Gay & Asian: Panel Discussion (Intersectionality, diversity, and allyship in the gay community)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 พ.ย. 2024
- Join us for a compelling panel discussion as we spotlight the experiences of Asian gay men with our diverse panel of guests. Against the backdrop of intersectionality, our panelists share their personal journeys, confronting stereotypes, and navigating the complexities of race, sexuality, and culture.
◾The sacrifices we make to feel included
◾Discrimination in dating
◾Common stereotypes and microaggressions
◾Fetishization
◾Challenges of visibility
◾Media representation: then and now
◾Code-switching
◾The diversity within the Asian community
◾Having a sense of pride in one’s cultural heritage
◾Hierarchies that exist within minority communities
◾Allyship within the LGBTQ+ community
Through personal anecdotes and thought-provoking dialogue, we are looking at celebrating intersecting identities and the quest for acceptance and belonging.
Join us for this much-needed discussion that advocates for understanding, empathy, and solidarity among all members of the LGBTQ+ community.
The Panelists:
◾JP Fernandes- / smilinbk
◾Aldwin Era- / aldybaldy82
◾Jarrod Bruce Lee- www.thedaringacademy.com
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Such an interesting episode. As a first gen black gay man, it was nice hearing about other poc experiences when moving in majority white spaces.
Thank you for your comment! We're glad you found the episode interesting. It's important to share and hear diverse experiences, especially from POC navigating majority white spaces. Your perspective is valuable, and we're happy to have you in the conversation.❤🙏
Thank you this conversation was so important as a black man. I could totally relate as well to many of the topics. It’s so great to hear the Asian perspective.
We're so much grateful for your feedback! We're glad the conversation resonated with you and highlighted important perspectives. 🤩
As a Gay man, I will always be here to support all Gays 🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈 God bless and protect our Gay community of all what is bad and evil ✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️🧿🧿🧿🧿🧿🧿🧿
Thank you for your unwavering support and positivity! Together, we can create a safer and more inclusive community for everyone. 🌈✨
This was such an important topic! Racial minorities is not a big topic in Mexico, where I’m from, because the population is generally uniform. But for the last years that I’ve been living in London, this has been the complete opposite. I’m not only a racial minority now as well, but I’ve met so many people from all over the world, and I love it. My number of Asian friends has particularly increased significantly, they are god sent! They organise dinner parties and make their delicious traditional food, they take us to the best restaurants in the city, they are generous, smart and so fun, no matter if is a night out or a trip abroad! I keep learning every time I meet them, and my perspective has broadened more in 4 years than in my whole life. Thanks for sharing, good vibes!
Thank you for sharing your wonderful experience! It's inspiring to hear how living in London has broadened your perspective and allowed you to form meaningful connections with people from diverse backgrounds. We're glad you enjoyed the discussion and appreciate your positive vibes. Cheers to continuous learning and cultural exchange! 🥳
London is minority indigenous white English now.
First, thank you Michael for this pertinent panel discussion. While listening to Aldwin, JP and Jarrod, I nodded my head in identifying with each of your unique experiences even though I spent my teen and adult life in California. No matter where we, Asians, live in the western world, we all seem to share a collective experience as an outsider and yearning for belonging. Along the way, we brought on shame for not measuring up to the default western ideal. I appreciate the well put together panel. We all want to be seen.
Thank you for your thoughtful comment. We're glad the panel resonated with you and highlighted the shared experiences of Asians living in the western world. Your insights on belonging and identity are deeply appreciated. We're committed to continuing these important conversations.🙏💖
Such a beautiful conversation. Intersectionality as an intentional practice has been integral in my experience for years now as an African, gay, Black, Muslim, immigrant man, and too many other sections I can’t name for time sake. 🤣🤭 So many insights, moments to ki over and ponder over throughout the episode. Thank y’all! 🫶🏽 I’d love to see more conversations like these in the future in relationship to intersectionality within community. Being a Muslim gay man, I’d be interested in a panel discussion (if y’all ever have one, or wish to) around navigating Islam while also being gay (experiencing the double edged sword of Islammisia in the gay community while navigating homomisia in the larger Muslim community) or generally navigating religion while also being gay (reconciliation of these two parts of one’s infinite identity [that is the two and beyond the two] and finding power in that, and so forth). Just some thoughts. 🧎🏽♂️🤲🏽
Thank you so much for your thoughtful and heartfelt comment. We're thrilled that the conversation resonated with you and appreciate you sharing your experiences. Your suggestion for a panel discussion on navigating Islam and being gay, as well as the intersection of religion and sexuality, is incredibly valuable. We'll definitely consider this for future episodes. Thank you for being part of this community and for your insightful contributions. 🌟🫶
Thank you GMGD for hosting another thought-provoking and meaningful panel for our broader community. As a Black, gay man, I have always practiced inclusive, cross-racial allyship - even before I knew what I was doing. While in central California for nearly a decade, I observed many Asian students - not all - shrank from open allyahip and activism with other communities, espec Black and Queer. Now in Chicago, I see the same pattern. When people of Asian descent were widely reported to be experiencing violent attacks around the U.S., several activist and media contacts noted a similar pattern of active Asian allyship. I have understood this may be partly cultural. I’m wondering if the panel can comment on this and whether changes have occurred in the past few years since the former U.S. president left office. Thank you!
Thank you for sharing your insights and experiences. We'll definitely bring this important topic to our panel and discuss the cultural and situational factors influencing allyship within Asian communities. Stay tuned!🤩
What does "the former US president" have to do with "asian allyship"-whatever that is???
Here's an ugly little secret that doesn't get talked about a lot. POC solidarity doesn't exist. When non-white ethnics immigrate to the USA, they adopt the same anti-black attitudes as the wider society, this includes Asians. (I'm speaking in general about how groups operate. If you as an individual don't move that way what I said doesn't apply to you.)
I am really glad JP pointed out the social hierarchies within specific minority group. This is something that I feel does not serve us well with embracing each others difference as whole in order assimulate within a white adjacent western culture. The whole "You've made it" complex does nothing but hold us down instead of lifting each other up as collective group.
Thank you for your thoughtful comment. We completely agree that addressing social hierarchies within minority groups is crucial for fostering unity and mutual support. Embracing our differences and lifting each other up can help us move forward together. 😍
Pathetic insecurity and resentment
Agree! These were powerful moments in the episode. Made me reflection on a few things.
Discussions like this represent some of the best parts of the internet: promoting an appreciation for diversity. Growing up white, in a small Midwestern town in the U.S., my only exposure to anyone Asian was a Chinese priest and a Filipino doctor. And there certainly were no gays (cough, cough). It wasn't until I went to college and tried to date a Malaysian classmate did I realize how culturally insensitive I was. I hope that's changed in the last 50 years.
Thank you for sharing your journey and reflections. It's wonderful to hear how discussions like these have broadened your perspective and appreciation for diversity. It's through open dialogue and continued learning that we can all grow and become more culturally sensitive.🥰
How were you "culturally insensitive"?
So important to create the space for this important conversation. The topics covered are relatable to all first gen immigrants. I resonate with a lot, especially the discussion around code switching, enoughness and the question about community intersectionality. And of course have a new recent appreciation for the topic of minority stress. Great convo, than you!
Thank you for your thoughtful comment! We're glad the conversation resonated with you and touched on such important topics. Creating space for these discussions is crucial, and it's wonderful to hear that you found them relatable and valuable. We appreciate your engagement and support! 🤗
Thank you for putting Gerald Bruce Lee on. It was interesting to hear his comments. I went to his website. It looks great. You look great as well as a white cis gay man its always interesting to hear other perspectives. And I do try to be more sensitive and actually I’ve always liked Asian guys but I usually like almost all guys as long as they’re nice. I try to be nice too.
Thank you for your kind words and support! We're glad you enjoyed hearing from Jarrod Bruce Lee and exploring different perspectives. Your openness and kindness are truly appreciated. 😍
I am white, but I have lived in Taiwan all my life. I grew up around the Taiwanese gay community, and the biggest problem I found here is the almost pathological refusal of gay people (particularly men) to come out of the closet to their families. It has hampered gay rights for decades, because families that would otherwise be supportive of their sons and daughters, siblings and cousins, remain homophobic as they have no idea that they are persecuting their own family members simply because they cannot imagine that their own family members are LGBTQ. It is so frustrating.
Thank you for sharing your experiences and insights. It's indeed a complex issue when societal and familial pressures prevent individuals from coming out. Your perspective highlights the importance of visibility and open dialogue in fostering understanding and support within families and communities. ❤🌈
Another incredible episode! As a Black gay /queer individual; I my Blackness and Afrocentricity being most salient hope and look forward to your in depth discussion regarding being Black and navigating anti blackness within the gay/queer community
Thank you for your support and kind words! We're glad you enjoyed the episode. Your suggestion for an in-depth discussion on navigating anti-Blackness within the gay/queer community is important, and we look forward to exploring this crucial topic. 🏳🌈💕
I wish more asian queer men would share their stories. I wish I had the chance to befriend more queer, Asian people and queer people as a whole.
Thank you for your comment. We also hope more Asian queer men share their stories, as every voice matters. Keep reaching out and building connections-your openness and desire for friendship are wonderful. 🥰
Good topic. I'm half Korean/Greek and gay. I grew up in Denver where the city is predominantly
white where I first learned discrimination in bath houses and in bars. At 25, I moved to San Francisco where I experienced discrimination bc I don't speak Korean. I believe these men only like Asians.
Thank you for sharing your experience. It sounds like you’ve faced discrimination in multiple ways, which can be really painful. Navigating those layers of identity and rejection is hard, and we're sorry you've had to go through that. Your story is important, and we hope you find spaces where you feel fully accepted and valued for who you are.❤
It was quite interesting and revealing to listen to gay Asian men talk about their experiences in wider western society as well as the "gay community." A term which I really dislike. As a Black gay man I don't think of the "gay community" as a singular community. The only thing we all have in common is we're all men who are attracted to other men. From a U.S. perspective I see being gay in America as being just as divided along racial and class lines as str8 America. When people say the gay community what they really are thinking about is middle-class to affluent gay white men. Racial& Ethnic minorities who are gay are ignored or just expected to assimilate into that space. One thing I'm thankful for being Black & gay is in the US we stick together more so than the other minorities. IMHO I think gay Asian men in North America need to develop a kind of "pan-Asian" identity & gay space separate from white gay guys the way Black and Latino men have in the USA instead trying to chase after white guys.
I've never discriminated against other races. If a guy is good-looking, the fact that he is of another race is neither here nor there for me. I think any discrimination is endemic of a larger society-wide problem of discrimination in general.
Thank you for sharing that. It's great to hear that you value people for who they are. Discrimination is indeed a broader societal issue that we all need to address together. 😍
❤ I would love to date an Asian man I'm part Asian myself the problem is there's such a minority in the gay community you can't find them unless you're in a major city somewhere and I've only lived mid-size to-size to small towns
Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us! It can indeed be challenging to find people who share similar backgrounds, especially in smaller towns. Have you considered online communities or dating apps that might expand your reach? They can sometimes help connect you with people who have similar interests and backgrounds, regardless of location. Wishing you all the best in your search and journey. Stay positive and hopeful! 🤗
Tell JP to ignore the survey. While doing my best to NOT fetishize South Asians, he’s the real deal, the full package (including looks).
Thank you for your comment! We appreciate your support for JP. It's important to value and respect individuals for who they are, beyond any stereotypes.❤
You can't actually contact the panelist if you have questions.
Great discussion.
The problem is, for decades, the European standard of beauty has been imposed upon the entire world (not just the predominantly white countries) as the only standard of beauty, through movies, television, magazines, and the fashion industry. So, we have all be programmed to view attractiveness following a very narrow model. A lot of unlearning of that Eurocentric brainwashing needs to take place, and the increase of representation and diversity in media will help with that process.
Thank you for your insightful comment. We completely agree that dismantling the Eurocentric standard of beauty requires significant unlearning and a conscious effort to embrace diversity. Increasing representation in media is a crucial step towards a more inclusive and expansive understanding of beauty. We're glad you found the discussion valuable and appreciate your engagement!🙏❤
Great vid but what this discussion ignored (or avoided?) is the centrality of pornography in the fantasy lives of all gays. Is there any gay man of whichever race whose sense of the sexual was not colonized by porn? I’m certainly not demonizing porn but if gay porn continues to be produced and dominated by old white men, then their subconscious biases-their gaze, basically- _will_ remain influential, beyond their intentions. Insofar as porn’s ineradicable, maybe having more Asians in the porn industry- as actors, as producers- could make the most healthful impact. (Really if there weren’t porn, then all bodies could be seen properly as desirable.)
Very handsome men! Jarrod is so adorable :)
Thank you so much for the kind words! We'll be sure to pass along your compliment to Jarrod. We're thrilled you enjoy the content and appreciate your support! 😊🌟
@GayMenGoingDeeper I hate to ask this, Is he single? I'm just mesmerized 🥰
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J.P. is gorgeous!
Thank you so much for the compliment! J.P. will be thrilled to hear that. We appreciate your support and are glad you’re enjoying the content. Stay tuned for more! 🌟😊
I wonder how many of them have white partners.
Thank you for your question. Our focus is on sharing diverse experiences and perspectives. It's important to celebrate all types of relationships and the unique stories they bring. 💞
I bet they all do.
Because they also desire white men the most.
I do think there has been some encouraging progress made in recent years in terms of increasing diversity, equity, and inclusion in media, the corporate world, and the larger culture. However, politically, we are seeing some right-wing push-back to undo some of those gains in countries like the U.S.
Thank you for your comment. It's encouraging to hear that you see progress in diversity, equity, and inclusion across various sectors. However, we acknowledge the challenges posed by political pushback. It's crucial to continue advocating for and supporting these important advancements to ensure lasting change.🙂🤩
I literally cringe when I see Oriental and Black phenotypes. Its in-built sexual preference. North Indian, Latino and Middleeastern are my top preference, then Mediterranean, South Indian and Nordic phenotypes. I am not going to hide my sexual preference for anyone if I am specifically looking for those. Not everyone has to be sexually attracted to everyone. I am not racist for saying this am I?
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. It's important to recognize that everyone has personal preferences, but it's also crucial to be mindful of how we express them. Preferences can sometimes be influenced by societal biases, and it's valuable to reflect on where they come from. Respect and understanding for all individuals, regardless of background, are key in fostering a more inclusive society.🙂
❤Jarrod❤
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I feel discrimated against when a man says he is not into men and only into women.
We're sorry you're feeling this way. Everyone deserves respect and understanding, and it's important to remember that your worth isn't defined by someone else's preferences.❤
Asians do discriminate on blacks especially those from chines background, South Korea and Filipinos 😢
Thank you for bringing up this important issue. It's crucial to acknowledge and address discrimination within all communities. By fostering open dialogue and understanding, we can work towards greater inclusivity and respect for everyone.❤
Guy with blue top is so hot
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A billion Asian men have hit their forehead with the palm of their hand upon seeing the thumbnail.
We understand that perspectives can vary. We respect your opinion. Let's spread love and respect!🌈
Huh? Is there any problem with it?