Hey brother, Hope you've been well. I've finally had time to sit down and start messing around with the Fusion Pro 3 and I found out a method that's not 100% but it eliminates the whole hyper input feel to this controller. I have always felt that if you could get a larger diameter circle to calibrate the sticks then it would minimize the feeling of the hyper response. I have tried countless amounts of things without success apart from the last thing i tried last night. The black friction rings around the sticks, If you just take them out (They are pretty well wedged in) and then calibrate the controller. It has a more linear feel to the sticks. atleast from my tests. Also if it's not responsive enough you can adjust the outset deadzone through the app to try and fine tune it. It's not perfect as without the friction rings it does have jagged edges. But imo I don't ever fully extent the sticks and rotate anyways so it's not an issue for me. I'm going to do some more tests in the future but I thought you would find this interesting. Have a good day mate
The next thing I want to try is calibrate it without the friction rings. Then put the rings back on and adjust the outer deadzone. It might not make a difference but maybe it will somehow change the input values and the hyper input will be removed.
After testing it, Deadzone Anywhere between 0-3% is fine outer deadzone between 7-15% seems to feel nice in apex playing linear-none deadzone., definitely not perfect but it makes the controller feel somewhat playable for now
Bro that’s an amazing tip! I’ll definitely try that today. The extra diagonal input definitely makes it difficult to adjust to, this might do the trick to tame it a bit.
@@thephototechy definitely try it out. I found putting a 1% dead zone on I did a little less twitchy and more stable but ultimately it's whatever you prefer. I ended up staying on 10% outer dead zone makes it a little faster but also not too twitchy. Also I noticed when you put the friction rig back on and you test out the sticks on controller tester. Aiming right was 4% greater input than aiming left. It is a little imbalanced but overall for the stability this little trick made this controller for me I'm fine with it.
@@thephototechy I don't want to jump the gun and say it but I feel like I've made this controller feel very similar to the victrix gambit. And honestly that's all I could ever ask for haha. Let me know how it treats you. B
I owned the previous Fusion Pro for PS and Pro 2 for Xbox, both with capacitive stick modules. I loved the build of the controllers, but the sticks were soft for me, I wanted more tension, and was not a fan of the back paddles, I did not hate them either, but I thought they would not be durable, so I sold them. I might try this one.
Hey bro I do like the back buttons on this one a lot, but I never tried the pro2 and it’s pedals, also not sure what aiming output was on the pro2. This one can feel a bit uncontrollable at first, but with adjusted game settings can work well. I only started using it, as I needed something I could quickly press back buttons for jump shots.
I dont know if you will respond But I tried the update for my controller and it didnt update correctly my controller actually didnt fully update it canceled mid update and my triggers and sticks are screwed up Ive tried everything but asking for help So Im hoping you or someone can help me out
Thanks for covering this further, I got this controller a few months ago thanks to your awesome video and breakdown, also calibrated it based on your other video as well. Just a quick question where do I get this update? I have the app installed from before but it doesn't seem to have an update, also checked the MS store where I got it from and no update there as well. Cheers for the awesome breakdowns and vids!
Hey bro you are most welcome! So I got the update through the Microsoft store on pc and Xbox just showed an update available. Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling the app?
@@thephototechy oh dam haha I need to uninstall and reinstall? Ok that's weird they should just update the app as normal, anyways, thanks so much I'm gonna try it tonight after work 🙏
@@thephototechy I tried the update again from the MS store and no updates at all for it. Strange but the app isn't any different even after I uninstalled & reintalled it
@@CliveThorpe that’s very strange indeed bro. So you only see that test page after you select the controller? I’d say definitely reach out to PowerA and see if it’s something with your unit. I remember there was an update long time ago, which I had to download a separate client for from the website, but that was not stricter by the app. Not sure if you did that as well in the past, it could be that my controller had that firmware so the software shows different options to me. If you never had that first update it might be these aren’t available for your firmware, just a theory.
What’s wrong with these controller app?? They never reset to default when I press it. How can I configure anything when I can’t reset the controller back to default in the app. Are you having these problems with the app? Sticks, remap buttons trigger tab every time I hit restore to default it don’t do anything.
@@thephototechy yeah I manually calibrated it and could see the inputs but everytime I moved my joysticks to the top right, it triggers my LT and RT but pressing the triggers themselves does nothing
@@Jaylensity I take it this happens with adjusting the minimum deadzones for triggers as well? Very strange as the triggers are Hall effect and sticks are potentiometer. I’ve successfully calibrated mine through the software and the forced manual calibration method a good few times. Can you try calibrating controller and keeping the triggers lock engaged to the second place and not fully unlocked, see if that register changes or disappear after calibrating like this.
As soon as I did the firmware update it caused my controller to not work the buttons just do what they want to do and I have no idea how to bring up the back buttons.
Hey, how are you? What's up? Im currently working on xp camos in cod and warzone camos, im ready for bo6 Looks like you have a big hand too, is the fusion pro 3 back buttons still comfortable for you? I watched your review multiple times
Hey man so good to hear from you, the back buttons do challenge me on this controller, specially the top left one. I really have to focus as to not accidentally press that one. Still I can use the back buttons really well, it that twitchy aim response can be a hurdle. If they can somehow give us a proper raw output with not so extracted diagonals, then this one makes a lot of sense.
My combination of button stopped working after update..i.e i had lb+rb press simultaneously mapped to one of the back button. It stopped working after update. Did anyone have same issue and have a fix.
Hey if 2 back buttons are enough for you, then for me 100% yes. G7se to aim with on Xbox with 1000hz os definitely a lot more predictable and manageable than this one. I only started using this, so I could bunny hop with 4 back buttons like a lot of others in my lobbies 😂. For jumping like crazy, the back buttons on this one work well. If PowerA changes the aim output to true raw, this potentially could be the go to 4 back buttons controller for me.
I need your advice please, I have Dualsense Edge but I need a controller with 4 Back Buttons, I'm playing Apex Legends, Call of Duty & some other FPS games on PS5. Which one of this controllers you can recommend it to me to buy it now? - 1) Nacon REVOLUTION Pro 5 - 2) Victrix BFG Pro. I watched your videos about the Razer Wolverine v2 Pro & I trusted your words & I didn't put it on the list. I bought the Dualsense Edge because I suffer from stick drift & I bought for about 4 new controllers since PS5 released but now i need 4 back buttons. But also I don't want to after 6 or 8 months to buy another one. Waiting for your response. Thanks. Wish you a good luck.
Hey bro, so the issue with the wolverine v2 pro is with BFG and Nacon as well. I’ve tested them both against edge and they just don’t compare to the aiming performance of edge. The controllers are great on their own, but Sony has made it so their own controller performs the best on PS5. The difference is minor and depending on you skill and play style, you can easily get used to them, but for me edge is the only one for PS5, even though I love the Xbox style controllers. Still if you need a controller with 4 back buttons, I’d suggest looking at something like a modified dualsense with 4 back buttons. Between the BFG and Nacon, I’d highly recommend waiting for the BFG Hall effect module release and see how that performs, as that can potentially be a long term solution for stick drift, and might perform better than Revolution 5 pro on PS5.
@@thephototechy Thanks bro for your reply, I really appreciate it. Sorry for disturbing you, Can you tell me please what is the brand name that they modified dualsense with 4 back buttons? So I can buy it now till BFG Hall effect release. I was trying to search and buy Scuf Reflex FPS but I couldn't find it in the country that I live in it now, and they don't shipping it to this country. Waiting for your reply. Thanks again and sorry for disturbing you.
@@djvalentinoz bro I myself is drooling all over scuff reflex too 😂. There are other ones like Aim and Hex. Also there is a DIY kit called rise remap4 by extreme rate, which one can install themselves on a standard dualsense. I’ve done that to one of my controllers and it does work well, but I’ve started noticing some issues with it, might need to make a video on it as well.
@Teilzeit02 agreed , I was skeptical because it's their newest controller but it's what I was looking for in the g7 se ;clicking buttons, black face plate some lighting .
Hey G7se I can recommend with no issues, Kalied I think I’ll be getting this weekend as the shape might be better for me. Hopefully will get a review out soon.
Hey it used to be very basic at launch, but at some point they added a decent amount of functionality to it, hopefully they can add a custom response curve to tame that aiming output a bit.
Hello, can you please check if these new features like dead zone and remap are also available for other powera controllers like advantage or spectra infinity?
@@tomato5678 hey bro I wish I could but I dont have the advantage and spectra anymore. I do remember the enhanced being able to do a calibration through software when even the fusion pro 3 couldn’t.
Hey danke für dein Video. Ich würde den auch gerne testen. Ich habe Zuhause den Scuf Invision Pro und muss sagen das der Kontroller mehr AIM assist hat als alle anderen auf PC in CoD. Ich weiss nicht warum das so ist aber es ist echt bemerkbar für mich. Es kann aber auch sein das es ein Placebo Effekt ist. Aber ich fühle es irgendwie. Ich warte nur darauf bis du den Kontroller auch testest und deine Meinung dazu.
Hey yes once I can get a gaming pc that one is definitely on the list. I've just discovered how bad xbox is against pc, a video on this is coming in a few days. Honestly its made me a bit upset as I always thought pc only had better graphics, but the reality is a lot different. It just doesn't make sense to play on xbox, specially multiplayer games where crossplay is forced.
@@ott_cyntixx same !! this was a warranty replacement for my pro 2 and they sent me a pro 3 fast, unfortunately idk if it's a bad refurbished unit or what but it had terrible drift (all over the screen). tried the app and also the compatibility app per customer support and it won't even let me calibrate and I cant reset it seems either. I've been dealing with support for over a week and pretty sure they aren't going to do anything else about it. It could have been damaged in shipping? I wish they would just let me go get one from the store instead of sending me in troubleshooting circles!! I've tried on 2pcs, 1 brand new and fully updated, and 3 different boxes. Anyone happen to get a solution if not able to update??
They really need to get rid of the built in dead zone. It’s so annoying I play 0 deadzone and it feels so stiff with this controller, compared to my power a fusion pro 2. My aim feels way more snappier and consistent. I’m on apex legends 4-3 linear no deadzone^^
Look at his most recent video. I have a little trick that I shared with him and he describes it in full. You will love this controller once you do it trust me. I play 4-3 Lin none deadzone on apex aswell
Also with the built in deadzone. If you do a software update on the PC through the powera app it will remove that built in deadzone. It just unlocks the controller. Trust me
@@VTMfps yeah name. Just look search powera on the store and you'll find it and then update through that. It's super easy. Trust me it will change the controller
yeah the hyper response fucked my shit up after updating it today i shouldn’t even have updated the firmware, now my aiming is horrible ASF. if you haven’t updated, don’t update the firmware
@@Wagerwhizz hey so the aim algorithm has stayed the same with 13% error rate figure due to the extra diagonals. My controller even before the update had the same output. Have you done a manual calibration and checked if stick output is linear and reached max register at close to physical thumbstick gate?
Hey brother, Hope you've been well.
I've finally had time to sit down and start messing around with the Fusion Pro 3 and I found out a method that's not 100% but it eliminates the whole hyper input feel to this controller.
I have always felt that if you could get a larger diameter circle to calibrate the sticks then it would minimize the feeling of the hyper response. I have tried countless amounts of things without success apart from the last thing i tried last night.
The black friction rings around the sticks, If you just take them out (They are pretty well wedged in) and then calibrate the controller. It has a more linear feel to the sticks. atleast from my tests. Also if it's not responsive enough you can adjust the outset deadzone through the app to try and fine tune it.
It's not perfect as without the friction rings it does have jagged edges. But imo I don't ever fully extent the sticks and rotate anyways so it's not an issue for me. I'm going to do some more tests in the future but I thought you would find this interesting. Have a good day mate
The next thing I want to try is calibrate it without the friction rings. Then put the rings back on and adjust the outer deadzone. It might not make a difference but maybe it will somehow change the input values and the hyper input will be removed.
After testing it, Deadzone Anywhere between 0-3% is fine
outer deadzone between 7-15% seems to feel nice in apex playing linear-none deadzone., definitely not perfect but it makes the controller feel somewhat playable for now
Bro that’s an amazing tip! I’ll definitely try that today. The extra diagonal input definitely makes it difficult to adjust to, this might do the trick to tame it a bit.
@@thephototechy definitely try it out. I found putting a 1% dead zone on I did a little less twitchy and more stable but ultimately it's whatever you prefer. I ended up staying on 10% outer dead zone makes it a little faster but also not too twitchy.
Also I noticed when you put the friction rig back on and you test out the sticks on controller tester. Aiming right was 4% greater input than aiming left. It is a little imbalanced but overall for the stability this little trick made this controller for me I'm fine with it.
@@thephototechy I don't want to jump the gun and say it but I feel like I've made this controller feel very similar to the victrix gambit. And honestly that's all I could ever ask for haha. Let me know how it treats you. B
This fucking update broke my controller. Thank you so much....
same here bro so fucking annoying
did this ever get resolved?
I owned the previous Fusion Pro for PS and Pro 2 for Xbox, both with capacitive stick modules. I loved the build of the controllers, but the sticks were soft for me, I wanted more tension, and was not a fan of the back paddles, I did not hate them either, but I thought they would not be durable, so I sold them. I might try this one.
Hey bro I do like the back buttons on this one a lot, but I never tried the pro2 and it’s pedals, also not sure what aiming output was on the pro2. This one can feel a bit uncontrollable at first, but with adjusted game settings can work well. I only started using it, as I needed something I could quickly press back buttons for jump shots.
I dont know if you will respond But I tried the update for my controller and it didnt update correctly my controller actually didnt fully update it canceled mid update and my triggers and sticks are screwed up Ive tried everything but asking for help So Im hoping you or someone can help me out
update messed up my controller
Thanks for covering this further, I got this controller a few months ago thanks to your awesome video and breakdown, also calibrated it based on your other video as well. Just a quick question where do I get this update? I have the app installed from before but it doesn't seem to have an update, also checked the MS store where I got it from and no update there as well. Cheers for the awesome breakdowns and vids!
Hey bro you are most welcome! So I got the update through the Microsoft store on pc and Xbox just showed an update available. Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling the app?
@@thephototechy oh dam haha I need to uninstall and reinstall? Ok that's weird they should just update the app as normal, anyways, thanks so much I'm gonna try it tonight after work 🙏
@@thephototechy I tried the update again from the MS store and no updates at all for it. Strange but the app isn't any different even after I uninstalled & reintalled it
@@CliveThorpe that’s very strange indeed bro. So you only see that test page after you select the controller? I’d say definitely reach out to PowerA and see if it’s something with your unit. I remember there was an update long time ago, which I had to download a separate client for from the website, but that was not stricter by the app. Not sure if you did that as well in the past, it could be that my controller had that firmware so the software shows different options to me. If you never had that first update it might be these aren’t available for your firmware, just a theory.
I just got a Pro 3. Updating didn't work and the controller is not working -.-
What’s wrong with these controller app?? They never reset to default when I press it. How can I configure anything when I can’t reset the controller back to default in the app. Are you having these problems with the app? Sticks, remap buttons trigger tab every time I hit restore to default it don’t do anything.
definitely just saved me fifa is the only game that the super sensitive trigger is really a problem
I updated my Fusion Pro 3 and now everytime I move the Joysticks, it triggers my LT and RT:( and when I press my LT or RT, there’s no input response:(
@@Jaylensity hey have you done the calibration after the update?
@@thephototechy yeah I manually calibrated it and could see the inputs but everytime I moved my joysticks to the top right, it triggers my LT and RT but pressing the triggers themselves does nothing
@@Jaylensity I take it this happens with adjusting the minimum deadzones for triggers as well? Very strange as the triggers are Hall effect and sticks are potentiometer. I’ve successfully calibrated mine through the software and the forced manual calibration method a good few times. Can you try calibrating controller and keeping the triggers lock engaged to the second place and not fully unlocked, see if that register changes or disappear after calibrating like this.
@@thephototechy so I ended up just returning it and getting another one! It works fine out the box! Will not be updating it again😭💀
I just got the controller and I'm having this problem right out of the box...hopefully the update fixes my brand new controller 😅
Awesome video, will you be covering the FLYDIGI APEX 4?
So my power flickered and interrupted the firmware update, and now my back buttons are bricked (mapping button and all). Any clue what to do?
As soon as I did the firmware update it caused my controller to not work the buttons just do what they want to do and I have no idea how to bring up the back buttons.
Hey, how are you? What's up?
Im currently working on xp camos in cod and warzone camos, im ready for bo6
Looks like you have a big hand too, is the fusion pro 3 back buttons still comfortable for you? I watched your review multiple times
Hey man so good to hear from you, the back buttons do challenge me on this controller, specially the top left one. I really have to focus as to not accidentally press that one. Still I can use the back buttons really well, it that twitchy aim response can be a hurdle. If they can somehow give us a proper raw output with not so extracted diagonals, then this one makes a lot of sense.
My combination of button stopped working after update..i.e i had lb+rb press simultaneously mapped to one of the back button. It stopped working after update. Did anyone have same issue and have a fix.
Currently having the same issue lb and rb being activated simultaneously also left and right sticks stuck in the left direction when not being touched
What’s the correct way to calibrate? Through app or manual?
Very good video 👌🏼...My question is if the GamerSir G7se is still better?
Hey if 2 back buttons are enough for you, then for me 100% yes. G7se to aim with on Xbox with 1000hz os definitely a lot more predictable and manageable than this one. I only started using this, so I could bunny hop with 4 back buttons like a lot of others in my lobbies 😂. For jumping like crazy, the back buttons on this one work well. If PowerA changes the aim output to true raw, this potentially could be the go to 4 back buttons controller for me.
Great video. Do you have a video that covers how to do this through the PowerA Xbox app?
I need your advice please, I have Dualsense Edge but I need a controller with 4 Back Buttons, I'm playing Apex Legends, Call of Duty & some other FPS games on PS5. Which one of this controllers you can recommend it to me to buy it now?
- 1) Nacon REVOLUTION Pro 5
- 2) Victrix BFG Pro.
I watched your videos about the Razer Wolverine v2 Pro & I trusted your words & I didn't put it on the list. I bought the Dualsense Edge because I suffer from stick drift & I bought for about 4 new controllers since PS5 released but now i need 4 back buttons. But also I don't want to after 6 or 8 months to buy another one.
Waiting for your response. Thanks. Wish you a good luck.
Hey bro, so the issue with the wolverine v2 pro is with BFG and Nacon as well. I’ve tested them both against edge and they just don’t compare to the aiming performance of edge. The controllers are great on their own, but Sony has made it so their own controller performs the best on PS5. The difference is minor and depending on you skill and play style, you can easily get used to them, but for me edge is the only one for PS5, even though I love the Xbox style controllers.
Still if you need a controller with 4 back buttons, I’d suggest looking at something like a modified dualsense with 4 back buttons.
Between the BFG and Nacon, I’d highly recommend waiting for the BFG Hall effect module release and see how that performs, as that can potentially be a long term solution for stick drift, and might perform better than Revolution 5 pro on PS5.
@@thephototechy Thanks bro for your reply, I really appreciate it.
Sorry for disturbing you, Can you tell me please what is the brand name that they modified dualsense with 4 back buttons? So I can buy it now till BFG Hall effect release.
I was trying to search and buy Scuf Reflex FPS but I couldn't find it in the country that I live in it now, and they don't shipping it to this country. Waiting for your reply. Thanks again and sorry for disturbing you.
@@djvalentinoz bro I myself is drooling all over scuff reflex too 😂. There are other ones like Aim and Hex. Also there is a DIY kit called rise remap4 by extreme rate, which one can install themselves on a standard dualsense. I’ve done that to one of my controllers and it does work well, but I’ve started noticing some issues with it, might need to make a video on it as well.
Hey PhotoTechy. When do you have Flydigi Apex 4 review planned to be out?
Hey bro currently not on a gaming pc, but hoping to get one this summer.
Nice vid, I'm searching for a decent budget controller and I'm left with the new gamesir kaleid and the g7se , which one would you recommend?
Kaleid all the way
@Teilzeit02 agreed , I was skeptical because it's their newest controller but it's what I was looking for in the g7 se ;clicking buttons, black face plate some lighting .
Hey G7se I can recommend with no issues, Kalied I think I’ll be getting this weekend as the shape might be better for me. Hopefully will get a review out soon.
I have both. Kaleid is better for larger hands and has mouse click face buttons, but is not 1000hz on console yet.
I have both. Kaleid is better for larger bands and face buttons are mouse clicks, but it's not 1000hz on console yet.
Oh wow i didnt know this controller had an app!
Hey it used to be very basic at launch, but at some point they added a decent amount of functionality to it, hopefully they can add a custom response curve to tame that aiming output a bit.
Hello, can you please check if these new features like dead zone and remap are also available for other powera controllers like advantage or spectra infinity?
@@tomato5678 hey bro I wish I could but I dont have the advantage and spectra anymore. I do remember the enhanced being able to do a calibration through software when even the fusion pro 3 couldn’t.
can you do a review on the new Gamesir Kaleid and Kaleid Flux and compare it to the G7 SE pls?
Hey I think I’ll get the Kaleid today or tomorrow. The shape looks better to me, definitely will get the review out soon.
@@thephototechy looking foward to it!
how do you get the remap buttons option? i only have the test/calibrate
not sure why, but when i try downloading the update it isn't updating .
Hello! Will you be covering Flydigi VADER 3 PRO?
Hey danke für dein Video. Ich würde den auch gerne testen. Ich habe Zuhause den Scuf Invision Pro und muss sagen das der Kontroller mehr AIM assist hat als alle anderen auf PC in CoD. Ich weiss nicht warum das so ist aber es ist echt bemerkbar für mich. Es kann aber auch sein das es ein Placebo Effekt ist. Aber ich fühle es irgendwie. Ich warte nur darauf bis du den Kontroller auch testest und deine Meinung dazu.
Hey yes once I can get a gaming pc that one is definitely on the list. I've just discovered how bad xbox is against pc, a video on this is coming in a few days. Honestly its made me a bit upset as I always thought pc only had better graphics, but the reality is a lot different. It just doesn't make sense to play on xbox, specially multiplayer games where crossplay is forced.
Anyone has success setting it for EA FC24. Could you please share .
i just updated my power a fusion pro 3 wired and it fucked up my deadzoen and aiming.. smfh
@@Wagerwhizz hey have you done a calibration after the update? Also check that you reach the max register very close to the thumbstick gate.
Hey the app caused my fusion pro 3 to break
same.. did u find a fix? the fix it showed me doesnt work
@@ott_cyntixx same !! this was a warranty replacement for my pro 2 and they sent me a pro 3 fast, unfortunately idk if it's a bad refurbished unit or what but it had terrible drift (all over the screen).
tried the app and also the compatibility app per customer support and it won't even let me calibrate and I cant reset it seems either. I've been dealing with support for over a week and pretty sure they aren't going to do anything else about it. It could have been damaged in shipping? I wish they would just let me go get one from the store instead of sending me in troubleshooting circles!! I've tried on 2pcs, 1 brand new and fully updated, and 3 different boxes. Anyone happen to get a solution if not able to update??
@@jennifergarner8416 any updates? just tried to update and it messed mine up too
I just see test/calibration no other options
They really need to get rid of the built in dead zone. It’s so annoying I play 0 deadzone and it feels so stiff with this controller, compared to my power a fusion pro 2. My aim feels way more snappier and consistent. I’m on apex legends 4-3 linear no deadzone^^
Look at his most recent video. I have a little trick that I shared with him and he describes it in full. You will love this controller once you do it trust me. I play 4-3 Lin none deadzone on apex aswell
Also with the built in deadzone. If you do a software update on the PC through the powera app it will remove that built in deadzone. It just unlocks the controller. Trust me
Wait does it really? 😮 so all I need to do is update the controller on pc and it will remove the built in Dz?
Also can you send me a link to where I can update this controller windows 10? Thanks
@@VTMfps yeah name. Just look search powera on the store and you'll find it and then update through that. It's super easy. Trust me it will change the controller
Can you overclock it ?
What is the software?
yeah the hyper response fucked my shit up after updating it today i shouldn’t even have updated the firmware, now my aiming is horrible ASF. if you haven’t updated, don’t update the firmware
@@Wagerwhizz hey so the aim algorithm has stayed the same with 13% error rate figure due to the extra diagonals. My controller even before the update had the same output. Have you done a manual calibration and checked if stick output is linear and reached max register at close to physical thumbstick gate?
Hey is the a windows app, on Xbox I only see the test/calibration options even after uninstalling and reinstalling the app . Ty@@thephototechy