Regardless of Olympic games or not, Brisbane needs a new world class stadium. Victoria Park would be an ideal location with great transport links and great position to showcase the city.
Would be great but let's be honest the numbers are out of control. 3.4 Billion would be the 2nd most expensive stadium in the world, the price for what is proposed should be alot less, brown bags and union corruption is the problem
A Victoria Park stadium would be a disaster. This is a perfect piece of green space close to the city akin to Hyde Park in London and Central Park in New York. The public have already commented about how they want Victoria Park to look and building a concrete and steel monstrosity was not one of the options.
It's not going to use up the whole of Victoria Park. Instead of Hyde Park, it's more of a SCG in Moore Park/ Centennial Park. Or an Adelaide Oval/ Pennington Gardens situation, or a MCG/ Yarra park situation. There's also a chance for Victoria Park to benefit: a stadium with landbridge (like the renders in this video) would both link the two parks (Gregory Tce & Vic Park) into one larger park, as well as kill off the traffic noise from the ICB. If you've been to Vic Park, you'll know that a huge chunk of it is just unusable due to that traffic noise. This could help solve that issue.
@@farmerooniit is very hard to tell but it looks like the stadium will dominate the park with a whole heap of new buildings over what used to be the golf course- I’m not sure what that’s about but looks like very little green space left.
@@garycoulter7172 You can relax about the buildings: that was a concept render for the athletics village, back before the final location was chosen. The athlete's village is set to be built near the North Shore (where they will become future public housing.) The Quirk report made it clear Victoria Park site is for a stadium only -no additional buildings. This means only about 13% of the park is required. The rest is green space.
@@farmeroonithat would make sense . Maybe we will hear more about the private development by the river although there are lots of moving parts to satisfy a private developer and the needs of the Olympics.
Olympic Stadium at Northshore Hamilton makes sense since the project site is right next to Brisbane River where lots of mega construction material and equipment can be brought in via barges & vessels from ANYWHERE in the world !! We need a NEW MEGA Sporting & Entertainment Complex to rival Sydney and Melbourne - can’t keep playing second fiddle to these two venues. We owe it to current and future Queenslanders !! 😊
@B-tr9kz I don't know that we'd fill a 70K stadium today.... bet we are talking the future legacy of QLD here... how many NRL, AFL, cricket, or concerts sell out the current Gabba or Suncorp capacities now? What's this going to look like in the next 10, 15, 20yr lifespan of a new world-class stadium. You can't look to only fill the needs of today when looking to spend $3B+
@ports83 there's huge demand for major artists like Tayor Swift, Coldplay evidenced by sold out stadiums in Sydney and Melbourne. Even with the Metallica concert set to happen in Suncorp Stadium next year here in Brissie, I couldn't get a single ticket on all pre-sale and general public booking windows.
I have a slightly ambitious idea. Northshore stadium would be ideal as it would fuel the growth for the region. Move the airport to Ipswich(or similar areas) similar to Syd, and create a second business district. With a population growth ahead we need area to grow and the area around Northshore would be amazing to fuel these. With the airport not being there, this would help build taller building and help residents avoid the terrible noise. Moving to ipswich(or similar areas) has minimal noice pollution meaning no curfew and more air traffic, means more travellers better economy. Also having a second cbd would also encourage more companies to invest in Brisbane, more infrastructure, more opportunities. With most areas being near the river, this could be used as transport for materials to help ease traffic and congestion. Just a thought.
If that’s the move, an airport out at Ipswich, then I would go a step further: Connect Ipswich and Brisbane by high speed rail. It could be the first leg of the proposed high speed network between Gold Coast, Brisbane, Ipswich, Toowoomba, Sunshine Coast. This was proposed back in 2019
Brisbane is at a stage where Sydney was in the 90's when it won the Olympics. Similar population at the same time too. Sydney was transformed into a world city with world class facilities. This is Brisbane's time, and a world class stadium as well as other venues, facilities and infrastructure is needed. This decade will make or break south east QLD. So it has to be done right. I think a new stadium is numero uno to making Brisbane a world city. A stadium that can stand the test of time and bring world events to QLD. This is Brisbane's moment. So I hope it doesn't get mucked up.
Brisbane needs a world class venue with a seating capacity 70k+ which can be used beyond the 2032 Olympics. Premier Crisafulli needs to accept the independent recommendations following the promised 100 day review. Victoria Park is the ideal location, it has ample green space, within walking distance to the CBD, would only need to add 1 extra train station between Bowen Hills & Roma St. providing easy accessibility.
Only AFL, Cricket, and a few concerts are using it after the Olympics. At 70k, it will be a white elephant. Rugby League, Union, and Soccer won't play there.
Thanks Mel, great summary. Brisbane currently has an accidental local oval stadium for cricket and AFL, that is way too constrained for modernisation. Vic Park seems the obvious choice, and follows Perth's similar debate and decision 8 years ago that meant dropping Subiaco and building new Perth Stadium, 60k seats, an open park venue with great train and pedestrian access. We need the same. And they're not hosting the Olympics! Note that we now have the AFL premier (Brisbane Lions) who will be overselling the 37,000 Gabba seats far too often in coming years. Only Hobart has a smaller AFL stadium...
I prefer the Hamilton North Shore proposal. . The Gabba and Suncorp have overgrown their locations. The state needs something new. . The political point scoring needs to end because Brisbane 2032 is an embarrassment already.
Northshore is the ideal location IMO. It would also lead to a public transport legacy with the revamping of the Doomben line (although this would somewhat conflict with Metro expansion, but I think the other Metro extensions are planned first anyway) That said, I still like Mel's proposal of a new Gabba stadium above the CRR station... who knows, maybe that doesn't count as a 'new stadium' if it's still called the Gabba?
@@nevilletisch9914 Almost every sports stadium in North America is privately owned. I'm honestly not sure why it's the public that should foot the bill for a stadium that is primarily used by private sports teams and tour promoters?
@@krushingkobra Because its not a cost to the public. If anything it would make them money instead of the private operator. The Northshore option just gives away that land for a private company to forever profit on. How is that fair?
You are right, not only is a new stadium not popular, but nor are the games which will cost the state a mountain of cash, when that mountain could be used to build a better and more flood proof road and rail network to help central and north Queensland st ay connected to the rest of the state during a flood.
Love the positive vide MP and glad to see the premier rolling up he’s sleeve and going for it. We’ve all heard it… if you build it … they will come… so let’s not embarrass ourselves!
I would love to see acacia ridge turned from its industrial hellscape into an Olympic park with a 70,000 seat stadium and also move Brisbane live there. And put high density urban development and green space and a train station. The exsisting interstate rail line already runs through there so all you really need to focus on is transforming the space.
Personally, I'd prefer to keep Victoria Park as a greenspace with the BCC vision on that area. I think Northshore would be best, the lands state owned and It would be close to the airport and the Doomben line and be easily be re-extended again and to link up with the athletes village and the broader vision for the Northshore development but I do hope that it stays state owned though and after the Olympics, the government can use the athletes village for public housing.
Perhaps after the Olympics once a contracts up for the airport line the QLD government can buy it back and route it into the Doomben line and hopefully as time goes on there can be some more development near the existing train stations similar to the Nundah Village with shops, apartments and some hotels etc so people that come here from the airport for any events around the city or the North shore stadium can easily get around via the trains taking more pressure off our roads.
Once the Gabba has reached it's end of life maybe then the government can reconsider a rebuild or to tear it down and build more apartments moving the events for the Gabba to sunscorp the new stadium.
North shore is a perfect spot for the stadium. Close to airport, river and activating all the land along the north bank of the river as it becomes available for development. Space for Doomben line to be dual line already. North shore no brainer!
1000 times yes, family and tourist orientated park in a growing city, especially as apartments and smaller hosing blocks continue. Large concrete monoliths and novel small green areas surrounding the carparks is not the required option.
I would like to see an Olympic park precinct built at acacia ridge. Think about it. It’s an industrial area now but it’s on the interstate rail line and the alignment of the future Salisbury to Beaudesert corridor. We could demolish the industrial area, build a station, and then build the flagship stadium on the site as well as Brisbane live. We can put in an aquatic centre too, the athletes village, international broadcast centre for the games, to be converted to office space after the games, a shopping centre, hospital, an hotel, a university and lots of green space. After the games, the athletes village could become affordable high density transit oriented development.
I don't think that idea would work. Acacia Ridge is the loading/ unloading point for ship freight to rail. After spending monsterous amounts of cash on the inland freight rail system between Brisbane/ Sydney/ Melbourne, it's extremely unlikely they'll turn around and scrap Acacia Ridge. It's also a terrible location for a stadium: even further out than QSAC by distance. And even further out by public transport than the NorthShore, Toombul, Boondall or any other of the proposed outlier sites.
@@farmerooni it may be further out but thats also a good thing too as you have more space and ultimately the post games legacy would be to turn that area into Brisbane's second CBD. It would be similar to Sydneys Olympic Park.
@@threestumps7560 port of brisbane. Also we dont need to take up all of acacia ridge. We can probably fit this facility in the northern part with plenty of space to spare
@electro_sykes nice idea, but sorry: not going to happen for Brisbane. Sydney's Olympic Park was created specifically because the CBD already had sports stadiums (SCG and Allianz stadium,) which features very good public transport and walkability to the city for bars and restaurants. The Olympic Park was built as legacy sports infrastructure for the emerging satellite city of the western suburbs. Brisbane will need a replacement CBD stadium, it makes the most sense for public transport. The best satellite sports park you can do is go further out where the new emerging population centres are. Logan, Springfield and Moreton Bay are all planning for future satellite CBD's. For example, the old Mill next to the Petrie USC campus is being setup for a future sports precinct, since Petrie is earmarked to become the northern hub.
I really like the idea of the Northshore Stadium but it is way too expensive, sure it might be floated as privately funded but that comes with its own positives and negatives. If they did go with that one I think they'd need to seriously look hard at the public transportation options around that area. A bit further out we have the BICT (Cruise Terminal) which itself is a great facility but like many others in Brisbane it lacks the connections elsewhere and anything worth looking at or doing nearby it. We wouldn't want our shiny new stadium to be that embarrassing.
I still think victoria park will be the most likely. Due to the Brisbane City Council heavily pushing it and now has a friendly state government. I myself would prefer the Hamilton proposal, however Victoria Park or even Gabba rebuild is still a very good option. But something we can all agree on is that QSAC was a terrible plan and thank goodness it has been thrown in the trash before Brisbane was made to look like trash.
@@Matt_JJz Olympics is usually given to large cities with existing large stadiums. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity for Brisbane to grow up out of the big country town stereotype and compete as an equally global Australian city with Sydney and Melbourne
@@MelPikos I have a feeling it was done out of spite due to LNP winning the council elections as it happened almost immeditally after. But yeah QSAC was a terrible option.
@ltsmash9544 QSAC for a one use stadium is horrifically expensive, surrounded by nothing, will not serve us long term and has no public transit connections
I truly don't understand why there so many comments wanting it to be 70,000 or more seats. 50-55k is a significant upgrade from 36k at the current Gabba. After the Olympics, the only sporting events that are going to be played there are Lions games and cricket. I don't see either going anywhere near that capacity. I repeat, this stadium WON'T be used for State of Origin, or any other major event for rectangular sports. Keep it at 50-55k.
Why won't it? Sydney's Olympic Stadium was built with adjustable side-stands. It used to host cricket games before the Olympics. Right now it hosts nothing but NRL games, including State of Origin. What's stopping Brisbane from building a similar reconfigurable stadium and hosting the Broncos there (with Dolphins still playing at Suncorp) as well as AFL and Cricket games?
@@farmerooni I don't think you realise how terrible watching rectangular sports is at Accor Stadium. You feel miles away from the field and its soulless. There's a reason the NRL is trying to push the NSW government to knock it down and rebuild it as a rectangular stadium. Broncos, Dolphins and Maroons won't play there. It would be a downgrade for them. They have an awesome purpose built Rugby League venue in Suncorp Stadium that they will push for upgrades in a decades time. Can you imagine the outrage if the Maroons moved their games from Suncorp Stadium to an oval stadium with retractable wings. People would riot.
@B-tr9kz Surely it can't be that bad of an experience if they're still hosting State of Origin games there? But okay, let's say i is. i'd still expect retractable side stand technology would have improved since the late 90's. There's plenty of other soccer cities with Olympic style stadiums throughout the world that have had to solve the same issues. It doesn't have to be a downgrade for the fans if it's done right.
@@farmerooni Accor Stadium only hosts it because the next biggest stadium in Sydney for RL is 40k. It's a touch too small for SOO and the GF. I'm sorry but retractable seating just doesn't work for rectangular sports. It might work for the people in the lower level, but the rest have to sit far away from the action as you can't retract the whole stadium. There's no way you can make a stadium that is perfect for both oval and rectangular sports. They are just too different. Seriously why would the Broncos, Dolphins, Maroons or any other rectangular sport team want to use an oval stadium when a world class rectangular stadium is down the road. Are you suggesting they knock down the spiritual home of Queensland Rugby League in Suncorp Stadium and force these teams to use the stadium? Their attendances would plummet as the viewing experience would be worse than Suncorp. Rebuild the Gabba to 50-55k and down the road you can upgrade Suncorp to 60k and put a roof on it. Everyone wins.
@@B-tr9kz Whoa, no one's suggesting demolishing Suncorp Stadium. Why would they do that? And as for the Dolphins, Broncos, Roar, Reds (and any other minor team currently using Suncorp to host their games) -there's going to be a need for more stadiums by 2032 due to the larger population. Especially since there's already complaints about over-worked turf at Suncorp due to so many teams using just the one stadium. In the end, this isn't about rectangular stadiums: the Gabba has to be demolished and replaced. That's just facts. It's in the Quirk report, there's plenty of other news sites and comments discussing just why it has to go (too costly to repair) and why it isn't fit for purpose. The only argument I put forward is: if you're going to build a large capacity stadium, why not try to kill two birds with one stone to benefit all codes? It reduces future demand on Suncorp, it accommodates the AFL and Cricket, and it's a justifiable Olympics expenditure whilst meeting legacy requirements. Your final argument has an extremely low chance of happening: no government's going to justify rebuilding the Gabba AND upgrading Suncorp for the Olympics. Too much cost and not enough pay-off. You're better off waiting until Suncorp hits it's mid-life refresh period (sometime mid to late 2030's.) By that stage a 60k rectangular stadium upgrade might have the number of spectators to justify the costs.
Victoria Park if its anything like artist impressions would be great. Lots of green space, walkable, an area like the botanical gardens but with more usable infrastructure.
It has to be Victoria Park it has everything to make an Olympic stadium and precinct the best location ever. They will provide a true legacy that will inspire everyone in Brisbane to join together and make something special happen.
It has to be Victoria Park it has everything to make an Olympic stadium and precinct the best location ever. They will provide a true legacy that will inspire everyone in Brisbane to join together and make something special happen.
I'm for Victoria Park or Gabba rebuild, North sure is too far away from public transport and with the riverlink, Gabba of Vicky park makes the most sense. But I'm more stoked about QE2 not getting a single $.
I think we need to build the stadium at the sleeman centre, there is tones of land and not to many people that live near by so concerts and other loud events wouldn't affect as many people, and with the extra land the government can build dedicated infrastructure to allow for transport to and from the venue
Actually acacia ridge is a better spot. Think about it. It’s an industrial area now but it’s on the interstate rail line and the alignment of the future Salisbury to Beaudesert corridor. We could demolish the industrial area, build a station, and then build the flagship stadium on the site as well as Brisbane live. We can put in an aquatic centre too, the athletes village, international broadcast centre for the games, to be converted to office space after the games, a shopping centre, hospital, an hotel, a university and lots of green space. After the games, the athletes village could become affordable high density transit oriented development.
Just. Spend. The money. I hate it when oppositions and News outlets complain about "budget blowouts" and overspending when it comes to infrastructure. Let's be real, the majority of infrastructure end up bringing in money which means they end up paying themselves off pretty quickly and are a social and economical benefit to the state. This goes for Brisbane, the outer cities and the regions.
Sydney was already a world city, and had a population well over 4mil…Unfortunately most of the world hasn’t heard of Brisbane let alone know where it is….Brisbane population is 2.4 mil…Sydney didn’t suddenly become a world city following the games….it just had incredible exposure…and was booted along by landmarks that are known around the globe and the harbour which was the main stage….Brissy doesn’t have any of that. Following the Sydney games the city authorities said “never again”…and remember Brisbane got it because no other city wanted it…it was handed to us with a please please take it…..
Actually acacia ridge is a better spot. Think about it. It’s an industrial area now but it’s on the interstate rail line and the alignment of the future Salisbury to Beaudesert corridor. We could demolish the industrial area, build a station, and then build the flagship stadium on the site as well as Brisbane live. We can put in an aquatic centre too, the athletes village, international broadcast centre for the games, to be converted to office space after the games, a shopping centre, hospital, an hotel, a university and lots of green space. After the games, the athletes village could become affordable high density transit oriented development.
@@SIRROM12 it's almost as if tier 2 cities are generally blocked from having better infrastructure than the tier 1 cities. Brisbane will become tier 1 on par with Sydney and Melbourne in the not too distant future and have its own global appeal and identity. This is a once in a generation opportunity to fast track that
Hey MP, love the content mate 👍 question … what’s your thoughts and inside info regarding the zoning changes in Goldie. Mr Myles stalled on approving the final changes after 5 years of Labor dragging the anchor. With a new premier how will he approach housing with the northern migration about to start ? I’m asking about the Targeted Growth Areas scheme.
Great Video Mel - I trust now that we have some sensible heads in power we will see a good result. IMO the following is an excellent outcome for all, spent the money and reap the benefits, we have one opportunity: VIC Park Olympic Stadium with 70k seats Gabba 1.1 - Extend life of the stadium (excellent transport connections after CRR) Brisbane Arena need to be kept at its original location right next to Roma St station (moving the Arena to the back of the park makes it as much as a trek as getting to Suncorp?) 🤞
I think I would go as far to turn Suncorp into a 30k stadium (due to being bricked in with residential areas and can’t be expanded and also limitations with events over 30k with only 20 major games which can played per year) and have systems in the new stadium where the pitch and turf is retractable…. Learn from the new Madrid stadium but we will expand that to seating as well as pitch, yeah will be like Wellington for oval sports but I feel it’s the best option. Victoria park would be desirable due to Gabba being also bricked in by roads, even with school removal it’s won’t be enough. Need to be 70k for oval sport and extra 2k for rectangular sports.
@ the sucky thing with Suncorp is it’s limits due to its government restrictions with major events over 30k… whack a few big games and that gets eaten… and also its due for a reno but really limited in space.
It should be in the Wooloongabba ,but simply renovate the old Gabba as the training track and cancel any plans and contracts for apartments and offices above Gabba Station and build a new stadium there. It’s big enough.
Actually acacia ridge is a better spot. Think about it. It’s an industrial area now but it’s on the interstate rail line and the alignment of the future Salisbury to Beaudesert corridor. We could demolish the industrial area, build a station, and then build the flagship stadium on the site as well as Brisbane live. We can put in an aquatic centre too, the athletes village, international broadcast centre for the games, to be converted to office space after the games, a shopping centre, hospital, an hotel, a university and lots of green space. After the games, the athletes village could become affordable high density transit oriented development.
So the new premier elect campaigned on the public opinion and promised no new stadiums (but the fine print really says ‘I will follow what the committee says we should do’), which we think might be a new stadium proposal… haha ok! 🎉
Get rid of the low performing East Brisbane State School and upgrade the Gabba. Fun fact - over half of the students parents at EBSS were pro for moving the school to Coorparoo Secondary college anyway. Gabba is reaching the end of its life and needs the upgrade.
More excited - Thank heaven the new government just elected seems to have the foresight to provide new Stadium that will be a enormous legacy of the Games- Victoria Park would be great spot or maybe Hamilton 👍👍
@@MelPikosI’ll keep saying this - Victoria Park is held in trust as public open space, it can’t be built on. You can bet your life local residents will fight this all the way to the High Court.
@@MelPikos the adults are now in charge? are you forgetting how incompetent the LNP have been for queenslanders in the past? The LNP do what they want for THEMSELVES and it sucks to see yourself falling for their Fresh Start BS. They do this every single time they have power in Australia, spend our money, not listen to us on where its needed to be spent. I used to love watching your videos, now I cant click away fast enough. Stop licking David Boot's and be neutral, thats why we watch you Mel. I didnt vote labor fyi.
Hamilton. Close to Airport and Gateway bridge meaning southern traffic won’t be dragged through the already congested city. VIC park would be a disaster traffic wise.
Actually acacia ridge is a better spot. Think about it. It’s an industrial area now but it’s on the interstate rail line and the alignment of the future Salisbury to Beaudesert corridor. We could demolish the industrial area, build a station, and then build the flagship stadium on the site as well as Brisbane live. We can put in an aquatic centre too, the athletes village, international broadcast centre for the games, to be converted to office space after the games, a shopping centre, hospital, an hotel, a university and lots of green space. After the games, the athletes village could become affordable high density transit oriented development.
Whatever is chosen Construction needs to start before the 2028 election and the LNP is voted out, History Suggests ALP will likely be elected in 2028 as Post Joh Borbridge was voted out after just 2 years while Newman only lasted 3
Does anyone realise part of the Olympic submission and part of the Olympic committees own recommendations are to use existing infrastructure across numerous regional cities. Building a new stadium is not on the table regardless, at least not for the Olympics.
But the IOC said a new stadium can be built, but it can't be just for the Games. Logically this means its a replacement arena for AFL and cricket long term
Gabba rebuild all the way. The school should've been moved decades ago. It's not safe for kids to cross, play, and learn around south Brisbane's busiest roads. Tunnel sections of roads to increase stadium footprint and allow for easy foot traffic in and out of stadium. No need for more PT as we've got CRR there ... mass transport. Consider building closer to CRR if needed and tunnel Main St, Vulture or Stanley or all of them as needed ... not whole streets. Just what is needed. Could also improve traffic flow by removing traffic lights given two side streets are one-way. Build for population of 4 million, make it legacy eg Allegiant stadium. Make it 80k. Let's rock 💪🤙🍾
@jimmyboy2 yeah. No space for The Gabba to go bigger. Leave that as it is - just refurbish and maybe convert to social housing in future. Victoria Park or Northshore is the way to go
@Gary-vv5gt hence use some tunnels where needed to increase stadium footprint. Engineering is easy. With the stadium demolished, a temporary road could be made where the stadium is now while tunnels built. So no need for boring machine just dig it out ... built it like a bridge. Not difficult.
Brisbane Entertainment centre at Boondall is beside a train station, a motorway, 10 minutes from the airport. The carparks are 500 metres long (you could build athletes village on top). Could extend the airport link tunnel from Nundah to Boondall.
I hope The Gabba rebuild could be come true. But we’ll see of what David Crisafulli gives the update for the 2032 Olympic Games as it’s good to have him as the QLD premier.
I'm really hopeful the Victoria Park plan will be what goes ahead. The extra reclamation of land by building over the ICB and rail corridor would do wonders to better connect the north side with the CBD along with all the other benefits. But your proposal that you made a while back of sticking a new stadium on top of the Woolloongabba station and tearing down Gabba with possibly building a smaller/supporting venue there has merit too. Especially given the stink kicked up by the school nearbyy when it was earmarked to close down
Actually acacia ridge is a better spot. Think about it. It’s an industrial area now but it’s on the interstate rail line and the alignment of the future Salisbury to Beaudesert corridor. We could demolish the industrial area, build a station, and then build the flagship stadium on the site as well as Brisbane live. We can put in an aquatic centre too, the athletes village, international broadcast centre for the games, to be converted to office space after the games, a shopping centre, hospital, an hotel, a university and lots of green space. After the games, the athletes village could become affordable high density transit oriented development.
I think Victoria Park is the best option. Its proximity to the inner northern busway and a train line make it ideal. Another idea would be to build a large concourse over the ICB for pedestrians to easily access Spring Hill where we should build a new world class indoor swimming venue at the rear of the existing Centenary Aquatic Centre. Hosting the swimming at the Brisbane Live Arena is a horrible idea… it should be used for Basketball
As for the Olympic stadium build a new one that holds 120 tho people at the spare land next to the Boondall entertainment center. It already has infostructure in place for massive movements of people and right next to the highway and train stations there is 2 of them. Or build it right next to the highway at the road out to the airport. Wasting time and money pulling something apart to rebuild that is useless. Brisbane needs a larger stadium to bring international acts here over the next 50 years.
If you're barracking for Boondall, why not just barrack for the Toombul site instead? The shopping centre's already demolished (unlike Boondall stadium), there's two train lines running right past it (one more than Boondall) and it's closer to the city.
@@farmerooni Who said anything about pulling it down. There is more land beside it larger in area than any stadium and enough to extend the carparking area. There is 4 times the area there of the Gabba. You want a stadium built away from housing so there is less noise impact from late night concerts. It has better transport infostructure than Toombul as being right beside the freeway and massively less housing. Boondall entertainment center is owned by Stadiums Queensland. Toombul is not owned by the Govt for a start and as far as i know the plans have already been passed for another shopping center and housing. They also need another shopping center there to take away some of the people from Chermside shopping center. That place is hell since Toombul got washed out. Oh the second line past Toombul is not owned by Queensland rail. It is a dedicated airport only line owned by a private company. Could be changed to have a station there if needed
@@BrettNoneya Yeah the Toombul site comments are all fair -I don't like this as an option either. It's just a better location than Boondall is though. I like your enthusiasm, but isn't the land around Boondall protected wetlands? It would be like trying to build another Toondah harbour at Cleveland... Trying to steal land from the critically endangered Eastern Curlew nesting grounds would be political suicide for any state MP or local councillor, and would highly likely be veetoed at the federal level. Personally I agree with the mases: Boondall entertainment centre is a poor location and one of the biggest white elephants in Brisbane. There's a reason they're demolishing it and replacing it with Brisbane Live: no one likes the location.
@@farmerooni Not sure if the area north of the Entertainment center is wetlands or not but it is huge and empty. Boondall wetlands is listed as the other side of the highway. Not sure why the Entertaiment center is a white elephant it is used all the time. I lived in Boondall for 15 years and all up 25 years in close suburbs. Taken my kids there for driving experience over the last 12 months and the front car parks are empty of a day as they are far from an entrance to the building. Go around the back and there are normally heaps of cars. We have gone their heaps of times of a day for things like Australia's got talent, The wiggles, Hi 5 and of a night been to rock concerts and the Crusty Demons motorcross. Going to the city for events is a joke as there is nowhere to park and the trains and busses are very slow at getting people out of the city. New years eve was pure hell. Id rather be in an air conditioned car in a bit of traffic than standing amongst 5000 people holding a bag or two and more than half of them stink. I won't pick on cultures but god some reek.
So whatever happened to the stadium above Roma St?? Don't hear much about that anymore. This Olympics is suuuuch an embarrassment......can we give it to Glasgow?
Yes there is heaps of land at Victoria Park and above/next to the ICB so let's not waste the airspace around there either! Then Gabba can eventually be bulldozed and build housing. The space is too small around the Gabba and too congested. Housing / retail works better there with the train station. Victoria Park is a beautiful location for a stadium and moments walk from Exhibition train station that would obviously have a new pedestrian link built to get to the new venue on foot. Ps. Stadium must have enough capacity to be a minimum 80/90k as it will be there 50+ years lets do it right the first time. It needs to be like MCG.
Also, this will be paid back ten fold come the games & we'll beyond. Don't give me this bs "I don't want my tax payer money going to this, or it's too expensive. We'll I don't want my tax payer money going into Suncorp Stadium, that would be an utter waste! Would make zero back after the games & zero legacy. Spen the money on Vic Park, get our money return 10x over & create a Legacy, then footy & cricket continues afterwards!
So he promised no new stadium at the same time as promising to abide by the recommendations of an independent review which may well recommend a new stadium? QSAC was a terrible idea & the Gabba should be redeveloped but seriously? That's slimy in the extreme. He's just another career politician doublespeaking to the electorate.
A sporting and entertainment precinct at Vic Park with easy walking access to the exhibition station and the venues around the showgrounds would be great. Think something like Optus Stadium in Perth. Its a great venue with parklands and venues close by with around 65k capacity.
Victoria Park is the go! Create an amazing sports precinct where all the national sports bodies can be housed. Cricket and AFL can continue to play at the Gabba while it gets built. Then the Gabba can become the second CBD afterwards and have a park in the middle of the Gabba so people can play on the old wicket!
I still like the idea of a Gabba rebuild but I just don't think it will get the seating capacity it needs. Seeing a lot of comments for a 70k+ stadium. We need 100k plus. Melbourne achieved this milestone in the 50s with a population a fraction of the current SEQ population. With the right infrastructure 100k would be a game for the city!
@B-tr9kz I mean that is what a stadium is. It doesn't have to be a white elephant though. It could be a mixed used space with the stadium at the heart.
@@shadowhuntagaming No I mean a 100k stadium would never be filled. AFL isn't that popular in Brisbane to attract anywhere near a 100k crowd and Cricket won't. The only yearly sporting event that I can think of that would fill that is State of Origin, and they won't ever leave Suncorp for an oval stadium.
@@B-tr9kz I think there is an opportunity for a lot more bigger concerts that would typically only hit Sydney and Melbourne. In saying that having a larger capacity may drive ticket prices down as they strive to fill the stadium, and if we continue to see downward pressure on public transport, supported by better connectivity into the suburbs, whose to say a Broncos v Dolphins game can't pull 85k - 90k? I think the big bash would give it a good run as well.
Vic park is a blank canvas and common sense tells me this is the one to go with it. Resume the Gabba and Qpac spaces and sell it off for other things. Use the money towards Vic park. That North shore option however looks like a world class landmark that would become iconic though!
And the rest of us in Regional QLD don’t give a damn about it. We see all our tax dollars spent in the SE when they are all earned in central QLD, especially from the coal industry.
Nonsense. All that coal money goes directly into bank accounts overseas. Labor made them pay more for OUR minerals so we could actually build the infrastructure and services we need. You can kiss that money goodbye now that the Tory wreckers are in, they plan to give our minerals away for sweet bugger all.
Victoria Park or Northshore are the alternatives. AFL and Cricket bodies refused to offer any money to relocate during the build, I want zero funds going to them! The scheme currently for Northshore is fanciful. We would need a stadium in the round for 55,000 to 60,000 after the games configuration. The ground at Northshore is bound to be contaminated and toxic. Hotels and office space around the stadium could help pay for it. Victoria Park could connect with exhibition ground and sports venues. Why are we building a swimming venue to pull down, I do not agree with that. Need to shift that venue for costs to Roma St Parklands, and possibly keep the swim venues. The Gabba may be upgraded in 15 years as we must think 20 and 30 years out. transport to Northshore or Victoria Park is good and connected to Trains. Would noise from Victoria Park affect Hospital patients?
Actually acacia ridge is a better spot. Think about it. It’s an industrial area now but it’s on the interstate rail line and the alignment of the future Salisbury to Beaudesert corridor. We could demolish the industrial area, build a station, and then build the flagship stadium on the site as well as Brisbane live. We can put in an aquatic centre too, the athletes village, international broadcast centre for the games, to be converted to office space after the games, a shopping centre, hospital, an hotel, a university and lots of green space. After the games, the athletes village could become affordable high density transit oriented development.
brisbrane needt a new olympic multie stadium about 70.000-100 .000 buth the ghabba is the besth option for the city as wel the peopel of queenslandt enth the world of course
Write the cheque to the IOC. Cancel the Olympics. Why should every other taxpayer outside of Queensland have to contribute to Palaszczuk’s electoral brain stroke?
This is a bit like the US 'donating' money to Ukraine where the majority of it goes to US arms manufacturing, in this case the majority of money for the Olympics will be used to bring Brisbanes infrastructure up to scratch and then show a big chunk of the world once it's done Also need I remind you that every taxpayer IN Queensland supported both Melbourne in 1956 and Sydney in 2000 when they had their Olympic games...
Ehh brissy yes it’s racist but it’s casual about it…. Compare that to Japan… or any other mono race countries…. Yes they don’t show it but they make brissy and qld more tolerant
Regardless of Olympic games or not, Brisbane needs a new world class stadium. Victoria Park would be an ideal location with great transport links and great position to showcase the city.
Vic Park would be fantastic. I'm happy with any of the 3 options, as long as we get one!
@@George-dl7gv 100%
@@MelPikos by the way, love your presentations.
Would be great but let's be honest the numbers are out of control. 3.4 Billion would be the 2nd most expensive stadium in the world, the price for what is proposed should be alot less, brown bags and union corruption is the problem
@nevilletisch9914 IMO unions have quite a bit to answer for when it comes to the cost of large scale projects.
A Victoria Park stadium would be a disaster. This is a perfect piece of green space close to the city akin to Hyde Park in London and Central Park in New York. The public have already commented about how they want Victoria Park to look and building a concrete and steel monstrosity was not one of the options.
It's not going to use up the whole of Victoria Park. Instead of Hyde Park, it's more of a SCG in Moore Park/ Centennial Park. Or an Adelaide Oval/ Pennington Gardens situation, or a MCG/ Yarra park situation.
There's also a chance for Victoria Park to benefit: a stadium with landbridge (like the renders in this video) would both link the two parks (Gregory Tce & Vic Park) into one larger park, as well as kill off the traffic noise from the ICB.
If you've been to Vic Park, you'll know that a huge chunk of it is just unusable due to that traffic noise. This could help solve that issue.
@@farmerooniit is very hard to tell but it looks like the stadium will dominate the park with a whole heap of new buildings over what used to be the golf course- I’m not sure what that’s about but looks like very little green space left.
Why not transform acacia ridge
@@garycoulter7172 You can relax about the buildings: that was a concept render for the athletics village, back before the final location was chosen. The athlete's village is set to be built near the North Shore (where they will become future public housing.)
The Quirk report made it clear Victoria Park site is for a stadium only -no additional buildings. This means only about 13% of the park is required. The rest is green space.
@@farmeroonithat would make sense . Maybe we will hear more about the private development by the river although there are lots of moving parts to satisfy a private developer and the needs of the Olympics.
Olympic Stadium at Northshore Hamilton makes sense since the project site is right next to Brisbane River where lots of mega construction material and equipment can be brought in via barges & vessels from ANYWHERE in the world !! We need a NEW MEGA Sporting & Entertainment Complex to rival Sydney and Melbourne - can’t keep playing second fiddle to these two venues.
We owe it to current and future Queenslanders !! 😊
Regardless of location, we need a 70K+ seat stadium in Brisbane
@ports83 agreed. Otherwise the likes of Taylor Swift and Coldplay won't come here
Love how many 70k+ stadium comments I'm seeing. I agree with you!
It will be a white elephant. What sporting event will be played at this stadium outside of the Olympics that is going to fill 70k?
@B-tr9kz I don't know that we'd fill a 70K stadium today.... bet we are talking the future legacy of QLD here... how many NRL, AFL, cricket, or concerts sell out the current Gabba or Suncorp capacities now? What's this going to look like in the next 10, 15, 20yr lifespan of a new world-class stadium. You can't look to only fill the needs of today when looking to spend $3B+
@ports83 there's huge demand for major artists like Tayor Swift, Coldplay evidenced by sold out stadiums in Sydney and Melbourne. Even with the Metallica concert set to happen in Suncorp Stadium next year here in Brissie, I couldn't get a single ticket on all pre-sale and general public booking windows.
I have a slightly ambitious idea.
Northshore stadium would be ideal as it would fuel the growth for the region. Move the airport to Ipswich(or similar areas) similar to Syd, and create a second business district. With a population growth ahead we need area to grow and the area around Northshore would be amazing to fuel these. With the airport not being there, this would help build taller building and help residents avoid the terrible noise. Moving to ipswich(or similar areas) has minimal noice pollution meaning no curfew and more air traffic, means more travellers better economy.
Also having a second cbd would also encourage more companies to invest in Brisbane, more infrastructure, more opportunities.
With most areas being near the river, this could be used as transport for materials to help ease traffic and congestion.
Just a thought.
If that’s the move, an airport out at Ipswich, then I would go a step further:
Connect Ipswich and Brisbane by high speed rail. It could be the first leg of the proposed high speed network between Gold Coast, Brisbane, Ipswich, Toowoomba, Sunshine Coast. This was proposed back in 2019
😂😂😂Move the airport to Ipswich...😂😂😂 Miles was dumb but you are dumber😂😂
Brisbane is at a stage where Sydney was in the 90's when it won the Olympics. Similar population at the same time too. Sydney was transformed into a world city with world class facilities. This is Brisbane's time, and a world class stadium as well as other venues, facilities and infrastructure is needed. This decade will make or break south east QLD. So it has to be done right. I think a new stadium is numero uno to making Brisbane a world city. A stadium that can stand the test of time and bring world events to QLD. This is Brisbane's moment. So I hope it doesn't get mucked up.
Put it in acacia ridge. Turn acacia ridge into our Olympic park. Area 32
Brisbane is nowhere near the size of Sydney when Sydney won the Olympics
@@richardwood9177 true but sydney did have more rail lines in the 70s when they were the same size we are today.
Brisbane needs a world class venue with a seating capacity 70k+ which can be used beyond the 2032 Olympics. Premier Crisafulli needs to accept the independent recommendations following the promised 100 day review. Victoria Park is the ideal location, it has ample green space, within walking distance to the CBD, would only need to add 1 extra train station between Bowen Hills & Roma St. providing easy accessibility.
I'd love to see a 70k+ stadium, I feel like our growing city needs it.
@@NickCzeperko exactly. Why would anyone order a review and then not follow the recommendations?
Cross River Rail is revamping Exhibition Station which would support the new stadium if it is built at Victoria Park
Only AFL, Cricket, and a few concerts are using it after the Olympics. At 70k, it will be a white elephant. Rugby League, Union, and Soccer won't play there.
@B-tr9kz, so it will be used all year round just like the Gabba 🤔 maybe more if it attracts big name performers...
Thanks Mel, great summary. Brisbane currently has an accidental local oval stadium for cricket and AFL, that is way too constrained for modernisation. Vic Park seems the obvious choice, and follows Perth's similar debate and decision 8 years ago that meant dropping Subiaco and building new Perth Stadium, 60k seats, an open park venue with great train and pedestrian access. We need the same. And they're not hosting the Olympics! Note that we now have the AFL premier (Brisbane Lions) who will be overselling the 37,000 Gabba seats far too often in coming years. Only Hobart has a smaller AFL stadium...
I prefer the Hamilton North Shore proposal.
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The Gabba and Suncorp have overgrown their locations. The state needs something new.
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The political point scoring needs to end because Brisbane 2032 is an embarrassment already.
I'd be happy with Northshore as well. I'm planning to do a follow up interview with the various architects involved in these projects, so stay tuned!
Yes but we don't want the stadium being privately owned , look at what has happened with all our assets that are now privately owned
Northshore is the ideal location IMO. It would also lead to a public transport legacy with the revamping of the Doomben line (although this would somewhat conflict with Metro expansion, but I think the other Metro extensions are planned first anyway)
That said, I still like Mel's proposal of a new Gabba stadium above the CRR station... who knows, maybe that doesn't count as a 'new stadium' if it's still called the Gabba?
@@nevilletisch9914 Almost every sports stadium in North America is privately owned. I'm honestly not sure why it's the public that should foot the bill for a stadium that is primarily used by private sports teams and tour promoters?
@@krushingkobra Because its not a cost to the public. If anything it would make them money instead of the private operator. The Northshore option just gives away that land for a private company to forever profit on. How is that fair?
You are right, not only is a new stadium not popular, but nor are the games which will cost the state a mountain of cash, when that mountain could be used to build a better and more flood proof road and rail network to help central and north Queensland st ay connected to the rest of the state during a flood.
Love the positive vide MP and glad to see the premier rolling up he’s sleeve and going for it. We’ve all heard it… if you build it … they will come… so let’s not embarrass ourselves!
I'm most excited to see the findings of the independent review. I just hope we get the best outcome for Brisbane's future.
Wise words, @NoovaRB
Don’t count on it. The LNP couldn’t organise a booze up in a brewery.
I would love to see acacia ridge turned from its industrial hellscape into an Olympic park with a 70,000 seat stadium and also move Brisbane live there. And put high density urban development and green space and a train station. The exsisting interstate rail line already runs through there so all you really need to focus on is transforming the space.
@@electro_sykes To far from the city the Entertainment Centre gets lots of shit for being at Boondall
@@TOTN17 it would have a rail line though and the idea is, we will build hotels down there and post games, it would become a second CBD
Victoria Park with at least 70000 seats. I don't know anyone who has said "Let's go to Victoria Park this weekend". It's a dead space. Use it.
Why stop at 70k, I think we should aim for 100k capacity.
Completely agree, we can turn it into something really special.
Only they can’t build it there - the park is held in trust as public open space. I’ll be out there standing with the protestors opposing it.
Why do my comments keep getting deleted?
It's a good spot for a popular golf course!
Personally, I'd prefer to keep Victoria Park as a greenspace with the BCC vision on that area.
I think Northshore would be best, the lands state owned and It would be close to the airport and the Doomben line and be easily be re-extended again and to link up with the athletes village and the broader vision for the Northshore development but I do hope that it stays state owned though and after the Olympics, the government can use the athletes village for public housing.
Perhaps after the Olympics once a contracts up for the airport line the QLD government can buy it back and route it into the Doomben line and hopefully as time goes on there can be some more development near the existing train stations similar to the Nundah Village with shops, apartments and some hotels etc so people that come here from the airport for any events around the city or the North shore stadium can easily get around via the trains taking more pressure off our roads.
Once the Gabba has reached it's end of life maybe then the government can reconsider a rebuild or to tear it down and build more apartments moving the events for the Gabba to sunscorp the new stadium.
North shore is a perfect spot for the stadium. Close to airport, river and activating all the land along the north bank of the river as it becomes available for development. Space for Doomben line to be dual line already. North shore no brainer!
1000 times yes, family and tourist orientated park in a growing city, especially as apartments and smaller hosing blocks continue. Large concrete monoliths and novel small green areas surrounding the carparks is not the required option.
I would like to see an Olympic park precinct built at acacia ridge. Think about it. It’s an industrial area now but it’s on the interstate rail line and the alignment of the future Salisbury to Beaudesert corridor. We could demolish the industrial area, build a station, and then build the flagship stadium on the site as well as Brisbane live. We can put in an aquatic centre too, the athletes village, international broadcast centre for the games, to be converted to office space after the games, a shopping centre, hospital, an hotel, a university and lots of green space. After the games, the athletes village could become affordable high density transit oriented development.
I don't think that idea would work. Acacia Ridge is the loading/ unloading point for ship freight to rail. After spending monsterous amounts of cash on the inland freight rail system between Brisbane/ Sydney/ Melbourne, it's extremely unlikely they'll turn around and scrap Acacia Ridge.
It's also a terrible location for a stadium: even further out than QSAC by distance. And even further out by public transport than the NorthShore, Toombul, Boondall or any other of the proposed outlier sites.
where would you move the industrial base and the railway yards to?
@@farmerooni it may be further out but thats also a good thing too as you have more space and ultimately the post games legacy would be to turn that area into Brisbane's second CBD. It would be similar to Sydneys Olympic Park.
@@threestumps7560 port of brisbane. Also we dont need to take up all of acacia ridge. We can probably fit this facility in the northern part with plenty of space to spare
@electro_sykes nice idea, but sorry: not going to happen for Brisbane. Sydney's Olympic Park was created specifically because the CBD already had sports stadiums (SCG and Allianz stadium,) which features very good public transport and walkability to the city for bars and restaurants.
The Olympic Park was built as legacy sports infrastructure for the emerging satellite city of the western suburbs.
Brisbane will need a replacement CBD stadium, it makes the most sense for public transport.
The best satellite sports park you can do is go further out where the new emerging population centres are. Logan, Springfield and Moreton Bay are all planning for future satellite CBD's.
For example, the old Mill next to the Petrie USC campus is being setup for a future sports precinct, since Petrie is earmarked to become the northern hub.
I really like the idea of the Northshore Stadium but it is way too expensive, sure it might be floated as privately funded but that comes with its own positives and negatives. If they did go with that one I think they'd need to seriously look hard at the public transportation options around that area. A bit further out we have the BICT (Cruise Terminal) which itself is a great facility but like many others in Brisbane it lacks the connections elsewhere and anything worth looking at or doing nearby it. We wouldn't want our shiny new stadium to be that embarrassing.
I still think victoria park will be the most likely. Due to the Brisbane City Council heavily pushing it and now has a friendly state government. I myself would prefer the Hamilton proposal, however Victoria Park or even Gabba rebuild is still a very good option.
But something we can all agree on is that QSAC was a terrible plan and thank goodness it has been thrown in the trash before Brisbane was made to look like trash.
QSAC was the worst pick of the bunch. Literally zero thought.
@@Matt_JJz Olympics is usually given to large cities with existing large stadiums. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity for Brisbane to grow up out of the big country town stereotype and compete as an equally global Australian city with Sydney and Melbourne
@@MelPikos I have a feeling it was done out of spite due to LNP winning the council elections as it happened almost immeditally after. But yeah QSAC was a terrible option.
Why not QSAC?
@ltsmash9544 QSAC for a one use stadium is horrifically expensive, surrounded by nothing, will not serve us long term and has no public transit connections
I truly don't understand why there so many comments wanting it to be 70,000 or more seats. 50-55k is a significant upgrade from 36k at the current Gabba. After the Olympics, the only sporting events that are going to be played there are Lions games and cricket. I don't see either going anywhere near that capacity. I repeat, this stadium WON'T be used for State of Origin, or any other major event for rectangular sports. Keep it at 50-55k.
Why won't it?
Sydney's Olympic Stadium was built with adjustable side-stands. It used to host cricket games before the Olympics. Right now it hosts nothing but NRL games, including State of Origin.
What's stopping Brisbane from building a similar reconfigurable stadium and hosting the Broncos there (with Dolphins still playing at Suncorp) as well as AFL and Cricket games?
@@farmerooni I don't think you realise how terrible watching rectangular sports is at Accor Stadium. You feel miles away from the field and its soulless. There's a reason the NRL is trying to push the NSW government to knock it down and rebuild it as a rectangular stadium.
Broncos, Dolphins and Maroons won't play there. It would be a downgrade for them. They have an awesome purpose built Rugby League venue in Suncorp Stadium that they will push for upgrades in a decades time. Can you imagine the outrage if the Maroons moved their games from Suncorp Stadium to an oval stadium with retractable wings. People would riot.
@B-tr9kz Surely it can't be that bad of an experience if they're still hosting State of Origin games there?
But okay, let's say i is. i'd still expect retractable side stand technology would have improved since the late 90's. There's plenty of other soccer cities with Olympic style stadiums throughout the world that have had to solve the same issues.
It doesn't have to be a downgrade for the fans if it's done right.
@@farmerooni Accor Stadium only hosts it because the next biggest stadium in Sydney for RL is 40k. It's a touch too small for SOO and the GF.
I'm sorry but retractable seating just doesn't work for rectangular sports. It might work for the people in the lower level, but the rest have to sit far away from the action as you can't retract the whole stadium. There's no way you can make a stadium that is perfect for both oval and rectangular sports. They are just too different.
Seriously why would the Broncos, Dolphins, Maroons or any other rectangular sport team want to use an oval stadium when a world class rectangular stadium is down the road.
Are you suggesting they knock down the spiritual home of Queensland Rugby League in Suncorp Stadium and force these teams to use the stadium? Their attendances would plummet as the viewing experience would be worse than Suncorp.
Rebuild the Gabba to 50-55k and down the road you can upgrade Suncorp to 60k and put a roof on it. Everyone wins.
@@B-tr9kz Whoa, no one's suggesting demolishing Suncorp Stadium. Why would they do that? And as for the Dolphins, Broncos, Roar, Reds (and any other minor team currently using Suncorp to host their games) -there's going to be a need for more stadiums by 2032 due to the larger population. Especially since there's already complaints about over-worked turf at Suncorp due to so many teams using just the one stadium.
In the end, this isn't about rectangular stadiums: the Gabba has to be demolished and replaced. That's just facts. It's in the Quirk report, there's plenty of other news sites and comments discussing just why it has to go (too costly to repair) and why it isn't fit for purpose.
The only argument I put forward is: if you're going to build a large capacity stadium, why not try to kill two birds with one stone to benefit all codes? It reduces future demand on Suncorp, it accommodates the AFL and Cricket, and it's a justifiable Olympics expenditure whilst meeting legacy requirements.
Your final argument has an extremely low chance of happening: no government's going to justify rebuilding the Gabba AND upgrading Suncorp for the Olympics. Too much cost and not enough pay-off. You're better off waiting until Suncorp hits it's mid-life refresh period (sometime mid to late 2030's.) By that stage a 60k rectangular stadium upgrade might have the number of spectators to justify the costs.
Victoria Park if its anything like artist impressions would be great. Lots of green space, walkable, an area like the botanical gardens but with more usable infrastructure.
It has to be Victoria Park it has everything to make an Olympic stadium and precinct the best location ever. They will provide a true legacy that will inspire everyone in Brisbane to join together and make something special happen.
It's certainly an underutilised part of the city right now and is ripe for activation.
It has to be Victoria Park it has everything to make an Olympic stadium and precinct the best location ever. They will provide a true legacy that will inspire everyone in Brisbane to join together and make something special happen.
I'm for Victoria Park or Gabba rebuild, North sure is too far away from public transport and with the riverlink, Gabba of Vicky park makes the most sense.
But I'm more stoked about QE2 not getting a single $.
I think we need to build the stadium at the sleeman centre, there is tones of land and not to many people that live near by so concerts and other loud events wouldn't affect as many people, and with the extra land the government can build dedicated infrastructure to allow for transport to and from the venue
Actually acacia ridge is a better spot. Think about it. It’s an industrial area now but it’s on the interstate rail line and the alignment of the future Salisbury to Beaudesert corridor. We could demolish the industrial area, build a station, and then build the flagship stadium on the site as well as Brisbane live. We can put in an aquatic centre too, the athletes village, international broadcast centre for the games, to be converted to office space after the games, a shopping centre, hospital, an hotel, a university and lots of green space. After the games, the athletes village could become affordable high density transit oriented development.
Just. Spend. The money. I hate it when oppositions and News outlets complain about "budget blowouts" and overspending when it comes to infrastructure. Let's be real, the majority of infrastructure end up bringing in money which means they end up paying themselves off pretty quickly and are a social and economical benefit to the state. This goes for Brisbane, the outer cities and the regions.
Sydney was already a world city, and had a population well over 4mil…Unfortunately most of the world hasn’t heard of Brisbane let alone know where it is….Brisbane population is 2.4 mil…Sydney didn’t suddenly become a world city following the games….it just had incredible exposure…and was booted along by landmarks that are known around the globe and the harbour which was the main stage….Brissy doesn’t have any of that. Following the Sydney games the city authorities said “never again”…and remember Brisbane got it because no other city wanted it…it was handed to us with a please please take it…..
Victoria Park or Northshore with 70-80k capacity, please.
Amen
Actually acacia ridge is a better spot. Think about it. It’s an industrial area now but it’s on the interstate rail line and the alignment of the future Salisbury to Beaudesert corridor. We could demolish the industrial area, build a station, and then build the flagship stadium on the site as well as Brisbane live. We can put in an aquatic centre too, the athletes village, international broadcast centre for the games, to be converted to office space after the games, a shopping centre, hospital, an hotel, a university and lots of green space. After the games, the athletes village could become affordable high density transit oriented development.
I like the North Shore proposal if it's anything like the renders that would be an impressive venue for Brisbane to hold for generations.
@@SIRROM12 it's almost as if tier 2 cities are generally blocked from having better infrastructure than the tier 1 cities. Brisbane will become tier 1 on par with Sydney and Melbourne in the not too distant future and have its own global appeal and identity. This is a once in a generation opportunity to fast track that
It would be a land mark for sure but do we want the stadium privately owned? That may become an issue
The Gabba as the main stadium rebuild plus other venues to be developed to accommodate all events. Luckily cross river rail started years ago!
Gabba redevelopment is the best choice for sure
How much KY jelly did you use putting this video together? David must be very happy.
Special order from Diddy?
LNP voters aren’t the brightest people and from experience bigots.
If the Victoria Park Stadium is pursued, are there any good spots to make a permanent replacement park?
Hey MP, love the content mate 👍 question … what’s your thoughts and inside info regarding the zoning changes in Goldie. Mr Myles stalled on approving the final changes after 5 years of Labor dragging the anchor. With a new premier how will he approach housing with the northern migration about to start ? I’m asking about the Targeted Growth Areas scheme.
Is it not possible to build a stadium at the Brisbane Showgrounds? That would have perfect transportation options.
Great Video Mel - I trust now that we have some sensible heads in power we will see a good result.
IMO the following is an excellent outcome for all, spent the money and reap the benefits, we have one opportunity:
VIC Park Olympic Stadium with 70k seats
Gabba 1.1 - Extend life of the stadium (excellent transport connections after CRR)
Brisbane Arena need to be kept at its original location right next to Roma St station (moving the Arena to the back of the park makes it as much as a trek as getting to Suncorp?)
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Appreciate the kind words, I am optimistic about a great result for our City and State.
The Arena was going to be built over the train tracks but that was deemed to expensive
I think I would go as far to turn Suncorp into a 30k stadium (due to being bricked in with residential areas and can’t be expanded and also limitations with events over 30k with only 20 major games which can played per year) and have systems in the new stadium where the pitch and turf is retractable…. Learn from the new Madrid stadium but we will expand that to seating as well as pitch, yeah will be like Wellington for oval sports but I feel it’s the best option.
Victoria park would be desirable due to Gabba being also bricked in by roads, even with school removal it’s won’t be enough. Need to be 70k for oval sport and extra 2k for rectangular sports.
NO, leave Suncorp alone. Don't force the Broncos and Dolphins to leave Suncorp to a oval stadium. Rectangular and oval sports don't mix
@ the sucky thing with Suncorp is it’s limits due to its government restrictions with major events over 30k… whack a few big games and that gets eaten… and also its due for a reno but really limited in space.
It should be in the Wooloongabba ,but simply renovate the old Gabba as the training track and cancel any plans and contracts for apartments and offices above Gabba Station and build a new stadium there. It’s big enough.
Actually acacia ridge is a better spot. Think about it. It’s an industrial area now but it’s on the interstate rail line and the alignment of the future Salisbury to Beaudesert corridor. We could demolish the industrial area, build a station, and then build the flagship stadium on the site as well as Brisbane live. We can put in an aquatic centre too, the athletes village, international broadcast centre for the games, to be converted to office space after the games, a shopping centre, hospital, an hotel, a university and lots of green space. After the games, the athletes village could become affordable high density transit oriented development.
So the new premier elect campaigned on the public opinion and promised no new stadiums (but the fine print really says ‘I will follow what the committee says we should do’), which we think might be a new stadium proposal… haha ok! 🎉
What watch was that, I couldn't make out exactly which it was? (daydate?)
You're correct, Day Date 40 Roman Numerals. A classic.
I actually don’t mind which of the stadiums they choose. Just happy it’s not QSAC
Get rid of the low performing East Brisbane State School and upgrade the Gabba. Fun fact - over half of the students parents at EBSS were pro for moving the school to Coorparoo Secondary college anyway.
Gabba is reaching the end of its life and needs the upgrade.
More excited - Thank heaven the new government just elected seems to have the foresight to provide new Stadium that will be a enormous legacy of the Games- Victoria Park would be great spot or maybe Hamilton 👍👍
Fingers crossed for a great outcome!
@@MelPikosI’ll keep saying this - Victoria Park is held in trust as public open space, it can’t be built on. You can bet your life local residents will fight this all the way to the High Court.
Bro is on his knees for a Crisafilling
It's cringe but it is what it is :(
Not going to lie, I'm a fan. Certainly not trying to hide it. Clearly the adults are finally in charge.
@@MelPikos the adults are now in charge? are you forgetting how incompetent the LNP have been for queenslanders in the past? The LNP do what they want for THEMSELVES and it sucks to see yourself falling for their Fresh Start BS. They do this every single time they have power in Australia, spend our money, not listen to us on where its needed to be spent.
I used to love watching your videos, now I cant click away fast enough. Stop licking David Boot's and be neutral, thats why we watch you Mel.
I didnt vote labor fyi.
@@MelPikos i made a pretty big comment replying to you here and its gone? deleting negative comments or just youtube being silly?
@@Torchlines I don't delete comments. More comments = more views. Please keep bagging me out in the comments.
Hamilton. Close to Airport and Gateway bridge meaning southern traffic won’t be dragged through the already congested city. VIC park would be a disaster traffic wise.
northshore hamilton is the clear choice. riverside magnificence.
Actually acacia ridge is a better spot. Think about it. It’s an industrial area now but it’s on the interstate rail line and the alignment of the future Salisbury to Beaudesert corridor. We could demolish the industrial area, build a station, and then build the flagship stadium on the site as well as Brisbane live. We can put in an aquatic centre too, the athletes village, international broadcast centre for the games, to be converted to office space after the games, a shopping centre, hospital, an hotel, a university and lots of green space. After the games, the athletes village could become affordable high density transit oriented development.
Whatever is chosen Construction needs to start before the 2028 election and the LNP is voted out, History Suggests ALP will likely be elected in 2028 as Post Joh Borbridge was voted out after just 2 years while Newman only lasted 3
Does anyone realise part of the Olympic submission and part of the Olympic committees own recommendations are to use existing infrastructure across numerous regional cities. Building a new stadium is not on the table regardless, at least not for the Olympics.
But the IOC said a new stadium can be built, but it can't be just for the Games. Logically this means its a replacement arena for AFL and cricket long term
Gabba rebuild all the way. The school should've been moved decades ago. It's not safe for kids to cross, play, and learn around south Brisbane's busiest roads. Tunnel sections of roads to increase stadium footprint and allow for easy foot traffic in and out of stadium. No need for more PT as we've got CRR there ... mass transport. Consider building closer to CRR if needed and tunnel Main St, Vulture or Stanley or all of them as needed ... not whole streets. Just what is needed. Could also improve traffic flow by removing traffic lights given two side streets are one-way. Build for population of 4 million, make it legacy eg Allegiant stadium. Make it 80k. Let's rock 💪🤙🍾
Even with the school being moved, it’s surrounded by 4 roads so it’s couldn’t be done to 80k unless if we remove one of the roads
@jimmyboy2 yeah. No space for The Gabba to go bigger. Leave that as it is - just refurbish and maybe convert to social housing in future. Victoria Park or Northshore is the way to go
The school buildings are heritage protected. They can’t be removed.
@coasterblocks3420 that's fine so don't move the buildings. Just the students, teachers, etc 👍
@Gary-vv5gt hence use some tunnels where needed to increase stadium footprint. Engineering is easy. With the stadium demolished, a temporary road could be made where the stadium is now while tunnels built. So no need for boring machine just dig it out ... built it like a bridge. Not difficult.
Brisbane Entertainment centre at Boondall is beside a train station, a motorway, 10 minutes from the airport. The carparks are 500 metres long (you could build athletes village on top). Could extend the airport link tunnel from Nundah to Boondall.
Boondall is freaking embarrassing
Just scrap the games.
Agreed.
Victoria Park would be nice 👍 But the capacity needs to be over 70k for seating to have any great long term benefits..
@@paulfri1569 agreed. the MCG has 100k capacity - we need to have something closer - at least 70k to 80k for the long term.
@vinayshsureshram277 Indeed 💯
@@vinayshsureshram277 It would be a white elephant. AFL isn't that popular in Brisbane to fill a 70 or 100k stadium.
Victoria Is the Australian capital of Sport
I hope The Gabba rebuild could be come true. But we’ll see of what David Crisafulli gives the update for the 2032 Olympic Games as it’s good to have him as the QLD premier.
I'm really hopeful the Victoria Park plan will be what goes ahead. The extra reclamation of land by building over the ICB and rail corridor would do wonders to better connect the north side with the CBD along with all the other benefits. But your proposal that you made a while back of sticking a new stadium on top of the Woolloongabba station and tearing down Gabba with possibly building a smaller/supporting venue there has merit too. Especially given the stink kicked up by the school nearbyy when it was earmarked to close down
Actually acacia ridge is a better spot. Think about it. It’s an industrial area now but it’s on the interstate rail line and the alignment of the future Salisbury to Beaudesert corridor. We could demolish the industrial area, build a station, and then build the flagship stadium on the site as well as Brisbane live. We can put in an aquatic centre too, the athletes village, international broadcast centre for the games, to be converted to office space after the games, a shopping centre, hospital, an hotel, a university and lots of green space. After the games, the athletes village could become affordable high density transit oriented development.
I think Victoria Park is the best option.
Its proximity to the inner northern busway and a train line make it ideal. Another idea would be to build a large concourse over the ICB for pedestrians to easily access Spring Hill where we should build a new world class indoor swimming venue at the rear of the existing Centenary Aquatic Centre. Hosting the swimming at the Brisbane Live Arena is a horrible idea… it should be used for Basketball
Victoria park no.1
Gabba is obviously the best choice
As for the Olympic stadium build a new one that holds 120 tho people at the spare land next to the Boondall entertainment center. It already has infostructure in place for massive movements of people and right next to the highway and train stations there is 2 of them. Or build it right next to the highway at the road out to the airport. Wasting time and money pulling something apart to rebuild that is useless. Brisbane needs a larger stadium to bring international acts here over the next 50 years.
If you're barracking for Boondall, why not just barrack for the Toombul site instead? The shopping centre's already demolished (unlike Boondall stadium), there's two train lines running right past it (one more than Boondall) and it's closer to the city.
@@farmerooni Who said anything about pulling it down. There is more land beside it larger in area than any stadium and enough to extend the carparking area. There is 4 times the area there of the Gabba. You want a stadium built away from housing so there is less noise impact from late night concerts. It has better transport infostructure than Toombul as being right beside the freeway and massively less housing. Boondall entertainment center is owned by Stadiums Queensland. Toombul is not owned by the Govt for a start and as far as i know the plans have already been passed for another shopping center and housing. They also need another shopping center there to take away some of the people from Chermside shopping center. That place is hell since Toombul got washed out. Oh the second line past Toombul is not owned by Queensland rail. It is a dedicated airport only line owned by a private company. Could be changed to have a station there if needed
@@BrettNoneya Yeah the Toombul site comments are all fair -I don't like this as an option either. It's just a better location than Boondall is though.
I like your enthusiasm, but isn't the land around Boondall protected wetlands? It would be like trying to build another Toondah harbour at Cleveland... Trying to steal land from the critically endangered Eastern Curlew nesting grounds would be political suicide for any state MP or local councillor, and would highly likely be veetoed at the federal level.
Personally I agree with the mases: Boondall entertainment centre is a poor location and one of the biggest white elephants in Brisbane. There's a reason they're demolishing it and replacing it with Brisbane Live: no one likes the location.
@@farmerooni Not sure if the area north of the Entertainment center is wetlands or not but it is huge and empty. Boondall wetlands is listed as the other side of the highway. Not sure why the Entertaiment center is a white elephant it is used all the time. I lived in Boondall for 15 years and all up 25 years in close suburbs. Taken my kids there for driving experience over the last 12 months and the front car parks are empty of a day as they are far from an entrance to the building. Go around the back and there are normally heaps of cars. We have gone their heaps of times of a day for things like Australia's got talent, The wiggles, Hi 5 and of a night been to rock concerts and the Crusty Demons motorcross. Going to the city for events is a joke as there is nowhere to park and the trains and busses are very slow at getting people out of the city. New years eve was pure hell. Id rather be in an air conditioned car in a bit of traffic than standing amongst 5000 people holding a bag or two and more than half of them stink. I won't pick on cultures but god some reek.
@@BrettNoneya Could replace the Entertainment Centre with a Botique Rectangular Stadium so the Roar and Reds have a more suitable home then Suncorp
Victoria Park with a roof. Keep the Gabba for test cricket. You can’t have test cricket in a roofed stadium.
Hamilton everyday of the week year decade etc
So whatever happened to the stadium above Roma St?? Don't hear much about that anymore. This Olympics is suuuuch an embarrassment......can we give it to Glasgow?
Vicky Park definitely
Yes there is heaps of land at Victoria Park and above/next to the ICB so let's not waste the airspace around there either! Then Gabba can eventually be bulldozed and build housing. The space is too small around the Gabba and too congested. Housing / retail works better there with the train station. Victoria Park is a beautiful location for a stadium and moments walk from Exhibition train station that would obviously have a new pedestrian link built to get to the new venue on foot. Ps. Stadium must have enough capacity to be a minimum 80/90k as it will be there 50+ years lets do it right the first time. It needs to be like MCG.
Also, this will be paid back ten fold come the games & we'll beyond. Don't give me this bs "I don't want my tax payer money going to this, or it's too expensive. We'll I don't want my tax payer money going into Suncorp Stadium, that would be an utter waste! Would make zero back after the games & zero legacy. Spen the money on Vic Park, get our money return 10x over & create a Legacy, then footy & cricket continues afterwards!
Just rebuild the Gabba.
Hilarious….have you ever driven in Brisbane? This is so hilarious come hold the Olympics at Brisbane car park 🅿️
So he promised no new stadium at the same time as promising to abide by the recommendations of an independent review which may well recommend a new stadium? QSAC was a terrible idea & the Gabba should be redeveloped but seriously? That's slimy in the extreme. He's just another career politician doublespeaking to the electorate.
What about Boondall entertainment centre it's such a dirty small venue
This guy is a simp for the LNP. He even admits he voted for those clowns.
A sporting and entertainment precinct at Vic Park with easy walking access to the exhibition station and the venues around the showgrounds would be great. Think something like Optus Stadium in Perth. Its a great venue with parklands and venues close by with around 65k capacity.
Victoria park
Victoria park for the win
Victoria Park is the go! Create an amazing sports precinct where all the national sports bodies can be housed. Cricket and AFL can continue to play at the Gabba while it gets built. Then the Gabba can become the second CBD afterwards and have a park in the middle of the Gabba so people can play on the old wicket!
Cancel the Olympics, I personally know 2 people that want it here.
1. North shore
2. Vic Park
3. Not the gabba
I still like the idea of a Gabba rebuild but I just don't think it will get the seating capacity it needs.
Seeing a lot of comments for a 70k+ stadium. We need 100k plus. Melbourne achieved this milestone in the 50s with a population a fraction of the current SEQ population. With the right infrastructure 100k would be a game for the city!
It would be a white elephant. All this stadium will be used for after the Olympics is Lions games, Cricket and a couple of concerts.
@B-tr9kz I mean that is what a stadium is. It doesn't have to be a white elephant though. It could be a mixed used space with the stadium at the heart.
@@shadowhuntagaming No I mean a 100k stadium would never be filled. AFL isn't that popular in Brisbane to attract anywhere near a 100k crowd and Cricket won't. The only yearly sporting event that I can think of that would fill that is State of Origin, and they won't ever leave Suncorp for an oval stadium.
@@B-tr9kz I think there is an opportunity for a lot more bigger concerts that would typically only hit Sydney and Melbourne. In saying that having a larger capacity may drive ticket prices down as they strive to fill the stadium, and if we continue to see downward pressure on public transport, supported by better connectivity into the suburbs, whose to say a Broncos v Dolphins game can't pull 85k - 90k?
I think the big bash would give it a good run as well.
@@shadowhuntagaming Broncos or Dolphins wont play home games at an oval stadium. Fans would riot.
Vic park is a blank canvas and common sense tells me this is the one to go with it. Resume the Gabba and Qpac spaces and sell it off for other things. Use the money towards Vic park. That North shore option however looks like a world class landmark that would become iconic though!
We have precious few green spaces in Brisbane and we should leave Vic Park alone. I think an existing stadium site should be used.
@@garycoulter7172 i would prefer acacia ridge, then we can turn it into a second CBD post games
Great video update. Gabba needs extra room for 100k . Best to use over the Gabba train station hub.
Lets think BIG!
With burdekin hydro project canned. Thats 10% of funds best used for creating legacy of new stadium at VP :)
absolutely sucks that got canned :( higher electricity prices for everyone + lower FIT rates for people with solar... yay :(
@@ikt123 batteries are cheaper now anyway, we can build them tomorrow
gabba rebuiid
Brisbane should just give up and give the games to Sydney, who knows how to get it done
And the rest of us in Regional QLD don’t give a damn about it. We see all our tax dollars spent in the SE when they are all earned in central QLD, especially from the coal industry.
Nonsense. All that coal money goes directly into bank accounts overseas. Labor made them pay more for OUR minerals so we could actually build the infrastructure and services we need. You can kiss that money goodbye now that the Tory wreckers are in, they plan to give our minerals away for sweet bugger all.
Victoria Park or Northshore are the alternatives. AFL and Cricket bodies refused to offer any money to relocate during the build, I want zero funds going to them! The scheme currently for Northshore is fanciful. We would need a stadium in the round for 55,000 to 60,000 after the games configuration. The ground at Northshore is bound to be contaminated and toxic. Hotels and office space around the stadium could help pay for it. Victoria Park could connect with exhibition ground and sports venues. Why are we building a swimming venue to pull down, I do not agree with that. Need to shift that venue for costs to Roma St Parklands, and possibly keep the swim venues. The Gabba may be upgraded in 15 years as we must think 20 and 30 years out. transport to Northshore or Victoria Park is good and connected to Trains. Would noise from Victoria Park affect Hospital patients?
Invest in the infrastructure, bolster and build up QSAC.
It’s not so different to Sydney’s Olympic Park.
Actually acacia ridge is a better spot. Think about it. It’s an industrial area now but it’s on the interstate rail line and the alignment of the future Salisbury to Beaudesert corridor. We could demolish the industrial area, build a station, and then build the flagship stadium on the site as well as Brisbane live. We can put in an aquatic centre too, the athletes village, international broadcast centre for the games, to be converted to office space after the games, a shopping centre, hospital, an hotel, a university and lots of green space. After the games, the athletes village could become affordable high density transit oriented development.
Hamilton.. its been trying to get off its feet for a while and it sill kinda basic
Gotta be vic park.
brisbrane needt a new olympic multie stadium about 70.000-100 .000 buth the ghabba is the besth option for the city as wel the peopel of queenslandt enth the world of course
Write the cheque to the IOC. Cancel the Olympics. Why should every other taxpayer outside of Queensland have to contribute to Palaszczuk’s electoral brain stroke?
This is a bit like the US 'donating' money to Ukraine where the majority of it goes to US arms manufacturing, in this case the majority of money for the Olympics will be used to bring Brisbanes infrastructure up to scratch and then show a big chunk of the world once it's done
Also need I remind you that every taxpayer IN Queensland supported both Melbourne in 1956 and Sydney in 2000 when they had their Olympic games...
The Olympics ? im the most rascist state in Australia ? what the hell are the I.O.C thinking ? couldnt be amore ignorant place in the world...
Ehh brissy yes it’s racist but it’s casual about it…. Compare that to Japan… or any other mono race countries…. Yes they don’t show it but they make brissy and qld more tolerant
QLD is a kind and tolerant place, full of people of every colour. It's you who is hateful and discriminatory