Spacers have worked for years. I have used them on carb and tbi set ups and they work. Gains will vary with different cars and trucks. I noticed a huge difference in low rpm and going up hills. Torque more than horsepower.
The general idea I've theoretically concluded is that added length to the intake tract increases low down torque thus the opposite of wider pipes increase power 👍
you will not notice a difference with a spacer.... 1-2 gain with intake mods.... what you will notice is a response difference. a TB spacer is more of a efficiency improvement vs a power improvement.
OK COOl thats sort of what Im investigating if I do one on my V6 Cyclone mustang. Throttle response is a bit slow because of the drive by wire system but when it kicks in its awesome. If i can get it more instantaneous that be great. I know there are electronic modules that can do that but I think a spacer may be a good cheap way to make it a little more responsive.
@@victorciccarone6291 You should look into the JMS PedalMax for your car. I also have drive by wire and the PedalMAX makes a HUGE difference in that low-end lag. Definitely one of the most noticeable, best mods I've done so far.
I'm looking at putting one of these in my 1997 ford ranger xlt. I want better fuel economy and the whistle will be cool. I also want to put a cold air intake into it after the tbs.
Here I’ll save ya 4m, I have a 2014 gt500. Last thing on my list was a little shiny red throttle body spacer that kinda adds .1mpg and .3hp and makes a baby whistle noise, yes they are a scam.
It raises up the throttle body UP from the Hot Intake Manifold so if it's not heating up it can pull colder Air .. it made my Jeep 4.0 more snappy on the throttle so I guess it's a win win
Just think logically about this. How would a few extra centimeters add anything to the performance? With a stock tune, the mass air flow sensor still only pulls in the air it was tuned to bring in. Nothing about this will increase any performance, it’s all placebo effect.
That’s a Myth. If you want more air and power, you need bigger throttle body, bigger intake, bigger heads, bigger cam, bigger exhaust. If you aren’t changing your entire flow system, you’re wasting your time. There’s a reason why going up in horsepower costs thousands, not hundreds. If ONE single part of your flow is smaller, that is the max air that the entire engine will flow. Think I’m wrong? Swap any of the above parts to a smaller one and see what happens on a dyno. Suck air through a straw and pinch the straw.
We put a AFE Billet spacer on my 02 F150 with the 5.4 and the throttle response is smoother,sounds great with my K&N cai and magnaflow xhaust,love the setup.
You’re going to see a difference In weak engine like the v6(anything you do will help). You won’t feel it in a powerful 400hp v8. You’ll feel 8hp in a 200hp v6 before feeling it in an 400hp v8. Also the coyote has charge motion control valves inside the intake manifold(gives the air a swirl already) and Variable camshafts timing that optimizes low end and top end power. Spacers will work best on open runner intake manifold/non technologically advanced engines(old v6, i4, v8s).
Well I mean the old v6 mustang made only 195hp(2004) and 210hp(2005-2010). And a 2003 Vq35de made 280hp in the Z. So the v6s were pretty weak back then.
@@getminesallday24 I didn't buy it. It was my Nanas old car, Then handed down to my sister. She then ran it down and never took care of it and let it sit in the driveway for 2 years. I then needed a car so I dumped a grand into it for parts and am currently using it as my daily driver to get me to work and back. I was 16 when I put it on the road. Do you think I could afford a V8 muscle car? Let alone the insurance being a novice driver... Yeah, Owning a 6 cylinder Charger sucks. But when it's basically a free car you can't be a greedy asshole and turn the offer away when it comes to your first vehicle. It does look pretty sweet though for a first car. Last summer I got bodywork done to it and made it just like brand new. 120,000Km on it and its a 2007.
@@Bubbles....... Take what you can get and work with what you have. Nothing wrong with that. Be proud of your ride. Many can't even afford a 1990 Corolla.
I've seen enough dyno charts on smaller and larger displacement engines showing anywhere from 4-11 or so hp and a very respectable 5-12ft-lbs from just a spacer along with a slight bumpin fuel economy due to the reduction in pumping losses overall...just bought one for $60 so if it gives me anything then hey not bad for $60
@Drew Peacock’s Mustang eh it depends on the platform, again I've seen more than a few examples where it might add a handful of horses that will show up on a dyno 🤷🏾♂️ for $60 it's a good deal
Trial and error is always better ;) It may be hot air, but its far MORE air and less restricting. A tune would be needed regardless, imo, otherwise, the ECU will still have the same air/fuel ratios, no matter how much more air is coming in.
I admit I knew nothing about what you were talking about. Lol. But I still watch. Thanks for the info!!’ Hope you had a great Thanksgiving!! Love ya.. 😊
you can hear the sound if you don't step on the gas hard but a lot of people says it sounds like a turbo and others says supercharge .hope you can clear it off witch sound it makes turbo or supercharge sound with the air raid
That engine looks clean compared to mine!! and my DIY 2001 Grand Marquis GS 4.6L with custom racing stripes, spoiler, and hood scoop... looks pretty sharp and gets some lookers even not polished, buffed, waxed, or washed... I don't have the budget for keeping it detailed, and my health isn't good right now to do anymore myself.
@@BubbaBlueTube I love Grand Marquis still drive my 86 it's in mint condition with 101.058.miles just had to replace elec window relay. i did add an O.D. to the rebuild trans
No they don’t lol. Increasing the diameter of your ENTIRE system increases cfm. I hope you’re joking. If you’re serious, you’re a fucking idiot. Dyno tests have proved this many times.
I think it created a 1/2 a horsepower and maybe one horsepower withorsepower with 8' pounds of torque at the wheel and when you add it with other add on just still pretty good you want that torque at the wheel
Adding a throttle spacer or cold air intake filter does nothing unless if you have it Dino tuned, everyone who says they don't work is because they didn't have it Dyno tuned.
Wrong..... Older Toyotas are known for running rich.. my 5vzfe leaned out by adding a purposefully designed k&n cold air intake.. it even effected the exhaust not and shifting in the transmission
I put a rough country throttle body spacer (for 40 bucks great deal ) on my 2001 jeep grand 4.0 it helped it depeons on your intake and the bend by the tb
An engine bay that is clean all the time just means the car is not driven. Just put a tbs on my sierra 1500. Nothing noticeable but I went in expecting that. Im hoping for a little better fuel milage. Keep driving.
I have to get a new throttle body spacer because I bought my car with one and the Roush cold air is currently touching the coolant reservoir, but I can't find the stock throttle body bolts for a 2006 Mustang GT not even the dealers have them, so I'm getting a thinner spacer
Depends on the car and if the car has a tune (air / fuel ratio tinkered with). It may be hot air, but CAI's are far less restricting than stock and they suck in MORE air. Like I said, it just depends on if the car has a tune, and the type of car / engine.
I put a 30 shot of nitrous oxide on my old bike and you really couldn't feel the difference, so I'm very sure you are not going to feel the 2 or maybe 5 hp you get, now when I switch to the 100 shot well let's just say at 150 in 6th gear it would stand up,
DIRTY ENGINE BAY!!!! Lol, great video and thanks for the info, I may or may not have already gotten and installed a throttle body spacer on my car 😂😅 definitely just gained another subscriber!
Bubba Blue I was looking for more info on the one I installed on my car to see what people’s opinions of them were and your video definitely helped. I’ll definitely check out your new ones then!
@@jcnopal1740 if you read the top comment i was referring to his opinion on the CAI. I know for a fact that a CAI improves throttle response due to the fact that the aftermarket intake tube has a larger diameter than the stock air-box and intake tube would be. Therefor allowing more air to pass through and consequently creating more power and throttle response. More air in = more power being pushed out.
Jc Nopal if you put a cold air intake on your car/truck it is no longer stock. Tune the car on a dyno and it is not bad. Do you have any personal experience with this. Because I have thousands of hours of hands on work.
logic dictates that the vehicle engineers would have designed the intake manifold with the throttle spacer design already in the engine in order to maximize economy and power if such a device was so beneficial. This is a scam. I can understand if this device was expensive to produce and could not be built into the intake manifold itself...but that is not the case. You can easily design it into the throttle connection with literally no extra cost.
@@yes_itselectric Exactly. CAI's tend to improve HP and T, but we don't see them as stock applications. Take the exhaust manifolds for example. Headers are far better for the engine and performance, but again, its all about passing regulations and emissions.
For the 100000000000, a dyno is a way to actually accurate info & to pass it on, not a buttdyno! All this modding & no dyno sheets to proof are useless..
Anyone who thinks a 2 in spacer, thats ribbed for youre pleasure, is going to do anything except create drag in the intake is delusional. Dont waste youre money if anything buy a better intake manifold and throttle body/carb and you wont need a spacer. And if you just have to have one, buy a nitrous kit so itll at least do something except make guys laugh at you😂
They are absolutely 110% worthless 😂 but if you guys truly have done your testing for your self and believe otherwise.. id whip some up on the cnc machine for you and charge you less than 50% of what these other guys are charging. Maybe you guys can convince the nhra to start using them lol 😂😂😂😂 . Hell i might just make one for my pressure cleaner.. maybe it will put out more psi!! Get the floors even whiter lol 😅😅
I think throttle spacer is a boost to help a cold air intake.... not a stock intake
i mean even with cold air intake that bih should go at least boosts 20 hp
Spacers have worked for years. I have used them on carb and tbi set ups and they work. Gains will vary with different cars and trucks. I noticed a huge difference in low rpm and going up hills. Torque more than horsepower.
I am not sure they do anything for direct injection like his car... they are proven on carb and tbi because of the air fuel mixture
Post your dyno results please
The general idea I've theoretically concluded is that added length to the intake tract increases low down torque thus the opposite of wider pipes increase power 👍
First off, if NASCAR has restrictions on spacers, they must give an advantage.
Those are carburetor engines though. What about Fuel Injection, Direct Injection, etc...?
@@MidwestMotor they are NOT carbureted, they've been EFI since 2012.
True bud
they work on an NA engine...
i don't know about power, but definitely fuel economy increased, and yeah a little whistle..
you will not notice a difference with a spacer.... 1-2 gain with intake mods.... what you will notice is a response difference. a TB spacer is more of a efficiency improvement vs a power improvement.
I agree
THANK YOU
OK COOl thats sort of what Im investigating if I do one on my V6 Cyclone mustang. Throttle response is a bit slow because of the drive by wire system but when it kicks in its awesome. If i can get it more instantaneous that be great. I know there are electronic modules that can do that but I think a spacer may be a good cheap way to make it a little more responsive.
@@victorciccarone6291 You should look into the JMS PedalMax for your car. I also have drive by wire and the PedalMAX makes a HUGE difference in that low-end lag. Definitely one of the most noticeable, best mods I've done so far.
I'm looking at putting one of these in my 1997 ford ranger xlt. I want better fuel economy and the whistle will be cool. I also want to put a cold air intake into it after the tbs.
Here I’ll save ya 4m, I have a 2014 gt500. Last thing on my list was a little shiny red throttle body spacer that kinda adds .1mpg and .3hp and makes a baby whistle noise, yes they are a scam.
It raises up the throttle body UP from the Hot Intake Manifold so if it's not heating up it can pull colder Air .. it made my Jeep 4.0 more snappy on the throttle so I guess it's a win win
Just think logically about this. How would a few extra centimeters add anything to the performance? With a stock tune, the mass air flow sensor still only pulls in the air it was tuned to bring in. Nothing about this will increase any performance, it’s all placebo effect.
Mass air flow sensor senses how much air is coming in, it doesn't pull air in.
Huh??
That’s what she said
You need to up gear your intake manifold to increase your engines air intake capacity
That’s a Myth. If you want more air and power, you need bigger throttle body, bigger intake, bigger heads, bigger cam, bigger exhaust. If you aren’t changing your entire flow system, you’re wasting your time. There’s a reason why going up in horsepower costs thousands, not hundreds. If ONE single part of your flow is smaller, that is the max air that the entire engine will flow. Think I’m wrong? Swap any of the above parts to a smaller one and see what happens on a dyno. Suck air through a straw and pinch the straw.
m k you’re Completely wrong, here’s dyno proof that ported upper and lower intakes improve hp. th-cam.com/video/QBsmS2_TXwQ/w-d-xo.html
We put a AFE Billet spacer on my 02 F150 with the 5.4 and the throttle response is smoother,sounds great with my K&N cai and magnaflow xhaust,love the setup.
My buddy put one on his truck and he said he noticed a difference too. Maybe trucks respond a little different
You’re going to see a difference In weak engine like the v6(anything you do will help). You won’t feel it in a powerful 400hp v8. You’ll feel 8hp in a 200hp v6 before feeling it in an 400hp v8. Also the coyote has charge motion control valves inside the intake manifold(gives the air a swirl already) and Variable camshafts timing that optimizes low end and top end power. Spacers will work best on open runner intake manifold/non technologically advanced engines(old v6, i4, v8s).
Well I mean the old v6 mustang made only 195hp(2004) and 210hp(2005-2010). And a 2003 Vq35de made 280hp in the Z. So the v6s were pretty weak back then.
So will this add horsepower to my 2.7Litre dodge charger?
@@Bubbles....... da hell 2.7 liter charger are you serious why even buy it
@@getminesallday24 I didn't buy it. It was my Nanas old car, Then handed down to my sister. She then ran it down and never took care of it and let it sit in the driveway for 2 years. I then needed a car so I dumped a grand into it for parts and am currently using it as my daily driver to get me to work and back. I was 16 when I put it on the road. Do you think I could afford a V8 muscle car? Let alone the insurance being a novice driver... Yeah, Owning a 6 cylinder Charger sucks. But when it's basically a free car you can't be a greedy asshole and turn the offer away when it comes to your first vehicle. It does look pretty sweet though for a first car. Last summer I got bodywork done to it and made it just like brand new. 120,000Km on it and its a 2007.
@@Bubbles....... Take what you can get and work with what you have. Nothing wrong with that. Be proud of your ride. Many can't even afford a 1990 Corolla.
I've seen enough dyno charts on smaller and larger displacement engines showing anywhere from 4-11 or so hp and a very respectable 5-12ft-lbs from just a spacer along with a slight bumpin fuel economy due to the reduction in pumping losses overall...just bought one for $60 so if it gives me anything then hey not bad for $60
@Drew Peacock’s Mustang eh it depends on the platform, again I've seen more than a few examples where it might add a handful of horses that will show up on a dyno 🤷🏾♂️ for $60 it's a good deal
They help with throttle response and if it whistles it was leaking somewhere lol
Several TBS are designed in a way that they will create a sort of whistle sound when leaning into the accelerator. No leaks lol.
That engine bay need some love lol nice vid man made me rethink about getting a tb spacer
Depends on the engine layout if it increases or how much
... and then again, most also say that cold-air intakes do not work either. Not an argument for or against either, but ...
cold air intake will only draw hot air from the engine unless the airbox is completely sealed off. of if you have the top open, get a ram air hood
Trial and error is always better ;) It may be hot air, but its far MORE air and less restricting. A tune would be needed regardless, imo, otherwise, the ECU will still have the same air/fuel ratios, no matter how much more air is coming in.
I admit I knew nothing about what you were talking about. Lol. But I still watch. Thanks for the info!!’
Hope you had a great Thanksgiving!! Love ya.. 😊
Connie Bradley lol hope you had a great one too! I️ know I️ did lol
you can hear the sound if you don't step on the gas hard but a lot of people says it sounds like a turbo and others says supercharge .hope you can clear it off witch sound it makes turbo or supercharge sound with the air raid
Yeah I know what you mean my 2005 was the same way.
That engine looks clean compared to mine!! and my DIY 2001 Grand Marquis GS 4.6L with custom racing stripes, spoiler, and hood scoop... looks pretty sharp and gets some lookers even not polished, buffed, waxed, or washed... I don't have the budget for keeping it detailed, and my health isn't good right now to do anymore myself.
I have driven a grab marquis and they can get up and go! Plus a super comfy ride. Feels like you’re on a cloud
A grand marquis with racing stripes and a spoiler..is this a ricer joke?
@@BubbaBlueTube I love Grand Marquis still drive my 86 it's in mint condition with 101.058.miles just had to replace elec window relay. i did add an O.D. to the rebuild trans
I drive a 2001 Mercury grand marquis too and I’m addin my throttle body spacer this week
Spacers add more cfm that's how u get power
No they don’t lol. Increasing the diameter of your ENTIRE system increases cfm. I hope you’re joking. If you’re serious, you’re a fucking idiot. Dyno tests have proved this many times.
It looks good in there if anything. I would match colors
I think it created a 1/2 a horsepower and maybe one horsepower withorsepower with 8' pounds of torque at the wheel and when you add it with other add on just still pretty good you want that torque at the wheel
Adding a throttle spacer or cold air intake filter does nothing unless if you have it Dino tuned, everyone who says they don't work is because they didn't have it Dyno tuned.
Wrong..... Older Toyotas are known for running rich.. my 5vzfe leaned out by adding a purposefully designed k&n cold air intake.. it even effected the exhaust not and shifting in the transmission
I put a rough country throttle body spacer (for 40 bucks great deal ) on my 2001 jeep grand 4.0 it helped it depeons on your intake and the bend by the tb
Post the dyno results please.
I have never seen any gains that wouldn't be within the plus minus.
Next biggest scam next to a cold air intake.
An engine bay that is clean all the time just means the car is not driven. Just put a tbs on my sierra 1500. Nothing noticeable but I went in expecting that. Im hoping for a little better fuel milage. Keep driving.
I have to get a new throttle body spacer because I bought my car with one and the Roush cold air is currently touching the coolant reservoir, but I can't find the stock throttle body bolts for a 2006 Mustang GT not even the dealers have them, so I'm getting a thinner spacer
Hope this was helpful!
i read where cold air intakes are a waste of money,all they do is suck hot air in..not really forced cooler air from the outside
Depends on the car and if the car has a tune (air / fuel ratio tinkered with). It may be hot air, but CAI's are far less restricting than stock and they suck in MORE air. Like I said, it just depends on if the car has a tune, and the type of car / engine.
The only thing they’re good for is trying to hide a nitrous shot
The reason i use it! Adds a nice inlet to screw in your nozzle for open throttle shots
Looks like a great paper weight!
You also have to put in the fact that there is a certain way that spacer goes
I cant speak for the spacer but a cold air intake improves hp better sounding exhaust
I agree
On carb engines yes, on NA TB cars and stock manifold, NO.
I agree
That whistle was probably your transmission failing 😂
Yeah you need big clamp pressure when u start modifying. That’s why
The Air raid and AFE throttle body spacers work the best
Nice vid! A lapel mic would help a lot with all that thunder ur riding on! 😂
Yeah I stopped recording while driving because that lmao but I am gonna get a lapel Mike. I like my long tubes and outlaws too much to take em off
I put a 30 shot of nitrous oxide on my old bike and you really couldn't feel the difference, so I'm very sure you are not going to feel the 2 or maybe 5 hp you get, now when I switch to the 100 shot well let's just say at 150 in 6th gear it would stand up,
I felt the acceleration more than anything. Like as soon as I stepped on the gas it was more reactive
30hp on a bike is like a 150 shot in a car..if you didn’t feel it you probably did not have it installed correctly
Spacer..goes between throttle body and I take manifold...not intake charge pipe...lol
That's where he has it big guy. Not sure what you're looking at.
Where can I just get longer throttle body bolts..I have a throttle body spacer but need longer bolts like 1 half inch longer
DIRTY ENGINE BAY!!!! Lol, great video and thanks for the info, I may or may not have already gotten and installed a throttle body spacer on my car 😂😅 definitely just gained another subscriber!
Older video of mine but I appreciate it!! Hopefully you like he newer ones I’ve been posting lol
Bubba Blue I was looking for more info on the one I installed on my car to see what people’s opinions of them were and your video definitely helped. I’ll definitely check out your new ones then!
Spacer add more volume
Some cars / trucks it does little more or less but it looks cool if it's in a visable area
Put it on a Dino it didn't really create horsepower but it created 8' pounds of torque at the wheel
*Dyno
Is it going to destroy your plastic intake manifold?
When you install a tbs do you need to tune anything or install an aftermarket part to make it work in the car itself?
No you dont need a tune, but just like with any other mod, getting a tune will help get the most out of it.
I believe the best thing to do is get a jet throttle body
Wow just to let you know it was all in your head because you would not notice the difference with a cold air intake because the hp gain is so low
Throttle Response my guys
@@SgtS0apy how is a throttle body spacer going to help throttle response?
Please explain
@@jcnopal1740 if you read the top comment i was referring to his opinion on the CAI. I know for a fact that a CAI improves throttle response due to the fact that the aftermarket intake tube has a larger diameter than the stock air-box and intake tube would be. Therefor allowing more air to pass through and consequently creating more power and throttle response. More air in = more power being pushed out.
@@SgtS0apy I think you're having a placebo effect bud
Cold air intakes dont do much, and they're bad for stock cars
Jc Nopal if you put a cold air intake on your car/truck it is no longer stock. Tune the car on a dyno and it is not bad. Do you have any personal experience with this. Because I have thousands of hours of hands on work.
a cold air intake does nothing for a NA car, if you felt a “power” increase it was either the spacer or placebo
Any check engine light on?
Nope
logic dictates that the vehicle engineers would have designed the intake manifold with the throttle spacer design already in the engine in order to maximize economy and power if such a device was so beneficial. This is a scam. I can understand if this device was expensive to produce and could not be built into the intake manifold itself...but that is not the case. You can easily design it into the throttle connection with literally no extra cost.
Engineers design the vehicle to at pass emissions…. So I’m sure there could be improvements. Just not with this mod alone.
@@yes_itselectric Exactly. CAI's tend to improve HP and T, but we don't see them as stock applications. Take the exhaust manifolds for example. Headers are far better for the engine and performance, but again, its all about passing regulations and emissions.
For the 100000000000, a dyno is a way to actually accurate info & to pass it on, not a buttdyno!
All this modding & no dyno sheets to proof are useless..
Great video! Very informative
Always try to be. Thanks dude!!
And how exactly does it increase airflow or "cfm" without any moving parts?
some can smooth out turbulence by twisting the air but could also cost power in some engines
Damn that was a dirty ass engine boy you better clean that engine
I’ve cleaned it since then lol
Anyone who thinks a 2 in spacer, thats ribbed for youre pleasure, is going to do anything except create drag in the intake is delusional. Dont waste youre money if anything buy a better intake manifold and throttle body/carb and you wont need a spacer. And if you just have to have one, buy a nitrous kit so itll at least do something except make guys laugh at you😂
So is it worth for my 13 armada
If you want a little more torque yes
You need headers and a tune!
Done and done
Works good o. The 3.5 ecoboost
hey thank you for this video , but please could you give a conclusion for me , i buy this for my GMC SIERRA 1500 2016 or no need ?!
Buy it from a place that allows returns so you can figure out yourself lol. Dude doesn't drive the type of truck you have, so how would he know?
Yes, they are a scam
Look into the 18-19 GT intake.
I have been lol
I guess a mustang owner would believe a TB spacer would accomplish anything on a DFI engine.
Great video!
They are absolutely 110% worthless 😂 but if you guys truly have done your testing for your self and believe otherwise.. id whip some up on the cnc machine for you and charge you less than 50% of what these other guys are charging. Maybe you guys can convince the nhra to start using them lol 😂😂😂😂 . Hell i might just make one for my pressure cleaner.. maybe it will put out more psi!! Get the floors even whiter lol 😅😅
So no proof or facts to back up your opinion.
takingu2skoo looking at Dino graphs even backs it up. Maybe 1hp at the most? Yeah totally worth 100 bucks....
tpi