in the market for a new 250F would certainly consider the RMZ but it's still relatively high MSRP plus expected mods to suspension does not make it a good value.
Maybe that wasn't the best way to word it, but the engine is the same between KTM/Husky/GasGas, so technically, it's the only engine making 45hp, only it comes on three bikes
@@michaeltrower6792 Why are you judging production bikes by pro race results? Pro results are 0% relevant to the average consumers purchase, most are just too dumb to realize it.
@JacobMX222 you're on some good shit only reason ktm won anything in the US is because all of the top riders were out with injuries ktm is a garbage company that's why they are in big financial trouble 🤣😂🤣😂
I trust MXA’s shootouts, however I wonder what the results would be if they did these shootouts on a tighter East coast/Northeast loamy type track. Would the tourquey Yamaha or the nimble lightweight feeling Honda fair better, instead of the high speed Glen Helen track?
LOL..... The GAS GAS over the Honda and Yamaha? Is it just me or does it seem suspect that the GG,Husq and KTM beat everything else? Go to any non pro race wknd and that won't be the case.
This doesn’t make sense, Triumph changed the the shift indents to sort out the notchy shifting from last year and also revised the mapping this year to sort out the bogging! 🤷🏼♂️
They revised the shift detents on the 450 only and the mapping is new, but it wasn’t better. They have another new map coming in a couple weeks and they said that would fix our issues. Looking forward to trying it and will definitely report back how it works!
The orange helmet had to show through when talking about the triumph I see. It’s not like a KTM at all feels more Yamaha than anything else and everyone but MXA agrees with that. I worked for a MXA competitor when Suzuki offered us money for favorable reviews so I know what Jody made back than curious what PMG pays him now.
I hate seeing the ktm brands winning the top three…. In MXAs defense…. All they care about in this shootout is power. WPs air fork is pretty good from what I hear. I’m a Yamaha and Honda guy over here all the way. I like the KYB on the Yamahas. That reason alone is why I went blue currently.
The last 2 YZ250Fs we've had (24s) have blown up with less than 15 hours. One valve seat and one dropped valve that demolished the entire engine. Last 23 broke a rod at 24 hours. Last 2 KTMs (23s) were sold at 30 hours still running well.
MXA Desculpa mais não vou passar pano mais pra vcs o bike teste de vcs deveriam se chamar bike Austríaco !!! Basta ver as corridas de j Mosman ao longo do ano na sua maioria em uma Austríaca quase sempre KTM... Talvez gosto preferência, patrocínio dinheiro, desde quando comecei a acompanhar os bike teste a cerca de 7 anos atrás todos os anos sempre um Austríaco em primeiro lugar exceto 24 que foi Yamara como pode a gás gás não ter nada de no nem algumas opções e ficar em terceiro 🥉... Atualização foi o preço dela que subiu 😡😡😡 puta merda onde vamos pra! Triunfo sai de fabrica mais cara do que as japonesas!! A Suzuki a mais bela na minha opinião ficou mais cara das japonesas 😔😔 eu estou começando a achar que a própria fábrica Suzuki está se sabotando se destruindo!!! Não atualizou na e deixou seu produto mais caro com preço menos competitivo ou seja agora que as vendas não decolam ao e m vez de aproveitar o garoto propaganda KR pra vende as RMZ ... Já perderem um ícone mundial e god propaganda RC só merda atrás de merda!!! Revoltante
Are you getting paid by KTM Group...!? 0 info on riding in Honda and Kawasaki...tons of info on the austrians. Seems you are not imparcial anymore. Disapointing
So kx has a weaker engine compare to last year model you have to rev it but it is "still fast" and can and have good power coming out of corner . The chassis is way better but bind up and deflect off a lot of the bump because to the engine. What is this gibberish ??
DO NOT let MXA shootouts cloud your judgement on buying a bike, if you listen to these dumb "shootouts" you will be spending top dollar for no reason 😂 these bozos put the honda 5th even tho one of the fastest riders in history is on a honda 😂 they put the suzuki last every single year even tho they are seriously good bikes, trust me people DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS!!!!
About the Triumph 250, do you guys think it might be relate to the model you received? I have seen some reviews during 2024 and they said that shifting was one of its strenghs. Also, I think the edit on this video was great
No I test rode one and it def had shifting issues not deal breaking but definitely there, the nuts and bolts came loose all over causing electrical issues, forks are super stiff and I’m 190lbs, shock and rear end in general feels like it’s to high and skips over breaking bumps causing it to slide out a lot when on the gas, other than that bike has incredible motor that seemingly never falls off on the top end which is great for racing.
the shifter definitely takes some getting used to but after 5-10 hours on the bike it becomes a non issue everything else is practically flawless out of the box with the addition of the tuner
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Caught a mistake! The Suzuki RM-Z250 retails for $8199 (not $9199)
Who cares?
@@LeeTillburyeveryone watching who is debating what new bike to buy lmao. I hope one day your able to stop being miserable.
Thanks MxA
This entire shootout is a mistake! They give the win to the bike made in China, the same bike that failed to break into the top two of the other shootouts.
@@CharlesDeLorenzo KTM’s aren’t made in china smooth brain, they are all built in house in Austria and will continue to be for years to come, don’t try and be clever when you haven’t got a single clue about said subject.
@@JacobMX222 he’s just saying that to talk shit about the Austrian bikes
The connor intro was a nice touch lmao 😂
Dude, that suzuki looks so damn good.
It’s a beauty! Probably, even the best looking one of all…👍🏻
PIERE MOBILITY ACTION MAGAZINE 😂
They don’t even try to hide it 😂
No kidding
The only thing that matters for most Americans ktm buyers is adding more White Power stickers for their bikes.
Exactly what I think
Yea exactly! I called it a month ago when the other non biased 250 shootouts came out! MXA has become a joke!
please do the 125 2025 shootout
Thanks Moto cross action mag for 250 shoot out👍🇬🇧
You’re missing a bike, CRF-we. Since you test 3 KTM’s only fair to run the two different Honda’s in the shootout.
I don’t think anyone is going to do that. It would be unfair and an easy decision.
Did you see any factory editions in the shootout? No, you didn't.
I would say that since it is available from dealer and is completely stock it could be tested against the others. It’s kind of like KTM has 3 levels with the 3 different branding options. I guess it’s a tricky concept but in my opinion they should test all bikes available be it edition or not as they all can be bought. Disclaimer, my opinion is worth exactly what I get paid to give it. 😂
@@jdavishornet yes exactly
Level 1: ass
Level 2: mid
Level 3: mid
Agreed.
I need this right now! Moving up to a 250 in a month or so, and was super torn, MXA came in clutch
watch other shoot outs as well and try to ride some bikes before making a purchase because a lot of it is preference at this point
@@swisssan For sure, I value people ive met at the tracks opinions a lot as well because they actually live with them at a normal skill level
KT-MXA shootout.
Japanese bikes are trash, KTM is the best bike off the showroom floor, there is no debate to be had.
🇯🇵 🗑️😂
Every other review puts Yamaha 1st and they still say the power is the best.
Thats because ever other review is partnered with Yamaha, specifically Swapmoto Vital and dirtrider, open your eyes bro 🤦♂️
@@JacobMX222 they're all paid off at KTM dude.
@@JacobMX222 please... KTM has been MXA's winner for so many times it's becoming funny..
@@fpandjic16 I could say that exact same thing about all the other main shootout videos that have ran Yamaha adverts in every video leading up to the shootout itself 🤦♂️
@@JacobMX222 Yeah, but if you look throughout the years, other shoutout channels have different winners, while MXA sticks to KTM group bikes every single shoutout in the last I don't know how many years, except for one single year where they had Japanese bike as a winner
Really should change the name guys….
KTM action magazine
Aww, poor Yami boy is bitter.
@@OtisFlint KTM’s are still ass
Through most of the '80s and mid-90s it was Honda action. Then it became Yamaha action. Now it's KTM action.
@ yes, but I would still take a Yamaha.
Which one of the 3 KTM's won? Before I watch.
The green one
I am usually pretty defensive of the channels when people say a shootout seems a bit sus…but this is absolutely insane 🤦🏼♂️😂
You have never had anything good to say about TM, you said the Fantic 125 was worse than the Yam 125 (no Fantic USA importer to upset), the Triumph SEVENTH… against what pretty much every other media outlet is saying. You always lean toward brands with a big US presence… and to Austrian bikes in particular. Stock GasGas better than the YZ?! 🤨
The Triumph is an awesome bike! But the mapping issue really hindered its result. They have a new map coming out in a few weeks that hopefully will fix it. The U.S. TM importer Ralf was awesome, but he’s back in Europe now and we don’t get those bikes anymore. Would love to ride a new one if someone started bringing them to the U.S. again and made it available to us
Such a good edit 🤌 each video is better and better. Impressed how yall do this 🤟😝
appreciate it! Our guy Trevor never lets off the gas. He's always improving his film and edit skills!
Dude, this must be a joke right? How much KTM did pay for this? It is very obvious. I rode all of them and that does not make sense at all
Which one was your favorite?
I have to agree ridden all but the Suzuki I had Yam first Triumph second and going on others reviews I have seen around alot seem to agree no idea what MAM has been smoking to put KTM first
Are you serious? atleast they dont play Yamaha adverts on all their videos and still go on to make shootout videos 😂😂😂 Dirtrider magazine, Swapmoto and Vital MX all use scummy tactics to deceive the public, none of the japanese bikes even come close to being as race ready as the big daddy KTM, just say you cant afford one bro 🫵😭
Lol awe you poor thing :(
I don't believe you guys posting that you road every motorcycle.
ranked exactly how pierer mobility group would like it to be
Yep. It’s nice to be rewarded for making the best bikes.
@@brettfrimmer6567facts
@@aduro5046 KTM make the best bikes year in and year out, none of the japanese bikes even come close, its an insult to KTM to even mention japanese bikes in the same sentence
@@JacobMX222ok Champ 😂
I have come to the comments first ..did they add teeth to any sprockets 😂😂😂
This is the best 250 shootout review that I’ve seen yet. Like how you put the specs of the bike and also explain the different problems that the bikes have. Great job keep up the good work I will definitely be watching you guys next year on the shootouts.
MXA’s shootouts are the only ones I don’t fall asleep while watching, the best channel by far, most entertaining and informative
100 ! agree !
I don’t care good ktms are I’ll never go with air forks again
Do you ever test Beta bikes?
beta doesnt make a mx 250 yet and i believe they were unable to get a 450 in time for their 450 shoot out but i image they will be included in the future
Waste of time unless you're riding hard enduro
Kind of disappointed that you gave ktm 1,2 & 3. Ktm tries to market the bikes as different, but this highlights there similarity.
For most riders, dealing with an air fork that requires maintenance throughout the day is a major negative, especially when traditional spring forks are so dialed. Even the spoke loosening issue is a problem Japanese manufacturers have seemingly solved. Id prefer to sacrifice 1 or 2 hp for easier maintenance.
Its between The crf250 and the yz250f for me personally.
KTM’s seem to vibrate more also
Most people would agree with you. Those that don’t are just Ktm blow hards.
Suzuki is still a fantastic bike with a really good price!!! But please suzuki update to show us how realy you can made bike!!!
Suzuki & Honda FTW !
Yessir! Exactly my two picks…💪🏻👍🏻
So MXA suggests that we should pay more money to buy gas gas instead of yamaha or Honda and get a bike with no electronics whatsoever, the worst suspension of the class, and problematic spokes, hub, rims etc.
Sorry, Yamaha and Honda and Kawasaki, any day of the week.
This magazine is becoming annoyingly biased.
On the track Yamaha and Honda may not be the best, but living with the Honda and Yam is probably much better. I think there the best shootout channel but there the only ones that don’t like the new Yamahas.
Bro the fastest guy on the planet on a dirk bike is on a honda what are you talking 😂dude said not fast on a track @@NathanRoberts-d4o
@@BANDIT_96do you know how to read English? 😂 When did I say there slow on a track, I said there not the best. Jett Lawrence being the fastest rider in the world while being on a Honda has nothing to do with the bike, he could go to any brand and still dominate you make no sense. The 2025 CRF450 is also the slowest 450 out of the big 7.
First of all the suspension it the same as the ktm there genius. Just has different clicker adjustments. God I love idiots
@@jeffdacey4673 KYB is literally the best suspension you can get and Yamaha has been using it since 06. Air forks on KTM’s are good but not as good as KYB, and you have to pump them up throughout temperature and elevation changes, that is not better, it saves 3 lbs, not worth it at all.
Apparently kawi won on the dyno figures last year (I don’t believe that for a second) but also the ktm / husky engines haven’t changed and inch since 23 they have been more powerful the whole time… also I rode the triumph at two different test days early this year, the first one I also experienced bogging, revving or on the track at the initial crack, the second time they sorted that right out and my gosh what a bike it’s miles ahead of the kawi and Honda I’ll even say gas gas too with it’s compromised brakes and clutch. I also won’t lie to me it made the yam feel sluggish it has the top end to match the ktm, it’s got the best power to weight and turns like a bmx with the stock 100 year tyre
Confirmed. I tested a Triumph and it is miles ahead of my own CRF 250R 2023. This shootout is a joke.
as a triumph owner i wouldnt trade my bike for any other bike on the market its mostly preference but ive never ridden a bike that rides as well as my tf250 and im excited for the 450 early next year
Honestly no matter the shootouts my next bike will probably be a Truimph 250 or 450. The new kid on the block is killing it.
Unless Suzuki drops a new bike, then that might be an instant buy. They dropped a new DRZ this year outta nowhere so one can hope.
Waiting for this one!
Love em all
Chassis binding up on the RMZ cause your riding it on the limiter sounds like BS to me.
Universal Austrian Motorcycle magazine
Proudly brought to you by Austria. 😂
Just like those deceiving tactics that you fall for with Swapmoto Vital & Dirtrider, clueless little boy 🤣🤣
Hey Josh, do you prefer a stock Husqvarna/Ktm or a works edition Honda crf250r, which is basically the same price???
Austrian bikes are really good, but too expensive for bikes with problematic spokes,hubs, rims, and mediocre suspension. After all, with $2000 to spend on the stock Honda or Yamaha, anybody can build the bikes to make more than 45 horsepower with way better suspension
That’s why I think Yamaha is the best, why have a KTM 250F when you can have a YZ450, why have a KTM125 when you can have a YZ250 2 stroke. KTM 150’s are cool but the efi 2 strokes have problems. Why have a KTM 85LW when you can spend 500 bucks more for a YZ125
@andreasstefanou5898 I’ll buy the CRF250RWE! Personally, with the exception of the Husky, l can’t stand them euro bikes. But, we all have our own opinion…🤙🏻🇺🇸
@NathanRoberts-d4o exactly .....
For me, cost, suspension and reliability are the most important aspects because this is an expensive sport anyway.
If money was not an option, we all would have factory bikes with factory suspension .
@@andreasstefanou5898absolutely, no one goes to the dealer to look for cc they go and look for a price tag. Which if you go Yamaha you can get more power in a cheaper package
@@NathanRoberts-d4o Shopping across different displacements...🤦♂
Will we be getting a factory edition shoot out for the 250s?
So far there's only one factory edition 250 out! We tested it and it's on our channel, but probably no shootout for those anytime soon. We got lots of other tests in the works though
@motocrossaadd $2000 each to the others
I would have voted Suzuki best bike 👍🇬🇧
🤙🏻🇺🇸
I vote Suzuki. Best bike
FATALITY, other seven bikes……….WIN😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
One thing for sure it has the best kick start lever.
The only 'best' category Suzuki may win is having best price (but not necessarily being best value)
@ I bet 95% of the viewers of this video can’t ride a RMZ250 to its true potential(including myself) and would benefit from the handling
@@jeffmarshall_99 Myself a 2-stroke guy but if I was in the market for a new 250F would certainly consider the RMZ but it's still relatively high MSRP plus expected mods to suspension does not make it a good value.
I absolutely love my 22, swapped out the springs DONE. Turns so good makes you wanna slap your mom LOL!
9:19?? You just said the GasGas produced 45 and the Husky did 45, how is the KTM the only bike making 45hp?
Maybe that wasn't the best way to word it, but the engine is the same between KTM/Husky/GasGas, so technically, it's the only engine making 45hp, only it comes on three bikes
@@motocrossactiongotcha
There is a Spanish 2024 250F Shootout where they have the Triumph, TM, Fantic + Other offbrands, as well as these typical brands, and the Husky won...
Link?
The Husky is a great bike. They're all good in their own ways when you break it down, but they're still not all equal
Italian
Suzuki weighing the heaviest with a kickstarter. Lmao
Honda
Kawasaki
Yamaha
Triumph
Ktm
Husqvarna
Gas gas
Suzuki
Honda Kawasaki and Yamaha ahead of KTM 😂😂😂 All 3 of them are absolute trash, they will never be as good as KTM 🫵😂
@JacobMX222 that trash kicked Ktm's ass this year and I sure next year will be the same 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@michaeltrower6792 How slow are you, KTM won 6 out of 8 Championships this year in AMA & MXGP 😂😂
@@michaeltrower6792 Why are you judging production bikes by pro race results? Pro results are 0% relevant to the average consumers purchase, most are just too dumb to realize it.
@JacobMX222 you're on some good shit only reason ktm won anything in the US is because all of the top riders were out with injuries ktm is a garbage company that's why they are in big financial trouble 🤣😂🤣😂
FINALLYYYY!!!!
I would like to see a comparison between advertising dollars from manufactures to MXA and the rankings. Transparency to eliminate the bias.
KTM pays off Motocross Action Magazine once again! Check out the other shootouts for non biased reviews!
Yami literally sponsors 3 of the other mags doing shootouts.
I loved seeing Amari out there dude he ripped
🐝🏁 Video 👍 👌
I trust MXA’s shootouts, however I wonder what the results would be if they did these shootouts on a tighter East coast/Northeast loamy type track. Would the tourquey Yamaha or the nimble lightweight feeling Honda fair better, instead of the high speed Glen Helen track?
To save you time: 1) Yamaha 2) KTM 3) Suzuki 4) Triumph 5) Honda 6) Kawi
I really love the ktm, but the rmz is getting a new position on my heart...
Let me guess KTM ?
hey mxa. why give that pro circuit over 2hp to the rmz 450 and nearly nothing to the 250 ?.
Maybe KTM should drop some of the channels like they do with their other bikes
LETS GOOOO!!
Agree 100%
LOL..... The GAS GAS over the Honda and Yamaha? Is it just me or does it seem suspect that the GG,Husq and KTM beat everything else? Go to any non pro race wknd and that won't be the case.
I took 2nd on my GG at my local race :)
Eu acho que é o gosto pela preferência ou é o patrocínio que coisa j Mosman corre quase sempre em Austríaco na maioria KTM meu suspeito não??
Here in europe the austrian bikes dominate local races.
Won 25b and 35b on my Ktm this season while I watched everyone of my friends Yamahas break down before 50 hours
Lmao yamahas ride and look terrible, and sound even worse .this ain't deegans channel bro
250 factory, edition shootout place 🙏
Finally! Been waiting for this
Suzuki all day long
Are you sure about that Suzuki MSRP, seems high
You listed the Suzuki MSRP wrong
This doesn’t make sense, Triumph changed the the shift indents to sort out the notchy shifting from last year and also revised the mapping this year to sort out the bogging! 🤷🏼♂️
They revised the shift detents on the 450 only and the mapping is new, but it wasn’t better. They have another new map coming in a couple weeks and they said that would fix our issues. Looking forward to trying it and will definitely report back how it works!
@ Ok thanks Josh , that explains it.
The orange helmet had to show through when talking about the triumph I see. It’s not like a KTM at all feels more Yamaha than anything else and everyone but MXA agrees with that. I worked for a MXA competitor when Suzuki offered us money for favorable reviews so I know what Jody made back than curious what PMG pays him now.
Yamaha always paying off motocross action
Best dirtbike channel right here!
love watching this knowing I will not be able to afford any of these
I hate seeing the ktm brands winning the top three…. In MXAs defense…. All they care about in this shootout is power. WPs air fork is pretty good from what I hear. I’m a Yamaha and Honda guy over here all the way. I like the KYB on the Yamahas. That reason alone is why I went blue currently.
💪🏻🏁🎥💯
Where´s the TM´s Bikes?
There's not enough sold in America to warrant them testing them. Infact I'm not sure there's a dealer in the US at all now
KDM for the win! Best bikes ever made once they throw the 6500 kit stock in them they will be unbeatable for all time.
How does ktm places 1st 2nd and 3rd?
Du chrono japonais, reste du chrono japonais, mes la Honda reste la meilleure moto du monde :)**
The KTM is runding a China cylinder from kymco is gonna break about 30 houres. No hate on it but just so You know ❤
160 Hours on a kymco cylinder, atleast know what you’re talking about 🤣🤣
The last 2 YZ250Fs we've had (24s) have blown up with less than 15 hours. One valve seat and one dropped valve that demolished the entire engine. Last 23 broke a rod at 24 hours. Last 2 KTMs (23s) were sold at 30 hours still running well.
@@OtisFlint My buddy bought a 2023 YZ250F and it blew a hole through the bottom of the motor at 7.5 hours on the meter
So the rm is down on peak hp but is right there with torque.that is huge even playing feild.rather have torque than peak imo
Thought the 25 triumph dropped in price?
it dropped from the original $10400 from last year to $10000 and then most likely during or after the production of this video it dropped another $500
@ ya its now 9,495
Wait so you’re telling me the best bike is one of the cheapest? 😂 am I missing something here?
3 if the bikes are the same. Just different colored plastics.
Before I read these comments and watch this vid I bet people are bashing ktm regardless of where it finishes…? Am I right?
CR WE?
MXA Desculpa mais não vou passar pano mais pra vcs o bike teste de vcs deveriam se chamar bike Austríaco !!! Basta ver as corridas de j Mosman ao longo do ano na sua maioria em uma Austríaca quase sempre KTM... Talvez gosto preferência, patrocínio dinheiro, desde quando comecei a acompanhar os bike teste a cerca de 7 anos atrás todos os anos sempre um Austríaco em primeiro lugar exceto 24 que foi Yamara como pode a gás gás não ter nada de no nem algumas opções e ficar em terceiro 🥉... Atualização foi o preço dela que subiu 😡😡😡 puta merda onde vamos pra! Triunfo sai de fabrica mais cara do que as japonesas!! A Suzuki a mais bela na minha opinião ficou mais cara das japonesas 😔😔 eu estou começando a achar que a própria fábrica Suzuki está se sabotando se destruindo!!! Não atualizou na e deixou seu produto mais caro com preço menos competitivo ou seja agora que as vendas não decolam ao e m vez de aproveitar o garoto propaganda KR pra vende as RMZ ... Já perderem um ícone mundial e god propaganda RC só merda atrás de merda!!! Revoltante
Are you getting paid by KTM Group...!? 0 info on riding in Honda and Kawasaki...tons of info on the austrians. Seems you are not imparcial anymore. Disapointing
Favoring the bombing gasgas brand? You should change the name to 2025 250 motocross "preference "😂
The triumph doesn't shift and it boggs and it beat the Suzuki 😂
It is missing a vet slow pro looking ride, it you are luck I am here if you need 😬😬
So kx has a weaker engine compare to last year model you have to rev it but it is "still fast" and can and have good power coming out of corner . The chassis is way better but bind up and deflect off a lot of the bump because to the engine. What is this gibberish ??
Who cares about the map switch. U dont switch why u ride
Kthuskassgas every year boys?!?! Tell me your bought and payed for without telling me your bought?!? What a joke! 🤢🤮🤣
He care about reability and parts cost
Cant believe I just wasted my time watching this...... I should have known you were gonna put the ktm brand on top lol.
haha ktm 1st place? damn the chineese knows how to build bikes apparently
DO NOT let MXA shootouts cloud your judgement on buying a bike, if you listen to these dumb "shootouts" you will be spending top dollar for no reason 😂 these bozos put the honda 5th even tho one of the fastest riders in history is on a honda 😂 they put the suzuki last every single year even tho they are seriously good bikes, trust me people DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS!!!!
About the Triumph 250, do you guys think it might be relate to the model you received? I have seen some reviews during 2024 and they said that shifting was one of its strenghs.
Also, I think the edit on this video was great
No I test rode one and it def had shifting issues not deal breaking but definitely there, the nuts and bolts came loose all over causing electrical issues, forks are super stiff and I’m 190lbs, shock and rear end in general feels like it’s to high and skips over breaking bumps causing it to slide out a lot when on the gas, other than that bike has incredible motor that seemingly never falls off on the top end which is great for racing.
@christophervillarreal8565 I see. Thanks for clarifying
the shifter definitely takes some getting used to but after 5-10 hours on the bike it becomes a non issue everything else is practically flawless out of the box with the addition of the tuner
I no longer listen to these bogus shootouts or buy the magazines. KTM this KTM that.
They are just better machines than the below average bikes that the Japanese make 😂
@JacobMX222 And how many championships have they won in America in the 250 class?
@@timothykamholz7222 They won 3 out of 4 championships this year in AMA, you can’t be serious.
A KTM 250 two stroke has over 50hp, about 8hp more than these slow trail bikes.
W KTM🔥
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Didn't Triumph have 47hp last year
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