Just wanted to say thank you for all these great videos. Been going back and forth on a 7.3 and 6.7HO F250 Tremor and you’ve been an invaluable resource. The best I’ve found on TH-cam. Keep up the great content!
I have a 2022 F350 long bed stock 4x4 7.3. It has 66,000 miles on it now. It runs as smooth as new. Oil changes are EASY how they have it set up (and I put a brass 90-deg valve in place of the drain pan bolt - game changer!). It costs me about $56 for an oil change including FORD filter. Takes me 15 min including just inspecting everything while oil drains. No DEF. No fuel filters. Easy. My boss asked me to pull a 22,000 pound load to the dump for him. 16’ dump trailer full of bricks and other construction debris. We estimated weight CONSERVATIVELY based on load density and volume of bricks vs other stuff in there. Suffice it to say that that dump bed has twin hydraulic cylinders and dual batteries and it had “just enough” to lift that bed! We were afraid it wouldn’t lift so we tested it before hooking up. Anyway - 15 mile trip to dump on flat back roads. Zero issues pulling. Truck was a beast. Would a diesel have done it better? ABSOLUTELY! Not even a question. Hands down yes. But I don’t haul that heavy. Almost never. Just for fun I will haul heavy like that to test the Godzilla. Such a wonderful engine. Gas mileage sucks. I average like 14.7 around town and I drive like Grampa. Because I am Grampa. But like all children of the 70’s who drove big V8’s this engine thrills me when I jump on the accelerator. It has a ton of fun in the pedal. This could very well be my last truck. So I treat it with good maintenance. Oil changes are averaging 4600 miles between changes. I’d make the same decision again if I had to. And money doesn’t matter for me in a vehicle. I coulda bought a Platinum diesel but I drive a gas XLT. I love my truck. I’m proud of it. Oh. And there’s NOTHING like an 8’ bed. Just the best decision I ever made. Once you have an 8’ bed you never care for a 6.5’ bed ever again. She’s a big old white Beluga - that’s what my wife calls her. When I run my tractor around the lawn every time I pass the Beluga I find myself staring at her.
@@CTECH-REVIEW I bought a 2020 7.3l in the new f600. Glade I sold that truck back to the dealer because I'm hearing Alot of lifter problems on these. 1998 f800 with the cummins 5.9l 12v and allison trans beats the new models post covid. $6,500 goodie vs $65,000+ for a pile of post covid ford junk.
I just purchased a 2023 f250 with 7.3 /10,000 miles. I didn't know much about it. I traded a 3500 cummins dually. Your video is awesome! I now feel a lot better about my purchase. Thanks!
Excellent comparison. My wife even paused what she was doing to watch. It was very interesting and as others have pointed out there’s other cost not mentioned here to owning a diesel such as fuel filters.
I have been waiting for someone to make a video comparing these engines. One thing I would add: The 7.3 Godzilla looks like the most accessible engine for maintenance/repair that I have seen since the early 1970’s. For example: I think it would be possible to change spark plugs without taking any other engine components off!
I have had numerous diesels from all 3 since 94. All my guys drove them as well. In 2020 I switched to gas and haven't looked back. I pull a trailer daily and occasionally a front end loader and equipment. The boat on the weekends and she weighs 17k and although the gas does everything the diesels did...just at a slower pace and cost of ownership in fuel and maintenance is a lot less. I have leveled mine with a Carli level..added 37's..dual exhaust and a 5 star tune to adjust speedo and give me a lil power down low and extra tranny braking when towing. 80k miles and not a thing has gone wrong and Im ready for a 2025 but don't really need it. The 7.3 is better towing than the 6.6 gas we have and my friend has the 6.4 and that is about on par with the GM...maybe a lil less grunt when towing.
I have a 2023 F350 7.3 4.30 gears short bed. I tow a 5th wheel that's 34 ft long about 14klbs. I average 7-8MPG towing. I think my next truck will be a long bed diesel for the extra fuel, MPG, and towing ability. After towing through some of the small hills in Arkansas I want something that does hills better. I also hate having to plan all my gas stops because it's so hard to fit the truck in to get fuel. If I had a diesel I could just use truck lanes. It tows good. The hills had the engine brake screaming though. It was unsettling. I picked the 7.3 to avoid all the hassles of diesel. If it makes towing easier I will bear with the hassles.
@@cfsitera I looked at some of those options but I decided to stick with factory. I will most likely order a new super duty when they change it up in 26.
I use my F350 as my daily driver, many of my trips are less than 5 miles. When I tow it’s less than 12.5k. That’s why a 7.3 with 4.30 gears is perfect for me. I live on the West Coast, grades are not a problem.
Owned a 6.7 power stoke before it was unfortunately totaled. Now own a 7.3 Godzilla. I have a 23k pound fifth wheel. The gasser tows just as well as the diesel. 2-3 mpg worse than the diesel but only towing a couple times a year the Godzilla is easily the better option. No def system worries among other extra costs.
I plan on placing an order for a 25 F350 tremor soon and the main reason I didn’t go 6.7 is the potential for enormous repair costs when the warranty runs out.
I always had Ford diesels since 2001. Put on about 35 k a year at least. I finally bought the 7.3 gas. I tow a 4500lb truck camper across usa and back each year. This 7.3 does the trick. With 3.73's as well. 4.30 would keep the trans from shifting as much but this thing is great. So glad I offed the diesels.
who wants to buy a used diesel with no warranty vs gas a fuel replacement is more than a 7.3 engine replacement and simple to repair also you gave the price on fuel filters no labor at dealer oil change and fuel filters around 500.00 at dealership they would like you to do them every other oil change i know what they charge because my company truck is done there everytime and they want you use fuel additive every tank to protect the fuel system and that not cheap and you dont mention fuel in the winter blended or #1 for us who live in the north no mileage in this fuel and #1 straight way to dry bye itself these trucks are fine as long as you can afford to keep under warranty but most people are not at these prices thank you for your time and excellent videos
Thank you for the comments and for watching! A failed high pressure fuel system on a modern diesel truck could lead to a $7-15k repair. You could replace a brand new 7.3l crate engine for that price!
@@CTECH-REVIEW i totally agree a lost my last duramax broke crank 21k later back on the road drove for a few years while under warranty then sold it then bought 2024 f350 7.3 4.30 gears after having diesels over 25 yrs very happy with my decision
I kinda like how you're looking at the grand scale of things vs looking at one thing which usually applies to most things in life. I really really like that. That 7.3 can make a case for itself in certain situations. I think it may be quieter too compared to diesel.
My new F550 service truck is a year old, 8k miles, 16,500 lbs, 7.3, runs really good, but lost 4 plug wires and an O2 sensor, not much engine braking and 4k rpm regularly, no cam or 10 speed problems, yet... 8.5 mpg since new.
You are on the right track. However, do the comparison between the two over 100k miles. One of the major factors missed here is the higher cost of the diesel, increased sales tax, registration, insurance and " hopefully " the smog systems replacement costs if/when something goes wrong with the diesel?? If you're not towing often, you are way ahead with the gas. Resale? who cares if you're running the truck for 10-20 years.
See if you can get a hold of a 6.8L gas. I'd like to see how that compares against the 7.3L gas with 3:73 gears. Great content by the way, I love my 2023 Ford SD STX with 6.8L gas and 3:73 gears.
Finally a sensible review and one that honestly talks about resale of both engines. Of course you get more for the diesel, one would hope so you paid more lol. Thank you for this In depth review. I switched from the 6.7 after 4 years of owning to a 7.3 gas and will never own another diesel for my needs.
Great conclusion. I think when you factor in the failure rate and repair costs on the DPF systems the HD gas makes even more sense for the average Joe. Just my opinion.
Lots good info, and the numbers don’t really skew things dramatically either way…at least not enough for me. I drive what I enjoy driving the most! For now, that’s a diesel. 😊
Wish someone would test vehicles for those who could care less what the gas mileage is. Vehicles have always been enjoyable for me. I'm pushing 70 and have never paid any attention to mileage. There was a time I commuted 90 miles a day in an F250 in Chicago with a 460 in it. That was a blast. I buy a vehicle for fun and use it for transportation. Fun is always first because that will transfer to commuting. I certainly hope I never live to see the day that gas mileage matters to me. Currently, I'm driving a F350 7.3 10-speed and it is a blast. Sorry, I have no idea what the mileage is. It's a long bed with a 48-gallon tank. The dash says I can go 400-500 miles when I fill it up if that helps.
You’re a blessed man! Most people have to consider fuel economy as it’s one of the most expensive parts of vehicle ownership. Thank you for watching the channel!
I’ve been dreaming of a Diesel F250 since 6th grade. In my late 30’s now. Never purchased anything new - I drive an 06 Sierra 5.3 with 330,000 miles. Finally in an income position where I can cash purchase a new F250 in the next year or so. I’m so torn…. That little 6th grade boy inside wants the diesel, but I feel like the 7.3 is so much more practical. Also, I can work on just about any gas engine. Not sure if that’s an argument you’ve considered. Lots of hesitation with decreased understanding of working on these new diesels.
Exact same thing! My dream truck has always been a brand new F250 diesel. I own a roofing company and have 5 older Ram Diesels between years 1996 up to 2011 for crews to pull trailers and I’ve always driven newer F150’s to check on jobs with. I am at the point where I’m going to finally buy me a brand new F-250 but knowing what I know about my upkeep and repair costs on my diesel trucks, I think I’m going to get the 7.3 Godzilla. The part of me that has always dreamed of owning a new F250 diesel keeps telling me to get the 6.7 but the logical side of me is screaming to get the 7.3. Hell, my 2022 F150 with the 5.0 is rated for 13,600lbs but Ive towed a Dump trailer weighing 20,000LB in the past without a problem so I know the 7.3 will tow everything I need it to.
I love my 7.3 towing a 14k 5th wheel. One thing to point out is the 8th, 9th, and 10th gear are all still overdrive gears. I’ve pulled KBB number to compare resale value, and if you go back to 2020, the 1st year of the 7.3 and I compared Lariat trim with the only difference being the motor, and the diesel is only worth like $6k more. That $10k diesel option does not hold its value like it used to. I think people are nervous to buy a diesel that is out of warranty.
@@outdoorjeff it has done great for me. I live in Georgia, so I haven’t done like Colorado mountains, but I’ve towed up 7% grades with no problem. I was stopped at the base of one, and accelerated to 65mph on it.
I love my F250 7.3L 2020 and have no desire or need for the more expensive diesel truck. It tows my travel trailer easily over the mountain passes in Colorado and averages 11.2mpg and no rolling coal
Wow after 12k miles the biggest difference was $500 buck and most casses was 200 thats crazy def go with diesel if the cost is the same $500 savings over a year without all the headaches
It is very hard to find good diesel mechanics at the dealership today. There are three levels of mechanics: A, B, and C. C can change the oil and is usually the only one available at the dealership. This has been my experience with Chrysler, Ram, and Ford. Once my son had a Jeep with a diesel in it and needed warranty service. The selling dealer searched for a diesel mechanic just to fix his car. This is an example of how short-staffed they are in NJ.
Very sad to to hear that. There are some good dealers out there and obviously not some that are good. I hope you can get a better dealer in the future.! Thanks for watching
Went with a gas tremor 250 myself. I will hardly use the capability of that and will never really need the diesel. 7.3 sounds really good too when you step on it. Looking forward to adding a new exhaust and bigger tires when I change them in a few years.
I’ve been test driving them all lately and the last one I need to check is the mini Zilla 6.8. Anyone know much about those? Any good? The Godzilla was a fun machine to drive for sure and a very nice truck. I almost got it but don’t tow a lot it’s more of a daily driver and Cummins is scaring me now days.
I think it come down to how you use the truck. If you tow occasionally or lighter loads, gas is just fine. Towing all the time or heavy diesel makes sense
The diesel will definitely last long but will the rest of the truck last that long? The electronics, seats, paint, other drive train parts? Probably not before you’re tired of the vehicle and get tired of the other repairs that come with a high mileage vehicle. With a diesel you feel like you have to keep it for a long time because it’s a diesel and you need to justify the premium you paid for the truck. It’s easier to get out of a gas truck and not feel tied to it when something better comes along.
lets not forget the 12k upfront cost of the diesel, cant forget that minor detail, lol its really simple, everyone tries to complicate this gas vs diesel debate and there isnt one.....if you need a diesel you already know you do, for the rest a gas will work just fine.....and be cheaper overall i looked up value of my 2023 2500 high country resale value a few months back and the diesel was getting about 4-5k more than my gas, this was low mileage...these were listed prices not what they sold for so roughly about half the cost
@CTECH-REVIEW Well it's the 5th year in production and still haven't fixed it. I got a 23 f250 runs fine but there's a csp24b27 pcm update out for all superdutys but ford hasn't added my vin to list so I have to wait while my engine self destroys if I idle long. Ford literally told me it needs fixing but I have to wait for the vin to be added. I like the engine but wouldn't recommend it till the issue is confirmed fixed and ford is doing a horrible job so far 5 years building a engine and still haven't.
So basically you need the Fuel cost ( gas vs diesel) difference to be very close to really benefit in any Fuel savings the chart @4:53 shows the average gas was 10mpg and Diesel was 13.5mpg so 3.5 mpg better on the diesel. Currently gas vs Diesel fuel is only .20cents different in CA $4.19 gas( Costco) vs $4.39 Diesel (Mobil) (8-30-24) . When you do the calculation on fuel savings only @3.5 mpg difference and the .20 cents difference in Fuel its $1529 a year savings! 5 years that's $7626. At 4 mpg better its $1895 savings a year and 5 years is $9475. On your mixed Calculation you got 5.5 mpg better with the diesel!! so lets just see that for fun 5.5 mpg 1 year is $2382 savings and 5 years its $11,913. pretty solid savings of course all this changes with the cost of diesel!!! So that makes this hard to decide as we all know it can go much higher than gas so this clearly is only favorable when its close in cost like in the above example. Throw in the oil and def usage which is minor if you ask me especially if you doing you own oil you list it $113 for the def and $35 more for the oil change + $100 for a fuel filter (so $250 per year for those items roughly) , times those x 5 for the 5 year cost of course. Still big money savings with a diesel can be had!! I can guarantee the moment I get a diesel, diesel fuel will be much much more than gas lol!!!!!! Bottom line is lots of factors in your choice when it comes to cost, driving distance, short trips, long trips what your using it for, how many miles per year your doing etc etc.. Here's a good calculator if anyone needs it. calcnexus.com/fuel-cost-calculator.php?miles=12000&price1=4.19&price2=4.39&mpg1=8&mpg2=13.5&calc=1
The 7.3 will handle anything you can throw at it in a pickup. My brother's crew has one in their F-650 dump truck. The thing's been worked lile a slave for 3 years and doesn't complain.
Deleted diesel is no DEF, way better fuel economy, and much better towing and driving. You could throw a lift and big tires on a diesel and it wont change your mileage nearly as much as a gasser. Cant do much to a gas truck to improve performance unfortunately. Pair that with resale value and engine longevity, diesel is the way to go
decent points. However, the cummins is the best period. The truck is ass. The 7.3 will depreciate similar to any other v8 engine because around 200k (at best) they're gonna pop. If you plan to keep it a long time, the diesel is the answer. If you're going to use it for a while and get something else, gas is probably fine and the 7.3 being the current champion of said gas category.
Probably because they’re almost impossible to find. Most of the ones I have found are fleet vehicles or regular cab base model 2 Wheel Dr. Trying to find a crew cab four-wheel-drive with the 10 speed trans. I’ve never seen one and I’m connected to a lot of dealers.
Not everybody is poor. The definition of better isn't always cost per mile. I want to go up a hill at high altitude. My diesel gets almost double the mpg pulling 8000 pounds over the 7.3 gas.
the big problem with the 6.7 is: SYSTEMS you have at least 5 major systems that are very high cost on the diesel. the 7.3 is a basic motor... the diesel is very complex.. after the warranty is over the 6.7 is a liability. When the 6.7 is under warranty... well hell you can't beat it... it is the winner in any comparison... I appreciate the math here but you are not factoring in the cost after warranty... the complexity of the 6.7 is not attractive to people who need a reliable diesel after the warranty period and don't get me wrong about the reliablity after the warranty .. the 6.7 is a beast... but after the warranty the owner has to start paying $4k for this and $7k for that..
Would be cool to do a comparison of the 6.4 liter Hemi vs the 7.3 liter Godzilla V8 towing comparison would be neat great video stay safe and enjoy your day.
I agree I would like to do that as well. I have driven the 6.4 L hemi and I like how the transmission feels but I could tell even without towing it doesn’t have the low and torque of the 7.3l. I think in time I will be able to do this comparison thank you for the kind words and for watching
I had a 2018 6.4 hemi and recently traded for a 2024 7.3 KR SRW long bed with 4.30 rear and I couldn’t be happier from fit and finish to power. Towing a Montana 3901 14k dry 16k loaded 42ft fifth wheel. Tows my 20 ft HD trailer (little over 3k dry ) and my 24ft Yamaha ar240 about 4K dry, like it’s not there. Just hit 1500 miles so looking forward to towing the fifth wheel but I don’t think it will be a problem.
Fact remains most people who own these trucks dont tow or use the payload 99% of the time. Bunch of posers who pick up wood from home depot twice a year. Lame.
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Just wanted to say thank you for all these great videos. Been going back and forth on a 7.3 and 6.7HO F250 Tremor and you’ve been an invaluable resource. The best I’ve found on TH-cam. Keep up the great content!
Glad you like them! And thanks for watching!
So have you made a decision yet
I have a 2022 F350 long bed stock 4x4 7.3. It has 66,000 miles on it now. It runs as smooth as new. Oil changes are EASY how they have it set up (and I put a brass 90-deg valve in place of the drain pan bolt - game changer!). It costs me about $56 for an oil change including FORD filter. Takes me 15 min including just inspecting everything while oil drains. No DEF. No fuel filters. Easy.
My boss asked me to pull a 22,000 pound load to the dump for him. 16’ dump trailer full of bricks and other construction debris. We estimated weight CONSERVATIVELY based on load density and volume of bricks vs other stuff in there. Suffice it to say that that dump bed has twin hydraulic cylinders and dual batteries and it had “just enough” to lift that bed! We were afraid it wouldn’t lift so we tested it before hooking up.
Anyway - 15 mile trip to dump on flat back roads. Zero issues pulling. Truck was a beast. Would a diesel have done it better? ABSOLUTELY! Not even a question. Hands down yes.
But I don’t haul that heavy. Almost never. Just for fun I will haul heavy like that to test the Godzilla. Such a wonderful engine.
Gas mileage sucks. I average like 14.7 around town and I drive like Grampa. Because I am Grampa. But like all children of the 70’s who drove big V8’s this engine thrills me when I jump on the accelerator. It has a ton of fun in the pedal.
This could very well be my last truck. So I treat it with good maintenance. Oil changes are averaging 4600 miles between changes.
I’d make the same decision again if I had to. And money doesn’t matter for me in a vehicle. I coulda bought a Platinum diesel but I drive a gas XLT. I love my truck. I’m proud of it.
Oh. And there’s NOTHING like an 8’ bed. Just the best decision I ever made. Once you have an 8’ bed you never care for a 6.5’ bed ever again.
She’s a big old white Beluga - that’s what my wife calls her. When I run my tractor around the lawn every time I pass the Beluga I find myself staring at her.
Thanks for the comment and thank you for watching, sounds like you got a good one!!
I bought a Godzilla 2024 in June and am totally impressed. No diesel issues to worry about.
heck ya!! 7.3 FTW!
@@CTECH-REVIEW I bought a 2020 7.3l in the new f600.
Glade I sold that truck back to the dealer because I'm hearing Alot of lifter problems on these.
1998 f800 with the cummins 5.9l 12v and allison trans beats the new models post covid.
$6,500 goodie vs $65,000+ for a pile of post covid ford junk.
I just purchased a 2023 f250 with 7.3 /10,000 miles. I didn't know much about it. I traded a 3500 cummins dually. Your video is awesome! I now feel a lot better about my purchase. Thanks!
Glad it helped!
Excellent comparison. My wife even paused what she was doing to watch. It was very interesting and as others have pointed out there’s other cost not mentioned here to owning a diesel such as fuel filters.
Thank you for watching. I’m glad you both enjoyed. I’ve got some more videos coming soon on similar topics!
I have been waiting for someone to make a video comparing these engines. One thing I would add: The 7.3 Godzilla looks like the most accessible engine for maintenance/repair that I have seen since the early 1970’s. For example: I think it would be possible to change spark plugs without taking any other engine components off!
I agree that that’s what I love about it the simplistic nature
I have had numerous diesels from all 3 since 94. All my guys drove them as well. In 2020 I switched to gas and haven't looked back. I pull a trailer daily and occasionally a front end loader and equipment. The boat on the weekends and she weighs 17k and although the gas does everything the diesels did...just at a slower pace and cost of ownership in fuel and maintenance is a lot less. I have leveled mine with a Carli level..added 37's..dual exhaust and a 5 star tune to adjust speedo and give me a lil power down low and extra tranny braking when towing. 80k miles and not a thing has gone wrong and Im ready for a 2025 but don't really need it. The 7.3 is better towing than the 6.6 gas we have and my friend has the 6.4 and that is about on par with the GM...maybe a lil less grunt when towing.
Heck ya. A lot of people making that move. I am considering it also.
What rears?
@@HAUSS81 I have the 3:55 gears. They now have the 3:73
@@Jassman3536the 3.55 are a disservice to the 7.3, that's why Ford no longer offers it with the 7.3
@@Jassman3536 Thank you. Was planning on ordering one with the 4.30 for 37s.
I have a 2023 F350 7.3 4.30 gears short bed. I tow a 5th wheel that's 34 ft long about 14klbs. I average 7-8MPG towing. I think my next truck will be a long bed diesel for the extra fuel, MPG, and towing ability. After towing through some of the small hills in Arkansas I want something that does hills better. I also hate having to plan all my gas stops because it's so hard to fit the truck in to get fuel. If I had a diesel I could just use truck lanes. It tows good. The hills had the engine brake screaming though. It was unsettling. I picked the 7.3 to avoid all the hassles of diesel. If it makes towing easier I will bear with the hassles.
Great comment. Thanks for sharing
They make a larger fuel tank for the 7.3 gas truck now. Think it’s 50 gallons from Titan. Could help your range problems.
@@cfsitera I looked at some of those options but I decided to stick with factory. I will most likely order a new super duty when they change it up in 26.
Cummins is having big problems with the 2019-present engines eating themselves.
I use my F350 as my daily driver, many of my trips are less than 5 miles. When I tow it’s less than 12.5k. That’s why a 7.3 with 4.30 gears is perfect for me. I live on the West Coast, grades are not a problem.
Good move!
Owned a 6.7 power stoke before it was unfortunately totaled. Now own a 7.3 Godzilla. I have a 23k pound fifth wheel. The gasser tows just as well as the diesel. 2-3 mpg worse than the diesel but only towing a couple times a year the Godzilla is easily the better option. No def system worries among other extra costs.
Heck ya! Great to hear! Thanks for watching
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I plan on placing an order for a 25 F350 tremor soon and the main reason I didn’t go 6.7 is the potential for enormous repair costs when the warranty runs out.
I can see why you’d be hesitant with the diesel engine.
Great video ! All the new class A gas motorhomes I've looked at have the 7.3... Do you have any thoughts on how well that would perform ? Thanks
I think it would be a great engine for the class a trucks!
I always had Ford diesels since 2001. Put on about 35 k a year at least. I finally bought the 7.3 gas. I tow a 4500lb truck camper across usa and back each year. This 7.3 does the trick. With 3.73's as well. 4.30 would keep the trans from shifting as much but this thing is great. So glad I offed the diesels.
Thank you for the comment and for watching!
Good thing u don’t live in Colorado haha
@@dougbui3646 We blew right over the rockies about 5 times this past season. No problem.
who wants to buy a used diesel with no warranty vs gas a fuel replacement is more than a 7.3 engine replacement and simple to repair also you gave the price on fuel filters no labor at dealer oil change and fuel filters around 500.00 at dealership they would like you to do them every other oil change i know what they charge because my company truck is done there everytime and they want you use fuel additive every tank to protect the fuel system and that not cheap and you dont mention fuel in the winter blended or #1 for us who live in the north no mileage in this fuel and #1 straight way to dry bye itself these trucks are fine as long as you can afford to keep under warranty but most people are not at these prices thank you for your time and excellent videos
Thank you for the comments and for watching! A failed high pressure fuel system on a modern diesel truck could lead to a $7-15k repair. You could replace a brand new 7.3l crate engine for that price!
@@CTECH-REVIEW i totally agree a lost my last duramax broke crank 21k later back on the road drove for a few years while under warranty then sold it then bought 2024 f350 7.3 4.30 gears after having diesels over 25 yrs very happy with my decision
I kinda like how you're looking at the grand scale of things vs looking at one thing which usually applies to most things in life. I really really like that. That 7.3 can make a case for itself in certain situations. I think it may be quieter too compared to diesel.
Thank you for your comment!
My new F550 service truck is a year old, 8k miles, 16,500 lbs, 7.3, runs really good, but lost 4 plug wires and an O2 sensor, not much engine braking and 4k rpm regularly, no cam or 10 speed problems, yet... 8.5 mpg since new.
Nice! They are a beast
You are on the right track. However, do the comparison between the two over 100k miles. One of the major factors missed here is the higher cost of the diesel, increased sales tax, registration, insurance and " hopefully " the smog systems replacement costs if/when something goes wrong with the diesel?? If you're not towing often, you are way ahead with the gas. Resale? who cares if you're running the truck for 10-20 years.
I agree…more videos coming with expert opinions on this topic!
See if you can get a hold of a 6.8L gas. I'd like to see how that compares against the 7.3L gas with 3:73 gears. Great content by the way, I love my 2023 Ford SD STX with 6.8L gas and 3:73 gears.
I have been trying for over a year. Super hard to find.
Finally a sensible review and one that honestly talks about resale of both engines. Of course you get more for the diesel, one would hope so you paid more lol. Thank you for this In depth review. I switched from the 6.7 after 4 years of owning to a 7.3 gas and will never own another diesel for my needs.
Thank you very much!
Great conclusion. I think when you factor in the failure rate and repair costs on the DPF systems the HD gas makes even more sense for the average Joe. Just my opinion.
Thank you for the comment and for watching!
Lots good info, and the numbers don’t really skew things dramatically either way…at least not enough for me. I drive what I enjoy driving the most! For now, that’s a diesel. 😊
Well said! Thanks for watching. I have a diesel too FWIW.
Wish someone would test vehicles for those who could care less what the gas mileage is. Vehicles have always been enjoyable for me. I'm pushing 70 and have never paid any attention to mileage. There was a time I commuted 90 miles a day in an F250 in Chicago with a 460 in it. That was a blast. I buy a vehicle for fun and use it for transportation. Fun is always first because that will transfer to commuting. I certainly hope I never live to see the day that gas mileage matters to me. Currently, I'm driving a F350 7.3 10-speed and it is a blast. Sorry, I have no idea what the mileage is. It's a long bed with a 48-gallon tank. The dash says I can go 400-500 miles when I fill it up if that helps.
You’re a blessed man! Most people have to consider fuel economy as it’s one of the most expensive parts of vehicle ownership. Thank you for watching the channel!
I’ve been dreaming of a Diesel F250 since 6th grade. In my late 30’s now. Never purchased anything new - I drive an 06 Sierra 5.3 with 330,000 miles. Finally in an income position where I can cash purchase a new F250 in the next year or so. I’m so torn…. That little 6th grade boy inside wants the diesel, but I feel like the 7.3 is so much more practical.
Also, I can work on just about any gas engine. Not sure if that’s an argument you’ve considered.
Lots of hesitation with decreased understanding of working on these new diesels.
7.3 is simple. But power , range and ease of towing the diesel is awesome. Until you have problems!
Exact same thing! My dream truck has always been a brand new F250 diesel. I own a roofing company and have 5 older Ram Diesels between years 1996 up to 2011 for crews to pull trailers and I’ve always driven newer F150’s to check on jobs with. I am at the point where I’m going to finally buy me a brand new F-250 but knowing what I know about my upkeep and repair costs on my diesel trucks, I think I’m going to get the 7.3 Godzilla. The part of me that has always dreamed of owning a new F250 diesel keeps telling me to get the 6.7 but the logical side of me is screaming to get the 7.3. Hell, my 2022 F150 with the 5.0 is rated for 13,600lbs but Ive towed a Dump trailer weighing 20,000LB in the past without a problem so I know the 7.3 will tow everything I need it to.
I love my 7.3 towing a 14k 5th wheel.
One thing to point out is the 8th, 9th, and 10th gear are all still overdrive gears.
I’ve pulled KBB number to compare resale value, and if you go back to 2020, the 1st year of the 7.3 and I compared Lariat trim with the only difference being the motor, and the diesel is only worth like $6k more. That $10k diesel option does not hold its value like it used to. I think people are nervous to buy a diesel that is out of warranty.
I completely agree with your comments, thank you for watching!
Do you have any issues towing 14k up and down in the mountains with the 7.3? We are considering getting a 7.3 350 to tow a 14.5k 5th wheel. Thanks
@@outdoorjeff it has done great for me. I live in Georgia, so I haven’t done like Colorado mountains, but I’ve towed up 7% grades with no problem. I was stopped at the base of one, and accelerated to 65mph on it.
I love my F250 7.3L 2020 and have no desire or need for the more expensive diesel truck. It tows my travel trailer easily over the mountain passes in Colorado and averages 11.2mpg and no rolling coal
Good stuff! Nice truck!
Wow after 12k miles the biggest difference was $500 buck and most casses was 200 thats crazy def go with diesel if the cost is the same $500 savings over a year without all the headaches
Exactly!!
I have 2023 F250 7.3 gas tremor.So far so good. Fuel mileage is 20L/100km
Thank you for watching, and for the comment!
It is very hard to find good diesel mechanics at the dealership today. There are three levels of mechanics: A, B, and C. C can change the oil and is usually the only one available at the dealership. This has been my experience with Chrysler, Ram, and Ford. Once my son had a Jeep with a diesel in it and needed warranty service. The selling dealer searched for a diesel mechanic just to fix his car. This is an example of how short-staffed they are in NJ.
Very sad to to hear that. There are some good dealers out there and obviously not some that are good. I hope you can get a better dealer in the future.! Thanks for watching
And how do you find a good diesel mechanic when you're pulling a 5th wheel, 600 miles from home? Wishful thinking.
I have a 7.3 in my 250 and its my daily. I only have about 22k miles on it but the mileage didnt change from new.
Good to know! Thank you for the comment!
You maybe showed it , but just curious , what is the payload of the 7.3 compared to the diesel ?
Payload is slightly more on the gas since the truck weighs slightly less.
@@gregjames5070 understandable, but what is it ? In the 4x4 configuration ? Thanks 😊
@@captainmidnight7012 my 24 350 7.3 gas platinium is 3998
@@timtroia3785 thanks for the info, that’s awesome payload , I would assume the F250 would be around the same thanks again.
A 250 will be about 1k less. My 350 has a gvwr if 11499. 250 will be 10500 for 7 3 gas.
Went with a gas tremor 250 myself. I will hardly use the capability of that and will never really need the diesel. 7.3 sounds really good too when you step on it. Looking forward to adding a new exhaust and bigger tires when I change them in a few years.
Thanks for sharing!
I’ve been test driving them all lately and the last one I need to check is the mini Zilla 6.8. Anyone know much about those? Any good? The Godzilla was a fun machine to drive for sure and a very nice truck. I almost got it but don’t tow a lot it’s more of a daily driver and Cummins is scaring me now days.
I hear ya! I still love my Cummins. But I also like 7.3 too. Never driven a 6.8…yet!
I think it come down to how you use the truck. If you tow occasionally or lighter loads, gas is just fine. Towing all the time or heavy diesel makes sense
I agree great,, thank you for watching
With me, it's about longevity on the truck. How long will the gas last
Great question. I think we all want to know that.
The diesel will definitely last long but will the rest of the truck last that long? The electronics, seats, paint, other drive train parts? Probably not before you’re tired of the vehicle and get tired of the other repairs that come with a high mileage vehicle. With a diesel you feel like you have to keep it for a long time because it’s a diesel and you need to justify the premium you paid for the truck. It’s easier to get out of a gas truck and not feel tied to it when something better comes along.
Gas will way way outlast the diesel these days!!
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What your saying is you can never payoff the diesel with savings on operations
According to the math, I think it’s a tough recoup on ROI.
I would love to go to a big gas engine but towing a big toy hauler without a engine exhaust break would be brutal.
Diesel wins big in this category!
The one you don't have a payment on costs less.
Agreed!
lets not forget the 12k upfront cost of the diesel, cant forget that minor detail, lol
its really simple, everyone tries to complicate this gas vs diesel debate and there isnt one.....if you need a diesel you already know you do, for the rest a gas will work just fine.....and be cheaper overall
i looked up value of my 2023 2500 high country resale value a few months back and the diesel was getting about 4-5k more than my gas, this was low mileage...these were listed prices not what they sold for so roughly about half the cost
Great comment and points on resale!
My 7.3L gas is the beast at towing
I believe it
What about resale for people who trade every 3 years?
Resale has been pretty good for many vehicles in past few years!
Which one lat longer!?
Great question! All depends on people’s opinion!
Do one extra long term. 20 years, 400k+ miles. Will the 7.3 still be going strong?
Great point. I want to know also!
7.3 is good if they fix the low oil pressure at idle issue wiping out lifters and cams.
not good! I thought that was getting fixed.
@CTECH-REVIEW Well it's the 5th year in production and still haven't fixed it. I got a 23 f250 runs fine but there's a csp24b27 pcm update out for all superdutys but ford hasn't added my vin to list so I have to wait while my engine self destroys if I idle long. Ford literally told me it needs fixing but I have to wait for the vin to be added. I like the engine but wouldn't recommend it till the issue is confirmed fixed and ford is doing a horrible job so far 5 years building a engine and still haven't.
7.3 gas in a heartbeat!
It’s an awesome engine!
So basically you need the Fuel cost ( gas vs diesel) difference to be very close to really benefit in any Fuel savings the chart @4:53 shows the average gas was 10mpg and Diesel was 13.5mpg so 3.5 mpg better on the diesel. Currently gas vs Diesel fuel is only .20cents different in CA $4.19 gas( Costco) vs $4.39 Diesel (Mobil) (8-30-24) . When you do the calculation on fuel savings only @3.5 mpg difference and the .20 cents difference in Fuel its $1529 a year savings! 5 years that's $7626. At 4 mpg better its $1895 savings a year and 5 years is $9475. On your mixed Calculation you got 5.5 mpg better with the diesel!! so lets just see that for fun 5.5 mpg 1 year is $2382 savings and 5 years its $11,913. pretty solid savings of course all this changes with the cost of diesel!!! So that makes this hard to decide as we all know it can go much higher than gas so this clearly is only favorable when its close in cost like in the above example. Throw in the oil and def usage which is minor if you ask me especially if you doing you own oil you list it $113 for the def and $35 more for the oil change + $100 for a fuel filter (so $250 per year for those items roughly) , times those x 5 for the 5 year cost of course. Still big money savings with a diesel can be had!! I can guarantee the moment I get a diesel, diesel fuel will be much much more than gas lol!!!!!! Bottom line is lots of factors in your choice when it comes to cost, driving distance, short trips, long trips what your using it for, how many miles per year your doing etc etc.. Here's a good calculator if anyone needs it. calcnexus.com/fuel-cost-calculator.php?miles=12000&price1=4.19&price2=4.39&mpg1=8&mpg2=13.5&calc=1
Thank you for sharing....I agree its fun looking at all the different angles
Cost of repairs on both. Repair DEF or injectors.
Yup!
The 7.3 will handle anything you can throw at it in a pickup.
My brother's crew has one in their F-650 dump truck. The thing's been worked lile a slave for 3 years and doesn't complain.
I agree 7.3 is awesome!
Deleted diesel is no DEF, way better fuel economy, and much better towing and driving. You could throw a lift and big tires on a diesel and it wont change your mileage nearly as much as a gasser. Cant do much to a gas truck to improve performance unfortunately. Pair that with resale value and engine longevity, diesel is the way to go
A lot of truth and what you’re saying, thanks for watching
Second I saw them vipers I knew I was in the right place.
Yes!! Let’s go!
decent points. However, the cummins is the best period. The truck is ass. The 7.3 will depreciate similar to any other v8 engine because around 200k (at best) they're gonna pop. If you plan to keep it a long time, the diesel is the answer. If you're going to use it for a while and get something else, gas is probably fine and the 7.3 being the current champion of said gas category.
I don’t disagree! Thanks for the comment and for watching!
I wanna see how the 6.8 super duty tows. No one's has made a video of that yet. I least i haven't seen one.
Probably because they’re almost impossible to find. Most of the ones I have found are fleet vehicles or regular cab base model 2 Wheel Dr. Trying to find a crew cab four-wheel-drive with the 10 speed trans. I’ve never seen one and I’m connected to a lot of dealers.
@CTECH-REVIEW damn that bad huh? Good luck then.
Believe you can only get 2wd with the 6.8L and XL.
Something about if you go 4x4 you have to get the 7.3L minimum
Diesels also cost more for insurance, registration, and if you’re financing you’re paying more interest
Great points I didn’t think about!
Not everybody is poor. The definition of better isn't always cost per mile. I want to go up a hill at high altitude.
My diesel gets almost double the mpg pulling 8000 pounds over the 7.3 gas.
Very nice!
High altitude is where diesel shines over gas
You should really just let the Ford transmission make its own decisions, they are based on programming the engineers thought were best.
Great comment, I agree!
Buy what you want and can afford simply 😮
Great comment, I agree! Thanks for watching
Yes
Thanks for sharing
the big problem with the 6.7 is: SYSTEMS you have at least 5 major systems that are very high cost on the diesel. the 7.3 is a basic motor... the diesel is very complex.. after the warranty is over the 6.7 is a liability. When the 6.7 is under warranty... well hell you can't beat it... it is the winner in any comparison... I appreciate the math here but you are not factoring in the cost after warranty... the complexity of the 6.7 is not attractive to people who need a reliable diesel after the warranty period and don't get me wrong about the reliablity after the warranty .. the 6.7 is a beast... but after the warranty the owner has to start paying $4k for this and $7k for that..
I completely agree! Thank you for the comment.
In 24 the platinum only comes in 4x4.
Yes!
Your gas cost is $.30 per gallon cheaper than the diesel… It’s $.90 difference everywhere I’ve seen.
Dang!
Would be cool to do a comparison of the 6.4 liter Hemi vs the 7.3 liter Godzilla V8 towing comparison would be neat great video stay safe and enjoy your day.
I agree I would like to do that as well. I have driven the 6.4 L hemi and I like how the transmission feels but I could tell even without towing it doesn’t have the low and torque of the 7.3l. I think in time I will be able to do this comparison thank you for the kind words and for watching
I had a 2018 6.4 hemi and recently traded for a 2024 7.3 KR SRW long bed with 4.30 rear and I couldn’t be happier from fit and finish to power. Towing a Montana 3901 14k dry 16k loaded 42ft fifth wheel. Tows my 20 ft HD trailer (little over 3k dry ) and my 24ft Yamaha ar240 about 4K dry, like it’s not there. Just hit 1500 miles so looking forward to towing the fifth wheel but I don’t think it will be a problem.
@@vincew.6905 is your truck a XL trim or XLT and do you have the folding front bench seat in the middle?
@@CTECH-REVIEW no problem no need to rush it either.
The hemi is a turd by comparison.
Fact remains most people who own these trucks dont tow or use the payload 99% of the time. Bunch of posers who pick up wood from home depot twice a year. Lame.
I don’t disagree with that!
Neither Ford, 7.3s eat cams & PS crank gear is pressed on.
Cummins HO
I like my Cummins….but that 7.3 impressed me for a gas engine.
There is no smart choice when buying Fords..........😫.
Haha! Thanks for watching
I'd get a diesel.. anyday 🛻
They are awesome