i always come back to watch first-time reactors like these guys just to revisit the pure joy this show gave me for years and cleanse myself off of the toxic fans. i loved this show from the beginning to the end. what a masterpiece.
Tywin is a brilliant strategist. He planned this outcome from the beginning. He knows Tyrion didn’t kill Joffrey but he knows Jamie would do anything to save his brother. Jamie had refused to take up the leadership of Casterly rock before and now Tywin saw a way to make him take it over. Yes, Tywin is a villain but you just have to respect how he plays the game. Charles Dance just dominates every scene he’s in.
Tywin blames Tyrion for his wife's death because she died giving birth to him and on top of that, he's a dwarf. Cersei blames him for killing her mother. Jamie actually loves his brother.
well tyrion did slap Joffrey several times during season 1 and 2, and it was a delight to watch every time 🙂 ps: Tyrion's right hand man name is Bronn.
13:29 nope it was all true. Everything being said about Tyrion actually happened and you saw it all. But it's all being said in different contexts this time. I love the way Tywin & Tyrion stare each other down at the end. It's like Tywin is seeing himself in his son for the first time and Tyrion's like YES 🤬 I AM YOUR 🤬SON!! EVERYONE hated Shae after this. ole stankin ho If Jamie were to die for Tyrion's trial by combat, Tyrion would be found guilty and sentenced to death... "and Now the Rains weep o'er their halls".🤷🏽♀️
On Shae: I think the writers shot themselves in the foot with the changes they made to her character tbh. In making her love/care for Tyrion, not only does it make her later betrayals even _more_ vicious, they feel borderline out-of-character. Especially when she also throws Sansa under the bus, despite the show taking great pains to develop her motherly, protective bond towards her. Idk. It reads like a writing fumble, like they were awkwardly trying to bridge her book-self with the character they wrote for the show before Kings Landing. Even if we're supposed to believe she was just _that_ jealous and angry, it feels like extremely disproportionate retribution for something that her show-self _really should have understood._ In trying to make Shae feel more complex than she was in the books, they made her less consistent and coherent as a character instead. Not really an improvement imo.
"Most of us live and die in the same corner we were born in...I do not wish to be most of us." 🥰 This is my favorite line from Oberyn. I grew up on an island and most of my friends from HS never left, whereas I inherited itchy feet and the need to wander from my parents. I left the island at 18 and have been fortunate to travel for both work and pleasure. The world is amazing.
Although I lived about 20 miles inland, I worked on Grand Isle Louisiana for several years. And its exactly like you described. The majority of people there are perfectly content and have absolutely no desire leave as well
Tywin’s bargain with Jamie was everything Tywin wanted. Jamie gives him Lannister grandchildren at his family home. He gets to ‘save’ Tyrion by sending him so far north that he’ll never have to see or deal with him again. And Tywin gets to manipulate Tommen however he wants.
The problem with Tywin is that, as a cerebral man, the affective and emotional sides of people and situations are not included in his calculations, which is always a huge, huge mistake. Human behaviour is unpredictable, chaotic, and cannot be reduced to a set of sharp chess moves, no matter how brilliant they may be. Littlefinger, on the contrary, does use chaos and human feelings in his equations ("chaos is a ladder"), as the reckless player he is.
Tyrion did slap him just before the hound saves Sansa. He also slapped him several times at Winterfell. Granted both cases the little f*** asked for it.
@@jesses5463 BS! Joffrey turned out that way because Cersei is a bad mother who let her son get away with everything and taught him he could behave and do anything he wanted because he was a prince/king. Robert and Jamie were also not good father figures because they didn't care enough to teach him shit. He also might have turned out that way because he was a product of incest. If Cersei wasn't such an idiot she would have taught him right and smacked/punished him when he acted up. Tyrion tried to teach him respect a few times with a smack but by that point it was too late and Joffrey was already set in his ways.
@@jesses5463 no he ended up that way because his mother was a monster who never taught him any values or morals. Both his parents were disgusting parents who created a monster.
@@kylethompson3008 I've known tons of kids who have been allowed to get away with anything and they didn't turn out like this. Joffrey is a clear example of the effect domestic violence can have on a child. In this case, domestic violence from a bad uncle.
In reality, all the testimonies were true (except for Shae's which was mixed with intimacy of both and lies) But in reality, everything else was true, the slaps happened many times, but it's all taken out of context to make it look like Tyrion really wanted to murder him, They mixed discipline with wanting him dead, because yes, no one except Tyrion was telling his truths to his face, not even Tywin.
I love your reactions! I'm keeping my fingers crossed than one day you'll have a non-white backdrop!? For me, it's always a choice between: bright screen blindness, or not being able to see the video. There's alot of fiddling with the brightness level. I know it may sound crazy, but I thought I'd ask!!! Thanks!
Sir Maren wasn’t lying about that. That was when they were being attacked by the mob in King’s Landing (when Sansa almost got raped) when he slapped Joffrey. All these things are mostly technically true but have been taken out of context. That’s why it sucks 😭 and Varys really just trying not to die
Love this episode, and the performance! Incredible, on the Emmys it was this performance versus Aaron Paul's when Jesse found out about the cigarette "anD ALL FOR THAT a&SSHOLE Mr. WHite!" such a close battle but Aaron won this but Peter is incredible as well
Tywin hated Tyrion, so does Cercei. Jamie loves him though, and despite all of this, Tyrion still has love for his family. If he outs Joffrey, he outs Jamie. Jamie is the only one who stood up for him. Tywin wanted Tyrion dead. He conceded the Night's Watch to Jamie because he wants Jamie out of the King's guard. This trial got him 2 birds with one stone...Tyrion is alive, bit he's gone and Tywin has his heir back.
Meryn Trant's on the list, for sure, but he wasn't lying; Tyrion DID slap Joffrey, and called him vicious, and I don't remember what else... but Joffrey deserved it!!!
Tyrion slapped Joffrey and called him a vicious idiot. It was around the time the cowpie was thrown at Joff. Shae is just a woman scorned. Tyrion really hurt her. She did love him....in her way.
it would be very smart if he picks Jaime. Cersei would have never let Jaime die so i think she would change her champion and find someone who sacrifices...maybe giving him gold for his family, i don't know......i haven't watched reaction yet, just the review at the end. Please give me 4x7 tomorrow after this break after 4x5 (Half season).
8:05 this isnt the wisest move from daenaerys, she underestimates to desperation/greed of her people. If one man is paid 3 time the value of his sheep then she will soon have more wanting the same thing, some of whom will have burned their sheep on purpose for a profit. You cant be too generous as a ruler or your people will take advantage of it, but you must show enough kindness that they feel supported and cared for by the crown. Its a slightly difficult balance but Daenaerys' inexperience shows Meryn Trant wasnt lying, tyrion did do that
I dont think Tyrion treated people with respect. You can see that from this episode because a lot of the people who testified against him brought up a lot of the situations where he was disrespectful. In the beginning he tells Jon to "wear his weaknesses like armor" so that no one can ever use them against you, but Tyrion has been acting like "The Imp" for the past few seaons and you can see from this episode how acting in that way came back to bite him in the ass.
Her anger played a huge role in this though, revengeful attitude to the max basically, she said like 100 things more than she could have on this occasion, being way too hateful than Tyrion ever deserved. Completely unredeemable after this betrayal, regardless of how Tywin and Cersei may have approached her. That was awful to watch.
Shae never understood the real danger she was in, while she was with Tyrion. She thought she'd been flat out rejected, but really should have known better.
Did yall completely forget all of what they talked about during the trial, really? The first 3 seasons yall didnt miss a single beat and guessed everything properly or atleast understood what was going on and remembered all the details, now you just forget it all, in these past 3-4 episodes yall are acting like yall have never seen the show before, weird stuff man, weird stuff.
its 4am an im drunk an speaking out of term and being rude, but man this seasons reactions do not feel the same at all, yall question everything now, when you use to actually know why stuff was happening.
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i always come back to watch first-time reactors like these guys just to revisit the pure joy this show gave me for years and cleanse myself off of the toxic fans. i loved this show from the beginning to the end. what a masterpiece.
You don’t remember Tyrion slapping Joffrey? It happened more than once.
“And now I have slapped a king…did my hand fall from my wrist?”
IIRC it was 4 times... Cersei got a slap in too
Actually, the quote is "And now I've struck a king"
@@USCFlash I stand corrected.
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Tywin is a brilliant strategist. He planned this outcome from the beginning. He knows Tyrion didn’t kill Joffrey but he knows Jamie would do anything to save his brother. Jamie had refused to take up the leadership of Casterly rock before and now Tywin saw a way to make him take it over. Yes, Tywin is a villain but you just have to respect how he plays the game. Charles Dance just dominates every scene he’s in.
Tyrion actually did slap the shit out of Joffrey.
"I should have let Stannis kill you all!"
I felt that in my bonesss
The performance by Peter Dinklage at the end is one of the best I ever seen!
Tywin blames Tyrion for his wife's death because she died giving birth to him and on top of that, he's a dwarf. Cersei blames him for killing her mother. Jamie actually loves his brother.
well tyrion did slap Joffrey several times during season 1 and 2, and it was a delight to watch every time 🙂
ps: Tyrion's right hand man name is Bronn.
13:29 nope it was all true. Everything being said about Tyrion actually happened and you saw it all. But it's all being said in different contexts this time.
I love the way Tywin & Tyrion stare each other down at the end. It's like Tywin is seeing himself in his son for the first time and Tyrion's like YES 🤬 I AM YOUR 🤬SON!!
EVERYONE hated Shae after this. ole stankin ho
If Jamie were to die for Tyrion's trial by combat, Tyrion would be found guilty and sentenced to death... "and Now the Rains weep o'er their halls".🤷🏽♀️
Exactly. Tyrion slapped Joffrey on numerous occasions as well
On Shae: I think the writers shot themselves in the foot with the changes they made to her character tbh. In making her love/care for Tyrion, not only does it make her later betrayals even _more_ vicious, they feel borderline out-of-character. Especially when she also throws Sansa under the bus, despite the show taking great pains to develop her motherly, protective bond towards her.
Idk. It reads like a writing fumble, like they were awkwardly trying to bridge her book-self with the character they wrote for the show before Kings Landing. Even if we're supposed to believe she was just _that_ jealous and angry, it feels like extremely disproportionate retribution for something that her show-self _really should have understood._ In trying to make Shae feel more complex than she was in the books, they made her less consistent and coherent as a character instead. Not really an improvement imo.
@@EmphaticNod agreed!
"Most of us live and die in the same corner we were born in...I do not wish to be most of us." 🥰 This is my favorite line from Oberyn. I grew up on an island and most of my friends from HS never left, whereas I inherited itchy feet and the need to wander from my parents. I left the island at 18 and have been fortunate to travel for both work and pleasure. The world is amazing.
many people don't even have the option
through most of human civ this was true
Although I lived about 20 miles inland, I worked on Grand Isle Louisiana for several years. And its exactly like you described. The majority of people there are perfectly content and have absolutely no desire leave as well
Tywin’s bargain with Jamie was everything Tywin wanted. Jamie gives him Lannister grandchildren at his family home. He gets to ‘save’ Tyrion by sending him so far north that he’ll never have to see or deal with him again. And Tywin gets to manipulate Tommen however he wants.
The problem with Tywin is that, as a cerebral man, the affective and emotional sides of people and situations are not included in his calculations, which is always a huge, huge mistake. Human behaviour is unpredictable, chaotic, and cannot be reduced to a set of sharp chess moves, no matter how brilliant they may be. Littlefinger, on the contrary, does use chaos and human feelings in his equations ("chaos is a ladder"), as the reckless player he is.
13:55 Tyrion did slap Jeffory... dude wasn't really lying, he was just leaving out specific details that would help Tyrion lol
Ramsey fighting off the Iron Islands "best killers" while not even wearing armor is so comical.
Yeah they really watered down the skills of the iron born in the show
Mair def seen these episodes, but Sophie is legitimately reacting
I've wondered that a few times lately, especially when he slipped Oberyn's name at the end. I hope we're wrong lol.
I said the same thing since episode 1, he’s like a bad over reactor😂. Doing way to much and Sophie’s reaction is truly genuine and refreshing👏🏽
@@crisceewillcutt7296you’re not wrong😂
13:15 Sir Meryn didn't lie. Guys, c'mon, you saw the episode, Sansa almost got grape but Sandor saved her.
Pay attention.
Tyrion did slap him just before the hound saves Sansa. He also slapped him several times at Winterfell. Granted both cases the little f*** asked for it.
It's never appropriate to slap a child. And people wonder why Joffrey ended up the way he did.
@@jesses5463 BS! Joffrey turned out that way because Cersei is a bad mother who let her son get away with everything and taught him he could behave and do anything he wanted because he was a prince/king. Robert and Jamie were also not good father figures because they didn't care enough to teach him shit. He also might have turned out that way because he was a product of incest. If Cersei wasn't such an idiot she would have taught him right and smacked/punished him when he acted up. Tyrion tried to teach him respect a few times with a smack but by that point it was too late and Joffrey was already set in his ways.
@@jesses5463 no he ended up that way because his mother was a monster who never taught him any values or morals. Both his parents were disgusting parents who created a monster.
@@kylethompson3008 I've known tons of kids who have been allowed to get away with anything and they didn't turn out like this. Joffrey is a clear example of the effect domestic violence can have on a child. In this case, domestic violence from a bad uncle.
@@jesses5463 when joff was about 5 he cut open a pregnant cat to see what's inside, this isn't from bad parenting
In reality, all the testimonies were true (except for Shae's which was mixed with intimacy of both and lies) But in reality, everything else was true, the slaps happened many times, but it's all taken out of context to make it look like Tyrion really wanted to murder him, They mixed discipline with wanting him dead, because yes, no one except Tyrion was telling his truths to his face, not even Tywin.
The name is Bronn, Sophie :D
23:00 tbf tyrion says "watching your vicious BASTARD die-..." lmao
I love your reactions!
I'm keeping my fingers crossed than one day you'll have a non-white backdrop!?
For me, it's always a choice between: bright screen blindness, or not being able to see the video.
There's alot of fiddling with the brightness level.
I know it may sound crazy, but I thought I'd ask!!!
Thanks!
22:48 "You don't know meee... you don't meee..." 🤣
Sir Maren wasn’t lying about that. That was when they were being attacked by the mob in King’s Landing (when Sansa almost got raped) when he slapped Joffrey. All these things are mostly technically true but have been taken out of context. That’s why it sucks 😭 and Varys really just trying not to die
"Let him cook, let him cook, let him cook cause you NEVER can trust a whore! Couple awareness!!! 😂
Love this episode, and the performance! Incredible, on the Emmys it was this performance versus Aaron Paul's when Jesse found out about the cigarette "anD ALL FOR THAT a&SSHOLE Mr. WHite!" such a close battle but Aaron won this but Peter is incredible as well
Tywin hated Tyrion, so does Cercei. Jamie loves him though, and despite all of this, Tyrion still has love for his family. If he outs Joffrey, he outs Jamie. Jamie is the only one who stood up for him.
Tywin wanted Tyrion dead. He conceded the Night's Watch to Jamie because he wants Jamie out of the King's guard. This trial got him 2 birds with one stone...Tyrion is alive, bit he's gone and Tywin has his heir back.
Meryn Trant's on the list, for sure, but he wasn't lying;
Tyrion DID slap Joffrey, and called him vicious, and I don't remember what else... but Joffrey deserved it!!!
Oh boy the next episode has one of my top 3 scenes of the whole series. Can't wait!
Omg shay legit pissed my off!! Do like how jamie willing to quit screwing his sister take a wife for his baby bro!
Great reaction vid. Thanks for doing these.
I swear yall don't take in any of what you watch lmao How can you not remember Tyrion slapping Joffrey?? He did it like twice throughout the show...
Tyrion slapped Joffrey and called him a vicious idiot. It was around the time the cowpie was thrown at Joff. Shae is just a woman scorned. Tyrion really hurt her. She did love him....in her way.
He did actually call Joffrey a bastard to Cersei during the outburst
Stannis and Davos are in Bravos at the beginning.
it would be very smart if he picks Jaime. Cersei would have never let Jaime die so i think she would change her champion and find someone who sacrifices...maybe giving him gold for his family, i don't know......i haven't watched reaction yet, just the review at the end. Please give me 4x7 tomorrow after this break after 4x5 (Half season).
8:05 this isnt the wisest move from daenaerys, she underestimates to desperation/greed of her people. If one man is paid 3 time the value of his sheep then she will soon have more wanting the same thing, some of whom will have burned their sheep on purpose for a profit. You cant be too generous as a ruler or your people will take advantage of it, but you must show enough kindness that they feel supported and cared for by the crown. Its a slightly difficult balance but Daenaerys' inexperience shows
Meryn Trant wasnt lying, tyrion did do that
It is very interesting to see your reaction to the films Robocop and Robocop 3. This is a cool immortal classic 👍👍👍
Halfman! Halfman!
I dont think Tyrion treated people with respect. You can see that from this episode because a lot of the people who testified against him brought up a lot of the situations where he was disrespectful. In the beginning he tells Jon to "wear his weaknesses like armor" so that no one can ever use them against you, but Tyrion has been acting like "The Imp" for the past few seaons and you can see from this episode how acting in that way came back to bite him in the ass.
I like your reaction gais❤
"Tywin is more wise"--God, no. He is bad at long-term strategy, bad at parenting, and ruthless. Not wise.
Everybody will get what they deserve
Bravo.
It’s getting good
Great reaction when Shae came out, she's terrible, her only rival is Skyler White🤣
Davos is dah-vos. Not Dave-os
Cersi / tywin got to shay and threatened her life is why she did it, along with her anger towards him
Her anger played a huge role in this though, revengeful attitude to the max basically, she said like 100 things more than she could have on this occasion, being way too hateful than Tyrion ever deserved. Completely unredeemable after this betrayal, regardless of how Tywin and Cersei may have approached her. That was awful to watch.
Shae never understood the real danger she was in, while she was with Tyrion. She thought she'd been flat out rejected, but really should have known better.
Trial by combat? How is that even an option? But, okay. Sure. Whatever. Tyrion, already screwed by the system, woulda been TOTALLY screwed otherwise.
But everything that was said is true
May I recommend a new show for you guys?
You're gonna need a thicker skin, but in the end i think you're gonna love this show 😉
Tommen is submissive, inexperienced, young and easily maniplutated. And idealy was never suppose to be king. Tywin walked all over him!
can you watch House of the dragon
Did yall completely forget all of what they talked about during the trial, really? The first 3 seasons yall didnt miss a single beat and guessed everything properly or atleast understood what was going on and remembered all the details, now you just forget it all, in these past 3-4 episodes yall are acting like yall have never seen the show before, weird stuff man, weird stuff.
its 4am an im drunk an speaking out of term and being rude, but man this seasons reactions do not feel the same at all, yall question everything now, when you use to actually know why stuff was happening.
What do you think would happen to Shae if she said no to Tywin and Cersei?
I can't stand Shae. Such a horrible actress. Speaks with zero emotion.
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that she did porn which explains why her acting is shit