What You Should Know About Joe Rogan
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- The REAL Reason Joe Rogan is So Popular
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80% of kids who are diagnosed with dysphoria do outgrow it with puberty, that is a factual medical statement that is widely known in the relevant medical communities, so that clip being shown as evidence of misinformation on the show should be removed as it's right to say there are people who push nonsense on the show but that particular example isn't one.
Would love a Johnny Harris Joe Rogan Podcast episode!!!
@@NaveedKhan-gk2px Agreed!
Calling it, Johnny Harris + Joe Rogan interview by the end of the year on the JRE podcast.
Over/under: November 27th
No shot
Johnny worked at Vox before so Joe will not have him on
Maybe they'll watch some Jakerton memes while they're at it!
No no the goal of this was to make sure he didn't interview Trump!
ok
Can you also do "The Rise of Johnny Harris"?
White mormon dude leaves church, becomes hipster/journalist
Done
@@oehnkcgood summarised of his story
@@oehnkc
Pretty accurate so far
I think it would be infinitely more interesting than play Joe Rogan bio. I mean everyone on TH-cam nose Jose story. Almost feel upset knowing that Johnny wasted tons of time on a video like this when we could have gotten something so much more interesting..
@@BonsaiBuckeyeok, boomer.
"My biggest critique of Joe Rogan: Joe lets people talk"
wild statement lol
Very media-esque
Your comment was what I came to the comments for. Underrated comment! My first thought after hearing the OP say that was, "... and that's a bad thing?" Everyone deserves their chance to speak in the court of public opinion.
Video was quite good, up until this point.
WTF honestly. Letting people talk is the exact thing we need to do. We shouldn't fight on the streets. We shouldn't bomb cities. We need to talk, and censoring people you deem "not worth to have a voice" is exactly what mainstream media is doing and why people are fed up with them.
Ya, authoritarian leftists don't like people being able to exercise rights lol
The only person that should have a voice is me… that’s really democratic! 😂
I think one of the main reasons that Joe Rogan has such a wide appeal is the fact that the podcast isn’t about him. There are long stretches in the show where he doesn’t say a word. He lets his guest just talk. Joe is the representative for the audience. At the end of an episode you feel like you were the one talking to the guest. And because Joe knows what the audience wants, he’s able to ask all the right questions so that the audience feels properly represented.
1000%
Good catch to why Rogan is a big hit!!!
Spot on!
Nailed it
10000000%
As both a listener of JRE and a viewer of yours, I think you getting on the show would be a rich discourse. It's already set up so perfectly--you being the journalist who answers some of the most interesting questions, and him being the interviewer that just throws just as many interesting questions, though sometimes controversial.
I was thinking of this as well.
I want this.
This please
Harris was a Sr. Video Producer at VOX....Not exactly the Washington Post or the NY Times, or Car & Driver for that matter.
Compared to them, VOX was a blog with videos. Albeit a popular blog with videos. But I would stop short of calling him a Journalist because he didn't have a seat in the WH Briefing room & he never traveled w/the WH Press Corps, or is even a member of the National Press Club that I could find. Doesn't mean he isn't talented. He's got a long way to go, is what I'm saying.
*EDIT* when I wrote this, it was 6:45am or something, and since then many people have enlightened my position.
Like when the lights come on in a night club. _Don't have to go home, but you can't stay here_
Definitely! This would be awesome!
Love how this started out as a Joe Rogan video, and then turned into 10 reasons why you hate Alex Jones😂
RIGHT??? like wtf was thaaatt
Lmao I thought the same thing, buddy could’ve made an entire separate video just out of that
And let's do another video of how many times Alex Jones has been right...
I like how he roasts Alex Jones multiple times by saying hes doing all of this to sell his powder. Meanwhile this guy has a 2 minute nord vpn ad praising it and saying they are the best company ever. Soooo this video was only made to promote an ad and get paid? Theres no double standard here??
To be fair, it’s very easy to hate on Alex Jones
So basically he's allowing people to speak freely and that's a problem because the masses can't be trusted to agree and disagree with the right things.
Sometimes, it’s what people don’t say that speaks the loudest.
@@CT-vm4gf...
So you want to instead think for people?
@@kaushalbarka9404 YES. Me personally. I will think for us all... FOREVER!
Correct. You have a responsibility to not misinform, that is not what freedom is speech is for- it's an abuse of it.
A hundred years from now they will be able to watch historical figures talk shit with Joe Rogan. I envy them.
The one thing I actually like about Joe is that he lets his guests talk. I watch based on who the guest is.
So everyone else sits and just listens?
@@jamesg8203 he doesn't cut them off. He allows them to say what they want and get out a full thought.
@@amandamccallum6796 I see youre very small minded
Same, or a guest I have come to not like, I'll watch to get an unfiltered view of them, and over the years it's wild how much the media has contorted people going against their agenda.
@@amandamccallum6796I think that guy is just trolling you lol
Joe letting people talk is his best quality.. Its crazy thats your biggest critique
Cause bro is massively bigoted as a grown adult😂
@@turnitdownboog7191 Whether true or not, wtf does him being "massively bigoted" have to do with him allowing so many people on his show to speak their minds? wtf are you talking about?
@@turnitdownboog7191Ok Hillary 😂
Johnny Harris is paid and sponsored by the World Economic Forum. He is a propagandist.@@ABirchwoodVampire
@@ForTheOmnissiah talking about the Mf who made this video y’all really tweaked out
I think the importance of Joe Rogan's approach to not sensoring certain people really gives us the audience key insights into how people think, no matter how bad their views are, and if we are objective and educated viewers we can learn something about the trauma and psychology of said 'bad' people and hopefully we can learn more perspectives, which could eventually lead to more harmony through understanding and using communication as a powerful tool. People who are shoved into 'good' or 'bad' often get trapped in their own bubbles so nothing really changes, Joe seems to be bridging the gap objectively.
I think that’s a great point and I think it brings up a really interesting question about what freedom of the press means in the modern age. I see a lot of talk about free speech in these comments, and that is certainly part of the discussion but it seems to focus more on the individual’s right to say what they want. Freedom of press is very similar, but I think has an added layer of whether a platform with an audience and presumed credibility should be allowed to do certain things… anyway I’m on a tangent but I totally agree with you, I think it’s important to understand people who are contrary to your beliefs even in the most extreme cases, but sometimes I worry about the sort of cult of personality around certain people like Rogan or Andrew Tate or so many others (pls don’t crucify me if you like them those are just the first ones that came to mind lol). It’s like on the one hand I totally agree that we should all have a right to the press and to say what we want, but I also can’t shake the feeling that sometimes stuff like this could be harmful bc there a people who will follow a celebrity’s or influencer’s words blindly, even when they bring someone on their show who, to most educated and objective people, is very clearly extremist/untrustworthy/out of their mind/etc.
I appreciate and like all of what you said! I also feel the need to push back a little. Or at least, give a response to the part of you that is concerned about people who are influenced by celebrities.. and the like.
To me, it follows that similar path that politicians/governments ride. To be concerned for weaker minded and 'lower' caliber types of people (to put it bluntly). This concern seems to come from a good place, except it presumes some people shouldn't have access to all the same information. Or that it's better we all have the same type of information , so some people aren't led astray. If that doesn't send a shiver down your spine or all of that seems well and good, let me give an example. Bringing it back to the political path I think of...
Let's imagine what acting on our concerns for the easily influenced plays out! We do our best to minimize the audience radical outliers get (not shut them up. We would never want to actual SILENCE someone. We sure aren't going to label it that way). How do we decide who is a radical outlier? Maybe the thought is, it's obvious! Well, if it IS obvious then the concern to limit a radical's reach makes zero sense. Unless we believe most people are weak minded and need to be taken care of for their own good. At which point we've arrived at the actual reason for limiting certain kind of speech: fear of allowing people who think and believe in ways we detest, take over and even worse... what is "right" becomes a minority and the end of it all... our safety and security were jeopardized by allowing the majority to rule.
Basically... we got to let all sides talk and remember we all don't have it right. That's why we need EVERYONE to have their voice. Not necessarily have their voice announced but legitimately let them HAVE their voice.. to say what they will. Consequences abound. So when the crazies get to drumming... remember there is a you, me, mom, dad, sis, bro or any fucking joe noticing how crazy the beat is :) @@morgangoodman2898
He is overthinking this. Joe Rogan is entertaining, has interesting guests, and if Alex Jones speaks, I think of it as a clown show. If someone out there believes everything Candance or Alex say, their problems go really deep and Joe is not moving the needle either way.
Bro went through the stages of grief when he talked about AJ
he is missing the point entirely - none of us use joe rogan is news - i am a fan and we all KNOW he is a fruitcake with strange science ideas but he is still entertaining
I think the rogan issue is that people think we are hanging on every word of his. We like him as an interviewer. He’s knowledgeable as hell and able to ask great questions.
Alex Jones is my FAVORITE guest. I'll drop everything to see that podcast.
@@FastGunner2040 yeah you know its gonna be a banger lol
Can someone make a fact check compilation on Johnny Harris please
Tom Nicholas did a full analysis of Johnny Harris' china video. (which was totally not sponsored by WTO)
Why you’re wrong about Johnny Harris.
Well that would take too long there are too many lies in every video.
seems like something you want, so you should do
@@thehatmaniac6958 Tom did a decent job of pointing out his flawed sources but he didn't debunk it completely. There is another youtuber named BadEmpanada who debunked that video properly
Should’ve been titled “my JRE application” my man’s was glazing him up the whole time. like damn bro
😂😂😂
Fr though 🤣
This needs to be pinned. Johnny saying Joe "sells contrarianism" when Joe is the most prominent mainstream reactionary political channel on youtube had me rolling.
jonny Harris is Biden
Pathetic. No mention of the founder of the Proud Bous, all the assault apologists, anti trans activists. Johnny Harris is a Joe Rogan Revisionist
I think Joe is 100% real. No persona. No marking gimmick. Just Joe.
You're missing the point Johnny, it's a podcast. It's all about giving a microphone to his guests. Why doesn't Joe have a right to put on a variety of guests on? Just cuz you don't agree with a certain guest, doesn't make it wrong. That's like someone telling you that you're not doing the right stories and you shouldn't do a story on a certain subject
It's crazy how Johnny Harris blatantly says Joe "is a leftist" and then completely ignores everything he's done and said for the past 3 years after he had a major political shift. No Johnny, Joe is not a Bernie Sanders supporter, he literally pushed Ron DeSantis for the next president.
Get out of the left right paradigm
He is pushing for desantis because he knows that Biden does not stand a chance in the upcoming election.
He would rather have Desantis over trump.
@@Civilianmusic no bro is spitting
@@Civilianmusic it’s not a left/right paradigm it’s more of a normal person/insane person paradigm
15:22 watch this part again. This is exactly what everyone is doing in these comments. Harris never says “Joe is a leftist”, he says, “Joe leans left on a lot of topics”, which is absolutely true. Some of his ideas align with the left, and some with the right. People think if you have even just one idea that aligns with the right then you’re an extreme right wing reactionary. 🙄 His entire point was that Joe Rogan didn’t fit into a usual box.
So this guys biggest critique is freedom of speech?
he starts with "its good to have a platform for freedom of speech", and then goes to "anyone who disagrees with me is not a freedom of speech".. Johnny Harris is a joke, he is the same Woke Police he kept mentinoing about.
yeah actually a pretty dumb take to say some people shouldn't be allowed to have a voice lol. Then you completely miss the point of Joe's podcast.
he says that fact checking the stuff that is being said is dangerous for such a big audience, which it is
Everyone deserves the right to speak, it should be left to the individual to choose whether or not to agree, disagree or to be offended, no one should have to power to make this decision on our behalf.
You didnt finish the video.
Instead of selling health products he sell Nord VPN
About 10 minutes in and he's already made it clear 3 times that he's not a Joe Rogan viewer. We get it.
I find joe's ability to let people talk is one of the main reasons I like his show. Crazy people will expose themselves if you let them talk.
Exactly right,
in my opinion it's ironic that the blind spot, or the falacy seems to be with johnny harris himself, as he thinks that some people don't seem to deserve a platform, and suprisingly they are all right leaning, which is what a lot of liberals seem to think
the fact that joe doens't seem to differentiate between left idiots and right idiots makes hime genuine, wheras johnny clearly has a hierachy in opinion, which ultimately clouds his mind as well.
They only expose themselves to people who aren't susceptible to their bullshit. Not everyone listening is thinking critically, which is why there needs to be push-back so insane conspiracy theories and outright lies aren't just spread unchecked. How many who agree with Joe about the silencing effect of "woke mobs" chuckled along with McInnes' story of assaulting protesters without considering how antithetical that is to free speech?
@@Pykenike1 That's so reductive it's like you didn't watch the video. Candace Owens is a right-winger, Harris praises the value of getting to listen to her just speak. The people he is most critical of being platformed aren't just right-leaning, they're far right, and in the case of Alex Jones they already have a platform they use to spread lies and batshit insane conspiracy theories. Having him on is just giving him a bigger platform. If Joe can draw the line at Trump, it's fair to ask why not people like Jones?
this. I think this went over Johnny's head
Except Joe clearly holds a right leaning bias currently, he just follows what's popular and that's popular at the moment. Just like how when Trump was president it was much more mainstream to be left leaning. It's all just bullshit noise distracting us from the real problems in our country,
If ideas are bad the best way to thwart them is through open discourse.
Amen
Not with fascists and the far right
@@californiacombativesclub202 -iq
@@californiacombativesclub202 “yeah that’s true for everyone except the people I disagree with”
@@californiacombativesclub202 They're that kind of people that most intriguing to listen to. If you don't listen to someone who you disagree with you can never form a proper and informed opinion of them. In a sense you are the fascist by not listening to fascists.
‘Openminded is good. But don’t be so openminded that your brains falls out! ‘
The idea that people we don't agree with should be silenced or are dangerous for society is disgusting. As a self proclaimed journalist you failed
Seriously this lost me on this channel
Opinion is not objective
He is overthinking this. Joe Rogan is entertaining, has interesting guests, and if Alex Jones speaks, I think of it as a clown show. If someone out there believes everything Candance or Alex say, their problems go really deep and Joe is not moving the needle either way.
He didn't say they should be silence he said we don't need to give them a megaphone to 11m people....that's quite different then silencing them.....but or course some people only hear what they want to
@@brianzerega1958 11 million people is like a drop in a bucket plus the videos never get that many views they average out at like 1.5 million. So i think what you said is quite funny because it just calls people dumb when in reality people are picking and choosing which episodes they want to watch its not like he has a connection to everyone's brain who subscribed. You are what is the problem you are the one who wants to only hear what you want to hear.. ur projecting lol
@@beautifulrose8619 I think the big point of that is not referring to anyone who listens to Alex Jones and that's it. It's someone who takes this guy's batshit crazy talking points seriously and decides to act violently towards others because of them is the problem. Much like when Trump says the election was stolen, that has affected thousands of people's lives for the worst who work during the elections as volunteers. When ur a powerful person and millions of people listen to u what u say matters and both of these men in question are extremely irresponsible in that regard.
Definitely didn't watch a jre episode after 2019 because this is absurd
I didnt watch it either... why is it absurd?
@@asarim-de-roJoe had a complete 180 in his political views
@@lollmaoimcoolno he hasn’t. He has always believed in freedom and loving all types of people. The left used to believe in free speech, bodily autonomy and acceptance of all kinds of people. All he’s done is realized that the game has changed.
@@lollmaoimcool How bout u reflect on yourself? its obvious the paradigm has shift. the left doesnt care about people. Its just control. I dont want to argue with you cause your mental state alone from thinking that must be on the otherside of the universe
people keep saying that.... with no evidence. HE didn't switch sides. he saw that the Left is NOT on our side. Nor the right
@@lollmaoimcool
Johnny is really smart and great at telling stories. I respect him and appreciate his effort to spread what he believes is the truth. However let´s not forget that he has been criticized several times before by fellow youtubers and journalists for oversimplifying information and wrapping "facts" to his own personal views / thoughts, which might help with spreading misinformation. Seems to me that this video is a bit hypocritical tbh.
Yeah there was a lot of bias in this video. He did state he is biased though.
100% agree !
"I'm a journalist. Sharing fake facts is a cardinal sin" lmao Johnny's hypocrisy is showing up slowly day by day. Keep doing this Johnny, we'd like to see your true colour.
Agreed
On his part, he did apologize and changed quite a few things including employing fact checkers. While Joe Rogan just nods his head while his guest tells lie after lie. Joe is mostly clueless.
Joe isn’t censoring anyone and he’s a hero for that
Except he's afraid to say Sam Seder
Joe Rogan's value is the long-form podcast format. Listening to someone for 2+ hours really allows us to get inside people's heads, which is unlike a 5 minute interview on mainstream media channels that will only provide very rehearsed sound bites. Rogan is also good in that he brings a humble "everyman" persona to intellectual conversations that is very approachable. Finally, putting people like Alex Jones on is still valuable in that we should be able to get some insight into how/why someone like Jones - obnoxious as he is - still have a very large and loyal audience himself. It's important that we try to understand that, or at least acknowledge it.
Agreed. Johnny totally forgot that a podcast is not the news and is not intended to be a source of information, but rather as a source of entertainment
Yes. This video makes some good points but illustrates why people like Alex Jones needed a voice. I'm not a fan of Alex but even this video made a case off some video clips which, while true were selected from thousands of hours of Alex's content. To be sure, we can't take everything on a podcast at face value but watching someone converse unscripted for a few hours gives us a sense of what kind of person they are.
I would argue that letting crazy people talk for hours is a great thing. You can see how stupid they are. If you cant, youre already lost. I value Joe a lot cause he does not judge people just from heresay.
I was looking for this
Exactly!
I hate censoring people, and everyone’s ideas should be given a microphone no matter how crazy.
💯
@@The_Adam_Smith_Simp This is such a stupid take. Why don’t we put schizophrenics screaming about chemtrails on the evening news? Why don’t we let 3rd graders present their science projects at academic conferences? Information exchange without standards muddies the waters to the point of making it all useless. Not all opinions are created equal. The sad truth is that most people are too stupid to discern fact from fiction and just in case you’ve been living under a rock for the past decade, misinformation has become one of society’s biggest problems.
Yeah his whole video critique is pretty flawed. He should have just made a video about Alex Jones.
oh yes, the only valid criticism of joe rogan is that he's too curious. what ground-breaking stuff here
Yep, seems par for the course.
How DARE we platform people who have different ideas! How dangerous! :) I am glad that his amount of supporters show that reason is winning, and reason takes time, and discourse. People just want to be fed comfortable, simple answers that agree with them.
@@carpo719totally. Promoting anti-science cranks and conspiracy theorists and anti-trans hate is totally just being "too curious". Let's give these people as big of a microphone as possible as since these "free thinkers" has such "ground breaking" ideas for our society 😂
@carpo719 the whole point is its not about platforming people with differing opinions its about platforming people with EXTREME fringe opinions that are so beyond conspiracy that you can't possibly be informed on the topic enough to create any real "intelligent discourse" this entire thing is meant to create. I like Joe but not even just the conspiracy stuff I remember he believed a guy who said he ran a marathon with both his legs broken and would train everyday until something broke and would still get back up as if we are in a fucking anime because there is no real way to disagree with him other than "that's too crazy to be real" and he'll say "but it is real". "Wow!"
The problem isn't that that Rogan has different ideas. This video is a wildly incomplete and misleading representation of who Rogan is now.
I was a big fan of JRE, this is not who he is anymore. He actively promotes and spreads misinformation. The people he gives a voice to are (more often than not) pseudo-scientists, transphobic conspiracy theorists, and self-proclaimed nazis. Rogan literally had a significant role in the promotion of anti-vax movements.
If these are the "different" ideas you want out there, then yes, it IS dangerous.@@carpo719
🎉🎉🎉🎉 finally some with brains 🧠
"Not everyone who has a point of view and who is famous has ideas worth hearing or debating in our society. I really believe that" And Johnny Harris shares a key part of his own philosophy. THis is not a man who is open minded and has a very specific bias in his work online.
If a point of view leads to a part of society losing it's ability to speak freely, then this point of view must be considered an exception to free-speech. Simple.
@@mitoo4880 Hogwash. Speech doesn't lead to a part of society losing it's ability to speak freely without turning into action. Actions can be limited, but speech - no.
It's a misunderstanding of Popper's Paradox of Tolerance. If you can't combat those supposed bad ideas with better ones, then you probably don't have a better idea.
If there are exceptions to free speech, then it's not free speech. Period.
@@RichardChappell1 just look where it's going.
This is free speech Kremlin-style, This is free-speech as in lying is authorized.
You think it's good because it has the word "free" in it.
@@RichardChappell1 We need a legal kind of free-speech.
You are not allowed to lie in court.
Free-speech is useless if anyone can lie.
It's just a word that looks good.
@@mitoo4880 Wow. You really don't understand the concept of free speech do you?
People can and do lier in court all the time - including lawyers. Prosecuting lawyers do it often to trip people up in their testimony. Cops do it all the time to get people to confess to things. Politicians do it constantly. The FDA and public health officials lied constantly throughout the pandemic. Activists lie to manipulate people all the time. Teachers lie to their students - both intentionally and unintentionally.
You get caught bearing false withness in court there is a penalty due to the specific oath you take in the processdings. If you yell fire in a croweded theater which directly causes people to lose their life, you will be charged for directly causing the harm.
We have only very rare limitations on speech that the Supreme Court has judged do not substanitally infringe.
You are advocating a tyranny where someone decides what is truth and puishes people for different ideas. There are other societies who enact such policies. All of them are considered a stain on history.
It's funny that you do not see the hypocrisy of your argument. Here is the essence of what you (and Johnny) are calling for: "We need to limit speech if I think they will limit someone else's speech."
You basically violate your own principle just by stating it.
Letting crazy people talk exposes their craziness further. And it’s recorded! I disagree with saying it’s a fruitless action.
I think the problem with your optics into this issue is you're looking at Rogan's show as if its something journalistic like yours. That he's trying to get to the truth of some matter or another.
That's not his purpose, his purpose is to allow these people to speak in an uninterrupted form for an extended time, and minimally guide the conversation to entertaining areas.
He is offering them a modern platform that could be considered the equivalent of what books where: a way for someone to express their ideas fully without having to go in circles explaining themselves to bad faith argumentors.
And it's important to do that even with people like Alex Jones. The interesting aspect to that kind of episode is: how does this human being think? If he almost convinced you of something (before you remembered oh yea it's Alex Jones, gotta fact check this garbage), it's just a testament to the fact that even these crazy people can make compelling stories, and if it's half as compelling to you over three hours, imagine how compelling it can be to themselves over their entire lifetime.
It's an amazing platform to learn to understand how these people think.
Also, the comment about "waking up and realizing it's Alex Jones and checking facts" is very presumptuous. You state it's a case of your daily job being to fact check things, but you're essentially implying that most people are too dumb to realize "hey, that's a crazy person".
Most people are smarter than most people think. Enough so, that most people think they're above average.
Spot on
Hit the nail on the head with this. Well said. Joe respects his listeners intelligence. If you got to the end of the Alex Jones episode and agreed with him, or were swayed by him significantly, there wasn't hope for you from the start.
Journalistic? This video wasn't journalistic at all
Best comment here
Yeah great comment, couldn't argue more 🙌
The best part of a free and open discourse is that no one person, not me, Not you, get to decide what is PRODUCTIVE and GOOD discourse. It blows my mind when people think they are somehow positioned to dictate what should and shouldn't be said. Everyone gets an opinion, the racists, blm, proud boys, boy scouts of America, everyone. It's a right enshrined in the constitution. Who cares if a weird dude or two go on rogan??? If the ideas are bad, they will be stamped out by lack of adoption. If YOU think they are bad, (and some definitely are) doesn't mean you should feel entitled even to feel like you could prevent the ideas from being shared.
Hear, hear 👏
thank god someone said it. johnny championing openness, then wants to decide what shouldn't even be heard. we can decide for ourselves who is a nutter that deserves to be ignored, and who knows, maybe we can even learn something by hearing someone saying things we disagree with. none of us knows it all, we are all learning and growing (hopefully)
Nah, actually you don't have to and shouldn't give nazis a platform on your hugely popular, giant platform to spew propaganda. Hot take I know.
How can I like this more, that is exactly what I wanted to say. He was almost leaning into being barr of the cancel culture.
100%
This started off as an unbiased take on Joe Rogans show until halfway through you outed yourself as a die hard lefty.
“It’s really hard to hate someone once you hear them speak.” Honestly that often makes it easier 😂😂😂
I've loved Joe since I was a kid. I don't always agree with him but I appreciate his willingness to have a discourse with anybody and everybody.
He’s great at boosting right wing propaganda
@lopoa126 And some would argue he's good at boosting left wing propaganda. Like Johnny points out in this video, I think he's largely uninterested in one particular mind set.
I wonder which one is worse...@@thomasburns6289
@@Yakoaxxi Vladimir Putin is right wing and Kim Jong Un is left wing. They are as bad as each other.
It says a lot about society that this is bot unique and a break from reality
Next: "Why you're wrong about Tim Pool" 😂
“Tim isn't a right wing grifter, he's just a normal guy that loves free speech and freedom. I may have a few minor disagreements with his politics, but the more I listen to him, the more I can relate to his worldview. He may get into many passionate debates, but under his tough exterior, he's really just such a nice dude that also has impeccable taste in head wear.”
- Johnny Harris, probably
Dude the problem is that Joe Rogan has lost his way, he's surrounded himself with conmen, liers, grifters and/or Right wingers. He has stopped being unbias and actually talking about both sides with some facts/reality. He's literally just thrown all reasoning out the window and went full conspiracy, Joe wasn't always this one sided. Getting old and COVID must have some serious affects on the brain.
When you only hear one side, where most of it is actual disinformation and verifiably false, you actually start believing the world is a certain way, even if everything else says otherwise. Cognitive dissonance and bias are very strong with most of us @@dotxyn
@@dotxyn I literally cannot tell satire anymore.
@@Cryptix001 It's okay to misunderstand, just like Ol' Timmy boy is misunderstood
@@dotxyn "he's just a normal guy that loves free speech and freedom" literally can't read that without hearing it in the Joker's voice.
In an age where disinformation keeps the masses violently polarized, I truly appreciate the objectivity that Johnny & Joe present. Please keep it going! Gives me the strength to carry on
Anyone else wanna see Joe vs Johnny in a taekwondo match?
The Alex Jones episode was one of my favorites. Pure comedy gold.
Me and my friend at work both told each other "Bro ALEX JONES IS ON JRE" when it came on haha
Agree, best thing on the internet
Yup. I find him very entertaining. I think he's off he's rocker, but he's entertaining nonetheless. Joe has even said multiple times that he thinks Alex is playing a character and he doesn't buy his insanity.
According to Johnny everything must be fact checked and can't just be what it is... an entertaining podcast.
hours long and when it was over, I was sad.
brain worms? I google'd it... yeah.. million of people have it. And that's at the beginning of that episode, where it's sane. Then shit goes wild. Shame how Alex Jones is banned, when he and his topics should be openly debated. If nothing else, that man can entertain.
Joe Rogan has put a show that is so long that people can't hide behind talking points. It's a show that allows you true insight into who the person is or at least gives you the broad idea. It's an equal platform that anyone can speak on. That's the greatest part. On top of that Joe is there questioning their ideas and wondering how their thought process works.
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom of consequence.
@@filipgasic2642expand on that maybe?
@@filipgasic2642You get vastly less consequences if you're on the left
True, also it's for anyone to decide what they like, or believe watching on his show... that's the power of JRE, no pre-judgement and no censoring just cause somebody has a different opinion.
people who whine about the left but mean liberals and have a victimization complex about being a reactionary are so impotent
First time viewer, rogan fan. Agree with you, I also think there’s a lot of value when you just let people talk about whatever they want for a long time. I also think his podcast is one of the closest ones to truth because it feels authentic. Thank you for the great video, I like the idea of uncensored journalism.
First time Joe Rogan watcher, Johnny Harris fan. I’d heard a lot of negative stuff about Rogan over the years so I was interested to see what this would be about. Of course I’m sure it’s not the same as just listening to his podcast without a journalist commentator, but I was pleasantly surprised! I get why people feel like his podcast is authentic and I really respect how he approaches controversial topics with open mindedness. Like your comment :)
the problem with this video Johnny made is he did not support free speech from people he judges unworthy...
You can't call it a fallacy and then say its based on your personal belief.
It honestly surprises me that Johnny didn't already know this about Rogan, he's an absolute powerhouse. He doesn't care who you are or where you're from, he'll be polite and respectful to anyone who just wants to have a talk.
weird he hasn’t had an actual Egyptologist, or any lefty’s not the usual reactionaries who criticizes liberal and democrats type. Hasn’t had Abby Hoffman in ages too.
@@AloisWeimarWould they still go on?
He lies. He's jealous of Rogan I guess
@@AloisWeimar you automatically jump to the conclusion that he doesn't have those people on because he doesn't want to have them on. what if he invites them but they decline the invitation? or their management declines on their behalf? or they overlook the invite in their inbox? or they have conflict of interests? or they know they would be caught in i a lie in a long format, live broadcasted show?
Of course he doesn't care who you are or where you're from because you'll generate money for him if you're interesting enough. If there's one thing JR loves it's money, money, money
The problem with censorship is that different people have different criteria for who should be censored. There is not a fine line between "should censor" and "should not censor" and why would anyone's opinion be more valid than someones else.
We censor things all the time. For example, you can't publish an article calling Johnny Harris a N*zi without getting his with a lawsuit for slander, which it is.
Thank you for saying this! I feel too many pro censorship people forget that there is no clear line on who should be censored.
When your opinions are hurtful on a large scale you should be censored
@@filipgasic2642 Hurtful to who? Your opinion is hurtful to everyone who is an advocate for free speech, so using your logic (hurtful on a large scale), you should be censored.
@@filipgasic2642no absolutely not. A large number of people find the LGBT community hurtful, should they be censored? I don’t think so.
Excellent points by many people. I just like to add that I learned more about Andrew Yang & Bernie Sanders from his 2 podcasts than literally all tv shows combined.
Bro, you cover stories that are way more impactful and sensitive yet you don’t get worked up. Why the drama here?
This is an application to be on JRE for sure 😂
It's honestly painfully embarrassing, I've always liked Johnny's stuff but this is Matt Taibbi levels of sucking up.
@@chrishird21nah Hes right
@@chrishird21 what
Doubt Joe wants some random NPR wannabe youtuber on his show
@@chrishird21 Johnny is criticising Joe in the video, this is not some desperate plea
Joe Rogan is proof that sincerity reaches more audience than journalistic protocol.
Edit: What I meant by "sincerity" is that he doesn't let someone else's agendas control what he says. And I know he is not a journalist. But established journalist outlets do seem to regard him as a competitor--which is why they seek to eliminate him.
Joe Rogan and sincerity go in opposite directions.
He is sincere in the questions he asks, but not in his views and opinions
So the best podcasts of his, are usually with the best guest speakers
He is a good interviewer who lets his guest speakers shine, so that's good about him
Op is delusional 😂😂
@@It-b-Blairfound the crazy leftist
@@daemoneko how is he not sincere? if he believes what he's saying, even if you don't agree, then he is being sincere. lol
I used to be an avid JRE listener for the same reasons you mentioned. Now I’m more selective about what I listen. Not because of the easily rebuttable ideas from the likes of Allen Jones, but because the repetitive ideas and guests. When occasionally new experts and ideas get presented, it makes me appreciate how much SOME of his guests helped me to challenge the boundaries of my reality and paradigm. Johnnys contents have very strong narratives of his own, which comes with its format. Whereas JRE guests often disagree with and challenge Rogan, and this video is a great reminder that I should play that role when watching Johnny. Thank you for that.
"I'm a journalist" is the most honest statement in this video. I love your videos, although I disagree with a lot of your opinions.
I never watched JRE because I always thought it was just guys sitting around shooting the shit. Years ago, I happened to watch one of his videos with Dan Flores, IIRC, and they spent the entire time talking about coyotes and wolves. I've been a fan ever since. I'm not really into the shows with other comedians but when he interviews knowledgeable folks from other fields? One of the best to ever do it.
Yeah I love those types of guests. If you haven't seen the Paul Stammets episode yet it's one of my favorites. Guys a mycologist, aka mushroom expert. Mind blowingly cool episode imo.
I agree - I avoid the political episodes, but the episodes with scientists are some of the most amazing I’ve ever heard
Listening to people you disagree with is crucial. You cannot argue in good faith without knowing what you're arguing with.
it is so basic. i couldn´t agree more
I agree so much
True, although I think Johnny’s criticism is valid. Balance isn’t always better. If you invite one scientist who endorses vaccines and one antivaxer, you create a false sense of equal legitimacy.
I guess thats the benefit of bringing on over what, 1500 guests now?
As many things in life, I feel it depends a lot on context.
A good faith debate about a topic with a lot of uncertainty or equipoise? Sure, any day of the week.
But a yelling match where uoure making claims without any attempt at evidence... I can only give so much time.
But not to worry, I don't feel the need to convince everyone of my beliefs. So while I may not want to hear someone scream that gravity is a conspiracy... I'm not gonna bother to get them to believe otherwise.
For me the most appealing thing about the JRE is the lack of hubris. Refreshing in this world. Also, people usually are quite capable of detecting bullsh*t by them selves, but thanks for pointing out ad nauseum what you "DEEPLY DISSAGREE" with.
By the way, keep these amazing videos coming. I love these and look forward to them. I’ve had so many debates, not arguments, because of your channel which I enjoy because it allows everyone to air their views and have a proper discussion about the questions that are asked.
Joe’s long form interview style is desperately needed in our media environment. Mass media treat viewers like they are simpletons. The fact that Joe gets more viewers to watch his show that almost every TV show (other than the Super Bowl and other huge sporting events) goes to show how hungry viewers are for real conversations.
Joe never interviewed anybody in his entire life. He has 3 hour long conversations where he never pushes back (or hardly) shares a lot of weird conspiracies and just goofed around. Highly entertaining but not an interview
We are in the golden era of podcasts. Lex Fridman is another thought provoking podcast host. You’ll never get long form discussions in big media “entertainment news” channels
He has a unique way of pulling stories from guests and asks questions. Definitely an interview.
@@MrJimheerenthe guest is the star really Rogan is just there to kinda prod them along really, he’ll switch up the direction of the convo or some shit if he feels he needs to occasionally but the guest is more of the focus
@@Allen667sjja I don’t know about you. But I’ve heard the the same dozen stories Rogan likes to tell at least a 100 times. Chimp’s, LSD, some fight stories, something that happened on stage the standard Rogan drill
Kinda wild that he put Jordan peterson and Alex Jones in the same category.
Not too wild.
What similarities do they have in terms of their message?@@esterhammerfic
There are so many wild things said in this video.
He says that he thinks it’s extremely important to let people talk even if you disagree with them and then goes on to say that Alex Jones should not be featured on the podcast because he disagrees with him.
a lot of videos discrediting johnny's videos with proof of misinformation (through omission), lack of cited sources, and poor interpretation of historical texts have come out in the past few years. i've watched them but gave them little thought. i genuinely thought i found a channel with little to no political bias and equal coverage of all sides. this video disappointed me with a lot of logical fallacies and unfair portrayals of people.
Yeah
As a 14 year old furniture mover, I popped in my earbuds on my lunch break and opened the Podcast app for the first time ever. Immediately, I saw a name that I recognized from UFC and Fear Factor growing up. Joe Rogan.
He had episodes with comedians, scientists, survivalists and hunters, entertainers, and even somewhat regular people. It was very relatable, and lasted 3hrs per episode, which meant 2.5 episodes could fill my ENTIRE day. The extremely long form meant that at some point, no matter who he spoke to, the facade would fall and it would just be a regular conversation between two regular people. I’ve been a regular listener since that day.
With all that said, he has plenty of opinions and thoughts that I don’t agree with whatsoever. But I DON’T think that’s a problem. It’s exactly what we need.
People who are not afraid to speak their mind. People who are not afraid to have controversial figures on their massive platform and hear what they actually have to say when not chopped up into a 2 minute news interview, even if only to refute their nonsense 2 seconds later.
For a while I stopped listening entirely because I felt going exclusively to Spotify was peak sellout, but I missed that type of conversation so much that I’ve come back.
He’s definitely put some controversial things out there, but I think his podcast has had an overall positive impact.
If you scoff when you hear his name I will probably scoff at the invite to your party. If you have listened to what he actually has to say, you’ll know that he is a pretty level headed guy who just wants to hear every side of every story.
Also, your overall critique seems to be that he is too OK with letting people who say wild, incorrect, harmful things on his platform, because people take big sources as trusted sources… but you said it yourself. He is a tough guy fighter comedian and actor. He should ABSOLUTELY NOT be your source for trusted news. If he is, YOU are the problem. You’re probably also getting “news” from Russian bots on Facebook. Joe has discussions, and he happens to be at a high enough level of fame that millions of people want to hear those discussions. That is all.
Why shouldn’t Alex Jones get to tell his side of the story?
because they would start to hate him less, and they hate that idea.
Lmao. He ends the video by trying to humanize Klandace Owens.
🤮🤮🤮
But she speaks nicely!
It’s impossible to hate her even though she calls for the death of a certain kind of people!
@@Bullfrog777 What are you referring to?
Are you intimidated by facts? Boohoo
The idea that joe Rogan is a some right wing extremist is absolutely insane, he actually pulled me towards the left to the point that I became a moderate democrat after being a republican. Now with the parties shifting so much recently I’m stranded in the middle, but Rogan was great for getting me away from being a right wing partisan. I’m thankful to Rogan for making me a more compassionate balanced person. He’s number 1 for a reason
Thoughts had by ignorant people
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@@circusbrains hes spot on dude. Did you not just watch the video? The words came right out of his mouth dude it’s amazing how some people can deny the truth when it’s right in front of them.
In a few months you will not know which gender you are 😂
@@EmanEgnarts-that’s left wing extremist ideology. Ironic the left calls the right ‘extreme’ while they’re extreme themselves 😂
What the Alex Jones interview taught me that Alex Jones is mentally disturbed and that is why it is valuable.
Hi Johnny, great episode. Would love to know your view on The Diary of a CEO podcast. Similar views to Joe Rogan's podcast?
I used to watch the channel diary of a CEO which exposes information about whole foods vs Carbs and how the politicians and lobbyist are in each other's pockets using tax payer's money to poison us with their chemically made toxins whilst trying to drive farmers out of business... However after all the information he collected and exposed about corrupt government globalist corporate agenda's he turned around and said that free speech is hate speech on twitter so I stopped watching and unsubscribed!
thing is that Joe Rogan governs his opinions using his principles rather than political views. His views might seem "all over the place" if you're weighing them against mainstream political cateogries, but if you boil his views down to their core principles, he has been incredibly consistent.
agreed, "all over the place" didn't really resonate with me, he's just honest and authentic, something that is severely lacking in general from media and personalities.
I beg to differ. his opinions on medical science are extremely naive and that stance *is* political.
@@popmonkey he's increasingly improving his knowledge on that too, as he said himself, he tries to correct mistakes
@@camatrusaca that's good to hear
@@mashmods it did with me and well at first but after a while I realized who he reminded me of.
my fellow white male Gen X ers who might still call themselves libertarians except "independent free thinker" sounds better despite all of them having exactly the same "authentic" views. naive views that can only come from a life of privilege that until recently they wouldn't even admit to.
I'm glad to see that he learns as he gets older. but he still seats Kennedy Jr in the same seat as deGrasse Tyson.
You lost the plot entirely when you said Joe Rogan's politics lean mostly left. Not only has he gone back on a lot of those principles (he now thinks universal basic income is bad because his buddy who owns a bar would need to pay his employees fairly), but he refuses to support anyone who wants to implement those policies. Currently he openly supports Ron DeSantis, who is more than happy to take all of those things he claims to support away.
agree
You do realise the Man says these are just his opinions based on what he's read. And had no interest in affecting or publicly supporting anyone in politics...
@@tumimbasa1705I see nothing wrong with this post in regards to that.
It seems like he switched to Trump recently.
@@tumimbasa1705 Which man are you referring to, Joe or Johnny? Because Joe most certainly does support candidates, and if you're talking about Johnny, then what you wrote has nothing to do with my comment.
Bros about to get sued by Gavin McInnes.
The good thing about Joe Rogan, he lets the audience decide what is bullshit and what isn’t. People are tired of people telling everyone what they should believe or how they should think.
Peak liberalism right here
the comment section is up there with the video too
It hurt my brain
Spend almost 20 minutes being reasonable and discussing Joe’s background, then leftist gene kicks in .
Yeah pretty leftist
Yeah pretty disappointing
Hey, let me remind everyone people are allowed to say shit and be wrong. That's why people love Joe Rogan. That's why I watched Joe Rogan because I know I'm getting an unfiltered honest opinion and it doesn't matter if it's right or not.
“Doesn’t matter if it’s right or not”.
Well, that about sums it up doesn’t? Lol
@@ubcphysicsyangboim not allowed to think, waiting for left wing to tell me what to think
@@ubcphysicsyangbo🧑🦯🐑
What do you mean by allowed? By law? Or that it's morality okay for people to spout harmful conspiracy theories?
@@9justify but would you be willing to accept that you're wrong when proven? Because a lot of people don't care to acknowledge facts
absolutely love your videos man!!!! such a good job on this one
Although I do not agree with everything you publish, I enjoy your TH-cam channel. I watch the Joe Rogan podcast too. And don’t always agree with everything he says or publishes either. Your critique on the JRE is not bad but I am not sure you understand why a 67 year old man like me listens to someone like Joe Rogan more often than a person like you.
Imagine this…. I was raised in NYC during the 60s and 70s. During that time the majority Italian Americans that lived in the city discriminated against Puerto Rican people. And it was bad. I had great animosity toward that ethnic group. You see, I am a Puerto Rican man. And I think Joe Rogan, a “MAN” of Italian ancestry is an excellent person. That should tell you all you need to know about Joe Rogan. Regardless of intention, he is the beacon of light we need in broadcasting.
Joe is a liberal in the true sense of the word. You are not. He seldom takes sides; you almost always have a slant, a far leftist slant. Joe is being himself. He puts his personality out there for everyone to see. Oftentimes you come across as plastic. No opinion but mostly that far left leaning slant. Perhaps you need to look closely at yourself. As the future unfolds, I will continue watching your videos but I will use a more critical eye. Perhaps you should allow people to choose for themselves. Grow up Johnny Harris; the world needs more journalists or hacks, if you will, like Mr. Joe Rogan.
this guy is the reason why 1984 can be a reality
bro got called fat phobic and the reasoning was that he observed a woman that was larger than most women and said “that’s a large woman”🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣This is some tweaker shit
frrrrrrrrrrrr
explain. i have no idea what you are trying to say.
Johnny Harris is paid and sponsored by the World Economic Forum. He is a propagandist.
@@krakcahe wants to take away freedom of speech for a certain group that being right wingers
Once again I find the confusion of Johnny Harris informing us of history and facts but videos like this are just this guys perspective of someone, we should watch everything with a critical eye.
I'm really happy this video exists. Just shows you even the 'Trustworthy' ones are full of lying shit and purposefully ommiting facts
I lost trust in him ever since he called Julian Assange an ''asshole''. Now i'm just checking in from time to time cause i think he might be controlled opposition.
This dude is a warrior of the “that’s problematic” media.
“Getting a chance to tell their side of the story” is problematic.
It’s important to trust media institutions instead.
"Crucially what I couldn't do was hate her" is a bit of a wild statement. I think it is good that we get a chance to listen to people even from the fringes of society or "grotesque" opinions because transparency is key to exposing them. I don't think this video gives the average person enough credit, it should be our duty to research something we have strong opinions on and not blindly trust what we see.
Joe Rogan invites both the left and the right. He also invites scientists and people he disagrees with. That makes his show very interesting.
The biggest problem with him is that he gives a very big platform to people who spread conspiracy theories and misinformation, and barely pushes back against them a lot of the time.
Being honest, conspiracies are fun. There are people who listen to conspiracies not for believing it but for entertainment, like me. @@FinneasJedidiah
@@FinneasJedidiahthere is no problem. You have a problem.
@@FinneasJedidiah Can we not trust people to make decisions on their own? What is the "right" opinion anyways?
He's developed a skill to keep him from eye rolling when a guest says what's absolutely BS.
I've learned a lot of things from Joe's podcast that completely changed my life. Better sleep, doing yoga, meditating, healthy eating, all stuff I picked up from his guests. I'm turning 40 soon and I feel better physically and my mind is sharper than when I was 20.
Any recommendations on specific guests which you consider valuable?
@@jirkajindra11it’s pretty obvious (to anyone but Johnny Harris team) that there are stupid dumb convos he’s not invested in and then there are stimulating or insightful conversations. Everyone knows which Jones is.
@@jirkajindra11 Dr. Rhoda Patrick, David Goggins, and David Choe.
Have you ever considered to read books?
@@82MrKanistercant read a book while working lol
Lol u just reconfirmed why i dont need to sit through a 2 hour podcast
Joe doesn't call his podcast news but an experience, that said, most major news sources are bias or twist the facts and those who watch don't fact check. I don't mind controversial guests because it allows me either to validate, fact check or throw away my pre-conceived bias....and we all have them.
should've been titled "Why i'm wrong about Joe Rogan" lol
I believe any person who has the ability to hold nuances in their mind, would understand that the show is not supposed to be factual (which Joe himself consistently states) but rather a discussion of ideas. We should learn to listen to people talk and not go batshit crazy for hearing things that do not align with our views. A casual discussion podcast should not be the place where people look for scientifically accurate discourse.
This podcast has allowed me to get to listen to so many people i would never have given the time of the day. It allowed me to understand my own perspective on their opinions and see the reasons for theirs (again not agree with them but better understand their pov and reasonings).
And at this day and age of shutting down opposing opinions, it feels like a breath of fresh air.
Beautifully put.
100% mate, I could not agree more.
Well said! I don’t like the idea that we need a gate keeper to decide what I can and can’t listen to. Let me hear both sides and let me make my own opinion about the topic. I think that’s why most people don’t trust major news outlets.
Absolutely spot on there. I’ve heard plenty of great information on his podcast that, when verified as true, has been useful to me. The opposite is also true, and that depends almost entirely on the guest that’s present in any given episode. Some guests come on with hard-hitting facts, some come on with outright lies, some come on just simply as misinformed human beings.
Like you said, people need to be able to hear discourse that goes against their personal beliefs without having an absolute conniption fit. Ideological diversity is arguably the most important kind of diversity for a healthy, well-rounded society.
100%
I'm new here I'm glad I finally found you I'll do what I can to help I can probably afford the poster right now but after watching your video on the economy and recessions, yeah I'm struggling, but after watching this video on Joe Rogan who I dislike but now I have a much better understanding of his brand. So I'm willing to do what I can buy buying one of your world posters. Thank you for doing this and I look forward to listening to more of your content
The value of Rogan is to let people talk and value for him is to have interesting conversations. That is all.
"Sometimes the best way to combat bad speech is to let that bad speech play out and let good speech overwhelm it with good logic and reason and a better argument."
This is the way to go Joe. The other ways have way worse outcomes.
you just said it, 'sometimes' only sometime. But most of the time, what happens is people creates bubble with same ideas they get influenced with. Social media platform adds fuel in those ideas, showing same narrative again and again. So we must confront when someone comes onto the show that has millions of reach and blatantly lies about what he/she is saying.
Johney seams to be trying to intelligently and intellectually silence / pressure joe from interviewing anyone who is a big No No by the MSM. If you are smart you can catch what I’m saying. Very sus
People have the right to listen to BS and enjoy some fantasy stories. No one said or thinks everything that comes on joe is correct, but we expect entertainment and watching the art of discussion
@@aseemlimbu7672 Social media is a group of people who just want their beliefs being confirmed not challenged, like seriously I watch tiktoks of an obviously conservative guy who I sometimes disagree prove with data sheets and facts that global warming is real, guess what? mfs still don't accept it despite of all of the facts, they think this a matter of beliefs. We need to listen to other people, the intelligent ones.
that's how bolsonaro became known. Going to gossip tv programs because his ideas were controversial and got them viewership. Now see the bad thing happened since then
As someone who is clearly more on the right side of the political spectrum (here in Europe though), and having watched both Joe and Johnny since the beginning. Joe inviting these crazy and controversial guests has pulled me more to the center of the political spectrum than anything else in my life. Although I agree with 80% of what you have said in this video, I really disagree with not inviting certain guests because of what they say. As long as there is an overall balance between crazy and facts, I think this is a healthy thing. It helps me sort out who is actually crazy, and who is making a good point despite it maybe being "controversial".
Well put
Agreed
Sunlight is the best disinfectant for shitty ideas.
I completely disagree with Johnny Harris on the idea that people need to be silenced based on shitty beliefs.
Problem is, Joe doesn't confront some things he should. Alex Jones talking about alien ambassadors and government conspiracies is crazy and Joe either did not want to, or did not know how to, properly reason with him. Maybe people like Alex Jones cannot be reasoned with, such is the nature of the conspiranoic mind, maybe... But then, if there is no reason in the debate, why bring him on the show?
Fully agree with you, mate. I feel like this tends to be the stance of the less vocal (twitter or YT comments, etc) crowd. Perhaps I am wrong, but I feel like this idea of uninhibited discourse being a good thing perhaps appeals most to folks that don't care to engage in inane heated debates on the internet. And perhaps that's most people.
You know, I subscribed, what an amazing journalism you’re doing!
This is exactly why I like JRE it makes everyone REAL the dehumanizing of people we don’t agree with is bad for our society.
johnny harris has shown his true colors as a grifter
deep
He's gonna start his right wing grift next
that CIA funding running dry
@@BPrimeTimeL LOL - hope you don't mind if I borrow that line in the future...
I feel like I've learned more about Johnny Harris than about Joe Rogan from this video 😂
100% 😂
YEP
Agreed. I've unsubscribed 😅what a joke of a take
Great take..so true 🔥
@@johng0omurrand this is why you are the problem. You like him and what he puts out but in this video he has a different view to you so you’re unsubscribing? Very mature.
I appreciate your willingness to explore and present all the arguments both the good and the bad. It's something quite rare in today's discourse and something that I personally struggle with when forming an opinion; for me it's either black or white (unconsciously). But some of the things you said made me realize that it's a flawed way of thinking and I have to work on challenging it. Who knew that a video about Joe Rogan could make me reevaluate the way I approach forming an opinion? lol
I was just thinking the same thing! Recently I’ve been thinking about how media can be really dividing bc so much of media, whether it’s social media or the news or whatever, thrives on controversy and anger. I’ve been trying to become more aware of how much I engage with controversy-bate on social media because I’m tired of the algorithm feeding me things that will make me upset like opposing political opinions and such. I’m on a rant lol but anyway I think we would all benefit so much more from making an effort to really understand each other and see the layers and complexities of each side of an argument, and it’s really refreshing to see that
When he had Gavin on nobody knew what the proudboys were
I like the part where Johnny says he doesnt like the idea that you should expect the viewer to fact check what you say, you should just speak the truth. That comes with a very scary idea that we must trust everything the news, media, influencers and government tell us. Which is counter intuitive to the whole argument made by Johnny. While I do trust Johnny is doing the work to make sure his videos are factually accurate it does not mean we should blindly trust everything we see. In a perfect world nobody would skew facts to fit their narrative but that just isn't the world we live in. Great video either way.
I mean, he does do "fact-checking" a lot. Albeit it is on the fly by design, the podcast only works by having a flowing impromptu conversation.
The funniest thing is that his next video which was posted today is about how the President of U.S.A lied to start a war
I don't think he's saying that we shouldn't expect people to fact check everything. He's saying that people just don't and expecting that they will or do is maybe counter productive in some ways.
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Especially after viewing several of his videos and and especially this one knowing that he is a leftist liberal. That tells me (as I've already seen) he has an agenda also.
He's definitely better at not being overly blatant about it but it's still there. Also being associated with Vox at one time tells me a lot also. But like he has said we're human and we should be able to have a right to speak.... whether I agree or not.
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I actually lost respect for Johnny in this video. If it takes him this long to realise that Joe is not a far-right personality, then I am sorry to tell you all that he was living in an ecochamber, and now I am wondering what else he blindly believes.
18:20 love how you cut out his explanation of what the proud boys are so you can give us your unbiased opinion instead :) /s
Very disappointing, it was a verbatim msm explanation of what Proud Boys were/are. What was the Rosanne clip supposed to represent at the end of the Proud Boys bit, it was weird and made no sense. She has nothing to do with them and her “canceling” was stupid and ridiculous.
I almost skipped this episode because I thought this was a going to be another JRE hit piece, i was pleasantly surprised by how balanced and nuanced it ended up being. Kudos to you and your team.
Just so you know, the most controversial guests are personal friends of Joe. Why does he give Alex a megaphone? Because he's know him for decades lol.
The best way (in my opinion) to find out who has the crazy ideas and the depth of that craziness is to let people talk. That’s one reason why freedom of speech is important. It’s how we learn from each other. Fact-checking is critically important with news and journalism, but that’s not what Joe does. He’s a forum for people to make up their own minds. That’s a great thing. Yes, many guests on his show spew things I think of as lies, falsehoods, or even hate, but I appreciate that I am being given the respect to make up my own mind about what these things are. The news media tells you what to believe. That’s not enough for a lot of people. We like to think for ourselves. I’m glad Joe offers a forum for ideas. I’ve learned a lot about people and ideas from his show.
I don't have time to check facts unfortunately.
@@shivaunt71 Neither do the "fact checkers"
@@shivaunt71are you saying you therefore rely on others to tell you what to believe? Fact checkers can only go on available information, in turn if information is being sensored, then how can what is presented from fact checkers be "facts"? I think it is best to let both sides speak and each individual decide for themselves, whether it be through their own experiences, knowledge, or expertise. Itherwise we run the risk of not being exposed to full truths and weaken our critical thinking skills.
This is why critical thinking is so important. I applaud anyone who wishes to actually find out the way things work for themselves, but you have to be open-minded and fact check things yourself and be prepared to do a lot of research if you actually want to end up with a reasonable understanding of any topic. Assumptions can help us get through life without becoming experts in everything which is impossible, but its critical to actually understand nuance in debates if you want to have an opinion worth listening to and scary how many people just make assumptions on the fly about decisions / policies which can have resounding impacts for thousands if not millions of people.
I somewhat find it earnest that he supports his view from factoids off the top of his head, instead of trying to artificially create an 'air-tight' argument. He doesn't directly imply everything he utters is absolute fact. Modern times allow us to fact check... well after the fact. I think that's a great opportunity to collectively get a clue of possible cognitive dissonances surrounding the topic.
I believe the strongest attribute of Joe is the fact he NEVER takes a moral high ground in any conversation. This opens up possibilities for people to talk. When guests give good takes: good. When guests make bad takes: good, because then you'll learn to listen to people better and it's a skill we all would benefit to learn (as Joe's friend and fellow podcaster Lex Friedman says: to steelman the case).
No matter how stupid people are, listening is the MOST BASIC prerequisite to human communication and somehow larger media corpos forget how to simply... Talk. When interviewers disagree with their guests they just cut them off and vice versa which means two people are screaming at each other and not trying to find reason in their talking partner.
Johnny's believe to not give certain people platforms because he genuinely feels like it'll hurt people is noble, but I genuinely believe that'll make a domino effect that'll cause more censorship which'll finalize in something like North Korea's government or worse.
Debates are not decided simply by facts and logic, but also by one's humility, which translates to listening, which translates to being emotionally vulnerable, which leads to an understanding... Or tolerance.
For example, this is my personal belief but the reason why flat earthers are stalwart in their belief is not a cognitive problem, but an emotional problem. When people talk to flat earthers, they treat them like monkeys. Its like a sort of "I am superior, and your believes make me see you as subhuman" typeof attitude we give them that makes flat earthers so stubborn. We don't listen to them, we see them as shit, we scream at them instead of have a conversation with them, of course they don't listen. In their shoes, will we do different?
I don't know if people are reading this or not but I'm just writing this to get a grasp on how I think and feel about this video. Would be cool to have Johnny in JRE tho
I really like this response and it kinda covers everything I'd say about free speech and Joe Rogan's plaform.
This is what I was thinking when Johnny was critiquing Joe for having controversial people on.
Of course he does take the moral high ground lol. Ever heard him talk about transpeople?
@@pulpfictibased joe.
@@amogus1337-tw7wc more like bigoted Joe.
I think what we love about Joe Rogan is that he is unapologetically himself And he’s not afraid to be challenged and open minded enough to listen to people all kinds of people. God save Joe Rogan