I also use the same Motive Industries brake bleeder and should buy the Euro Billet Adaptor which looks much better than the original plastic adaptor. I buy two quarts of brake fluid when I flush my brake systems.
Amazing video! I know this has to happen on my Stelvio and I feel PRETTY confident that I might still need to take it to the dealer to get it done. 🤣🤣🤣
Just the last part, you need to bleed the line at least 3 times each caliper using the pedal break! It will give you 100% success to avoid any air in the system.
nice video, love the step by step walkthrough. next one pls on how to fix tecnico alloy kerb rash and colour match ! although I hope you haven't kerbed any of yours yet of course!
@@autofanaticcars it's the colour match that's the killer. Paint code is not available. I kerbed my third alloy, about 2 inches, last night - but I don't want to send the whole wheel off to be blasted and coated... looking forward to the vid !
Phil, not sure if you’ll see this but the “…more” button on your product links for several of your older videos doesn’t work. It connects to the product link next to it but the drop down menu doesn’t open. I’m about to flush my brake fluid so re-watching your videos. Thanks for all of your content as usual!!
You must test great Tarox Road-Race and Endless S-Four ( DD ) and RF-650 brake fluids ( the best for racing ). AP brake fluid, Stoptech brake fuid and Mobil brake fluid are good too. Be careful some brake fluids are very aggressive with brakes system.
I’m going to be changing my brake fluid in my 2019 Alfa Giulia. When I use the power bleeder and put in 40 pounds is that enough to open up the ABS module and flush out the brake fluid from the module itself. Thanks Phil for a great video.
Hi Mark follow this video exact and youll be fine do not over pressure the Motive because you can cause the hose and cap on the master cylinder to explode and you will have a dangerous mess of brake fluid all over the cars paint and engine bay which can remove and damage the paint. Do each caliper one by one and check the Motive PSI and charge up each time to the levels I show here and youll get a perfect flush and bleed. take your time it is easy to do.
when I did my Stelvio which is only 3 years old I could not believe the debris that came out of the system maybe the IBS causes more wear due to higher line pressure but in 35 years working on cars i never once sayw fluid so dirty in such short time unless it was in a vintage jalopy from the 1950s
@@autofanaticcars perhaps that’s why Alfa recommends getting it flushed out every four years I believe? But looking at it, should be more frequently flushed out just for that piece of mind.
Have you had any squeaky pedal using the ATE Typ 200? I've read lots of reviews and forum posts stating the ATE Typ 200 can cause a squeaky brake pedal - something regarding the master cylinder and the viscosity. I was debating between this and the Bosch ESI6 fluid but I can't make my mind up.
Greatly appreciated. I'm not interested in paying the dealer for a brake flush if avoidable. If you document you shouldn't have any warranty issues right?
this is regular service like oil changes, tires, brake pads etc so should not pose any warranty related concerns. i only use warranty for complex expensive stuff that needs replacing on any new car since parts can be very costly to do on your own.
I'd be nervous about installing that Schrader valve. Could be a point of failure in an otherwise airtight system. Depending on the car, you're really only looking at 1 bar of pressure. That's just a handful of pumps with a small bleeder like that. In their larger units, like ones used for fluid transfer, they do install the Schrader valve from the factory. If you really want to get technical, you could fasten the compressor directly to the bleeder with some sort of pressure regulator. Probably overkill but you have some nice cars.
this method is the safest and easiest DIY on these newer cars with the ABS system since you need more PSI than normal. The Motive container is really strong It can handle over 100PSI so with the air valve to charge per caliper it is perfectly safe and easy for any DIYer to do. The hand pump limits the pressure you can manually force into the container based on the seal so the air valve lets you cheat that from the equation and use the container as a pressure vessel.
@@autofanaticcars Ah I see. It was unclear to me the need for the mod. But if you're saying it's to test the PSI limits then for sure. I have a bunch of Motiv products. They're great.
no dash codes on my 2018 and 2019 all good to go, codes pop up if you run the system dry or if your pads are so worn out and you push the caliper pistons in all the way then you need Multiscan to clear and reset but it is easy
@@autofanaticcars Mine 17 QV, last time I performed an on-track bleed with my friend help me press the brake, all warnings appeared on dash. Might be the worn out pads, I am not sure. After that I used bleeder only and no problem since then.
yes you can not press the brake pedal to bleed like old fashioned days lol and yes if pads badly worn also cause codes, bleeder is easier, cleaner and safer
Do you have to disconnect the battery? I know these cars are supposed to be put into seevice mode depending on which service is performed, and a diy way to do that is by disconnecting the battery otherwise you get a christmas tree on your dashboard lol but did you do anything before the brake bleed?
What year QV is this? I'm planning to do this on my 2018, but stuff I'm reading says anything newer than a 2017 needs specialty tools to clear all the dashboard lights that come up after this is done.
@@autofanaticcars I appreciate the fast reply! Looking into getting this done tomorrow. Did you put the car into brake maintenance mode through infotainment and do the IBS/negative battery terminal disconnect beforehand?
i have the Multiscan diagnostics so you most likely just hit some prompts to put the car into brake service mode with the ABS. Not sure how a dealer does it but most owners do not have the diagnostic tools so this method is another option for anyone doing it on their own.
Seems like you can get the same result by using a container with tubing end attached tightly to caliper bleeder screw submerged in fluid and pumping the brake pedal to fill container with old fluid. Using a board or some other object under pedal so it doesn't go any further than you normally depress it so there's no damage to the master cylinder. And of course keep the master cylinder topped off. A lot less complicated than using that motive tool bleeder.
wrong you can not bleed this car using that archaic method there is no pedal pushrod that goes into the master cylinder it is all electronically controlled and pumping brakes is a horrible solution even on older cars because you can side load the piston and cause other issues. pressure and reverse bleeding are the proper ways to bleed brakes perfectly every time. Motive Power flush and bleed is a simple 1 hour job by yourself with no mess or fuss.
@@autofanaticcars forgot you have that brake by wire system but I stand by my described method as being easier and just as effective. The two person bleeding method has been used for decades as well with great results. Not sure what you mean by side loading the piston by I respect your opinion nevertheless.
Phil making it look easy. He’s been doing that for years. I can barely replace my wiper blades but I enjoy watching this stuff
Thanks for all the great videos, tips and attention to detail Phil! I’ll be doing this to my wife’s Cayenne soon.
a proper brake service on a proper beast , by a proper mindset Auto fanatic :)
Love your attention to detail, great channel 👍🏻
Thank you very much!
I also use the same Motive Industries brake bleeder and should buy the Euro Billet Adaptor which looks much better than the original plastic adaptor. I buy two quarts of brake fluid when I flush my brake systems.
Amazing video! I know this has to happen on my Stelvio and I feel PRETTY confident that I might still need to take it to the dealer to get it done. 🤣🤣🤣
if you do not have tools or experience doing this then yes go to the dealer
Yeah...brakes come in handy when you've gotta slow down quick, huh Phil 😋😅
Just the last part, you need to bleed the line at least 3 times each caliper using the pedal break! It will give you 100% success to avoid any air in the system.
how u can bleed the electronic control brake with the pedal? like disconnect the battery?
nice video, love the step by step walkthrough. next one pls on how to fix tecnico alloy kerb rash and colour match ! although I hope you haven't kerbed any of yours yet of course!
curb rash is easy to fix i need to do a video one day on that next time a customer ruins wheel and asks me to fix it.
@@autofanaticcars it's the colour match that's the killer. Paint code is not available. I kerbed my third alloy, about 2 inches, last night - but I don't want to send the whole wheel off to be blasted and coated... looking forward to the vid !
Great tipps and your videos are help always. But a another question : Where ist the Fuelfilter by Quadrifoglio? Can you maybe make a new video!
Do you have electric brake booster? intersting that you can use pressure to open the ABS valve without electronics....
Great video and tips Phil, as always.
Glad you enjoyed it
Phil, not sure if you’ll see this but the “…more” button on your product links for several of your older videos doesn’t work. It connects to the product link next to it but the drop down menu doesn’t open.
I’m about to flush my brake fluid so re-watching your videos.
Thanks for all of your content as usual!!
You must test great Tarox Road-Race and Endless S-Four ( DD ) and RF-650 brake fluids ( the best for racing ).
AP brake fluid, Stoptech brake fuid and Mobil brake fluid are good too. Be careful some brake fluids are very aggressive with brakes system.
Could you tell why you don't follow the wheel sequence procedure from the manual. Is there any valid reason. Thanks.
Hi,during the operation the handbrake is activated?
I’m going to be changing my brake fluid in my 2019 Alfa Giulia. When I use the power bleeder and put in 40 pounds is that enough to open up the ABS module and flush out the brake fluid from the module itself. Thanks Phil for a great video.
Hi Mark follow this video exact and youll be fine do not over pressure the Motive because you can cause the hose and cap on the master cylinder to explode and you will have a dangerous mess of brake fluid all over the cars paint and engine bay which can remove and damage the paint. Do each caliper one by one and check the Motive PSI and charge up each time to the levels I show here and youll get a perfect flush and bleed. take your time it is easy to do.
Thank you, Phil for responding back. Did my brake flush today as per your video everything went well…
Good to know how to do it properly, saved for when I do mine 👍
when I did my Stelvio which is only 3 years old I could not believe the debris that came out of the system maybe the IBS causes more wear due to higher line pressure but in 35 years working on cars i never once sayw fluid so dirty in such short time unless it was in a vintage jalopy from the 1950s
@@autofanaticcars perhaps that’s why Alfa recommends getting it flushed out every four years I believe? But looking at it, should be more frequently flushed out just for that piece of mind.
I now would suggest once a year if you drive 7-15k miles a year
Great instructional video, thank you!
Slightly off topic question: what set do you use to jack the car? I love the supports holding it.
Thanks!
Hi i use two AC Hydraulic floor jacks made in Denmark to lift the entire vehicle on the stands shown. takes me 10 minutes by myself to do it.
@@autofanaticcarslink for the stands?
Have you had any squeaky pedal using the ATE Typ 200? I've read lots of reviews and forum posts stating the ATE Typ 200 can cause a squeaky brake pedal - something regarding the master cylinder and the viscosity. I was debating between this and the Bosch ESI6 fluid but I can't make my mind up.
Greatly appreciated. I'm not interested in paying the dealer for a brake flush if avoidable. If you document you shouldn't have any warranty issues right?
this is regular service like oil changes, tires, brake pads etc so should not pose any warranty related concerns. i only use warranty for complex expensive stuff that needs replacing on any new car since parts can be very costly to do on your own.
Phil, what size the hole for the valve? 🙏 thx
Any change in brake feel after the job?
zero, if the car had a pushrod with typical master cylinder you would notice a firmer pedal but brake by wire no difference.
I'd be nervous about installing that Schrader valve. Could be a point of failure in an otherwise airtight system. Depending on the car, you're really only looking at 1 bar of pressure. That's just a handful of pumps with a small bleeder like that. In their larger units, like ones used for fluid transfer, they do install the Schrader valve from the factory.
If you really want to get technical, you could fasten the compressor directly to the bleeder with some sort of pressure regulator. Probably overkill but you have some nice cars.
this method is the safest and easiest DIY on these newer cars with the ABS system since you need more PSI than normal. The Motive container is really strong It can handle over 100PSI so with the air valve to charge per caliper it is perfectly safe and easy for any DIYer to do. The hand pump limits the pressure you can manually force into the container based on the seal so the air valve lets you cheat that from the equation and use the container as a pressure vessel.
@@autofanaticcars Ah I see. It was unclear to me the need for the mod. But if you're saying it's to test the PSI limits then for sure. I have a bunch of Motiv products. They're great.
Great video. Is this the same for Stelvio TI?
Yes same process
Hi, sorry where can I get a car stand like yours?, thanks
Curios what mileage you did yours at? I just changed my break all around on my 19 TI with 50k miles and considering flushing my system.
You should seriously do it at your miles
FYI, use Bleeder only if u want to bleed yourself (at least Giulia QV), otherwise Christmas Tree on dash thx to brake by wire system.
no dash codes on my 2018 and 2019 all good to go, codes pop up if you run the system dry or if your pads are so worn out and you push the caliper pistons in all the way then you need Multiscan to clear and reset but it is easy
@@autofanaticcars Mine 17 QV, last time I performed an on-track bleed with my friend help me press the brake, all warnings appeared on dash. Might be the worn out pads, I am not sure. After that I used bleeder only and no problem since then.
yes you can not press the brake pedal to bleed like old fashioned days lol and yes if pads badly worn also cause codes, bleeder is easier, cleaner and safer
Do you have to disconnect the battery? I know these cars are supposed to be put into seevice mode depending on which service is performed, and a diy way to do that is by disconnecting the battery otherwise you get a christmas tree on your dashboard lol but did you do anything before the brake bleed?
I did not disable my battery when doing this bleed flush.
Lmfao bro 300% of the fluid volume to ‘be sure’. I remember my first time
What year QV is this? I'm planning to do this on my 2018, but stuff I'm reading says anything newer than a 2017 needs specialty tools to clear all the dashboard lights that come up after this is done.
my car was a 2018 so you will not have any issues if you follow my video step by step
@@autofanaticcars I appreciate the fast reply! Looking into getting this done tomorrow. Did you put the car into brake maintenance mode through infotainment and do the IBS/negative battery terminal disconnect beforehand?
How different is the process if I have a scan tool that opens the abs?
i have the Multiscan diagnostics so you most likely just hit some prompts to put the car into brake service mode with the ABS. Not sure how a dealer does it but most owners do not have the diagnostic tools so this method is another option for anyone doing it on their own.
Link to the quick connect fittings? Thx!
I believe Motive sells them on their site or try Mcmaster.com
Seems like you can get the same result by using a container with tubing end attached tightly to caliper bleeder screw submerged in fluid and pumping the brake pedal to fill container with old fluid. Using a board or some other object under pedal so it doesn't go any further than you normally depress it so there's no damage to the master cylinder. And of course keep the master cylinder topped off. A lot less complicated than using that motive tool bleeder.
wrong you can not bleed this car using that archaic method there is no pedal pushrod that goes into the master cylinder it is all electronically controlled and pumping brakes is a horrible solution even on older cars because you can side load the piston and cause other issues. pressure and reverse bleeding are the proper ways to bleed brakes perfectly every time. Motive Power flush and bleed is a simple 1 hour job by yourself with no mess or fuss.
@@autofanaticcars forgot you have that brake by wire system but I stand by my described method as being easier and just as effective. The two person bleeding method has been used for decades as well with great results. Not sure what you mean by side loading the piston by I respect your opinion nevertheless.
Batery was disconected during the yob or not?
no
What size do you drill the whole for the air valve?
Good question, was thinking the same 🤔
How much fluid did you use?
2.5 liters to flush the entire system well so 3 cans give or take