Hello Everyone! This has been a much anticipated video production and I am excited to have it out to you. If you have any questions please be sure to comment below or contact me on my Facebook page at facebook.com/4xpedition/ or contact me on my website at www.4xpedition.com. Look forward to connecting. And, once again, thank you for watching!
Hello Scott, Thank you for your videos! My wife and I just purchased a 2020 Subaru Outback Premier and we're are also planning to purchase an iKamper Skycamper for 4 people. You mentioned in this video not to use the stock cross bars that come with the outback. What would you reccomend? Pinsu rack? Rhino rack? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Again...great videos!
How much does the iKamper Skycamp and what is the total weight with occupants/gear? I put on a Thule box for my car and found the Outbakd and Thule manuals mentioned not to exceed a specific weight limit (~200lbs?).
I bought a used 2016 outback limited. Coming from compact sedans that I couldn’t take where I wanted this has been the best purchase! Love these videos.
I got the iKamper when it first came out and put it on my 2009 Outback. I did all the National Parks. Working on Canada now. All good no problems with tent or car.
@@jonnyfish76 In this video it was mounted to a Yakima rack with round bars and Yakima Landing Pads. My new setup in my most recent video with the new iKamper Skycamp Mini I installed it on a Prinsu rack.
@@jonnyfish76 I put mine on the factory roof rails and it's working great, fits in a standard garage door which I considered a must. 2016 Subaru Outback Limited 4 cylinder/same Skycamp without any locks.
Hi there. The new Wilderness is quite capable. I wrote this article about it here (before it came out) along with some cool mockups: 4xpedition.com/overland-subaru-outback-wilderness/
@@irishpride8157 I've only had it a few days, but at this point I could not recommend it more. I was literally in the process of buying a 4runner, and I reconsidered. I'm so glad that I did too.
I bought another Subaru, a 2020 Onyx Outback, and I realized, why do I need an 85K van conversion? Very informative and interesting video with great editing! Thanks so much.
This is AMAZING! Thank you for doing what you're doing! I'm a photographer and I'm buying the 2020 Outback this year and really look forward to all of the adventures! I subscribed! :D Cheers!
Hi Natalia. If you watch my videos you might have been introduced to Heather. She has a green Outback as well and has spent a great deal of time solo camping in it. I am always happy to hear of women getting out there and exploring on their own. I am excited for you!
I know I am a year late but you put the last nail in the coffin for me. The new 2022 Wilderness will be my next purchase. You outlined all the things I was concerned about with the outback and added the amazing addition of the tent. The Wilderness comes with a little less MPG and a little more clearance but I think it will be perfect. I didn't even think to add a wheel rack to the back to make more space inside so that was also amazing. Only thing I would add in addition to the light bar is a winch. Thank you so much. Weird side note, this is my second comment on youtube in years. SUBED and looking forward to more videos.
Hi Cody. I think the Wilderness is a good buy. There are some great winch integrations I have seen on Instagram from others that have built Subarus from watching this video. Look for those. And, thanks for subscribing!
I have a 2017 outback touring will be using it to camp. Presently I have a kitchen will be taking out the back seats a day modifying. Excited to get going. Enjoy your videos
I run two sets of wheels/tires as I don't get out as much as I want. Normal street tyres and a set of AT. I don't have a lift on my Subi or half the gear you have. You have inspired me a lot!
Thank you so much for showing me this video I just bought a 2017 Subaru outback and I am so impressed with it and now I’m even more excited because I can do other things that I didn’t even know I could do thank you thank you thank you!
Great video! I currently have a 2007 Toyota FJ. This is a very capable vehicle. I sometimes think of something that gets better gas economy, but I can drive a lot for what it would cost to replace it. I also really like the reliability of the FJ. A lot of improvement in the last few years. I also think about a Sprinter van. My hard core travels are pretty much over as I get older and am more into overland travel now. Thanks for another great video.😘👍
Hi Robert! I was just down at Canyon Ranch and looked for you. You used to be there, right? Or am I thinking of someone else? The FJ is a great truck. Too bad they discontinued it. The sprinter van makes a ton of sense. Especially if it is off-road capable. One of the best things about an adventure van is the comforts in rain situations and the ability to stay in it anywhere. Even in a city.
You can hear the BF Goodrich tires more in the Outback because it's more quiet overall than the Jeep. Jeeps have so much outside noise, wind and engine noise, sqeaks, rattles, etc, that the tires don't seem as noticeable.
I really appreciate that you shared your concerns about the Outback's factory installed racks, and that after market Yakima solutions are absolutely necessary to make this car practical for outdoor enthusiasts. As a kayaker, I wanted to transport 2 sit on top kayaks, and I bought a 2019 Outback not appreciating this important detail. The factory bars are fairly useless if you want to transport two kayaks. With all of the extra parts you need to buy separately, including bars, landing pads, towers, etc, the investment in the Yakima set up is around $400. I love the car in every other respect, but this aspect is a bum note for sure. I appreciated your honesty about this and subscribed on that basis. There's very little info out there about this issue, so your review is valued.
I have a 2018 Outback and we out out two Perception yaks on top with no other equipment than ratchet straps. We bought a Thule rack and used it once. It was ridiculous.
Still like watching your videos, even if on repeat but can’t understand why you don’t have more subs since you clearly put a lot of effort into your videos. Keep up the great with work.
Tires are louder on Outback because it is an unibody construction so the sounds from wheels resonate "better" through the entire vehicle. Body on frame vehicles have a certain level of separation between cabin and axles.
I just found your channel! We just purchased a 22 Outback wilderness and will be taking it to Big Bend in October. We also had jeeps, campers, etc. We then got into race cars and stopped all off road fun. We miss it and decided to get the Subarau, I did not want another jeep, not fun on the interstate. I am looking forward to watching your videos and learning! It has been a few years since we camped! We still have the race cars, but they can stay in the garage.😅
Awesome vid! I always wanted a truck or jeep as a fishing-adventure vehicle, but now Im really considering a Subaru. I don't haul a lot of heavy stuff and the places I plan on going are more soft-roading than real off-roading.
@@4XPEDITION idk now, if I got that Tacoma with those tires, I probably wouldn't need a float tube and could just dive into the middle of a lake and fish off it hahaha
Have fun! Have you watched any of the more recent videos? We switched out the tent with an iKamper Skycamp Mini. th-cam.com/video/JUbbaxvUTwg/w-d-xo.html
Nice man! Love your channel! I live in Tempe and work at Camelback Subaru as a photographer so I'm driving this vehicle all the time. I am considering purchasing this vehicle soon since it does everything; your additions to your Outback are way cool!
Very cool! Ya, I sold this model to my son earlier this year and am considering buying a Wilderness Edition. He now promotes the vehicle on his social channels. He would love to be a photographer at a Subaru Dealer! He's 21.
I love the brush guard, LED lite bar, and fog lites on your OB as it looks nearly factory installed. Deer are a major hazard where my daughter lives in rural Northeastern Kentucky and I’m going to check out LP Adventures to see what they have. Update: Unfortunately, LP Adventures doesn’t have the brush guard and skid plate for my 2012 Subaru Outback. Fortunately, my son-in-law bought and installed regular and high beam Hikari headlights on Ruby, and it’s made a huge difference at night.
For your next tire, you may want to consider Yokohama Geolander G015's. I have never been so impressed by a tire. They are just as quiet as the stock tires (although I did consider the stock tires to be loud for a passenger tire). I've been in frame deep ruts (im lifted), two foot of snow (these AT tires are snow rated), and driven thousand of miles at 75 mph on the highway. I will definitely be purchasing these tires again and will get some for my wifes outback when she gets it. I still average 28mpg. Although I just have the 4 cylinder.
My first video with #4XPEDITION , Great 👍🏼 review , I’m already hooked with this youtuber, definitely looking for the new Outback Wilderness 2022 if GOD willing. // 👋🏼Hi from Dominican Republic 🇩🇴 .
Very nice setup. I have no plans on camping with my Outback. But I still like your setup. The bars on the front and skid plate looks like a must. Can't wait til I get my 2020 Outback.
Yes, rock sliders are available from LP Aventure. But, there’s really no need for them on a Subaru outback. You’re not going to be crawling over 1 foot boulders which would require protection. The worst I’ve ever done is come off of engineers pass in Colorado to Ouray Colorado. (you can watch that video on the channel). Required building up rock piles to get down ledges and there was still no need for sliders. All that will do really is add extra weight to the vehicle.
GREAT video full of good information! Thank you for spending the time it took film and edit this. It's seamless and clear and easy to hear everything you say. Very nicely done. Cheers!
Excellent presentation on all the modifications you've .are to your 2017 Outback 3.6R, I have one as well and with just 50,000 miles it's great. What I'd like to ask, is the hard questions, like: How many miles do you have on it now? Any oil leaks? The CVT, how's it holding up? The new Wilderness edition has a lower gear in the rear-end and "improved" CVT, so it can climb most any hill without the transmission disengaging... So how R U doing on off-road hills?? Thanks and keep up the great work!!
Sweet ride!! I’m gonna do some of these mods to my fiancées outback! And coincidentally I have a rubicon gladiator with 2.5” lift and 37s. I’ve had 5 wranglers prior to this and the gladiator is definitely my favorite!
Thank you so much for this video 😊! I'm trying to figure out what vehicle to buy, whether to by a Toyota Rav4/or Highlander or a Subaru. My main concern is reliability. I don't know much about Subaru's. One thing I noticed with my friends Legacy is how tinny sounding it is when I close the door? Also, can I ask, why you chose the Outback vs the Forester? Thank you so much 😊
New subscriber. Taking early retirement and researching the purchase of my first (!) vehicle. Your videos with your detailed insights and suggestions have been extremely helpful and are one of the main reasons I’ve settled on the Outback. (Might take me some time to work up to the mods you’ve added!)
I'd tend to agree more for road tripping. I prefer the RTT even single as then I don't have to reserve sleep space in the back and can just load gear. But, I agree that if you put all of your gear down one side you can set up a full-time bed on the other.
Hi AG I’m solo traveller but at 75nsuddenly find myself without a Campervan and instead with a brand new Outback … how comfortable is camping in tne Outback really - if I can avoid buying a RTT then I’m happy to sleep inside if it can be comfortable!
I have to 2018 touring that comes with the Thule roof rack. Subaru told me the roof tent was supported/certified with this version and rack. I also like the fact I can remove the roof rack easily when I don’t need it, it gives the outback a little different look then all others with those black bars. I never did like the black bars on my older outback.
You be quite happy with your Outback. They’re AWESOME vehicles. We Love our 19. My wife uses it as her commuter car and we use it as our road trip vehicle. We live in north central WA state up in the mountains and get 5-6 feet of snow every winter. We live on a private road which we have to plow and maintain. We live 5 miles from a small town and our county road is the last to get plowed, so often times we’re driving over roads with at least a foot of snow. We’ve Never had any problems with our Outback. I’ve got my Rav 4WD stuck once and had to call my wife to bring the Outback to pull me out. When my Rav wears out, we’ll replace it with a Forester Touring. Enjoy your new Outback !
I was in the Silverton, CO area this past summer and was about to go and do Cinnamon Pass and Engineer Pass in my '06 Outback when a guy in an ATV talked me out of it. He said some of the swales were pretty steep, so I turned around and went back. I did notice about 90% of the vehicles coming through were ATV's... the rest were Jeeps with an occasional SUV. Be careful where you take your Outback....
@@4XPEDITION Thanks for the heads up... I just watched most of it and enjoyed it. I'm amazed you were able to go up Engineer Pass with your Outback... and you did it with a trailer hitch too! Now I wish I hadn't listened to that guy. Oh well... maybe another time.
Ha! I took my full size dodge ram down that same trail last summer. Pucker factor - 10/10. But it's really good to hear it can handle the Alpine Loop. I was wondering if they could.
I've been a BFG TA KO user for years. It's the first thing I change about any new truck I buy (used on 3 LandCruisers and a Tacoma so far). Great all around tire for on and off road use, very long lasting, tough with excellent traction (a little loud as you noted). That said, my 2016 3.6r Outback has Cooper Discoverer at3 4s on and I love them. Knowing the BFG tires pretty well, I don't think they are an optimal choice for the OB or Crossover. The BFG is a light/med truck tire with truck tire weight and hardness. The relative lightness of the OB and lack of lower "gearing" means it's going struggle a little getting those tires rolling. May not be as noticeable on 3.6r, but I'd guess you noticed a drop mpg if you were tacking it? The Coopers seem like a better fit for lighter crossover style vehicles. Lighter, slightly rounder profile, quiet on road, but still aggressive tread for most of what we'd ask and OB to do. I'm still getting to know the Coopers, will have them off road for a longer period of time next week , but I love them so far, would recommend folks have a thoughtful look before just doing what seems obvious and going for the BFGs.
GREAT insights. I really appreciate you sharing that thought with everyone. Let me know what you find as far as road noise over time and with handling on soft roads.
@@4XPEDITION Heading up to Mt. Shasta area next week. Plan to put the car and tires to the test as mush as possible and will definitely report back any updated impressions. Cheers. edited to add: might as well give you my first data point now, and that's around-town MPGs. I dropped from a reading of 19mpg on stock wheels and tires to 18.7mpg on the Coopers with 17" Sparco Terra rims. So a modest decrease in MPGs.
I second that opinion. Had K02's on an Xterra and loved them, but decided on Yokohama G015's AT for my 2010 3.6 Outback and love them. I find them better than BFG's in the snow and a lot more suitable for the Subaru. Very underrated tire IMO and after 60K kms no ill effects at all.
@@4XPEDITION 5 hour drive to McCloud/Mt. Shasta area last week on the Cooper Discoverers. Road noise seemed about the same as the stock all season tires the car came with, and definitely less noise than my Taco with KO2s. Didn't get a chance to test in dirt and mud due to massive snow storms that hit over the week. But I did get out in the deep snow and hard compressed snowy forest roads (after grading). These tires (and the OB in general) eat snow and ice! Very happy with them so far.
Great video. I had been looking at a Forester, but that was because I wasn't that familiar with the Subaru line. I like the idea of an Outback 3.6R. Bigger engine, and lots of features that speak to me. I appreciate you taking the time to make this video. Subaru should really send you a big check!!
If you want to get into a parking garage try a shorter wheelbase older Subaru Impreza sedan. I own a 1993 Impreza AWD. This thing has over 200k and drives like a tank. It comes with struts all the way around. Handles magnificently. If you put a wider suspension on it with a body lift you could very possibly get into garages with tent on top. Unfortunately my Subaru is pretty old and not many upgrades. I love this beater with a heater.
Actually, if you watch some of the latest videos you will see that I swapped the rack for a Prinsu rack and got a new iKamper Skycamp Mini and it now fits inside of a 6' 8" parking garage! Woot!
Just wanted to add, for those that are looking for an Outback in the same exact trim level, Subaru no longer makes the 3.6 for the Outback for the North American market. You would have to look at a used model.
Exactly why I bought the 2019 3.6, however, I would like to add, I was driving on the fwy yesterday and spotted the newest gen outback with factory plates, still missing some trim pieces, but there were two tailpipes in rear. So who knows, they may bring it back for 2021.
Joshua Hahn The 3.6 is gone for good. It was a dinosaur and that basic architecture of that flat six was around since the 90’s. The new Outback has a single exhaust for the 2.5 and a dual exhaust for the 2.4 turbo.
Thank you so much for such a thorough introduction video and putting it straight forward that the BF Goodrich tires are very loud on highway. I'd like to know quiet alternatives to BF A/T tires for a 5,000-mile road trip that consists of 90% highway and 10% gravel road.
To be honest the factory tires are ideal for highway and if you are just going down mild dirt roads, the subaru from factory is equipped for this. However, you might consider bringing a full-sized spare tire instead of the smaller spare they put under the rear cargo area. If you get a yakima roof tray you can put it up there.
Did you upgrade your springs or struts when installing lift kit? I currently have same LP Aventure 2” strut spacers. When I mount my rooftop tent I experience quite a bit of sag in the rear of my car. I’m considering Rallitek overload springs. Any feedback regarding sag or vehicle braking being affected by increased weight? I’m trying to ensure proper handling and braking power while going out on adventures.
I have not experienced any braking issues on mine. I have sag and I am getting ready to install eithe King or Rallitek springs in the rear. If you watch the sequence on the road closely you will see some bounce. I want more rigidity which will be provided by springs and will likely rise it up a bit in the back. I don't plan on putting any on the front. The braking power is definitely a personal preference. I personally don't see an issue but your situation and driving habits might be different than mine.
4XPEDITION I notice more of a dip in the front end when I am braking. I just need to brake sooner than usual. From what I have read Rallitek springs do not require a strut upgrade. King Springs require a strut other than OEM/Factory. Good luck with future upgrades 👍
Nice set up but a lot of areas in bear country e.g. yellowstone, etc. will not allow camping in soft sided structures like tents and pop up campers so you are limited while in those areas.
I know I'm catching this video late but I want another O B & now I know to get a touring model for a nicer tent install. You have GREAT upgrades on your rig. Thank you. NEW SUB. TAKE CARE..
Hi thank you great info- I am buying a outback wilderness to set up a overland and off road camper set up ad wanted to know how you carry all your gear w the roof top camper? Do you have a bike/storage set up on the back?
Then the hushmat or dynamat complete kit would do, pull the seats, lift the carpet and then lay down the floor to firewall sound and heat insulation down. When I lived in AZ I had to do the complete kits on my two Jeep’s and it worked like a gem. It took me a weekend to install, a day to pull the interior, prep, and a day to install and put everything back in.
I'm glad you pointed out that the OEM crossbars are weak. I've read on the forums that it really doesn't take much weight to snap them as they're just hollow aluminum bars. Curious if you got some new camera gear? Some of those car shot angles looked pretty professional for just an iPhone!
Hey there Matthew. Amazing as it seems, I still only use an iPhone. It's the 11 Pro Max with over 500G of storage so I only film in 4K at 24FPS. Thanks for checking in!
@@4XPEDITION Thanks. I jumped tonight not realizing you had responded because I have an issue that you might have experienced or heard about. We drove up to Chattanooga today and bought our tent, but found out that the Yakima towers are not wide enough on the '22 Outback Onyx. Bought a CVT Shasta and found this the hard way. I'm going to see if the Thule towers will work. Yakima's design brings the towers in toward the center of the roof one inch too much for the tent's rails to fit. We were amazed.
Just picked up a 2017 3.6R Touring in amazing condition with low miles. Awesome video and very informative. I've been looking at many of the parts shown here and I really do want to drive the car the way I know it's capable of but idk if I can bring myself to do it because it's so nice. Lol. For my first mod I'm mostly interested in a front bar with lights for my snowy and foggy commutes to my job that closes for nothing. I can't decide between the one you have or the Rally Innovations bar. I really want the amber Baja Designs lights for the fog and snow and I probably won't be driving on rocky cliff edges anytime soon so maybe the Rally Innovations is enough for now.
RTX really isn't my first choice for lighting anymore. There are a lot of great brands now since I bought mine. What will happen is, once you decide to take it on the dirt, you will likely want some underside armor. i.e. skid plates...especially if you don't lift your vehicle.
How limiting would you say, is the CVT while off-roading? I don’t mean in a rock crawling power sense, but in a traction sense when only three wheels are making contact with the ground? I’ve watched other Subaru videos struggling to move forward or backwards on gravel & rock inclines & declines.
I get good traction actually. I will say there was one time on the Engineers Pass trip on that road I mentioned that I think the computer system got squirrely. I was basically crawling over a loose rock pile after about an hour of traversing down a rough road. I stopped the car to get out and assess the route and when I got back in and put it in drive and stepped on the gas pedal nothing happened. Not even an engine rev. That has only happened once.
How is the wind noise on the highway with that tent kit on top of your roof rack??? I had a prinsu on my former Tacoma and it was louder than heck on the highway.
It's fairly loud if I have the sunroof slider open (not the glass but the shade). Otherwise not bad. Most of the noise comes from the AT tires on a unibody construction.
24:25 Can't you just remove the original plastic molding? These cars are mostly the same. One would have the chrome bars and the other the plastic molding/rack. I'm thinking of buying a Limited but I don't have one to check for myself.
Great video! I am thinking about doing something about having a full size spare, I like what you have done! I check and see if you have noted cost and where you bought the hitch and tire holder. I also have a subaru and very interested in the roof top tent so I will probably be bugging you!!!
The BFG AT’s aren’t louder on the Outback. There is more wind noise on the Wrangler so you don’t hear the tire noise, or because the Unibody of the Outback transmits more tire noise.
Hello Everyone! This has been a much anticipated video production and I am excited to have it out to you. If you have any questions please be sure to comment below or contact me on my Facebook page at facebook.com/4xpedition/ or contact me on my website at www.4xpedition.com. Look forward to connecting. And, once again, thank you for watching!
I love your set up. Allah blessed you so much.
It looks like you have a limited trim
Hello Scott,
Thank you for your videos! My wife and I just purchased a 2020 Subaru Outback Premier and we're are also planning to purchase an iKamper Skycamper for 4 people. You mentioned in this video not to use the stock cross bars that come with the outback. What would you reccomend? Pinsu rack? Rhino rack? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Again...great videos!
Great video .. lots of good info
How much does the iKamper Skycamp and what is the total weight with occupants/gear? I put on a Thule box for my car and found the Outbakd and Thule manuals mentioned not to exceed a specific weight limit (~200lbs?).
Finally I found a good channel about Subaru Outback.
I am 74 years old and comfortable sounds good to me. Thanks, Bob
Nice Bob!
This guy really puts a lot of time and effort into his videos
He did! And he does! ;-) Thanks for recognizing that.
I bought a used 2016 outback limited. Coming from compact sedans that I couldn’t take where I wanted this has been the best purchase! Love these videos.
I got the iKamper when it first came out and put it on my 2009 Outback. I did all the National Parks. Working on Canada now. All good no problems with tent or car.
Nice Joseph!
Hey, did you attach it to the factory roof rails, or an aftermarket rack? Thanks.
@@jonnyfish76 In this video it was mounted to a Yakima rack with round bars and Yakima Landing Pads. My new setup in my most recent video with the new iKamper Skycamp Mini I installed it on a Prinsu rack.
What is the advantage of having the tent on the roof rack rather than pitching the tent on the ground?
@@jonnyfish76 I put mine on the factory roof rails and it's working great, fits in a standard garage door which I considered a must. 2016 Subaru Outback Limited 4 cylinder/same Skycamp without any locks.
Every video I watch of the Outback’s capabilities brings me closer to trading in my truck.
Hi there. The new Wilderness is quite capable. I wrote this article about it here (before it came out) along with some cool mockups: 4xpedition.com/overland-subaru-outback-wilderness/
This is not my world, but very intriguing. I've been lusting over the Outback for quite some time. You're selling it well sir!
Thanks Paul!
Just bought a Forester and can't wait to do similar stuff. Keeping the emphasis on capable and functional.
Just picked up a Subaru Outback Onyx XT less than a week ago.. SUBBED.
i want one so bad
@@irishpride8157 I've only had it a few days, but at this point I could not recommend it more.
I was literally in the process of buying a 4runner, and I reconsidered. I'm so glad that I did too.
Just bought my onyx xt. Gotta wait for it to ship out though😫
@@MrJyytt Congrats...Lol..i waited a week for mine...Longest week ever! You'll love it.
jonnyfish76 I’m starting to see them appear on the road around my town and I’m getting jealous 😂
I bought another Subaru, a 2020 Onyx Outback, and I realized, why do I need an 85K van conversion? Very informative and interesting video with great editing! Thanks so much.
Right on!
Gosh Im so glad I bought an Outback. One of the best when it comes to off road and on road capable for the money.
Good choice!
This is AMAZING! Thank you for doing what you're doing! I'm a photographer and I'm buying the 2020 Outback this year and really look forward to all of the adventures! I subscribed! :D
Cheers!
Cool! Thanks for subscribing!
I got my iKamper and my Outback wildness car in green color.. I am so exciting to take days to camp and drive beautiful places around the country.
Hi Natalia. If you watch my videos you might have been introduced to Heather. She has a green Outback as well and has spent a great deal of time solo camping in it. I am always happy to hear of women getting out there and exploring on their own. I am excited for you!
I know I am a year late but you put the last nail in the coffin for me. The new 2022 Wilderness will be my next purchase. You outlined all the things I was concerned about with the outback and added the amazing addition of the tent. The Wilderness comes with a little less MPG and a little more clearance but I think it will be perfect. I didn't even think to add a wheel rack to the back to make more space inside so that was also amazing. Only thing I would add in addition to the light bar is a winch. Thank you so much. Weird side note, this is my second comment on youtube in years. SUBED and looking forward to more videos.
Hi Cody. I think the Wilderness is a good buy. There are some great winch integrations I have seen on Instagram from others that have built Subarus from watching this video. Look for those. And, thanks for subscribing!
I have a 2017 outback touring will be using it to camp. Presently I have a kitchen will be taking out the back seats a day modifying. Excited to get going. Enjoy your videos
Sounds great! Keep me posted.
Decided to have it done at a dealership because of the heating system in seats
I run two sets of wheels/tires as I don't get out as much as I want. Normal street tyres and a set of AT. I don't have a lift on my Subi or half the gear you have. You have inspired me a lot!
Cool! I have two sets also street and AT but I rarely swap them anymore.
Thank you so much for showing me this video I just bought a 2017 Subaru outback and I am so impressed with it and now I’m even more excited because I can do other things that I didn’t even know I could do thank you thank you thank you!
Glad I could help! Lots of great videos on my channel using that vehicle. Definitely check those out to learn the capabilities.
That wheel tire combo is sick
Tis!
Considering an outback set up for camping. Thanks for giving such a thorough review, and your tips. Kudos to 4X!
You bet, Jon!
I am thinking about getting a rooftop tent. Your video is excellent and very informative. Thank you for the tips.
A plethora of great information! Thanks for sharing your knowledge and setup!
Great video. I have a 2016 outback and yesterday I test drove a 2021 XT with turbo, onyx. Loved it.
I’ve been checking the 2021 out also!
Great video! I currently have a 2007 Toyota FJ. This is a very capable vehicle. I sometimes think of something that gets better gas economy, but I can drive a lot for what it would cost to replace it. I also really like the reliability of the FJ. A lot of improvement in the last few years. I also think about a Sprinter van. My hard core travels are pretty much over as I get older and am more into overland travel now. Thanks for another great video.😘👍
Hi Robert! I was just down at Canyon Ranch and looked for you. You used to be there, right? Or am I thinking of someone else? The FJ is a great truck. Too bad they discontinued it. The sprinter van makes a ton of sense. Especially if it is off-road capable. One of the best things about an adventure van is the comforts in rain situations and the ability to stay in it anywhere. Even in a city.
You can hear the BF Goodrich tires more in the Outback because it's more quiet overall than the Jeep. Jeeps have so much outside noise, wind and engine noise, sqeaks, rattles, etc, that the tires don't seem as noticeable.
Which Jeep, not my Jeep. Michelin tires only on the WK2. More room also......
It's the unibody and struts that transfer the sound, in any unibody vehicle.
This was very interesting. Thanks for making this video.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I have a 2018 Forester XT but love the looks of your Outback.
I really appreciate that you shared your concerns about the Outback's factory installed racks, and that after market Yakima solutions are absolutely necessary to make this car practical for outdoor enthusiasts. As a kayaker, I wanted to transport 2 sit on top kayaks, and I bought a 2019 Outback not appreciating this important detail. The factory bars are fairly useless if you want to transport two kayaks. With all of the extra parts you need to buy separately, including bars, landing pads, towers, etc, the investment in the Yakima set up is around $400. I love the car in every other respect, but this aspect is a bum note for sure. I appreciated your honesty about this and subscribed on that basis. There's very little info out there about this issue, so your review is valued.
Thanks Jon! Note I have since switched to a Prinsu Designs rack.
I have a 2018 Outback and we out out two Perception yaks on top with no other equipment than ratchet straps. We bought a Thule rack and used it once. It was ridiculous.
Still like watching your videos, even if on repeat but can’t understand why you don’t have more subs since you clearly put a lot of effort into your videos. Keep up the great with work.
I appreciate that! I'll hit 20,000 this week for sure but I agree. I should be at about 100,000 by now.
Tires are louder on Outback because it is an unibody construction so the sounds from wheels resonate "better" through the entire vehicle. Body on frame vehicles have a certain level of separation between cabin and axles.
Makes perfect sense.
Good job nenadmil.
I just found your channel! We just purchased a 22 Outback wilderness and will be taking it to Big Bend in October. We also had jeeps, campers, etc. We then got into race cars and stopped all off road fun. We miss it and decided to get the Subarau, I did not want another jeep, not fun on the interstate. I am looking forward to watching your videos and learning! It has been a few years since we camped! We still have the race cars, but they can stay in the garage.😅
Welcome to the channel, Missy! We have over 125 videos on the channel now and 5 more teed up to release soon!
@@4XPEDITION Thank you!
Awesome vid! I always wanted a truck or jeep as a fishing-adventure vehicle, but now Im really considering a Subaru. I don't haul a lot of heavy stuff and the places I plan on going are more soft-roading than real off-roading.
A Subi would be perfect for that. In fact, check this out... Scroll down to #3. flylordsmag.com/7-best-cars-for-fly-fishing/ Yours Truly.
@@4XPEDITION idk now, if I got that Tacoma with those tires, I probably wouldn't need a float tube and could just dive into the middle of a lake and fish off it hahaha
Awesome vid. I am going to camp in my outback soon. The tent is amazing.
Have fun! Have you watched any of the more recent videos? We switched out the tent with an iKamper Skycamp Mini. th-cam.com/video/JUbbaxvUTwg/w-d-xo.html
Your setup pretty much 80% of what I want, Thank you for the info!
Cool! What is the other 20%?
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I had the older model and enjoyed it thoroughly!!
Car or tent?
Just moved to Arizona buying one for sleeping and exploring excellent set up
Great for you!
Nice man! Love your channel! I live in Tempe and work at Camelback Subaru as a photographer so I'm driving this vehicle all the time. I am considering purchasing this vehicle soon since it does everything; your additions to your Outback are way cool!
Very cool! Ya, I sold this model to my son earlier this year and am considering buying a Wilderness Edition. He now promotes the vehicle on his social channels. He would love to be a photographer at a Subaru Dealer! He's 21.
I love the brush guard, LED lite bar, and fog lites on your OB as it looks nearly factory installed. Deer are a major hazard where my daughter lives in rural Northeastern Kentucky and I’m going to check out LP Adventures to see what they have.
Update: Unfortunately, LP Adventures doesn’t have the brush guard and skid plate for my 2012 Subaru Outback. Fortunately, my son-in-law bought and installed regular and high beam Hikari headlights on Ruby, and it’s made a huge difference at night.
Sweet ride for sure.
I recently bought a 2015 Subaru outback limited. Wish me luck guys. Coming up 9 years old but hopefully will last me ages
For your next tire, you may want to consider Yokohama Geolander G015's. I have never been so impressed by a tire. They are just as quiet as the stock tires (although I did consider the stock tires to be loud for a passenger tire). I've been in frame deep ruts (im lifted), two foot of snow (these AT tires are snow rated), and driven thousand of miles at 75 mph on the highway. I will definitely be purchasing these tires again and will get some for my wifes outback when she gets it. I still average 28mpg. Although I just have the 4 cylinder.
Nice add, Brendan. Will check em out.
Thank you for the information about the rack you used for your rooftop tent was very helpful!
Glad it was helpful!
My first video with #4XPEDITION , Great 👍🏼 review , I’m already hooked with this youtuber, definitely looking for the new Outback Wilderness 2022 if GOD willing. // 👋🏼Hi from Dominican Republic 🇩🇴 .
Thanks for following along! Welcome!
Just traded in a 2012 Jeep wrangler JKU for a 2020 Outback Premium. Great video!
Good for you! Thanks!
I love your passion for your business... Your car is really cool
Thanks Enrique!
Great video. Extremely well shot.
Thanks for watching!
Exactly what I was looking for.
Cool, John!
Very nice setup. I have no plans on camping with my Outback. But I still like your setup. The bars on the front and skid plate looks like a must. Can't wait til I get my 2020 Outback.
Right on!
Have you considered adding rock sliders; are they even available?
Yes, rock sliders are available from LP Aventure. But, there’s really no need for them on a Subaru outback. You’re not going to be crawling over 1 foot boulders which would require protection. The worst I’ve ever done is come off of engineers pass in Colorado to Ouray Colorado. (you can watch that video on the channel). Required building up rock piles to get down ledges and there was still no need for sliders. All that will do really is add extra weight to the vehicle.
11:44 describing what that Subaru can do... well said...kinda like a tank!! Great video and description of your trails. Keep that “tank” going!
Thanks Martin!
WOW! Love all of it! retiring soon, looks like a nice lifestyle!
Well, now you know what the second half of your life will look like Wayne!
GREAT video full of good information! Thank you for spending the time it took film and edit this. It's seamless and clear and easy to hear everything you say. Very nicely done. Cheers!
Thanks Robert!
Excellent presentation on all the modifications you've .are to your 2017 Outback 3.6R, I have one as well and with just 50,000 miles it's great. What I'd like to ask, is the hard questions, like: How many miles do you have on it now? Any oil leaks? The CVT, how's it holding up? The new Wilderness edition has a lower gear in the rear-end and "improved" CVT, so it can climb most any hill without the transmission disengaging... So how R U doing on off-road hills?? Thanks and keep up the great work!!
No leaks, car still runs like a dream. No problem on the hills. I passed that Subaru set up onto my son. He’s now driving it and adventuring with it.
Thank you very much for getting back to me, greatly appreciated and a Merry Christmas to you and your family!
I really like that brush guard with the lights
Yeah. A really great look.
i have a 2021 Outback. after this video, you've given me some ideas!
Cool!
Beautiful backdrop for the video
Sweet ride!! I’m gonna do some of these mods to my fiancées outback! And coincidentally I have a rubicon gladiator with 2.5” lift and 37s. I’ve had 5 wranglers prior to this and the gladiator is definitely my favorite!
Right on! I love the Gladiator. I considered one before buying the Ram 1500 Rebel.
Just subscribed, planning to get an outback in Southeast Asia. Thanks very informative.🏄♀️🌴🏄♀️🌴🏄♀️🌴
Awesome, Norman!
Tight work! Can't wait to get my ikamper.
Thank you so much for this video 😊! I'm trying to figure out what vehicle to buy, whether to by a Toyota Rav4/or Highlander or a Subaru. My main concern is reliability. I don't know much about Subaru's. One thing I noticed with my friends Legacy is how tinny sounding it is when I close the door? Also, can I ask, why you chose the Outback vs the Forester? Thank you so much 😊
Check out the new OUtback Wilderness.
New subscriber. Taking early retirement and researching the purchase of my first (!) vehicle. Your videos with your detailed insights and suggestions have been extremely helpful and are one of the main reasons I’ve settled on the Outback. (Might take me some time to work up to the mods you’ve added!)
Welcome aboard, Nick! Congrats on the retirement. Consider joining TEAM 4X. We have some great people in there to chat with and learn from. Cheers!
For 2 people it’s nice to have roof top tent. For single it’s plenty space inside, even for two, especially rear seats in outback folding flat
I'd tend to agree more for road tripping. I prefer the RTT even single as then I don't have to reserve sleep space in the back and can just load gear. But, I agree that if you put all of your gear down one side you can set up a full-time bed on the other.
Hi AG I’m solo traveller but at 75nsuddenly find myself without a Campervan and instead with a brand new Outback … how comfortable is camping in tne Outback really - if I can avoid buying a RTT then I’m happy to sleep inside if it can be comfortable!
Really humble dude
Appreciate your productions!!! Subscribed!
Thanks Victor! Welcome aboard!
Thank you for talking about your tires! I’m in need of AT ones and these look perfect.
I have to 2018 touring that comes with the Thule roof rack. Subaru told me the roof tent was supported/certified with this version and rack. I also like the fact I can remove the roof rack easily when I don’t need it, it gives the outback a little different look then all others with those black bars. I never did like the black bars on my older outback.
Thule makes great racks.
This just became goals and i dont even camp. Im just in the market for an outback. My wife thinks im crazy. 😂
You’re not crazy. It’s human nature.
We just bought one because it was the only one available at the dealer that we liked lol I love it though
You be quite happy with your Outback.
They’re AWESOME vehicles.
We Love our 19. My wife uses it as her commuter car and we use it as our road trip vehicle.
We live in north central WA state up in the mountains and get 5-6 feet of snow every winter. We live on a private road which we have to plow and maintain.
We live 5 miles from a small town and our county road is the last to get plowed, so often times we’re driving over roads with at least a foot of snow.
We’ve Never had any problems with our Outback. I’ve got my Rav 4WD stuck once and had to call my wife to bring the Outback to pull me out.
When my Rav wears out, we’ll replace it with a Forester Touring.
Enjoy your new Outback !
I'm curious if you have any thoughts about the new outback wilderness that has a bigger rack that supports overland tent.
Here is what I think. 4xpedition.com/overland-subaru-outback-wilderness/
Ah, you answered my questions in this video that i asked in another video. Thanks for the tour of your scooby!
Any time!
I was in the Silverton, CO area this past summer and was about to go and do Cinnamon Pass and Engineer Pass in my '06 Outback when a guy in an ATV talked me out of it. He said some of the swales were pretty steep, so I turned around and went back. I did notice about 90% of the vehicles coming through were ATV's... the rest were Jeeps with an occasional SUV. Be careful where you take your Outback....
Hi there! Have you watched my Engineer's Pass episode? th-cam.com/video/A8COCTZlF58/w-d-xo.html
@@4XPEDITION Thanks for the heads up... I just watched most of it and enjoyed it. I'm amazed you were able to go up Engineer Pass with your Outback... and you did it with a trailer hitch too! Now I wish I hadn't listened to that guy. Oh well... maybe another time.
Ha! I took my full size dodge ram down that same trail last summer. Pucker factor - 10/10. But it's really good to hear it can handle the Alpine Loop. I was wondering if they could.
Ha! I have a ram truck, too! Check out the video of the Overland Explorer install in Bozeman Montana on my channel.
I've been a BFG TA KO user for years. It's the first thing I change about any new truck I buy (used on 3 LandCruisers and a Tacoma so far). Great all around tire for on and off road use, very long lasting, tough with excellent traction (a little loud as you noted). That said, my 2016 3.6r Outback has Cooper Discoverer at3 4s on and I love them. Knowing the BFG tires pretty well, I don't think they are an optimal choice for the OB or Crossover. The BFG is a light/med truck tire with truck tire weight and hardness. The relative lightness of the OB and lack of lower "gearing" means it's going struggle a little getting those tires rolling. May not be as noticeable on 3.6r, but I'd guess you noticed a drop mpg if you were tacking it? The Coopers seem like a better fit for lighter crossover style vehicles. Lighter, slightly rounder profile, quiet on road, but still aggressive tread for most of what we'd ask and OB to do. I'm still getting to know the Coopers, will have them off road for a longer period of time next week , but I love them so far, would recommend folks have a thoughtful look before just doing what seems obvious and going for the BFGs.
GREAT insights. I really appreciate you sharing that thought with everyone. Let me know what you find as far as road noise over time and with handling on soft roads.
@@4XPEDITION Heading up to Mt. Shasta area next week. Plan to put the car and tires to the test as mush as possible and will definitely report back any updated impressions. Cheers. edited to add: might as well give you my first data point now, and that's around-town MPGs. I dropped from a reading of 19mpg on stock wheels and tires to 18.7mpg on the Coopers with 17" Sparco Terra rims. So a modest decrease in MPGs.
I second that opinion. Had K02's on an Xterra and loved them, but decided on Yokohama G015's AT for my 2010 3.6 Outback and love them. I find them better than BFG's in the snow and a lot more suitable for the Subaru. Very underrated tire IMO and after 60K kms no ill effects at all.
@@4XPEDITION 5 hour drive to McCloud/Mt. Shasta area last week on the Cooper Discoverers. Road noise seemed about the same as the stock all season tires the car came with, and definitely less noise than my Taco with KO2s. Didn't get a chance to test in dirt and mud due to massive snow storms that hit over the week. But I did get out in the deep snow and hard compressed snowy forest roads (after grading). These tires (and the OB in general) eat snow and ice! Very happy with them so far.
Awesome video. Also in AZ. Well continue to watch more when I wake up. SUBSCRIBED!
Welcome aboard!
Great video. I had been looking at a Forester, but that was because I wasn't that familiar with the Subaru line. I like the idea of an Outback 3.6R. Bigger engine, and lots of features that speak to me. I appreciate you taking the time to make this video. Subaru should really send you a big check!!
I’ve actually been talking with Subaru of America.
Thanks for the positive feedback and if you have any questions don’t be afraid to ask, Steve!
If you want to get into a parking garage try a shorter wheelbase older Subaru Impreza sedan. I own a 1993 Impreza AWD. This thing has over 200k and drives like a tank. It comes with struts all the way around. Handles magnificently. If you put a wider suspension on it with a body lift you could very possibly get into garages with tent on top. Unfortunately my Subaru is pretty old and not many upgrades. I love this beater with a heater.
Actually, if you watch some of the latest videos you will see that I swapped the rack for a Prinsu rack and got a new iKamper Skycamp Mini and it now fits inside of a 6' 8" parking garage! Woot!
Just wanted to add, for those that are looking for an Outback in the same exact trim level, Subaru no longer makes the 3.6 for the Outback for the North American market. You would have to look at a used model.
Exactly why I bought the 2019 3.6, however, I would like to add, I was driving on the fwy yesterday and spotted the newest gen outback with factory plates, still missing some trim pieces, but there were two tailpipes in rear. So who knows, they may bring it back for 2021.
Joshua Hahn The 3.6 is gone for good. It was a dinosaur and that basic architecture of that flat six was around since the 90’s. The new Outback has a single exhaust for the 2.5 and a dual exhaust for the 2.4 turbo.
Great video, so much info. Much appreciated!
My pleasure!
Great video man. Nice setup.
Thanks Nick!
When you unfolded your tent with the ladder.... That's badass!!!!
Can you please do a quick video of how you mounted the roof rack and the tent
I can't unfortunately because I have now swapped out the factory rails and Yakima Rack for a Prinsu fully installed rack.
Thank you great info for I'm getting ready to purchase an Outback.
Nice Les.
iKamper SkyCamp here we come
nice, Frank.
Thank you so much for such a thorough introduction video and putting it straight forward that the BF Goodrich tires are very loud on highway. I'd like to know quiet alternatives to BF A/T tires for a 5,000-mile road trip that consists of 90% highway and 10% gravel road.
To be honest the factory tires are ideal for highway and if you are just going down mild dirt roads, the subaru from factory is equipped for this. However, you might consider bringing a full-sized spare tire instead of the smaller spare they put under the rear cargo area. If you get a yakima roof tray you can put it up there.
What is that tent brand big mountain very interested I’m fixing to buy a outback hi my kayak fisherman that would be super handy
iKamper. That is the Skycamp 2.0. After that I got the Skycamp Mini.
Did you upgrade your springs or struts when installing lift kit?
I currently have same LP Aventure 2” strut spacers. When I mount my rooftop tent I experience quite a bit of sag in the rear of my car. I’m considering Rallitek overload springs.
Any feedback regarding sag or vehicle braking being affected by increased weight?
I’m trying to ensure proper handling and braking power while going out on adventures.
I have not experienced any braking issues on mine. I have sag and I am getting ready to install eithe King or Rallitek springs in the rear. If you watch the sequence on the road closely you will see some bounce. I want more rigidity which will be provided by springs and will likely rise it up a bit in the back. I don't plan on putting any on the front. The braking power is definitely a personal preference. I personally don't see an issue but your situation and driving habits might be different than mine.
4XPEDITION I notice more of a dip in the front end when I am braking. I just need to brake sooner than usual.
From what I have read Rallitek springs do not require a strut upgrade. King Springs require a strut other than OEM/Factory.
Good luck with future upgrades 👍
@@jsteeder Hmm.. I don't seem to have that same issue with the dip. Thanks and you too!
Nice set up but a lot of areas in bear country e.g. yellowstone, etc. will not allow camping in soft sided structures like tents and pop up campers so you are limited while in those areas.
Yes, this is true... and for good reason.
@@4XPEDITION Safe travels, have fun!
I know I'm catching this video late but I want another O B & now I know to get a touring model for a nicer tent install. You have GREAT upgrades on your rig. Thank you. NEW SUB. TAKE CARE..
Awesome! Welcome!
Hi thank you great info- I am buying a outback wilderness to set up a overland and off road camper set up ad wanted to know how you carry all your gear w the roof top camper? Do you have a bike/storage set up on the back?
Hi Larry. Watch this video. th-cam.com/video/LOuiUsm5bMA/w-d-xo.html
where did you get the bumper gaurd i have a forester and cant find anything like that for it
LP Aventure.
I'm looking at new wilderness edition, now I'll go with a DIY dynamatt door kit for a sound barrier and just better insulation.
Probably a good idea but, a lot of the road noise comes from vibration of the unibody construction.
Then the hushmat or dynamat complete kit would do, pull the seats, lift the carpet and then lay down the floor to firewall sound and heat insulation down.
When I lived in AZ I had to do the complete kits on my two Jeep’s and it worked like a gem.
It took me a weekend to install, a day to pull the interior, prep, and a day to install and put everything back in.
I'm glad you pointed out that the OEM crossbars are weak. I've read on the forums that it really doesn't take much weight to snap them as they're just hollow aluminum bars. Curious if you got some new camera gear? Some of those car shot angles looked pretty professional for just an iPhone!
Hey there Matthew. Amazing as it seems, I still only use an iPhone. It's the 11 Pro Max with over 500G of storage so I only film in 4K at 24FPS. Thanks for checking in!
Maybe you've answered this but I haven't found that content yet. Do you need the longer crossbars for rooftop tents? I just got the 50" bars.
I don't believe so. I had long ones but not sure it was necessary as they stuck out several inches on either side of the RTT.
@@4XPEDITION Thanks. I jumped tonight not realizing you had responded because I have an issue that you might have experienced or heard about.
We drove up to Chattanooga today and bought our tent, but found out that the Yakima towers are not wide enough on the '22 Outback Onyx. Bought a CVT Shasta and found this the hard way. I'm going to see if the Thule towers will work. Yakima's design brings the towers in toward the center of the roof one inch too much for the tent's rails to fit. We were amazed.
Just picked up a 2017 3.6R Touring in amazing condition with low miles. Awesome video and very informative. I've been looking at many of the parts shown here and I really do want to drive the car the way I know it's capable of but idk if I can bring myself to do it because it's so nice. Lol. For my first mod I'm mostly interested in a front bar with lights for my snowy and foggy commutes to my job that closes for nothing. I can't decide between the one you have or the Rally Innovations bar. I really want the amber Baja Designs lights for the fog and snow and I probably won't be driving on rocky cliff edges anytime soon so maybe the Rally Innovations is enough for now.
RTX really isn't my first choice for lighting anymore. There are a lot of great brands now since I bought mine. What will happen is, once you decide to take it on the dirt, you will likely want some underside armor. i.e. skid plates...especially if you don't lift your vehicle.
Very sharp looking Scooby and the camping kit is pretty epic too!
Thx!
BRB Gonna binge all of your vids, just subbed. Looking at some subies and your vids are very convincing
Thanks for subscribing!
How limiting would you say, is the CVT while off-roading? I don’t mean in a rock crawling power sense, but in a traction sense when only three wheels are making contact with the ground? I’ve watched other Subaru videos struggling to move forward or backwards on gravel & rock inclines & declines.
I get good traction actually. I will say there was one time on the Engineers Pass trip on that road I mentioned that I think the computer system got squirrely. I was basically crawling over a loose rock pile after about an hour of traversing down a rough road. I stopped the car to get out and assess the route and when I got back in and put it in drive and stepped on the gas pedal nothing happened. Not even an engine rev. That has only happened once.
Your better off not using traction control when offroad or rain with the Outback 👊🏽💯
How is the wind noise on the highway with that tent kit on top of your roof rack??? I had a prinsu on my former Tacoma and it was louder than heck on the highway.
It's fairly loud if I have the sunroof slider open (not the glass but the shade). Otherwise not bad. Most of the noise comes from the AT tires on a unibody construction.
@@4XPEDITION Thanks for the reply.
24:25 Can't you just remove the original plastic molding? These cars are mostly the same. One would have the chrome bars and the other the plastic molding/rack. I'm thinking of buying a Limited but I don't have one to check for myself.
It isn't as easy as it may sound. In fact, if you watch my video showing the install of the Prinsu Rack replacement you will see what I mean.
Great video! I am thinking about doing something about having a full size spare, I like what you have done! I check and see if you have noted cost and where you bought the hitch and tire holder. I also have a subaru and very interested in the roof top tent so I will probably be bugging you!!!
The rack is Wilco Offroad Hitchgate Solo. The hitch is a Curt Class 3 hitch.
The BFG AT’s aren’t louder on the Outback. There is more wind noise on the Wrangler so you don’t hear the tire noise, or because the Unibody of the Outback transmits more tire noise.
Yes, agreed. The unibody transmits more tire noise.
I have a 17 outback with the same OEM rack. Do you know the landing pad # you used on your Subaru
Hi Chris. Honestly I don't recall the exact ones but if you go to your local REI store they have the Yakima catalog and it says in there which to get.
What are your thoughts on the new Outback Wilderness?
Hi there. Here are my thoughts. 4xpedition.com/overland-subaru-outback-wilderness/