Gamesir G7se 1000hz removed?
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 มิ.ย. 2024
- Hey all apologies the video is a bit long but I tried showing what has changed with as much info as I could.
00:00 Intro & test method explained
03:47 1000hz USB3 cable pre update
07:31 Gamesir Cable 1000hz pre update
09:00 1000hz USB3 cable post update
12:23 Gamesir Cable 1000hz post update
15:02 Performance loss?
15:49 250hz results
17:19 My thoughts on the change
19:39 Outro
#gamesirg7se #1000hz #halleffect #procontroller - เกม
FYI I ordered a Amazon Basics USB-C to USB-A 3.1 Gen 2 Adapter Charger Cable, Fast Charger, 10Gbps High-Speed(can't add link) that actually fits the port without mods. It's 3ft but hopefully there is a longer one that is the same for ones that need it.
Thats amazing info bro, I’ll check it out for sure.
Wow I have that same cable and it fits perfectly! Sadly I can’t sit that close to my TV! Amazon doesn’t make a longer Super Speed cable. :/
@@HelveticaBold1 yeah I looked after making that comment and still not seeing one unfortunately
@@HelveticaBold1 maybe if you can find a cheap 10gbps extension cable with proper connections
@@BassThrashin sadly all of the USB extension cables are 3.0. I’ll keep looking.
Appreciate the quick and hard work on this!
You are most welcome bro!
@@thephototechy is raw mode off the normal feeling how a controller is with raw mode is my iam not good use you raw mode ? Hope you answer me
Thanks for all the work you do keeping us informed about it all @ The Photo Techy
You are most would bro!
I find this controller to be one of the very best, you hard work is much appreciated.
Thanks bro, I love the G7se as well on box. Hopefuly a 4 back button version will come out as well.
@@thephototechy In BFs I set jump to d-pad left and melee to d-pad right (I have crouch/prone on right stick) and map them to the paddles. Then I set gadget 1 to A and gadget 2 to B. Easy way to kinda mitigate the lack of 2 more paddles.
@@thephototechyany insights?
great video thank you for your hard work!
You are most welcome bro!
Bought this controller cause of you ! Best controller ever had ! I ordered 3d printed trigger stops and am waiting to be delivered to me! If the trigger stops are going to work properly, I will let you know !
Woah that’s sounds interesting, definitely share how it goes
@thephototechy I will definitely! Contacted gamesir via email and asked them if g7 se has the same triggers with t4 kaleid, and they said yes ! So i ordered 3d printed trigger stops (made for t4 kaleid) and am waiting for them !
Great video once again! Gamesir should be reaching out to you as an ambassador, one question I had was related to the high speed cable, I noticed that there are different colors that represent different speeds, is there a particular cable you would be able to recommend that would provide the highest speed? I did a bunch of research, but in the end that was inevitably confused by most of the different options, and you seem to have your head wrapped around it really well.
Hey bro you are to kind! About the cable I just tried to get which looked like it could fit the G7se and 10Gbps capable. I know there are normal usb3 ones 5Gbps as well, but unfortunately the cable didn’t fit and I had to open the controller to test. If the cable makes a difference then a usb3 5Gbps one should do too, as the ones included are only usb2 480Mbps capable. I need to do this test again and might use Gambit on Xbox and Edge on PS5. With my current tests the usb3.1 gen2 10Gbps definitely shows a more consistent result on PS5, and with G7se prior to update a bit faster result.
I may be able to make a separate device and app for such measurements to be able to get more accurate results. As soon as I finish developing my project to measure the latency of gamepad sticks using a microphone.
I noticed a difference as soon as I updated it feels a little less responsive but it feels wayyyyy more consistent for aiming now it feels like my centre point has changed and it’s so much easier to track enemies
Hey so what you describe correlates to my findings as well 👍
@@thephototechy how do i switch back to 250???/ it says use pc but im on xbox
Great video.
Can’t remember what was your frame results using high speed cable with PS5 edge on the PS5? I know the edge can run 1000hz but I’m pretty sure you can get it to do that on PS5 even if you overlock it on PC first, is it 250 or 500 on PS5? Something about the PS5 limiting the usb out to 250hz or something?
Have you tried using a USB C 4.0 Gen 3x2 cable ? Or what about a 3.2 Gen 2 cable or a 3.2 Gen 2x2 cable? It’s even higher speed then the cable you are using
Hey so the cable gave edge more 7 frames on ps5 than the standard cable did. The difference I believe is more consistency, it’s something I noticed whilst testing the wolverine V2 pro before I returned it.
Yeah bro, you really god it figured out. Nice video. ✅
I could be wrong but it kinda looked like my middle point of the sticks centered better after the update. It weird I know but it really feels that way
Hello there 😊 what kind of cable is the stock Gamesir SE Cable? I mean, if i buy a usb 3.2 with 10gb/s, is there a markable difference? By the way in point of fitting, the UGREEN Usb c cables fitting well on Gamesir 🎉
I’m so disappointed in Microsoft feeling like they are losing sales because a 45 dollar controller runs better than their 250 controller.
I do notice that my controller feels really fast like Gamesir set them to 1000hz after update. But I’m still gonna go 1000hz with headphone jack when it comes out on PC. For my Xbox.
Hey yes it’ll be interesting to see how the new controller firmware will perform.
Детальнейший разбор. Как всегда подробно и круто
Thanks bro really appreciate the support!
Респект за проделанную работу😊
Do you think it’s still worth it to purchase? I’ve been considering but not sure now
Thanks for the work on this. Question though, is there any performance difference between the SE and normal G7?
That’s definitely a video I need to make specially with 1000hz, coz the G7 might take the throne as the fastest one on Xbox, but I need to do thorough testing on it.
@@thephototechy okay cool
Great vid! Any idea why the 1000hz is only W11 feature?
Also, what is the frame difference of 500hz vs 1000hz with the original cable?
Does the 1000hz induce drift or centering or any other issues/bugs?
Thanks!
Hey so personally when I used the 500 on Xbox it didn’t feel that much different to me, so I’ve only tested the 1000 vs 250 every time. There supposed to be a 1000hz for windows 10 coming with the next firmware, apparently it was something agreed to have it removed from Xbox but full features on pc, so that should work without a script according to their discord post.
I haven’t had any issues of extra drift with 1000hz, I did encounter 1 bug some time ago where if nexus had any deadzones applied, the stick would get stuck out even though it’s physically centred, this didn’t happen with 0 deadzones in nexus.
I have w10 and can get 1000 on pc
Yo phototechy, quick question. If I plug my controller into my brothers pc (windows 11) and turn on 1000hz, when i plug it back into my pc will it stay as 1000hz or switch back to my settings?
Hey so the profile will stay how you set up last, even when you open your own nexus it’ll read the controllers info and show you 1000hz. Now that script they have for windows 11 is machine specific and don’t transfer through controller I believe. They’ve mentioned on their discord a proper 1000hz is coming in the next controller firmware for windows 10 as well, so let’s see how that’ll behave.
@@thephototechy Thanks
@@da_veed179 you are most welcome bro! Plz share what you think of the performance after the update, definitely be good to know what pc feels like.
@@thephototechy i will. Can only play weekends tho 😅
do you know if gamesir plan to release the 1000hz to windows 10? or is it confirmed that 1000hz is only available on windows 11?
As of now based off everything I’ve seen 1000z hz is only available on windows 11
I've been using the g7 se for a while and its pretty good for the price. Though how does it compare to a first party controllers like the xbox one and ps4 controllers? Specifically for fps games. I know they have potentiometer sticks but my problem with the g7 se is the lack of stick tension and durability of the spring, sure it doesn't drift if you reset it to the default position but the wiggle feels like your stick is too sensitive and it drifts even if you don't touch it unless you intentionally make it stay at the center.
Hey so the light tension to me feels like a design choice. It definitely feels that the HE sticks are slightly slower at that initial response. My unit has close to 180-200 hours on it and the most register at rest without deadzones is 2-4%, this is with a really good centre point. I’ve made a video on the Ksilver sticks and the materials used, the spring used is definitely a little bit smaller than the alps, but seeing the inside of the stick did impress me.
@@thephototechy Awesome, will check your video on the ksliver later. Thanks.
Can you, my friend, make a video to find out the highest poling rate and latency on ds4 that can be obtained on the nacon 5 pro while doing an over clock test on the 3 profiles, PC and PS4&5 ?
Only had mine 6 months and already has crazy stick drift. Thought it was a great deal at first but idk.
Hey bro what sort of register you see at rest? Also have you tried setting the centre point to distribute the drift making the issue much more manageable?
Thanks
Hey you are most welcome bro! And thanks for all the support, really appreciated.
So if you had 1000 before the update i should still be good? I’ve downloaded the update but don’t notice any differences. So it should still be 1000hz right
Hey yes if the profile is showing the message you need to connect to pc for 250hz,you are still ok.
@@thephototechymines just took away the option to change it back 2 days so I’m stuck on 1000 hz
You think they will be bringing it back to Xbox? Bc some people don’t have a PC.
Unfortunately tests like this are all invalid. There are just too many inconsistencies in the testing methodology to be able to trust the result.
1) Even with a 240Hz camera there is still too much time between frames too tell when the stick actually begins moving.
2) Having ANY deadzone at all means even with a 1000000000 FPS camera it would be impossible to know when you truly broke past the deadzone, and thus when to start counting from.
3) Using ANY camera to record your screen skews your results due to: A - monitor input latency. B - Panel pixel response times
Ideally what we need to do in order to get any valid results is create a new test, with
- ZERO deadzone.
- Mechanical (robootic) means of moving the stick in and exact direction for an exact amount of time. (for consistency and repeatability)
- A way to detect the INSTANT the stick begins moving and display it immediately.
- A zero input delay capture card (or one with a perfectly measured and consistent input latency)
Then overlaying all the footage from the capture card and stick movement detection together with transparency, then measuring the deviation. If everything is the same all the footage will be perfectly in sync all the way, if not you will see an afterimage effect. This is the ONLY way to get airtight result that satisfy the scientific method.
Hey, so if im in PC, using windows 10, which settings do i need to use? 250hz? 500hz? 1000hz? no raw? raw? please help :D I play Apex, MW and The Finals
What’s your favorite Xbox controller so far in terms of response time and latency?? I have the stealth ultra but idk, i just wanna know what’s the best in your opinion.
Stealth Ultra actually performs really well when wired. I have a video planned with a head to head of stealth and G7se for aiming. For 4 back buttons Stealth ultra and EswapX are my go to on Xbox, 2 back buttons G7se and Gambit.
@@thephototechy what do you feel is your best go to tho for just latency? Like #1, or would you say all are pretty good and it’s just preference
@@ThatYankeeFann so for the few tests I’ve done, G7,G7se and Gambit show the best results. Now having the quickest result is good but having a consistent result makes it much better in experience. EswapX showed a bit slower response but very consistent and actually feels great. 250hz wired seems to be very good on Xbox, as Gambit is only 250hz but has a dual core where audio is handled separately. G7se in 250hz is slower than others, it’s something I mentioned in my first ever review of the controller, but didn’t have a way to do this type of test back then. So many people said that it was my controller as they don’t feel no delay, man I wish I was able to do this on the launch, as I truly believe the controller was definitely slower then to what it is now in 250hz. I think this type of test is best for controllers where we feel there is a problem, like I showed with the stealth ultra in wireless with a headset plugged in.
Butt g7se have the 1000 hz best feeling and aiming ingame for me i have my stealth back to the.box and use my g7se with extreme sticks on it its perfect so
Does this controller require a PC to configure the latency or can it be done through the Xbox App??
What sticks are those, scuf?
Would be sick if you could test the Scuf envision pro controller, please
Witch other cable can in the g7se ?
How come on Xbox you can’t do any changes to 1000 hrtz or even 500. Doesn’t give an option on the Xbox app
What kind of cable are you using? I would like to try a high speed cable on the Edge.
What does the cable have to do with removing feature from Xbox. You’re saying with a cable you can have 1000hz again??
I’m lost.
Hey so I was trying to test if the cable made a difference and the same day the software update came out. What I found after checking the results is the cable could make a difference prior to the update, but after the update we still have the 1000hz performance of the normal cable, but we seems to have lost that extra performance from a high speed cable that I saw on my results.
So is the cable it comes with not fully optimized to produce the best experience? I should buy another one?
it used to but after the update it doesn’t do as much apparently
I would love to see a breakdown with this controller on MLB the show 24 for xbox or show me how I could do it? I see the performance boost when I play but want to show my viewers on tiktok that I'm not BS. I feel like when I press A to swing its happening faster then any other controller.
Hey bro, I believe that’s on gamepass if not mistaken? I can take a look at it after the Xdefiant play test. Is there a test range in there? Also I might need more info from you so plz dm me on insta if possible.
@@thephototechyyes please do the MLB the show on Xbox there is a lot of players that have these questions because it is a very competitive game as well! I just received my OG G7 today for the game.
@@Soloman731I’m a World Series player, and always top 50 in every event. I started using this about half a year ago. Even when this controller was 250 hz it was insane. It is the best possible controller to have for mlb the show. You are at a HUGE advantage
@@Baseball1786 hey are you playing on Xbox as well?
@@Baseball1786 I have noticed a huge difference just today in the first time playing with it. I bought the the OG G7 and I love it!
I’ve run some tests this week with 500hz and 1000hz and seams that something has changed. I’m getting faster polling rates on 500hz than 1000hz with the default usb cable.
I don’t get the option to change the Hz! I watched a video on where it should appear on the App but it doesn’t appear for me. Do i have to do something for it to pop up??
@@KingAchilles-ce7hoYou have to do it on your PC, the option was removed from xbox app only. If you’re not seeing the option on PC too, maybe you’ll need to update your gamesir app.
please i need an immediate answer. Is it possible to map the thumstick buttons (LSB and RSB) to the back buttons ?
Hey yes you can map them to back buttons, and if needed you can change the stick buttons to a different input as well, and the back will still do the stick input and stick will do whatever you set to. You can also disable the stick button if needed and still keep it mapped to back
@@thephototechy thanx. I have ordered them
Did the usb 3.1 enable the 3.5 ?
So do you need a PC to get 1000 hz performance? Or do you still get it even if you only have an Xbox?
Can't be changed on the Xbox App, Microsoft agreement doesn't allow it. If you use a Windows PC easy to change but if you have a Mac use Parallels trial for VirtualBox.
Sorry im very confused. I played with 1000z on xbox but the option is gone. So do i need to make it 1000zhz on laptop for one profile and it will transfer over to xbox.
Hey yes you can do that, but if you had 1000hz already set then it’s still there and will need a pc to change it back to 250.
Has anyone noticed that in the nexus app up on the y axis reads as -100% instead of 100???
Hey I'm getting stick drift when I have it on 1000hz for pc, I try changing different settings on the sticks and so far nothing has work yet. I also did a calibration and no difference, do you have any solutions on getting it fixed?
Hey bro how much register you see at rest with 0 deadzones in nexus? Also have you adjusted the centre point correctly whilst doing the manual calibration? Having all the drift in one direction will need larger in game deadzones to avoid, one near feature of G7se is the ability to adjust centre point, which can distribute the drift equally so a much lower deadzone can be used. I’ve made a video on the Ksilver sticks and the spring is something that lose some tension, but I believe that’s by design. I do have a video showing how to adjust the centre point on my channel “G7se stick drift fix” hope that helps.
@@thephototechy I'm not to sure but the drift gets all over the place. I tried getting the center point on the app but it closes when I do the calibration. I been using the Rainbow Pro 2 and it comes with 1000hz out of the box wired and it feels pretty responsive so far. I'm liking it a bit more than the g7 se cause it has 4 paddles and trigger locks
@@alucard4602 hey bro try and do the manual calibration without the app, I’ve noticed the calibration though app can be finicky at times, hence I shows the manual calibration in my video.
So when you using pc app to change polling rate on controller this still will work and save on controller you can change for 250hz to 500hz and to 1000hz and this still will work on Xbox yes ?
Hey yes still working on xbox after using a pc to change, I've tested and confirmed it. but for whatever reason there was an advantage to be had with a usb3 cable before which seems to not be there now.
@@thephototechyok so I can change to 250hz if I like to use my headset on controller and change again on pc app to 1000hz and this will work like that still ok so this option only was removed from Xbox app correct brother
Hello, I am suffering from the problem of the GameSir LED application not recognizing the control! Is it a general problem after the update or not? What is the solution, thanks in advance
Hey do you mean Nexus doesn’t recognise the controller on pc? Has not happened once to me some time ago, was able to fix it by uninstalling the controller driver from device and printers, then reconnecting the controller.
@@thephototechy
I did these steps, and even deleted the GameSir application and reinstalled it again, but the problem was not solved. It seems that the problem is from my computer.
@@Al_Jazari ah bro that’s a shame. I remember this happened to me but luckily all I had to do was uninstall gamesir G7 and G7se controllers from device and printer.l also tried it from device manager as well whilst the controller was connected, it shoes as Xbox controller there, after that device and printer.
Is 1000Hz still working properly on Windows 11 PC?
What high speed cable are you using?
Hey I just used the one linked below, but it doesn’t fit the G7se’s port so I had to open the controller for tests.
LDLrui 3m USB-A to USB-C Data... www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B09HXKSZ5B?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
I need help... im wanting to buy dts x on xbox but since i cant use my headphones in the g7 se i have to use my monitor headphone port..
Will dts x still work?
Hey you should be able to set the hdmi audio out as the headset format, this’ll send the DTS signal to hdmi, it’s something I use with HDMI audio extractor all the time.
Hey question when I’m recalibrating the controller should I have my kontrol freaks on or should I take them off?
Doesn't matter with kf. Shouldn't have precision rings on.
Hey so calibration need to have a good centre point so definitely take them off.
@@thephototechy ok thx also is there any point to even using the 1000hz option on Xbox anymore?
@@reeves3030 hey bro so far the improvements made in this mode are there for sure.
If they did, I just won’t update the controller and leave it in the 1000 Hz mode 💫
Hey. I just bought this controller and everything is fine until I enable the 1000hz polling rate then I get bad stick drift and stuck left and right triggers? Any idea why is that and how could I fix it? Thanks.
Hey what you describe sounds fimiliar to an issue I encountered where the stick would be not centred even when it was. I was able to avoid this by disabling any deadzones in nexus app, so keep sticks to 0-100 and use in game deadzones. Also do the manual calibration on the controller so the sticks and triggers are calibrated properly.
@@thephototechy thanks I'll give it a try. So do not calibrate it in the nexus app, correct?
So basically if im still on the previous firmware with a 3.1 cable and want that 6 frame response I shouldn’t update right?
Hey unfortunately I wasn’t able to double confirm this as I updated,but according to my results that day definitely looks to be the case. I need to do this test again and will be adding other controllers as well. For now I’d say don’t update as I don’t see anything new added. There is an update today which I still need to check what’s changed.
@@thephototechy Great! I’ll keep the current firmware but I’ll be on the lookout, thanks!
Are they fix this problem any time soon
how long have you had this controller?
pre ordered mine before launch and got it on release I believe August 2023. have more than 160-170 hours on it now.
I mean the update only comes out on PC because nothing comes out in the app on my console, it will be counterproductive if you have the update. I currently have the version 6.30 or how do I update directly from Xbox greetings friend great information
Yea so this update is not for the controller and is nexus only currently. All this has done is taken the 1000hz toggle away from nexus on Xbox. The firmware for controller should be out soon I believe. Will have to see if that changes anything.
@@thephototechy ok thanks brother
Is it normal for the gamesir g7 se light indicator to on off but its still working?
Hmm have you tried a manual calibration and see if the light goes solid afterwards?
@@thephototechy ohh I just tried that and it works thank you!!
@@The1onlytoConquer you are most welcome bro!
Hi I just bought this controller do you recommend me updating the controller?
Hey if you have access to a pc and want to use the 1000hz then yes. Enabling the 1000hz on pc will bring it to xbox as well, but the 3.5mm port will be disabled in the 1000hz profile.
@@thephototechy hi is this controller overclockable on 1000hz with windows 10 now?
@@RevivedGamerHD hey so far it only works like a 500hz controller for me, that promised update is not out yet I believe. I do need to check if there’s an update on nexus for it.
So now i can't talk to people in game chat on xbox? That's some bull.
Btw, is there any difference in input lag between the front USB and rear ports on Xbox Series X?
Hey that’s interesting coz someone else mentioned this as well. I’ve always connected the controller to the front port, I think need to do a test comparing the front to the back ones.
@@thephototechy I do as well connect it to the front port but some people use rear ports because their front port is broken.
hey did u ever do the test?@@thephototechy
É muito vantajoso usar os 1000hz comparados aos 250hz ou a diferença é mínima?
Hey the controller feels more responsive and one could even say smooth, it’s just a ticking thing where I feel things get a little bit easier in 1000hz.
Did you find out if different usb cables help?
Hey so it seems they sorta did with G7se but I need to do multiple tests and use other controllers as well
If I change it to 1000hz on pc and then play it on xbox, am I getting 1000hz on xbox?
Can you review Flydigi Apex 4? It's supposed to be the best new Controller out on the market
Hey currently only on consoles, hopefully once I have a gaming pc I’ll definitely going to be checking that one out.
@@thephototechy It works on consoles as well, both of them.
@@GeorgianPranks is it an adapter solution? I haven’t used any adopter solutions yet
@@thephototechy Nop, you can just plug it in and play. Emulator is built in the system, you can swap emulator modes on the controller screen (It has a controller screen like turtle beaches). You just need to plug controller to any power source to change mode.
It even emulates ps5
Hello, I haven't used the controller for a while. But I always had it set to 1000Hz (Xbox Series X). Since the last update, I can no longer see how many Hz it is running at. It just says: "Please use the PC to switch the report rate to 250Hz". How many Hz is the controller running at now? Does anyone know?
Hey that’s your 1000hz profile, it’s set to 1000 or 500 whatever you had it set to before. If you need to change it you’ll need to connect to a pc to do that now.
@@thephototechy Thank you for the quick info👍🏻 I ordered the new Kaleid controller for the Xbox from gamesir today, hopefully it will also work with the set 1000Hz🙏🏻 I absolutely don't understand why this cool option was removed from the app!? I also have an Elite 2 controller and I have to say that the G7SE is much better! Best wishes from Germany.
@@lllSP4C3FR0Glll I know bro, why Microsoft asked gamesir to remove it is beyond me. Man I’m jealous you got the Kalied 😂 I haven’t ordered it yet and not too sure on getting one.
@@thephototechy Yes, I just ordered it today. I can hardly wait until I get it. There are even 2 different versions. Especially for the Xbox. There was also a 10% discount code: HONEY10OFF
Do you know if there going to put the 1000hz toggle back on the Xbox nexus app??
Don’t think so bro, I have a feeling the feature might even be taken away completely.
@@thephototechy well that sucks thanks tho
yo i updated mine yesterday but i think im still 1000hz? cuz it says to use pc to switch to 250hz... im on xbox also. thoughts?
Hey yes that’s still 1000hz and I’ve tested it as well. If you do need the 250hz you’ll need to connect to a pc to do that.
@@thephototechyFor the Xbox, in fps games which is better, 1000hz or 250hz?
@@denisjunqueira23091000hz. the higher the hz, the more faster it is
Question!!!!! Name of the highest speed cable !!! Please I need buy one 😢
Hey bro the one linked below is what I bought, but it doesn’t fit G7se. I’ve been using it with my stealth ultra and edge on ps5, also there are cables capable of even more bandwidth now. I just wanted to try something that’s quicker than the usb2 ones that come with the controllers.
amzn.eu/d/1tmsKv1
If the nexus app has updated on xbox but I haven't opened the the app up on there is it still 1000hz?
Hey so if you had 1000hz set already and even the app updates, you’ll still have 1000hz on the profile you had it set on. Currently that’s how it is but it might happen that Microsoft completely remove this, hopefully not.
Okay mate thankyou for the quick reply!
so can we no longer use 1000 hz on xbox ? im confused, i just got my gamesir g7se and i was configuring it and i can see the 1000 hz option anywere? what does this mean ? how do i activate 1000 hz
1000hz option has been removed from Xbox nexus software. You can enable it from a pc using the nexus software and it stores on the controller. Right now that’s the workaround but for how long we don’t know.
@@thephototechy thank you so much for your reply, i was feeling so heart broken i left a 1 star review on the nexus app saying the only reason i got the controller was for 1000 hz and then they removed hahaha anyways, currently installing paralles on my mac cause figured windows was the only way of activating 1000hz :v
Is it just as easy as downloading nexus on windows and activating it or is it more complicated than that?
@@thephototechy a little update on this for everyone parallels worked great and got to activate the 1000 hz and wow, im speechless, i had been playing on a power a fusion pro and kept feeling lots of delay but i wasn't sure if it was just me being bad at the game( warzone) this controller feels like going from 20 fps to 120 fps its crazy, it almost feels like i have a mouse on my thumb, flicking from target to target without aim assist feels even better than it felt on the power a with aim assist on!
for anyone who is looking into getting this controller, highly recommended, build quality is impressive for the price as well even better than i expected knowing this from comments i had seen and reviews
@@UnOmelette where do I go to overclock it to 1000 on pc? Is there an app on PC!??
If I had set a 1000Hz before the update on the Xbox do I have to change it on the PC?
Hey so the profile you had the 1000hz set to will still be 1000, but if you want to change it back to 250, you’ll need to connect to a pc currently. Not sure if an update to revert it on Xbox will be out soon.
@@thephototechy thank you so much, also for the speed of response!!
There is a problem with the microphone. I cannot speak. Is there a solution?
Hey in 1000hz you mean? The headphone jack is disabled when 1000hz is active.
@@thephototechy Not at 1000 Hz, but the 1000 Hz does not appear to me in normal mode
is the performance difference between 250hz and 1000hz noticeable in game?
For a normal human not really but in competitive gaming it's noticeable.
It sucks MS keep spamming them to remove the modes.
I’m on Nexus 1.3.2 and says I can switch to 250Hz on Pc. So I assume I still have 1000Hz on XsX?
Yes that profile has 1000hz, so if you want to change it then you’ll need a pc to do that. That’s exactly what I tested and it’s still the same for sure.
@@thephototechy Great thank you! Now i want to try a USB 3.1 cable just need to find one that fits if possible. Are you testing the high speed USB on the Edge?
@@HelveticaBold1 I’ve even using the high speed on edge mainly, and felt it better hence tried to check on G7se. For the cable video I’m going to test the edge and thinking of G7 and Gambit on Xbox.
@@thephototechy great, I just purchased a super speed USB C cable for my edge. 6ft cable isn’t cheap! :)
I have noticed something is wrong my accuracy has dropped a lot for several weeks now. Xbox series x
Hey is that in 1000hz? Also have you checked the sticks calibration is on point?
So do you recommend using a different cable than the one that came with the controller?
Hey bro so prior to the update there’s a clear advantage using a usb3.1 gen2 cable, but whatever the update has done it seems that advantage is not their anymore. I’m going to test this cable result on different controllers for a separate video.
@@thephototechy Looking forward to the next video. Yesterday I started using the Dual Sense Edge with a 5gbps cable and it does indeed feel more smooth to me than stock cable. Ordered a 20gbps to try with the PS5 Slim USB C ports today. Thanks for your research.
So my G7 Se just came in yesterday, it came with v6.20. Should I do the update? I’m still new to this…
Woah bro that’s a really old firmware. That one won’t allow for 1000hz I believe. Are you on Xbox or pc? If on Xbox do you have an access to a pc?
@@thephototechy I’m on Xbox, I personally don’t have one but I can get my sister to let me borrow her laptop. What do you recommend?
@@buky6825 hey so personally I think the update is definitely beneficial, as the only thing the old firmware had, was how the max stick deadzone worked a bit different. If you reduced it from 100 it would just stop the register to whatever number you chose and won’t register a 100% at a lower stick push like it is now.
I’d say get the nexus on a pc and update. Make one profile with 1000hz so you can try and see how you feel about it compared to 250hz, as audio won’t work in 1000hz, so if you need the audio then make sure you have a profile set to 250 on the controller.
Get the nexus on your Xbox but it won’t allow you to change the report rate, so that 1000hz you set on the pc will need to be changed in the pc. The app is useful to make changes so it’s sorta needed if you ever want to make any changes to sticks deadzones and trigger deadzones. Personally I’d recommend making the sticks deadzones to 0-100 and use in game deadzones to avoid drift if you have any. Triggers up to you how you want to setup.
@@thephototechy thank you 🙏🏽 ima give it a try. I do need audio, cuz my wireless headset mic just stopped working so I use a wired one now so that I can use a mic. But I can still use my wireless to hear stuff. Just a side note for anybody reading, the audio that comes out of the G7 se headphone jack isn’t as good as a regular Xbox controller. The Xbox controller sounds way better. The g7 se sounds a little funny. You think it’s a software thing?
@@buky6825 hey so I’m my experience the best audio is from the elite series 2, a lot third party controllers can feel off. It does get better with more expensive controllers but elite 2 is definitely the best.
I bought this controller to use on the console, I read on their official discord that probably in the future you can use 1000Hz and the audio output at the same time, but only for PC, fortunately I have automatic updates disabled on my console so I will probably never update the app or the controller, the only feature I was really interested in was being able to use the 1000Hz and the audio output at the same time, but I don't think that will happen 😔
Why not just buy a pair of wireless headphones that’s what I did.
You can still change this on pc app to 1000hz but no on Xbox app any more only that what I understand
So bro the 1000hz is still on the controller but we can't change it on the xbox app?
Can't be changed on the Xbox App, Microsoft agreement doesn't allow it. If you use a Windows PC easy to change but if you have a Mac use Parallels trial for VirtualBox.
What a joke why introduce 1000hz on controller then make it so you have to go on pc to chenge it lol
My friend just got controller and can't get 1000hz as he doesn't have a pc I feel guilty for recommending controller now 😅
@@ryanlcgaming8010 It was fine but it's only now Microsoft pulled the pin on allowing it. It's annoying
@@ryanlcgaming8010 Surely they know someone with a PC it takes like 15 seconds to change it over. Might be possible with the Android app and a USB-C to USB-C cable but I don't have that cable to test.
My first question is
Is 1000hz removed?
My second question is
On pc which is best 1000hz or 250 hz?
Hey it’s removed from the nexus app on Xbox, but can be stored to a profile on the controller. The performance improvement can be seen by my tests after the update. I’ve never used a 1000hz on pc, also it might be the 1000hz on Xbox is the max improvement the controller can have with console limitations, and the true pc 1000hz might be a lot better than what it’s on console.
@@thephototechy thanks,bro
Are you testing it on the Xbox or the pc? There are people that swear that Xbox only takes input every 250hz, it doesn't feel like that for me.
Also why did you use a game and not a test app? I feel it easier to see if there is stick movement on the app than there.
Yea so I’m on Xbox consoles only and used the seriesx for my tests. I also thought Xbox could only accept 250hz and that might still be true, but the fact is G7se shows clear improvement with 1000hz on Xbox. I’ve covered the 1000hz a couple of times, in fact I came up with this screen recording test due to people saying there is no difference and what I felt with 1000hz on Xbox was a placebo, this was when it was first released late last year.
Now the improvements felt by me and a lot of others with 1000hz and as shown by my tests, could be a result of xbox actually taking 1000hz with Gamesir’s work around, or it could simply be the reason that there is no audio processing going on the device, it’s something I’ve often thought about but can’t test until I have my own gaming pc and conduct tests with a true 1000hz working. My other tests of dual sense edge on ps5 which is also a 1000hz shows same performance but that’s a ps5 and this is seriesx so I don’t want to compare the two.Another good point of 1000hz working on Xbox is the fact Gamesir was asked by Microsoftto remove it, due to unfair competitive advantage, this is according to their discord post so it might actually be working.
Using other apps on Xbox for tests could be a good solution but I base my reviews and thoughts on game performance, so testing in cod is the best way I can judge, coz using edge browser on Xbox I’m not sure will show the true latency results, as I’ve used some browser based mouse latency tests and the results just didn’t line up. But currently my channel is based on console testing so for pc results I believe other channels will have way better info than me.
@@thephototechythanks a lot, that's a solid way of thinking and it makes a lot of sense.
Puede ser que xbox este haciendo lo mismo que sony?
Does anyone have a weird experience where a quick snap is really inaccurate or flinch is really bad? I just put in a few hours with this controller but everytime someone starts shooting at me my flinch is absurd, where with the same guns and my regular controller this was not an issue. Definitely could be a skill issue but just asking
Found my own answer. I put deadzone settings to 1 and that was the entire issue. Beamed like a hacker the next game 😂.
Hey I don’t think it’s a skill issue. When I first got this one I felt that difference too. If your other controller was a normal potentiometer sticks one, then you’ll definitely need to find new sensitivity settings. There are other things to consider as well if you are using the deadzones applied in the nexus software, I’d recommend disabling the ones in the app and use in game deadzones if needed. The feel of the HE sticks is different for sure bro, so will need some adjustment and finding the right settings.
@@thephototechyyeah I listed to icamanisaac and he had me put things to a specific setting and that was the main issue. I raised some of the dz settings from 1 to 4 and now its VERY smooth. Also thank you for what you do.
so after the update, to play with 1000hz with Xbox. what i have to do?
Hey nexus on Xbox won’t have the option for the 1000hz toggle anymore, but the pc version can set this and saves on the controller, which then improves the performance on Xbox.
@@thephototechy I thought it was the app that controlled 1000hz & if you changed platforms, you had to set it again in the app on the platform you were on?
@@hessmo hey once set on the app and even if you move to a different pc, the nexus will read what’s on the controller and show the settings saved on the controller. I actually like this feature so changing machines don’t change your preferred stick and trigger settings, and same for report rate as well.
@@thephototechy Sounds absolutely fantastic! Got a little worried there for a while. Removed automatic update in the app as soon as I saw the video. I think Microsoft's response to the whole thing is very bad. We as consumers have to ourselves be able to choose whether we want to use that mode or not. Not everyone plays multiplayer games either. @xbox @ Microsoft, if you're reading this. Let us choose for ourselves! Just a shame for anyone else thinking of buying a G7 & realizing that you can't set 1000hz in the app anymore.
@@hessmo I know exactly what you mean, the issue on Microsoft side seems to be all the other third party controllers, who haven’t figured out a way for this, as Microsoft permits 4ms max. When I do mutually heard about the 1000hz I actually thought it’d be pc only thing, but to my surprise it made a difference on Xbox as well. According to Gamesir discord post, they’ve been asked by Microsoft to remove this, and I have a feeling that other manufacturers might have raised their concerns about this. There was a time I thought Microsoft was actually allowing the 1000hz on Xbox coz of dualsens edge being 1000hz on PS5, but in reality it’s something Gamesir managed to do. I have a feeling that we’ll be losing this all together at some point and not sure what this means for future controllers. I do wish Microsoft allow for this feature but then we’ll have so many controllers on the market already that are locked at 250hz and Microsoft’s own controllers to 125hz. I’ve been on Xbox platform since the original Xbox and I’ve loved all of them, even Xbox one which I got on launch night 😂. Right now I feel like making the PS5 my main console coz the forced crossplay on Xbox is unfair anyways. Difficult situation for sure.
What size controlfreaks works on this controller?
Playstation one fit perfect
or u can swap to xbox sticks
Heres my feedback brother. I can feel the difference when playing fornite (the pit map), when i pump, or swap for shockwave. I believe this update brought a slight worse response when i click. It might be small but i can still feel it. Which makes me little sad because I can tell my trigger response make a difference in the game 😢. Still, best controller i have, don't even touch my series 2 because literally since several months (like 5 to 6months), this controller has no drift ❤️🦔
Hope this feedback is helpful ✨
Hey bro definitely helps a lot, thanks for sharing!
I still don't understand how everyone can be praising these people who made the controller. I mean if yours works it works but I bought 3 and bith of them no longer work after the 1k update that happened like 6 months ago?
I believe you’ve mentioned this before as well, honestly I wonder if it’s a batch thing coz mine is still absolutely fine, even after the most recent update but that’s just for nexus.
@@thephototechy idk man. i bought two they worked great. did the 1k update and it broke them. bought a new one, 6 months after i bought the others, abd same thing happened. idk if its a batch issue. id go as far as to say maybe somehow someway my pc and xbox just doesnt play nice with them and its glitchy using them? idk. only so many of us are having issues and i wonder if its a hardware issue on our end that doesnt want to play nice and is conflicting with the controller and its update. like if i were to send you my controllers and you apply the new update to it would it work on your stuff?
Just here to figure out if I can update my app or not but don’t have 20 mins to watch the video, can I update and keep 1000hz?
Yes you can but make sure to enable for the profiles before updating, as the option to change will disappear
Ya why its is removed
but headphone jack is still working only at 250 on Xbox, right?
Yes but you don't need headphone jack anyway
@@Ruzien I mean I dont but those who dont have a wireless headset do need it ;)
@@Lukasz3332x no just get a mix amp or plug it straight to the monitor
@@Ruzien monitors usually dont have microphone support just audio. How this mix amp is connected to PS5 or Xbox Series?
@ThePhotoTechy Before i take my controller out the box and conncet it to my xbox there is something i would like to ask, could us console players who dont have access to pc can we do the 1000hz and also if it disables headphone jack could we use the headphone jack on the monitor if we have 1, then possibly have the gamesound coming from that, i know we'll loose game chat but for solo games would be 👌🏽 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Hey so the 1000hz options has been disabled from the console app completely. A pc is needed to enable that, but the audio from the monitor will work fine, you can even use a different device like Astro or a wireless headset to get the audio. There was the feature of copilot controller for audio, it I’ve seen comments where that’s a bit problematic now.
@thephototechy so out of the box is there any recommendations you can give me for the best performance I can get on my console with this pad for call of duty warzone
@@dansnow2942
Absolutely, first off, make sure to disable the 10% minimum dead zones that are enabled by default. Also, verify that your controller is properly calibrated with a good center point. Once you've disabled the dead zone, check the registration to ensure it's consistent across all points. If you encounter any issues, refer to my video on fixing stick drift, which covers manual calibration and center point adjustment. Additionally, experiment with enabling or disabling raw mode, as it can significantly impact your gaming experience based on your preferences. As for the triggers, it's a matter of personal preference-try adjusting the minimum and maximum settings, or explore the hair trigger options to find what suits you best.
@thephototechy you've been great and very fast with all your feedback, thank you I genuinely respect your answers, I'll get to unboxing and start having a play around 😊
how can i switch from 1000 back to 250? it says use pc but im on xbox
Hey that option needs to be changed on a pc in the current build. This I believe as used so people could keep the 1000hz on console. Did you have any profiles with 250 set to before? They should still be 250 and the default one should be 250 as well.
i have 2 profiles on there both 1000
@@leknight1 hey so the third one will be 250 then. You can change between them using the m button and face buttons a,b,c and I believe y will enable the default profile.
@@thephototechy thank you brother. do you think 250 better for first person shooters?
bro im just in the firing range now in apex on the 250 hz it feels so much better why is that
I'm on pc, don't think I'm updating.👍🏽
Anyone else's g7 se thumbsticks spring get loose?
Mine, way more loose now then what it was. I’m showed the size of the spring in the JH16 video. It’s still not broken I’d say and works very well, but very noticeable when switching from a different controller.
@thephototechy Yeah, my left stick on Halo has to sit at a 3.0 deadzone, so I do not drift right.
@@Mcflrp that sounds similar to mine where I have a 2-4% register in any direction, that’s with a good centre point. I remember it being 5-7% as it was all towards one way, I was able to adjust if equally with a manual calibration. Have to say I’m impressed it has stayed that way.
Has nothing changed on PC ?
not sure but all ik is that the polling rate setting is still on pc
The update suppose to make it better on pc as stated by Gamesir. Using the nexus will definitely write something to the controller. Would love to know what you think of the performance on ox after the update? Thanks.
@@thephototechy on PC on the gamesir nexus app there are no updates it always tells me 6.30 is the latest version
@@ninjas9291 hey yes the controller version will stay the same, you’ll see an update for nexus only, check the Microsoft store and it should have the option below the open button.
@@thephototechy yes, in fact, I noticed that the app updated automatically.. nothing seems to have changed, I still have the 1000hz option, also checked with xinput 👌👌
Wow 6 frames is high latency 😮 .
Hey so it’s the lowest I’ve come across on consoles so far. There is the display lag we have to deal with on console which I’m certain is much lower on pc, something I’ll be making a video when I hopefully have a gaming pc.
Love your work man 🙏 . It's very interesting to watch
mines not even connecting 😭
Hey Xbox or pc?
J'ai cette manette joueurs de fornite les gâchette arrière ont bcp de latence je comprends pas j'ai beau changer rien de fou pour faire des édit ca fonctionne pas toujours pour temps j'ai un bon cross air placement une solution j'avais vue 7-90 mais bon ca ne va pas du tous
Hey are you on pc?