It is only through love that we find our true self, and through love, we find God, and there is only love. The troubled mind dissolves in the presence of love.
...Love is the reason why "GOD the Holy Spirit" sacrificed His Omniscience by splitting Himself into free souls (us) just to have a free family to love and to be loved freely.... ...Loving Family is the brilliant idea that GOD had ever put into existence that now the fans of satan are trying to destroy ....
Seek and you shall find (Mt. 7 :7). Yes, philosophers of religion can find God. But the initiative of salvation lies with God. Nietzsche was a philosopher of religion but his attitude of opposing God likely prevented him from finding Him (we don't know what happened on his deathbed). Motivation of the person is very important; is one engaged in philosophy of religion because of the salary, or the honour, or the work environment OR because of an intuition and a deep desire that through this walk of life God will reveal Himself?
...An Ant: ate a crumb of bread and set off on a journey to find the Baker! Along the way, it found sugar canes, and all naked, it activated its antennae and called its comrades by their names. Later, the Baker: found the Ants dead from the sugar! And Said: the way to find the Peacemaker, is by the bitterest way! Hurrah...
Science is a religion. Religion was the source of science. Religion as a philosophy of life and science as a philosophy of nature. . Moral truths Religion teaches Morality and Spirituality , they are not fiction . They are called moral and religious truths . Belief in some higher power is not blind faith; it is based on Reason. There are also many theologians (Religious Studies) who earn Phd's just like other sciences. Science and Religion-Spirituality are philosophies on both sides of the same COIN. (The old name of Science was the Philosophy of Nature, and when you get a PhD degree in Physics or whatever field of study, it means Doctor of Philosophy.) Science and religion are two sides of the same deep human impulse to understand the world, to know our place in it, and to marvel at the wonder of life and the infinite cosmos we are surrounded by. Let’s keep them that way, and not let one attempt to usurp the role of the other.
God is a abstract and undefined term that different people have entirely different definitions for…..from a personal- interfering- god to a first-cause-only to the universe/nature itself…. ….so no, real philosophy cannot find god because it is not defined. Religion pre-necessities god so by circular reasoning , always find god.
Your point about the varied definitions of God is valid, as people indeed conceive of 'God' in vastly different ways. However, the abstract and undefined nature of the concept doesn't necessarily preclude meaningful exploration. Philosophy, and especially mystical traditions, often embrace this ambiguity as a starting point for deeper inquiry. While religions may operate with predefined notions, the pursuit of direct experience, beyond words and definitions, has been central to many spiritual paths. Perhaps the question isn't whether philosophy can 'find' God, but whether it can help us navigate the layers of meaning and experience that the concept evokes.
What you discuss is interesting, but I believe you overlook a crucial aspect: the direct experience of the divine. Even within Christianity, mystical figures such as Saint Teresa of Avila, Saint John of the Cross, and Meister Eckhart argued that true knowledge of God transcends intellectualization and is found in direct experience, contemplation, and union with the divine. Unfortunately, this mystical path has been sidelined and nearly forgotten, both in religious practice and in philosophical approaches that focus solely on rational analysis and doctrinal debates. This often distances individuals from the spiritual essence that religion should foster. Meanwhile, other groups not affiliated with traditional religions have rediscovered these mystical paths and direct contact with the divine, exploring transcendent realities through meditation, expanded consciousness, and other practices. However, these pursuits have been sadly demonized, ridiculed, and dismissed by traditional religions, missing an opportunity to mutually enrich spiritual understanding. Reviving this experiential dimension could revitalize not only religious practice but also the philosophical and cultural dialogue about the divine.
Almost all religions have a concept of God. To praise God's majesty, these each have their own different philosophies about God. I think all religions have certain good things to say about God and the path to connect with divine. I think that in the near future, science and philosophy will unravel God. Then probably the path to connect with God will also be realised. We should, then, try to make a universal religion that will be based on truth. I hope such a universal religion will have good points share from all the religions of the world.
Within the history of ideas, philosophical arguments for the existence of God are interesting demonstrations of logic etc. but short answer, will philosophical argument find god? No. On the other hand, if you read Karl Barth, a learned theologian, then you might be persuaded, or at least get a glimpse of something profound and well argued, but not masquerading as philosophy.
A lot rambling and keep out God evidence though experiences . Rethoric blah. they are talking for nothing because nil proof about philosophy of Religious
Just like science doesn't exist. Only curiosity and greed exist. Misconceptions about the nature and practice of science abound, and are sometimes even held by otherwise respectable practicing scientists themselves. One of the most common misconceptions concerns the so-called “scientific proofs.” Contrary to popular belief, there is no such thing as a scientific proof.
While it's true that the human imagination plays a role in shaping perceptions of God, dismissing all experiences or insights as mere vagaries of imagination might overlook the profound and transformative nature of direct spiritual experiences. Many mystics and seekers across cultures have described encountering something that transcends subjective imagination, often accompanied by profound personal and ethical changes. Perhaps the question is not where God can be found, but whether our methods of inquiry, be they rational, mystical, or experiential, can genuinely open us to something beyond our preconceptions.
🙏Mathematical truth exists. Timeless, spaceless, immaterial. Logical. Infinitely beautiful. Moral truth exists. Spaceless, timeless, immaterial. Logical. Infinitely beautiful. Jesus is that moral truth, standing before God with zero sin. Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. Amen. 🙏🔥😇✝️🎄♾️👑🕯️
Misconceptions about Science if you truly understand SCIENCE... Science has Not Proven anything ... they are all theories only. Common misconceptions about science I: “Scientific proof” Why there is no such thing as a scientific proof. Proofs exist only in mathematics and logic, not in science. The primary criterion and standard of evaluation of scientific theory is evidence, not proof. Proofs are not the currency of science. all scientific knowledge is tentative and provisional, and nothing is final. There is no such thing as final proven knowledge in science. The currently accepted theory of a phenomenon is simply the best explanation for it among all available alternatives. Further, proofs, like pregnancy, are binary; a mathematical proposition is either proven (in which case it becomes a theorem) or not (in which case it remains a conjecture until it is proven). There is nothing in between. A theorem cannot be kind of proven or almost proven. These are the same as unproven.
Your connection between mathematical truth, moral truth, and Jesus as the embodiment of ultimate truth is deeply meaningful from a Christian perspective. It’s fascinating to consider how such timeless, spaceless concepts resonate across different spiritual and philosophical traditions. Many mystical traditions also speak of universal truths that transcend specific figures or doctrines, inviting seekers to directly experience these principles in their lives. While Jesus is central to your faith, exploring how these truths manifest across different paths could open even more profound insights into the infinite beauty and logic you describe.
@@pmi74mthank you for your reply. I am in complete agreement. Indeed, the Lord works in mysterious ways. However, when his truth is revealed, it is nothing less than an absolute glory to behold. humbly, and, eternally grateful, to bear witness to a fraction of His great works 🙏
"Can Philosophy of Religion Find God?" Our souls were not sent here to find GOD..... We are here to hopefully find FAITH in a loving GOD without knowing Him... and our ancient ancestors, though they did not know yet what Philosophy is all about, were actually applying some Philosophy when they found FAITH in GOD.... The following light may help you understand how, hopefully : Stone-age people believed in the Almighty Creator by just witnessing the Awesome Wonders of Nature... and because of their faith, many of them received the heavenly light that made them understand GOD better.... they then share this light to their descendants .. .. the sharing of this light went on and on from generations to generations that finally were written on tablets, scrolls, bibles, etc.. being interpreted in many different ways due to the writer's language handicap in ancient times... ...the passage of this light from generations to generations being interpreted, or misinterpreted, had led to the development of many religions from all over the world ... this is why you have genesis, bible, koran, torah, etc etc... ... I believe I received the same light because of my sincere faith, but fortunate enough that I have enough available words today to interpret and convey this light much better, unlike ancient writers whose literacy was still in its infancy... this is why you find my interpretation somehow different but has many things in common with what you read from religious books.... ..nevertheless, it is your sincere faith in the existence of a Loving GOD that matters that can save your soul, and not how imperfect men interpreted the unknown GOD through the light they received...
It’s understandable to feel skeptical, especially when discussions about God often rely on abstract concepts or arguments. However, dismissing the search for meaning as 'screaming at the dark' might overlook the deeper purpose of such inquiries. As discussed in the dialogue, even within philosophy, the focus shouldn't always be on proving God’s existence, but on exploring the human drive for connection, understanding, and purpose. Perhaps the real question isn’t about whether God 'is there,' but about what this search reveals about ourselves and our place in the universe.
It is only through love that we find our true self, and through love, we find God, and there is only love. The troubled mind dissolves in the presence of love.
...Love is the reason why "GOD the Holy Spirit" sacrificed His Omniscience by splitting Himself into free souls (us) just to have a free family to love and to be loved freely....
...Loving Family is the brilliant idea that GOD had ever put into existence that now the fans of satan are trying to destroy ....
Spend quality time with God daily in the Word and sing worship out loud, and you will find God.
Seek and you shall find (Mt. 7 :7).
Yes, philosophers of religion can find God.
But the initiative of salvation lies with God.
Nietzsche was a philosopher of religion but his attitude of opposing God likely prevented him from finding Him (we don't know what happened on his deathbed).
Motivation of the person is very important;
is one engaged in philosophy of religion because of the salary, or the honour, or the work environment OR
because of an intuition and a deep desire that through this walk of life God will reveal Himself?
...An Ant: ate a crumb of bread and set off on a journey to find the Baker! Along the way, it found sugar canes, and all naked, it activated its antennae and called its comrades by their names. Later, the Baker: found the Ants dead from the sugar! And Said: the way to find the Peacemaker, is by the bitterest way! Hurrah...
Philosophy is based in thought, realization is based in devotion, which is based in the appearance of God through his avatar appearances.
Science is a religion.
Religion was the source of science.
Religion as a philosophy of life and science as a philosophy of nature.
.
Moral truths
Religion teaches Morality and Spirituality , they are not fiction . They are called moral and religious truths . Belief in some higher power is not blind faith; it is based on Reason.
There are also many theologians (Religious Studies) who earn Phd's just like other sciences. Science and Religion-Spirituality are philosophies on both sides of the same COIN. (The old name of Science was the Philosophy of Nature, and when you get a PhD degree in Physics or whatever field of study, it means Doctor of Philosophy.)
Science and religion are two sides of the same deep human impulse to understand the world, to know our place in it, and to marvel at the wonder of life and the infinite cosmos we are surrounded by. Let’s keep them that way, and not let one attempt to usurp the role of the other.
Even the shroud of turin was first decoded using technology, not religion.
Wrong
God is a abstract and undefined term that different people have entirely different definitions for…..from a personal- interfering- god to a first-cause-only to the universe/nature itself….
….so no, real philosophy cannot find god because it is not defined.
Religion pre-necessities god so by circular reasoning , always find god.
That's why God exists.
And the god of the atheists doesnt exist
Your point about the varied definitions of God is valid, as people indeed conceive of 'God' in vastly different ways. However, the abstract and undefined nature of the concept doesn't necessarily preclude meaningful exploration. Philosophy, and especially mystical traditions, often embrace this ambiguity as a starting point for deeper inquiry. While religions may operate with predefined notions, the pursuit of direct experience, beyond words and definitions, has been central to many spiritual paths. Perhaps the question isn't whether philosophy can 'find' God, but whether it can help us navigate the layers of meaning and experience that the concept evokes.
It hasn't so far but philosophers can hope.
What you discuss is interesting, but I believe you overlook a crucial aspect: the direct experience of the divine. Even within Christianity, mystical figures such as Saint Teresa of Avila, Saint John of the Cross, and Meister Eckhart argued that true knowledge of God transcends intellectualization and is found in direct experience, contemplation, and union with the divine.
Unfortunately, this mystical path has been sidelined and nearly forgotten, both in religious practice and in philosophical approaches that focus solely on rational analysis and doctrinal debates. This often distances individuals from the spiritual essence that religion should foster.
Meanwhile, other groups not affiliated with traditional religions have rediscovered these mystical paths and direct contact with the divine, exploring transcendent realities through meditation, expanded consciousness, and other practices. However, these pursuits have been sadly demonized, ridiculed, and dismissed by traditional religions, missing an opportunity to mutually enrich spiritual understanding. Reviving this experiential dimension could revitalize not only religious practice but also the philosophical and cultural dialogue about the divine.
Almost all religions have a concept of God. To praise God's majesty, these each have their own different philosophies about God. I think all religions have certain good things to say about God and the path to connect with divine. I think that in the near future, science and philosophy will unravel God. Then probably the path to connect with God will also be realised. We should, then, try to make a universal religion that will be based on truth. I hope such a universal religion will have good points share from all the religions of the world.
Within the history of ideas, philosophical arguments for the existence of God are interesting demonstrations of logic etc. but short answer, will philosophical argument find god? No. On the other hand, if you read Karl Barth, a learned theologian, then you might be persuaded, or at least get a glimpse of something profound and well argued, but not masquerading as philosophy.
A lot rambling and keep out God evidence though experiences . Rethoric blah. they are talking for nothing because nil proof about philosophy of Religious
Philosophy of religion is human creation, imaginative. Proof for imagination?
@@sujok-acupuncture9246 I think you mean proof of "Many Inventions" -Rudyard Kipling
The vagaries of the human imagination are as such that God can be made to be found just about anywhere the inquirer sees fit
Just like science doesn't exist.
Only curiosity and greed exist.
Misconceptions about the nature and practice of science abound, and are sometimes even held by otherwise respectable practicing scientists themselves. One of the most common misconceptions concerns the so-called “scientific proofs.” Contrary to popular belief, there is no such thing as a scientific proof.
While it's true that the human imagination plays a role in shaping perceptions of God, dismissing all experiences or insights as mere vagaries of imagination might overlook the profound and transformative nature of direct spiritual experiences. Many mystics and seekers across cultures have described encountering something that transcends subjective imagination, often accompanied by profound personal and ethical changes. Perhaps the question is not where God can be found, but whether our methods of inquiry, be they rational, mystical, or experiential, can genuinely open us to something beyond our preconceptions.
🙏Mathematical truth exists. Timeless, spaceless, immaterial. Logical. Infinitely beautiful. Moral truth exists. Spaceless, timeless, immaterial. Logical. Infinitely beautiful. Jesus is that moral truth, standing before God with zero sin. Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. Amen. 🙏🔥😇✝️🎄♾️👑🕯️
Misconceptions about Science
if you truly understand SCIENCE... Science has Not Proven anything ... they are all theories only.
Common misconceptions about science I: “Scientific proof”
Why there is no such thing as a scientific proof.
Proofs exist only in mathematics and logic, not in science. The primary criterion and standard of evaluation of scientific theory is evidence, not proof. Proofs are not the currency of science. all scientific knowledge is tentative and provisional, and nothing is final. There is no such thing as final proven knowledge in science. The currently accepted theory of a phenomenon is simply the best explanation for it among all available alternatives. Further, proofs, like pregnancy, are binary; a mathematical proposition is either proven (in which case it becomes a theorem) or not (in which case it remains a conjecture until it is proven). There is nothing in between. A theorem cannot be kind of proven or almost proven. These are the same as unproven.
Your connection between mathematical truth, moral truth, and Jesus as the embodiment of ultimate truth is deeply meaningful from a Christian perspective. It’s fascinating to consider how such timeless, spaceless concepts resonate across different spiritual and philosophical traditions. Many mystical traditions also speak of universal truths that transcend specific figures or doctrines, inviting seekers to directly experience these principles in their lives. While Jesus is central to your faith, exploring how these truths manifest across different paths could open even more profound insights into the infinite beauty and logic you describe.
@@pmi74mthank you for your reply. I am in complete agreement. Indeed, the Lord works in mysterious ways. However, when his truth is revealed, it is nothing less than an absolute glory to behold. humbly, and, eternally grateful, to bear witness to a fraction of His great works 🙏
Yeah, no.
Math true not existe so far. Math is tautology It is means nothing . Number is symbol like O, 1, 2, ....
"Can Philosophy of Religion Find God?"
Our souls were not sent here to find GOD..... We are here to hopefully find FAITH in a loving GOD without knowing Him... and our ancient ancestors, though they did not know yet what Philosophy is all about, were actually applying some Philosophy when they found FAITH in GOD....
The following light may help you understand how, hopefully :
Stone-age people believed in the Almighty Creator by just witnessing the Awesome Wonders of Nature... and because of their faith, many of them received the heavenly light that made them understand GOD better.... they then share this light to their descendants ..
.. the sharing of this light went on and on from generations to generations that finally were written on tablets, scrolls, bibles, etc.. being interpreted in many different ways due to the writer's language handicap in ancient times...
...the passage of this light from generations to generations being interpreted, or misinterpreted, had led to the development of many religions from all over the world ... this is why you have genesis, bible, koran, torah, etc etc...
... I believe I received the same light because of my sincere faith, but fortunate enough that I have enough available words today to interpret and convey this light much better, unlike ancient writers whose literacy was still in its infancy... this is why you find my interpretation somehow different but has many things in common with what you read from religious books....
..nevertheless, it is your sincere faith in the existence of a Loving GOD that matters that can save your soul, and not how imperfect men interpreted the unknown GOD through the light they received...
NO. Just, no.
Nobel Laureates' circle discussion in which philosophers are said to be urgently needed in AI and not in religion. Make yourself useful, people!
You are ridiculous god isn’t there quit screaming at the dark .
Science has proven that we don't exist .
And that life in the universe is impossible
It’s understandable to feel skeptical, especially when discussions about God often rely on abstract concepts or arguments. However, dismissing the search for meaning as 'screaming at the dark' might overlook the deeper purpose of such inquiries. As discussed in the dialogue, even within philosophy, the focus shouldn't always be on proving God’s existence, but on exploring the human drive for connection, understanding, and purpose. Perhaps the real question isn’t about whether God 'is there,' but about what this search reveals about ourselves and our place in the universe.
So you have found out God is not there...
Shadow-banned on the "Closer To Truth" channel ............................ _Once again!_