I wish Brisbane still built the classical sandstone kind of architecture. It would make our cities look much nicer and more iconic, compared to the boring simplistic detached buildings/houses that flood the majority of our city especially in the newer suburbs
Too bad they will light the building with ugly LEDs to support the latest political campaign, like _land rights for gay Palestinian whales_ or whatever.
That could have been nice but probably too close to the Queensland Museum just across the bridge, and even the Museum of Brisbane located in the Brisbane City Hall
Keep up the awesome work. It’s great to get this style of video on local (Aus and Brisbane) topics and you seem really passionate about the topics you cover
I had no idea this was happening, the rumour I heard was Myer was going in there. I'm actually so happy about this, this will breathe so life into the CBD. Let's hope this is the beginning of something beautiful. Brisbane CBD is so underutilized.
You could have mentioned UQ's historic Customs House in this piece. It's held on a 99-year lease and UQ banded together with some apartment owners in the tower behind to legally (unsuccessfully) oppose development of a huge residential tower very close beside CH around a decade ago. Since then UQ has taken over the sandstone former NAB building on the corner of Queen and Creek streets. Who knows if they plan on keeping both CBD historic buildings long-term? CH is like UQ's in-house classy restaurant (once upon a time it had the Staff Club overlooking the lawns and lakes at St Lucia for this purpose) and as I understand the former NAB building is focused on the wealthy business school's teaching, learning and program activities. Don't dismiss Griffith as a "third" university. At one stage not too many years ago it was Qld's biggest uni ranked by student enrolment numbers and possibly it still is; sorry I'm not up with current data. But as I recall at that time, UQ, QUT and Griffith each had around 40,000 students. Unis are poked and prodded for all sorts of data cut in different ways and there are global and local rankings and measurements on which Griffith has at times outshone the other two main Brisbane-based unis.
Casinos employ actuaries and mathematicians, would you believe?! I knew someone who had a job like that in Japan. Some smart Griffith students could get good experience down the road!
Star was not selling that building for 248 million 😂😂😂😂 the original deal was 248 for the treasury the multi story car park and the treasury hotel across the road with 120 hotels rooms . Griffith uni paid the full rate for the 1 out of the 3 assets for sale
I know someone who works for Griffith and they were lamenting how Griffith was laying of staff the same week as they "bought a casino"... I think their comments misconstrue what Griffith was doing but it was interesting timing.
Not so sure how much of a win it will be, the re-moddeling to make it fit for purpose will be a nightmare. My mate was in charge of the original Treasurty build, the amount paperwork and delays caused by trying to keep all of the heritage listed parts original and not destroying anything with the new build was a nightmare. I expect no different this time.
So much better that this fantastic building can be used as a place of progress and learning rather than a place of gambling and degeneracy. A step in the right direction for Brisbane
It’s an interesting move, Griffith clearly has a very different structure and direction than other QLD Uni’s. They have South Bank, Nathan, Mt Gravatt, Logan and the Gold Coast. This move feels like an extension and solidification of their South Bank campus which is very understated and alongside South Bank TAFE but will probably be regarded as a seperate campus within Griffith (like Nathan and Mt Gravatt which are within walking distance of each other but on opposite sides of the highway). Maybe they could convert the old Myer store into accomodation like the old Coorparoo Myers was (although that was demolished and replaced). I have no need for a University so this development doesn’t benefit me directly. There are probably many developments that would benefit a broader range of the public and allow more people to enjoy the old Treasury building. Hopefully Griffith include eateries within the building with public access and river views so that they people can finally enjoy the building in a way that the Casino’s locked in set up didn’t allow for.
I'm going to assume the two faculties (I.T. & Law) are going to be popular -the video quotes the building is planned to accommodate 7,000 students. The renders show a lot of desks and individual study areas, and the centre square (flanked by the building's four sides) looks to be turned into an open seating area. So what about lecture theatres & rooms? I haven't been to Uni in a long time, so not sure if physical lectures even exist any more. But how does such a small building fit in enough lecture rooms & theatres for 7,000 students? Especially if the centre square isn't going to be converted either? Last time I checked Treasury Casino's conference rooms, there were only about 5 available, and only about one or two that would fit more than 100 people.... Just seems like an odd choice for a campus for two of the more popular faculties.
Not all 7000 students will be attending lectures at the same time. Most uni students have somewhere between 18 to 24 hours of lecture time each week (at least that's what it was when I went to uni).
@@jimmyp902 Okay thanks for the info. But even if it's only 300 students attending a lecture, how is the building going to accommodate? As stated, the existing 'conference rooms' available do not fit much more than 50 people (there's one or two rooms that can fit 100 odd, but that's no where near the capacity needed.) I'd like to know if there's plans to build larger lecture rooms. Will they convert a basement carpark? Will they just demolish a bunch of interior walls? And if so, how will this impact on heritage requirements. It just seems an odd choice of building for a university 'campus.' Especially one hosting traditionally popular faculties that stick to traditional student-lecturer methods. It just seems like Griffith Uni would be better off utilising the building for something more suitable: a post-grad campus only (therefore no need for lecture theatres), or an extension to the Southbank campus arts (e.g. utilise the building for exhibiting student's work. Which would be open to the public.)
I love that you keep commenting this! Would love to do a video on the Nasams - we are working on an updated video for Brisbane Metro which should be coming out end of October, then I'd like to do a Nuclear sub video. Maybe try and get a video on Nasams in December. Thanks for following :)
So likely to still be a bit of a dead zone in the evenings, weekends and several months of uni holidays throughout the year. Still not a bad idea and good for the uni but not sure it will revitalise the city too much.
The fact that any city could even contemplate demolishing this building and replacing it with a shopping mall says it all about Brisbane, the ghost of Jo still lives. Thanks to Griffith Uni for rescuing it from deranged pollies and developer interests.
Just look at the history of the demolition and vandalism of major heritage buildings in Australia and tell me anything is safe from developer greed and government corruption.
What a shame. There is nothing they will teach there that won’t be disrupted by AGI. By the time the building is repurposed and the first student graduates - say 5-6 years time - the world will be a very different place. Law, economics, engineering etc will all be heavily disrupted and a large percentage of those working in those fields today will be displaced. The idea that students will be traveling to a fixed location to learn will not be same as it is today. So much of student learning today is done online. The building should have been a hotel, catering for travel and tourism - something that won’t as easily be replaced by AGI. Perhaps Griffith is betting on AGI failing and the world staying the same. That’s a really, really risky bet.
As a Queensland country resident, I was dismayed to see this building become a casino. It will be terrific as a uni campus,and good job Griffith didn't have to pay too much!
Most universities are very open to members of the public coming on to /into the public areas of their campuses almost any day of the year. They all have Open Days but all also host many public events such as concerts and markets.
It's a disappointing option I'd say. After hours and on the weekend this building will be a waste of space while only students can use it. It should have been turned into retail space, or some form of public building like museum, art gallery, etc.
I betcha Griffith will put in a classy restaurant, coffee shops, an information centre, and an art gallery on the ground floor to lure in the public in and it will be open 7 days. This building will be a key "engagement" tool, as they say in the biz. They will host forums, performances, VIP visitors and civic functions. It's better located for capturing crowds than QUT's Cube and look at all the whizbangery they put in there, largely with the goal of enticing the public in to be part of Uni life. Universities are still largely publicly funded and they operate under State legislation. One of their KPIs is accessibility - ie they must be reaching out and engaging with their local communities and issues. Tried renting out premium retail space at the top of Queen St Mall lately? That would have sucked retail tenants from other places into the George St office zone - not really desirable, if even possible. I disagree that it should have been turned into retail space. I have no inside knowledge at all but Griffith will be wanting to make Brisbane proud with its repurposing of this lovely building and it will be making it very open to the public.
So many questions, one is how will 7000 students be able to attend lectures in this building as there are no lecture thratres. But the big question is cost. Was this a good economic buy at 75 million dolars, how much will the conversion cost, will this mean higher uni fees. Lets be honest unis dont need fancy historical buildings in the cbd . They need cheap, practical buildings that can provide high class education at the lowest possible cost to the students attending, not massive hecs debts because they had a fancy building
Terrible idea to give it to the uni, it should be a public building for everyone to enjoy. Having the Uni tucked away in the parkland worked, I don't really care to have students everywhere between queen street mall and southbank.
To be fair, we already have thousands of students in the CBD going to QUT, UQ and the private institutions that abound. This will just add to existing numbers.
I wonder if Australia will develop some industry... perhaps in manufacturing? oh no! Instead you milk the cash cows in a numbers game of more and more.
Griffith Was a great Uni I attended there Film and media Production course at the Film School but left to work Ft make 100k a year in a warwhousep posotion Uni is over competative
Yes, your Griffith experience is typical of the basket weaving degrees that flow out of Griffith “Uni”. Thank you for being honest enough to say so. Handing this important and beautiful building to them is a travesty.
What a shame. Griffith “Uni” will simply fill it with foreign students doing basket weaving degrees (or similar) in order to get Australian citizenship. The Government should have thought through a better option for this historic site for a use that would enable some degree of public access, as the Casino allowed previously. Not that I’m a big fan of casinos. That building is Brisbane’s version of the Casino in Monte Carlo if you’ve ever been there. A draw card to the city and a fabulous experience. Now it will just be shut up for the benefit of a few unimportant students and overpaid teaching staff. Shame.
I wish Brisbane still built the classical sandstone kind of architecture. It would make our cities look much nicer and more iconic, compared to the boring simplistic detached buildings/houses that flood the majority of our city especially in the newer suburbs
Too bad they will light the building with ugly LEDs to support the latest political campaign, like _land rights for gay Palestinian whales_ or whatever.
Sustainable too
Pretty cool. It’s a beautiful building and a uni campus is a more suitable use for it in my opinion
I agree, great use for the building. Smart move by Griffith.
Wow! Fantastic move Griffith. I loved my time as a student at Griffith which goes from strength to strength 😊
It should've been acquired as a Museum. It's a beautiful building.
That could have been nice but probably too close to the Queensland Museum just across the bridge, and even the Museum of Brisbane located in the Brisbane City Hall
Keep up the awesome work. It’s great to get this style of video on local (Aus and Brisbane) topics and you seem really passionate about the topics you cover
Thanks mate! Really appreciate the support and yes, I definitely to keep on making these kinds of videos!
I had no idea this was happening, the rumour I heard was Myer was going in there. I'm actually so happy about this, this will breathe so life into the CBD.
Let's hope this is the beginning of something beautiful. Brisbane CBD is so underutilized.
There was that rumor floating around but I don't think it was ever seriously considered. I think this is a great outcome!
I think it’s a great use of the space.
You could have mentioned UQ's historic Customs House in this piece. It's held on a 99-year lease and UQ banded together with some apartment owners in the tower behind to legally (unsuccessfully) oppose development of a huge residential tower very close beside CH around a decade ago. Since then UQ has taken over the sandstone former NAB building on the corner of Queen and Creek streets. Who knows if they plan on keeping both CBD historic buildings long-term? CH is like UQ's in-house classy restaurant (once upon a time it had the Staff Club overlooking the lawns and lakes at St Lucia for this purpose) and as I understand the former NAB building is focused on the wealthy business school's teaching, learning and program activities.
Don't dismiss Griffith as a "third" university. At one stage not too many years ago it was Qld's biggest uni ranked by student enrolment numbers and possibly it still is; sorry I'm not up with current data. But as I recall at that time, UQ, QUT and Griffith each had around 40,000 students. Unis are poked and prodded for all sorts of data cut in different ways and there are global and local rankings and measurements on which Griffith has at times outshone the other two main Brisbane-based unis.
damn! I was thinking the students could hit the pokies every Friday night 😆😆
Otherwise looks great. Well done Griffith!
Hahah there is always just down the road at the new Casino...
Casinos employ actuaries and mathematicians, would you believe?! I knew someone who had a job like that in Japan. Some smart Griffith students could get good experience down the road!
Do a video on the impact of 50c fares for the cbd and Brissy more broadly
Star was not selling that building for 248 million 😂😂😂😂 the original deal was 248 for the treasury the multi story car park and the treasury hotel across the road with 120 hotels rooms . Griffith uni paid the full rate for the 1 out of the 3 assets for sale
I know someone who works for Griffith and they were lamenting how Griffith was laying of staff the same week as they "bought a casino"... I think their comments misconstrue what Griffith was doing but it was interesting timing.
Still cant get over the awful eyesore that is the riverside expressway
Not so sure how much of a win it will be, the re-moddeling to make it fit for purpose will be a nightmare. My mate was in charge of the original Treasurty build, the amount paperwork and delays caused by trying to keep all of the heritage listed parts original and not destroying anything with the new build was a nightmare. I expect no different this time.
I bet it would be different with the Uni compared to a business, alot of things like that will be pencil whipped.
So much better that this fantastic building can be used as a place of progress and learning rather than a place of gambling and degeneracy. A step in the right direction for Brisbane
Griffith also has Uptown?
I reckon this is about the best possible outcome. It wont make any difference to me, but it's good to hear of positive outcomes in sea of negativity.
This looks interesting if I was walking around the city.
It’s an interesting move, Griffith clearly has a very different structure and direction than other QLD Uni’s. They have South Bank, Nathan, Mt Gravatt, Logan and the Gold Coast. This move feels like an extension and solidification of their South Bank campus which is very understated and alongside South Bank TAFE but will probably be regarded as a seperate campus within Griffith (like Nathan and Mt Gravatt which are within walking distance of each other but on opposite sides of the highway). Maybe they could convert the old Myer store into accomodation like the old Coorparoo Myers was (although that was demolished and replaced).
I have no need for a University so this development doesn’t benefit me directly. There are probably many developments that would benefit a broader range of the public and allow more people to enjoy the old Treasury building. Hopefully Griffith include eateries within the building with public access and river views so that they people can finally enjoy the building in a way that the Casino’s locked in set up didn’t allow for.
I'm going to assume the two faculties (I.T. & Law) are going to be popular -the video quotes the building is planned to accommodate 7,000 students. The renders show a lot of desks and individual study areas, and the centre square (flanked by the building's four sides) looks to be turned into an open seating area. So what about lecture theatres & rooms?
I haven't been to Uni in a long time, so not sure if physical lectures even exist any more. But how does such a small building fit in enough lecture rooms & theatres for 7,000 students? Especially if the centre square isn't going to be converted either?
Last time I checked Treasury Casino's conference rooms, there were only about 5 available, and only about one or two that would fit more than 100 people....
Just seems like an odd choice for a campus for two of the more popular faculties.
Not all 7000 students will be attending lectures at the same time. Most uni students have somewhere between 18 to 24 hours of lecture time each week (at least that's what it was when I went to uni).
@@jimmyp902 Okay thanks for the info. But even if it's only 300 students attending a lecture, how is the building going to accommodate?
As stated, the existing 'conference rooms' available do not fit much more than 50 people (there's one or two rooms that can fit 100 odd, but that's no where near the capacity needed.)
I'd like to know if there's plans to build larger lecture rooms. Will they convert a basement carpark? Will they just demolish a bunch of interior walls? And if so, how will this impact on heritage requirements.
It just seems an odd choice of building for a university 'campus.' Especially one hosting traditionally popular faculties that stick to traditional student-lecturer methods.
It just seems like Griffith Uni would be better off utilising the building for something more suitable: a post-grad campus only (therefore no need for lecture theatres), or an extension to the Southbank campus arts (e.g. utilise the building for exhibiting student's work. Which would be open to the public.)
Can you do a synopsis on the Nasams acquisition?
I love that you keep commenting this! Would love to do a video on the Nasams - we are working on an updated video for Brisbane Metro which should be coming out end of October, then I'd like to do a Nuclear sub video. Maybe try and get a video on Nasams in December. Thanks for following :)
So likely to still be a bit of a dead zone in the evenings, weekends and several months of uni holidays throughout the year. Still not a bad idea and good for the uni but not sure it will revitalise the city too much.
The fact that any city could even contemplate demolishing this building and replacing it with a shopping mall says it all about Brisbane, the ghost of Jo still lives. Thanks to Griffith Uni for rescuing it from deranged pollies and developer interests.
There was never any contemplation that it be demolished - it's heritage listed, so would only be renovated, keeping all historical details in tact
Just look at the history of the demolition and vandalism of major heritage buildings in Australia and tell me anything is safe from developer greed and government corruption.
Closer to the main city and much larger spaces
What a shame. There is nothing they will teach there that won’t be disrupted by AGI. By the time the building is repurposed and the first student graduates - say 5-6 years time - the world will be a very different place. Law, economics, engineering etc will all be heavily disrupted and a large percentage of those working in those fields today will be displaced. The idea that students will be traveling to a fixed location to learn will not be same as it is today. So much of student learning today is done online. The building should have been a hotel, catering for travel and tourism - something that won’t as easily be replaced by AGI. Perhaps Griffith is betting on AGI failing and the world staying the same. That’s a really, really risky bet.
As a Queensland country resident, I was dismayed to see this building become a casino. It will be terrific as a uni campus,and good job Griffith didn't have to pay too much!
So you can only see inside if your a griffith uni student? Locals and tourists miss out?
Most universities are very open to members of the public coming on to /into the public areas of their campuses almost any day of the year. They all have Open Days but all also host many public events such as concerts and markets.
@@VanillaMacaron551 concerts and markets inside the treasury a few times a year, that will be interesting.
It's a disappointing option I'd say. After hours and on the weekend this building will be a waste of space while only students can use it. It should have been turned into retail space, or some form of public building like museum, art gallery, etc.
I betcha Griffith will put in a classy restaurant, coffee shops, an information centre, and an art gallery on the ground floor to lure in the public in and it will be open 7 days. This building will be a key "engagement" tool, as they say in the biz. They will host forums, performances, VIP visitors and civic functions. It's better located for capturing crowds than QUT's Cube and look at all the whizbangery they put in there, largely with the goal of enticing the public in to be part of Uni life. Universities are still largely publicly funded and they operate under State legislation. One of their KPIs is accessibility - ie they must be reaching out and engaging with their local communities and issues.
Tried renting out premium retail space at the top of Queen St Mall lately? That would have sucked retail tenants from other places into the George St office zone - not really desirable, if even possible. I disagree that it should have been turned into retail space.
I have no inside knowledge at all but Griffith will be wanting to make Brisbane proud with its repurposing of this lovely building and it will be making it very open to the public.
@@VanillaMacaron551Fantastic insight! 👍🏼
Is that your dad in the white lambo?
So many questions, one is how will 7000 students be able to attend lectures in this building as there are no lecture thratres.
But the big question is cost. Was this a good economic buy at 75 million dolars, how much will the conversion cost, will this mean higher uni fees. Lets be honest unis dont need fancy historical buildings in the cbd . They need cheap, practical buildings that can provide high class education at the lowest possible cost to the students attending, not massive hecs debts because they had a fancy building
Terrible idea to give it to the uni, it should be a public building for everyone to enjoy. Having the Uni tucked away in the parkland worked, I don't really care to have students everywhere between queen street mall and southbank.
To be fair, we already have thousands of students in the CBD going to QUT, UQ and the private institutions that abound. This will just add to existing numbers.
I completely agree with you. Shush a shame to hand it over to (mainly) foreign students.
Another 100 staff is losing job Jin GU😂
Why is the City so Overpriced
I wonder if Australia will develop some industry... perhaps in manufacturing? oh no! Instead you milk the cash cows in a numbers game of more and more.
they gon build it using the money they steal from charging students parking fines
Griffith Was a great Uni I attended there Film and media Production course at the Film School but left to work Ft make 100k a year in a warwhousep posotion Uni is over competative
Yes, your Griffith experience is typical of the basket weaving degrees that flow out of Griffith “Uni”. Thank you for being honest enough to say so. Handing this important and beautiful building to them is a travesty.
Wouldn't the Uni want to tear it down as it is a remnant of Australia's _"racist colonialist and Capitalist"_ past?
What a shame. Griffith “Uni” will simply fill it with foreign students doing basket weaving degrees (or similar) in order to get Australian citizenship. The Government should have thought through a better option for this historic site for a use that would enable some degree of public access, as the Casino allowed previously. Not that I’m a big fan of casinos. That building is Brisbane’s version of the Casino in Monte Carlo if you’ve ever been there. A draw card to the city and a fabulous experience. Now it will just be shut up for the benefit of a few unimportant students and overpaid teaching staff. Shame.
So it's OK for a beautiful building to be owned by a company found to be a major contributor to illegal behaviour and money laundering?
@@derekdouglas5007 I assume you’re referring to Casino’s, where I made my view quite plain.