One other thing that the Robin's may be better at than Batman: showing emotion and opening up. Take Dick Grayson, as an example. He's a bit more charismatic than Batman.
@@aliostrowski1935 Incorrect, look at Bruce Wayne, Batman has charisma leagues above the Robins regardless if he has to fake it when playing the billionaire playboy at any kind of event where Bruce Wayne needs to appear.
Jason Todd's ability is to get shit done. Batman spends most his life fighting crime and Jason removes like 30 percent in about three hours. Same as Hawkeye ability to take out the helicarrier and Loki with a total of two arrows.
@@marcorizo1387 skill in shooting or using projectile to hit targets at a distance and various ranges. Sharp shooters with rifles or archery or knife throwers are all different types of marksmen.
With Jason it wasn’t his aggression, Jason was already aggressive. Bats gave Jason his will to fight and the mentality to stay one step ahead of anyone he does go against
In my opinion the Robins are what keeps Batman clinging to his humanity, as we see time and time again when batman starts to loose his grip on right and wrong his children are what bring him back whether it be by blood or adoption the robins are his kids
This is further supported in the comic where Tim Drake first meets Batman. He seeks him out by finding his secret identity with the quad flip because he thinks that he is getting too dark with Jason dead and Dick moved on. The truth is that Batman will always need a Robin.
Dick is also said to be better at improvising and thinking on his feet. Also Captain ButterBalls69, from what I understand, Dick beat Jason in a fight.
NinjaDMG98 yea but I’m talking just strength. Dick beat Jason because he is the best acrobat and that helps him in fights. If we talking strength wise then Jason would probably win since he has beat people like deathstroke in a fight with trash can lids
Captain ButterBalls69 I understand where you’re coming from. I’m curious though, could you explain to me why Jason and Deathstroke were fighting with trash can lids when they have guns and grenades?
NinjaDMG98 I believe someone sent Jason after deathstroke and they had a fight in a alley way. Deathstroke cornered Jason, and then Jason grab 2 trash can lids. It’s was a good fight if you wanna check the story out go watch comicstorian Jason vs Deathstroke
honestly i wanna see a storyline about all the robins teaming up for a certain mission. idk if they've already made a storyline like that yet but that would still be sick as hell.
@@Dylexis I'm just imagining if it was batman's Deathstroke or teen titan's Slade. Slade trying to make dick reminiscent of how he tried to him his apprentice and the other Robin's confused on what he meant by that.
I don't really like where the plot goes, but Batman and Robin: Eternal features all the Robins and they work together in a case. The first volume is quite good, then, imo, the second volume starts being more and more nuts until it doesn't make sense, but perhaps you'll have a different opinion!
Batman is better than all of them in pretty much everything because 1st..Batman is the one who taught them 2nd..Batman never uses his full potential in skill,intelligence and gadgets(they r not deadly just enough to sustain villains 3rd..HE IS BATMAN
@@oneoverpresence6564 just because someone teaches something doesn’t mean they are better at it. The next generation is always stronger than the last in some way. Batman himself even believes nightwing could be a better Batman than him
Jason is also a much better sword fighter, as he’s beaten Rā’s Al Ghul in a duel. He even owns two magic blades called the All-Blades. The All-Caste stated that Jason was the only human to pass all their trials. And due to his training with first being a street kid, then Batman, then the League of Shadows and finally the All-Caste, Jason might just be a better fighter than Batman, if not an equal. He has also defeated Damian every time they’ve fought.
Dick Grayson has tendencies to keep secrets from his team and refuse outside help that keeps screwing the Titans over. His leadership is hindered by having the trust issues of Bruce, except on Steroids. I give the title of best leader to Jon Jones. Having telepathy just gives you an unfair advantage in dealing with people.
Dick lost his parents at an age where he was old enough to process and cope with their deaths whereas Bruce was at an age where he still relied on his parents for most things. Jason was used to surviving by himself on the streets since his adopted mother had died of a drug overdose, his dad was a henchman of Two Face's who Harvey killed and his biological mother Shiela Haywood betrayed him to Joker who beat the shit out of Jason with a crowbar and blew up a warehouse with Jason and Sheila in it killing them both. So Jason had dying and coming back to deal with as well as his parents deaths. Tim Drake's dad Jack and the first Captain Boomerang Digger Harkness killed each other during Infinite Crisis.
I remember seeing an episode of Justice League where Batman mentions that he made the League to be his kryptonite. I disagree. If he goes rogue, he knows exactly who's going to be stopping him, and it isn't the people with superpowers. It's the people that he was closest with, the people that he trained. The people that know his weaknesses because they know him. The people that won't hold back on him because they know that he wouldn't want them to, and who Batman might hold back against because he can't lose another family.
Right. In Dark Knights Metal when we see the origen of the Batman Who laughs, the first people who he kills are the Robins and Batgirl. This is because they would be the first ones to know if something was wrong and could all beat him.
It's because Batman is always brooding, always has something up his sleeve, always keeping secrets from the rest of the team. Whereas to Nightwing, he is the most reliable member of the batfamily AND Justice League. He knows how to atleast do some peptalk to his team mates which is why Superman and the rest of the JLA respects him so much. He is not afraid to show sincerity and is not just a hero who does the job but does it in a way to also inspire. Leadership is not done through FEAR. You can be the best tactician in the world, but it doesn't make you the best leader.
@Doragon Kaido it's not like a drug dude. it's like batman has the willpower to not kill, but it takes no willpower to stop killing, but batman doesn't kill because if he does indeed kill, he'll be just as bad as the criminals in arkham
I never thought about Jason Todd in that way, thank you for making me think about how he kills but only who he thinks should die, unlike Batman who would probably kill every bad person. So again, thank you
Not really, especially in the case when Batman died. He started a gang war in gotham and though he is 'cleansing' the city, a couple of innocents got involved but his brain was still a bit addled during these times. RHATO made him great!
Give him a bunch of animals. Seriously, he now a guy who has a close bond with animal life. In one possible future he even has a cat he calls Alfred showing that he respected the man.
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Are we not gonna talk about how Jason has had on record better and more training than Batman? He went to be trained by the same people as Batman, plus people like the Al Caste which is an ancient group of assassins that put the league of assassins to shame, plus the LoA themselves. He has beaten or gotten into a stalemate with every member of the batfamily minus Batman himself who he himself has escaped multiple times from. He’s also a better marksman and planner. Overall while he lacks in certain things like acrobatics and his detective abilities, he certainly is far better than the majority of the human race in these things. And even in the acrobatics department he is faster than Batman and was able to keep distance from Dick in the Under the Red Hood comic. You really have Jason an underselling here.
@@shahanahsan05 to my knowledge jason was never trained by mercs in most comics he either gets trained by the league of assassin's or he just trains himself
@@nerdneck999 In quite an amount of comics he was trained my mercenaries, but he always killed them after because they were bad people. His German strategist trainer (Egon) was killed because he sold children, his tech teacher was killed because he was a pedophile, his martial arts instructor was killed because she planned on killing her husband and her child. Jason, pretty much killed/fought anyone who trained him. A big example of why he kills only certain people.
Its why I love 'Under the Red Hood' movie. The comic storyline of Jason's return is a hot mess, No one seemed to completely know what they wanted to do with him. But the Animated movie took everything I love about Jason Todd and makes it make more sense, and I feel overall flows better with the Jason we see nowadays in comics. Jason is a very pragmatic hero, who does what needs to be done. The movie defines his desire to only kill certain people very well. "I'm not talking about killing Two-Face, or Riddler, or any of them just [The Joker]. Becuase he took me away from you. If it had been you, I would have stopped at nothing to make him pay." His belief's. his pain, laid bare right there. I love the Joker, one of my favorite villains... but I absolutely agree that he needs to be killed. He's responsible for countless deaths, direct and indirectly. Batman's other villains are no where near that level when it comes to killing. Like, Joker has literally threatened to kill babies, it how he ends up killing Gordon's second wife in No Man's Land. He is not someone you try and reform. He absolutely needs the death penalty. Others, we see they can be reformed, they can be good people. Riddler, Two-Face, Mr. Freeze, and Bane for example have all had runs where they aren't evil. They always eventually come back to that, becuase this is comics, No one is gonna stay reformed, just as no one will stay dead.
@@shahanahsan05 Personally, some of DC's best movies are Animated. Mask of the Phantasm, Return of the Joker, Under the Red Hood, Superman vs The Elite; off the top of my head all have a lot more going for them then most the Live Action movies.
I love that you acknowledged both Jason's ability to plan but also his emotional tendencies. He is great at playing the long game, but he also feels things SO much. I think those traits complement each other so much. The emotions fuel the drive through the path he's laid out. People like to say that Batman passed on a distinct trait to each Robin, and they always say Jason got the aggression or the rage or whatever, but I'd argue he got the emotion... and the stubbornness. The guy was too stubborn to stay dead. But what I mean is that I think as hard as Jason rages, he loves and feels compassion just as much. I think that's why Batman not avenging his death stung so much. Jason knew how much he loved Bruce, he knew what he would do if someone hurt Bruce, and then as far as he could tell, Bruce didn't love him nearly that much. Even when he died (depending on the version, ofc), he tried to save the mother who betrayed him to Joker. And he wasn't even mad that Batman didn't save him (Arkham Knight not included, I didn't care for that take). To me all of this speaks to a person brimming with love and compassion for others, who doesn't understand letting someone get away with hurting something you love, who doesn't understand putting your own moral code over the safety of others. And I mean, yeah, he's got a temper, but he shows over and over again that he can focus that anger into methodical and effective plans. ugh, if you can't tell, he's my favorite batfam member. I wish DC was a bit more competent at writing any of them. Or at least sticking to a certain characterization and not changing it every five minutes to suit the random plot. they're practically choose your own adventure books at this point. And god help anyone trying to get universes and storylines straight.
Jason actually had the most technical understanding, because he was able to steal the tires from the batmobile without activating the alarmsystem and later when he came back to life, was able to plant a bomb on it with a special wetsuit he build because he knew every countermessure the damn car had.
"If you can make yourself more than just a man, if you can devote yourself to an ideal, then you become something else entirely." Nothing explains Batman's blessing and his curse more eloquently. Batman is revered for being an incorruptible symbol of justice. Yet his motivation for crime fighting, his trauma, his resolve, and his code hampers him to an eternal cycle of crimefighting, with nothing else or anyone else. Whether he is mentally strong or broken, it is daunting to see how one bad day can change everything.
Damian might be too violent and arrogant most of the time but he can also be caring and understanding like for instance you can take his relationship with superboy , Jon kent the two bring out the best in each other and try to do the right thing. Also Damian's love for animals also shows his kindness like he has cats a dog and a cow because of which he even turned into a vegan. He's also scarily smart like he hacked into some new genesis tech I only did this cause not many people seem to appreciate him that much.
Dick Grayson: Broader range of skills, MORE experience than Batman, more leadership, respect... and most importantly, he has a caring heart. As stated by Batman himself, Dick is the better version of him, the one he always wished to become. Jason Todd: Although extremely violent and the clear reflection of what Bruce would've become if he was more immature, Jason is MUCH better at taking bandits off the streets. This guy single handedly did in a week what Batman couldn't in years. Tim Drake: So fucking intelligent that if Batman ever let this boy without supervision, he would be taking the entire Justice League. Damian: Not better than Batman in any way at the moment.
@@amzzyamz3560 Dick has done it for his entire life and trained with a multitude of masters, one of them being the Batman himself. Bruce started being Batman only at 25 years old, and had mostly himself as a master.
@@umcaraqualquer3640 Bruce trained with a ton of people's before going back to Gotham and then learn even more things while also slowly getting better, Also in terms of actual experience,Batman does have more of it
I can’t pick a favorite, I just can’t. I love all of them. They all have so much depth and uniqueness; yet similarities that compliment the hell out of one another as well
I'm surprised that you didn't made a "Honorable Mention" for Terry McGuiness. I know that he is the replacement for Bruce Wayne but in a way, he was a Robin as well.
I want to see a story where Damian is a teenager and he moves out to become his own hero. Sure, he had that Teen Titans run, but he hadn’t become more mature, which, let’s be hones, he should be by this point. I think they could mesh his personality with Terry McGuiness and he moves to a city like Paris or Prague, and while he’s there, he can find his own arch enemy, who can kind of be the Robin to the Joker, and it can be implied that they will be the future legacies. Also, if we ever learn the official origin of the Joker, it would only be fair if Tim Drake helped Batman figure it out, since he is the detective, and at the end of the story, Batman can say to Tim that he officially is the world’s greatest detective
I realize I'm late to the party, but this just showed up in my recommended and I felt the need to chime in and add a few things. All of them I'd say are arguably better leaders and team players than Batman, with possibly the exception of Damian and Jason depending on what versions we're talking about. I'd also say they're all a lot more mentally and emotionally healthy for the most part, though again there are definite exceptions depending on what versions we're talking about. Pre-Robin Damian and and post-Lazarus Jason, again, being prime examples. Dick I'd say is also better at improv and unpredictability. His fighting style is hard to pin down (it was even compared to jazz at one point to emphasize this), and he's not as easy to figure out as Batman when it comes to his habits. You generally know what to expect from Batman (with the exception of some of his more ridiculous plans): paranoia, contingencies, and the same tried-and-true methods. I'd say Dick is definitely less predictable in that front and more willing to try new things. I'd say Jason is just way more practical and able/willing to do what needs to be done.
The robins make up parts of Batman dick is the agility/leader Tim drake is his smarts Damien is his fighting prowess red hood is like a combination of all of them as well
Of all of Batman's proteges, my absolute favorite is Jason Todd. I fully agree with his logic that some criminals like the Joker, who cannot be cured of his insanity and will always strive to murder and create chaos, are fully deserving of the death penalty. And btw, I had no idea that Batman actually had Jason put in Arkham Asylum, only for Jason to be declared legally sane all along.
When Batman says that he wouldn’t be able to stop himself from killing if he kills the joker, doesn’t he mean that killing the joker would set a precedent? If he kills the man he would have to ask himself what crimes justify death for the other rogues
Yeah cause if he killed joker he'd basically be saying that every single person who commits a crime should die, basically every single african kid who robs food from their government should also die.
Such a slippery slope but one that is easily fixable. Know why? Joker killed millions directly/indirectly with no remorse. That is where the line should be drawn but of corse that gets ignored.
Cameo Shadowness why does it takes a million deaths to justify killing the Joker? Why not less? Rás al Ghul as killed a comparable number of people his 400 years of life and he certainly doesn’t feel guilty. If Batman kills the Joker he goes for Rás, Vandal Savage, Black Adam, The Court of Owls,.... Why does 1,000,000 deaths justify killing someone and not 999,999?
Event Laviathan. Bruce and Damian accused Jason of being the new leader of Laviathan. Jason isn't the new leader, and he was so hurt and angered about the fact both Bruce and Damian thought it was him, he proceeded to kick their butts. He also went after the meta humans who were working with Bruce and kicked their butts too. Damian had to admit that Jason was better than him and Bruce.
If we are talking kid Damian yes he surpassed them at fighting but Damian as a adult he dosent stand a chance against old Damian and Bruce beat Jason’s ass so many times
@@ladyoftheabyss13 yeah it's really weird Jason can't beat bruce as at the end of the new 52 bruce and Jason have a final showdown and bruce breaks ason and Jason says "did you ever hit joker that hard"
Damian used his voice imitating skill in Batman Incorporated issue 8, I think it was. Batman didn't allow him going outside, so he wouldn't get killed but he used his skill of imitating Batman's voice to open the door and got out. This was a issue where died and issue where he showed his skill again.
Once, after Ra's stole Batman's contingency plan for the JLA superman asked him if he had a plan for if he went rogue, and Batman said he did it was the Robin's. He said all 4 of them together could take him down.
Best explanation perhaps no single Robin alone could take him down solo but with their combined skills and things they excel at even more than Bruce himself they could take him down.
Out of curiosity, does any one know who the two other people are that can do a quadruple flip? I've looked everywhere, an i can find the information. So please help.
I wouldn't say that Damian is the Better Fighter. He's more Ruthless than Bruce. Tim is smarter than Bruce in certain areas: Detective work and tech, but Bruce is certainly overall leagues more Intelligent. There are few things that Bruce can't do intellectually i.e. Fighting Genius, Criminology, and forensics.
Damian is way better as an adult then Bruce ever was, he doesn’t admit things like that unless it’s true and the fact Damian is like the 3rd or 4th generation of fighters from the al Ghul line with Batman genetics as well
@@UnaLaw04 1. This is child Damian, not Adult Damian. 2. "Way better" is absurd considering that Bruce Wayne is one of the Best Fighters in History. Sure, I understand his pedigree, but let's be reasonable. Genetics ain't everything in terms of Fighting.
@@UnexpectedWonder it not everything but it does help loads especially when you have the best genetics for it, also he was on about Damian grown up mostly as we have seen it a few times and will happen as main continuity, as a kid he isn’t better then Batman but adults could be, Bruce is good but there are quite a few better them him and his son is one of them as an adult
@@UnaLaw04 I respect your Perspective on the matter. The reason I say that Bruce is actually better is that he forces himself to display so much restraint. Imagine if Bruce mainly didn't practice his No Killing Rule.
“You always told me Bruce, focus on what I want to achieve... and it’ll happen. Well you what i want now huh? I want you dead!” -Jason Todd, Arkham Knight.
Another thing about Tim Drake’s intelligence is also the fact that Ra’s Al Ghul as far as I’m aware exclusively Batman “Detective”, however he also called Red Robin the same thing.
Yes. But,only out of knowing the Bat. And,seeing his shortcomings. Damion is still a work in progress. And,has teaching and mentoring of not only his father. But,of Alfred and his Brothers in the Red,Yellow and Green...
I totally agree but I also want to add the point that when it comes to Jason’s will power on who he wants to kill also comes from the fact that he had someone in his life to help him coach him in life like batman and batman didn’t have that so that’s why I think batman can’t fully control himself he did kill one of his villains.
tbh batman couldn't coach jason for shit. he let the kid run wild and before he realized he needed to teach him better jason was already far too gone. that's even why batman calls jason one his greatest failures
I like to think that their frighting styles are also different reflection their past and personalities Dick- Graceful with lots of kicks and likes to outmaneuver his opponents(cant take the circus out of the acrobat) Jason- Tough and direct, hard to put down, packing a punch outlasting opponents (probably got into some streetfights young and he did come back stronger or his sheer willpower would probably be keeping him standing) Tim- Analytical and measured, likes to use tools/weapons and to out-think opponents (he is the smartest but not the best hand to hand fighter) Damian- Instinctual, aiming for weak points and trying to pick apart his opponent (raised to fight and kill since birth )
Bruce has also mentioned that Dick is better at maintaining relationships. Even more than Superman, Dick is the one that can get all the superheroes together. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think originally in Infinite Crisis it was Dick who was supposed to die, not Connor, because his death would have such a huge impact on the superheroes but they changed their mind because Dick is so important, I think they thought it would be a step too far.
All the robins combined would make the perfect batman. They all posses one of his abiluties one way or another. But each, takes one of his weaknesses and improve on it.
I like Tim way more than the others. Unlike other batboys he was just a normal kid and a fan of batman. When batman was broken and more vicious after Jason's death, he became robin cause it was the right thing to do. He's very underrated. I he's written right he can be way more relatable and interesting than the other Batboys.
Facts. He used his intelligence and ambition to earn his way into the family, AND originally he was also a great martial artist who trained under Lady Shiva, one of the best. Bruce also trusts him as rightful heir to his company, and Ra's called him Batman's best successor and the best detective. Though we know he later finds out he's too mentally unstable to become Batman in the future (Dick should be), he can still stay as Red Robin until he retires into science, and uses the Wayne money and that to help people instead.
Jason did nothing wrong. Also that last part about Batman's inability to move on was really sad, it's what really made the Catwoman segment in Arkham Knight shine
If Tim ever got a full eight hours of sleep he'd probably take over the world, that's why Batman keeps him so busy.
That comic needs to exist
I thing no one of the Batfamily gets their full eight hours of sleep
Both of you to assume that any of them have seen their beds in the last week or 70.
@@Sweetumskitty1789 Probably they don't know what a bed is
@@Whatareyoudoinnhere Interesting
One other thing that the Robin's may be better at than Batman: showing emotion and opening up.
Take Dick Grayson, as an example. He's a bit more charismatic than Batman.
He is a lot more charismatic, pahahahaha
I think a worm is more charismatic than batman
@@aliostrowski1935 Incorrect, look at Bruce Wayne, Batman has charisma leagues above the Robins regardless if he has to fake it when playing the billionaire playboy at any kind of event where Bruce Wayne needs to appear.
@@coc8648 bruce Wayne was a different story very charismatic
@@mageside bruce wayne was charismatic but batman wasn't
Jason Todd's ability is to get shit done. Batman spends most his life fighting crime and Jason removes like 30 percent in about three hours. Same as Hawkeye ability to take out the helicarrier and Loki with a total of two arrows.
True. Jason is more pragmatic and straightforward, and he doesn't afraid to do a dirty work.
And yet, the poor, hot-headed devil gets his ass whooped the most, lol. Though I wish that honor would be bestowed to Damian.....little shit.
@@THELarvious ur mom
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@@THELarvious lame .
Dick: Is a better team leader
Jason: is a better Marksman and has Mysticism
Tim: better Detective and inventor
Damian: Better at adapting and learning
Damian: better at being a piece of shit.
@@Riskofrain527 nowadays he is quite likeable
I agree.
They’re all, except damian, better leaders than Batman!
@Insane Makaioshin Dick is the best leader out of them all so
How could you not mention Jason's marksmanship and his skill with weapons and gadgets he's the best in the batfamily in that respect.
What exactly is marksmanship?
@@marcorizo1387 skill in shooting or using projectile to hit targets at a distance and various ranges. Sharp shooters with rifles or archery or knife throwers are all different types of marksmen.
Thanks for answering.
He's actually more brilliant with using gadgets... since most of his are pretty lethal
Man's speaking fax
Jason isn’t bad or good he’s just practical as hell
He's balanced between good and evil.
graklinn_ fox no shut up you ruined the line
William Kraus shut up
Commander Henry say hi to black mask and joker for me *bang*
William Kraus Jason a anti-hero
Batman has passed one of his key traits onto each of his sons
Dick- his idealism
Jason- his aggression
Tim- his intelligence
Damian- his skill
I 100% agree with this
A-Bomb777 U do know that Batman will kick Damian ass
Yes, but as Damian gets older, there's a possibility that he could become a better fighter than him
With Jason it wasn’t his aggression, Jason was already aggressive. Bats gave Jason his will to fight and the mentality to stay one step ahead of anyone he does go against
batman has teacher
In my opinion the Robins are what keeps Batman clinging to his humanity, as we see time and time again when batman starts to loose his grip on right and wrong his children are what bring him back whether it be by blood or adoption the robins are his kids
This is further supported in the comic where Tim Drake first meets Batman. He seeks him out by finding his secret identity with the quad flip because he thinks that he is getting too dark with Jason dead and Dick moved on. The truth is that Batman will always need a Robin.
Dick: Best leader/hero and the most athletic
Jason: "Strongest", best tactician and marksman
Tim: Smartest
Damian: Best fighter
I would love to see an arm wrestle between dick and Jason. I’d put my money on Jason
Dick is also said to be better at improvising and thinking on his feet. Also Captain ButterBalls69, from what I understand, Dick beat Jason in a fight.
NinjaDMG98 yea but I’m talking just strength. Dick beat Jason because he is the best acrobat and that helps him in fights. If we talking strength wise then Jason would probably win since he has beat people like deathstroke in a fight with trash can lids
Captain ButterBalls69 I understand where you’re coming from. I’m curious though, could you explain to me why Jason and Deathstroke were fighting with trash can lids when they have guns and grenades?
NinjaDMG98 I believe someone sent Jason after deathstroke and they had a fight in a alley way. Deathstroke cornered Jason, and then Jason grab 2 trash can lids. It’s was a good fight if you wanna check the story out go watch comicstorian Jason vs Deathstroke
Jason Todd
I'll explain it
i love this guy
What do you mean?
Neddlemouse or red hood?
LoL same
Jayden B Yes
Jason is actually sick
All of the bat family has mental issues,I mean come on their all dress in costumes and fighting crime.
Who else loves Nightwing?
Everyone (including me)
Yh yh
fuck yes
My favorite DC character...
me
honestly i wanna see a storyline about all the robins teaming up for a certain mission. idk if they've already made a storyline like that yet but that would still be sick as hell.
Samir Awan Robin War is something like that. What I wanna see though is them fighting Deathstroke (who is a enemy for them all)
@@Dylexis thanks bro, I'll definitely check that one out
@@Dylexis I'm just imagining if it was batman's Deathstroke or teen titan's Slade. Slade trying to make dick reminiscent of how he tried to him his apprentice and the other Robin's confused on what he meant by that.
Robin's war
I don't really like where the plot goes, but Batman and Robin: Eternal features all the Robins and they work together in a case.
The first volume is quite good, then, imo, the second volume starts being more and more nuts until it doesn't make sense, but perhaps you'll have a different opinion!
Dick: better acrobat and fighter.
Jason: Better strategist, and marksman.
Tim: better detective, tech expert, and scientist.
Damian: better skilled fighter.
Not damian at the moment when he's older probably
Batman is better than all of them in pretty much everything because
1st..Batman is the one who taught them
2nd..Batman never uses his full potential in skill,intelligence and gadgets(they r not deadly just enough to sustain villains
3rd..HE IS BATMAN
@@oneoverpresence6564 just because someone teaches something doesn’t mean they are better at it. The next generation is always stronger than the last in some way. Batman himself even believes nightwing could be a better Batman than him
Dick is also a much better leader than Batman
Your profile pic lol. RED SON FOR THE WIN.
Everyone is forgetting the most important thing about Dick Grayson: He can rock a mullet better than Bruce ever could
The fact that Jason was determined to be sane while Bruce was seeing Jason as maybe not sane speaks volumes about Bruce's state of mind if anything.
Damian being able to imitate Tim’s voice is such a brotherly thing to do
Jason is also a much better sword fighter, as he’s beaten Rā’s Al Ghul in a duel. He even owns two magic blades called the All-Blades. The All-Caste stated that Jason was the only human to pass all their trials.
And due to his training with first being a street kid, then Batman, then the League of Shadows and finally the All-Caste, Jason might just be a better fighter than Batman, if not an equal. He has also defeated Damian every time they’ve fought.
Jason ebat ra.s in deal big deal so did batman jaosn better fighter then batman as if
Thank you for this comment... it’s exactly what I was thinking 🙏🏼 I was looking for this
Damian has won a few times against him
Its Ur Boi Dick has also beaten ras
happy little accident because Jason had no intention of harming Damien or beating him.
Dick also designed and built his own car from scratch, and is the best leader in the DCU.
Dick Grayson has tendencies to keep secrets from his team and refuse outside help that keeps screwing the Titans over. His leadership is hindered by having the trust issues of Bruce, except on Steroids. I give the title of best leader to Jon Jones. Having telepathy just gives you an unfair advantage in dealing with people.
Well they were trained by the best of the best, they moved on from their parents deaths and they aren't brooding all of the time, accept Damian
@Michael Jones I'm not a big fan of him either but I was saying that him and the other Robins are better than batman in a way
Ikr 😂 😂
damain has gottan better and more sympathetic and look at his origin he is messed up
i love his character so much so try and look at him him being stubborn thats how he was raised
Dick lost his parents at an age where he was old enough to process and cope with their deaths whereas Bruce was at an age where he still relied on his parents for most things. Jason was used to surviving by himself on the streets since his adopted mother had died of a drug overdose, his dad was a henchman of Two Face's who Harvey killed and his biological mother Shiela Haywood betrayed him to Joker who beat the shit out of Jason with a crowbar and blew up a warehouse with Jason and Sheila in it killing them both. So Jason had dying and coming back to deal with as well as his parents deaths. Tim Drake's dad Jack and the first Captain Boomerang Digger Harkness killed each other during Infinite Crisis.
Dick Grayson = Acrobatic skills
Jason Todd = Common sense
Tim Drake = Detective skills
Damian Wayne = Fighting skills
Jason = Gadgets and Weapons skills
@@darkneon5637 and vengeance
Common sense wins everytime
Jason is the most realistic robin.
I love that you gave Jason common sense lol
I remember seeing an episode of Justice League where Batman mentions that he made the League to be his kryptonite. I disagree. If he goes rogue, he knows exactly who's going to be stopping him, and it isn't the people with superpowers. It's the people that he was closest with, the people that he trained. The people that know his weaknesses because they know him. The people that won't hold back on him because they know that he wouldn't want them to, and who Batman might hold back against because he can't lose another family.
Right. In Dark Knights Metal when we see the origen of the Batman Who laughs, the first people who he kills are the Robins and Batgirl. This is because they would be the first ones to know if something was wrong and could all beat him.
@@ejam4345 to be fair if superman wasn't such a good person batman could never be a threat
@@anthonydiego1176 I hate arguments like this because it involves stripping a core aspect of a character away
@@yordlejay6820 that is a good point, I'm just pointing out how easy it would be. People love to downplay superman which I find annoying
Nightwing is also a better leader than Batman.
How???
No
@@regbrown2245 Thank-you!
It's because Batman is always brooding, always has something up his sleeve, always keeping secrets from the rest of the team.
Whereas to Nightwing, he is the most reliable member of the batfamily AND Justice League. He knows how to atleast do some peptalk to his team mates which is why Superman and the rest of the JLA respects him so much. He is not afraid to show sincerity and is not just a hero who does the job but does it in a way to also inspire.
Leadership is not done through FEAR.
You can be the best tactician in the world, but it doesn't make you the best leader.
@@caldeandrade69 very true
"Red Hood has more willpower and determination than Batman"
*Jason Todd of Earth, welcome to the Green Lanterns.*
Jason Todd belongs in the red lanterns. Change my mind
I'd say Bats still has more. Batman has the willpower to NOT kill, which is the far more difficult choice
@@auberginemanproductions1608 that and we also have dawnbreaker Bruce Wayne
@Doragon Kaido it's not like a drug dude. it's like batman has the willpower to not kill, but it takes no willpower to stop killing, but batman doesn't kill because if he does indeed kill, he'll be just as bad as the criminals in arkham
@@auberginemanproductions1608 yes, but Jason has the willpower to kill and not let it get control of him.
I never thought about Jason Todd in that way, thank you for making me think about how he kills but only who he thinks should die, unlike Batman who would probably kill every bad person. So again, thank you
Batman don't kills
@@batmantheknight7862 I know, but if he did he would probably kill every villain
Not really, especially in the case when Batman died. He started a gang war in gotham and though he is 'cleansing' the city, a couple of innocents got involved but his brain was still a bit addled during these times. RHATO made him great!
That was Jason is my favorite ... He Rages is under Control and Focus
I think Jason also has the edge over Batman in strength since he was able to break a hold from Supergirl.
He had injected banes venom in himself
Tell that to Red arrow who had to save Jason from Batman after Batman Beat the dogshit outta him
@Pedro Guedes they just be talking and ignoring all the history
I am a major Jason Todd fanboy, but Supergirl wasn't really trying to keep him still. It was a light grip, which is the only reason Jay broke out
Hasnt batman completely done a taijustu overhead throw on a superman that wasnt weakened in any type of way before?
I’ve always wanted to see Jason get his revenge on the Joker
We deserve a comic called "The Robin brothers" where all the Robins work together to beat a villain just a suggestion
I agree with you on Damian really needing anger management
But his still better fighter.
its because he was trained and raised to be nothing more then a killing machine
Give him a bunch of animals. Seriously, he now a guy who has a close bond with animal life.
In one possible future he even has a cat he calls Alfred showing that he respected the man.
@@Xo-3130 I saw his pet collection. Batcow was hilarious tho
They're a little like the Tmnt this way. leader, fighter, intellect, talent.
TEENAGE HUMAN VIGILANTES, TEENAGE HUMAN VIGILANTES, TEENAGE HUMAN VIGILANTES,
GOTHAM'S GREATEST HEROES, ROBIN POWER
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For the fans of the 2012 series
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I can't believe how well that fits.
Mikey’s the talent?
Kevin Bonilla Pretty much. Mikey is said to have the most potential.
They've each inherited certain skills from their father.
“The imprint of a dad will forever remain on his son.
Are we not gonna talk about how Jason has had on record better and more training than Batman? He went to be trained by the same people as Batman, plus people like the Al Caste which is an ancient group of assassins that put the league of assassins to shame, plus the LoA themselves. He has beaten or gotten into a stalemate with every member of the batfamily minus Batman himself who he himself has escaped multiple times from. He’s also a better marksman and planner. Overall while he lacks in certain things like acrobatics and his detective abilities, he certainly is far better than the majority of the human race in these things. And even in the acrobatics department he is faster than Batman and was able to keep distance from Dick in the Under the Red Hood comic. You really have Jason an underselling here.
Bruce trained in other countries for 8 years in fighting skills,same with Jason but he was trained by mercenaries
@@shahanahsan05 to my knowledge jason was never trained by mercs in most comics he either gets trained by the league of assassin's or he just trains himself
@@nerdneck999 In quite an amount of comics he was trained my mercenaries, but he always killed them after because they were bad people. His German strategist trainer (Egon) was killed because he sold children, his tech teacher was killed because he was a pedophile, his martial arts instructor was killed because she planned on killing her husband and her child. Jason, pretty much killed/fought anyone who trained him. A big example of why he kills only certain people.
This is exactly why I love Jason Todd
Its why I love 'Under the Red Hood' movie. The comic storyline of Jason's return is a hot mess, No one seemed to completely know what they wanted to do with him. But the Animated movie took everything I love about Jason Todd and makes it make more sense, and I feel overall flows better with the Jason we see nowadays in comics. Jason is a very pragmatic hero, who does what needs to be done. The movie defines his desire to only kill certain people very well. "I'm not talking about killing Two-Face, or Riddler, or any of them just [The Joker]. Becuase he took me away from you. If it had been you, I would have stopped at nothing to make him pay." His belief's. his pain, laid bare right there.
I love the Joker, one of my favorite villains... but I absolutely agree that he needs to be killed. He's responsible for countless deaths, direct and indirectly. Batman's other villains are no where near that level when it comes to killing. Like, Joker has literally threatened to kill babies, it how he ends up killing Gordon's second wife in No Man's Land. He is not someone you try and reform. He absolutely needs the death penalty. Others, we see they can be reformed, they can be good people. Riddler, Two-Face, Mr. Freeze, and Bane for example have all had runs where they aren't evil. They always eventually come back to that, becuase this is comics, No one is gonna stay reformed, just as no one will stay dead.
TransGamer Girl I absolutely agree
@@CassidyShadewing my uncle called The Dark Knight the greatest dc movie ever and I laughed my ass of,like have u watched Under the Red hood
@@shahanahsan05 Personally, some of DC's best movies are Animated. Mask of the Phantasm, Return of the Joker, Under the Red Hood, Superman vs The Elite; off the top of my head all have a lot more going for them then most the Live Action movies.
Jason is the best Robin
Robins: We are better
Batman: No your not, because I'M BATMAN
Cringe
@@josephwashington3328 why
@@ajax3748 cuz it's cringe bro
Your still doing the meem
@@maxwhite6258 yep
I would say that Jason is also the most tactically smart robin as well as the most versatile one. As in all round skilled
I love that you acknowledged both Jason's ability to plan but also his emotional tendencies. He is great at playing the long game, but he also feels things SO much. I think those traits complement each other so much. The emotions fuel the drive through the path he's laid out. People like to say that Batman passed on a distinct trait to each Robin, and they always say Jason got the aggression or the rage or whatever, but I'd argue he got the emotion... and the stubbornness. The guy was too stubborn to stay dead. But what I mean is that I think as hard as Jason rages, he loves and feels compassion just as much. I think that's why Batman not avenging his death stung so much. Jason knew how much he loved Bruce, he knew what he would do if someone hurt Bruce, and then as far as he could tell, Bruce didn't love him nearly that much. Even when he died (depending on the version, ofc), he tried to save the mother who betrayed him to Joker. And he wasn't even mad that Batman didn't save him (Arkham Knight not included, I didn't care for that take). To me all of this speaks to a person brimming with love and compassion for others, who doesn't understand letting someone get away with hurting something you love, who doesn't understand putting your own moral code over the safety of others. And I mean, yeah, he's got a temper, but he shows over and over again that he can focus that anger into methodical and effective plans.
ugh, if you can't tell, he's my favorite batfam member. I wish DC was a bit more competent at writing any of them. Or at least sticking to a certain characterization and not changing it every five minutes to suit the random plot. they're practically choose your own adventure books at this point. And god help anyone trying to get universes and storylines straight.
I love reading about jason, he is the most complex and interesting robin to me, and this comment was a great read!
Jason actually had the most technical understanding, because he was able to steal the tires from the batmobile without activating the alarmsystem and later when he came back to life, was able to plant a bomb on it with a special wetsuit he build because he knew every countermessure the damn car had.
*sees title*
Me: I already know how and why they are, but I'll hear it a 45th time. As a treat.
These boys need a TMNT animated show or CW. A dysfunctional
family of ninjas.
Nightwing is more Agile
Red Hood is more dedicated to the cause
Red Robin is a better Detective
Robin is a more skilled
Everyone always forgets about Stephanie Brown.
iceman1731 :( I know
Who?
No one cares about steph as robin tbh. She's better as spoiler or batgirl. But didn't she last like 2 weeks as robin😂?
Stephanie Brown as Robin no more exists in canon.
Oh no,wait in Gotham Nights #12 it turns out she was Robin,wth
"If you can make yourself more than just a man, if you can devote yourself to an ideal, then you become something else entirely." Nothing explains Batman's blessing and his curse more eloquently. Batman is revered for being an incorruptible symbol of justice. Yet his motivation for crime fighting, his trauma, his resolve, and his code hampers him to an eternal cycle of crimefighting, with nothing else or anyone else. Whether he is mentally strong or broken, it is daunting to see how one bad day can change everything.
Damian might be too violent and arrogant most of the time but he can also be caring and understanding like for instance you can take his relationship with superboy , Jon kent the two bring out the best in each other and try to do the right thing. Also Damian's love for animals also shows his kindness like he has cats a dog and a cow because of which he even turned into a vegan. He's also scarily smart like he hacked into some new genesis tech
I only did this cause not many people seem to appreciate him that much.
Me: Sees the title
Also Me: HOW
XXAROCKXX !! Lol same
Lololol Nightwolf
Exactly! I was like wait what?!!
Don't blame you
And now you agree with the title
Me: Reads the Title
Also Me: *Impossible*
Needlemouse In a jack sparrow impression: Improbable
YUP BATMAN IS DA BEST
So Thanos watches Needlemouse
@@mayonnaise11 nope. *Jason*
@@pidgeymon2353 hmmm jason can be second 🤪
Dick Grayson: Broader range of skills, MORE experience than Batman, more leadership, respect... and most importantly, he has a caring heart. As stated by Batman himself, Dick is the better version of him, the one he always wished to become.
Jason Todd: Although extremely violent and the clear reflection of what Bruce would've become if he was more immature, Jason is MUCH better at taking bandits off the streets. This guy single handedly did in a week what Batman couldn't in years.
Tim Drake: So fucking intelligent that if Batman ever let this boy without supervision, he would be taking the entire Justice League.
Damian: Not better than Batman in any way at the moment.
How is dick Grayson more experienced then batman none of the robins are more experienced then batman
@@amzzyamz3560 Dick has done it for his entire life and trained with a multitude of masters, one of them being the Batman himself. Bruce started being Batman only at 25 years old, and had mostly himself as a master.
@D1n0k1n9 same with batman
@D1n0k1n9 what a load of plot induced bullshit
@@umcaraqualquer3640 Bruce trained with a ton of people's before going back to Gotham and then learn even more things while also slowly getting better,
Also in terms of actual experience,Batman does have more of it
I can’t pick a favorite, I just can’t. I love all of them. They all have so much depth and uniqueness; yet similarities that compliment the hell out of one another as well
I'm surprised that you didn't made a "Honorable Mention" for Terry McGuiness. I know that he is the replacement for Bruce Wayne but in a way, he was a Robin as well.
Patrick Horton Matt McGinnis was literally Robin
stephanie brown and duke thomas too, tbh. talented in their own ways.
I just don't want to become THE Batman
- Dick Grayson
great quote
Batman is still better than you
Jason's Father has been revealed to be alive and has taken on Jason's Batman Inc identity Wingman. Jason doesn't know any of this though.
I want to see a story where Damian is a teenager and he moves out to become his own hero. Sure, he had that Teen Titans run, but he hadn’t become more mature, which, let’s be hones, he should be by this point. I think they could mesh his personality with Terry McGuiness and he moves to a city like Paris or Prague, and while he’s there, he can find his own arch enemy, who can kind of be the Robin to the Joker, and it can be implied that they will be the future legacies.
Also, if we ever learn the official origin of the Joker, it would only be fair if Tim Drake helped Batman figure it out, since he is the detective, and at the end of the story, Batman can say to Tim that he officially is the world’s greatest detective
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Thanks, that’s pretty cool. He kinda looks like Ray Liotta
If Damian goes out on his own, he needs to work with Johnathan Kent (Super Sons) team up.
I realize I'm late to the party, but this just showed up in my recommended and I felt the need to chime in and add a few things.
All of them I'd say are arguably better leaders and team players than Batman, with possibly the exception of Damian and Jason depending on what versions we're talking about. I'd also say they're all a lot more mentally and emotionally healthy for the most part, though again there are definite exceptions depending on what versions we're talking about. Pre-Robin Damian and and post-Lazarus Jason, again, being prime examples.
Dick I'd say is also better at improv and unpredictability. His fighting style is hard to pin down (it was even compared to jazz at one point to emphasize this), and he's not as easy to figure out as Batman when it comes to his habits. You generally know what to expect from Batman (with the exception of some of his more ridiculous plans): paranoia, contingencies, and the same tried-and-true methods. I'd say Dick is definitely less predictable in that front and more willing to try new things.
I'd say Jason is just way more practical and able/willing to do what needs to be done.
Dick: The honest
Tim: the intellect
Jason: The reflection
Damien: The uncouth
Batman: The best yet imperfect
Stephanie: the forgotten one
Actually damian is the reflection u dumb head
Jason's power is having nothing to lose.
The robins make up parts of Batman dick is the agility/leader Tim drake is his smarts Damien is his fighting prowess red hood is like a combination of all of them as well
Of all of Batman's proteges, my absolute favorite is Jason Todd. I fully agree with his logic that some criminals like the Joker, who cannot be cured of his insanity and will always strive to murder and create chaos, are fully deserving of the death penalty.
And btw, I had no idea that Batman actually had Jason put in Arkham Asylum, only for Jason to be declared legally sane all along.
And that he's ginger
I honestly thought you'd mention that Dick Grayson is more emotional stable as well as his acrobatics.
Who else thinks that the animated characters and then the batman beyond skin are the best in Arkham City.
It looks stupids tho
It looks awesome
When Batman says that he wouldn’t be able to stop himself from killing if he kills the joker, doesn’t he mean that killing the joker would set a precedent? If he kills the man he would have to ask himself what crimes justify death for the other rogues
Pretty much. You understand.
Ever read the injustice comics?
It's basically that with pretty set dressing and an unbearable drawn out story.
Yeah cause if he killed joker he'd basically be saying that every single person who commits a crime should die, basically every single african kid who robs food from their government should also die.
Such a slippery slope but one that is easily fixable. Know why? Joker killed millions directly/indirectly with no remorse. That is where the line should be drawn but of corse that gets ignored.
Cameo Shadowness why does it takes a million deaths to justify killing the Joker? Why not less? Rás al Ghul as killed a comparable number of people his 400 years of life and he certainly doesn’t feel guilty. If Batman kills the Joker he goes for Rás, Vandal Savage, Black Adam, The Court of Owls,.... Why does 1,000,000 deaths justify killing someone and not 999,999?
Recently in the comics, Jason surpassed Bruce and Damian as the best fighter.
what comic? Bruce and damian were never the best fighter with Orphan and lady shiva around
Event Laviathan. Bruce and Damian accused Jason of being the new leader of Laviathan. Jason isn't the new leader, and he was so hurt and angered about the fact both Bruce and Damian thought it was him, he proceeded to kick their butts. He also went after the meta humans who were working with Bruce and kicked their butts too. Damian had to admit that Jason was better than him and Bruce.
@@ladyoftheabyss13 You make me more smart, thanks
If we are talking kid Damian yes he surpassed them at fighting but Damian as a adult he dosent stand a chance against old Damian and Bruce beat Jason’s ass so many times
@@ladyoftheabyss13 yeah it's really weird Jason can't beat bruce as at the end of the new 52 bruce and Jason have a final showdown and bruce breaks ason and Jason says "did you ever hit joker that hard"
The Bat Boys are such great characters. I love them.
If you watch the Arrowverse shows do a top 5 of characters that are likely to die in Crisis on Infinite Earths
Batman fans are so stubborn
The Former Boy Wonder I’m confused on tht storyline
This support the idea that batman trains robins as a contingency plans so that if he dies they replace him
Jason is the middle man. Kills those who need it like the joker so others like batman dont go too far.
Tim: basically his mind is a smartass
Dick: a better fighter
Jason: *complicated*
Damian: anger issues
Damian used his voice imitating skill in Batman Incorporated issue 8, I think it was. Batman didn't allow him going outside, so he wouldn't get killed but he used his skill of imitating Batman's voice to open the door and got out. This was a issue where died and issue where he showed his skill again.
Once, after Ra's stole Batman's contingency plan for the JLA superman asked him if he had a plan for if he went rogue, and Batman said he did it was the Robin's. He said all 4 of them together could take him down.
Best explanation perhaps no single Robin alone could take him down solo but with their combined skills and things they excel at even more than Bruce himself they could take him down.
"Jason Todd just kills who he needs to kill."
**Sweats in Titans**
Love the editing achieve your dreams and never give up
I love that with everyone else, what they’re better at is under their names but with Jason it’s just “I’ll explain it.”
The Dark Knight has one hell of a legacy.
Out of curiosity, does any one know who the two other people are that can do a quadruple flip? I've looked everywhere, an i can find the information. So please help.
Could be wrong but I believe Boston Brand (Deadman) is one of them?
I always thought it was his parents
I wouldn't say that Damian is the Better Fighter. He's more Ruthless than Bruce. Tim is smarter than Bruce in certain areas: Detective work and tech, but Bruce is certainly overall leagues more Intelligent. There are few things that Bruce can't do intellectually i.e. Fighting Genius, Criminology, and forensics.
Damian is way better as an adult then Bruce ever was, he doesn’t admit things like that unless it’s true and the fact Damian is like the 3rd or 4th generation of fighters from the al Ghul line with Batman genetics as well
@@UnaLaw04 1. This is child Damian, not Adult Damian. 2. "Way better" is absurd considering that Bruce Wayne is one of the Best Fighters in History. Sure, I understand his pedigree, but let's be reasonable. Genetics ain't everything in terms of Fighting.
@@UnexpectedWonder it not everything but it does help loads especially when you have the best genetics for it, also he was on about Damian grown up mostly as we have seen it a few times and will happen as main continuity, as a kid he isn’t better then Batman but adults could be, Bruce is good but there are quite a few better them him and his son is one of them as an adult
@@UnaLaw04 I respect your Perspective on the matter. The reason I say that Bruce is actually better is that he forces himself to display so much restraint. Imagine if Bruce mainly didn't practice his No Killing Rule.
I loved (and 100% agree with) your analysis on Jason. Best one I’ve ever seen on that character
Jason isn't good or bad his fully aware of his own shortcomings but follows his intentions.
Greetings from Ireland 🇮🇪
Your accent makes me feel like listening to Alfred's analyzing Robin generation
“You always told me Bruce, focus on what I want to achieve... and it’ll happen. Well you what i want now huh? I want you dead!” -Jason Todd, Arkham Knight.
Another thing about Tim Drake’s intelligence is also the fact that Ra’s Al Ghul as far as I’m aware exclusively Batman “Detective”, however he also called Red Robin the same thing.
I'd also put Nightwing's stable personality down as a strength as well. As that is hard to come by in the bat family.
haha, you're absolutely correct!
They dont let darkness take over them
Now do one with the rest of Batman's family like Batgirl and etc
"Will die lonely in a mansion" *Cough* Batman beyond *cough*
I mean, in my understanding Batman took them in to make them better than him in the first place, and whether or not he succeeded is up to debate..
Truuueee. He always wanted better for them, that's how he shows her cares. I think he'd be proud if anyone considered them better.
Jason Todd has the most interesting story arc out of all robins
Yes. But,only out of knowing the Bat. And,seeing his shortcomings. Damion is still a work in progress. And,has teaching and mentoring of not only his father. But,of Alfred and his Brothers in the Red,Yellow and Green...
Damian used that talent in injustice gods among us
I totally agree but I also want to add the point that when it comes to Jason’s will power on who he wants to kill also comes from the fact that he had someone in his life to help him coach him in life like batman and batman didn’t have that so that’s why I think batman can’t fully control himself he did kill one of his villains.
Batman never kills
tbh batman couldn't coach jason for shit. he let the kid run wild and before he realized he needed to teach him better jason was already far too gone. that's even why batman calls jason one his greatest failures
I like how you explain why each robin is better kudos for you
There has to be a movie where all the robins are together
That would be a god like movie
I like to think that their frighting styles are also different reflection their past and personalities
Dick- Graceful with lots of kicks and likes to outmaneuver his opponents(cant take the circus out of the acrobat)
Jason- Tough and direct, hard to put down, packing a punch outlasting opponents (probably got into some streetfights young and he did come back stronger or his sheer willpower would probably be keeping him standing)
Tim- Analytical and measured, likes to use tools/weapons and to out-think opponents (he is the smartest but not the best hand to hand fighter)
Damian- Instinctual, aiming for weak points and trying to pick apart his opponent (raised to fight and kill since birth )
Bruce has also mentioned that Dick is better at maintaining relationships. Even more than Superman, Dick is the one that can get all the superheroes together. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think originally in Infinite Crisis it was Dick who was supposed to die, not Connor, because his death would have such a huge impact on the superheroes but they changed their mind because Dick is so important, I think they thought it would be a step too far.
Loved your Jason rationale. I'd never even considered those points.
All the robins combined would make the perfect batman. They all posses one of his abiluties one way or another. But each, takes one of his weaknesses and improve on it.
Him: He will then kill the rest of the rogues gallery.
Me: If he has a mental condition that would make him a murdering maniac.
I like Tim way more than the others. Unlike other batboys he was just a normal kid and a fan of batman. When batman was broken and more vicious after Jason's death, he became robin cause it was the right thing to do. He's very underrated. I he's written right he can be way more relatable and interesting than the other Batboys.
Facts. He used his intelligence and ambition to earn his way into the family, AND originally he was also a great martial artist who trained under Lady Shiva, one of the best. Bruce also trusts him as rightful heir to his company, and Ra's called him Batman's best successor and the best detective. Though we know he later finds out he's too mentally unstable to become Batman in the future (Dick should be), he can still stay as Red Robin until he retires into science, and uses the Wayne money and that to help people instead.
With all his sons Batman is proud of every single one of them each one has his own unique skill & style that helps them get the job done.
Boi, every Robin has more of than Insane Batman.
Great video! Have you ever thought about doing one for the Batgirls/women? Including Spoiler and Blackbat/Orphan makes four bat inspired vigilantes.
Jason did nothing wrong.
Also that last part about Batman's inability to move on was really sad, it's what really made the Catwoman segment in Arkham Knight shine
Jason has the ALL BLADES as well to make him more unique than his brothers and father!