The funniest part of this video is the robot character stuff, a microcosm of the entire problem with Sonic since the '90s. _"The developers listened to the fans' ideas about the games, and the result was a piece of trash everyone hated."_
Shadow's "Is that what Chaos Control is?" line never seemed odd to me, it always sounded to me like he was shocked that his power was associated with a giant grotesque monster. It sort of came off to me like "Am I the same as that thing?"
For me, the whole "moon is intact" bit has the same explanation that appears in Sonic X: Eggman simply reconstructed it using camouflage technology to simulate what it was before, as a way to pay for his crimes or something like that. Considering Sonic x also had the concept of two worlds that was later confirmed to be cannon in the games universe, I wouldn't be surprised if this part would be brought up to the games universe.
@@whaleping it was confirmed to be canon (at least indirectly) in a interview from Takashi Ihsuka around the time Sonic Colors was new. Also, games like Adventure 1 e 2, 06, and Unleashed have more realistic places (at leats most of them), compared to the more fictional places from Heroes, Rivals, Riders and Forces (in fact, Forces's world and levels were made with the intent of feeling like an alien world, like texts of weird languages in buildings and other stuff (this kind of detail the haters won't mention when they go mock the Boost games)). And let's not forget that both Unleashed and Forces shows fully modeled worlds as hub menus, and both planets look completely different from each other. They may never directly confirmed this, but they also never denied this, and considering all these details, it is more likely that the 2 two worlds theory is canon.
Gabriel Cybernnic No, it would be a retcon because the two worlds “theory” goes against directly what happens in Adventure 1 and 2. Green Hill Zone is a location on SA2’s map. And it wasn’t a reference, it just wasn’t part of the story.
@@whaleping Green hill's inclusion in SA2's stage select screen doesn't necessarily invalidates everything (after all, its a bonus stage, the reason to exist was to be a bonus). But yeah, maybe it's a retcon, maybe it was always canon. I think it was always, but I'm open to discussion.
6:57 That's ME!!! My sister and I were getting his autograph at Sonic Boom 2013. Everyone in the audience laughed when he was asked that question about the moon. He laughed too, knowing his answer was going to be kind of silly. Such a fun day!
The Archie comic wasn't just the longest running comic based on a video game, or any piece of media, it was the longest-running comic not to be relaunched.
Perhaps within the (American) comic book medium? Because I can think of several examples of longer series within comic strips, manga, Franco-Belgian comics etc.
19:49 The ESRB Rating Guide says the teen rating is "Suitable for ages 13 and up. May contain infrequent use of strong language." If they went through with this rating and someone approved, we could have had the first case of a Sonic character actually swearing in the franchise. Basically, Shadow could have *legally said fuck* , if only they had stuck with the teen rating.
Tbh I would rather have this game rated 13+ that way it could make this game more unique from the rest of the other sonic games and it would make shadow feel more then the edge lord of the series
Actually, the moon part does make sense - Part of it was blown up. So material was ejected, which would add rotational momentum. It could have always slowed down after the initial force was added, and became locked again with the intact side facing the planet
"The PS2 version was notably lower in quality than it's counterparts." Let us also not forget that forever burned into your TV thing on the PS2 version.... E
@@pass_ In the PS2 version of Sonic Heroes, there's a weird thing that happens every time a boss's name appears on screen. The letters gradually fade away from right-to-left, but the leftmost one never actually *fully* disappears, meaning throughout the whole fight and even the results screen, there's just a slightly transparent letter stuck there.
24:44 funny he mentioned the mistake of the screenshot being labled as Sonic 2 when it’s actually from Sonic 3, but then he said it’s from Sonic 3 and Knuckles which funnily enough isn’t even in Sonic’s Ultimate Genesis Collection, only OG Sonic 3 which is where the screenshot is taken from.
9:52 uh... these screenshots are NOT from an early SA2 build, they’re from SA1... However the demo disc known as SA2 The Trial, which came out alongside SA1 on Dreamcast (I had it) had Sonic in his SA1 shoes in a playable demo of City Escape with a kareoky version of Escape from the City, also I had a magazine back in the day that had early screenshots taking from that demo also showing Sonic in his SA1 shoes.
Only fanboys with a distinct lack of good taste would defend Sonic as anything but laughable. Still an entertaining series of failures tho. Wouldn't have it any other way.
@@donaldtrumpling2016 I wasn't saying that I hate everything about Modern Sonic games. In fact, I enjoyed Sonic Lost World and Sonic Forces. What I am saying, though, is that it's obvious that those games don't have nearly as much innovation in the series, or even gaming in general as Sonic Adventure did. For instance, Chaos was meant to be a groundbreaking character based on folklore that couldn't have been done on previous hardware while The Deadly Six are six different characters with generic character designs and a single character trait.
I think the reason the moon turned around unnaturally was due to the impact from the ARK. So even though it's not normal for the moon to turn around, I think their excuse for why the moon isn't partially destroyed looking anymore makes sense in a way.
It’s crazy how I’ve been sitting here with my AirPods on just listening the whole hour lol even the previous episodes you just released, I usually don’t have the attention span to watch a TH-cam video for a whole hour. You guys are doing something right !! 👌🏽💯😂
Gamma's segments are often criticized? I thought his segments were awesome. His final boss had one of the best songs in the game! Also, his story was rather sad. :(
DYKG: "this boxart has a screenshot thats supposedly from sonic 2 but its actually from sonic 3 & knuckles" also DYKG: [shows sonic adventure 1 screenshots] these are from sonic adventure 2
im just kidding though lol, its not a big deal! just teasing about the irony with the mistake. pretty sure the thing with the soap shoes is true, the editor probably just added the wrong file on accident. it happens
I can't help but feel partially responsible for some of these extremely incorrect Hideki Naganuma facts. Had DYKG reached out to me to do an episode on Hideki's music, I could have suggested corrections.
I like the fact that you talked about how someone took Mega777's art as they're own for a prize for Sonic and The Black Knight. It's really messed up someone did that. I think you should talk about how fan outcry can affect a product after release. Overall that was a standout fact I did not know about, you guys did great!
I remember participating in the poll on the website back in the day... Voted Shadow. And I clearly picked "Chaos Unleashed!" So many cool thoughts ran through my head of what they were gonna pull off... But... It happened and wasnt as great as I had hoped. Still liked it for what it was trying to do though... Of course being about 6 years old as well hahaha hell yeah I thought it was pretty cool.. Especially having just gotten the PS2 slim recently back then and playing my brothers copy of San Andreas while they weren't there. Good times...
The SA2 song you were talking about that was the first instance of a curse word in Sonic was not "Unknowm From M. E.", as far as I know, it was the song "Deeper...", and the section with the curse word got cut from the in-game version.
Fun Fact: the DC version of SA1 uses the proto models during gameplay but uses the updated models for cutsenes and closeups for sky chase. also you should really use DC footage for the final version bc DX is almost completely different texture-wise
Apologies for the necro, but this is the first time I have ever heard about the link between Saturn Sonic and Adventure. That is insane that no vids on Sonic Xtreme have this! If anyone is still listening, was it Xtreme or a different project??
The game:
Charmy: I'm a child lol
The comic:
Charmy: I have brain damage
Down?
@@lloydthehedgehogirving6049 long story
Nearly juiced into energy by eggman saved halfway through made him from a smart king to well charmy
The funniest part of this video is the robot character stuff, a microcosm of the entire problem with Sonic since the '90s. _"The developers listened to the fans' ideas about the games, and the result was a piece of trash everyone hated."_
@@sirswellow7210 which comic series?
@@backtothefutureman1 archie
"The nightopians could be merged with other creatures, and even *b r e a d* "
They can merge with bread?
Bred
they can eat bread
We've done nothing but merge Nightopians with bread for three days.
Breadtopians
I'm glad they're making hour long videos that they know people are gonna watch lol
The longer you watch them, the more money they get
@@KhalilSonic gooooooood money goooooooood
@@KhalilSonic I have no problem with it. They deserve it, unlike influencers :P
@@LordTchernobog me neither
I think its just a compilation of past vids 😉
Shadow's "Is that what Chaos Control is?" line never seemed odd to me, it always sounded to me like he was shocked that his power was associated with a giant grotesque monster. It sort of came off to me like "Am I the same as that thing?"
46:15 Oh the irony of Sonic being killed by a lamppost. He was just trying to cross the checkpoint!
For me, the whole "moon is intact" bit has the same explanation that appears in Sonic X: Eggman simply reconstructed it using camouflage technology to simulate what it was before, as a way to pay for his crimes or something like that.
Considering Sonic x also had the concept of two worlds that was later confirmed to be cannon in the games universe, I wouldn't be surprised if this part would be brought up to the games universe.
The two worlds thing in the Games isn’t canon unless it’s a Retcon. It hasn’t been confirmed to be a Retcon so it’s not actually canon.
@@whaleping it was confirmed to be canon (at least indirectly) in a interview from Takashi Ihsuka around the time Sonic Colors was new.
Also, games like Adventure 1 e 2, 06, and Unleashed have more realistic places (at leats most of them), compared to the more fictional places from Heroes, Rivals, Riders and Forces (in fact, Forces's world and levels were made with the intent of feeling like an alien world, like texts of weird languages in buildings and other stuff (this kind of detail the haters won't mention when they go mock the Boost games)).
And let's not forget that both Unleashed and Forces shows fully modeled worlds as hub menus, and both planets look completely different from each other.
They may never directly confirmed this, but they also never denied this, and considering all these details, it is more likely that the 2 two worlds theory is canon.
Gabriel Cybernnic No, it would be a retcon because the two worlds “theory” goes against directly what happens in Adventure 1 and 2.
Green Hill Zone is a location on SA2’s map. And it wasn’t a reference, it just wasn’t part of the story.
@@whaleping Green hill's inclusion in SA2's stage select screen doesn't necessarily invalidates everything (after all, its a bonus stage, the reason to exist was to be a bonus). But yeah, maybe it's a retcon, maybe it was always canon. I think it was always, but I'm open to discussion.
Gabriel Cybernnic yeah, bonus stage but it’s there.
The story of Sonic adventure 1 completely debunks the two world theory.
6:57 That's ME!!! My sister and I were getting his autograph at Sonic Boom 2013. Everyone in the audience laughed when he was asked that question about the moon. He laughed too, knowing his answer was going to be kind of silly. Such a fun day!
Omg that’s so awesome!!
Y
The Archie comic wasn't just the longest running comic based on a video game, or any piece of media, it was the longest-running comic not to be relaunched.
@Cassie Lazzie no it wasn’t relaunched they just took out the characters
Perhaps within the (American) comic book medium? Because I can think of several examples of longer series within comic strips, manga, Franco-Belgian comics etc.
19:49 The ESRB Rating Guide says the teen rating is "Suitable for ages 13 and up. May contain infrequent use of strong language."
If they went through with this rating and someone approved, we could have had the first case of a Sonic character actually swearing in the franchise. Basically, Shadow could have *legally said fuck* , if only they had stuck with the teen rating.
"Where's that _fucking_ fourth Chaos Emerald?"
@@VolatileViolet better shorten it for lip sync. "Where's that fourth FUCKING emerald?"
let 👏 sonic 👏 say 👏 fuck 👏
Tbh I would rather have this game rated 13+ that way it could make this game more unique from the rest of the other sonic games and it would make shadow feel more then the edge lord of the series
That would've been legendary.
It hurt me when he said the Archie sonic comic was still going on. I loved that
:(
We have the IDW comics now, so that's good.
@@traewhite7901 well they are ok, nothing compared to the Ian Flynn pre genesis archie
Imagine getting game aids and the only thing the smartest man in the world can do is make a hot topic hedgehog with soap shoes
46:40 just as a clarification the Archie sonic comics as of 2017 have now ended and a new Series has started under IDW
Also, Blue Falcon = euphemistic military slang for "buddy f***er".
Actually, the moon part does make sense - Part of it was blown up. So material was ejected, which would add rotational momentum. It could have always slowed down after the initial force was added, and became locked again with the intact side facing the planet
"The PS2 version was notably lower in quality than it's counterparts."
Let us also not forget that forever burned into your TV thing on the PS2 version....
E
what fovever burned thing?
@@pass_ In the PS2 version of Sonic Heroes, there's a weird thing that happens every time a boss's name appears on screen. The letters gradually fade away from right-to-left, but the leftmost one never actually *fully* disappears, meaning throughout the whole fight and even the results screen, there's just a slightly transparent letter stuck there.
I love how in the video about *mistakes/bugs,* he calls Team Rose "Team Cream" lmao
Not a mistake, they just know who the real MVP of that team is.
@@GamingintheAM0801 shots fired lol
Sonic is my favorite game franchise!
Yes
yeah sonic is a good franchise
Sonic Fans: *ask for guns*
Sega: *gives Shadow a gun*
Sonic Fans: Right, what's all this then?
24:44 funny he mentioned the mistake of the screenshot being labled as Sonic 2 when it’s actually from Sonic 3, but then he said it’s from Sonic 3 and Knuckles which funnily enough isn’t even in Sonic’s Ultimate Genesis Collection, only OG Sonic 3 which is where the screenshot is taken from.
23:32 The voices are exactly the same! LOL
no
@@sonicrobbin4070 He sounds like the Gun Soldier.
I figured by "it rotated" he meant the impact of the explosion rotated the moon on its axis before it resynced with the Earth's rotation
Man, can you imagine a version of Sonic 1 with Labyrinth zone right after Green Hill? That could have killed the franchise right then and there.
9:52 uh... these screenshots are NOT from an early SA2 build, they’re from SA1...
However the demo disc known as SA2 The Trial, which came out alongside SA1 on Dreamcast (I had it) had Sonic in his SA1 shoes in a playable demo of City Escape with a kareoky version of Escape from the City, also I had a magazine back in the day that had early screenshots taking from that demo also showing Sonic in his SA1 shoes.
true, those screenshots are from the wrong game...
“Ah yeah this is happening!”
I honestly thought chaos was made of water because sonics worst enemy was water, so they personified it
9:50 those are beta screenshots of sonic adventure not sonic adventure 2
These videos were from years ago.
@@ChaseMC215 and this comment was from years ago 🤪
20:28 “Jun’ichi KaNAYmahroo”
To be fair I doubt the moon would stay still if you blew it up
*WELL TODAY WE ARE GONNA FIND OUT WHAT 𝙍𝙚𝙖𝙡𝙡𝙮 HAPPENS*
"Maria Robotnik suffered from a fictional incurable disease called N. I.-"
STOP!
"D. S."
Oh okay, you're good
“says various curse words, such as
_d a m n”_
This is the first video I ever watched that was actually 1:00:00
same
“did you know? maria robotnik has aids”
Really enjoyed the 1 hour videos so far, looking forward to watching/listening to this one later 👍🏻
"Nothing like Chaos was possible on previous consoles."
Morpha - "Am I a fucking joke to you?"
Also, this video's URL is Eggman approved.
Don’t get the unreasonable hate from some of the people here. This is nice in my opinion.
What kind of hate? Because everyone agrees even if Sonic is bad everyone can enjoy it and make fun of it.
@@lasarousi bad bait
lasarousi Nice try. Nobody is stupid enough to take the bait dude.
Only fanboys with a distinct lack of good taste would defend Sonic as anything but laughable.
Still an entertaining series of failures tho. Wouldn't have it any other way.
Baba Bobo what does that mean baiting ppl pls explain
Did You Know? Ever since he jumped to 3D, Sonic-
*SoNic HaD A rOuGh JumP To 3dDDd,EfentHouHh his Fest GaMi In 3DdS WaS A hEt*
Sonic fal throug looop that meens sonic advecher bad xddddddd
Did You Know it's canon that Sonic the Hedgehog should be retired forever, according to the principle _"Quit while you're behind"?_ lmao
48:00 Hidden Palace was completed and included in the Android release of Sonic 2
Unpopular opinion: SA2 Soap shoes are my fav shoes Sonic ever wore
I don't think that's an unpopular opinion. His shoes in that game look sick.
They're the best by far
People disliked them??
who else falls asleep to these videos, i find them great for sleep aid
Tikal is an underrated icon that deserves more love :/
If only Sonic Team still put as much creativity and ambition into Sonic games as they put into Sonic Adventure
Nope they're corret Bunnie has a evil alternative universe version of her self who contradicts the disease and she is called Buns
@@Danielruni Oh, thanks for the correction.
nEw SoNiC iS BaD!1!1!1
@@donaldtrumpling2016 I wasn't saying that I hate everything about Modern Sonic games. In fact, I enjoyed Sonic Lost World and Sonic Forces. What I am saying, though, is that it's obvious that those games don't have nearly as much innovation in the series, or even gaming in general as Sonic Adventure did. For instance, Chaos was meant to be a groundbreaking character based on folklore that couldn't have been done on previous hardware while The Deadly Six are six different characters with generic character designs and a single character trait.
@@SwiftAsTheWind As Donald said "nEw SoNiC Bad hurrrrrr Me LoVE OlD SonIC Hurr"
17:14 i think silver's boots were inspired by Rouge's boots here, they look very similar.
I think the reason the moon turned around unnaturally was due to the impact from the ARK. So even though it's not normal for the moon to turn around, I think their excuse for why the moon isn't partially destroyed looking anymore makes sense in a way.
Love these luxuriously long lists! Thanks for uploading!
I will and always love the Sonic series thank you SEGA
To be honest if Sega would have put those popcorn machines in movie theaters around the world they would've made a fortune
It’s crazy how I’ve been sitting here with my AirPods on just listening the whole hour lol even the previous episodes you just released, I usually don’t have the attention span to watch a TH-cam video for a whole hour. You guys are doing something right !! 👌🏽💯😂
My first Sonic game was on Sega Genesis. It is also my entire childhood.
I'm not watching yet. I'm saving this for later lol
Did you watch it yet?
Ok
Same
That's what she said
Really enjoying the hour long compilations. Saves me from having to create a themed playlist, you did it already for me!
"Night topiens" could conbine into even bread!?" 4:37
O_O??
I think it’s fun having a bunch of sonic characters. Now if saga could make consistent good games
define consistent cause so far its been fine
48:12 Stegosaurus lol
There is a Easter egg is Sonic mania of the famous glitch in Knuckles chaotix “Wechnia” if you beat &Knuckles without chaos emeralds
41:57 - You VS the guy she told, not to worry about.
Also nightmare fuel af
31:33 Team *Cream*
Wut? 😅
46:39
That one sure aged well
"Not only was Sonic the first videogame character to be featured in the Macey's Thanksgiving Parade..."
*fucking dies*
Well the blast could have rotated the moon with it's power of you stretch your suspension of disbelief
9:49 aren’t those screenshots from Sonic Adventure 1?
Thanks for the vid, man!
more one hour vids keep this up y'all are doing a good job keep up the good work
Sonic the Hedgehog: we have the most playable characters in any video game...
Lego Star Wars: hold my pieces...
16:18 i miss cobi
Gamma's segments are often criticized? I thought his segments were awesome. His final boss had one of the best songs in the game! Also, his story was rather sad. :(
Im glad we got a lot of Sonic facts, but I'd like a lot more megaman facts in an hour video, too
Appreciate the quality content that you all work hard to put out!!
Yes finally a sonic video
Always put these on while trying to go to sleep, thanks guys
DYKG: "this boxart has a screenshot thats supposedly from sonic 2 but its actually from sonic 3 & knuckles"
also DYKG: [shows sonic adventure 1 screenshots] these are from sonic adventure 2
im just kidding though lol, its not a big deal! just teasing about the irony with the mistake.
pretty sure the thing with the soap shoes is true, the editor probably just added the wrong file on accident. it happens
Perfect 1 hour
I can't help but feel partially responsible for some of these extremely incorrect Hideki Naganuma facts. Had DYKG reached out to me to do an episode on Hideki's music, I could have suggested corrections.
42:05 that is actully talking about the chao doctor
The best sonic facts?? They never heard od cybershell!!!
For some reason, I never thought to call the Blue Spheres "Blue Balls" until I heard that little tidbit, but now that's what I'm calling them.
Great video an hour passed like 10 minutes
9:51: BRUH THOSE ARE CLEARLY SA1 BETA SCREENSHOTS
I like the fact that you talked about how someone took Mega777's art as they're own for a prize for Sonic and The Black Knight. It's really messed up someone did that.
I think you should talk about how fan outcry can affect a product after release. Overall that was a standout fact I did not know about, you guys did great!
Jall time for him
I remember participating in the poll on the website back in the day... Voted Shadow. And I clearly picked "Chaos Unleashed!" So many cool thoughts ran through my head of what they were gonna pull off... But... It happened and wasnt as great as I had hoped. Still liked it for what it was trying to do though... Of course being about 6 years old as well hahaha hell yeah I thought it was pretty cool.. Especially having just gotten the PS2 slim recently back then and playing my brothers copy of San Andreas while they weren't there. Good times...
19:44 The arcade game sega sonic is technically the first sonic game that sweared the word damn in it’s japanease dialouge.
Oh you actually did it
28:50 you forgot to mention he’s also missing his gloves on the Sonic 2 US cover.
17:03 so dr robotnik is a confirmed simp?
Is there any update on the region locked book? I want my custom sfc already lol
If a sonic game told me to "get blue balls" I would collapse on the floor and die.
Can you make in a Super NES Compilation?
I always loved the fact that dr robotnik was originally going to be the main character.
I do enjoy all the Trivia for Sonic Adventure 2, since it's my favorite game of all time.
Crazy Carl from the Sonic movie had a camper in a deleted scene, and the license plate for said camper was 1NOM155.
Can you please put in Timestamps and the Paper Mario and a Character Compilations?
2:30 wait it did *W h a t* now?
The SA2 song you were talking about that was the first instance of a curse word in Sonic was not "Unknowm From M. E.", as far as I know, it was the song "Deeper...", and the section with the curse word got cut from the in-game version.
It's in both songs, actually
Note in Hebrew chaos emeralds are called ''יהלומי כאוס'' which means chaos diamonds.
Fun Fact: the DC version of SA1 uses the proto models during gameplay but uses the updated models for cutsenes and closeups for sky chase.
also you should really use DC footage for the final version bc DX is almost completely different texture-wise
[Sonic] HAHA, HA.
O N E.
"Sonic's personality was based around Bill Clinton."
Wow. I'm having an existential crisis. Thanks!
Apologies for the necro, but this is the first time I have ever heard about the link between Saturn Sonic and Adventure. That is insane that no vids on Sonic Xtreme have this! If anyone is still listening, was it Xtreme or a different project??
38:31 Me when I get the super power of invisibility