What do you think about the ProJared situation? Are you shocked? ✅More info @kotaku.com/youtuber-projared-accused-of-sexually-soliciting-fans-1834650673
Didn't see any of it coming. I was a casual fan, subbed to him for reviews of mainstream games like MK. Everything about the situation sucks for the women he manipulated and cheated on. I'm not big on jumping straight to calling Jared the P word though like the article implies. I see Jared as more of an opportunist and egoist to that aspect of the situation. He used Tumblr extensively which had a huge issue with users, mainly teenagers not following common sense and posting objectionable content. Big reason why the huge purge was forced by Yahoo.
I thought his narcissism was an act at first and it may have been but looking back at it like you said he believed his own hype and got caught up in it, hopefully this can shed light on people using celebrity to mask who they are and give people who look up to them the example that persona is different from person
He really said that shit? That's why people watched him. He was Pat the nes punk that did funny nes reviews. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.
... And the last Pat The NES Punk video was 10 months ago. I dunno if we'll be looking at a channel name change down the line but clearly Pat the NES Punk is not actually the bread and butter anymore.
@Taylor Brookstone true, although I'd argue that much like Joe Rogan, he's a celebrity on the internet, rather than an internet celebrity. There aren't a lot if people that make it very far OFF the platform. I mean, didnt Laci Green host an actual show on MTV for like, a week before it was cancelled? Similar for Hannah Cranston I believe. I'd hardly call either one of them a celebrity. Cenk was actually a news anchor for a while. That's certainly better than most.
@@FackAttack not even close. Most people with 1M+ barely get 3k views on their vids anymore. TH-cam has such a plethora of old, worn out, unused accounts that sub numbers are literally worthless, and not used for anything related to marketing. There's a reason pewds only gets a few million views per vid, despite having a few dozen million subs. They're mostly not real people..
How dare they do this on Pat's birthday, while Pat's celebrating his birthday on his birthday. Hope Pat's birthday goes better next year on Pat's birthday.
I'll be completely honest, I was very naive about Jared. I would watch his content and thought he was a genuine, quirky guy, who seemed to really like his audience. I remember watching the video of when his house was flooded, and how he pleaded for no one to worry, and not send him money, but to send money to the people who suffered through those hurricanes and storms. I remember watching a super old video of him at a Q&A and him giving people retro games when they asked questions and it was just dorky and fun. Not saying I think he is still a good guy, I am just saying that for me, it's like finding out an old friend has been doing this, and when you start looking back and thinking on it, so many things they did or said now seem so much more sinister... Pat and Ian, I am super heartbroken you guys had rough interactions with him, and that this happened, you two actually knew him and I can only imagine how harder this news hit you. Happy belated birthday Pat, you guys are awesome, keep up the awesome work 👍
Dude, you're not naive... I felt the same way... I really liked watching his videos, and because of his public persona, which was nice and quirky, you wouldn't expect that. He just fooled us^^.
I feel you man. I never liked let's plays, but Jared's persona made me like him and watch him almost everyday. I felt like he was a guy i'd like to meet and befriend. Also, i followed him (and by extension, Holly) in their D&D show with Chris Perkins, Dice Camera Action and loved the group. But as you said, what happened now makes that feel vile, and with a different horrible meaning. Jared and Holly somehow had this wholesome, quirky relationship with their characters, while in real life they would be having sex and cheating on Heidi and possibly Ross... and it sickens me. And now the Show is on hiatus, without any word from the other members of the staff (that i hope they're okay) So.... yeah. I've been watching Critical role now. Always wanted to catch up with that show, but DCA had me busy, but since Jared is done... i guess i'll swap to the other show. I just Hope Matt Mercer is not another "persona" and the guy is actually the type of person he looks like.
@Aragorn7884 Indeed, I came here to hear their thoughts on the ProJared situation. I want to avoid any and all spoilers for Detective Pikachu... I wanna go into that film completely blind.
16:25 The way I would take that is it sounds to me like he was essentially saying "well done for taking all night trying to come up with a joke that I can just think of whenever it suits me with no effort at all" aka, You had to work hard and spend alot of time whereas I (projared) have so much natural talent that it just comes to me effortlessly
I see your angle, but in this instance I was up all night working on my DVD, and had almost no time to prepare the material beforehand for the meeting.
makes Jared sound even more like a dickhead. Also reminds me of that Family Guy S1 joke where Brian asks peter how long it took him to come up with the snausage joke
Sometimes marriages fail for variety of reasons, we're only human. But abusing and alienating your significant other, as well as allegedly possessing under aged pornography is just vile. I unsubscribed from ProJared as soon as I heard about it!
@@costafinkel Nah, he didn't post much and so I was going to unsubscribe from channel. I forgot to do so until I heard about these allegations started to pop up. Basically, What was going to be an unsubscription due to the lack of content, became an unsubscription due to disgusting allegations.
I unsubscribed from ReviewTechUSA because like most, his content got super annoying and was just an echo chamber repeating the same thing over and over. All he does is read the headlines. It's also annoying how he addresses the problem like he's talking directly to the person at fault or the company or whatever. Probably the next worst TH-camr doing the same thing is YongYea... Oh and I sadly got tired of Boogie2988 as well. His content became mostly shilling and whiny reactions to drama.
I find it confusing why so many people are focusing on the fact that he was cheating on his wife than...you know, sexually soliciting minors. This isn't directed at the podcast, I didn't haven't listened, but so many people talking about this focus on the cheating and don't mention the creepy shit.
That's the same thing I have been thinking. If we're being honest, we all know that most married people cheat. It's bad, but it's reality. The horrible thing is the solicitation and exploitation of minors. That is far and away worse than cheating on a spouse.
I believe victims of sexual assault - however, any opinion on most folks part would be based on allegations, and not facts. Check out the case of the wrestler named Enzo Amore - he was falsely accused; lost his job, lost his CAREER in an industry because of an allegation that proved to be false. I think it's best if this be between the authorities, the victims and the offender -- who ought to be ghosted -- until vindicated or convicted. Accepting that this likely happened -- just ghost the dude, his channel, etc. -- and pile on hate once his acts are proven.
Yeah, but let's be honest, guys. People are unsubscribing over the whole alleged allegations...not because he cheated on his wife. You would have to unsubscribe to almost everyone on TH-cam if you're not going to watch content because someone cheated on a spouse.
Because only famous, wealthy people cheat? No. Money and fame just mean their problems are made public. Not defending Jared, but if every average guy was loudly and publicly exposed when they did something wrong, we'd realize how commonplace this is.
@@Nazraq04 doesn't change you, just gives you the opportunity to reveal yourself. I bet a lot of the "righteous" population would also do some shitty things in different circumstances. It's still the kind of person they are.
@@Seegtease I don't want to get into a deep debate about the topic, but please think about the fact that our environment and opportunities determine our options. You're not looking at the bigger picture when you say stuff like that. What about the people that crashed in an airplane in the mountains that had to eat the dead passengers? Would you say that their true self was to be cannibals? Or would you say that their choices were guided by their conditions? How is it different when someone becomes rich and famous? It's not fair to make the claim that money reveals a person's true identity. It very well can change a person. Like they say, money is the root of all evil. And power corrupts. Your way of thinking doesn't allow for any examination. That's not a good way to learn.
19:49 Ian's face speaks for me about this whole segment. Jared never appealed to me, so I barely know him outside of his name. I missed all the drama and I can't say I feel bad about it.
I remember the time I subbed and gave you a chance because you were riding AVGN's coat tails. You have a huge ego for such a forgotten persona who "did a video with AVGN that one time"
@@plaguebringer420 Nah, people into the hobby knew him. It was mostly Pat, AVGN and TheIrateGamer way back, and they did similar content. AVGN's videos were so much more popular and had higher quality in comparison which made the other two channels seem even worse than they were which is why they never became as big. Game reviews of old retro games were synonomous with "AVGN", and everything else was laughed at by the mainstream audience which is the large majority.
I really respect you being able to admit you dont like him as a person but still saying allegedly when it comes to his legal affairs. Really shows journalistic integrity and its refreshing to hear other then just the meme explosions everyone else seems to be doing.
You have to say allegedly if you have no proof even if you don't like him. So far all of these are allegations and spreading them would be diffamation if untrue.
I've met you both multiple times now, chatted with you both, had shit signed by you both, pictures with you both, even played the NES punk challenge in Portland, and that's one of the reasons I love you guys. You are real. You are the same people in videos and in person, no frills no gimmicks. Just real dudes who love games. Word.
@@SmoothDonatello1138 it's a legitimate question some of us wanna know what happened to Frank more specifically will he ever be in a video again. Pat hasnt shared anything and that's why the curiosity is there. Lighten up.
Why is everyone talking about him cheating on his wife? That to me really doesn't matter that much. That's their personal business. Now getting nude pics from minors, that crosses a whole other level. That should be the focus of everyone's anger.
Actually surprised by the rationale of the comments here. It's like a safe haven away from the frantic dogpiling and low critical thought memes and every other comment section. I mean sure it's here but could be a lot worse
Man, I liked Projared. He had a lot of enthusiasm and love for games and carried on as a pretty good comedian. I'm so fucking disappointed in him. Never gonna support him again.
It's a good start for Pat in acknowledging how much he interrupts Ian. Every time it happens, Ian's face is pretty funny. Hope Ian's health is alright and he gets some rest.
As a person who couldn't care less about TH-cam "drama", this is one of the only times where it involves a youtuber I'm actually attached to, as he's always been in my top 10, if not top 5. (the only other time was probably with Tobuscus although I was never as much a fan of his as Jared's) So I do feel a little sad and shocked about the situation, but I have this much to say: as much as I've always enjoyed his videos I understand I never knew him. He seemed like a nice guy, but I never actually knew it. People are wrong in saying they feel betrayed by him or something like that, because he never betrayed the fans, he was always respectful and professional to us. Basically people are always wrong in judging a person based on his youtube videos, because that's his job! You can judge him on a professional level, that's fine, but not on a personal one, even if that's a good judgement. Now, if you find someone is really a bad person reacting by unsubscribing is perfectly fine because you don't want to support them any more. However it's also arguably ok to separate the person from the art, and wanting to keep on supporting him because of the quality of his content, and most importantly I'm going to wait to hear his version of the story.
I'm glad you guys talked about this (I know its mostly Pat's story but I mean the podcast as a single entity) 'cause no one seems to want to talk about it (wich is understandable if you were close to Jared through either working-relationship or friendship) and personally I'm someone who gets hung up about this sort of thing. As was mentioned in the podcast, I made the mistake of putting him up on a pedestal. I tend to do this to people that give me a good impression for a long time. When it all went down it really felt like a betrayal wich I found hard to deal with and hearing people voice their opinions on the matter really helps alot in me getting over the whole thing. Thanks Pat and Ian!
It's funny that I'm not really surprised by this turn of events either. Disappointed for sure, but not surprised. As much as I enjoyed watching ProJared over the years when I found his older videos talking about random games, I always had this feeling in the back of my mind that he definitely THOUGHT that he was much more important than he actually was. He's like the nerd who acts cool and tough to hide the fact that he's a nerd, but everyone around him knows that he is, in fact, just another nerd on the internet. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with being a nerd. I'm a nerd, and the AVGN is one of my favourite things to watch on TH-cam to this day, but ProJared definitely had a subtle superiority complex about him even in his videos and streams that I could sense behind that quirky attitude, and I was just willing to ignore it because I enjoyed the content, until now obviously. The only satisfaction I get out of things like this is when people who think they're better than everyone else get a hard dose of reality and realize that they aren't, and I hope that at the LEAST he's forced to go back to living in obscurity from this, working a boring 9 to 5 like the rest of us, so he can remember how the real world works and get off his high horse.
This is weird. I've been a fan of you and Jared (well, I guess formerly now) for years and had no idea there was any crossover between y'all. Shows how much I know. Anyway, so sorry this happened, and on your birthday of all days. Wishing you the best.
'Cyber angels' protected you, Pat. lol But, seriously, imo, over half of PBG's Minecraft HC series being "private" is the greatest loss-- all those guest appearances and memorable moments...gone.
you guys might have less views but you keep it real to your true personalities. Those of us still here appreciate that. Keep on keeping on the core fans will stay and your base will grow.
I feel bad for everyone in the jared situation, besides jared and holly. I think the normal boots crew are gonna need recovery for this. PBG rushed to his friends aid but i think even the NB guys were manipulated and abused here too. This whole thing blew my mind and it sucks.
Not gonna lie, I was surprised. I followed his channel for a while, all I saw him as was a quirky guy who did decent reviews of Final Fantasy and Monster Hunter games. Cheating on your wife is one (horrible) thing he might eventually get over, but if it turns out that he was trading nudes with underage fans...then he deserves ever bad thing that's coming his way and a jail sentence. Just the fact that he was having that kind of interaction/relationship with fans even if they weren't underage is weird and creepy to me though, basically treating them like groupies.
I have been feeling so torn learning about these issues. I had become a Projared follower; I really liked his Let's Plays, especially in an age where everyone seems to livestream games instead. I think maybe I can still enjoy the videos, looking at him as an actor of sorts playing a role. It was very helpful to get your grounded opinion Pat and story about your past interactions with him. Happy belated birthday!
@@i.m.evilhomer5084 no one's accused Dan Schneider of any sexual misconduct. people assume he's a pedophile or a foot fetishist, but no actual accusations have been levied against him.
@Darius Jefferson no he thinks fans that angry that in addition to Diablo 4 a Diablo mobile game is being made are being bitches. And I agree with that. Diablo 4 is still being made. Sending death threats is ridicoulus
I'm really glad that you touch on what youtube can do to people. I've been a lurker since pre screw attack when we were all just nerds making videos for each other. I have a feeling you're talking about "James" who is ashamed of what he used to be now that he is a "God." I think it's very obvious that you care about your content and your fans. Your fans love you as much as you love them and we love your legitimacy and transparency. You have always been my favorite "nes reviewer" - and its nice to see that you didn't fade away like the hundreds of other "nes" youtubers. It's exciting to see you always have new ideas and never give up on your fans. Thanks pat. Please don't get off youtube, we love and need you!
I live in Los Angeles and a year and a half ago, I randomly ran into ProJared, Holly, and Ross at a bar one night. I told Ross I was a big fan of his animation, I could tell he's kind of a shy dude but he was completely nice, shook my hand, and said thanks. I then told Jared I enjoyed his videos and dude couldn't even look at me and gave a half hearted thanks. I could totally tell he's a complete douche in real life.
Pat, I understand that you don't want to be labeled as one thing and known for only one thing like just "Pat the NES Punk" but please don't totally abandon it either. There are still some of us who would love to see you do an episode from time to time!
I do agree that more is likely to come out in the coming months, very rarely do things like this end up being a one off issue, this behavior is probably something that he has been doing for years. It makes me question his firing from screwattack, in the very least, which has always been a very mysterious, poorly explained thing.
I'm not mad at you for jumping on the bandwagon if you disliked the guy in the first place. That's human nature... but, maybe you should do a follow-up on all of this.
24:00 This did not age well because the Jirard charity scandal made the ‘Sea Of Stars’ game remove The Completionist’s Cameo, His Own Game Of The Year.
I was one of those people at your SGC 2010 panel. I recall asking you about Action 52 and how long it took you playthough all the games since your video recently came out at that time. It really sucks to see what happened to ProJared. I really liked his content and contributions to ScrewAttack.
@@__1201 sounds to me like hes only sharing a past experience with Jared. Not kicking anyone. Others are already doing that and honestly so the fuck what? Jared is obviously a douchebag.
Honestly, Pat, I think this reflects poorly on you. Not only did you simply regurgitate what everyone else had said, but you went out of your way to provide further allegations of Jared's bad behavior with nothing but anecdotal examples. Hearsay, essentially. I hope you take the time to make a follow-up now that Jared has provided his own rebuttal against the claims against him. At the very least, this whole thing should be a reminder that jumping to conclusions before the other party has given a proper rebuttal, and ESPECIALLY before the situation has resolved itself, that you should either not get involved in or be fair and get BOTH sides of the story before reporting.
He either won't do a follow up, or he'll do the backpedal saying he took too long to make the video, or he'll shame him for asking people to watch his videos, or he'll shame him for participating in something risque, or he'll say none of what he says matters to him. Based on the type of people these 2 are, they are part of the group of children who believe that they can never be wrong, that no matter what evidence is provided the originally labeled victims are still the victims, and that a white male can't be a victim of abuse, manipulation, and harassment. I mean, the dude has a big nose and is white...of course he's a cheating, abusive, child predator...right? Honestly, both of their opinions which they champion as truths have been nothing but attempts to be apart of this outlandish "moral authority" on the internet and it's just horrible.
@@Dilaudid281 I'm not going to assume their response, because to do so would be presumptuous and ignorant. Just like Jared's rebuttal, I'l wait and see before drawong a conclusion.
i guess you didn't watch the video. The video is only about Pat's first hand experience with Jared. He said the soliciting child pics are aleged and are not fact
I think it’s more of a “I use to know the guy. I chose not to speak publicly about this as I have my own biases feeding towards him as I knew him personally”. Maybe reach out to the guy you knock knew to say “hey I plan to mention you in a podcast over the current drama. Do you have anything you’d like to day to help provide your perspective?”
MarzGurl's account of her relationship seemed pretty close to what Pat experienced. She said on Twitter they were pretty close friends but as he got more popular he would communicate with her less and less until he finally just stopped. I imagine others have the same story. Personally I always liked some of his stuff but he came across a little douchey. I'm not really surprised at all he turned out to be a major douche.
That's why I like Ian. His total lack of fucks to give about what people think is genuine, and endearing in a prickly sort of way. Zero "manipulation", zero fucks given. Keep doin' you, boys.
Never watched this guy. I probably saw him once or twice on The Video Game Years, and that's it. Still, it's sad that the TH-cam Community is diminishing like this. Just glad we still have you guys, James and a few others.
What do you think about the ProJared situation? Are you shocked?
✅More info @kotaku.com/youtuber-projared-accused-of-sexually-soliciting-fans-1834650673
I don’t like ProJared anymore and happy birthday
Didn't see any of it coming. I was a casual fan, subbed to him for reviews of mainstream games like MK.
Everything about the situation sucks for the women he manipulated and cheated on.
I'm not big on jumping straight to calling Jared the P word though like the article implies. I see Jared as more of an opportunist and egoist to that aspect of the situation.
He used Tumblr extensively which had a huge issue with users, mainly teenagers not following common sense and posting objectionable content. Big reason why the huge purge was forced by Yahoo.
I used to watch his videos, but when I quickly discovered this, I quickly unsubscribed.
I always liked ProJared's videos.
I don't like what he's done.
It's disheartening.
He seemed so inoffensive.
Goddamn.
I thought his narcissism was an act at first and it may have been but looking back at it like you said he believed his own hype and got caught up in it, hopefully this can shed light on people using celebrity to mask who they are and give people who look up to them the example that persona is different from person
"I don't want to be identified as Pat the NES Punk."
Channel name: Pat the NES Punk
You mean Pat The "Better Than You" Nes Punk?
@@svmei I yearn for his manboobs and greasy unwashed hair and body. He is the basement manbaby we need, but not the one we deserve!
/s
He really said that shit? That's why people watched him. He was Pat the nes punk that did funny nes reviews. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.
... And the last Pat The NES Punk video was 10 months ago. I dunno if we'll be looking at a channel name change down the line but clearly Pat the NES Punk is not actually the bread and butter anymore.
Pat Kasperian is in the house
Oh. Apologies for the render error with the Tetris segment opening afterward. Consider it a tease!
😳 oh my, a teeeeeeeeeeeeease, it’s kinda like seeeeeeeeeeeeeealed 😁
Haha I was just thinking...”that’s odd that they included that”
Now I'm hyped!!
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Caitlin Dent you know what Is popular with basement dwelling incels, Magic the Gathering
I tried to watch the video but pat and ian were so much better than me i found myself unworthy.
Jim Brony 😂😂😂
It always cracks me up when internet celebrities think they're actual celebrities.
Seriously. There's like three or four max who are actually celebs. Pewds (obviously), Rhett and Link (they're just one, IMO) and Cenk Uygar (sadly).
@Taylor Brookstone true, although I'd argue that much like Joe Rogan, he's a celebrity on the internet, rather than an internet celebrity.
There aren't a lot if people that make it very far OFF the platform.
I mean, didnt Laci Green host an actual show on MTV for like, a week before it was cancelled?
Similar for Hannah Cranston I believe. I'd hardly call either one of them a celebrity. Cenk was actually a news anchor for a while. That's certainly better than most.
There’s plenty of “internet” celebrities, but 1 million subscribers doesn’t really qualify anymore
@@FackAttack not even close. Most people with 1M+ barely get 3k views on their vids anymore.
TH-cam has such a plethora of old, worn out, unused accounts that sub numbers are literally worthless, and not used for anything related to marketing.
There's a reason pewds only gets a few million views per vid, despite having a few dozen million subs. They're mostly not real people..
@@iami3rian394 Pewds is infamous, not famous like someone who actually makes a difference.
How dare they do this on Pat's birthday, while Pat's celebrating his birthday on his birthday. Hope Pat's birthday goes better next year on Pat's birthday.
Lol.
@monstroziod i was thinking the same thing! Haha
Why did ProJared go to the cave in Stardew Valley?
So he can meet up with some miners.
Bet you feel better about yourself when you pound on a dead man until he gets up and starts punching back
Plot twist: Kevin Nash was the one who texted Pat
And he tore his quad in mid text. Sad.
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"thought he was dead lol"
@@Godlike_Virus (cue botchamania intro)
"You got a fuckin 6 foot guy like Jared that gets pussy, and his wife goes on reddit and puts him in a fuckin lime green dunce cap🤦"
- Kevin Nash
I'll be completely honest,
I was very naive about Jared.
I would watch his content and thought he was a genuine, quirky guy, who seemed to really like his audience. I remember watching the video of when his house was flooded, and how he pleaded for no one to worry, and not send him money, but to send money to the people who suffered through those hurricanes and storms.
I remember watching a super old video of him at a Q&A and him giving people retro games when they asked questions and it was just dorky and fun.
Not saying I think he is still a good guy, I am just saying that for me, it's like finding out an old friend has been doing this, and when you start looking back and thinking on it, so many things they did or said now seem so much more sinister...
Pat and Ian, I am super heartbroken you guys had rough interactions with him, and that this happened, you two actually knew him and I can only imagine how harder this news hit you. Happy belated birthday Pat, you guys are awesome, keep up the awesome work 👍
Dude, you're not naive... I felt the same way... I really liked watching his videos, and because of his public persona, which was nice and quirky, you wouldn't expect that. He just fooled us^^.
I feel you man. I never liked let's plays, but Jared's persona made me like him and watch him almost everyday. I felt like he was a guy i'd like to meet and befriend. Also, i followed him (and by extension, Holly) in their D&D show with Chris Perkins, Dice Camera Action and loved the group.
But as you said, what happened now makes that feel vile, and with a different horrible meaning. Jared and Holly somehow had this wholesome, quirky relationship with their characters, while in real life they would be having sex and cheating on Heidi and possibly Ross... and it sickens me.
And now the Show is on hiatus, without any word from the other members of the staff (that i hope they're okay)
So.... yeah.
I've been watching Critical role now. Always wanted to catch up with that show, but DCA had me busy, but since Jared is done... i guess i'll swap to the other show. I just Hope Matt Mercer is not another "persona" and the guy is actually the type of person he looks like.
Philip Dumas couldn’t have said it better myself
Well said. I feel the same way.
I know just how you feel, man. :(
Good job with the time stamps. Good addition! Keep it going from now on please.
Are Pat and Ian manipulating us, too? 😱
@Aragorn7884
Indeed, I came here to hear their thoughts on the ProJared situation. I want to avoid any and all spoilers for Detective Pikachu... I wanna go into that film completely blind.
It was too late for me. The first time I watched this I was going nuts for the first 7 minutes. 😅
16:25 The way I would take that is it sounds to me like he was essentially saying "well done for taking all night trying to come up with a joke that I can just think of whenever it suits me with no effort at all" aka, You had to work hard and spend alot of time whereas I (projared) have so much natural talent that it just comes to me effortlessly
I see your angle, but in this instance I was up all night working on my DVD, and had almost no time to prepare the material beforehand for the meeting.
makes Jared sound even more like a dickhead. Also reminds me of that Family Guy S1 joke where Brian asks peter how long it took him to come up with the snausage joke
Sounds that way for sure
Gay.
When Jared used one of those cheat codes, I wasn't expecting him to use it in real life!
Ha. Very good.
Yes!
I _cheated_
Like, literally?
haha good one :D
It's Pre register Jared
Sometimes marriages fail for variety of reasons, we're only human. But abusing and alienating your significant other, as well as allegedly possessing under aged pornography is just vile. I unsubscribed from ProJared as soon as I heard about it!
Anyone with a conscience did.
But what if it’s not true ?
@@costafinkel I was going unsubscribe from him anyway, but the guy still abused and alienated his wife. I'm not taking any chances with him.
Josh I so this is more about you than him. You don’t wanna take any risks.
@@costafinkel Nah, he didn't post much and so I was going to unsubscribe from channel. I forgot to do so until I heard about these allegations started to pop up.
Basically, What was going to be an unsubscription due to the lack of content, became an unsubscription due to disgusting allegations.
"The only way they get any views is, to, you know... you gotta talk about the story and just repeat it."
Shots fired at ReviewTechUsa
Funny how his video against Pat just started to appear in the suggestions (and with a new thumbnail showing a serious Pat).
I unsubbed from him for a reason.
I know man. It’s so obvious. Is he still doing that? I stopped watching a while back
I unsubscribed from ReviewTechUSA because like most, his content got super annoying and was just an echo chamber repeating the same thing over and over. All he does is read the headlines. It's also annoying how he addresses the problem like he's talking directly to the person at fault or the company or whatever.
Probably the next worst TH-camr doing the same thing is YongYea...
Oh and I sadly got tired of Boogie2988 as well. His content became mostly shilling and whiny reactions to drama.
Im actually a fan.. i like his genuine nature. He may be slow to get things out, but at least hes real.
I find it confusing why so many people are focusing on the fact that he was cheating on his wife than...you know, sexually soliciting minors. This isn't directed at the podcast, I didn't haven't listened, but so many people talking about this focus on the cheating and don't mention the creepy shit.
That's the same thing I have been thinking. If we're being honest, we all know that most married people cheat. It's bad, but it's reality. The horrible thing is the solicitation and exploitation of minors. That is far and away worse than cheating on a spouse.
I believe victims of sexual assault - however, any opinion on most folks part would be based on allegations, and not facts.
Check out the case of the wrestler named Enzo Amore - he was falsely accused; lost his job, lost his CAREER in an industry because of an allegation that proved to be false.
I think it's best if this be between the authorities, the victims and the offender -- who ought to be ghosted -- until vindicated or convicted. Accepting that this likely happened -- just ghost the dude, his channel, etc. -- and pile on hate once his acts are proven.
Literally every article and video I've seen have mentioned that fact.
You clearly haven’t seen many videos most videos speak of his sexting pictures with young girls at least I seen many
Yeah, but let's be honest, guys. People are unsubscribing over the whole alleged allegations...not because he cheated on his wife. You would have to unsubscribe to almost everyone on TH-cam if you're not going to watch content because someone cheated on a spouse.
23:15 Ian is spot on. It's not cynical. It's how the world works nowadays. The Era of digital narcissism...
Showmanship is one thing, but one must be careful of feigned sincerity -- people who behave like that are psychopaths.
Money and Fame doesn't change people, it just brings out the worst of them.
@@stayskeptic3923 propagandhi is so underrated. learned about them from protest the hero
Because only famous, wealthy people cheat?
No. Money and fame just mean their problems are made public. Not defending Jared, but if every average guy was loudly and publicly exposed when they did something wrong, we'd realize how commonplace this is.
Money and fame do change people, because money and fame give people more options and opportunities than they'd otherwise have.
@@Nazraq04 doesn't change you, just gives you the opportunity to reveal yourself.
I bet a lot of the "righteous" population would also do some shitty things in different circumstances. It's still the kind of person they are.
@@Seegtease I don't want to get into a deep debate about the topic, but please think about the fact that our environment and opportunities determine our options. You're not looking at the bigger picture when you say stuff like that.
What about the people that crashed in an airplane in the mountains that had to eat the dead passengers? Would you say that their true self was to be cannibals? Or would you say that their choices were guided by their conditions?
How is it different when someone becomes rich and famous?
It's not fair to make the claim that money reveals a person's true identity. It very well can change a person. Like they say, money is the root of all evil. And power corrupts.
Your way of thinking doesn't allow for any examination. That's not a good way to learn.
Pat's talking like Jared just died and is reviewing his life.
19:49 Ian's face speaks for me about this whole segment. Jared never appealed to me, so I barely know him outside of his name. I missed all the drama and I can't say I feel bad about it.
I found ProJared on thepunkeffect.com many, many years ago. What a disappointment that he ended up this way.
Ah the olden days of my site when Billy/Jay and MatPat would post.
@@PatTheNESpunk Your site was my TH-cam before I used TH-cam.
@@MrNicholas7 He had a site?
@Slick ???????? wtf lol why
I remember the time I subbed and gave you a chance because you were riding AVGN's coat tails. You have a huge ego for such a forgotten persona who "did a video with AVGN that one time"
The only reason anyone's ever heard of him. Must suck living in someone's shadow.
Truth
He already had a small, loyal fan base before getting the "rub" from James Rolfe. The collaboration did exponentially raise awareness of him though
@@plaguebringer420 Nah, people into the hobby knew him. It was mostly Pat, AVGN and TheIrateGamer way back, and they did similar content. AVGN's videos were so much more popular and had higher quality in comparison which made the other two channels seem even worse than they were which is why they never became as big. Game reviews of old retro games were synonomous with "AVGN", and everything else was laughed at by the mainstream audience which is the large majority.
@Multi Grain Cirnos I cannot imagine the gall of someone trying to question the work ethic of fucking James Rolfe.
I really respect you being able to admit you dont like him as a person but still saying allegedly when it comes to his legal affairs. Really shows journalistic integrity and its refreshing to hear other then just the meme explosions everyone else seems to be doing.
The memes are still hilarious though 🤣
You have to say allegedly if you have no proof even if you don't like him. So far all of these are allegations and spreading them would be diffamation if untrue.
I've met you both multiple times now, chatted with you both, had shit signed by you both, pictures with you both, even played the NES punk challenge in Portland, and that's one of the reasons I love you guys. You are real. You are the same people in videos and in person, no frills no gimmicks. Just real dudes who love games. Word.
@SCP 83 and you sound like you're a lot of fun at parties.
SCP 83 you sound like a jag off.
@SCP 83 you probably are a 12 year old girl. Fuckin weirdo.
@SCP 83 Jared?
@SCP 83 the level of assumption needed to even _start_ that sentence tells me everything I need to know about you.
What ever happened to Frank?
umm, hes never been on this podcast. Also, TH-cam isn't his job.
@@Acrophobia1981 Except if you actually paid attention to Frank, he says multiple times that hes a gardener.
Frank is a asset to the Oregon Trail weed crops right now.
@@SmoothDonatello1138 it's a legitimate question some of us wanna know what happened to Frank more specifically will he ever be in a video again. Pat hasnt shared anything and that's why the curiosity is there. Lighten up.
@@spartanracer I miss Ask Frank and the Frank Crate
Why is everyone talking about him cheating on his wife? That to me really doesn't matter that much. That's their personal business. Now getting nude pics from minors, that crosses a whole other level. That should be the focus of everyone's anger.
100%
th-cam.com/video/BBywRBbDUjA/w-d-xo.html
Was that on your birthday? Not sure if I catched that 👀
Frederic Sauve Hahahahahaha
Seriously! He really loved pointing that out.
Actually surprised by the rationale of the comments here. It's like a safe haven away from the frantic dogpiling and low critical thought memes and every other comment section. I mean sure it's here but could be a lot worse
There's the good comment section, and the bad comment sections. I've seen both sides.
Except for the guy above me, he's just being a stupid bellend.
@@Turner_D_Century are you talking to me or Pat?
Ry Young at least we cleared that up
Jacob Campbell I wasn’t serious. I don’t know you or (really) care what you look like.
Man, I liked Projared. He had a lot of enthusiasm and love for games and carried on as a pretty good comedian.
I'm so fucking disappointed in him. Never gonna support him again.
Well the truth is out so hope you support him again!
100k views and most of it is about projared, and no follow up? But sure, let's talk about the Intellivision Amico for weeks on end.
Pat: This channel need more karma.. *shitting on others*
Karma: am i a joke to you?
I cant believe the man who constantly asked for nudes on tumblr cheated on his wife
I'm so confused about the focus on cheating. The nudes is so much worse if it's true
Ian was absolutely stoned out of his mind during this debate....not tired but absolutely BATTERED! Good work fella!
Lol
Your next video can be "The Fall of Pat the NES Punk". Talk about how he became irrelevant and no one likes him or his husband.
Ian looks thrilled.
Getting up that early in the morning and having to talk about Projared's sex life at the beginning of the podcast, I wouldn't be too thrilled either.
Hahaha, nailed it.
😂😂😂😂😂
You know ProJared is in trouble when even your mom knows about his situation. Great podcast.
I'm not sure about this but was it your birthday recently?
Bloodsport is awesome Pat
This is a great demonstration of the differences between cocaine and marijuana.
When DSP makes fun of you and has the moral high ground, you know it's over for you on the internet.
It's a good start for Pat in acknowledging how much he interrupts Ian. Every time it happens, Ian's face is pretty funny. Hope Ian's health is alright and he gets some rest.
These guys are both sick....just sick..
He was a dork his whole life, that is the problem, so once he got a tad bit noticed he abused it.
I love how Ian is trying so hard not to laugh at this too😂
I like how you remember everything you were doing at the time ProJared's scandal happened, like it was a tragedy
Had no idea who Projared was except that he had done a couple episodes of the Game Chasers. He creeped me out even back then.
At this point people will have to decide wether they are Pro Jared or Anti Jared
Bummer about projared but sometimes the most outspoken people are trying to distract you from their own demons and flaws
As a person who couldn't care less about TH-cam "drama", this is one of the only times where it involves a youtuber I'm actually attached to, as he's always been in my top 10, if not top 5. (the only other time was probably with Tobuscus although I was never as much a fan of his as Jared's)
So I do feel a little sad and shocked about the situation, but I have this much to say: as much as I've always enjoyed his videos I understand I never knew him. He seemed like a nice guy, but I never actually knew it. People are wrong in saying they feel betrayed by him or something like that, because he never betrayed the fans, he was always respectful and professional to us. Basically people are always wrong in judging a person based on his youtube videos, because that's his job! You can judge him on a professional level, that's fine, but not on a personal one, even if that's a good judgement.
Now, if you find someone is really a bad person reacting by unsubscribing is perfectly fine because you don't want to support them any more. However it's also arguably ok to separate the person from the art, and wanting to keep on supporting him because of the quality of his content, and most importantly I'm going to wait to hear his version of the story.
The 80’s called. They want their podcast back.
Ian doesn't want any part of this
I think this one will really hit home. Eye opening, not that stuff doesn't happen like this, this is a big one.
To the ducktales theme:
Pat and Ian back again,
C - U - Podcast!
Gaming news and pointless rants!
Its a podcast!
we need verse 2 now
Ian's cancelled for having twiddly t-rex arms.
I'm glad you guys talked about this (I know its mostly Pat's story but I mean the podcast as a single entity) 'cause no one seems to want to talk about it (wich is understandable if you were close to Jared through either working-relationship or friendship) and personally I'm someone who gets hung up about this sort of thing. As was mentioned in the podcast, I made the mistake of putting him up on a pedestal. I tend to do this to people that give me a good impression for a long time.
When it all went down it really felt like a betrayal wich I found hard to deal with and hearing people voice their opinions on the matter really helps alot in me getting over the whole thing.
Thanks Pat and Ian!
Q: What do you call Pat when he’s carrying weed?
A: Pat con Tree
more like CHRON tree
AMIRIGHT!?
Patrick is too established to be a weed carrier for Jayo Felony.
It's funny that I'm not really surprised by this turn of events either. Disappointed for sure, but not surprised. As much as I enjoyed watching ProJared over the years when I found his older videos talking about random games, I always had this feeling in the back of my mind that he definitely THOUGHT that he was much more important than he actually was. He's like the nerd who acts cool and tough to hide the fact that he's a nerd, but everyone around him knows that he is, in fact, just another nerd on the internet. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with being a nerd. I'm a nerd, and the AVGN is one of my favourite things to watch on TH-cam to this day, but ProJared definitely had a subtle superiority complex about him even in his videos and streams that I could sense behind that quirky attitude, and I was just willing to ignore it because I enjoyed the content, until now obviously. The only satisfaction I get out of things like this is when people who think they're better than everyone else get a hard dose of reality and realize that they aren't, and I hope that at the LEAST he's forced to go back to living in obscurity from this, working a boring 9 to 5 like the rest of us, so he can remember how the real world works and get off his high horse.
Take a drink every time Pat says, "my birthday".
This is weird. I've been a fan of you and Jared (well, I guess formerly now) for years and had no idea there was any crossover between y'all. Shows how much I know. Anyway, so sorry this happened, and on your birthday of all days. Wishing you the best.
'Cyber angels' protected you, Pat. lol
But, seriously, imo, over half of PBG's Minecraft HC series being "private" is the greatest loss-- all those guest appearances and memorable moments...gone.
you guys might have less views but you keep it real to your true personalities. Those of us still here appreciate that. Keep on keeping on the core fans will stay and your base will grow.
I feel bad for everyone in the jared situation, besides jared and holly. I think the normal boots crew are gonna need recovery for this. PBG rushed to his friends aid but i think even the NB guys were manipulated and abused here too. This whole thing blew my mind and it sucks.
I think i missed something, did this happen on pats birthday?
Not gonna lie, I was surprised. I followed his channel for a while, all I saw him as was a quirky guy who did decent reviews of Final Fantasy and Monster Hunter games. Cheating on your wife is one (horrible) thing he might eventually get over, but if it turns out that he was trading nudes with underage fans...then he deserves ever bad thing that's coming his way and a jail sentence. Just the fact that he was having that kind of interaction/relationship with fans even if they weren't underage is weird and creepy to me though, basically treating them like groupies.
Hey, did the ProJared stuff happen on your birthday? Not sure you mentioned it enough
Ooohhh, I didn't know Papa Contri liked to spill the tea and drag the trash 💅
pop2uno we need it. It’s juicy information.
Cant tell if your being a prick or jokingly. Its the internet so you are obviously a prick because context and intent do not exist online. 👏
I have been feeling so torn learning about these issues. I had become a Projared follower; I really liked his Let's Plays, especially in an age where everyone seems to livestream games instead. I think maybe I can still enjoy the videos, looking at him as an actor of sorts playing a role. It was very helpful to get your grounded opinion Pat and story about your past interactions with him. Happy belated birthday!
In retrospect, Nickelodeon should've gotten you Pat for that cameo role
Matthew Ford cameo? Did he get a ad or something?
@@smgofdvld He was on Game Shakers.
Nickelodeon has it own share of problematic creators, take a look at the disturbing things John K & Dan Schneider have been accused of.
@@i.m.evilhomer5084 no one's accused Dan Schneider of any sexual misconduct. people assume he's a pedophile or a foot fetishist, but no actual accusations have been levied against him.
Just stopping by on my rounds letting people know it's time to make an apology video
@Darius Jefferson no he thinks fans that angry that in addition to Diablo 4 a Diablo mobile game is being made are being bitches. And I agree with that. Diablo 4 is still being made. Sending death threats is ridicoulus
apology video for what?
In other news: Ians not a morning person
I was SOOOOO fucking ready for this specific topic from you guys.
AND HAPPY LATE BIRTHDAY!
INB4 The Fall of Pat the nes punk?
"Tetris 99 is the free-to-play batlle..."
Battle what, Ian? BATTLE WHAT!?
Stunned with what happened to Heidi and the victims that he abused. Disgusted.
I'm really glad that you touch on what youtube can do to people. I've been a lurker since pre screw attack when we were all just nerds making videos for each other. I have a feeling you're talking about "James" who is ashamed of what he used to be now that he is a "God."
I think it's very obvious that you care about your content and your fans. Your fans love you as much as you love them and we love your legitimacy and transparency. You have always been my favorite "nes reviewer" - and its nice to see that you didn't fade away like the hundreds of other "nes" youtubers. It's exciting to see you always have new ideas and never give up on your fans.
Thanks pat. Please don't get off youtube, we love and need you!
I live in Los Angeles and a year and a half ago, I randomly ran into ProJared, Holly, and Ross at a bar one night. I told Ross I was a big fan of his animation, I could tell he's kind of a shy dude but he was completely nice, shook my hand, and said thanks. I then told Jared I enjoyed his videos and dude couldn't even look at me and gave a half hearted thanks. I could totally tell he's a complete douche in real life.
You base your opinion on one interaction? That's kinda harsh dude.
@@onomatopoeia7505 Yeah it's possible he could've been having a bad day.
But he just oozed douchebag.
Pat, I understand that you don't want to be labeled as one thing and known for only one thing like just "Pat the NES Punk" but please don't totally abandon it either. There are still some of us who would love to see you do an episode from time to time!
ProJared? More like HoJared.
More like ProStitute
Totally agree with Ian! Someone finally said it. TH-cam famous huh?... Omfg, get over yourself.
If Austin Jones went to prison, so should Jared.
Just wanted to say I love the intro music. It’s really tastefully done and hits the spot.
Happy belated birthday, Pat. I don't have Facebook anymore to remind me of birthdays, so I missed it.
Did the projared incident happen on Pat's Birthday?
Pat was so genuine and passionate in this podcast
LOVED THE GOSSIP.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I do agree that more is likely to come out in the coming months, very rarely do things like this end up being a one off issue, this behavior is probably something that he has been doing for years. It makes me question his firing from screwattack, in the very least, which has always been a very mysterious, poorly explained thing.
i didn't catch it.... was it your birthday pat???????
I'm not mad at you for jumping on the bandwagon if you disliked the guy in the first place. That's human nature... but, maybe you should do a follow-up on all of this.
24:00 This did not age well because the Jirard charity scandal made the ‘Sea Of Stars’ game remove The Completionist’s Cameo, His Own Game Of The Year.
I was one of those people at your SGC 2010 panel. I recall asking you about Action 52 and how long it took you playthough all the games since your video recently came out at that time. It really sucks to see what happened to ProJared. I really liked his content and contributions to ScrewAttack.
Thanks for showing up at 10AM!
7:30 you are welcome
your cool
“My former friend”.. pat won’t touch that with a ten foot pole..
Were they more than friends?
Herbie Husker don’t think so! Just saying that pat dissociated himself faster than a bullet train..
Why don't you listen to the entire segment first?
Pat the NES Punk I’m listening now.. so apparently he was already an asshole before the “accident” ?
@@__1201 sounds to me like hes only sharing a past experience with Jared. Not kicking anyone. Others are already doing that and honestly so the fuck what? Jared is obviously a douchebag.
Man, Pat. I'm happy I found you as a result of Spoony. Glad you're still you and still out there.
Happy late birthday pat bloodsport is a good movie
I would love for the whole podcast to be posted on TH-cam.
Honestly, Pat, I think this reflects poorly on you. Not only did you simply regurgitate what everyone else had said, but you went out of your way to provide further allegations of Jared's bad behavior with nothing but anecdotal examples. Hearsay, essentially.
I hope you take the time to make a follow-up now that Jared has provided his own rebuttal against the claims against him. At the very least, this whole thing should be a reminder that jumping to conclusions before the other party has given a proper rebuttal, and ESPECIALLY before the situation has resolved itself, that you should either not get involved in or be fair and get BOTH sides of the story before reporting.
He either won't do a follow up, or he'll do the backpedal saying he took too long to make the video, or he'll shame him for asking people to watch his videos, or he'll shame him for participating in something risque, or he'll say none of what he says matters to him.
Based on the type of people these 2 are, they are part of the group of children who believe that they can never be wrong, that no matter what evidence is provided the originally labeled victims are still the victims, and that a white male can't be a victim of abuse, manipulation, and harassment.
I mean, the dude has a big nose and is white...of course he's a cheating, abusive, child predator...right? Honestly, both of their opinions which they champion as truths have been nothing but attempts to be apart of this outlandish "moral authority" on the internet and it's just horrible.
@@Dilaudid281 I'm not going to assume their response, because to do so would be presumptuous and ignorant. Just like Jared's rebuttal, I'l wait and see before drawong a conclusion.
@@EgonRamis84 That is fair and true. I don't expect much personally, but do hope I am wrong with my expectations.
i guess you didn't watch the video. The video is only about Pat's first hand experience with Jared. He said the soliciting child pics are aleged and are not fact
I think it’s more of a “I use to know the guy. I chose not to speak publicly about this as I have my own biases feeding towards him as I knew him personally”.
Maybe reach out to the guy you knock knew to say “hey I plan to mention you in a podcast over the current drama. Do you have anything you’d like to day to help provide your perspective?”
But when are we getting a private 18+ CUPodcast snapchat?
Ahahahahaha
MarzGurl's account of her relationship seemed pretty close to what Pat experienced. She said on Twitter they were pretty close friends but as he got more popular he would communicate with her less and less until he finally just stopped. I imagine others have the same story. Personally I always liked some of his stuff but he came across a little douchey. I'm not really surprised at all he turned out to be a major douche.
That's why I like Ian. His total lack of fucks to give about what people think is genuine, and endearing in a prickly sort of way. Zero "manipulation", zero fucks given. Keep doin' you, boys.
Is this about Jared from Subway?
Never watched this guy. I probably saw him once or twice on The Video Game Years, and that's it. Still, it's sad that the TH-cam Community is diminishing like this. Just glad we still have you guys, James and a few others.