Honestly, i liked how this kid asked the question in different ways because the way he asked it each time allowed the answers to be confirmed in the specific parts of the question. It looks to me that he just wanted to understand the answer and not just know it if that makes sense. Very good in my opinion, all these videos help me soo muchh 😊
Sometimes asking the same question in different context helps explain an answer fully. Hpweber, I think the kid should have wrote hos questions down. They were worded kinda confusing.
Yup you're nice lady female as these nice lads males are nice all great but not good! We aren't perfect. I'm nice *as long as I continue rejecting secular culture and violence even among Christians themselves* yeah of course Frank turek wasn't rude or rough here and if he's at least rough it's neccesary! Sometimes but yes being loving is also needed such as tough love as well. You're nice for showing empathy to our fellow brother in Christ amen hopefully.
Frank talks of two different things. The subject of the question was about two things, #1, the existence of God and #2, basically having faith in a religion that focuses on God. That is what he means by "belief that" when compared to "belief in".
Because frank doesn't answer questions. He talks around them meaning you have to ask the same thing over and over until frank finds a lie you're happy with
Right- if I see a chair- I know it’s supposed to support me when I sit in it because of my knowledge of what a chair is supposed to do- But I have to have faith when I sit in it- Because there’s still a chance it could collapse from up under me... So KNOWLEDGE and FAITH are different.
This kid seems determined to use a definition of "faith" that is false. Knowledge leads to informed faith. So many people seem to think that the only faith that is real is blind faith. Absolute nonsense. Blind faith is completely useless. Christianity is based on informed faith. I think many people confuse faith with hope, in that the Bible says that hope seen is no longer hope. But that's because hope seen is hope fulfilled, which is no longer merely anticipated.
Enon Knives Bingo! Well said. I actually go to a bible study every other week that Frank leads, and just last week he talked about this. Faith is trusting in what you have good reason to believe is true. It’s not just blind faith as you pointed out.
Faith when it comes to religion means: "strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof" Like it or not THAT is the truth
@@ThomB50 "I have faith my wife won’t cheat on me. This is based on knowledge and established trust." And is also based n facts like how she is with you. Also you could replace the word faith with trust and it would be just as accurate. "I have faith God will save me from my sins. This is based on the knowledge I have of God and my established trust in God." But based on spiritual convistion not proof. Faith has two meaning and I very much doubt that when you have faith in your wide what you actually means is that you "Believe with no evidence that she is the supernatural creator of the universe that communes with you by magic"
We all know by knowledge that firefighters exist. And we know (knowledge)they are the only folk on earth who can save us from fire. But here’s the faith...if one is in a fire, who does one put their faith in to save from a burning building??? Police? A doctor? No! A firefighter. That’s faith IN an existing one that we have knowledge of. People just don’t like the fact that there is God and that we are to put our trust and faith in him, just like we would with a firefighter. God bless
Nope 1 trys to get out first, and if they cannot they hope a firefighter (someone they have evidence exists.) Saves them... but some might even prey to God and then give him the credit afterward.
Daniel Mione that’s true in a lot of cases. But the part that you’re leaving out is that people in fires usually can’t save themselves in most cases. Just like all of us in this world. We absolutely can’t get saved unless we trust in Jesus Christ the Lord because God is the only way to salvation. That’s my point.
tygamerforce that’s not the same. You’re implying suicide. You don’t have to believe and have faith in God. That’s the choice God have you. Bottom line is, just like everything else, we would have to wait and see. Based on my knowledge, I like my chances with trusting in God because that’s what I know and believe.
tygamerforce people tempt God in all aspects of life every day with what we do and how we live and the way that you tempt God is with sin but that is why we are to put away the way we do things and trusting God and try our hardest in our living to be a sin less as possible that is a totally different subject
Correct! Faith is trust in God. Just a side note, it's always God that always reach to us first, love us first, work for us first and shows evidence first that you can trust in Him, in His mercy, in His grace, in His power, in His fair judgement, in His wisdom and in His Love that had been shown through His Son Jesus Christ. If God didn't go first, we won't know Him personally.
Faith can also be trust that the Earth won't be destroyed in the next 5 minutes. Atheists have faith in certain things but it's difficult for them to admit it because of their arrogance and cowardice.
@@toarrestsomeoneistoviolate2643 Then please enlighten me on how I have faith in anything? Assuming we are going by definition, faith is belief without evidence.
@@toarrestsomeoneistoviolate2643 My definition of faith is quite standard. And if you consider scientist to work and have an education in science, then yes, I am.
@@catkit86 actually your definition of "faith" is quite redundant. The word "belief" already indicates a lack of evidence, thus it is unnecessary to add "without evidence" as part of that definition. What are your credentials in science? Can you provide evidence of your scientific findings and accolades or do you merely have faith that others will have faith in your claims?
correct you have to have faith in a chair before you sit in it, or a Red light to stop the other cars from slamming into you. That all faith. Now to have faith that the Bible is the Word of God most don't take the time to care. It's easier to say I believe than to trust, study, knowing. walking. That would be religion but a disciple is a knowledge of God a correct relationship. A trusting of what he says & does. A doer of the word, not just a hearer.
Wow Dr Frank Turek is extremely intelligent. May God bless, protect and preserve this man and his knowledge. He single handedly roast confusers every single time. Imagine if someone of his knowledge and wisdom is around to answer this particular boys questions so easily he might have become the Atheist Scientists or another Christopher Hitchens someday but am glad Dr Frank Turek pieced it for him, God bless you Dr Frank Turek 🙏🏽❤️ we need Christian genius like him.
I find interesting how people keep commenting base on a preconception of the bible and God and religión, ignoring that christianity and Jesus and the bible has been studied for centuries in an scientific and historical way. I am glad that at least they are searching and joining the conversation. Blessings!
If there is a person beside me, I know beyond a shadow of a doubt they exist, but if I hand them the keys to my car, I have faith they can drive my car without wrecking, or stealing it. That’s the difference.
This kind of intellectualization is skirting around the point that most people just don't want God. As Jesus said, “And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil." John 3:19 NKJV So the "I can't believe without evidence" argument is not what it's about at all. It's people's love for sin and fear of coming into the light to have their sins exposed. It's pride and a love for their sin that holds people back from God. Not a lack of evidence. God said He created the world, man said it's an accident. God said He gave us His word, men said it's a fake. God said He sent His Son, men said He's a liar. Everything God has done has been resisted by man for that one reason. The refusal to give up their sin and be accountable to God. The evidence is there and the offer of salvation is still available but most will still not come to Him. In their hearts they know and they are without excuse.
What you said is true and the primary and true reason for unbelief, but doesn't address the man's point, it merely dismisses it. Faith IS our evidence of things unseen, as believers. This is the problem with Frank's "evidence" based belief and the entire trend toward evidence based belief. Frank says, don't come to Jesus, come to the evidence---that's a direct quote. This is error. The Antichrist will provide convincing evidence he is god. Then what will Christians say? Don't believe evidence? Blessed are those who believe and do not see.
Faith in our senses and faith in experience is still faith. Somewhere along the line we have to take a stance that the world is knowable and we experience things and have some trust in ourselves and others to some degree. Along the way we see cause and affect in our lives and add this to our knowledge base. If I hear the sound of rain outside -- but am not by the window - I do not have to run to the window to confirm its raining outside. Based of previous experience it is quite reasonable to assume its raining. If you are that uptight --- time to lighten up. Cheers.
I think this guy has a point (if I can understand where he is trying to go). I am a Christian, but would say I slightly differ with the way Frank said this one. I don't think the knowledge we have is objective that God exists. A much stronger case can be made for His existence with the evidence and we should follow the evidence where it leads. This will give us good reason to believe God exists especially when compared with the alternatives. Frank often says he could be wrong, but here it sounds like he is saying with the knowledge we have, the existence of God is objective. I don't think we can objectively prove it. I also feel like the whole design of God is about trusting in Him and building that relationship. Let's says God came down every couple of years and proved to us He existed. Then we would say we have objective knowledge that God exists. But would we then follow Him out of love and trust? Or would it be obligation and a desire to achieve the status of heaven? It would infringe on the whole idea of free will.
This question is based in misconception of the Word from the get go. Understandable, but we see this too often with non-believers that they hold a view that is so far off from what text states.
The modern skeptic thinks believing God exists is the hurdle. It isn't. 90% of the world already believes in the supernatural. That's not a hurdle. The hurdle is TRUSTING God, as a person who has goals, who has covenants, who expects something from us. Just look at Kanye. He's been talking ABOUT God taking his goodness and existence for granted for 10 years in the public eye. But he didn't trust IN God.
What you believe in is your faith. If there is truth, then your faith must be put in that truth no matter what for that's how faith works. Once you've acknowledge the truth in front of yourselves, then you have faith in that truth. Your faith must always dependent on your truth.
I think, more importantly, people need to stop confusing faith and trust. That are NOT the same, they are NOT synonyms. Analogies/metaphors/parables are prone to criticism of “the fallacy of...” but this is important for the lay and the learned(!!!) to stop confusing the two. A person walks in the noon day sun on a trail in the woods he’s never been on. His eyes, which he has years of sensory data to lean on, allow him to TRUST that the path before him is indeed there. At night, he keeps walking, but under the cover of the dense canopy, he can’t see the path. He pulls out a flashlight, which he TRUSTS in the flashlight’s luminous quality, to see 6’/2 meters ahead of him. Not being able to see the path beyond the very limited area beyond his senses, he has FAITH that he is on the right path AND that it will continue while TRUSTING that for the couple of feet/meters ahead of him he can see is true. The battery dies on the flashlight, so he continues walking in complete darkness having BLIND FAITH that he is on a path AND that the path continues. He died because the woods led to a cliff. Blind faith kills. Faith is in what you cannot trust, but is only rational when it coincides with something you can trust. Trust is based on sensory or reasonable (maybe even rational) facts (objective may be true, but a different argument). Please stop confusing the terms, especially if you are a Christian.
At some point in your walk as a Christian you will have to lean on faith when there's no evidence. Now Faith is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of Things Not Seen. Hebrews 11:1
As a relationship grows with the Lord, yes...there will be times when the waters are deep, the vision is not clear and His voice seems to have gone silent. We're to trust His heart when we can't see His hand during those times. The Psalmist notes those times often, but the *EVIDENCE* has already been observed by past experiences as your relationship has grown.
I would ask the question in the other order. Does faith leave no room for knowledge. When you have faith that Adam and Eve existed, Noah made a boat and other stories. Do you reject the knowledge that these stories are false, because there is no room for knowledge when you have faith?
On the contrary, faith has plenty of room for knowledge, for every Christian at the time when Christianity spread like a wildfire all had faith because of the empirical evidence. Biblical faith, derived from the Greek word "pistis" is defined as faith that is supported by the empirical evidence. Therefore they believed because the evidence showed that what they believed was true and that included the stories from the Tanak (the Old Testament). You are conflating what so many define as faith today as having trust in something without any evidence: So in effect the faith your are describing, "blind faith," does not leave any room for knowledge which I would presume is why so many atheists reject the notion of God, or any god because they'd rather have faith that everything we see today came about by chance when the data shows otherwise.
@@robertdunn1800 what evidence was showed? Story from my country is that they were not shown evidence. But was shown tricks like putting hand in fire without getting burned. "you are conflating" I believe that you are the one conflating. Can you actually show that belief in christianity is based on empirical evidence? But that is a bit broad, can you show each claim that the bible asserts, that you believe in, has empirical evidence? I like how you ignored the examples I cave where knowledge is rejected by the christian faith, because apparently there is no room for knowledge because of faith.
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction . We know that God exists with knowledge that is given to us by God Then we but our trust in him(faith).
@Some Random Since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, we can clearly see his invisible qualities: his eternal power and divine nature. So we have no excuse for not knowing God. Jesus’ nature and abilities were divine (healing sickness, recreating body parts and defeating death); He said: “I, and the Father, are one...” and “If you have seen me, you have seen the Father.” Jesus was the human form of God so that we, in our imperfection, could have a glimpse at what perfect looked like...no human can see God and live (without believing in Christ’s redemptive sacrifice and, ultimately, being transformed into His likeness when He next reveals Himself to the world). This has been His message to every nation and people group since His life, death and resurrection...if you want to see God, know God and experience His love, power and presence in your mind, heart, soul and everyday life...believe. Ask Him with an open, humble heart to reveal Himself to you and receive Him when he does, then your life will explode with vision, purpose and fulfilment that you have never experienced before. Pray: “God, I’m not sure about a lot of things in this life...including you and your existence. If You are truly there and You love and care for me enough to make an entire universe to reflect your eternal power and divine nature and to offer Jesus as the sacrifice for my sin [that separates me from You], come in to my life, heart and soul right now, in Jesus’ name. Help me to see your hand in my circumstances and to feel Your presence in my life. Bring people across my path to help me on the pathway to knowing You. In Jesus’ name...amen.
So if you deny that God exists or "lack" belief in God's existence, doesn't that mean that you have to believe *THAT* naturalism is true? Does such a person have faith *IN* naturalism? Is there another option? _Anyone?_
I kind of struggled to follow this one (I don't often use words like "epistemic" in my day to day life), but it was interesting. Some commenters pointed out that a more serious issue is the problem of hearing God's word, yet rejecting him still. In particular, the absolute submission to sin and both the degradation of life and eternal damnation that comes with it. I think most people do not wish to accept God's existence rather than intellectually joust with God's existence. I think that's more of a problem than the jousting itself. Perhaps what I saw is an attempt to joust?
And this is the problem with over intellectualising our relationship with God, you start to go round and round in a word salad until you hit your brain power limit, and never get intimate with Him. It like reading about adventures versus just going out and living them. Our God lives, just reach out.
God verifies and confirms our faith in the gospel (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) when we believe it through giving us his Holy Spirit. Such a thing gives assurance to the believer that they are saved and that their salvation can't be lost. If you believe that salvation can be lost then you should question whether or not you are truly saved to begin with and then truly get saved through believing (trusting) the gospel (1 Corinthians 15:1-4). You have to be assured of your salvation in order to truly have it, if you doubt that you have it then more than likely you don't have it.
You have to have knowledge in order to apply faith. Nobody puts there faith or trust into thin air. The two go hand in hand. I believe God exist based upon the knowledge i receive from his word and creations; because i beleive God exist I put my faith and trust in God.
So basically, using common definitions knowledge and faith are exclusive(he said himself that he doesn't use biblical definition). So he just redefines concepts to prove that originally they aren't exclusive? it doesn't work that way.
At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Mathew 11:25.
Regrettably, too few, whether Christians or atheists, will ever take the time to look up what Pistis is - a spirit of laziness hovers over one too many individuals - for if they did, then they would know why Christians back in the time of Yeshua all had faith, because their faith was backed by empirical evidence. Shalom.
@@electricspark5271 Electric, I've been seeing a lot of you lately. From one brother to another allow me to introduce myself. I'm Robert and it's a pleasure to meet another brother fighting the good fight in the name of truth. Shalom.
"Faith" is trusting in the words of Jesus or what the Lord says, because you know Him & trust His words. It's like a relationship. Do you have faith the your friend would do what he could do to save your life if you were in trouble? It's that.
Why does everything fall into the same trap of this blind faith definition, I hear it all the time described as "a firm belief, for which there is no evidence" ...and I just shake my head. The whole point is that when you are presented with evidence, what do you do with it.
Because it's Biblical. 'Faith is the essence of things hoped for, the evidence for things unseen.' Hebrews 11 'Blessed are those who have not seen, and yet believed.' Jesus to Thomas who wanted to see His wounds.
@@Tinesthia You're confused. Faith like trust is a response to supernatural events. In all cases God spoke to individuals, miracles were witnessed, or there was a report of such things happening. The verse in Hebrews goes on to say "By faith Abraham obeyed when he was "called" to go out to a place that he was to receive as an inheritance.". God spoke to Abraham. There is no blind faith involved here. He had to trust God that things would work out by leaving his home land. Jesus performed many miracles, but did everyone who witnessed them put faith in him as the Messiah? no. But many did. In the case of Thomas he lacked faith, because he had seen God's power working through Jesus, and yet demanded more evidence than what was already provided,. Whereas the other close disciples did not.
@@CanadianLoveKnot You literally just described a blind faith situation. "He had to trust..." What evidence was his trust based on? He had no way of knowing but went anyways. 'Trust' *without evidence.* The confusion is not mine. Read your Bible. "Faith is *essence of things hoped for,* the *evidence of things unseen".* If Faith simply meant trust, we wouldn't need the word faith. Thomas demanded evidence, but the others believed before having evidence and Jesus blessed them. This exactly proves my point. Jesus Himself prefers you just have faith/believe without evidence. Biblical blind faith is established over and over.
@@Tinesthia The evidence he had was that God spoke to him. I don't know how much clearer one can make this. If your father hands you a check to deposit at the bank, would you feel it is blind faith on your part to deposit the check? You don't have the money yet, but you have a promise. If he hands you the cash, there would be no trust or faith involved. Just like with God, he has made promises to those in former times, and they acted according to God's word and were rewarded. Pretty clear.
Faith is belief without evidence. Faith and trust are not the same thing. Trust is based on past experience. Knowledge is demonstrable. Faith is belief in things that cannot be demonstrated. These ideas cannot be held at the same time. Knowledge defeats faith and faith is belief in the absence of knowledge.
"Blind faith" is a belief in the absence of knowledge which is not to be conflated with Biblical faith. Biblical faith, as defined from the original Greek word "pistis" is having knowledge/trust based on empirical evidence which is why Christianity spread so quickly back in the days of Jesus.
@@robertdunn1800 all faith is assumed conclusion before evidence and to separate "blind faith" and "biblical faith" is an attempt conflate the term faith and trust. There is no difference between the two, they are both guilty of assuming the conclusion before the evidence is available and defending that conclusion against all reasons. Once knowledge is introduced in contradiction to the predetermined conclusion one has faith in, it is no longer faith to change one's beliefs. Saying "biblical faith" is more justified than "blind faith" is the same as saying "Koranic faith" is somehow more justified than "blind faith" since all faith is inherently blind.
@@TheEpicTricycle I'm sorry you think that is so but in reality it is people like you who try to conflate what is actual blind faith with biblical faith just by saying the word faith by itself. In spite of what a dictionary might define it as today, those of us with actual education and who have taken the time to define terms as they originally were from the etymologies of the words and the languages they were derived from know better. I would encourage you to do the same, this way you actually know what you are speaking of. Shalom.
@@robertdunn1800 if what you say about faith is true, than faith is a useless term. Just offer the evidence that backs up your faith, and you won't need the faith at all. If you already have evidence, than you have enough. What evidence do you have to justify believing that a God exists?
This guy hasn't even had enough knowledge to know that God exists, let alone putting faith in Him. The more you know about the Universe, the more evidence to show that God exists. The probability of atoms becoming the first cell is so small that mathematically, the time it would take far exceeds the life span of this Universe due to entropy. The laws of the Universe are so beautiful and precise you have to question if there's a designer, a Creator. When you have enough knowledge, you will know that everything we take for granted such as life on Earth is nothing short of a miracle. The Big Bang happened when God said "Let there be light".
My comment is simple, but the more I think about it, this is probably the best question I've heard so far. Kid is smart. Multiple levels to this question.
Some of these people asking these questions are very annoying because they think they know so much when they really know very little they trust too much in themself Not realizing that you can't go necessarily off of what you see in here because your eyes can deceive you your ears can deceive you all your senses can deceive you as an example I just saw a video where a white guy robbed a bank using a mask a theatrical Hollywood Style rubberized face mask any war tempted glasses behind the mask to changes eye color in the mask was of a black man and he wore gloves while robbing the bank multiple people called in saying they knew who the robber was and they led police to his home and when they got there his mom said I know why you're here my son rob the bank I saw it on TV she even believed her own son had done it later a woman called in and said that's not the right man my boyfriend is the one that robbed The bank when they went to check on him they found the mask she showed it to The police and they rested her boyfriend and found all the stuff it was in the black man at all it was a white man dressed as a black man If you would a trusted your senses which many people did in this case they believed that it was a black man who robbed the bank when in reality it was a white man so we can't go by our senses they will lead us astray
Some Random It is like Frank says. There is evidence that leads us to knowledge that God must exist. It is up to you to look into the evidence that has convinced millions of people. Faith is more like trust that we have in God. And there can only be one God as per definition. But we like to make small gods that are idols in our life and that is an abomination in God’s eyes 👀
@@evangelistkimpatrik what evidence has convinced you that a god exists? I have been searching for about 27 years now and haven't found anyevidemce that a god does or ever has existed. But I am curious what has convinced you?
Some Random The main evidence is Jesus Christ and the teachings of the New Testament. Then there is nature that points to a higher intelligence. Then there are logical reasonings that point to a God. There are also personal experiences that are in line with Christian teachings. For instance, being born again. Faith is a gift of God that I received in April 1996. That made me a believer. Before that I was basically spiritually dead. Atheists have closed their minds for God, even though they claim to be open minded. Their hearts have been hardened. I was open minded about God’s existence and then he, so to say, revealed himself to me. I would suggest that you pray about this. And keep an open heart and mind about the existence of God.
If faith is just trust, why not use the word trust instead? Faith is not just trust Biblically. Faith is the 'essence of things hoped for, the evidence for things unseen.' Hebrews 11. See also Jesus encourages blind faith, 'blessed are those who have not seen and yet believed.' When Thomas wanted evidence of His wounds.
@@sonofkingsolomon7900 Not just the Ten Commandments Son of King Solomon, they believe everything written within the Scriptures that comprise the Bible is mythical - regrettably.
@@sonofkingsolomon7900 I hadn't thought of it that way. Good point. Now, the question remains, how do we use this knowledge in a positive way to help the lost? Shalom.
Faith vs knowledge huh? Well, long ago God brought the Israelites out of Egypt by means of some spectacular plagues and disasters. After leaving Egypt He sent a tornado made of fire to stop the Egyptians from pursuing the Israelites while they cross the red sea that He parted. What was the first thing the Israelites did after crossing the red sea and seeing all these great and awesome miracles of God first hand? THEY BUILT A GOLD CALF TO WORSHIP. They saw with their own eyes what God was capable of and they still rejected Him. We can have all the knowledge in the world of who God is but that doesn't mean jack if we don't trust in him.
Saint Michael Pray for Us there plenty of people that "know dragons & vampires exist" too.. how do we determine the veracity & reason for that knowledge claim? evidence, sound arguments, critical thinking, falsifiable propositions, etc. otherwise i can just say that "I know that you don't know anything about god" & we end up still needing a way to analyze the claims
So what's at the end of the Earth and what's underneath it? I've never heard this explained. Does it drop off at the edges like a cliff? Is it like a giant coin?
When you pull a verse out of the context in which it was written, you can make it sound like the Bible is saying all kinds of things. We should read the Bible like we read other books, in that we should look for the point that the writer is making and look at what each statement says about that point rather than treating each verse like they can be isolated.
This young man thinks he's got it, like lots of them, as usual. Answer is: even if we have evidence that God exists as christians - He is still out there, and we are HERE. We're not in Heavenly Jerusalem now, we look as through glass (as Paul in the Bible puts it). Let's put it that way: say, God did miracle in your life, or He came to you. There, you know He exists, but you are HERE on earth, and He is THERE, that's why faith. +faith is trust in/to God and that He will raise us, that we are forgiven and we won't go to fire lake.
I dislike when people who believe they are brilliant always have to do circular reasoning. They keep going around and around. It is so much easier to just cry out to God and to the Savior Jesus and be saved. Then God just opens your eyes, heart and mind to know the truth...
It goes to the heart of the matter, which is the heart. It's a relationship which is known with the heart. This kid is all in his head. He has little knowledge of his own heart. Wisdom is enthroned on the heart. That's where Jesus rules.
Abraham knew god exists but that didnt save him, what saved him was trusting in god.
That's right. We relate with him through faith because He is Spiri. 🙂👍
Saved him from what?
@@Truthjustice23 saved him from what?
@@Zay-zg8js The Bible says the wages of sin is death. Once he accepted Jesus in his heart, he doesn't die, he just changes locations.
@@palerity6320 True
Honestly, i liked how this kid asked the question in different ways because the way he asked it each time allowed the answers to be confirmed in the specific parts of the question. It looks to me that he just wanted to understand the answer and not just know it if that makes sense. Very good in my opinion, all these videos help me soo muchh 😊
Sometimes asking the same question in different context helps explain an answer fully.
Hpweber, I think the kid should have wrote hos questions down. They were worded kinda confusing.
Right, to analysis and grasp the answer the question, the questioner asks to clarify the verdict
Yup you're nice lady female as these nice lads males are nice all great but not good! We aren't perfect. I'm nice *as long as I continue rejecting secular culture and violence even among Christians themselves* yeah of course Frank turek wasn't rude or rough here and if he's at least rough it's neccesary! Sometimes but yes being loving is also needed such as tough love as well. You're nice for showing empathy to our fellow brother in Christ amen hopefully.
He kept asking the same question, but in a different way.
Frank talks of two different things. The subject of the question was about two things, #1, the existence of God and #2, basically having faith in a religion that focuses on God. That is what he means by "belief that" when compared to "belief in".
#1 is conceptual knowledge of a "thing," and #2 is trust in said "thing."
Faith That = Belief in God's Existence
Faith In = Trust in God's Nature (Trust in His Character, His Attributes, His Person, etc.)
I thought I was trippin
Because frank doesn't answer questions. He talks around them meaning you have to ask the same thing over and over until frank finds a lie you're happy with
Right- if I see a chair- I know it’s supposed to support me when I sit in it because of my knowledge of what a chair is supposed to do- But I have to have faith when I sit in it- Because there’s still a chance it could collapse from up under me... So KNOWLEDGE and FAITH are different.
This kid seems determined to use a definition of "faith" that is false. Knowledge leads to informed faith. So many people seem to think that the only faith that is real is blind faith. Absolute nonsense. Blind faith is completely useless. Christianity is based on informed faith.
I think many people confuse faith with hope, in that the Bible says that hope seen is no longer hope. But that's because hope seen is hope fulfilled, which is no longer merely anticipated.
Enon Knives Bingo! Well said. I actually go to a bible study every other week that Frank leads, and just last week he talked about this. Faith is trusting in what you have good reason to believe is true. It’s not just blind faith as you pointed out.
Faith when it comes to religion means:
"strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof"
Like it or not THAT is the truth
@@ThomB50
"I have faith my wife won’t cheat on me. This is based on knowledge and established trust."
And is also based n facts like how she is with you. Also you could replace the word faith with trust and it would be just as accurate.
"I have faith God will save me from my sins. This is based on the knowledge I have of God and my established trust in God."
But based on spiritual convistion not proof.
Faith has two meaning and I very much doubt that when you have faith in your wide what you actually means is that you "Believe with no evidence that she is the supernatural creator of the universe that communes with you by magic"
The problem is that Muslims have exactly the same kind of informed faith. So whose informed faith is valid?
@@AttRandyReynolds the Muslims are commanded in the Quran to judge by the Gospel, the Quran claims the Gospel to be valid
We all know by knowledge that firefighters exist. And we know (knowledge)they are the only folk on earth who can save us from fire. But here’s the faith...if one is in a fire, who does one put their faith in to save from a burning building??? Police? A doctor? No! A firefighter. That’s faith IN an existing one that we have knowledge of. People just don’t like the fact that there is God and that we are to put our trust and faith in him, just like we would with a firefighter. God bless
Nope 1 trys to get out first, and if they cannot they hope a firefighter (someone they have evidence exists.) Saves them... but some might even prey to God and then give him the credit afterward.
Daniel Mione that’s true in a lot of cases. But the part that you’re leaving out is that people in fires usually can’t save themselves in most cases. Just like all of us in this world. We absolutely can’t get saved unless we trust in Jesus Christ the Lord because God is the only way to salvation. That’s my point.
tygamerforce that’s not the same. You’re implying suicide. You don’t have to believe and have faith in God. That’s the choice God have you. Bottom line is, just like everything else, we would have to wait and see. Based on my knowledge, I like my chances with trusting in God because that’s what I know and believe.
tygamerforce I get what you’re saying but that’s going off of subject. Suicide is a totally different subject
tygamerforce people tempt God in all aspects of life every day with what we do and how we live and the way that you tempt God is with sin but that is why we are to put away the way we do things and trusting God and try our hardest in our living to be a sin less as possible that is a totally different subject
Sharp and respectful young man.
I wonder who he is.
@@fromjayne4726 ...and where he is now, AND if he's come to faith yet ;)
Correct! Faith is trust in God. Just a side note, it's always God that always reach to us first, love us first, work for us first and shows evidence first that you can trust in Him, in His mercy, in His grace, in His power, in His fair judgement, in His wisdom and in His Love that had been shown through His Son Jesus Christ. If God didn't go first, we won't know Him personally.
Faith can also be trust that the Earth won't be destroyed in the next 5 minutes. Atheists have faith in certain things but it's difficult for them to admit it because of their arrogance and cowardice.
@@toarrestsomeoneistoviolate2643 Then please enlighten me on how I have faith in anything? Assuming we are going by definition, faith is belief without evidence.
@@catkit86 sorry, I don't know you personally but your definition of "faith" is quite interesting.
Do you claim to be a scientist?
@@toarrestsomeoneistoviolate2643 My definition of faith is quite standard. And if you consider scientist to work and have an education in science, then yes, I am.
@@catkit86 actually your definition of "faith" is quite redundant. The word "belief" already indicates a lack of evidence, thus it is unnecessary to add "without evidence" as part of that definition. What are your credentials in science? Can you provide evidence of your scientific findings and accolades or do you merely have faith that others will have faith in your claims?
Everybody has some sort of faith, nobody lives there lives without faith!
Supposing your statement to be true how does that prove the christian god and its religion?
Michael Ramos:Is a Muslim justified in his faith? I think people equivocate faith and confidence when they are clearly not synonymous.
Zay the statement wasn’t meant to prove the Christian god. Why would you assume that.
I'm assuming he watched the video for this comment section. What other reason would he have to place that comment under a video such as this?
correct you have to have faith in a chair before you sit in it, or a Red light to stop the other cars from slamming into you. That all faith. Now to have faith that the Bible is the Word of God most don't take the time to care. It's easier to say I believe than to trust, study, knowing. walking. That would be religion but a disciple is a knowledge of God a correct relationship. A trusting of what he says & does. A doer of the word, not just a hearer.
''Be as wise as a serpent BUT gentle as a dove''
Wow Dr Frank Turek is extremely intelligent. May God bless, protect and preserve this man and his knowledge. He single handedly roast confusers every single time. Imagine if someone of his knowledge and wisdom is around to answer this particular boys questions so easily he might have become the Atheist Scientists or another Christopher Hitchens someday but am glad Dr Frank Turek pieced it for him, God bless you Dr Frank Turek 🙏🏽❤️ we need Christian genius like him.
I respect the kid for asking that question and being reasonable.
Lol
I don't know if my first post went through, I'll repost it. "He kept asking the same question, but in different ways."
It did go through
it went through
Beautiful example of a kid who wanted so bad to be smarter than Frank Turek but was also interested in following the logic/reasoning.
The chillest CE video. Very relaxing
God bless
That was a really good question and interaction
Thank you sir.!
The choice of the will is key.
What a fascinating conversation
He over-analyzed to the point of confusion.
Understandable, I am guilty of doing the same thing.
I find interesting how people keep commenting base on a preconception of the bible and God and religión, ignoring that christianity and Jesus and the bible has been studied for centuries in an scientific and historical way. I am glad that at least they are searching and joining the conversation. Blessings!
I think the questioner did a great job of clarifying exactly what Turek means by “faith in God”
If there is a person beside me, I know beyond a shadow of a doubt they exist, but if I hand them the keys to my car, I have faith they can drive my car without wrecking, or stealing it. That’s the difference.
Accurate
This kind of intellectualization is skirting around the point that most people just don't want God. As Jesus said, “And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil." John 3:19 NKJV
So the "I can't believe without evidence" argument is not what it's about at all. It's people's love for sin and fear of coming into the light to have their sins exposed. It's pride and a love for their sin that holds people back from God. Not a lack of evidence.
God said He created the world, man said it's an accident. God said He gave us His word, men said it's a fake. God said He sent His Son, men said He's a liar. Everything God has done has been resisted by man for that one reason. The refusal to give up their sin and be accountable to God. The evidence is there and the offer of salvation is still available but most will still not come to Him. In their hearts they know and they are without excuse.
Well said, God bless.
True
Truer words have not been spoken.
Trucker_Pete gets many things wrong about other people.
How can he have the Holy Spirit guiding him when he is so wrong?
What you said is true and the primary and true reason for unbelief, but doesn't address the man's point, it merely dismisses it. Faith IS our evidence of things unseen, as believers. This is the problem with Frank's "evidence" based belief and the entire trend toward evidence based belief. Frank says, don't come to Jesus, come to the evidence---that's a direct quote. This is error. The Antichrist will provide convincing evidence he is god. Then what will Christians say? Don't believe evidence? Blessed are those who believe and do not see.
This guys conversation is the talking we had while High in the 60's hey man is that an object.
To love is to have faith. To have faith is to love.
Faith comes by hearing and hearing the word of God.
Knowledge is involved
Faith in our senses and faith in experience is still faith. Somewhere along the line we have to take a stance that the world is knowable and we experience things and have some trust in ourselves and others to some degree. Along the way we see cause and affect in our lives and add this to our knowledge base. If I hear the sound of rain outside -- but am not by the window - I do not have to run to the window to confirm its raining outside. Based of previous experience it is quite reasonable to assume its raining. If you are that uptight --- time to lighten up. Cheers.
Trust and knowledge doesn't oppose each other, you begin with trust and end with knowing...
I relay enjoyed this.
Very intelligent, respectable young man.
I think this guy has a point (if I can understand where he is trying to go). I am a Christian, but would say I slightly differ with the way Frank said this one. I don't think the knowledge we have is objective that God exists. A much stronger case can be made for His existence with the evidence and we should follow the evidence where it leads. This will give us good reason to believe God exists especially when compared with the alternatives. Frank often says he could be wrong, but here it sounds like he is saying with the knowledge we have, the existence of God is objective. I don't think we can objectively prove it.
I also feel like the whole design of God is about trusting in Him and building that relationship. Let's says God came down every couple of years and proved to us He existed. Then we would say we have objective knowledge that God exists. But would we then follow Him out of love and trust? Or would it be obligation and a desire to achieve the status of heaven? It would infringe on the whole idea of free will.
This question is based in misconception of the Word from the get go. Understandable, but we see this too often with non-believers that they hold a view that is so far off from what text states.
The modern skeptic thinks believing God exists is the hurdle.
It isn't.
90% of the world already believes in the supernatural. That's not a hurdle.
The hurdle is TRUSTING God, as a person who has goals, who has covenants, who expects something from us.
Just look at Kanye. He's been talking ABOUT God taking his goodness and existence for granted for 10 years in the public eye.
But he didn't trust IN God.
Hence, the need for operational definitions -- defining our terms. That's why Frank & other apologists will often ask, "What do you by that?"
You can believe that a parachute can save you but it isn’t until you jump out the plane you put trust in it
you can trust a knot exists for rappelling, but you also trust IN that knot to hold your weight.
What you believe in is your faith. If there is truth, then your faith must be put in that truth no matter what for that's how faith works. Once you've acknowledge the truth in front of yourselves, then you have faith in that truth. Your faith must always dependent on your truth.
Thank you Jesus! Nuff said 😀
Well, every time you drop a book you have "faith" (in the form of trust) that it will hit the ground, because you have "knowledge" of gravity.
Amen
Nice
Sheesh. My brain hurts after that exchange.
We went all around the houses there to answer a fairly simple question...
Smart kid
You should have faith in your knowledge and knowledge of your faith
I think, more importantly, people need to stop confusing faith and trust. That are NOT the same, they are NOT synonyms. Analogies/metaphors/parables are prone to criticism of “the fallacy of...” but this is important for the lay and the learned(!!!) to stop confusing the two.
A person walks in the noon day sun on a trail in the woods he’s never been on. His eyes, which he has years of sensory data to lean on, allow him to TRUST that the path before him is indeed there. At night, he keeps walking, but under the cover of the dense canopy, he can’t see the path. He pulls out a flashlight, which he TRUSTS in the flashlight’s luminous quality, to see 6’/2 meters ahead of him. Not being able to see the path beyond the very limited area beyond his senses, he has FAITH that he is on the right path AND that it will continue while TRUSTING that for the couple of feet/meters ahead of him he can see is true. The battery dies on the flashlight, so he continues walking in complete darkness having BLIND FAITH that he is on a path AND that the path continues. He died because the woods led to a cliff. Blind faith kills. Faith is in what you cannot trust, but is only rational when it coincides with something you can trust. Trust is based on sensory or reasonable (maybe even rational) facts (objective may be true, but a different argument).
Please stop confusing the terms, especially if you are a Christian.
The question was answered in the first minute and a half, and the rest was untwisting the mental gymnastics of the questioner.
At some point in your walk as a Christian you will have to lean on faith when there's no evidence.
Now Faith is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of Things Not Seen. Hebrews 11:1
As a relationship grows with the Lord, yes...there will be times when the waters are deep, the vision is not clear and His voice seems to have gone silent. We're to trust His heart when we can't see His hand during those times. The Psalmist notes those times often, but the *EVIDENCE* has already been observed by past experiences as your relationship has grown.
I would ask the question in the other order.
Does faith leave no room for knowledge.
When you have faith that Adam and Eve existed, Noah made a boat and other stories. Do you reject the knowledge that these stories are false, because there is no room for knowledge when you have faith?
On the contrary, faith has plenty of room for knowledge, for every Christian at the time when Christianity spread like a wildfire all had faith because of the empirical evidence. Biblical faith, derived from the Greek word "pistis" is defined as faith that is supported by the empirical evidence. Therefore they believed because the evidence showed that what they believed was true and that included the stories from the Tanak (the Old Testament). You are conflating what so many define as faith today as having trust in something without any evidence: So in effect the faith your are describing, "blind faith," does not leave any room for knowledge which I would presume is why so many atheists reject the notion of God, or any god because they'd rather have faith that everything we see today came about by chance when the data shows otherwise.
@Robert Dunn I would like to see the valid data that everything we see today could not have come into existence naturally.
@@randallanderson1632 and people in hell want ice water, doesn't mean they'll get it.
@William Stanley Yeah. Invisible "data" shows that there is a god out there, or at least was at one time.
@@robertdunn1800 what evidence was showed? Story from my country is that they were not shown evidence. But was shown tricks like putting hand in fire without getting burned.
"you are conflating" I believe that you are the one conflating. Can you actually show that belief in christianity is based on empirical evidence? But that is a bit broad, can you show each claim that the bible asserts, that you believe in, has empirical evidence?
I like how you ignored the examples I cave where knowledge is rejected by the christian faith, because apparently there is no room for knowledge because of faith.
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction .
We know that God exists with knowledge that is given to us by God
Then we but our trust in him(faith).
How do you know that a god exists? What method did you use to determine that?
@@somerandom3247 creation is one and a miracle that I witness
@Some Random
Since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, we can clearly see his invisible qualities: his eternal power and divine nature. So we have no excuse for not knowing God.
Jesus’ nature and abilities were divine (healing sickness, recreating body parts and defeating death); He said: “I, and the Father, are one...” and “If you have seen me, you have seen the Father.”
Jesus was the human form of God so that we, in our imperfection, could have a glimpse at what perfect looked like...no human can see God and live (without believing in Christ’s redemptive sacrifice and, ultimately, being transformed into His likeness when He next reveals Himself to the world).
This has been His message to every nation and people group since His life, death and resurrection...if you want to see God, know God and experience His love, power and presence in your mind, heart, soul and everyday life...believe. Ask Him with an open, humble heart to reveal Himself to you and receive Him when he does, then your life will explode with vision, purpose and fulfilment that you have never experienced before.
Pray: “God, I’m not sure about a lot of things in this life...including you and your existence. If You are truly there and You love and care for me enough to make an entire universe to reflect your eternal power and divine nature and to offer Jesus as the sacrifice for my sin [that separates me from You], come in to my life, heart and soul right now, in Jesus’ name. Help me to see your hand in my circumstances and to feel Your presence in my life. Bring people across my path to help me on the pathway to knowing You. In Jesus’ name...amen.
So if you deny that God exists or "lack" belief in God's existence, doesn't that mean that you have to believe *THAT* naturalism is true? Does such a person have faith *IN* naturalism? Is there another option? _Anyone?_
I kind of struggled to follow this one (I don't often use words like "epistemic" in my day to day life), but it was interesting. Some commenters pointed out that a more serious issue is the problem of hearing God's word, yet rejecting him still. In particular, the absolute submission to sin and both the degradation of life and eternal damnation that comes with it. I think most people do not wish to accept God's existence rather than intellectually joust with God's existence. I think that's more of a problem than the jousting itself. Perhaps what I saw is an attempt to joust?
We walk by faith, not by sight. We use reason to reach God, but we cannot perceive Him with our senses. Therefore, we need both reason and faith.
The tree being green could be subjective as people do see shades of colors in the spectrum differently.😁
And this is the problem with over intellectualising our relationship with God, you start to go round and round in a word salad until you hit your brain power limit, and never get intimate with Him. It like reading about adventures versus just going out and living them. Our God lives, just reach out.
Imagine this guy as a food critic.
His definition of faith is then basically "to believe in something which you cannot know or observe". Which is wrong... faith is trust.
Stephen Hawking also believed the theory of everything yet we do not know if it really exists.
Facts don't necessarily lead to faith. You have to have faith in what is being said.
God verifies and confirms our faith in the gospel (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) when we believe it through giving us his Holy Spirit.
Such a thing gives assurance to the believer that they are saved and that their salvation can't be lost.
If you believe that salvation can be lost then you should question whether or not you are truly saved to begin with and then truly get saved through believing (trusting) the gospel (1 Corinthians 15:1-4).
You have to be assured of your salvation in order to truly have it, if you doubt that you have it then more than likely you don't have it.
Biblical knowledge/know is intimacy. And Biblical Faith is a question of Who.
You have to have knowledge in order to apply faith. Nobody puts there faith or trust into thin air. The two go hand in hand. I believe God exist based upon the knowledge i receive from his word and creations; because i beleive God exist I put my faith and trust in God.
Did i get it?
Knowledge is knowing God is exist.
Faithful is putting trust in God.
So basically, using common definitions knowledge and faith are exclusive(he said himself that he doesn't use biblical definition). So he just redefines concepts to prove that originally they aren't exclusive? it doesn't work that way.
At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Mathew 11:25.
'Pistis' my boy, look it up
THANK YOU!
Regrettably, too few, whether Christians or atheists, will ever take the time to look up what Pistis is - a spirit of laziness hovers over one too many individuals - for if they did, then they would know why Christians back in the time of Yeshua all had faith, because their faith was backed by empirical evidence.
Shalom.
Yup!
@@electricspark5271 Electric, I've been seeing a lot of you lately. From one brother to another allow me to introduce myself. I'm Robert and it's a pleasure to meet another brother fighting the good fight in the name of truth.
Shalom.
@@robertdunn1800 amen!
It is difficult to answer questions when the questioner is incoherent.
Faith is not did Jesus exist, it’s faith in who He says He is and what He did on the cross for our salvation
"Faith" is trusting in the words of Jesus or what the Lord says, because you know Him & trust His words. It's like a relationship. Do you have faith the your friend would do what he could do to save your life if you were in trouble? It's that.
It's amusing to me how people always want to somehow Trust there way out of Heaven.
Why does everything fall into the same trap of this blind faith definition, I hear it all the time described as "a firm belief, for which there is no evidence" ...and I just shake my head. The whole point is that when you are presented with evidence, what do you do with it.
Because it's Biblical.
'Faith is the essence of things hoped for, the evidence for things unseen.' Hebrews 11
'Blessed are those who have not seen, and yet believed.' Jesus to Thomas who wanted to see His wounds.
@@Tinesthia You're confused. Faith like trust is a response to supernatural events. In all cases God spoke to individuals, miracles were witnessed, or there was a report of such things happening. The verse in Hebrews goes on to say "By faith Abraham obeyed when he was "called" to go out to a place that he was to receive as an inheritance.". God spoke to Abraham. There is no blind faith involved here. He had to trust God that things would work out by leaving his home land. Jesus performed many miracles, but did everyone who witnessed them put faith in him as the Messiah? no. But many did. In the case of Thomas he lacked faith, because he had seen God's power working through Jesus, and yet demanded more evidence than what was already provided,. Whereas the other close disciples did not.
@@CanadianLoveKnot
You literally just described a blind faith situation. "He had to trust..." What evidence was his trust based on? He had no way of knowing but went anyways. 'Trust' *without evidence.*
The confusion is not mine. Read your Bible. "Faith is *essence of things hoped for,* the *evidence of things unseen".* If Faith simply meant trust, we wouldn't need the word faith.
Thomas demanded evidence, but the others believed before having evidence and Jesus blessed them. This exactly proves my point. Jesus Himself prefers you just have faith/believe without evidence. Biblical blind faith is established over and over.
@@Tinesthia
pistis: faith, faithfulness
Original Word: πίστις, εως, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: pistis
Phonetic Spelling: (pis'-tis)
Definition: faith, faithfulness
Usage: faith, belief, trust, confidence; fidelity, faithfulness.
@@Tinesthia The evidence he had was that God spoke to him. I don't know how much clearer one can make this. If your father hands you a check to deposit at the bank, would you feel it is blind faith on your part to deposit the check? You don't have the money yet, but you have a promise. If he hands you the cash, there would be no trust or faith involved. Just like with God, he has made promises to those in former times, and they acted according to God's word and were rewarded. Pretty clear.
Faith is belief without evidence. Faith and trust are not the same thing. Trust is based on past experience.
Knowledge is demonstrable. Faith is belief in things that cannot be demonstrated. These ideas cannot be held at the same time. Knowledge defeats faith and faith is belief in the absence of knowledge.
"Blind faith" is a belief in the absence of knowledge which is not to be conflated with Biblical faith. Biblical faith, as defined from the original Greek word "pistis" is having knowledge/trust based on empirical evidence which is why Christianity spread so quickly back in the days of Jesus.
@@robertdunn1800 all faith is assumed conclusion before evidence and to separate "blind faith" and "biblical faith" is an attempt conflate the term faith and trust. There is no difference between the two, they are both guilty of assuming the conclusion before the evidence is available and defending that conclusion against all reasons. Once knowledge is introduced in contradiction to the predetermined conclusion one has faith in, it is no longer faith to change one's beliefs. Saying "biblical faith" is more justified than "blind faith" is the same as saying "Koranic faith" is somehow more justified than "blind faith" since all faith is inherently blind.
@@TheEpicTricycle I'm sorry you think that is so but in reality it is people like you who try to conflate what is actual blind faith with biblical faith just by saying the word faith by itself. In spite of what a dictionary might define it as today, those of us with actual education and who have taken the time to define terms as they originally were from the etymologies of the words and the languages they were derived from know better. I would encourage you to do the same, this way you actually know what you are speaking of.
Shalom.
@@robertdunn1800 what evidence is there that separates "biblical faith" from "blind faith?"
@@robertdunn1800 if what you say about faith is true, than faith is a useless term. Just offer the evidence that backs up your faith, and you won't need the faith at all. If you already have evidence, than you have enough.
What evidence do you have to justify believing that a God exists?
This guy hasn't even had enough knowledge to know that God exists, let alone putting faith in Him. The more you know about the Universe, the more evidence to show that God exists. The probability of atoms becoming the first cell is so small that mathematically, the time it would take far exceeds the life span of this Universe due to entropy. The laws of the Universe are so beautiful and precise you have to question if there's a designer, a Creator. When you have enough knowledge, you will know that everything we take for granted such as life on Earth is nothing short of a miracle. The Big Bang happened when God said "Let there be light".
Jesus is my Prophet, Priest and King.
To believe in free will is a sin.
very interesting discussion
I just accidentally gave this video its 666th like. I'm not sure what to make of this.
This is a disaster. Faith has multiple definitions and they’re batting them around like pucks on an air hockey table
One thing isn't everything. Therefore, nothing exists. Come on, dude.
My comment is simple, but the more I think about it, this is probably the best question I've heard so far. Kid is smart. Multiple levels to this question.
Incredible question
Some of these people asking these questions are very annoying because they think they know so much when they really know very little they trust too much in themself Not realizing that you can't go necessarily off of what you see in here because your eyes can deceive you your ears can deceive you all your senses can deceive you as an example
I just saw a video where a white guy robbed a bank using a mask a theatrical Hollywood Style rubberized face mask any war tempted glasses behind the mask to changes eye color in the mask was of a black man and he wore gloves while robbing the bank multiple people called in saying they knew who the robber was and they led police to his home and when they got there his mom said I know why you're here my son rob the bank I saw it on TV she even believed her own son had done it later a woman called in and said that's not the right man my boyfriend is the one that robbed The bank when they went to check on him they found the mask she showed it to The police and they rested her boyfriend and found all the stuff it was in the black man at all it was a white man dressed as a black man
If you would a trusted your senses which many people did in this case they believed that it was a black man who robbed the bank when in reality it was a white man so we can't go by our senses they will lead us astray
Faith is trust in God. We already know he exists as Christians. 😉
How do you know that a god exists?
Some Random It is like Frank says. There is evidence that leads us to knowledge that God must exist. It is up to you to look into the evidence that has convinced millions of people. Faith is more like trust that we have in God. And there can only be one God as per definition. But we like to make small gods that are idols in our life and that is an abomination in God’s eyes 👀
@@evangelistkimpatrik what evidence has convinced you that a god exists?
I have been searching for about 27 years now and haven't found anyevidemce that a god does or ever has existed. But I am curious what has convinced you?
Some Random The main evidence is Jesus Christ and the teachings of the New Testament. Then there is nature that points to a higher intelligence. Then there are logical reasonings that point to a God. There are also personal experiences that are in line with Christian teachings. For instance, being born again. Faith is a gift of God that I received in April 1996. That made me a believer. Before that I was basically spiritually dead. Atheists have closed their minds for God, even though they claim to be open minded. Their hearts have been hardened. I was open minded about God’s existence and then he, so to say, revealed himself to me. I would suggest that you pray about this. And keep an open heart and mind about the existence of God.
If faith is just trust, why not use the word trust instead? Faith is not just trust Biblically. Faith is the 'essence of things hoped for, the evidence for things unseen.' Hebrews 11. See also Jesus encourages blind faith, 'blessed are those who have not seen and yet believed.' When Thomas wanted evidence of His wounds.
His preconceived position or worldview is inhibiting his gnosticism.
"Atheists" are forced to know what a god is.
They know from myths, movies, legends, video games, comic books, etc. The concept is easy to establish.
@@IndianaJoe0321 "Atheists" are saying the 10 commandments are a myth
@@sonofkingsolomon7900 Not just the Ten Commandments Son of King Solomon, they believe everything written within the Scriptures that comprise the Bible is mythical - regrettably.
@@robertdunn1800 They're thinking their ancestors are liars.
@@sonofkingsolomon7900 I hadn't thought of it that way. Good point. Now, the question remains, how do we use this knowledge in a positive way to help the lost?
Shalom.
aw i wanted to hear the "if God is real, would you believe in Him?" question lol
This young man is a victim of progressive definitions. Good questions. Bit smug.
Faith vs knowledge huh? Well, long ago God brought the Israelites out of Egypt by means of some spectacular plagues and disasters. After leaving Egypt He sent a tornado made of fire to stop the Egyptians from pursuing the Israelites while they cross the red sea that He parted. What was the first thing the Israelites did after crossing the red sea and seeing all these great and awesome miracles of God first hand? THEY BUILT A GOLD CALF TO WORSHIP. They saw with their own eyes what God was capable of and they still rejected Him. We can have all the knowledge in the world of who God is but that doesn't mean jack if we don't trust in him.
I don't think Frank was understanding that this dude just extracted the fact that a knowledge claim of god makes basically 0 sense
Saint Michael Pray for Us there plenty of people that "know dragons & vampires exist" too.. how do we determine the veracity & reason for that knowledge claim?
evidence, sound arguments, critical thinking, falsifiable propositions, etc.
otherwise i can just say that "I know that you don't know anything about god" & we end up still needing a way to analyze the claims
The answer is:
I see creation, I believe in God.
I kept knowledge from seeing creation, I have faith of the one true God being the God of the Bible.
The boy is trying so hard to portrait faith and trust as a fake but he is failing so bad. It goes a bit above his intellectual capabilities
Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven!✝️
This kid sounds very insecure.
Smug atheist trying to sound "intelligent" and the truth just boils him over.
Worldly faith is based in determination(s). God's faith de term the nations and get us outa here! Your trapped? .. Yeas..t'isk tisk
My friend believes the Earth is a round spinning water ball and I know the Earth is motionless and flat, biblically and scientifically.
Isaiah40:22 in time, more & more people are waking up!
@@mikeramos91 if we can get Pastor's to believe their Bible and not TNASA/SATAN and then start teaching the truth that will set them and Atheist free.
@@JesusIsaFlatEarther True...
So what's at the end of the Earth and what's underneath it? I've never heard this explained. Does it drop off at the edges like a cliff? Is it like a giant coin?
When you pull a verse out of the context in which it was written, you can make it sound like the Bible is saying all kinds of things. We should read the Bible like we read other books, in that we should look for the point that the writer is making and look at what each statement says about that point rather than treating each verse like they can be isolated.
This young man thinks he's got it, like lots of them, as usual. Answer is: even if we have evidence that God exists as christians - He is still out there, and we are HERE. We're not in Heavenly Jerusalem now, we look as through glass (as Paul in the Bible puts it).
Let's put it that way: say, God did miracle in your life, or He came to you. There, you know He exists, but you are HERE on earth, and He is THERE, that's why faith.
+faith is trust in/to God and that He will raise us, that we are forgiven and we won't go to fire lake.
I dislike when people who believe they are brilliant always have to do circular reasoning. They keep going around and around.
It is so much easier to just cry out to God and to the Savior Jesus and be saved. Then God just opens your eyes, heart and mind to know the truth...
So true.
KNOWLEDGE COMES FROM GOD. REMEMBER WHAT KING SOLOMON ASKED FOR WISDOM FROM GOD. THE KNOWLEDGE THAT GOD GIVES FREELY.
Faith is the spiritual gift of God - 1 Corinthians 12:9
It goes to the heart of the matter, which is the heart. It's a relationship which is known with the heart. This kid is all in his head. He has little knowledge of his own heart.
Wisdom is enthroned on the heart. That's where Jesus rules.
Hearts pump blood. Brains are the ones doing the knowledge bit.......