You all wanted more Expert Reacts to Tarkov so here it is! There are still loads of guns in Tarkov to talk about so if you want a third part, be sure to comment. And if there are other games you'd like Jonathan to check out, be sure to leave those suggestions down below too!
Fun fact for Jonathan concerning the Mosin missing the front sight post/aperture - That's a common form of trolling in the game. When you kill someone, you take the front sight off their mosin and keep it, then throw the gun in a bush. They'll (probably) get the gun back in insurance, and not notice anything is wrong with it until they go into a raid with it and there's no front sight.
The clip was them playing as a scav, which you usually get busted guns with. Also, take off the rear sight instead of the front sight, not having a front sight on a mosin in-game you can still be pretty accurate but a missing rear sight is going to mess them up completely.
@@keithgraham8588 And you must Examine all parts that you want to use in modding. So he must level up to level 15, unlock Flea Market and examine all of the weapons and its parts. He doesn't need to buy them all, he can just open Flea Market, find a gun, right click and click Edit Preset then he does his stuff.
On a serious note. If any of you can get up to the Royal Armoury in Leeds when it's safe, do it. It's a brilliant museum and I can't wait to visit again.
@@jrj3505 I'm with it ... but as a die hard American I've seen quite a bit of firearms for it be cool to see how the historical culture varies from a subjugated nation to as I would say a free nation
I remember going up to see the museum like 15+ years ago ... absolutely amazing place... They were doing jousting demonstrations in their specially built yard...
I managed to go a couple of years ago, made the trip down specifically to see it. It's genuinely a wonderful museum that has an incredible collection with brilliant discussion. If you're from anywhere in mainland Britain, I suggest making a special trip specifically to visit the museum. If you're from the British Isles or Ireland, I suggest spending a few days in Leeds regardless because it is a lovely city with plenty to do but make sure it's on your list of activities while you're there. If you're coming to England/The UK from abroad and want to stay away from the trap of just seeing the South East of England and London, I recommend looking at visiting the North of England if you can - but again - make the Royal Armouries a top priority!
@@madswummelz902 Kedrs can load a 9x18mm PMM cartridge, but the game blocks from firing the gun because the gun is not suited to that high pressure round. You need a 9x18PMM SMG Klin to use that thing. Similar issues with VPO/MCX. You can load a mag in, but if the round does not match your barrel (i.e. trying to fire 7.62x39 from .366VPO), game stops you from firing that thing.
Jonathan: Finally plays Tarkov and spends days crafting his perfect AK Jonathan: Goes into raid with his shiny ak then gets sniped before firing 1 bullet
@@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries Oh ha, I didn't even realize it was you responding first. That's just another thing they got right, though... Simple is better! ;)
Just get some clips from that General Sam video. You know the one. And if that's not cursed enough, we could throw in some examples from the modded emulator version of Tarkov where the parts restrictions have been removed and you can literally put anything on anything.
Now I want to get m4 and attach peq 15s all over it so the gun is covered in peqs and there will be so much lasers it will look like nightclub dance floor
Yeah I kinda chuckled because my brain interpreted "most" as though he were making a knowing in-joke, but then remembered he hasn't actually played it.
"The original SVD is an 800m rifle..." Oh, good thing the one in-game has a shorter barrel and a folding stock, then... "... that means it could hit a target at 800m." Oh, that makes a lot more sense...
@@CertifiedGoonerMan Ok, so there seems to be some confusion about the Royal Armouries museum. It is not solely run and operated by Jonathan, he is part of a large team of experts who maintain specific collections therein. The donations all go to the Museum itself, not just the firearms section haha
@@takoshihitsamaru4675 Oooh ok, thank you for commenting that. I know the museum itself is not operated by Jonathan himself. I may have misinterpreted that
Just wait until Mr. Ferguson has a chat with Jaeger, he's got a mission for you...spoiler alert, I hope you like to engage targets with a bolt action within 25m
Fun fact about the ak in this game, you can use it without a magazine if you remove the dust cover, instead you just put in a bullet directly into the chamber, pretty cool that they even added that
If you put the wrong ammo in the gun goes red and won’t fire , you can do this with the air mags both 7,62 and .366 fit bit only fire in the right gun 👍
I picked up one of the 7.62 ak mags off of a scav and though I scored(cause I was completely out in my akms)but it turns it it had .336 geska and I died a few meters from the exit
@@antonhallergren588 and with the kedr-b which most people dont know about it can only take some 9x18 rounds and not others i think pmm is the one it dosnt like
"The mosin seems to be only good at range with a scope and the assault rifles surely have the advantage" yeah he has never just been one tapped with a mini mosin in the face and lost his tier 5 kit. RIP
Never played tarkov, so I could very well be wrong on this. But this seems to be a more economy thing than an actual usability thing. A sporterized mosin (what I'm guessing your "mini mosin" is referring to), should be a very, very cheap rifle. Lets say $100. Where something like a Sig MCX kitted would be around $3,500-$5,000 depending on optics. If the mosin can even beat out the Sig 1 out of 10 times, that still makes it 3.5-5x more cost effective in a game where lives don't matter. From these kind of statements about people CQB'ing with a mosin, this seems to be the gist of the tarkov economy - where cost effectiveness of loadout is far more important than life (I presume if you die, you lose your loadout, and maybe some sort of minor after effect). Where that's obviously not very realistic. I think what would make more sense, is if you die, you get perma-banned from the game. Of course, probably not fun from a game standpoint, but this I presume is why so many people are willing to CQB with a bolt action rifle, because death just doesn't matter beyond that one 15-30 minute session. Not because it's actually a good or even decent choice, but because it makes economic sense. In most games, and what I think Johnathan sees as the case in Tarkov as well, is that loadouts are not lost on round loss. So if you never lost that 5k MCX loadout when you do get popped by a sporterized mosin, do you really think sporterized mosins would be used as they are?
@@Cinjrak min mossin is not sportrised. İt is a mossin pistol. No but stock and ultra short barrel. Real stupid gun but it was used IRL. İmagin some one wipping out there concealed 7.62mm R Mosin from a jacket.
@@Andrewza1 That just makes it all the worse does it not? " İmagin some one wipping out there concealed 7.62mm R Mosin from a jacket." Yea, I can imagine that... and it sounds stupid as all hell. If rifle cartridges made sense in pistols, we would have pistols using rifle cartridges. But we don't, because... they don't. Yes, rifle cartridge pistols *do* exist, but they're kind of the rule 34 of firearms. If you can imagine it, someone has made it. But it makes even less sense outside of a game world. Thank you for clarifying what was being referred to, though it only makes the idea that much less practical.
I could listen to him talk about guns all day and I'm not even that interested in them aside from gaming. I greatly appreciate it when an expert is modest enough to admit it when he doesn't know something; it just goes to show that even people holding that much info still have something to learn.
Can we please stop for a moment and appreciate all the rare ww1 weapons behind him? The Chauchat mle 1915, the villar perosa m1915, the Bergmann mp18, the Beretta m1918, the Winchester m1895 and of course, Jonathan awesome shirt!
@@UyeGaming Do you realise how much money the Royal Armouries has? They could 100% put him in VR. They could afford developing their own VR system and they probably have a lot of the resources to as well.
As for the "does your gun blow up if you use the wrong ammo" question, I would think it would just highlight the gun in red and disallow its use like when you accidentally load a mag with .366 TKM and load it into a 7.62 AK
a Jonathan Ferguson mask and white cotton gloves as items in Tarkov would be great, finally we can roleplay the greatest tarkov player that never played tarkov
I think it would be unfair to judge a VR game because really if the guns are modeled and programmed well enough (which after 5 years, they definitely are), a lot more falls on the player to use the weapons realistically.
They acknowledged that they'll consider h3vr in the comments of the last tarkov video. Problem I see is there isn't enough silent commentary footage that will convey the amount of detail in h3vr, he probably won't find the detail due to lack of experience in h3vr, and because h3vr is such a niche game that I wouldnt expect the employees at game spot to help with conveying the details.
BattleState Games painstakingly model every individual part of the firearms they add in game, even when you can't see them, so they know everything is as realistic as possible
@Thomas Hockenberry with this approach they just leave it as it is - broken and silly. Also gun models are outsourced and they can just order a new one, made properly. Also a long time issue of AK stock not folding with rubber butpad on, and AK-47S under folder opening and closing trough drum mags.
@Thomas Hockenberry The dude’s talking out of his ass and shows when he tried bringing up “the long time issue.” Literally just making stuff up about the game development.
@@tsorevitch2409 Check to make sure it's the right stock on the FAL, also make sure there isn't a conflicting sight. A lot of sights now disable the ability to fold the gun. It's not something they plan to fix because it's not "broken". It's super inconvenient, having to take the PSO (for example) off of a gun to then fold it, though.
@@itsjustDog you can only mount optics on top rail and sidefolders do not conflict with sights mounted on top. as for PSO it actually block the ability to properly fold stocks on AKs. Also they didn't make AR style buffer tubes foldeble on AKs, Eve if you set them on a folding (in real life) converter
@@code.name.sasquatch Well, seeing as they only have the MCX in .300 Blackout currently, you cannot do that. There is another weapon you can do it with though. The Vepr-136 shoots 7.62x39 while the Vepr-209 shoots .366. They take the same mags, so you have to make sure the right ammo is loaded, or the gun won't fire.
I swear to god when he was talking about the Saiga, and said "It fits the CQB requirement", I misheard it as "It fits the cheekibreeki" with a british twist.
Great stuff as usual from Jonathan, easily my favourite videos on GS. I also watched Jonathan's lecture on British Military Bullpups which I highly recommend for anyone interested in that.
Within the next year or so tarkov is supposed to get an update where depending on what parts you use with your gun it may affect weapon failure and jamming. It would be cool to see what he thinks about that
"any bolt action rifle is gonna put you at a disadvantage, unless you were some distance away" - Jaeger would like a word with you about quest design...
12:37 the mcx takes 5.56x45 magazines but only shoots .300 blackout. catches a lot of people out when the go to shoot and realise they have a gun with essentially no ammo lol
I really appreciate that you brought in a guy who seems really in his element talking about guns. Too many other people bring in “experts” that have no idea what they are talking about. Keep up the great work!! 👌
I think they are teasing a battlefield 1 episode, because of the guns in the background, the mp18, the Automatico, the french mg (I don’t remember the name)
The issue with battlefield one is that the have all of these cool experimental guns in situations where they absolutely wouldn't have been in real life. It's one thing to say "oh cool they have experimental guns" but I feel like 90% of what he would have to say is that they're displayed incredibly unrealistically and in a really silly context.
9:35 Thanks God that he mentioned this. I'm going psycho of my friends telling me Black ops cold war is super realistic and all that. Tarkov is THE ONLY game that seriously gets the guns how they are supposed to be irl
This is amazing, i'd love to see more reactions to tarkov guns, but what i'd like even more is Jonathan trying the game a lil bit to have the "feeling" that the game gives you and get his opinion on it (not the feeling as in gameplay and skills, but the firing and gun moving feeling)
@Charlie Duncan The only gun that I can think of as completely fake is the avtomat but other than that while they might not have the real life names they all have a real life comparison
It would be cool if him and Pestily talked with each other. Since Pestily served in the Austrailian army and has tons of experience in the game that'll be cool where they can trade thoughts.
I just love hearing him Talk about how guns sound differently from each other I would love a third part (right now you can't change the barrel in the game for the mcx but BSG plans on adding that feature into the game)
As funny as it is to watch him react to the utterly bizarre weapons in video games such as the ones in TF2, the sight of him enjoying and praising a game for how detailed it is just hits really good.
I think that you should also review weapon jamming animations. In addition, in his own time I think he should see the gun stats menu (showing off ergonomics, hor. recoil, vert. recoil). He could view the machine gun and automatic grenade launcher emplacements on either the Customs map or Reserve. I also think maybe showing more varied enemies in footage; the content is likely done in offline mode, but I highly recommend showing bullet penetration power via engaging with scav bosses or their minions. Anyways, love your content hope Nikita blesses you!
you can actually stagger rounds in mags or shotgun tubes/mags which is kind of nice if youre causing bleed effect with high lethality(type) rounds while also cycling in AP rounds or slugs in the case of the sg in between shots/etc. Or even with 5.56 ammos its an interesting effect in full auto even though in real life there would be cycling/ejecting issues with various pressures in the system. Its an interesting "exploit" ive been doing Esp with the vector/burst. Just had to set a macro on my gaming device to quickly unstack ammo into stacks of 3 or single shells so i can make a rotating shot 12gauge drum mag.
from my own experimentation with the PSO scope in tarkov, even the ranging tool on it seems to work properly. which is very impressive since few games even realize what the lower portion is for
I play tarkov, and I can’t go back to playing games like cod because of how unrealistic they are Especially if we are talking about attachments, It just really bugs me that when you put a suppressor on your gun in cod you lose damage. Like wtf
I get the feeling, the satisfaction of each kill, the looting, the ballistics and the health system... once you go tarkov, you never go back..Also loved Anomaly
I think it's the thrill factor. You always have something to lose when you're dying, and even the very good player in the "lobby" can be taken out and you won't need to worry about them respawning and still just owning the match. Also there's so many ways to actually play the game and still get a successful evac that it doesn't force you to do the same thing over and over.
id feel the same way but i switch between games like arma 3 (obviously not like EFT) but the main point is realism and games like mw just because i like to enjoy that arcade like shooting mechanics every once and a while
I love hearing an expert talk about this great game in such detail. The SVDS does have some drop-off, pretty much the game feels like any round with 800+ m/ps muzzle velocity feels like it doesnt drop at a considerable distance, but once you drop down to 600-750 m/ps range you definitely have to aim a bit higher and lead shots more. the MCX (and the AKM/VPO KM) only have joint mags with the other caliber (so the MCX and M4 mags are the same with limitations of course) and the AKM 7.62x39 series weapons share the same mags with the .336 TKM rounds. The only real effect they have on the gun when feeding the incorrect ammo via the mags is the gun jams, forcing you to remove the bullet from the chamber. it would be cool to see some explosions though
I've been jumping around a lot in this series but the tarkov videos have been some of my favorites. After all the "horrors" Jonathan has seen it's nice that he gets to look at a game that clearly took a lot of care in making things as realistic as possible.
@@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries lmao, the man himself in the comments section and no one seems to have noticed. Keep up the good work, Jonathan! We love ya man, these vids are great to watch.
I would absolutely watch a third Tarkov Video! I would also LOVE to see what Jonathan's reaction to Hunt: Showdown's guns would be. The game is from 1890's period, with a few videogame style gimme's for a cool gun outside of the period, but its representation of the weapons and cartridge types feels really good to me.
Hey there. Something cool to know about escape from Tarkov is the ability load " the wrong rounds" into some magazines. While not as easy to do as in real life. You can currently (in the 12.9 patch) Load .366 TKM into 7.62x39 magazines, as well as .300 blk into 5.56.x45. While they do not currently have false headspacing , it will cause your weapon to "lock up" in game, and you must manually , drop the magazine, and remove the round from the weapon in order to clear it. They also have the Kedr sub machinegun, and Klin submachinegun. The Kedr will not function with +P 9x18 makarov ammunition's in game. As for bullet drop, its immersive but over exaggerated to give a better sense of distance. For example on average we're seeing about 40 CM of drop at 200m for 7.62x51 m80 being fired at 820m/s The zeroing system in tarkov is closer to a BDC turret set up than actual dialing. There are different animations for chamber clearing too, which you may find interesting. Weapon malfunctions are also in game, but are very very uncommon and unpolished at the current patch, requiring upwards of 4000 rounds before any ill effects/ stoppages are noticed. most folks never get passed 300 rounds for any given weapon.
To answer your question, no you cannot blow your gun up by loading a different caliber into the gun. It is not specifically with the mcx as in game it is only in the 300 blackout conversion. But there are other guns that use the same mags and bore and can load the same ammunition. Ex: vepr-vpo/136 and the molot vpo 209. Basically wrong ammo in wrong gun wont let you fire the gun in game. wont blow up but would be cool though.
You all wanted more Expert Reacts to Tarkov so here it is!
There are still loads of guns in Tarkov to talk about so if you want a third part, be sure to comment.
And if there are other games you'd like Jonathan to check out, be sure to leave those suggestions down below too!
Hey, maybe play it instead of checking its guns out?
@@das3610 that's not the point of the series my friend. Also, part 3 please!!!
@@PonkeyPoe Hey, who says he can’t check the guns out in real time? I think it would be fun to see
Ash-12, DVL, full auto glock, MP-7, RSASS, SR-25 ( shooting long range to show dropoff ) and the GL would be funny to see
Give him access to the game 😂
Fun fact for Jonathan concerning the Mosin missing the front sight post/aperture - That's a common form of trolling in the game. When you kill someone, you take the front sight off their mosin and keep it, then throw the gun in a bush. They'll (probably) get the gun back in insurance, and not notice anything is wrong with it until they go into a raid with it and there's no front sight.
The clip was them playing as a scav, which you usually get busted guns with. Also, take off the rear sight instead of the front sight, not having a front sight on a mosin in-game you can still be pretty accurate but a missing rear sight is going to mess them up completely.
@@arattactician5697 take both, become ungovernable
@@kerrrobertson3699 nah make the gun worse but still slightly usable
Oh god no...
never played tarkov but thats hilarious
The tarkov devs were given all the ak scans from kalishnakov, thats why they are practically 1:1 to real aks
Damn, huge kudos for the Concern for allowing them to scan the AKs
holy shit I did not know this!
@@marcusborderlands6177 will do! Thx for the info man.
@@marcusborderlands6177 the guns they are shooting look so nice, perhaps they will be in the game ?
@@bmhater1283 they let them shoot them, and not just AKs
Note to GameSpot: do NOT let Jonathan get a PC that can handle Tarkov. We might lose him to the modding menu.
yeah but you can't really mod anything unless you have a lot of money/parts. So he would still need to play.
@@keithgraham8588 exactly. He won't participate any videos
Ive lost myself there
@@keithgraham8588 And you must Examine all parts that you want to use in modding. So he must level up to level 15, unlock Flea Market and examine all of the weapons and its parts. He doesn't need to buy them all, he can just open Flea Market, find a gun, right click and click Edit Preset then he does his stuff.
On a serious note. If any of you can get up to the Royal Armoury in Leeds when it's safe, do it. It's a brilliant museum and I can't wait to visit again.
ooo that'd be worth a trip across the pond
@@jrj3505 I'm with it ... but as a die hard American I've seen quite a bit of firearms
for it be cool to see how the historical culture varies from a subjugated nation to as I would say a free nation
Agreed it's absolutely brilliant there.
I remember going up to see the museum like 15+ years ago ... absolutely amazing place... They were doing jousting demonstrations in their specially built yard...
I managed to go a couple of years ago, made the trip down specifically to see it. It's genuinely a wonderful museum that has an incredible collection with brilliant discussion. If you're from anywhere in mainland Britain, I suggest making a special trip specifically to visit the museum. If you're from the British Isles or Ireland, I suggest spending a few days in Leeds regardless because it is a lovely city with plenty to do but make sure it's on your list of activities while you're there. If you're coming to England/The UK from abroad and want to stay away from the trap of just seeing the South East of England and London, I recommend looking at visiting the North of England if you can - but again - make the Royal Armouries a top priority!
12:59
"I'd be very interested to know, if you can blow your MCX up."
Nikita: WRITE THAT DOWN!
Can you imagine making the Kedr/VPO mistake with the MCX, and your gun just fucking explodes in your hands.
@@TuffMelon my luck would be 4 pmcs gear and I go to shoot a scav and kill myself with it.
imagine using that as a trap. just drop it on the gorund and then wait for someone to pick it up and try to use it
@@TuffMelon tell me more, what do you mean?
@@madswummelz902 Kedrs can load a 9x18mm PMM cartridge, but the game blocks from firing the gun because the gun is not suited to that high pressure round. You need a 9x18PMM SMG Klin to use that thing.
Similar issues with VPO/MCX. You can load a mag in, but if the round does not match your barrel (i.e. trying to fire 7.62x39 from .366VPO), game stops you from firing that thing.
Jonathan: Finally plays Tarkov and spends days crafting his perfect AK
Jonathan: Goes into raid with his shiny ak then gets sniped before firing 1 bullet
This is exactly how it would go down.
Honestly from what I've seen from him, it's likely he'd do someone bare-bones and eminently functional over fancy.
Nah I reckon he'll have one that he just keeps "upgrading" but never using
@@tahvohck Ha, you are absolutely right.
@@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries Oh ha, I didn't even realize it was you responding first. That's just another thing they got right, though... Simple is better! ;)
tarkov developers must gift gaming pc to Jonathan after all his tarkov videos ))
In a hefty metal case too!
True! Trainfender needs to see this!
how can we get nikita to see this
@@biteme0973 Got him on the phone, he's thinking about it.
Lord Nikita will hear you and reach down from his duct tape fixed russian gaming chair, to hand you what you need
He’s lowkey the dude that sells his guns to John Wick
Yup. If they make another one, I'd be hard-pressed to choose between him and Ian to fill the "sommelier" role.
@@kevreeduk222
Indeed
@@kevreeduk222 both
Naww that goes to Ian McCollum
as an american i know more than this british guy, im also a former sot-7
Most people: 3 hours customizing a character
Mr. Ferguson: 300 hours in gun customization
Sooo that would take me 303 hours in total
@@陈凯文-n1h Hah, 303
literally me in battletech and tarkov... oh man battletech skirmish inventory unlock mods... let me just say it's in depth
You gotta show this guy some of the most unbelievably cursed builds people have come up with.
MOAR FLASHLIGHTS
Just get some clips from that General Sam video. You know the one.
And if that's not cursed enough, we could throw in some examples from the modded emulator version of Tarkov where the parts restrictions have been removed and you can literally put anything on anything.
Now I want to get m4 and attach peq 15s all over it so the gun is covered in peqs and there will be so much lasers it will look like nightclub dance floor
I was coming here to mention Sam but some other rat beat me to it
@@BackwardsPancake Don't know which one. Enlighten me please.
Jonathan's comes across as a really likable 'would-have-a-pint-with' kind of dude
*A lager maybe. Or a glass of water like you drink. But a pint of stout?*
He strikes me as the kind of professor that if you screw up you feel really ashamed of yourself for failing him.
I wouldn't mind going to the range with this dude.
Im the 666th like and I very much agree
We demand a part 3!
Deff , he is super chill and seems to know his shit.
If BSG don't buy this guy a PC and a copy of the game they're missing a trick
100%, and maybe a 2nd streaming capture pc
heck, get a deal with the devs to use the armory in a virtual arms display
How can we help promote his videos? I can post it on reddit but which sub would be the best?
@@AntonAdelson every sub
Why would they make him suffer
"Id imagine most players are using the Mosin as a sniper rifle"
*me in labs naked with a mosin and SNB at 2 am*
Yeah I kinda chuckled because my brain interpreted "most" as though he were making a knowing in-joke, but then remembered he hasn't actually played it.
Based
I could listen to him for hours. Hes got something interesting for every gun to say. Please try to make a series out of this.
It is a series. Also yeah he is quite impressive, he has lots to say about guns that are completely made up too
His voice really nice to hear to for some reason.
"The original SVD is an 800m rifle..."
Oh, good thing the one in-game has a shorter barrel and a folding stock, then...
"... that means it could hit a target at 800m."
Oh, that makes a lot more sense...
Proceeds to head eyes a group with 7n1 a kilometers away
Thanks for the unexpected giggle
Fuck sake mate! this comment had me howling for hours!
That had me rolling
I was always told it was an 800m rifle because the muzzle was 799m away
Jonathan should definitely start a youtube channel where he plays games and talks about the guns in them
People, unite and make this comment be seen by Jonathan! I beg you
Yeah, also he could use the revenue to maintain the museum itself.
@@CertifiedGoonerMan Ok, so there seems to be some confusion about the Royal Armouries museum. It is not solely run and operated by Jonathan, he is part of a large team of experts who maintain specific collections therein.
The donations all go to the Museum itself, not just the firearms section haha
@@takoshihitsamaru4675 Oooh ok, thank you for commenting that. I know the museum itself is not operated by Jonathan himself. I may have misinterpreted that
Honestly a gr8 idea. i dont know how much time he has on his hands to do this however. only time will tell
Yes, more of Jonathan. Could watch that guy all day.
Talking about the mosin:
"I'd assume people are using it as a sniper rifle"
In game:
O P A C H K I
*a wild mobrez appears*
Just wait until Mr. Ferguson has a chat with Jaeger, he's got a mission for you...spoiler alert, I hope you like to engage targets with a bolt action within 25m
Me: *Runs around with a mosin with a sawn-off stock, pistol grip, red-dot and a full length barrel with suppressor on factory*
@@MartinTraXAA Madlad.
🎶~mosin maaan~🎶
Fun fact about the ak in this game, you can use it without a magazine if you remove the dust cover, instead you just put in a bullet directly into the chamber, pretty cool that they even added that
“Spend most of your time customizing your guns”
You sure you haven’t played EFT yet?
lol
too true tbh, hes right its one of most satisfying things in the game to just spec out a gun how you like. it ruined other games that dont have it
@@AlphaSqad45 and then notice that you just blew another 2 million in the process
@@bldgl8723 and then you lose it 5 mins into the first raid to a guy you never saw.
@@bldgl8723 its so true, "budget build" is what your going for but you leave with Best in Slot build
“I imagine people are only using this at some distance”
LMAO
mmmm yes dorms and Mosin = perfect match for me
The mosin is definitely the best close quarters gun in the game
Yeah, they need to show him the Obrez... lol
Guess he never met Jeager..
The careless whisper is the perfect gun for him to see
If you put the wrong ammo in the gun goes red and won’t fire , you can do this with the air mags both 7,62 and .366 fit bit only fire in the right gun 👍
Same if you put 556 in the mcx
I picked up one of the 7.62 ak mags off of a scav and though I scored(cause I was completely out in my akms)but it turns it it had .336 geska and I died a few meters from the exit
@@khristianboulton7123 ouch feel your pain , Tarkov has been rough this wipe
@@antonhallergren588 and with the kedr-b which most people dont know about it can only take some 9x18 rounds and not others i think pmm is the one it dosnt like
@@theweakbeast7833 Yea, it really doesn't like the PMM. I know that since I tried to load that once. Didn't go well
"The mosin seems to be only good at range with a scope and the assault rifles surely have the advantage" yeah he has never just been one tapped with a mini mosin in the face and lost his tier 5 kit. RIP
that is why you wear a helmet, and if you can a killa mask.
Never played tarkov, so I could very well be wrong on this. But this seems to be a more economy thing than an actual usability thing. A sporterized mosin (what I'm guessing your "mini mosin" is referring to), should be a very, very cheap rifle. Lets say $100. Where something like a Sig MCX kitted would be around $3,500-$5,000 depending on optics. If the mosin can even beat out the Sig 1 out of 10 times, that still makes it 3.5-5x more cost effective in a game where lives don't matter. From these kind of statements about people CQB'ing with a mosin, this seems to be the gist of the tarkov economy - where cost effectiveness of loadout is far more important than life (I presume if you die, you lose your loadout, and maybe some sort of minor after effect).
Where that's obviously not very realistic. I think what would make more sense, is if you die, you get perma-banned from the game. Of course, probably not fun from a game standpoint, but this I presume is why so many people are willing to CQB with a bolt action rifle, because death just doesn't matter beyond that one 15-30 minute session. Not because it's actually a good or even decent choice, but because it makes economic sense. In most games, and what I think Johnathan sees as the case in Tarkov as well, is that loadouts are not lost on round loss. So if you never lost that 5k MCX loadout when you do get popped by a sporterized mosin, do you really think sporterized mosins would be used as they are?
@@Cinjrak min mossin is not sportrised. İt is a mossin pistol. No but stock and ultra short barrel. Real stupid gun but it was used IRL. İmagin some one wipping out there concealed 7.62mm R Mosin from a jacket.
@@DrakyHRT Mosin with SNB negates class 6 armour my dude, literally 6/6 chance to pierce level 6 armour.
@@Andrewza1 That just makes it all the worse does it not? " İmagin some one wipping out there concealed 7.62mm R Mosin from a jacket." Yea, I can imagine that... and it sounds stupid as all hell. If rifle cartridges made sense in pistols, we would have pistols using rifle cartridges. But we don't, because... they don't. Yes, rifle cartridge pistols *do* exist, but they're kind of the rule 34 of firearms. If you can imagine it, someone has made it. But it makes even less sense outside of a game world. Thank you for clarifying what was being referred to, though it only makes the idea that much less practical.
I could listen to him talk about guns all day and I'm not even that interested in them aside from gaming. I greatly appreciate it when an expert is modest enough to admit it when he doesn't know something; it just goes to show that even people holding that much info still have something to learn.
I'm a simple man. I see Jonathan, I click. I donated to the Royal Armouries after the last video! Great work you guys!
I wonder how much they've made from these vids
@@beardedchampion4321 hopefully enough to keep them operational during covid
Thanks Sean! Very much appreciated.
Can we please stop for a moment and appreciate all the rare ww1 weapons behind him? The Chauchat mle 1915, the villar perosa m1915, the Bergmann mp18, the Beretta m1918, the Winchester m1895 and of course, Jonathan awesome shirt!
That's the one reason i want him to review battlefield 1
I think Battlefield 1 will be an upcoming video in this series if those are anything to go off of.
He’s so good, he wrote a book for Gun Jesus’s publishing company.
How about that *gold-plated* SVD?
@@Spector_Cheese well battlefield 1's most popular gun wasn't ever used in a battle and no one has a picture of a working one lol
Let this man play Hot Dogs, Horseshoes and Hand Grenades. He's mentioned VR here, so he'll probably be surprised by the amount of detail.
Would be such a treat to see Jonathan in VR and him geeking out with the guns
@@aimannafeez2881 I think this game would be great, but it would be hard to get him in VR. You really have to be in VR to feel the guns.
@@UyeGaming Do you realise how much money the Royal Armouries has? They could 100% put him in VR. They could afford developing their own VR system and they probably have a lot of the resources to as well.
As for the "does your gun blow up if you use the wrong ammo" question, I would think it would just highlight the gun in red and disallow its use like when you accidentally load a mag with .366 TKM and load it into a 7.62 AK
Yo, Battlestate get this man a gaming rig or at least a copy of the game.
Yes
PLEASE DO THIS! .-.
I'd like to see Jonathan look over gameplay of Reciever. That game is entirely built on the mechanics of properly operating firearms.
Hard agree on that
Yeah that would be interesting!
After seeing Gman's review of those games, probably not.
dude hell yeah. receiver is such an overlooked game!!
a Jonathan Ferguson mask and white cotton gloves as items in Tarkov would be great, finally we can roleplay the greatest tarkov player that never played tarkov
Still so many firearms for him to look at in this game, still got the classics like the SKS and 1911 to the civilian version of the AK in
.366 TKM
or perhaps even the ADAR, MP5K-N, PP-19, and quite a few others.
@@frostsoul4199 i wanna see what he has to say about the hand held DAKKA machine, the PPSH
Dude the akm/vpo 366 is the bane of my existence
5:45 His smile as soon as the player starts shooting brings happiness to me
These videos could be 2 hours long and I would still watch them. Amazing.
I love Jonathan so much. He's such a down-to-earth kinda guy, very lovely hearing him talk ^.^
I think it would be cool if he looked at some VR stuff, like maybe Hot Dogs, Horseshoes, and Hand Grenades?
I think it would be unfair to judge a VR game because really if the guns are modeled and programmed well enough (which after 5 years, they definitely are), a lot more falls on the player to use the weapons realistically.
was just about to comment this after he said ''vr'', would be even better if we can get him to play some.
They acknowledged that they'll consider h3vr in the comments of the last tarkov video. Problem I see is there isn't enough silent commentary footage that will convey the amount of detail in h3vr, he probably won't find the detail due to lack of experience in h3vr, and because h3vr is such a niche game that I wouldnt expect the employees at game spot to help with conveying the details.
@@acedirt2346 We will try to make that happen...
even more incentive for him to get a gaming PC
"I'd assume most people are using this from far away" *Laughs in factory*
laughs in welyn at old gas station killing shturman or smth (my knowledge is shaky) with a bone stock full mosin
*Laughs in dorms*
@@oneflamey3234 reshala is the customs boss, shturman is the woods boss
@@_Moth_. Slick Altyn is the Factory boss
Someone needs to show him the full flashlight build guns in tarkov
Perhaps the famous careless whisper?
@@trapper69420 in-famous)))
6:52 LOL HE FR PUT IN THE LVNDMARK SETUP
YOU ARE A LEGEND LOL
BattleState Games painstakingly model every individual part of the firearms they add in game, even when you can't see them, so they know everything is as realistic as possible
They can't make collapsible stock on FAL actually collapse for more than a year now.
@Thomas Hockenberry with this approach they just leave it as it is - broken and silly.
Also gun models are outsourced and they can just order a new one, made properly.
Also a long time issue of AK stock not folding with rubber butpad on, and AK-47S under folder opening and closing trough drum mags.
@Thomas Hockenberry The dude’s talking out of his ass and shows when he tried bringing up “the long time issue.” Literally just making stuff up about the game development.
@@tsorevitch2409 Check to make sure it's the right stock on the FAL, also make sure there isn't a conflicting sight. A lot of sights now disable the ability to fold the gun. It's not something they plan to fix because it's not "broken". It's super inconvenient, having to take the PSO (for example) off of a gun to then fold it, though.
@@itsjustDog you can only mount optics on top rail and sidefolders do not conflict with sights mounted on top. as for PSO it actually block the ability to properly fold stocks on AKs.
Also they didn't make AR style buffer tubes foldeble on AKs, Eve if you set them on a folding (in real life) converter
12:58 I would love that ! Sadly it's separated as caliber version, in everygun. Like Kriss Vector 9mm and with .45 ACP exists as different weapon.
But since you have to load ammo manually and they use the same mags, can you load 300 blk into a 5.56 MCX even though they count as different guns?
@@code.name.sasquatch the game lets you load the magazine but you can't fire the gun with incorrect caliber ammo in it
@@code.name.sasquatch Well, seeing as they only have the MCX in .300 Blackout currently, you cannot do that. There is another weapon you can do it with though. The Vepr-136 shoots 7.62x39 while the Vepr-209 shoots .366. They take the same mags, so you have to make sure the right ammo is loaded, or the gun won't fire.
I just realized this dude looks like an older Call Me Kevin. The resemblance is uncanny.
turg
Holy hell you are right! Also a more serious version of him haha
Bore Ragnarok, am I right guys?
Gotta love the golden dragunov behind him.
I swear to god when he was talking about the Saiga, and said "It fits the CQB requirement", I misheard it as "It fits the cheekibreeki" with a british twist.
Jonathan: 12 gauge has a fair amount of recoil.
AA12: Hold my beer.
Great stuff as usual from Jonathan, easily my favourite videos on GS.
I also watched Jonathan's lecture on British Military Bullpups which I highly recommend for anyone interested in that.
He's got an entire book on the subject of British Military Bullpups, by the way.
@@F1ghteR41 Yeah I will need to order myself a copy.
Where does one find the video of the lecture?
@@PSNGormond Is it still in stock? I thought it was all bought up a long time ago. Good luck anyway!
Keep this series coming indefinitely please! Fascinating hearing Jonathan breakdown the guns we all know and love from gaming 💚
Mosin "I imagine most people will use it as a Siping rifle" in the distance; "*Mooooosin Maaaan*"
I love this series, its so insightful, it gives Tarkov some love, and most importantly it gives Royal Armouries assistance as well!
He's like an American who drank too much Earl Gray.
Lmao
Hahaha!!!
😂that cracked me
uh no, other way around. British are the forefathers of americans
Im surprised his very existence isnt illegal in europe...
Within the next year or so tarkov is supposed to get an update where depending on what parts you use with your gun it may affect weapon failure and jamming. It would be cool to see what he thinks about that
"any bolt action rifle is gonna put you at a disadvantage, unless you were some distance away" - Jaeger would like a word with you about quest design...
12:37 the mcx takes 5.56x45 magazines but only shoots .300 blackout. catches a lot of people out when the go to shoot and realise they have a gun with essentially no ammo lol
Big respect to this guy. Comes across both knowledgeable in firearms and has video game experience.
Continue to pay him for his time. Protect him at all cost. Gem.
Battlestate Games actually has most of the guns in the game hanging on a wall in the studio
Definitely want a 3rd tarkov episode!
he needs to see the odd side of the weapon customization like dvl no stock the short mosin or a bunch of other stupid gun designs
I really appreciate that you brought in a guy who seems really in his element talking about guns. Too many other people bring in “experts” that have no idea what they are talking about. Keep up the great work!! 👌
tarkov in VR sounds amazing and terrifying lmao
Factory in a night raid, or even better, a run in with cultists...
Pavlov VR has a very well made clone of Factory (before the expansion) and boy it's crazy fun to play.
Jonathan is amazing to listen to, and his knowledge of firearms is awesome to be given to us
It would be great for him to look at Squad/Post Scriptum or Battlefield stuff
I think they are teasing a battlefield 1 episode, because of the guns in the background, the mp18, the Automatico, the french mg (I don’t remember the name)
@@tancrediagriesti8418 the chauchat was also there in several other videos of his though lol, also its in Battlefield V as well
What about beyond the wire?
I think battlefield 1 would be really cool lots of experimental cools there.
Judging by the "chuchat" (excuse my French) behind him, I think it might happen
@@yahyamusseb yeah the Chauchat also there's quite a few old bolt action rifles to the left of him so 🤷♂️
@@alexhicks6207 plus the Villar Perosa on top of the table to the right and the mp-18
I think it's the next episode because of the firearms behind him (Chauchat, MP-18, Automatico 1918, the Russian Lever Action Rifle, and others)
The issue with battlefield one is that the have all of these cool experimental guns in situations where they absolutely wouldn't have been in real life. It's one thing to say "oh cool they have experimental guns" but I feel like 90% of what he would have to say is that they're displayed incredibly unrealistically and in a really silly context.
9:35
Thanks God that he mentioned this. I'm going psycho of my friends telling me Black ops cold war is super realistic and all that. Tarkov is THE ONLY game that seriously gets the guns how they are supposed to be irl
Dude if anyone says COD is realistic tell me and I’ll pull up
(jk jk)
SQUAD gets guns equally well. It's just that Tarkov has customization, while SQUAD generally sticks to standard issue.
@@sujimayne oof
I see your game and raise you Hotdogs Horseshoes & Hand Grenades.
This is amazing, i'd love to see more reactions to tarkov guns, but what i'd like even more is Jonathan trying the game a lil bit to have the "feeling" that the game gives you and get his opinion on it (not the feeling as in gameplay and skills, but the firing and gun moving feeling)
How about trying Hunt: Showdown?
The time-period is unique and the attention to detail there is nothing to gloss over.
@Charlie Duncan The base models in Hunt are all real, the modified versions are not necessarily realistic but most are plausible modifications.
@Charlie Duncan The only gun that I can think of as completely fake is the avtomat but other than that while they might not have the real life names they all have a real life comparison
@@pizzatime3637 Fedorov avtomat is a real Russian firearm technically the first assault rifle TH-cam it
@@mrmadmax4523 it's not an assault weapon, it lacks fire control group
@@mrmadmax4523 They arent talking about the fedorov. The avtomat in hunt showdown is a modified full auto mosin
"I'd spent most of the time in [the gun Smith] instead of shooting anything"
True
Somebody give this man a gaming rig. I could listen to him all day 😁
A third episode would be amazing! There's soooo many more guns for him to explore!
It would be cool if him and Pestily talked with each other. Since Pestily served in the Austrailian army and has tons of experience in the game that'll be cool where they can trade thoughts.
Enough with pestily plz...need more content not the same tired ass content.
What a lovable guy, sure, I'ld like to see him review the rest of Tarkov's arsenal.
I just love hearing him Talk about how guns sound differently from each other
I would love a third part
(right now you can't change the barrel in the game for the mcx but BSG plans on adding that feature into the game)
As funny as it is to watch him react to the utterly bizarre weapons in video games such as the ones in TF2, the sight of him enjoying and praising a game for how detailed it is just hits really good.
I used to work with Jonathan at the Armouries years back. Genuinely nice chap and really knows his stuff.
good
"This is Jonathan Ferguson and he's the only reason people are subscribed to our channel."
As a gun nerd myself I love this guy. I spend alot of my tarkov time on the modding screen as well.
It is there to be used i enjoy it aswell
I think that you should also review weapon jamming animations. In addition, in his own time I think he should see the gun stats menu (showing off ergonomics, hor. recoil, vert. recoil). He could view the machine gun and automatic grenade launcher emplacements on either the Customs map or Reserve. I also think maybe showing more varied enemies in footage; the content is likely done in offline mode, but I highly recommend showing bullet penetration power via engaging with scav bosses or their minions. Anyways, love your content hope Nikita blesses you!
Both the UMP and the Kriss Vector were also made in 10mm, so IRL they've got increased distance and lethality over the .45 ACP versions.
you can actually stagger rounds in mags or shotgun tubes/mags which is kind of nice if youre causing bleed effect with high lethality(type) rounds while also cycling in AP rounds or slugs in the case of the sg in between shots/etc. Or even with 5.56 ammos its an interesting effect in full auto even though in real life there would be cycling/ejecting issues with various pressures in the system. Its an interesting "exploit" ive been doing Esp with the vector/burst. Just had to set a macro on my gaming device to quickly unstack ammo into stacks of 3 or single shells so i can make a rotating shot 12gauge drum mag.
Jonathan just has that made-for-youtube wit, voice, and knowledge. Love these videos
from my own experimentation with the PSO scope in tarkov, even the ranging tool on it seems to work properly. which is very impressive since few games even realize what the lower portion is for
I want him to see the customised guns with like a forest of sights on top, and the other extreme setups
I play tarkov, and I can’t go back to playing games like cod because of how unrealistic they are
Especially if we are talking about attachments, It just really bugs me that when you put a suppressor on your gun in cod you lose damage. Like wtf
I get the feeling, the satisfaction of each kill, the looting, the ballistics and the health system... once you go tarkov, you never go back..Also loved Anomaly
I think it's the thrill factor. You always have something to lose when you're dying, and even the very good player in the "lobby" can be taken out and you won't need to worry about them respawning and still just owning the match.
Also there's so many ways to actually play the game and still get a successful evac that it doesn't force you to do the same thing over and over.
id feel the same way but i switch between games like arma 3 (obviously not like EFT) but the main point is realism and games like mw just because i like to enjoy that arcade like shooting mechanics every once and a while
I think the reason for the damage malus is the implied use of subsonic rounds.
@@JohnDoe-zh6cp believe it or not, just because a certain type of ammo is subsonic, does not mean it does less damage
I love hearing an expert talk about this great game in such detail. The SVDS does have some drop-off, pretty much the game feels like any round with 800+ m/ps muzzle velocity feels like it doesnt drop at a considerable distance, but once you drop down to 600-750 m/ps range you definitely have to aim a bit higher and lead shots more. the MCX (and the AKM/VPO KM) only have joint mags with the other caliber (so the MCX and M4 mags are the same with limitations of course) and the AKM 7.62x39 series weapons share the same mags with the .336 TKM rounds. The only real effect they have on the gun when feeding the incorrect ammo via the mags is the gun jams, forcing you to remove the bullet from the chamber. it would be cool to see some explosions though
I've been jumping around a lot in this series but the tarkov videos have been some of my favorites. After all the "horrors" Jonathan has seen it's nice that he gets to look at a game that clearly took a lot of care in making things as realistic as possible.
enjoy watching someone that knows firearms talk about one of my favorite games, Part 3 please!
05:12 you know he is dangerous when he wears skull ring
Oh no, I'm not at all dangerous. But I do like skulls :)
@@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries lmao, the man himself in the comments section and no one seems to have noticed.
Keep up the good work, Jonathan! We love ya man, these vids are great to watch.
Honestly I could just listen to this guy describe specifics of gun components all day.
I really love these series with Mr. Ferguson, Special the Tarkov ones! hope there's more coming!
I just wanna say that I love watching these videos with Jonathan Ferguson, he's a wonderful host.
The way this dude can just look at a gun shooting and instantly know the exact gun is amazing
A gun: *fires*
John: yup that’s accurate
I would absolutely watch a third Tarkov Video! I would also LOVE to see what Jonathan's reaction to Hunt: Showdown's guns would be. The game is from 1890's period, with a few videogame style gimme's for a cool gun outside of the period, but its representation of the weapons and cartridge types feels really good to me.
Hey there.
Something cool to know about escape from Tarkov is the ability load " the wrong rounds" into some magazines.
While not as easy to do as in real life. You can currently (in the 12.9 patch) Load .366 TKM into 7.62x39 magazines, as well as .300 blk into 5.56.x45.
While they do not currently have false headspacing , it will cause your weapon to "lock up" in game, and you must manually , drop the magazine, and remove the round from the weapon in order to clear it.
They also have the Kedr sub machinegun, and Klin submachinegun. The Kedr will not function with +P 9x18 makarov ammunition's in game.
As for bullet drop, its immersive but over exaggerated to give a better sense of distance. For example on average we're seeing about 40 CM of drop at 200m for 7.62x51 m80 being fired at 820m/s
The zeroing system in tarkov is closer to a BDC turret set up than actual dialing.
There are different animations for chamber clearing too, which you may find interesting.
Weapon malfunctions are also in game, but are very very uncommon and unpolished at the current patch, requiring upwards of 4000 rounds before any ill effects/ stoppages are noticed.
most folks never get passed 300 rounds for any given weapon.
The bullet drop in this game is on the bottom right of the screen, in 11:10 you can se "50" wich means that until 50 meters the bullet won't drop
Part 3 please and get this man a PC/copy of Tarkov stat. I'd enjoy watching him "fiddle" in the armory screen. Cheers!
This guy is the coolest nerd who ever touched a gun
You just forgot to put "shitload of" between the "a" and "gun".
Him: customizeing guns is a game in itself
All those guns app: this is when the big bucks start rolling in
Make a whole series of Jonathan reacting to all of Tarkov’s guns please! More of these!
To answer your question, no you cannot blow your gun up by loading a different caliber into the gun. It is not specifically with the mcx as in game it is only in the 300 blackout conversion. But there are other guns that use the same mags and bore and can load the same ammunition. Ex: vepr-vpo/136 and the molot vpo 209. Basically wrong ammo in wrong gun wont let you fire the gun in game. wont blow up but would be cool though.