Props to them for listening and changing the product a lil bit, but I think the Thief showcase illustrated it was a bit of a lazy fix. The darks in the new version of thief look so awful. It feels like they literally just turned up the brightness or removed all the saturation. Idk, seems like $190 you could’ve put towards a retrotink 4K😂
I felt like this too? I felt like the darkness in the original footage for thieves actually looked more realistic for how dark it would really look? The updated version just looks like they turned up the brightness?! Which better in terms of you can see more, but it looks worse as far as you don’t have those inky blacks no more ..
That Steve Harenberg clip you showed of the LAN party of Xbox systems is exactly what it used to look like. Lugging a 27" CRT to your buddy's house, having nowhere to put it except on the floor in the middle of the room, and connecting 3 or 4 Xbox systems together was somehow worth it. lol
Yup!! me and my buddies used to go over to this guy’s house whenever his parents were gone and we would have LAN cables going out the bedroom window upstairs and coming in the kitchen window downstairs run into another group of Xboxes!! Those were the days !
I can see what EON was trying to accomplish here but you're absolutely correct in saying that, despite all of its functionality and its improved video signal handling, it is still WAY too expensive. The extra functionality it packs can all be bought cheaper by going with separate devices. Want two or more HDMI outputs for this thing? Get a good quality HDMI Splitter or even a small Matrix Switcher which will cost $20-$40 max. Want to be a masochist like me and hook a bunch of Xbox machines together via LAN for System Link? Some CAT 5 cables for a few bucks and a simple 5-port Ethernet switch for under $20 or an old used router. Any of those will get the job done no problem. Even if you wanted ALL of these features at once and combined it with the Xbox2HDMI or even a Xedusa+ for the occasional Xbox power user, the combined total for all of those devices would STILL be less than EON's machine. The price for this thing has only one reason behind it: EON is used to charging $150+ for all of their products ever since they made the GameCube adapters and hoped that it would stick with the N64 and Xbox adapters. Spoiler alert: it doesn't...
In my experience setting up the color and brightness for tvs, crt tvs mainly but flat screens as well, the end result is always darker than you would expect. Think of every game that shows the 3 images side by side and tells you to move the slider until you can't see the first imag3 and barely can see the middle. I never do that, since the game ends up being too dark for me. The majority of people don't like the correct color and darkness, but prefer a brighter washed out image. The thief side by side showed probably closer to the correct image on the darker old side, and the new bright side was washed out and too bright. Thief is a dark game, it's supposed to look like that.
Thief looked awful on the new one, it completely washed out the dark areas to grey. It didn't even reveal any new detail you couldn't see before. It's just objectively worse. The original needed to bump the brightness like 20-30% but what they did feels passive aggressive. "You want it brighter? FINE!"
@@devilmikey00Nothing to do with any of what you guys are saying, it's a black level problem with the TV, the "washed out" Thief footage is the correct one, you can obviously change your TV settings to adjust it
I actually do not like a “washed out” look.. I want it to be as clear as it can possibly be, but at the same time, not being so bright that the picture looks washed out, but also not being so dark to wear that when I get in shaded areas, I can’t see anything! It just means that sometimes I’m changing my settings in the middle of a game ? Some games, struggle with this more than others, obviously.. Edit: My “smart” phone is responsible for any words spelled incorrectly-
But this isn't about your preferences, the darker look of the v1 adapter was an error, that's the entire point, it crushed blacks thus the details@@turismofoegaming8806
I just wanted to take the time to say thank you for keeping this channel consistent with its focus. You’ve done amazing work on these videos. Unfortunately there are channels out there that change their focus for views but you’ve never stirred away.
Thanks for showing the new vs old HDMI converter! I just use quality component cables with my modded original Xbox with pre-2016 Samsung TV's still utilizing component inputs.
I wish I found this vid sooner! I bought an Xbox HDMI "Adapter" for cheap on Amazon and could not figure out why the lighting on-screen was so dark! I had to crank the brightness on my TV just to see anything. Thanks for plugging a quality HDMI adapter!
WOW...they are thinking way out the box on that price point LOL..The other one you demonstrated was identical and more in line of what someone would want to spend.
Consistently Eon's market strategy has been to make cheap but flashy products based on existing tech, charge basically double what most other solutions cost (no exaggeration), and then use marketing to make themselves by far the most immediately visible product for people who aren't familiar with all the options.
It's funny because I just purchased an original Xbox and was looking into an HDMI solution and I ended up ordering the Xbox2HDMI from Electron Shepard and when I saw this pop up I was like oh no did I make a mistake but glad to see I made the right choice for what I want to do. Thanks and love your videos!
Personally EON as a brand I don't recommend any of their products. I ordered the Gamecube one and I had to get it replaced like 3x times because they kept sending me faulty units because the one of the plugs was always bent. I got really frustrated with them that I decided I would just save up to buy the official component cables because at least those will work. The dual output is nice but there is other devices that you may end up getting if you need to have that feature and it will be used on other systems as well. So ya I agree, don't buy this adapter! There is other cheaper and equally as good options out there.
I do like that it has a 3.5mm jack. There are a lot of monitors that have an audio delay or fade the audio out when it's quiet. Having the ethernet ports would be handy as well and provides an all in one solution, though I think most people would have a switch that should be able to handle that task, but maybe not. Dual HDMI out ports could be handy for cards that don't support passthrough. There's also the remote possibility that future capture cards don't do passthrough either. I imagine having dual hdmi out's would be handy for tournament spaces where one screen could be put up on the big monitor and one on the main play screen or even the possibility of still doing a streaming setup with said tournament setup. I do think most people would appreciate the cheaper option though. Assuming it has the quality to last.
Thank you for recommending the Xbox 2 HDMI. I couldn't find them anywhere. I used the link from this video and they're making a newer version of it. I mentioned your channel when I bought one. Thanks again man! I almost bought some expensive component cords.
You should make an updated comparison video for these adapters. Insurrection industries Carby in my opinion is the best option for people who just want that digital output out of their GameCube. It's half the price of what the EON adapter too. We need to bring more awareness to these cheaper products to the public. Not everyone want dual output or Ethernet ports. There's no need to charge double for features that are not needed
i'd say this kind of device is perfect for lan-parties where each device has to be also split and streamed without going to pass-through since pass-through introduces lots of issues on various capture cards, but i'd say you could built a set up that is marginally cheaper than buying this adapter.
I mean, if you need to split the console output to monitor and streaming box; you can get a HDMI 2.0 splitter/mirror box (1 input, 2 outputs) that does 4K60 for like $40 AUD (about $25-30 USD), or get a 1080p60 splitter for like $15-20 AUD ($10-15 USD). For the multi-console streamers; Pair that with a 5-way HDMI switch (5 inputs, 1 output) and you can hook up 5 consoles to the same screen/streaming setup without the hassle of swapping cables around (eg: hook a OG Xbox, X360, XB1 and Xbox Series S/X to the switch, feed the switch to the splitter and enjoy lag-free HD gaming with no upscalers whilst streaming to Twitch et all). I have such a setup where I have my PS3 Super Slim, PS4 Pro, XB1S, WiiU and VitaTV/PSTV set up with a Switch/Splitter combo (with an older HDMI 1.3 splitter) so I can game on my 24" 1080p60 LCD TV and capture the footage on my streaming PC without passthrough lag from the capture card.
I have no problem telling the good and bad of a product like I did in WOWCube, Warrior 64 and PlayDate, etc... but I also don't spin every review as a "scam!" or overly negative when it doesn't need to be either. Keep it fair and professional.
Mainly an retro pc gamer here but thinking about getting either an OG xbox or xbox 360. Whichever one I get thanks so much for the info it will come in handy!
I really like the aesthetics of the Xbox 2 HDMI adapter. It looks a lot like the Wii 2 HDMI adapter. Just one piece and it’s super simple. Looks great on screen too.
just purchased the xbox2hdmi a couple weeks ago and the picture is very good. had to change the tv settings just a touch but looks amazing. i would of preferred to hard mod it but i do not play the system enough to justify the cost to have it done. please do a electron shepherd wii2hdmi review. im on the fence of purchasing that dongle as well
I go very cheap and pick up a HDMI converter for $20 but i still prefer playing my original Xbox on a old school tv from the early 2000s because thats how some of us who were kids back in those days grew up. We didnt had no fancy way playing games and we thought xbox was a beast. For myself i feel when you use an hdmi port on a old console like xbox, ps2, GameCube, etc youre losing out on your gaming experience and nostalgia
My interest in the original Xbox was definitely renewed back last year when I discovered my original Xbox still down in the bottom of my closet!!! so I dug the old bastard out and came to the realization that all I had was a power cord but it powered on!! A few months later, I ordered myself some cables and some controllers, about the nastiest and abused cables and controllers you ever seen! Both controllers missing the rubber piece on the analog stick, both controller cords, twisted beyond sanity?!?! But all of it worked?!? Which brings us to now where I have just ordered me a black S controller that is in brand new condition and still has the grip on it?!?! I ordered a composite to HDMI adapter, but it doesn’t make it look any better at all and so I’m definitely going to be getting the one featured in this video via electron Shepherd!! I still have both my copy to Halo and Halo to as well as King Kong and from Russia with love and Tony Hawk pro skater for Tony Hawk, 2X and a bunch of other games that I’m gonna start playing again! Thank you for this video. Excellent work!!
I got into Xbox in the 360 era, and only recently got an OG Xbox because while I never owned one, they do rock and (for now) you can get some versions of games that are normally going for a lot on the PS2 for cheaper.
me personally I would recommend monster component cables hooked up to an upscaler but I understand that’s not gonna be for everyone, that can get really expensive
The original Xbox was the bee's knees I remember being an avid PS2 owner and collector at the time of the PlayStation 2 going over to a friend's house and seeing the Xbox running Halo and have been playing on Xbox ever since need I say more the original Xbox was an absolute Beast of a console every game look incredible I mean it looked way ahead of its time the review is awesome and I'm definitely looking forward to purchasing some of these devices to see which one is the best for me cuz I have around 200 games for the original Xbox and I would definitely like to see it in HDMI
I agree! They are just trying to justify their high price. I don't need two HDMI ports, audio out and three ethernet cables. I just want one HDMI out and that's it! Much cheaper.
Thank you for being honost as usual. It is too expensive imo. And cool to see CLZ sponsoring you. I‘m using this killer app for sooo many years now. Love it
For my setup, I'm using the Official OEM Original XBOX High Definition AV Pack with the HD Retrovision Male-to-Male cable going into the Retrotink-5X Pro. In my opinion, that's most likely the way I'm gonna get the best-looking picture quality. Even without the Retrotink-5X Pro, those HD Retrovision Cables are amazing.
I feel like they built this specifically for streamers and lan parties and not for the casual audience who just want a cheap plug and play solution. $190 for that is outrageous
For me, I bounce between the Retrotink 5X and the Pound cable connected to an mClassic. I never owned any XB consoles until a few years ago and I love it.
Hey MJR! Did you notice any flickering with the XBOX2HDMI? The hyperkin model sometimes does - Mainly on sports games that are 16:9 and have quick 480p-only menus that pop up
Anyone remember the video where MJR was hooking up old consoles to his CRT via HDRetrovision? I have been looking for that video, but cannot find it anywhere.
I really like the Super 64 EON I have but absolutely adore the spice orange GC EON the company put together for me when I couldn't find an affordable on online thanks to scalpers! I so I love the company but you're right about the cost of these. While it's cool that EON makes them to match specific consoles I see this as a bonus not a feature. The upscaling is where it's at and what most are looking for. Not sure what puts them in that price range but bet if they focused more on function rather than form and lowered the cost by $50-$80 they'd probably sell a lot more but I'm not a market researcher and so what do I know! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I have always loved your content, and btw, still do. I guess youtube gaming content is getting fluded. But, you are a main stay on here and fit into a comfort zone place for dudes, 40 and up at least. I like when you show tech content like setting up older systems and adaptors needed. Keep giving us and pushing the older consoles and how to begin setting a a SNES if you are a kid or, teen, even adult. Im still trying to get my LG TV to connect via Steam deck with my Wii motion sensor with og Wii motes. Its a lot, but I can figure it out. But you should mix and match things.
I mean is it technically the best hdmi solution for the xbox? Yeah probably. Is it worth the price? Yeah, definitely not lol, i agree with you pretty much, the xbox2hdmi is a quarter of the price and has identical image quality, which is all most people really care about, dual hdmi and lan connections are just so niche, and even with those additions, this shouldn't be more than 100 bucks. If they basically put an mclassic inside the adapter to have an optional upscaling mode then MAYBE itd be worth the price, but even then, itd be better to just have a separate upscaler for multiple systems. Yeah idk i just really cant justify or recommend it outside of maybe a professional setting, or maybe if you really love the original xbox and it goes on sale or something
luckily my hdtvs have component input, so I can use the og component cables for both Xbox and run it at 720p. (component,, not AV. Component has all the different color plugs, not the yellow, red and white.)
I had been looking at the Hyperkin cable for my Dreamcast. Maybe I'll consider another solution after showing how dark the XBOX version was. Definitely going to look into the Electronic Shepherd solution instead.
I don’t know if it really looks “better”. The new version seems to have gone too far in the other direction and at least over capture, the picture looks a little blown out? Thanks for the update!
The OG Xbox was a worthy adversary in the 6th gen of games. As far as third party games are concerned, they were best played on the OG Xbox with max quality and performance. The Xbox2Hdmi seems like a good investment and the best substitute from Hyperkin and EON. Thanks again, MJR!!! 🤘
The brighter footage looks really washed out to me. I almost prefer the darker version. I use the OSSC though for original Xbox so I prefer that tenfold to this option.
I am still looking for a cheap HDMI output that uses an external power supply. My Xbox's 5v rail is weak and full of interference... so when the device uses the onboard rail, I get all sorts of weird rolling bars and junk.
to me the biggest issue with original xbox is the aging hardware itself. They are getting to the point they literally don't work due to many issues like, leaky clock battery, clunky disc drive, failing hard drives. What we really need is a device that will play the games with HDMI built in like poly mega. Yes I know you can repair and upgrade them, but that is beyond my capability (hdmi mods), and I am not going to pay absurd money for someone to restore/upgrade one. Its fun to have an OG xbox, but I'm not going to throw piles of money at it. If anybody has found a good path forward I'd love to hear about it.
the thief comparison between the old and the new revision is just absolutely horrendous, the new revision ruins the colors and atmosphere. the gamma is cranked up way too high, almost as if that was their solution- a shoddy band-aid fix
Isn't the GameCube adaptor the thing that fried one of your consoles? I know they came up with an updated version of that as well, but man they seem to never get it right on the first try 😅
Did they just added a gamma boost to the chain without fixing the actual problem? I only ask because the Thief comparison just went from bad to worse by changing the dark grays to light grays. Pretty sure the game is SUPPOSED to be dark but without the black crush from the old EON.
Just getting into xbox ownership/collecting, just running component cables for the moment, but am looking at the Electron Shephard product eventually...but to get one shipped to where I live im looking at over $100 but seeing it compared to others it seems worth it.
In my honest opinion, NOTHING compares to XBOX2HDMI in simplicity and accomplishing its purpose for a R-E-A-S-O-N-A-B-L-E price. XBOX2HDMI is perfect...
I like how MetalJesus is always honest about his reviews of products. I really appreciate your candidness.
OG Xbox was insane back in the day, Doom 3, Deus Ex Invisible War, Half Life 2, Halo 1&2.. Such great games and memories!
All still fun to play today 👍
@@MetalJesusRocksI’m surprised you haven’t made a video on insignia yet, soooo many excellent games already added
Doom 3 was a huge leap for me when I was a kid, the horror aspect of it made me scared to play it alone.
It was great but they were losing a lot of money making the systems. I wish that it would have lasted a bit longer 😢
I'm sorry I thought you said great games and you listed invisible war lol
What a great video! I'm so happy to hear that you've had a positive experience with my Xbox2HDMI! ⚡
You’re doing the Lord’s work, my friend. 🙏
I will be ordering one of these from you guys next month!!
I just bought mine before you went out of stock on March 23rd . This video helped me make this decision so can’t wait till it gets shipped out !
@@camilo05191 hell yeah man, I’m happy for you!! I hope they have some here in a few days because I am definitely getting one of these!!
Looking for the restock... and getting mine!!
Props to them for listening and changing the product a lil bit, but I think the Thief showcase illustrated it was a bit of a lazy fix. The darks in the new version of thief look so awful. It feels like they literally just turned up the brightness or removed all the saturation. Idk, seems like $190 you could’ve put towards a retrotink 4K😂
I felt like this too? I felt like the darkness in the original footage for thieves actually looked more realistic for how dark it would really look? The updated version just looks like they turned up the brightness?!
Which better in terms of you can see more, but it looks worse as far as you don’t have those inky blacks no more ..
That Steve Harenberg clip you showed of the LAN party of Xbox systems is exactly what it used to look like. Lugging a 27" CRT to your buddy's house, having nowhere to put it except on the floor in the middle of the room, and connecting 3 or 4 Xbox systems together was somehow worth it. lol
Yup!! me and my buddies used to go over to this guy’s house whenever his parents were gone and we would have LAN cables going out the bedroom window upstairs and coming in the kitchen window downstairs run into another group of Xboxes!!
Those were the days !
@@turismofoegaming8806Ceiling cables were quicker
I can see what EON was trying to accomplish here but you're absolutely correct in saying that, despite all of its functionality and its improved video signal handling, it is still WAY too expensive. The extra functionality it packs can all be bought cheaper by going with separate devices. Want two or more HDMI outputs for this thing? Get a good quality HDMI Splitter or even a small Matrix Switcher which will cost $20-$40 max. Want to be a masochist like me and hook a bunch of Xbox machines together via LAN for System Link? Some CAT 5 cables for a few bucks and a simple 5-port Ethernet switch for under $20 or an old used router. Any of those will get the job done no problem. Even if you wanted ALL of these features at once and combined it with the Xbox2HDMI or even a Xedusa+ for the occasional Xbox power user, the combined total for all of those devices would STILL be less than EON's machine. The price for this thing has only one reason behind it: EON is used to charging $150+ for all of their products ever since they made the GameCube adapters and hoped that it would stick with the N64 and Xbox adapters. Spoiler alert: it doesn't...
The Xbox2HDMI is definitely worth the money.
does the image come out crisp and not blurred?
In my experience setting up the color and brightness for tvs, crt tvs mainly but flat screens as well, the end result is always darker than you would expect.
Think of every game that shows the 3 images side by side and tells you to move the slider until you can't see the first imag3 and barely can see the middle. I never do that, since the game ends up being too dark for me. The majority of people don't like the correct color and darkness, but prefer a brighter washed out image.
The thief side by side showed probably closer to the correct image on the darker old side, and the new bright side was washed out and too bright. Thief is a dark game, it's supposed to look like that.
Thief looked awful on the new one, it completely washed out the dark areas to grey. It didn't even reveal any new detail you couldn't see before. It's just objectively worse. The original needed to bump the brightness like 20-30% but what they did feels passive aggressive. "You want it brighter? FINE!"
@@devilmikey00Nothing to do with any of what you guys are saying, it's a black level problem with the TV, the "washed out" Thief footage is the correct one, you can obviously change your TV settings to adjust it
Yeah I was surprised he didn't mention how that game clearly looked better with the older version
I actually do not like a “washed out” look..
I want it to be as clear as it can possibly be, but at the same time, not being so bright that the picture looks washed out, but also not being so dark to wear that when I get in shaded areas, I can’t see anything!
It just means that sometimes I’m changing my settings in the middle of a game ?
Some games, struggle with this more than others, obviously..
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My “smart” phone is responsible for any words spelled incorrectly-
But this isn't about your preferences, the darker look of the v1 adapter was an error, that's the entire point, it crushed blacks thus the details@@turismofoegaming8806
After buying the hyperkin adapter, I decided to just buy a CRT and use my Monster component cables. The picture quality is amazing on 20" Toshiba.
I use a Kaico to Mclassic cable and that solution works amazingly
I just wanted to take the time to say thank you for keeping this channel consistent with its focus. You’ve done amazing work on these videos. Unfortunately there are channels out there that change their focus for views but you’ve never stirred away.
Thank you! Will do!
TH-cam hasn't shown me your videos in a long time. Glad they are showing again!
I don't show you as Subscribed. You gotta SLAM that button friend!! 👍
Thanks for showing the new vs old HDMI converter!
I just use quality component cables with my modded original Xbox with pre-2016 Samsung TV's still utilizing component inputs.
I use a similar set up for og Xbox and it looks pretty darn good to me
This is the way...
I wish I found this vid sooner! I bought an Xbox HDMI "Adapter" for cheap on Amazon and could not figure out why the lighting on-screen was so dark! I had to crank the brightness on my TV just to see anything. Thanks for plugging a quality HDMI adapter!
WOW...they are thinking way out the box on that price point LOL..The other one you demonstrated was identical and more in line of what someone would want to spend.
Yep. 100% 👍
Consistently Eon's market strategy has been to make cheap but flashy products based on existing tech, charge basically double what most other solutions cost (no exaggeration), and then use marketing to make themselves by far the most immediately visible product for people who aren't familiar with all the options.
It's funny because I just purchased an original Xbox and was looking into an HDMI solution and I ended up ordering the Xbox2HDMI from Electron Shepard and when I saw this pop up I was like oh no did I make a mistake but glad to see I made the right choice for what I want to do. Thanks and love your videos!
Personally EON as a brand I don't recommend any of their products. I ordered the Gamecube one and I had to get it replaced like 3x times because they kept sending me faulty units because the one of the plugs was always bent. I got really frustrated with them that I decided I would just save up to buy the official component cables because at least those will work.
The dual output is nice but there is other devices that you may end up getting if you need to have that feature and it will be used on other systems as well.
So ya I agree, don't buy this adapter! There is other cheaper and equally as good options out there.
Just purchased myself an Xbox2HDMI. Thanks!
Glad I got the xbox2hdmi , that eon adapters price alone and quality just is NOT worth it lol
I do like that it has a 3.5mm jack. There are a lot of monitors that have an audio delay or fade the audio out when it's quiet. Having the ethernet ports would be handy as well and provides an all in one solution, though I think most people would have a switch that should be able to handle that task, but maybe not. Dual HDMI out ports could be handy for cards that don't support passthrough. There's also the remote possibility that future capture cards don't do passthrough either. I imagine having dual hdmi out's would be handy for tournament spaces where one screen could be put up on the big monitor and one on the main play screen or even the possibility of still doing a streaming setup with said tournament setup.
I do think most people would appreciate the cheaper option though. Assuming it has the quality to last.
Thank you for recommending the Xbox 2 HDMI. I couldn't find them anywhere. I used the link from this video and they're making a newer version of it. I mentioned your channel when I bought one. Thanks again man! I almost bought some expensive component cords.
you can build a component cable from the xbox 360 hd cable. Just need to know how to solder
@@sokoloft3 thanks for the info.
You should make an updated comparison video for these adapters. Insurrection industries Carby in my opinion is the best option for people who just want that digital output out of their GameCube. It's half the price of what the EON adapter too. We need to bring more awareness to these cheaper products to the public. Not everyone want dual output or Ethernet ports. There's no need to charge double for features that are not needed
That be nice to know also wether or not said companies adapters are still in production like the carby I thought wasn't in production anymore?
i'd say this kind of device is perfect for lan-parties where each device has to be also split and streamed without going to pass-through since pass-through introduces lots of issues on various capture cards, but i'd say you could built a set up that is marginally cheaper than buying this adapter.
I mean, if you need to split the console output to monitor and streaming box; you can get a HDMI 2.0 splitter/mirror box (1 input, 2 outputs) that does 4K60 for like $40 AUD (about $25-30 USD), or get a 1080p60 splitter for like $15-20 AUD ($10-15 USD).
For the multi-console streamers; Pair that with a 5-way HDMI switch (5 inputs, 1 output) and you can hook up 5 consoles to the same screen/streaming setup without the hassle of swapping cables around (eg: hook a OG Xbox, X360, XB1 and Xbox Series S/X to the switch, feed the switch to the splitter and enjoy lag-free HD gaming with no upscalers whilst streaming to Twitch et all).
I have such a setup where I have my PS3 Super Slim, PS4 Pro, XB1S, WiiU and VitaTV/PSTV set up with a Switch/Splitter combo (with an older HDMI 1.3 splitter) so I can game on my 24" 1080p60 LCD TV and capture the footage on my streaming PC without passthrough lag from the capture card.
Thanks for honest review and not shilling products!
I have no problem telling the good and bad of a product like I did in WOWCube, Warrior 64 and PlayDate, etc... but I also don't spin every review as a "scam!" or overly negative when it doesn't need to be either. Keep it fair and professional.
Mainly an retro pc gamer here but thinking about getting either an OG xbox or xbox 360. Whichever one I get thanks so much for the info it will come in handy!
How in the world did anyone think "yep, looking good, release it" in a VERY competitive market?
Just dug out my OG Xbox from a 20 year hibernation. Still works💪
Make sure to remove the clock capacitor if you haven't already
Will do. Thanks👍
Maybe I'm not picky enough, but I find the OG Xbox looks great on modern TVs with just the component cables.
I visited your neck of the woods while I was on vacation last week! I even visited the Pink Gorilla. Neat store.
Nice! I hope you had a good time in the Seattle area. 👍
I really like the aesthetics of the Xbox 2 HDMI adapter. It looks a lot like the Wii 2 HDMI adapter. Just one piece and it’s super simple. Looks great on screen too.
just purchased the xbox2hdmi a couple weeks ago and the picture is very good. had to change the tv settings just a touch but looks amazing. i would of preferred to hard mod it but i do not play the system enough to justify the cost to have it done. please do a electron shepherd wii2hdmi review. im on the fence of purchasing that dongle as well
I go very cheap and pick up a HDMI converter for $20 but i still prefer playing my original Xbox on a old school tv from the early 2000s because thats how some of us who were kids back in those days grew up. We didnt had no fancy way playing games and we thought xbox was a beast. For myself i feel when you use an hdmi port on a old console like xbox, ps2, GameCube, etc youre losing out on your gaming experience and nostalgia
And some games don't translate well to hd. Burnout 3 looks way better on a tv from the 2000s than it does converted to HD imo
@@omdhdk right
My interest in the original Xbox was definitely renewed back last year when I discovered my original Xbox still down in the bottom of my closet!!! so I dug the old bastard out and came to the realization that all I had was a power cord but it powered on!!
A few months later, I ordered myself some cables and some controllers, about the nastiest and abused cables and controllers you ever seen! Both controllers missing the rubber piece on the analog stick, both controller cords, twisted beyond sanity?!?! But all of it worked?!?
Which brings us to now where I have just ordered me a black S controller that is in brand new condition and still has the grip on it?!?! I ordered a composite to HDMI adapter, but it doesn’t make it look any better at all and so I’m definitely going to be getting the one featured in this video via electron Shepherd!!
I still have both my copy to Halo and Halo to as well as King Kong and from Russia with love and Tony Hawk pro skater for Tony Hawk, 2X and a bunch of other games that I’m gonna start playing again!
Thank you for this video. Excellent work!!
OG Xbox is such an underrated gem of a console. I always tune into all of your videos on it MJR.
Keep up the great work!
I got into Xbox in the 360 era, and only recently got an OG Xbox because while I never owned one, they do rock and (for now) you can get some versions of games that are normally going for a lot on the PS2 for cheaper.
Jason, glad you spoke the truth! No mention of the M Classic??
I should have tried that too. Completely slipped my mind! I’ll do that this weekend.
I really need to get one of these devices but I believe CRT looks better with these old systems. I know my GameCube looks terrible on anything but.
wish i had friend like Metal Jesus 😢
I have the Chimeric Systems HDMI adapter with optical and love it
Metal Jesus back again to spread his good word to the masses
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me personally I would recommend monster component cables hooked up to an upscaler but I understand that’s not gonna be for everyone, that can get really expensive
Can you do a test like this for the PS2? Would like to know how the ossc differs from the cheap hmdi adapters and popular hdmi mods.
Hearing ya. Same here.
You should have mentioned that that range you can get upscalers and might even show the difference for the same amount of money spent
The original Xbox was the bee's knees I remember being an avid PS2 owner and collector at the time of the PlayStation 2 going over to a friend's house and seeing the Xbox running Halo and have been playing on Xbox ever since need I say more the original Xbox was an absolute Beast of a console every game look incredible I mean it looked way ahead of its time the review is awesome and I'm definitely looking forward to purchasing some of these devices to see which one is the best for me cuz I have around 200 games for the original Xbox and I would definitely like to see it in HDMI
There's also the XEDUSA from the Behar Bros. which is a great plug and play option.
Great video 👍🏻 was looking at getting the hyperkin but maybe go for one of the other options thanks to your output
Glad I still have OEM component cables with a 4K that accepts them. Thanks for the vid MJR!
What's your screen's manufacturer and model #?
Yes please do share!
It's an LG. 55UN7300PUF. IPS panel too. Love it.
@@RetroGameRarities thank you sir
@@RetroGameRarities ,
Thanks, again. 👍
I agree! They are just trying to justify their high price. I don't need two HDMI ports, audio out and three ethernet cables. I just want one HDMI out and that's it! Much cheaper.
Thank you for being honost as usual. It is too expensive imo. And cool to see CLZ sponsoring you. I‘m using this killer app for sooo many years now. Love it
Also heard really good things about the Xedusa adapter, just slightly more than the Xbox2HDMI.
i love OG Xbox games so much
For my setup, I'm using the Official OEM Original XBOX High Definition AV Pack with the HD Retrovision Male-to-Male cable going into the Retrotink-5X Pro. In my opinion, that's most likely the way I'm gonna get the best-looking picture quality. Even without the Retrotink-5X Pro, those HD Retrovision Cables are amazing.
WOW THANKS METAL JESUS!!
I’m gonna get one of those XBOX2HDMI Adapters that they sell for $40 by Electron Shepherd!
I feel like they built this specifically for streamers and lan parties and not for the casual audience who just want a cheap plug and play solution. $190 for that is outrageous
For me, I bounce between the Retrotink 5X and the Pound cable connected to an mClassic. I never owned any XB consoles until a few years ago and I love it.
The monster component cables and an ossc cost me less than the xbhd
I'm pretty sure for the cost of that thing you could buy component cables and an ossc
I hope they make a cheap version that only has the one hdmi port cause $190 for that is outrageous. Those other ports are useless for most.
Hey MJR! Did you notice any flickering with the XBOX2HDMI? The hyperkin model sometimes does - Mainly on sports games that are 16:9 and have quick 480p-only menus that pop up
Anyone remember the video where MJR was hooking up old consoles to his CRT via HDRetrovision? I have been looking for that video, but cannot find it anywhere.
Enjoyed this video much love from Niagara Falls Canada brother
Glad you enjoyed it 🤘
Any tips on how/where to get an OG Xbox repaired or already repaired?
....Same here. Refurbed, too. ✏️✏️📌
I really like the Super 64 EON I have but absolutely adore the spice orange GC EON the company put together for me when I couldn't find an affordable on online thanks to scalpers! I so I love the company but you're right about the cost of these. While it's cool that EON makes them to match specific consoles I see this as a bonus not a feature. The upscaling is where it's at and what most are looking for. Not sure what puts them in that price range but bet if they focused more on function rather than form and lowered the cost by $50-$80 they'd probably sell a lot more but I'm not a market researcher and so what do I know! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
How well has that crimson skies aged, would love a remake/sequel.
YES!!! THIS 👆
I have always loved your content, and btw, still do. I guess youtube gaming content is getting fluded. But, you are a main stay on here and fit into a comfort zone place for dudes, 40 and up at least. I like when you show tech content like setting up older systems and adaptors needed. Keep giving us and pushing the older consoles and how to begin setting a a SNES if you are a kid or, teen, even adult. Im still trying to get my LG TV to connect via Steam deck with my Wii motion sensor with og Wii motes. Its a lot, but I can figure it out. But you should mix and match things.
I made a component cable out of a old xbox av cable and xbox 360 HD cable.
All of these expensive HDMI converters are crazy. I picked up a cheap converter years ago for under ten bucks and it works great.
Yes. I did something similar. There are cheap adapters out there that work fine.
I mean is it technically the best hdmi solution for the xbox? Yeah probably. Is it worth the price? Yeah, definitely not lol, i agree with you pretty much, the xbox2hdmi is a quarter of the price and has identical image quality, which is all most people really care about, dual hdmi and lan connections are just so niche, and even with those additions, this shouldn't be more than 100 bucks. If they basically put an mclassic inside the adapter to have an optional upscaling mode then MAYBE itd be worth the price, but even then, itd be better to just have a separate upscaler for multiple systems. Yeah idk i just really cant justify or recommend it outside of maybe a professional setting, or maybe if you really love the original xbox and it goes on sale or something
The problem with the price for me is doesn't upscale but I guess this makes it easy to hook up the Mclassic
luckily my hdtvs have component input, so I can use the og component cables for both Xbox and run it at 720p. (component,, not AV. Component has all the different color plugs, not the yellow, red and white.)
Thank you for sharing more options.
You bet!
Great video Jason when are you doing a pick ups vid with your boy Reggie
Yep! We were just talking about that yesterday!
@@MetalJesusRocks awesome can’t wait to watch it!
Definition of "nice that those features are there but why would I use them?"
Playing those old consoles is best on an old tv the way it was meant to be played. The $42 solution is probably the way to go for most though
OG Xbox was a beast of a machine.
happy with my retrotink 5x-pro, it does everything (and it is an upscaler too) I need.
I had been looking at the Hyperkin cable for my Dreamcast. Maybe I'll consider another solution after showing how dark the XBOX version was. Definitely going to look into the Electronic Shepherd solution instead.
The one I bough on amazing was like $30. It has its moments, but does what it needs to do.
I don’t know if it really looks “better”. The new version seems to have gone too far in the other direction and at least over capture, the picture looks a little blown out? Thanks for the update!
The Xedusa from the Behar Bros is like a third of the price and doesn't have the blacks issue.
This is a big nope from me and I am a huge OG Xbox fan.
I would buy this if it had VGA output.
The OG Xbox was a worthy adversary in the 6th gen of games.
As far as third party games are concerned, they were best played on the OG Xbox with max quality and performance.
The Xbox2Hdmi seems like a good investment and the best substitute from Hyperkin and EON. Thanks again, MJR!!! 🤘
We played Halo 2 in land party’s with 5 tv 📺 and 5 OG Xbox
The brighter footage looks really washed out to me. I almost prefer the darker version. I use the OSSC though for original Xbox so I prefer that tenfold to this option.
I am still looking for a cheap HDMI output that uses an external power supply. My Xbox's 5v rail is weak and full of interference... so when the device uses the onboard rail, I get all sorts of weird rolling bars and junk.
Good showing
This review is spot-on.
to me the biggest issue with original xbox is the aging hardware itself. They are getting to the point they literally don't work due to many issues like, leaky clock battery, clunky disc drive, failing hard drives. What we really need is a device that will play the games with HDMI built in like poly mega. Yes I know you can repair and upgrade them, but that is beyond my capability (hdmi mods), and I am not going to pay absurd money for someone to restore/upgrade one. Its fun to have an OG xbox, but I'm not going to throw piles of money at it. If anybody has found a good path forward I'd love to hear about it.
Interesting idea for the PolyMega to add Xbox support. That would be pretty cool actually!
the thief comparison between the old and the new revision is just absolutely horrendous, the new revision ruins the colors and atmosphere. the gamma is cranked up way too high, almost as if that was their solution- a shoddy band-aid fix
Well i honestly just hooked it to my 29 Inch CRT TV via a Component cable i mean, it's not HDMI but it does the job i guess
Isn't the GameCube adaptor the thing that fried one of your consoles?
I know they came up with an updated version of that as well, but man they seem to never get it right on the first try 😅
Nope. The EON one doesn't have that problem w/ the GameCube.
@@MetalJesusRocks ah okay must have mixed that up then...
I most likely wouldn't get this since the only possible reason I see myself getting an original Xbox would be to try out Steel Battalion.
Did they just added a gamma boost to the chain without fixing the actual problem? I only ask because the Thief comparison just went from bad to worse by changing the dark grays to light grays. Pretty sure the game is SUPPOSED to be dark but without the black crush from the old EON.
Thanks for sharing. Do you have a preferred HDMI option for PS2?
Just getting into xbox ownership/collecting, just running component cables for the moment, but am looking at the Electron Shephard product eventually...but to get one shipped to where I live im looking at over $100 but seeing it compared to others it seems worth it.
In my honest opinion, NOTHING compares to XBOX2HDMI in simplicity and accomplishing its purpose for a R-E-A-S-O-N-A-B-L-E price. XBOX2HDMI is perfect...
is it me or does the OG adapter look better?
We need a nice up to date PS2 solution
retrotink, either the 2X Pro, 5X Pro or 4K (if you have the money).
I had a device that supported passthrough and the issue is they chroma subsampled the shit out of the passthrough. Just an example