I’ve got 106k miles on my 2016 and I’m still on my OEM pads. I’ve used the exhaust brake for the entire time I’ve owned the truck. It’s getting relatively close to needing to change the pads (maybe another 10-15k). But I’ve been amazed at how amazingly my brakes have held up for this long. I’ve never gotten this kinda mileage out of any set of brakes ever, even including my stick vehicles. Pretty amazing for an 8,000lb truck! And no doubt, it sounds so much better once the problematic parts fall off 😂. Like mentioned above, the only time I don’t use it is on slick downhills because it can be too aggressive at times. Another time I’ll consciously turn it off is when I park the truck and know I’ll be starting it when it’s real cold in the AM. I’ve noticed if you leave it on and start the truck, it’ll engage high-idle a bit sooner than I’d prefer, personally. But I do love the “jet engine” sound once it engages on those real cold starts too! 😂
Is that really a good thing though? I would think overtime that they potentially could just go bad and if you need them in a true emergency situation, they may not be up to par.
One reason not to use the exhaust break. Saw a video on a guy that has a fleet of Rams that were having issues with the exhaust particulate filter plugging. One of his driver did not use the exhaust brake all the time and had fewer issues with the particulate filter. Just saying. Now he is towing a lot so that may be the difference (doing hot shot).
I have a 2005 5.9 dually and I put over 200,000 mi. on it before I changed brakes. My truck is a Manuel and Has made a lot of trips. I have done a lot of up grades to everything on it since We bought a fifth wheel and now I will put an exhaust brake on it. It will save on brakes and it WILL save your life when towing but you better put some thought into your drive train cause nothing is just free. Lots of added wear on drive components and associated maintenance of it.
Funny. I always use the exhaust brake and never had an issue with the turbo gunking up until the wife started driving it. Took it to the dealership for CEL and they told me I needed a new $9,000 turbo.. I was like ummm no thank you. I purchase a bottle of Wynn’s diesel turbo cleaner (purple bottle). Poured it into the tank and drove about 20 miles, cleared the CEL light as of this writing.
@5.9street_tractor14 The one the stealership was trying to tell me I needed. I ordered one from BD and had a local shop install it. Just over $3.5K, for everything. Way less than the stealership.
@@jacksondaniels8169 that explains it lol I ran a 68mm hx52 on my old 2nd gen also ran multiple hx35s , an s362 , an s364 and an s472 and none of them were more than 1200 new or used I always installed them myself it’s so easy I wouldn’t feel right paying someone but 3500 sounds much better given you paid someone to install it and bought new I assume but 9k is a slap in the face and a kick in the nuts I’d wanna SLAP that dealership salesman if that was me jesus😂😂😂
@@Tonka_6.7Also remember the 16's have the VGT turbo which is substantially more expensive than a 2nd or 3rd gen turbo. My truck is registered in TX but I'm currently residing in San Diego, so I gotta play the game because of the emissions Nazi's. Unfortunately, I don't have the area to do the work myself nor does my HOA allow working on vehicles in the driveway. I had a very reputable diesel shop in Ramona, CA do the work
We have two Rams. A 2500 gen 4 deleted and tuned, and a 22 3500 dually. When you run the exhaust break on both trucks unless the trucks are also in tow haul mode, the exhaust break barely kicks in and isn’t even noticeable.
@@JohnWargo93 I have looked high and low on where or who can hook me up to do the same. Failed on every corner. Guess I'll just admire yours.......dang.
@@kuyaali956 haha yeah man I hear ya it’s “the devil” now days… I grew up with a good group of guys who’ve been doing their own rigs forever. Comes in handy
My 6.4 hemi does not have exhaust brake, def, egr cooler, filter, regens, sensors, etc. I tow what you guys tow albeit at a higher rpm. Do the math before you reply
I drive a Ford F350 6.7 but I really appreciate your knowledge and advice. I’m always trying to learn more about my truck. Both yours and mine work about the same so thank you. Love the video.
Got a ‘18 6 speed. I use the full exhaust brake all the time and the service brakes are in mint condition. My friends make fun of me for using it all the time, but I really believe in the point you made about keeping the VGT clean and saving the service brakes.
The buttons aren't for trim levels, the auxiliary bank comes with the snow plow prep kit and is also possible to add separately. A Limited will have the little flippers if the truck isn't equipped with the auxiliary bank.
i've always used Exhaust braking / engine braking on my 05 F250 and my 19 F250, makes sense to me and i like the fact that i dont really have to touch the brake pedal ever unless im coming to a complete stop... probably reason why i have yet to need a new set of brakes on both so far. always moving..
I have a 2018 F-250. I would like to use them all the time too but when I activate the exhaust brake button the shifting changes. It takes longer to shift between gears or just stays on a high gear instead of shifting to a lower gear. The only way to make it shift to a higher gear while using the exhaust brake is to speed up. Don’t really like that.
Something I really like about the exhaust break as well: Basically, when you hit the brakes, you're loading the front end as most the brake force is applied on the front. With an exhaust brake, it's applying the braking on the rear end. It just feels so much nicer to have the heavy rear end brake feel and not dive the front end. I know these trucks have a HD front end that is really stiff, but that rear brake feeling vs loading the front just feels so much nicer to me
And it stops faster in emergency brake situation once you become skilled at driving with it the performance of the suspension and braking in mountainous terrain takes the truck in to the next level of the trucks performance in control during a loaded pick up box drive and In winter with 4 HD studded winter snow tires aka : snowflake spec and. Using 4WD and the engine brake combined with throttle control driving technique severe ice/snow storm driving the vehicle can stop twice as fast and steering control is paramount . Like you said the rear brakes get to take a big load off the front end letting all 4 brakes to work at high efficiency and bring the truck to a stop more easily . My brakes/ rotors are lasting much longer due to the engine brake sharing the load and a lot of the time the foot pedal brake is not needed on highway driving.
@@ski6712 Totally. I really wish I could justify a new ram 2500/3500 as a cali commuter but my trusty lb7 will have to do. After taking a cummins on a road trip I knew there wasn't anything better :)
Sorry young man, but those wheels look hideous. No way that truck could ever go off-roading, you'd clip every hidden rock. Like your effort for trying to share info, but that's not what a truck is about in the real world?
Great video. I was just reading about this third mode of the exhaust brake (auto exhaust brake) in the owner's manual this morning on my new MY23 Ram Rebel HD Cummins and as you described, it's actually good for the turbo. I'll be using the auto exhaust brake from now on.
That cold start is Sexy! I leave my exhaust break on most of the time . It’s a company vehicle and I take good care of it. In fact I am on the hunt for a 2023 or 24 Dually for personal use. Motorcycles, Jet skis, or the snow mobiles. You feel like a beast as you lift your foot off the throw. The sound is awesome.
Wonder what the cons are other than claiming it gunks the turbo up? I never use mine and dont have turbo issues. 270k miles. I dont like how agressive it can be, seems worse on the engine to have em downshift hard over 3k rpm. Also seems like it would gunk other stuff up like the emissions faster.
For the first 50k miles on my 2019 3500, the EB worked great in both full and automatic (with and without tow/haul mode). Now I've noticed that it kicks on only about 90% of the time but not even close to how aggressive it was. Hauling my 5th wheel it used to slow me down all the way to a stop but now I might lose just a few mph. Dealership just said, oh we'll do a software update. No change. They say it does kick on which is true - but I've driven it for 50k miles hauling a 5th wheel, I'd know if it wasn't working the same anymore.
I have a 2022 Ram 5500 as a work truck hauling roll off bins, I run the auto exhaust brake all the time as well despite if I’m heavy or not. Only turning on tow/haul if I’m over 4500-5000lbs.
My grandpa was a trucker and said its not good for the engine he only turned it on his semi when he went down steep and sketchy roads he uses it on his Cummins as well tho but only towing his camper
Semis have engine brake which is different to the exhaust brake, rams basically just close the exhaust making the engine to not blow as hard as if was open to slow it down, and the engine brake turns off the injectors
I was gonna watch this video until I saw the low profile wheels and tires on this diesel truck. Sorry not taking advice from anyone rolling around like that.....
Got a 2018 2500 Laramie with 64,000 miles 4 days ago. Watched this video, cruised around town in auto, and I swear the turbo feels more responsive. Leaving it on forever now.
Not true about the push buttons . You only get the push buttons if you have the auxiliary switches . If you don’t have the aux switches you get the lever style switches in any trim level
I tried using full exhaust brake on for a couple of months and I noticed my mpg went down to 14-15. 2019 2500 leveled on 35s. Without using it at all I’m back to 17-18. I’ll try auto mode to see what happens.
I have a bone stock 22 3500 quadcab long bed 4x4 Laramie. 20-21 mpg not towing, and 19-20 driving more aggressively if I'm late. I see all these sub 20 mpg claims online. Why are they so low?
My boss had a 2006 5 inch straight piped and he has 360k miles on the original turbo and the motor blew before the turbo did, his truck he pulled heavy with it all of the time, and he never had any problems, but these newer trucks I agree with you, that is the best bet
Dude, I'm atruck driver since the 80's. I Always have my exhaust brake on, setting 3. The only reason to change the setting is for lighter loads. Never go to 1, 2 is as far I go with light loads, downhill.
2015 ram dually 408 cid Cummins 4x4 with G56 transmission. Full exhaust brake since day one, empty, loaded or pulling. Also ever since it reach 36,000 miles around November/December of 2015 ( build date 03/2015, bought 06012015) the exhaust brake comes on in full mode every time it cranks up.
The purpose if the exhaust brake is to supplement the braking system and save brake wear. I run full brake for maintaining forward speed without Illuminating brake lights
Hey John thanks so much for this information I am new with diesel I just got one ram 3500 is as fancy as yours but it does have the EB I didn’t know all this information. So Thank you thank you.
And one good reason not to...because you've gotten rid of that OEM VGT garbage and upgraded your turbo. One of the best mods I've ever done on my 4th gen.
i just got my ram 1500 3 days ago and i noticed it likes to slow down faster than im use to when i let go of the gas....ill have to look and see if the exhaust break is on
PSA I want my truck deleted but im. not sure how to do so. I know there are guys out there that can help me I will drive to you no problem I just don't know what im doing and I don't want to tear anything up. I have a 5th gen ram 3500 dually.
New diesel owner here so thank you for the info. Will running the exhaust break on the automatic setting make the def fluid run empty at a faster rate?
Not that I’m aware of, no. The DEF fluid gets consumed under load of the engine, shouldn’t have anything to do with the exhaust brake. For example, when I would tow, it would consume DEF quicker than just driving around empty.
@JOHN WARGO I must have something going on then my def goes from full to empty in 10 days i guess I'll have to get it into the shop. I have a 2020 dodge ram 2500 maybe 10 days is normal lol thanks again for the info
@@BengalsGuy damn! After buying my truck brand new I put on 4K miles before I needed to fill up at all. I put 8k miles on my truck before deleting and only filled my tank 2x in my 8k miles.
Not sure if you noticed but the Exhaust brake is a LOT more powerful when you put it on Full and you push the nice little Tow button beside it. At least I find the braking a lot more aggressive. I use the Tow/Full combo when I'm towing something heavy.
@@JohnWargo93 I have my 2017 3500 at the dealership because the exhaust break is acting weird. They told me it was normal and to only use it when I’m hauling. When it’s in full exhaust break it only stays on till the truck down shifts and turns off. In tow haul it turns off and on, off and on…. I asked about the actuator and the potential damage to the turbo and they said they would call me back. That was almost 2 hours ago… 😑
I'm an engineer/operator firefighter. Rule #1 with exhaust brakes. DO NOT USE WHEN RAINING, IN SLEET OR SNOW. It will cause your back end to brake loose and can cause you to lose control.
@@4truth69 The thing is... With the exhaust brake on (Full or auto) and cruise control set, the truck downshifts to control speed.- The exhaust brake does not even activate despite it being on. Turn cruise control off and the exhaust brake is enabled again.
I have a 2018 cummins 125k been doing this since I bought it new but turbo just went out a few days ago I have a fleece cheetah suppose to be here next week tho 😊
Thanks for the info! Question for anyone with a 2011-2016 F250. My 2015 F250 doesn’t have an auto exhaust brake, only on or off. Is there any benefit to driving with it on full time? I wish I had an auto mode like the Ram.
Appreciate the support! I’m personally not a fan of driving with it on “full” all the time only because I enjoy coasting to stops and whatnot to save fuel. With it on “full” all the time it slows the truck down any time you let your foot off the throttle causing you to keep on throttle more than not burning more fuel.
Well we’ll we’ll… now I’ve got more questions after watching this than I had before watching it. This is what my 2014 f250 6.2 gasser dose every time I let off the gas or when going down a hill. Also down hill when it hits a certain speed/rpm the exhaust suddenly starts growling. Tow haul mode dosent seem to do a lot at times. The trucks used n I know it’s got a tune on it for sure but didn’t notice most of these things until I put some spintech mufflers on it. My 04 f250 5.4 gasser never did this and would coast for ever unlike my newer 14 f250. Any help???
Don’t now if you’ll remember me but I actually won the lasfit bulbs giveaway you had a few years ago. A bunch of stuff happened in life and I never got around to installing them and I found them in a drawer . Well I installed them about a week ago . Then on a whim I traded that truck for a 2024 2500 duramax . Googled “when to use the exhaust brake “ and it brought me back to your channel . Crazy how life works
does all that back pressure cause seals to go out or cause stuff to wear out ? I really don't wanna break down so I'm askin questions I teach electrician so call yall teach me f350 dually 6.7 powerstroke
So..... just curious, If i was towing a heavy haul and the trailer has electric brakes.... the use of the exhaust brake to slow down the vehicle seems kinda dangerous especially down hill, nothing assisting the truck on the trailer end. Ive experienced slips or free wheel spin over a bridge pulling a trailer the same can be said for slowing down
Probably depends on weather and road conditions. I’d be more cautious with wet roads, but anything dry I use engine break when towing 100%. Going up and down the Smokey Mountains I never have to touch my break pedal at all. I generally let the engine break slow me and my load down but I do see your point, it’s valid.
Exhaust break the mean is just don’t apply the break ? Use the truck weight to decrease the speed . That’s call the exhaust break? Sorry I’m first time heard that.
No, the exhaust break is a button you press to turn on the “exhaust break”. All diesel trucks have them. It helps the truck slow down using back pressure from the engine/turbo. I’m big rigs/semi trucks it’s called a Jake break.
Honestly never looked into it. At 42k miles now and it’s been in “auto” all those 42k miles except “full” for the 12k tow miles. Never drove it without.
Chill out Karen, it’s the douche dongs who blow black smoke on Priuses, crowds, cops, etc. that’s ruining it for everyone. I generally made a reference since the tune kicks my EB on each time on startup. And to make reference as to why it sounds so much better and louder than stock otherwise I’d get 1001 questions asking why theirs doesn’t sound the same or kick on automatically. I’m not doing anything harmful enough or getting enough attention for the EPA to care 🤷🏻♀️
Use mine since day one. I have a 2022 long horn 2500. I have 16,000 miles already and agree with all of your points. Not towing, I’m getting 21mpg and have not done the delete. Question, does the delete void your warranty?
@@JohnWargo93 care to share how you did the delete? Did you do it yourself or find someone willing to do it? And also, did you check your mpg before and after, and what were the results?
@@HardKnocks101 had a shop do it all 100%.. from sourcing parts to the entire job. Gained about 2mpg total both highway and daily driving. Nothing crazy, but the power gain is nice 👍
I’ve got 106k miles on my 2016 and I’m still on my OEM pads. I’ve used the exhaust brake for the entire time I’ve owned the truck. It’s getting relatively close to needing to change the pads (maybe another 10-15k). But I’ve been amazed at how amazingly my brakes have held up for this long. I’ve never gotten this kinda mileage out of any set of brakes ever, even including my stick vehicles. Pretty amazing for an 8,000lb truck!
And no doubt, it sounds so much better once the problematic parts fall off 😂. Like mentioned above, the only time I don’t use it is on slick downhills because it can be too aggressive at times. Another time I’ll consciously turn it off is when I park the truck and know I’ll be starting it when it’s real cold in the AM. I’ve noticed if you leave it on and start the truck, it’ll engage high-idle a bit sooner than I’d prefer, personally. But I do love the “jet engine” sound once it engages on those real cold starts too! 😂
Is that really a good thing though? I would think overtime that they potentially could just go bad and if you need them in a true emergency situation, they may not be up to par.
The exhaust brake sounds great and a cleaner turbo is even greater I’m using mine always
One reason not to use the exhaust break. Saw a video on a guy that has a fleet of Rams that were having issues with the exhaust particulate filter plugging. One of his driver did not use the exhaust brake all the time and had fewer issues with the particulate filter. Just saying.
Now he is towing a lot so that may be the difference (doing hot shot).
I have a 2005 5.9 dually and I put over 200,000 mi. on it before I changed brakes. My truck is a Manuel and Has made a lot of trips. I have done a lot of up grades to everything on it since We bought a fifth wheel and now I will put an exhaust brake on it. It will save on brakes and it WILL save your life when towing but you better put some thought into your drive train cause nothing is just free. Lots of added wear on drive components and associated maintenance of it.
Funny. I always use the exhaust brake and never had an issue with the turbo gunking up until the wife started driving it. Took it to the dealership for CEL and they told me I needed a new $9,000 turbo.. I was like ummm no thank you. I purchase a bottle of Wynn’s diesel turbo cleaner (purple bottle). Poured it into the tank and drove about 20 miles, cleared the CEL light as of this writing.
Get rid of that EGR abb a catch can. PS use 1" heater hose in and out no kinks
I’m curious what turbo is 9,000😂😂 I’ve had many many turbos from big to small and never paid anywhere near that🤦🏼♂️
@5.9street_tractor14 The one the stealership was trying to tell me I needed. I ordered one from BD and had a local shop install it. Just over $3.5K, for everything. Way less than the stealership.
@@jacksondaniels8169 that explains it lol I ran a 68mm hx52 on my old 2nd gen also ran multiple hx35s , an s362 , an s364 and an s472 and none of them were more than 1200 new or used I always installed them myself it’s so easy I wouldn’t feel right paying someone but 3500 sounds much better given you paid someone to install it and bought new I assume but 9k is a slap in the face and a kick in the nuts I’d wanna SLAP that dealership salesman if that was me jesus😂😂😂
@@Tonka_6.7Also remember the 16's have the VGT turbo which is substantially more expensive than a 2nd or 3rd gen turbo. My truck is registered in TX but I'm currently residing in San Diego, so I gotta play the game because of the emissions Nazi's. Unfortunately, I don't have the area to do the work myself nor does my HOA allow working on vehicles in the driveway. I had a very reputable diesel shop in Ramona, CA do the work
We have two Rams. A 2500 gen 4 deleted and tuned, and a 22 3500 dually. When you run the exhaust break on both trucks unless the trucks are also in tow haul mode, the exhaust break barely kicks in and isn’t even noticeable.
You have both deleted? Did you do your ‘22 yourself or pay? Curious the cost… Thank you
I need delete kit info !!!
That is what I was thinking and am going to do, thanks
Thank you so very much
What did you do to turn on the exhaust break everytime your truck turns on?
It’s a code written in the tuning!
How do you make it always stay in automatic mode? Sucks thatbi have to turn it on everything
It’s written in my tuning
21 tradesman has a button
Do you really trust what a guy who drives around with a low tire has to say? I mean really how hard is it to fix that.?
Wheels don’t have TPMS sensors 🤷🏻♀️
Of corse it going to sound better you deleted it.
@@robertburgess6100 sounds good stock too 🤘🏼
Were you able to get a shop to do the delete? Or you "know" people?
Haha just a few friends who know what they’re doing!!
@@JohnWargo93 dang it lol good stuff
@@JohnWargo93 I have looked high and low on where or who can hook me up to do the same. Failed on every corner. Guess I'll just admire yours.......dang.
@@kuyaali956 haha yeah man I hear ya it’s “the devil” now days… I grew up with a good group of guys who’ve been doing their own rigs forever. Comes in handy
Will Ram still perform recalls (like the grid heater that just came out) and what is still covered under warranty?
My 6.4 hemi does not have exhaust brake, def, egr cooler, filter, regens, sensors, etc. I tow what you guys tow albeit at a higher rpm. Do the math before you reply
200K miles on my 14 with the exhaust brake on since day one. Original brakes too. Lots of towing in Idaho and coast to coast.
I drive a Ford F350 6.7 but I really appreciate your knowledge and advice. I’m always trying to learn more about my truck. Both yours and mine work about the same so thank you. Love the video.
Appreciate the support man, thank you!
Got a ‘18 6 speed. I use the full exhaust brake all the time and the service brakes are in mint condition. My friends make fun of me for using it all the time, but I really believe in the point you made about keeping the VGT clean and saving the service brakes.
The buttons aren't for trim levels, the auxiliary bank comes with the snow plow prep kit and is also possible to add separately. A Limited will have the little flippers if the truck isn't equipped with the auxiliary bank.
Right. I don't know where he got that from.
I run my exhaust brakes at all times. I have two Ram 3500 duallies and have had zero turbo issues and get fantastic brake life.
Please do a video about how to make the exhaust brake stay on all the time on start up. I can’t figure it out
I have a older truck but the only way to do it was deleting the truck and having it programmed to be always on
My 22 limited Longhorn stays on by it's self and it's bone stock for now 😅
Good stuff! Thanks for all the info. Really helpful to know that it hits harder when tow haul mode is on. 🤙🏼
i've always used Exhaust braking / engine braking on my 05 F250 and my 19 F250, makes sense to me and i like the fact that i dont really have to touch the brake pedal ever unless im coming to a complete stop... probably reason why i have yet to need a new set of brakes on both so far. always moving..
I have a 2018 F-250. I would like to use them all the time too but when I activate the exhaust brake button the shifting changes. It takes longer to shift between gears or just stays on a high gear instead of shifting to a lower gear. The only way to make it shift to a higher gear while using the exhaust brake is to speed up. Don’t really like that.
I run my 2018 Ram 2500 Cummins with the exhaust break on all the time. My mechanic told me it keeps the turbo cleaner and working properly.
Something I really like about the exhaust break as well:
Basically, when you hit the brakes, you're loading the front end as most the brake force is applied on the front. With an exhaust brake, it's applying the braking on the rear end. It just feels so much nicer to have the heavy rear end brake feel and not dive the front end. I know these trucks have a HD front end that is really stiff, but that rear brake feeling vs loading the front just feels so much nicer to me
And it stops faster in emergency brake situation once you become skilled at driving with it the performance of the suspension and braking in mountainous terrain takes the truck in to the next level of the trucks performance in control during a loaded pick up box drive and In winter with 4 HD studded winter snow tires aka : snowflake spec and. Using 4WD and the engine brake combined with throttle control driving technique severe ice/snow storm driving the vehicle can stop twice as fast and steering control is paramount . Like you said the rear brakes get to take a big load off the front end letting all 4 brakes to work at high efficiency and bring the truck to a stop more easily . My brakes/ rotors are lasting much longer due to the engine brake sharing the load and a lot of the time the foot pedal brake is not needed on highway driving.
@@ski6712 Totally. I really wish I could justify a new ram 2500/3500 as a cali commuter but my trusty lb7 will have to do. After taking a cummins on a road trip I knew there wasn't anything better :)
Sorry young man, but those wheels look hideous. No way that truck could ever go off-roading, you'd clip every hidden rock. Like your effort for trying to share info, but that's not what a truck is about in the real world?
I’m not off-roading a $70k truck.. no thanks. I leave that to the $5k beater rigs!! She tows fine tho 👌🏼 10-ply tires just like OEM.
Who takes a 7k lb truck off-roading ?
Is this bad for the engine? Does it build up extra pressure inside and possibly cause gasket leaks?
I just got a 3500 dually and I don't have any idea how to use. Thanks for the explanation.
And here’s a reason not to. It wears down your turbo actuator. Replaced my turbo at 110,000 because the actuator went out.
In the winter time if your truck is idling a lot don’t forget to put it in high idle or you screw up you turbo
I love that being deleted and tuned, I don’t have to turn the exhaust brake on every start up now
Same!!
Same here!
Great video. I was just reading about this third mode of the exhaust brake (auto exhaust brake) in the owner's manual this morning on my new MY23 Ram Rebel HD Cummins and as you described, it's actually good for the turbo. I'll be using the auto exhaust brake from now on.
That cold start is Sexy! I leave my exhaust break on most of the time . It’s a company vehicle and I take good care of it. In fact I am on the hunt for a 2023 or 24 Dually for personal use. Motorcycles, Jet skis, or the snow mobiles. You feel like a beast as you lift your foot off the throw. The sound is awesome.
Wonder what the cons are other than claiming it gunks the turbo up? I never use mine and dont have turbo issues. 270k miles. I dont like how agressive it can be, seems worse on the engine to have em downshift hard over 3k rpm. Also seems like it would gunk other stuff up like the emissions faster.
I've always said, braking is a result of poor planning. (within reason of course)
Yes 🙌🏼 I generally look far enough ahead and let the truck slow itself down if I see a stoplight or whatnot.
I think even scientists can’t deny that sounds good!
🤣🤣 true!
"Trust the science". LMAO
Except in inclement weather! The exhaust break can cause the rear end to loose traction.
Yup… 1 thing I did forget to mention. With ice, snow, etc.
That’s more true if your hauling a trailer
Be a man! Hahaha
For the first 50k miles on my 2019 3500, the EB worked great in both full and automatic (with and without tow/haul mode). Now I've noticed that it kicks on only about 90% of the time but not even close to how aggressive it was. Hauling my 5th wheel it used to slow me down all the way to a stop but now I might lose just a few mph. Dealership just said, oh we'll do a software update. No change. They say it does kick on which is true - but I've driven it for 50k miles hauling a 5th wheel, I'd know if it wasn't working the same anymore.
Is there any down shift when EB kicks in?
@@Jon-O. I have noticed that sometimes it does down shift but it does not always do that.
Actuator is getting weak
Get your “overhead” done. That means get your valves adjusted.
@@witkr904 that's a 150,000 miles service probably still within spec at 50,000
1 youre driving it
2 you have a trailer
3 because
4 i guess.... it saves your brakes
Reason 1 it sounds cool. That is all
I'd love to hear a cold start with the high idle and exhaust brake on since you have it breathing healthy.
Check last weeks video! Have a good cold start with high idle !
@@JohnWargo93 just watched that one. Sounds amazing. I have a 21 that I plan on deleting as soon as the warranty runs out. You use ez lynk or efi?
@@dusten.johnson EZ Lynk
@@JohnWargo93 thanks man can't wait to see more content on the truck. Ready to start building mine.
I wish we had the option of a true valve/injector operated Jake brake over an exhaust brake.
Pacbrake use to make them and Thunder Brake it just sucks that they never caught on
I didn’t know little trucks had exhaust brakes
30 yrs old , 15 vehicles.. Never changed a brake.. 🤔
You don't fucking say. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I have a 2022 Ram 5500 as a work truck hauling roll off bins, I run the auto exhaust brake all the time as well despite if I’m heavy or not. Only turning on tow/haul if I’m over 4500-5000lbs.
My grandpa was a trucker and said its not good for the engine he only turned it on his semi when he went down steep and sketchy roads he uses it on his Cummins as well tho but only towing his camper
Semis have engine brake which is different to the exhaust brake, rams basically just close the exhaust making the engine to not blow as hard as if was open to slow it down, and the engine brake turns off the injectors
Engine breaks are not exhaust brakes.
I've got a 2011, I've only got one setting, full on. I drive with it on pretty much all the time.
I was gonna watch this video until I saw the low profile wheels and tires on this diesel truck. Sorry not taking advice from anyone rolling around like that.....
@@ryanmcguire9335 🤡 grow up old man
Got a 2018 2500 Laramie with 64,000 miles 4 days ago. Watched this video, cruised around town in auto, and I swear the turbo feels more responsive. Leaving it on forever now.
Wait till you start throwing codes from all that back pressure pluging up everything in your intake Ram is the worst
@@jeffr4110 hmmmm 44k now, no issues 🤷🏻♀️
Not true about the push buttons . You only get the push buttons if you have the auxiliary switches . If you don’t have the aux switches you get the lever style switches in any trim level
Correct. I have a Laramie with the 12 inch screen and have the levers
This has been beat into the ground. The turbo vanes are moving with or without exhaust brake.
I tried using full exhaust brake on for a couple of months and I noticed my mpg went down to 14-15. 2019 2500 leveled on 35s. Without using it at all I’m back to 17-18. I’ll try auto mode to see what happens.
Yup. It does affect your mpg’s.
18mpg is 12l/100km of DIESEL? OH SHIT in europe anything that uses more than 7l is considered a lot
I have a bone stock 22 3500 quadcab long bed 4x4 Laramie. 20-21 mpg not towing, and 19-20 driving more aggressively if I'm late. I see all these sub 20 mpg claims online. Why are they so low?
My boss had a 2006 5 inch straight piped and he has 360k miles on the original turbo and the motor blew before the turbo did, his truck he pulled heavy with it all of the time, and he never had any problems, but these newer trucks I agree with you, that is the best bet
3rd reason is a shitty one. First 2 are good
Dude, I'm atruck driver since the 80's. I Always have my exhaust brake on, setting 3. The only reason to change the setting is for lighter loads. Never go to 1, 2 is as far I go with light loads, downhill.
How can I make my truck sound louder when using the exhaust brake?
@@jatc8 delete would be the only true option. A Cold Air Intake helps the rumble a bit but a delete does the trick!
2015 ram dually 408 cid Cummins 4x4 with G56 transmission. Full exhaust brake since day one, empty, loaded or pulling. Also ever since it reach 36,000 miles around November/December of 2015 ( build date 03/2015, bought 06012015) the exhaust brake comes on in full mode every time it cranks up.
The purpose if the exhaust brake is to supplement the braking system and save brake wear. I run full brake for maintaining forward speed without Illuminating brake lights
Exhaust brake on the steering column, like a pull on one of the stalks, would be superior... I don't get why it's such a weird setup in pickups
Hey John thanks so much for this information I am new with diesel I just got one ram 3500 is as fancy as yours but it does have the EB I didn’t know all this information. So Thank you thank you.
John, I'm a new RAM owner thank you for the information.
Thank you!
The tradesman’s have the push button as well if you have aux switches, they are the same as yours.
I gotcha… yeah we have a few 2021 Tradesman’s at work with just the levers but they do not have the additional auxiliary buttons. Good to know!
Yeah I have a Big Horn with levers. I think having aux outlets is what makes them have to put the push buttons.
I use the exhaust brakes ALWAYS and it didn’t protect the turbo actuator from failing at 72,000 miles. Cummins 6.7
What device do you use to keep the exhaust break on?
@@dogbonedoctors it’s written in the tune 🎶
And one good reason not to...because you've gotten rid of that OEM VGT garbage and upgraded your turbo. One of the best mods I've ever done on my 4th gen.
i just got my ram 1500 3 days ago and i noticed it likes to slow down faster than im use to when i let go of the gas....ill have to look and see if the exhaust break is on
I had the cp3 recall done and a computer update, now the exhaust brake feels none existent unless you shift down. Anyone else experience this???
IT is a necessary device for descents road
I have a 2016 Cummins--and deleting it THEN was difficult. How are there still programs available to perform a delete on even newer trucks??
PSA I want my truck deleted but im. not sure how to do so. I know there are guys out there that can help me I will drive to you no problem I just don't know what im doing and I don't want to tear anything up. I have a 5th gen ram 3500 dually.
Wish I could find somebody I trust who could tune and delete my 2014 Ram
New diesel owner here so thank you for the info. Will running the exhaust break on the automatic setting make the def fluid run empty at a faster rate?
Not that I’m aware of, no. The DEF fluid gets consumed under load of the engine, shouldn’t have anything to do with the exhaust brake. For example, when I would tow, it would consume DEF quicker than just driving around empty.
@JOHN WARGO I must have something going on then my def goes from full to empty in 10 days i guess I'll have to get it into the shop. I have a 2020 dodge ram 2500 maybe 10 days is normal lol thanks again for the info
@@BengalsGuy damn! After buying my truck brand new I put on 4K miles before I needed to fill up at all. I put 8k miles on my truck before deleting and only filled my tank 2x in my 8k miles.
99.9% of drivers and n mechanics cannot explain how an exhaust brake works.
How does it affect mpg ?
Not sure if you noticed but the Exhaust brake is a LOT more powerful when you put it on Full and you push the nice little Tow button beside it. At least I find the braking a lot more aggressive. I use the Tow/Full combo when I'm towing something heavy.
Yup, exhaust brake hits heavy in tow/haul
The higher rpm the better it slows down, just like in a manual for down shifting to a light,
@@JohnWargo93 I have my 2017 3500 at the dealership because the exhaust break is acting weird. They told me it was normal and to only use it when I’m hauling. When it’s in full exhaust break it only stays on till the truck down shifts and turns off. In tow haul it turns off and on, off and on…. I asked about the actuator and the potential damage to the turbo and they said they would call me back. That was almost 2 hours ago… 😑
@@elisag2055 yikes definitely sounds like some sort of issue!
I'm an engineer/operator firefighter. Rule #1 with exhaust brakes. DO NOT USE WHEN RAINING, IN SLEET OR SNOW. It will cause your back end to brake loose and can cause you to lose control.
The cruise control will also help when going down hill by automatically down shifting to keep the mph within 5 mph of what you have it set at.
On my 4th gen, the exhaust brake is inoperative when cruise is set...
@@BoostedVQUR if you EB isn’t slowing enough downhill use the cruise control to keep your MPH stable.
@@4truth69 The thing is... With the exhaust brake on (Full or auto) and cruise control set, the truck downshifts to control speed.- The exhaust brake does not even activate despite it being on. Turn cruise control off and the exhaust brake is enabled again.
@@BoostedVQUR so both will do the same thing. The wife’s 1500 Hemi we use CC for steep hills.
⚜️Thanks Got a new 2024 3500 Cummins. This is good help thanks
I have a 2018 cummins 125k been doing this since I bought it new but turbo just went out a few days ago I have a fleece cheetah suppose to be here next week tho 😊
Good upgrade!
That cold start is music to my ears.
Thanks for the info! Question for anyone with a 2011-2016 F250. My 2015 F250 doesn’t have an auto exhaust brake, only on or off. Is there any benefit to driving with it on full time? I wish I had an auto mode like the Ram.
Appreciate the support! I’m personally not a fan of driving with it on “full” all the time only because I enjoy coasting to stops and whatnot to save fuel. With it on “full” all the time it slows the truck down any time you let your foot off the throttle causing you to keep on throttle more than not burning more fuel.
Solid vid ! Leaving my exhaust break on all the time starting tomorrow.
I just naught a v6 ram classic but I want one of these 6.7 Cummins
Well we’ll we’ll… now I’ve got more questions after watching this than I had before watching it. This is what my 2014 f250 6.2 gasser dose every time I let off the gas or when going down a hill. Also down hill when it hits a certain speed/rpm the exhaust suddenly starts growling. Tow haul mode dosent seem to do a lot at times. The trucks used n I know it’s got a tune on it for sure but didn’t notice most of these things until I put some spintech mufflers on it. My 04 f250 5.4 gasser never did this and would coast for ever unlike my newer 14 f250. Any help???
I didn't think non-diesels had exhaust breaks. It uses the turbos.
Don’t now if you’ll remember me but I actually won the lasfit bulbs giveaway you had a few years ago. A bunch of stuff happened in life and I never got around to installing them and I found them in a drawer . Well I installed them about a week ago . Then on a whim I traded that truck for a 2024 2500 duramax . Googled “when to use the exhaust brake “ and it brought me back to your channel . Crazy how life works
Haha hey that’s awesome I appreciate the support once again!
does all that back pressure cause seals to go out or cause stuff to wear out ? I really don't wanna break down so I'm askin questions I teach electrician so call yall teach me f350 dually 6.7 powerstroke
So..... just curious, If i was towing a heavy haul and the trailer has electric brakes.... the use of the exhaust brake to slow down the vehicle seems kinda dangerous especially down hill, nothing assisting the truck on the trailer end. Ive experienced slips or free wheel spin over a bridge pulling a trailer the same can be said for slowing down
Probably depends on weather and road conditions. I’d be more cautious with wet roads, but anything dry I use engine break when towing 100%. Going up and down the Smokey Mountains I never have to touch my break pedal at all. I generally let the engine break slow me and my load down but I do see your point, it’s valid.
I can't watch this until you check the tire pressure!!! 🙂
🤣 aftermarket wheels don’t have sensors in them
Exhaust break the mean is just don’t apply the break ? Use the truck weight to decrease the speed . That’s call the exhaust break? Sorry I’m first time heard that.
No, the exhaust break is a button you press to turn on the “exhaust break”. All diesel trucks have them. It helps the truck slow down using back pressure from the engine/turbo. I’m big rigs/semi trucks it’s called a Jake break.
What would you say the difference is between fuel consumption when using exhaust brake vs not
Honestly never looked into it. At 42k miles now and it’s been in “auto” all those 42k miles except “full” for the 12k tow miles. Never drove it without.
U guys love bringing attention to yourselves tagging deleted and mentioning it the video 🤦♂️ Please stop making it harder on Everyone!
Chill out Karen, it’s the douche dongs who blow black smoke on Priuses, crowds, cops, etc. that’s ruining it for everyone. I generally made a reference since the tune kicks my EB on each time on startup. And to make reference as to why it sounds so much better and louder than stock otherwise I’d get 1001 questions asking why theirs doesn’t sound the same or kick on automatically. I’m not doing anything harmful enough or getting enough attention for the EPA to care 🤷🏻♀️
Use mine since day one. I have a 2022 long horn 2500. I have 16,000 miles already and agree with all of your points. Not towing, I’m getting 21mpg and have not done the delete.
Question, does the delete void your warranty?
Yes it does void the manufacturer warranty
I assume however that anything not related to engine or power train should still be honored… guess we’ll see if anything ever happens 🤷🏻♀️
@@JohnWargo93 care to share how you did the delete? Did you do it yourself or find someone willing to do it?
And also, did you check your mpg before and after, and what were the results?
@@HardKnocks101 had a shop do it all 100%.. from sourcing parts to the entire job. Gained about 2mpg total both highway and daily driving. Nothing crazy, but the power gain is nice 👍
Never
I really don't use it unless I'm about to slow down it eats you'r diesel like no other
Wow I’ve never used my EB!!! And I got 68000 miles on it. 😊
Full brake for towing, stop and go and bumper to bumper traffic...auto for everything else.
Agreed
I have a '22 RAM LIMITED LONGHORN, It has lever style switches not push buttons.
And I use my engine brake all the time!
Which setting is better to use with cruise control? I use cruise all the time and I speed up and slow down using the buttons on the steering wheel.
I do it as well. I honestly stay on “auto” 99% of my driving. Only time I’ll ever use “full” is when towing super super heavy
Just picked up a 2022 duramax should I use it all the time on it ?