Tarkov has loads of weapons so obviously we couldn't cover them all in one episode! So Tarkov fans let us know what weapons you want Jonathan to cover next, and if you're lucky we may do a follow up episode! (and yes I totally recorded this gameplay in offline mode because I DON'T HAVE THAT MANY ROUBLES TO WASTE META M4s AND AS VALS OKAY?!)
Jonathan is a fantastic guest to have on this show, he knows his weapons and he is a gamer which is awesome because he can admit, "yeah, that was done for the game because it's cool."
Exactly he's not condescending like other experts (or the TH-cam "experts"), doesn't belittle them for making mistakes he realises its a game and that they make changes for gameplay
It's pretty cool that he notices little details like the ammo in the mags, still blows me away that the bullet that is rendered is the ammo in the mag, you can even inspect a mag to see what kind of ammo is in the mag if you can recognize by sight instead of unloading a round to see what ammo is in it
@@TheDelta016 I think that's why he made the suggestion about the MP5 mag; if they've gone so far with the attention to detail already, then why not go all the way? As for the AK drum mag... well, that just looks absurd.
What I love about this guy is how not only is he a firearms expert, but he also seems to be videogame-literate enough to understand core gameplay concepts and game mechanics. That really makes the difference in entertainment value when compared to videos with the same premise. Subbed.
@@nguyen-vuluu3150 uqi 141, accused of blinding an opponent in armed combat before killing him with with two bullets (m995) into the left arm and one into the head, is hereby found guilty. An importent detail for the jury´s decision was the fact that the defendant was using more flashlights than bullets.
This guy is a golden nugget. A legit gun expert and gamer. Keep him reappearing on this channel. He gets to promote his museum and you get a likable guy on your channel
@@jetstreak2786 Yeah. For instance he looks at the magazine for the MP5 and incorrectly perceives it as being modeled as a single position feed magazine, when it's not, it's accurately depicted as two position feed, the devs didn't fuck up. There's also the notion of 12-Gauge being *better* than 20-Gauge, which is just a weird thing to say, akin to saying .44 Magnum is a better cartridge than 9mm Luger, just because it has more power for a given round.
I am pretty sure that mp5 is double feed double stack instead of single feed double stack like a sten gun. I mean u can refer back to forgotten weapon as a reference since i am no firearm expert nor scholars
1:45 The Makarov drum magazine does exist! it was meant to be used by Russian Police Forces (SWATs) as a force multiplier, it's capacity is 82 rounds, it was used by Ballistic Shieldsmen where they literally cannot reload, so this is very much real!
Well it's somewhat of a one off thing because it's made by welding a PPSH drum to a modified PM magazine (with all the quality and feed issues that might come along). It's real in the sense that exists in real life but it's a makeshift frankensteined thing not a manufactured product.
@@MustYouHaveAUsername hey, it was used in actual situation, in production or not, it's still real, it's not common because it's used in uncommon situations (large shootouts) main reason why it's not in production
Haha played this game? You are part of the lore. You have your own item in the game! I found it in the power station in interchange if anyone is looking for it.
@@miket130 thats where i found the first one ever looted in tarkov. ( the patch that dropped i said ahh fuck it and launched a player scav as soon as the servers came up.) -went interchange - spawned power, went in and two were on the multi level switch. Spent the rest of the morning trying to give them to deadly but he told me to keep them. They were in a place of honor in my stash until that wipe.
I have no where near the hours played you do, but I think part of why you, as I did as well, missed some of these intricate details is we just weren't entirely looking for them. Supreme Overlord Nikita was to busy making us question our sanity to notice
Guys, Jonathan, the guy in the video is sadly currently suffering from back issues. There's a chance he might be affected for life if it is not treated. The source of the issues is currently suspected to be from carrying this channel so fucking hard.
Its kind of embarrassing lol. I wonder if it would be more profitable for him to just do it on his own, get someone to edit it and then have the highest rated suggestion for a game be the next video but whatever
@@ghostreal Did you watch the part with the folding stock? Specifically where a foldable stock fazed through a RPK drum magazine? If you didn't, it's at 7 minutes in.
"This being a realistic game i suspect the weapon's characteristics to suffer when you got every accessory under the sun attached to your rifle" Yeah, about that...
Every game uses real recordings of guns. The Tarkov Difference is their acoustics, location-specific reverberation, sound decay, diffusion, and reflections are all affected by surroundings, caliber, muzzle attachments, etc.
@@collinweinheimer1056 Most games devs use clips other developers have created and licensed out to either public domain, or to make some extra money for the studio on the side.
A good majority, if all nowadays are real gun sounds. But you can also easily argue that they’re usually edited, and combined with other sounds to make it more “Video gamey” and “explodey”
My first year playing the game every different gun and caliber would give a legit dopamine rush. You'd shoot the gun and be so distracted by the epic popping gun sound, it's even more punchy then battlefield guns, by a mile. Now I am less distracted by the beauty and am just looking for heads to click on.
I like the fact this guy also understands video games and is well versed in them himself so he doesn't get hung up on the typical video game quirks, concessions and precepts.
This exact comment has been posted 500 times on these videos and it really makes gamers look like a bunch of sensitive loser bums. Like you'll break down if he seriously critiques something that isn't accurate even if it is a game.
@@AR15andGODOddly specific, but fine. People enjoy this fact because it's unusual, youtube had plenty of experts who were disinterested and shooting down any kind of disbelief because it's a videogame. Besides, it's a video about videogames - of course people will point this out. People are having fun, you won't stop it.
From that clip it seemed like it's the good ol' limbs eating up damage. Tarkov's body part HP pool system is a great idea but needs a lot of tuning. Hitting some naked scav 5 shots in the torso with a M4 very commonly leads to nothing because the HP system. Theoretically 3 shots to the chest would have killed that Scav, but what happens way too often in Tarkov is only 1 of those 5 shots hit the chest and 2 of those shots hit the stomach and 2 of those hit arms, thus making the target tank way too much damage even without armor. Albeit every time their limb gets hit they are also losing HP in other body parts, but imo Nikita has to make limbs not stop any ammo that has more than 10 penetration point and the projectile should still retain 80% of its original damage if it hits chest after penetrating limbs, or they need to make chest/stomach/head take way higher damage even if someone gets hit in the limbs or other body parts
@@gotanon8958 well he was criticizing the fact that the guy who was getting shot was not reacting to impacts. Lack of sense of power from ur shots. He even said that yes in some instances human body can take that many rounds before dying. So there is realism in that. This game have really poor animations. Thats the issue here
Shots 1-5: Clearly missed. Shots 6-9: Missed due to recoil (bad spray control). Shots 10-11: Very close, but recoil and inaccuracy make these reasonable misses.
There is a bug where you can still put a rubber/pso on top of an ak/svd when it's folded. They also need to adress that. Sometimes it's visually unfolded but takes inventory space of a folded gun. Even managed to glitch out my aks-74un. It's folded in game, takes less inventory space, has a dovetail cobra, rubber butstock and has the same recoil as unfolded gun.
I remember reading somewhere that the Tarkov devs actually recorded guns being fired, reloaded etc in abandoned warehouses. The fact that Johnathan immediately picked up on that without actually knowing is pretty profound imo.
I love how knowledgeable and aware he is of the gaming aspect of things, it genuinely surprised me (this being the first react video of his I watched). With how popular experts react to "name a thing" in gaming has become in the last couple years, it's refreshing to see an expert who actually understands the gaming side of things and includes that in their commentary!
I know. It must be hard for game designers to get something like this spot on, but I still had a little grimace on my face when the stock clipped through the drum, given how rare it is to see a game implement the AK47s folding stock action at all.
@@peterclarke7240 iirc stocks cannot be folded anymore if attachments would block it, ie sidemounted sights for sidefolder ak's, not too sure about the drummag and underfolder tho but they are working on it
@@peterclarke7240 well you cant fold sidefolding stocks when you put a rubber stockbumper (or whatever its called again,) on ak-74m’s also the svd doesnt fold when you put a sight mount on it too, so im certain this either is foxed already or will be fixed soon enough
Amazingly, It actually is a real thing. If you look up the 80rd Makarov PM drum? They do exist and TheFirearmBlog has an article about them. There's also a Reddit post on the ForgottenWeapons subreddit about these, and they're apparently designed for Russian police/SWAT team officers who are using ballistic/riot shields and a sidearm, which makes sense since trying to reload while carrying a ballistic shield can get you killed. In the 1990s and 2000s, Russia was dealing with an economic disaster from the collapse of the USSR which generated a huge increase in crime (both lone wolf criminals and organized gangs/groups like the Russian Mafia) and terrorism. However many police departments couldn't afford to arm all their officers with nice modern carbines/SMGs like the AKS-74u or 9A91 or a PP-19 Bizon. Even to this day, Makarov pistols are still very common to see in police use since they're compact, are battle proven, and they have trained with them for years and years, so there's that familiarity. There's also a machine pistol closely related to the Makarov called the APS Stechkin, it's a full auto machine pistol with a C96 Mauser Broomhandle style wooden stock that doubles as a holster, there's also a variant called the APB Stechkin that is equipped with a folding wire stock and a quick detach silencer. The APS uses a 20rd magazine that looks like an extended Makarov mag, I wonder if the drum could be used on the Stechkin, that would make a LOT more sense. While it's heavy, bulky, and likely is prone to feeding issues, as a niche/special purpose tool for close quarters combat and counter terrorism that's cheaper than equipping officers with brand new carbines/SMGs? I could see the premise behind it. I don't know if these were ever used, but apparently these were made in very small numbers for law enforcement officers carrying ballistic/riot shields. TLDR Yes they exist, produced in very small numbers for cops/SWAT/counter terrorism officers using ballistic shields and a sidearm in one hand.
The Big Makarov drum mag is a real thing. However it wasn't made specifically for the Makarov it was made for the "Stechen?" a full automatic Makarov designed with special law enforcement purposes. It's also supposed to have an 80 round capacity however like most drum mags It's really unreliable.
Not really. While both shoot 9x18 Makarov ammo, the Stechkin normally uses a 20 round double-stack mag (There is an 80 mag for the Stechkin) versus an 8 round single stack on the Makarov. No way that tall, thick Stechkin mag fits into the Makarov's mag well. Having said that, I have seen photos of a custom-built Makarov 80 round mag. It likely was made using a combination of the two magazines.
@@jarink1 This is it. They added that custom-made magazine - which only existed in very few examples IRL - pretty much "just because we can", and I think it's a pretty fun detail to add a high-capacity magazine to what's pretty much the crappiest pistol in the game. :D
I want him to see squad for that exact reason. Insurgency has decent audio design but squad is miles better and easily the best shooter sound design out there right now.
@@bluecaptainIT so the chad which are the yellow face emojis leaves home to the city, and catches a flight to someshere in the middle east(🕌 this isn't specific enough). It might be a holiday or vacation as the chad is on the road. The chad hears gunshots and gradually starts to freak out, the chad is terrified before he is shot and killed.
OOOOOOOOHHH the Ash-12, best sounding gun in the game IMO. Would love to hear what he has to say about the TT or even the golden TT that Reshala(?) drops
11:08 Summary: Shots 1-5: Clearly missed. Shots 6-9: Missed due to recoil (bad spray control). Shots 10-11: Very close, but recoil and inaccuracy make these reasonable misses. Shot 12: Likely didn't actually fire because Hiko was already dead.
I like how Jonathan noticed the realism the developers were trying to achieve and how he adjusted his critics. You would not expect someone criticizing the ragdoll and physical reactions of the target in a game like call of duty for exemple.
Imo I own and play both squad and tarkov the gunplay is fairly realistic in Squad but Tarkov's is the king just in terms of realism, recoil, ammunition types etc.
@@rebel4029 yes that's the main issue, some servers are just full of dudes running around not even doing the objective with hardbass playing through the proximity voice channel and the actual servers that are really serious are either full all the time or empty.
@@Tacticaviator7 exactly my problem I have about 250 hours as SL and even though my squad will be named MIC ONLY I got people without them or imbeciles.
They really aren't rare, it was invented for police and swat in russia, and they don't export them. It's not surprising a Brit wouldn't know. Bolt action shotguns are also hugely popular in russia, and are only more uncommon outside of there
@@steelbear2063 bolt action shotguns were popular budget weapons in the 1950-60's in the US, around the same time in russia the soviets were making the MTs 20 series which would later evolve into the modern day toz-106
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This was a really great watch, I only wish I could like the video multiple times. Most people seem to be commenting on the level of detail Mr. Ferguson goes into with the weapons, which is understandable, however for me what was most impressive were the accuracy of his predictions about which weapons are preferred by players and why, WITHOUT actually knowing the game too well. The fact that a weapons expert talking about just the weapons can be accurate about this speaks volumes about the accuracy of Tarkov and not just how it models weapons, but firefights as a whole.
I love Tarkov! It's super fun to be able to build my actual builds IRL in the game. You also point out my biggest nitpick about Tarkov. The recoil on most automatic weapons (AR/AK, some subs) is way too violent, especially when running a compensator. An AR in .223/5.56 or an AK in 5.45 will have very manageable recoil even with select fire.
@@justbrowsing4925 plenty of games record sounds and still fuck it up. Tarkov does it all so good. If they could just actually optimize the game they'd be golden
Everything except for the gameplay. The gun interactions with players are laughable. The damage effects are visibly non-existent and far too weak, and the death animations are hilariously over the top.
@@commodore92 tbh game runs 60fps at 1440p on a 1060 6gb and i7 4770 for me. Shadows to minimum, textures on high. TAA I think. Minimal stutters/hitches, overall smooth. IDK where people get problems, my pc is 5 years outdated and still on ddr3 ram lmao.
@@Sun-Tzu- you've obviously never actually played the game because it's by far the most realistic shooter made to date (and it's still in Beta). Unfortunately, this video was set-up by someone newer to the game. They didn't really use good examples. He wasn't ever even playing real people these were just little offline games against AI turned all the way down. Would be interesting for him to watch some real gameplay with players using META weapons.
The stechkin is a double stacked mag, while makarov is single stacked. Experimental makarov drums were made in russia. They hold 80 rnds, and pics can be found on the internet.
“Just because you can doesn’t mean you should” Yes this is true because this parts can make the price on the gun pretty expensive 😂 and someone like me who spends not a lot of time in tarkov can’t afford something like that
@@IckbobTheAwesome Literally why the RFB is my favorite lol. I don't care really for flashlights or lasers on my gun, so it's a simple cannon to me. The 762x51 guns are just scary
also speaking of the muzzle climb, in tarkov you have dozens of skills that increase the more you use them. Recoil control is one of those skills so the guy shooting the AK-101 must have a poor recoil control skill and thats why it's climbing so much
As well as weapon skills. The more you use a certain type of gun the better you get with it. And with the AK-101-104 series some of them are actually pretty hard to get so no surprises someone firing a basically stock AK-101 would be all over the place. Weapons mastering matter BIG TIME in tarkov.
When set to fully automatic, when holding down fire the gun initially jumps up, but comes close to re-centering itself after a few bullets, like it's trying to replicate initial recoil and the shooters compensation for it.
The optics on the guns were impressively modelled too in the way they get distorted or dark as soon as they get out of alignment with the shooters "eye".
There is another game that has the mechanic of the direction of fire is dictated by where the gun on the screen is physically pointing: Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth. Another quirk about it is that you can't exactly do 180 no-scope shots in it, because when you move your mouse your character might change direction which you are facing, but there is a slight bit of lag in which he brings the gun up to point in the same direction so if you click the fire button on the mouse too quickly when turning, your shots will go wild.
@@slavsupreme5129 there's a character in game named Mechanic, a local gunsmith, who among other things built PM drum mag (by combining factory mag with a PPSH-41 drum), sniper version of sawn off Mosin and even AP round for smoothbore .366 TKM caliber
Im pretty sure the game states that the makarov drum is a wacky creation by merging a ppsh drum with a makarov magazine.. never made in any production quantity but appearantly theyre easy to make
I'm not a gun nut by any means, but I always thought what made tarkov special was the attention to detail when it comes to realistic gunplay. Cool to see a guy that knows his stuff verify just how special this game really is.
Huh, the KS 23 actually makes a lot of sense. The guns were designed with rifled 6 gauge barrels that were originally 23mm autocannon barrels. I hear they were often used with slug rounds as a result, which helps explains the range it has in-game.
I'd love to see Jonathan review the guns in Metro: Exodus (or indeed any of the Metro games) - I loved how the crafting mechanics in Exodus would change the way a gun acted and felt to use (he mentions the drum mag on the Makarov in the vid, but Exodus did this as well, where different configurations of mag, barrel and stock all had distinct advantages/disadvantages. That, and the guns are all technically feasible or are based off real world guns, firing real-world ammo (for the most part), so it'd be interesting to get his take on their design and implementation in the game.
@@walouinsanityshed I think that's to simulate the loss of control while firing in full auto. I have a hard time imagining every PMC has had 100 hours at the shooting range with every gun in the game :)
@@IckbobTheAwesome Nah, I bet every singel PMC probably got atleast 100 hours on a shooting range. I mean, they are soldiers in a private military company. Scavs on the other hand...
The recoil is more to do with the game being an mmo, they purposely have the recoil set this way for "balance". I do agree though the recoil on some guns can be way to much sometimes and can be frustrating.
@@IckbobTheAwesome recoil is under or over represented in most games. Handgun recoil is almost always under represented and rifle and smg recoil is almost always exaggerated.
06:40 "A trained person can hold that weapon on target" Funny you say that, because the more you use a weapon, and the more you shoot full auto, the better your character will be at compensating for recoil! (There's general recoil control, weapon class specific skills, and weapon specific "mastering") There's a bunch of other "Character skills" like endurance, strength, stress resistance, cover movement, mag drills etc. and the more you are exposed to stuff, the better your character gets at it. However, if you're not exposed to some of the things you have levelled up, your character will start to loose what he has learned and slowly level down. (A really cool mechanic, but unfortunately it punishes players that are not very active.)
1:56 "A Russian inventor has developed an eighty round 9x18mm magazine for the Makarov PM pistol. He writes (in Russian) that the Makarov is still in use by police in Russia not because they cannot afford new pistols but because the Makarov is genuinely loved. He says the problem with them is that standard magazine only holds eight rounds and extended magazines only hold up 12 rounds. Twelve rounds is not a lot by todays standards, especially when you consider that the 9x18mm is about 30% less powerful than a 9x19mm NATO. His solution was to develop a drum magazine that holds eighty rounds." It's for sure not widely produced but there definitely are some out in the wild.
Stereotypical Russian soldier: But he is right. Makarov shoot tiny round, better to throw gun at imperialist's head than shoot, and better yet to shoot glorious AK until every motherfucker in room has been taught error of ways.
Until the PMM, the single stack mag was something of a limiting factor. Between that and the compact size it certainly seems more suited for being a backup
@@Ben-ek1fz he's well-spoken, I'll admit that. His refusal to acknowledge some stupidly simple things like the existence of secular morality, the blatant misrepresentation of a bill that ended up putting him in the public eye, his all-meat diet, his extremely reductive worldview based on personal responsibility (that ends up being just a way to justify conservatism), etc. Not to mention the obtuse things he says in interviews and his embarrassing debate with Slavoj Zizek.
@@Ben-ek1fz he is a good speaker. Although I've seen videos of lectures from him that are also full of shit (specifically his segments on Hitler and on how he believes ancient civilizations represented the DNA double helix in their art), so I don't think I agree with you on him being a smart educator.
He didn't react much or at all to the first hits though. No flinch, no pain, not even sprinting for cover. He just keeps slow walking around, its only once he gets hit lethally that there's any real reaction. Hence the nerf gun comment. To be fair though, for the most part scav AI in tarkov is really good and they react more dynamically to various situations than most games and rarely just stand there like morons when taking fire. Also most of the hits where to the limbs, a chest shot would have had more effect. Still, not the most flattering example of AI being shot in tarkov.
Yeah, I think the player was using a optic zeroed to like 100m at less than a quarter of that distance, so it's possible that several of the shots (especially the early ones) went high over the target, which would also explain why the ones aimed for centre mass were more effective.
@@ffandrewd2986 The AK-47 uses 7.62, but as he mentions this is an AK-101 which uses 5.56. Combine that with a muzzle brake and you won't see much in terms of climb.
7:52 I'm surprised he missed this, but a minor detail the game gets wrong is that the front sight should not visible when using a scope. The scope can't focus on anything that is very close to the muzzle, and in real life, the front sight won't obstruct the sights picture.
@@willjepson7770 Based on my experience using an AR with a 3-9x optic, the front sight would be completely invisible. It has to do with how the lens warp light.
@@truedemoknight6784 this is specificaly a sv-98 problem. The front sight is correctly visible in the scope because he is using a wrong ring mount for the scope - a low profile one. If you use correct one this problem doesnt occur.
A Russian inventor made an 85 round mag for the makarov, the pistol is still used in some places by Russian police because of how loved the gun is and the history it has. The 8 and 12 shot capacity were a major issue so he took it upon himself to create it but it is out there.
The creator of the game goes to the gun range and shoots many of the weapons in the game so of course he's going to try to recreate them in game as best as possible. Love it
Firearms Expert: "Not quite sure why you'd put a drum magazine on a makarov..." Meanwhile the Tarkov Reddit community: "look what I can do with the mini mosin"
The thing with the M4 seemingly unphasing the enemy is an issue of ammo. For some reason Tarkov treats low grade ammunition like a step above confetti, and high grade ammo as ultra deadly.
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Tarkov has loads of weapons so obviously we couldn't cover them all in one episode!
So Tarkov fans let us know what weapons you want Jonathan to cover next, and if you're lucky we may do a follow up episode!
(and yes I totally recorded this gameplay in offline mode because I DON'T HAVE THAT MANY ROUBLES TO WASTE META M4s AND AS VALS OKAY?!)
get him to do the rat cannon, the VPO hunter
Do some light machine guns? Or guns built around continuous fire and high capacity magazines
show him the workbench customization too
I'd like to hear his thoughts on the .366 Vepr. Maybe the Saiga 12 or PP-19. Obrez mosin.
Do something like MP7, Ash-12, SA-58, HK416, DT MDR, RSASS, GLOCK 18C, FN-5/7
Jonathan is a fantastic guest to have on this show, he knows his weapons and he is a gamer which is awesome because he can admit, "yeah, that was done for the game because it's cool."
Right? Big respect to those who separate their jobs and expertise and games
I can respect how he does secretly admire realism and accuracy though
Exactly he's not condescending like other experts (or the TH-cam "experts"), doesn't belittle them for making mistakes he realises its a game and that they make changes for gameplay
It's pretty cool that he notices little details like the ammo in the mags, still blows me away that the bullet that is rendered is the ammo in the mag, you can even inspect a mag to see what kind of ammo is in the mag if you can recognize by sight instead of unloading a round to see what ammo is in it
I wish he showed the Ash-12
@@TheDelta016 I think that's why he made the suggestion about the MP5 mag; if they've gone so far with the attention to detail already, then why not go all the way?
As for the AK drum mag... well, that just looks absurd.
"Pausing..."
Tarkov devs:
*Sweating*
You know he is impressed, but you also know that he’s only ever said it in an unimpressed manner
@@elijahaitaok8624 he probably went and bought it right after this was recorded. lol
@@SpaceMissile Installed it, uninstalled it.... reinstalled it... uninstalled it..
@@updlate4756 I felt this comment...
My man, you got 2 top comments. You're a goddamn giga-chad I hope you know that.
What I love about this guy is how not only is he a firearms expert, but he also seems to be videogame-literate enough to understand core gameplay concepts and game mechanics. That really makes the difference in entertainment value when compared to videos with the same premise.
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Yeah it's great because he evaluates the games as well as the guns. And honestly, I'm here for both.
Yeah This guy is awesome
"Just because you can, doesn't mean you should"
*Adding six flashlight
You are infact violating the Geneva convention for using an intrument which permanently renders a person blind.
@@nguyen-vuluu3150 uqi 141, accused of blinding an opponent in armed combat before killing him with with two bullets (m995) into the left arm and one into the head, is hereby found guilty.
An importent detail for the jury´s decision was the fact that the defendant was using more flashlights than bullets.
Same.
If you don't have 2U-Kleh on every hard point, how can you replace the sun?
@@nguyen-vuluu3150 you misspelled "Geneva Suggestion"
This guy is a golden nugget.
A legit gun expert and gamer.
Keep him reappearing on this channel. He gets to promote his museum and you get a likable guy on your channel
he is indeed a gamer
He makes a couple of misses and odd statements tbh.
@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine Get a load of this guy here.
hur hurr there's a couple of misses an odd statements, _tbh_
@@jetstreak2786 Yeah. For instance he looks at the magazine for the MP5 and incorrectly perceives it as being modeled as a single position feed magazine, when it's not, it's accurately depicted as two position feed, the devs didn't fuck up.
There's also the notion of 12-Gauge being *better* than 20-Gauge, which is just a weird thing to say, akin to saying .44 Magnum is a better cartridge than 9mm Luger, just because it has more power for a given round.
I am pretty sure that mp5 is double feed double stack instead of single feed double stack like a sten gun. I mean u can refer back to forgotten weapon as a reference since i am no firearm expert nor scholars
“Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should”
Tell that to those rocking 4+ flashlights...
what? it's dark in factory...
I use 6 flashlight In my mpx
The light of the sun will smite you
@@JohnGregory-i8o praise the sun!
Hey you might be able to blind people :)
You totally must show him the modification screen so that he sees how many things you can change in every single gun
Episode 2
**laughs in ump45**
he'd hate it lol
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The Makarov drum magazine does exist! it was meant to be used by Russian Police Forces (SWATs) as a force multiplier, it's capacity is 82 rounds, it was used by Ballistic Shieldsmen where they literally cannot reload, so this is very much real!
Also a meta choice for armistice operators like yourself.
I wish you could say it to his face. I was really annoyed that he didn't bother googleing it.
@@whativelearnedthisweek4518 Yeah as "Expert" i would somehow try to google it before opening my mouth.
Well it's somewhat of a one off thing because it's made by welding a PPSH drum to a modified PM magazine (with all the quality and feed issues that might come along). It's real in the sense that exists in real life but it's a makeshift frankensteined thing not a manufactured product.
@@MustYouHaveAUsername hey, it was used in actual situation, in production or not, it's still real, it's not common because it's used in uncommon situations (large shootouts) main reason why it's not in production
Tarkov devs are something of a firearms experts themselves
@SharkTank the only thing I know is that they make a trip to Kalashnikov and test their guns
@SharkTank they test all their firearms in person with their companies. Also they seem to know how guns work. So yeah, they are.
@SharkTank yes they are
@SharkTank they actually test fire a lot of gun from kalashnikov. There's even a video about it
@SharkTank the lead Dev owns a kalashnikov and trains for several hours on most sundays according to him. So yes. Many are.
I've played this game for years and never picked up on some of these smaller details. Great video!
Haha played this game? You are part of the lore. You have your own item in the game!
I found it in the power station in interchange if anyone is looking for it.
fancy seeing you here, saying you have "played the game for years", is a very understated way of saying you know this game almost inside and out
@@miket130 thats where i found the first one ever looted in tarkov. ( the patch that dropped i said ahh fuck it and launched a player scav as soon as the servers came up.) -went interchange - spawned power, went in and two were on the multi level switch. Spent the rest of the morning trying to give them to deadly but he told me to keep them. They were in a place of honor in my stash until that wipe.
I have no where near the hours played you do, but I think part of why you, as I did as well, missed some of these intricate details is we just weren't entirely looking for them. Supreme Overlord Nikita was to busy making us question our sanity to notice
@@miket130 Right? DS Is a founder when it comes to this game in my book!
Guys, Jonathan, the guy in the video is sadly currently suffering from back issues. There's a chance he might be affected for life if it is not treated. The source of the issues is currently suspected to be from carrying this channel so fucking hard.
You got me in the first half not gonna lie.
This is so true. The only reason this channel has views from me.
Its kind of embarrassing lol. I wonder if it would be more profitable for him to just do it on his own, get someone to edit it and then have the highest rated suggestion for a game be the next video but whatever
dude you got me, LOL
Oh, I thought you were gonna say he had L U M B A G O
This had to have been the best game to do this series on
it's definitely a good one, I would really like to see it done for Day of Infamy as well
arma 3?
@@mastershooter64 not without mods
@@TheSaladTozzer Insurgency sandstorm would be better
Hey arent you the herobrine guy? On Minecraft pocket edition
Tarkov Devs:
“Close the servers fix the drum mag now”
"GOD DAMN IT, ADD SIDE BY SIDE ROUNDS IN THE MP5 MAGS!!"
theres a drum mag in RL
@@ghostreal yes but u can't faze a stock through it.
@@corvus6178 What u mean
@@ghostreal Did you watch the part with the folding stock? Specifically where a foldable stock fazed through a RPK drum magazine? If you didn't, it's at 7 minutes in.
"This being a realistic game i suspect the weapon's characteristics to suffer when you got every accessory under the sun attached to your rifle"
Yeah, about that...
Ergo suffers which is the most important stat, so kind of true.
@@casedistorted what about recoil?
@@tintschi2049 recoil decreases up/down but you get tons of sway and horrible squidgyness when it comes to getting a crosshair back on target.
@@tintschi2049 Recoil is also affected by different attachments and certain types of ammo, quite significantly actually.
The more weight on a gun the less recoil
I feel like he could do a full series on Tarkov, given the sheer depth of its firearm system.
That would be so fucking cool!!
well there are 12 ammo types for 5.45x39 mm ammo alone, so, yeah i reckon it could
“The sheer depth” bro you’re not 43
@@Radiuhh ok?
@@Radiuhh "Bro"
I reckon you're not of the age of 12 anymore, are you?
I wouldn’t be surprised that the sound effects are good. A lot of them are actual recordings of guns
Every game uses real recordings of guns. The Tarkov Difference is their acoustics, location-specific reverberation, sound decay, diffusion, and reflections are all affected by surroundings, caliber, muzzle attachments, etc.
@@OrdnanceTV not every game uses real recordings of guns i can assure you on that
@@collinweinheimer1056 Most games devs use clips other developers have created and licensed out to either public domain, or to make some extra money for the studio on the side.
A good majority, if all nowadays are real gun sounds.
But you can also easily argue that they’re usually edited, and combined with other sounds to make it more “Video gamey” and “explodey”
My first year playing the game every different gun and caliber would give a legit dopamine rush. You'd shoot the gun and be so distracted by the epic popping gun sound, it's even more punchy then battlefield guns, by a mile. Now I am less distracted by the beauty and am just looking for heads to click on.
I like the fact this guy also understands video games and is well versed in them himself so he doesn't get hung up on the typical video game quirks, concessions and precepts.
This exact comment has been posted 500 times on these videos and it really makes gamers look like a bunch of sensitive loser bums. Like you'll break down if he seriously critiques something that isn't accurate even if it is a game.
@@AR15andGOD calm down jesus
@@AR15andGODOddly specific, but fine.
People enjoy this fact because it's unusual, youtube had plenty of experts who were disinterested and shooting down any kind of disbelief because it's a videogame. Besides, it's a video about videogames - of course people will point this out. People are having fun, you won't stop it.
Only 14 minutes? 😢 I could hear this guy talk about guns for hours.
Well you had best stay tuned then eh?
He has a book, published in cooperation with Ian of Forgotten Weapons, all about British bullpup rifles
He has done an hour long interview with Ian from forgotten weapons, I believe on makeshift firearms.
I know right
@@IrregularDave I would but i hate gamespot so im not going to.
"Many scavs were harmed in the making of this video."
Stop scav on scav violence
“Never realized they modeled nerf guns”
Desync and helmets can be a real issue honestly
From that clip it seemed like it's the good ol' limbs eating up damage. Tarkov's body part HP pool system is a great idea but needs a lot of tuning. Hitting some naked scav 5 shots in the torso with a M4 very commonly leads to nothing because the HP system. Theoretically 3 shots to the chest would have killed that Scav, but what happens way too often in Tarkov is only 1 of those 5 shots hit the chest and 2 of those shots hit the stomach and 2 of those hit arms, thus making the target tank way too much damage even without armor. Albeit every time their limb gets hit they are also losing HP in other body parts, but imo Nikita has to make limbs not stop any ammo that has more than 10 penetration point and the projectile should still retain 80% of its original damage if it hits chest after penetrating limbs, or they need to make chest/stomach/head take way higher damage even if someone gets hit in the limbs or other body parts
You will be suprise how much damage the human body could take.
@@gotanon8958 well he was criticizing the fact that the guy who was getting shot was not reacting to impacts. Lack of sense of power from ur shots.
He even said that yes in some instances human body can take that many rounds before dying. So there is realism in that.
This game have really poor animations. Thats the issue here
Shots 1-5: Clearly missed.
Shots 6-9: Missed due to recoil (bad spray control).
Shots 10-11: Very close, but recoil and inaccuracy make these reasonable misses.
I know in the latest build of tarkov you can’t fold the stocks with certain attachments
thats when you have a sidefolding stock with a dovetail mounted scope or rail mount
Nut you can fold stock and then put those on
This was recorded in the latest patch for what it's worth.
There is a bug where you can still put a rubber/pso on top of an ak/svd when it's folded. They also need to adress that. Sometimes it's visually unfolded but takes inventory space of a folded gun. Even managed to glitch out my aks-74un. It's folded in game, takes less inventory space, has a dovetail cobra, rubber butstock and has the same recoil as unfolded gun.
I remember reading somewhere that the Tarkov devs actually recorded guns being fired, reloaded etc in abandoned warehouses. The fact that Johnathan immediately picked up on that without actually knowing is pretty profound imo.
There's videos on it
Yep, they did actually. They have a video of the sound recording process.
I love how knowledgeable and aware he is of the gaming aspect of things, it genuinely surprised me (this being the first react video of his I watched). With how popular experts react to "name a thing" in gaming has become in the last couple years, it's refreshing to see an expert who actually understands the gaming side of things and includes that in their commentary!
His disappointment when he saw the AK's stock being folded through its drum magazine
I know. It must be hard for game designers to get something like this spot on, but I still had a little grimace on my face when the stock clipped through the drum, given how rare it is to see a game implement the AK47s folding stock action at all.
@@peterclarke7240 iirc stocks cannot be folded anymore if attachments would block it, ie sidemounted sights for sidefolder ak's, not too sure about the drummag and underfolder tho but they are working on it
@@peterclarke7240 well you cant fold sidefolding stocks when you put a rubber stockbumper (or whatever its called again,) on ak-74m’s also the svd doesnt fold when you put a sight mount on it too, so im certain this either is foxed already or will be fixed soon enough
you can see it clip through the players arm too.
Can u give timestamp?
“I can’t imagine why that’s a thing”, comedy that’s why
Because that drum mag is a real thing, and because they can.
@@fokka6010 If you can't make meme guns with 15 flashlights or lasers than why even bother?
@@56bturn ah, yes. 15 flashlights. The walking flashbang.
Amazingly, It actually is a real thing. If you look up the 80rd Makarov PM drum? They do exist and TheFirearmBlog has an article about them. There's also a Reddit post on the ForgottenWeapons subreddit about these, and they're apparently designed for Russian police/SWAT team officers who are using ballistic/riot shields and a sidearm, which makes sense since trying to reload while carrying a ballistic shield can get you killed. In the 1990s and 2000s, Russia was dealing with an economic disaster from the collapse of the USSR which generated a huge increase in crime (both lone wolf criminals and organized gangs/groups like the Russian Mafia) and terrorism. However many police departments couldn't afford to arm all their officers with nice modern carbines/SMGs like the AKS-74u or 9A91 or a PP-19 Bizon. Even to this day, Makarov pistols are still very common to see in police use since they're compact, are battle proven, and they have trained with them for years and years, so there's that familiarity. There's also a machine pistol closely related to the Makarov called the APS Stechkin, it's a full auto machine pistol with a C96 Mauser Broomhandle style wooden stock that doubles as a holster, there's also a variant called the APB Stechkin that is equipped with a folding wire stock and a quick detach silencer. The APS uses a 20rd magazine that looks like an extended Makarov mag, I wonder if the drum could be used on the Stechkin, that would make a LOT more sense. While it's heavy, bulky, and likely is prone to feeding issues, as a niche/special purpose tool for close quarters combat and counter terrorism that's cheaper than equipping officers with brand new carbines/SMGs? I could see the premise behind it. I don't know if these were ever used, but apparently these were made in very small numbers for law enforcement officers carrying ballistic/riot shields.
TLDR Yes they exist, produced in very small numbers for cops/SWAT/counter terrorism officers using ballistic shields and a sidearm in one hand.
@@keithm5378 but why do you need 80 rounds in a pistol?
The Big Makarov drum mag is a real thing. However it wasn't made specifically for the Makarov it was made for the "Stechen?" a full automatic Makarov designed with special law enforcement purposes. It's also supposed to have an 80 round capacity however like most drum mags It's really unreliable.
Not really. While both shoot 9x18 Makarov ammo, the Stechkin normally uses a 20 round double-stack mag (There is an 80 mag for the Stechkin) versus an 8 round single stack on the Makarov. No way that tall, thick Stechkin mag fits into the Makarov's mag well.
Having said that, I have seen photos of a custom-built Makarov 80 round mag. It likely was made using a combination of the two magazines.
@@jarink1 This is it. They added that custom-made magazine - which only existed in very few examples IRL - pretty much "just because we can", and I think it's a pretty fun detail to add a high-capacity magazine to what's pretty much the crappiest pistol in the game. :D
Ingame-description says it is a modified PPSch-41 drum
handmade
Was it meant to be used with a ballistic shield?
Jonathan is the gift that keeps on giving!
please do insurgency: sandstorm next. it has amazing audio design
i just recommended it, but yeah i 1+ since i didn't see this comment
I also was looking for a comment like this because i agree aswell, definitely a great mix of realism and fun
i just wanted to comment this :D
Post scripum would also be an amazing game for him to check out. Their sound design is top notch
I want him to see squad for that exact reason. Insurgency has decent audio design but squad is miles better and easily the best shooter sound design out there right now.
I love that you mention how games make shotguns useless at mid to long range. I really wish more games did what Tarkov does there.
That is done for balance purposes. CoD MW2 had akimbo model 1887 I suggest you go check that out and learn why they nerfed it.
Insurgency Sandstorm does
It's done because that's the reality of range you get from shotguns, except slugs shot out of rifled barrels.
*Sees tricked out weapons*
Jonathan: "Just because you can, doesn't mean you should"
Chads: "I'm going to pretend I didn't hear that"
why run basic guns if you put atleast 4 sights on it....
@@metanumia is it bad that i actually understand this?
@@ihatethatyoutubedisplaysyo8106 probably, I didn't understand a thing
@@ihatethatyoutubedisplaysyo8106 explain, I'm still trying to solve this Rebus
@@bluecaptainIT so the chad which are the yellow face emojis leaves home to the city, and catches a flight to someshere in the middle east(🕌 this isn't specific enough). It might be a holiday or vacation as the chad is on the road. The chad hears gunshots and gradually starts to freak out, the chad is terrified before he is shot and killed.
I'd love to see some more gun reactions in EFT, especially guns like Ash-12, SKS, Mosin for example
OOOOOOOOHHH the Ash-12, best sounding gun in the game IMO. Would love to hear what he has to say about the TT or even the golden TT that Reshala(?) drops
11:08
Summary:
Shots 1-5: Clearly missed.
Shots 6-9: Missed due to recoil (bad spray control).
Shots 10-11: Very close, but recoil and inaccuracy make these reasonable misses.
Shot 12: Likely didn't actually fire because Hiko was already dead.
Shots 2-5 clearly hit. You can see the blood spray and the reticle being directly on target.
@@AR15andGOD It's a copypasta
I like how the guy can't stop smiling when he sees that tricked out MP5.
That stutter in the beginning when he was shooting the Mac from the rafters! That’s the real tarkov right there xD
I like how Jonathan noticed the realism the developers were trying to achieve and how he adjusted his critics. You would not expect someone criticizing the ragdoll and physical reactions of the target in a game like call of duty for exemple.
Now let him react to Red Orchestra 2 and Rising Storm 2 Vietnam.
Oh yeah, trying to hit that rpg on a flying heli is hard.
@@vitaliyred622 Well I took out several helis with just a regular Mosin Nagant since I can never get the RPG class in time.
I'd like to see him react to changing an overheated barrel on an mg42.
I'd like to see him react to RS2 buckshot sniping
Also Killing Floor 2. Tripwire knows it.
Insurgency: Sandstorm next?
Maybe Post Scriptum?
Project reality and squad
Sandstorm is so wanky with guns
@@Nick-hm9rh i dont think anything is wrong with sandstorms guns
It happened
ive binged all of Jonathan's videos. he is so entertaining and informative
The series is the best. I gotta have more. Maybe a second part to Tarkov.....
exactly what I'm saying
They missed some cool weapons like the the suppresed M870
Review the game "squad" ,it doesn't have that much guns but I find them very enjoyable to play.
Imo I own and play both squad and tarkov the gunplay is fairly realistic in Squad but Tarkov's is the king just in terms of realism, recoil, ammunition types etc.
@@rebel4029 Tarkov is good for survival/gun type realism. Squad is better for the whole military firefight experience as a whole
@@RealDovamo it is when people actually decide to use there mic and cooperate with there SL
@@rebel4029 yes that's the main issue, some servers are just full of dudes running around not even doing the objective with hardbass playing through the proximity voice channel and the actual servers that are really serious are either full all the time or empty.
@@Tacticaviator7 exactly my problem I have about 250 hours as SL and even though my squad will be named MIC ONLY I got people without them or imbeciles.
can we just talk about how nice this guy is
You know the drum for the PM is rare when a firearms expert says it's not familiar
They really aren't rare, it was invented for police and swat in russia, and they don't export them. It's not surprising a Brit wouldn't know. Bolt action shotguns are also hugely popular in russia, and are only more uncommon outside of there
@Lind_Koda331_337. yes, and in a game that takes place in Russia, it would make sense for there to be more bolt shotguns
@Lind_Koda331_337. doesnt that seem dumb to you the restrictions i mean
@@Dusk3e
До этого видео я вообще не знал что есть дробовики такого типа.
@@steelbear2063 bolt action shotguns were popular budget weapons in the 1950-60's in the US, around the same time in russia the soviets were making the MTs 20 series which would later evolve into the modern day toz-106
This was a really great watch, I only wish I could like the video multiple times. Most people seem to be commenting on the level of detail Mr. Ferguson goes into with the weapons, which is understandable, however for me what was most impressive were the accuracy of his predictions about which weapons are preferred by players and why, WITHOUT actually knowing the game too well. The fact that a weapons expert talking about just the weapons can be accurate about this speaks volumes about the accuracy of Tarkov and not just how it models weapons, but firefights as a whole.
THAT WHOLE FIGHT WHEN THE AS VAL RAN OUT OF AMMO WAS SO FUNNY IM CRYING.
He should react to some of the gun creation of general Sam in tarkov. "I wouldn't even shot my mom with that gun"
general sam is too powerful and must be contained to not spread to a wider audience
@@ratling9000 just because you said that now I have to be a fan of him lol
I'd like to see him cover the 19th century guns in Hunt: Showdown, the guns and reloads are fairly accurate
I love Tarkov! It's super fun to be able to build my actual builds IRL in the game. You also point out my biggest nitpick about Tarkov. The recoil on most automatic weapons (AR/AK, some subs) is way too violent, especially when running a compensator. An AR in .223/5.56 or an AK in 5.45 will have very manageable recoil even with select fire.
Tarkovs gun selection, sounds, and customization options are absolutely second to none right now. It's incredible
The sounds mainly because the ly use the actual sounds of the guns.
@@justbrowsing4925 plenty of games record sounds and still fuck it up. Tarkov does it all so good. If they could just actually optimize the game they'd be golden
Everything except for the gameplay. The gun interactions with players are laughable. The damage effects are visibly non-existent and far too weak, and the death animations are hilariously over the top.
@@commodore92 tbh game runs 60fps at 1440p on a 1060 6gb and i7 4770 for me. Shadows to minimum, textures on high. TAA I think. Minimal stutters/hitches, overall smooth. IDK where people get problems, my pc is 5 years outdated and still on ddr3 ram lmao.
@@Sun-Tzu- you've obviously never actually played the game because it's by far the most realistic shooter made to date (and it's still in Beta). Unfortunately, this video was set-up by someone newer to the game. They didn't really use good examples. He wasn't ever even playing real people these were just little offline games against AI turned all the way down. Would be interesting for him to watch some real gameplay with players using META weapons.
The drum magazine exists. It was made for the stechkin, which is basically a full auto makarov
The stechkin is a double stacked mag, while makarov is single stacked. Experimental makarov drums were made in russia. They hold 80 rnds, and pics can be found on the internet.
@@Yku30 . correct. The drum mags were for the single stacked makArovs though
“Just because you can doesn’t mean you should”
Yes this is true because this parts can make the price on the gun pretty expensive 😂 and someone like me who spends not a lot of time in tarkov can’t afford something like that
Get MDR's and other weapons that doesn't require modding at all, just slap a sight on an MDR and you're good to go
@@IckbobTheAwesome Literally why the RFB is my favorite lol. I don't care really for flashlights or lasers on my gun, so it's a simple cannon to me. The 762x51 guns are just scary
Message to certain airsofters:
"Just because you can, doesn't mean you should."
Burger
regruB
also speaking of the muzzle climb, in tarkov you have dozens of skills that increase the more you use them. Recoil control is one of those skills so the guy shooting the AK-101 must have a poor recoil control skill and thats why it's climbing so much
"It's climbing too much!"
As well as weapon skills. The more you use a certain type of gun the better you get with it. And with the AK-101-104 series some of them are actually pretty hard to get so no surprises someone firing a basically stock AK-101 would be all over the place. Weapons mastering matter BIG TIME in tarkov.
When set to fully automatic, when holding down fire the gun initially jumps up, but comes close to re-centering itself after a few bullets, like it's trying to replicate initial recoil and the shooters compensation for it.
4:50 F in the chat for Scav that was whacked to death by a tactical shovel
F
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The optics on the guns were impressively modelled too in the way they get distorted or dark as soon as they get out of alignment with the shooters "eye".
once were out this pandemic, im going to the royal armouries museum just to sit and talk about guns lol
There is another game that has the mechanic of the direction of fire is dictated by where the gun on the screen is physically pointing: Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth.
Another quirk about it is that you can't exactly do 180 no-scope shots in it, because when you move your mouse your character might change direction which you are facing, but there is a slight bit of lag in which he brings the gun up to point in the same direction so if you click the fire button on the mouse too quickly when turning, your shots will go wild.
the makarov does have a drum mag, it was homemade so it’s plausible.
Khyber pass I’m guessing???
@@slavsupreme5129 I wouldn't be surprised if that was true.
Their AK's are top quality though.
@@slavsupreme5129 there's a character in game named Mechanic, a local gunsmith, who among other things built PM drum mag (by combining factory mag with a PPSH-41 drum), sniper version of sawn off Mosin and even AP round for smoothbore .366 TKM caliber
@@redacted5937 No I heard it was made in house by some soviet "swat" team for use with ballistic shields in cqb
I'd love to hear him talk about Rising Storm 2: Vietnam 's guns!
I'd like to hear what he has to say about Insurgency: Sandstorm
There is a video about it now.
10:20 - laughs in 250m shotgun kills in rising storm 2
I think in the gun in Tarkov was shooting slugs as well.
you can get 600 meter shotgun kills in Tarkov if you use the correct ammo lol
It's a ks-23... stuffs op
@@kallumander Its absolute maximum. I had a troble with max accuracy shootgun using superperfomance to kill a scav from 300m
@@kallumander ap 20 ammo yeahh
"there is no drum magazine for a makarov"
Americans: watch me
As my friend from the Marines once said:
"If you can attach it to a gun, then it's Gods will"
Im pretty sure the game states that the makarov drum is a wacky creation by merging a ppsh drum with a makarov magazine.. never made in any production quantity but appearantly theyre easy to make
@@koekiejam18 . makarov drum mags exist in russia. Spetnaz experimented with them. U can find pics on the internet of them in use.
@@mikemeyer4800 i know, but according to the game they have never been produced in any serious quantity
Brandon Herrera: *drinks Vodka*
IVAN, WORK TO DO.
I'm not a gun nut by any means, but I always thought what made tarkov special was the attention to detail when it comes to realistic gunplay. Cool to see a guy that knows his stuff verify just how special this game really is.
He needs to react to hotdogs, horseshoes and handgrenades!
13:17 it does, and you can determine what rounds you are using by actually looking at the round rather than reading the title in the corner.
Huh, the KS 23 actually makes a lot of sense. The guns were designed with rifled 6 gauge barrels that were originally 23mm autocannon barrels. I hear they were often used with slug rounds as a result, which helps explains the range it has in-game.
Garand Thumb did a video recently on it
"Upcoming episode: Firearms Expert Reacts to Escape From Tarkov's Meme Guns"
I'd love to see Jonathan review the guns in Metro: Exodus (or indeed any of the Metro games) - I loved how the crafting mechanics in Exodus would change the way a gun acted and felt to use (he mentions the drum mag on the Makarov in the vid, but Exodus did this as well, where different configurations of mag, barrel and stock all had distinct advantages/disadvantages.
That, and the guns are all technically feasible or are based off real world guns, firing real-world ammo (for the most part), so it'd be interesting to get his take on their design and implementation in the game.
It's a shame you didn't show him the weapon modding, easily the most impressive part of this game.
I love this guy "too much muzzle climb" for that compensator.
the game is a bit weird with recoil, shakes your camera around real bad as well
@@walouinsanityshed I think that's to simulate the loss of control while firing in full auto. I have a hard time imagining every PMC has had 100 hours at the shooting range with every gun in the game :)
@@IckbobTheAwesome Nah, I bet every singel PMC probably got atleast 100 hours on a shooting range. I mean, they are soldiers in a private military company. Scavs on the other hand...
The recoil is more to do with the game being an mmo, they purposely have the recoil set this way for "balance".
I do agree though the recoil on some guns can be way to much sometimes and can be frustrating.
@@IckbobTheAwesome recoil is under or over represented in most games. Handgun recoil is almost always under represented and rifle and smg recoil is almost always exaggerated.
His tone and personality is so charming
Its really pleasant when he hosts a video
06:40
"A trained person can hold that weapon on target"
Funny you say that, because the more you use a weapon, and the more you shoot full auto, the better your character will be at compensating for recoil! (There's general recoil control, weapon class specific skills, and weapon specific "mastering")
There's a bunch of other "Character skills" like endurance, strength, stress resistance, cover movement, mag drills etc. and the more you are exposed to stuff, the better your character gets at it. However, if you're not exposed to some of the things you have levelled up, your character will start to loose what he has learned and slowly level down. (A really cool mechanic, but unfortunately it punishes players that are not very active.)
They haven't implemented skill retention yet, and don't plan on doing so for a while I believe.
Battlestate take the actual Guns to the Range, into buildings etc for sound recordings - this is why the gun sounds are exceptional.
I love how he says,"Pausing."
1:56 "A Russian inventor has developed an eighty round 9x18mm magazine for the Makarov PM pistol. He writes (in Russian) that the Makarov is still in use by police in Russia not because they cannot afford new pistols but because the Makarov is genuinely loved. He says the problem with them is that standard magazine only holds eight rounds and extended magazines only hold up 12 rounds. Twelve rounds is not a lot by todays standards, especially when you consider that the 9x18mm is about 30% less powerful than a 9x19mm NATO. His solution was to develop a drum magazine that holds eighty rounds." It's for sure not widely produced but there definitely are some out in the wild.
“The makarov is a Cold War weapon, not really suited to combat” *angry AK guy noises*
Stereotypical Russian soldier: But he is right. Makarov shoot tiny round, better to throw gun at imperialist's head than shoot, and better yet to shoot glorious AK until every motherfucker in room has been taught error of ways.
Until the PMM, the single stack mag was something of a limiting factor. Between that and the compact size it certainly seems more suited for being a backup
@@mercenaryTendencies I believe it was always intended as a concealed/emergency weapon
*loads drum mag with SP7 rounds with malicious intent*
Wasn't he the one who said that the Makraov is only good for executing political prisoners?
This guys looks like a younger and less deppressed version of jordan peterson.
And actually smart
@@mthsdcs lol nice bait lets see how it plays out
@@mthsdcs lul
@@Ben-ek1fz he's well-spoken, I'll admit that. His refusal to acknowledge some stupidly simple things like the existence of secular morality, the blatant misrepresentation of a bill that ended up putting him in the public eye, his all-meat diet, his extremely reductive worldview based on personal responsibility (that ends up being just a way to justify conservatism), etc. Not to mention the obtuse things he says in interviews and his embarrassing debate with Slavoj Zizek.
@@Ben-ek1fz he is a good speaker. Although I've seen videos of lectures from him that are also full of shit (specifically his segments on Hitler and on how he believes ancient civilizations represented the DNA double helix in their art), so I don't think I agree with you on him being a smart educator.
12:42 not only an expert but also a man of great taste. Cheers mate! :D
11:58 the man literally fell backward and presumably died.
It looks like MOST of the m4 shots MISSED due to sway.
Or he was hit in the arms. But yeah I think him calling it a nerd gun was dumb
He didn't react much or at all to the first hits though. No flinch, no pain, not even sprinting for cover. He just keeps slow walking around, its only once he gets hit lethally that there's any real reaction. Hence the nerf gun comment.
To be fair though, for the most part scav AI in tarkov is really good and they react more dynamically to various situations than most games and rarely just stand there like morons when taking fire. Also most of the hits where to the limbs, a chest shot would have had more effect. Still, not the most flattering example of AI being shot in tarkov.
Yeah, I think the player was using a optic zeroed to like 100m at less than a quarter of that distance, so it's possible that several of the shots (especially the early ones) went high over the target, which would also explain why the ones aimed for centre mass were more effective.
@@BraindeadCRY They will probably add better animations in the final release, which I believe drops tomorrow
Nah the M4 just hits like a nerf gun in the game for some reason
"The AK is climbing too much" THANK YOU
It’s 556 like wtf
@@youngnarmer1k82 I thought it was 7.62
@@ffandrewd2986 The AK-47 uses 7.62, but as he mentions this is an AK-101 which uses 5.56. Combine that with a muzzle brake and you won't see much in terms of climb.
“Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should”
Words to live by.
i say it to my self when ever i see a place i could fit my finger in
Escape From Tarkov devs: "OOO! Free consultant!"
I love how this weapons expert describes each and every weapon and their effects on other players and how they should be used....awesome 😊.
unless someone has said so earlier, there is an 80 round drum mag for the makarov. it was made for police in russia where the pistol is still used
7:52 I'm surprised he missed this, but a minor detail the game gets wrong is that the front sight should not visible when using a scope. The scope can't focus on anything that is very close to the muzzle, and in real life, the front sight won't obstruct the sights picture.
so in real life is the iron sight really blurry or just invisible
@@willjepson7770 Based on my experience using an AR with a 3-9x optic, the front sight would be completely invisible. It has to do with how the lens warp light.
@KDC RunThat Was he using 1-power in the video? I'm not sure. Still, even with other scopes and higher power optics the front sight remains visible.
@@truedemoknight6784 this is specificaly a sv-98 problem. The front sight is correctly visible in the scope because he is using a wrong ring mount for the scope - a low profile one. If you use correct one this problem doesnt occur.
Oh forgot to mention the scope used in video is the EOtech Vudu which is 1-6x magnification.
The guns in rising storm Vietnam are interesting too
Yes please
A Russian inventor made an 85 round mag for the makarov, the pistol is still used in some places by Russian police because of how loved the gun is and the history it has. The 8 and 12 shot capacity were a major issue so he took it upon himself to create it but it is out there.
The creator of the game goes to the gun range and shoots many of the weapons in the game so of course he's going to try to recreate them in game as best as possible. Love it
"Drum mag in a pistol, which is pretty rare"
Chicago Rappers and Gang members: "Am I A Joke To You"
Anyone using a drum mag in a pistol is a joke, so...
They don't even use drums, they use extendos
They are probably not using a cold war PM sidearm from RU
@@sgtfoley2 nah they use drums too
@@apjmeredith you’d have to keep it in a stash spot no way u walking around with a whole drum
The fact he has to nitpick shows how good it is
4:57 literally the best moment so far lmao
I'm really curious on his opinion about the hellriegel from battlefield 1
I mean there’s only like 3 pictures of the real thing
@@Stonemask5 all from one side of the weapon to add onto that so we don’t even know what the other side of the weapon looks like.
@@Stonemask5 yeah exactly i wonder if he sees the "reproduction" of it any practical
The hellriegel was never a real production gun. Only a prototype.
@@Tjrissi96 Just imagine how much worse that dumpster fire of a game would have been if they only used guns that were in actual production!
This guy needs to go through these examples with a Tarkov streamer. He raises more questions for himself than he answers.
That cheeky smile with the AK made my day. Aha.
May i ask the sauce, please?
@@zikof5646 AA-12 from Girls Frontline and she's just snorting candy :)
@@JuJu._.._. I mean, it doesn't looks like it, but i'm taking your word for it
Firearms Expert: "Not quite sure why you'd put a drum magazine on a makarov..."
Meanwhile the Tarkov Reddit community: "look what I can do with the mini mosin"
The thing with the M4 seemingly unphasing the enemy is an issue of ammo. For some reason Tarkov treats low grade ammunition like a step above confetti, and high grade ammo as ultra deadly.
Can he analyse gameplay footage from Hunt: Showdown? That could be interesting for old weapons in XIXth century!
bruh
The guns are so good in escape from tarkov because the developers actually shot them irl.
"Or if your on drugs" *laughs in ssj and morphine*
I was looking for this! In tarkov everyone is on drugs... Low levels pop painkillers constantly and highlevel pop Morphine and SSJ.
Have him react to Rising Storm 2: Vietnam. It has very good models and some lesser known Vietnam War weapons.