@@MartyN2A Yesterday I had a game where I had 3 characters the enemy had 3 characters (none used after image strike) and the game 3 games we played ended for time out simply because we were all the time in vanish wars and the enemy played changing characters all the time. Too absurd
Yeah, they wont patch because some players keep saying "skill issue" or "adapt", the game offline is bad and limited, the custom mode is trash cuz u take 4h to do a story, the online is dogshite, how u implement a ranked gamemode in a UNBALANCED GAME? This game is doomed, and we are NOT EVEN A MONTH IN BRODDA, people have already dropped online, and if offline is this shit, this game wont last till february, i myself have already dropped online and i AM this close🤏 to dropping offline aswell, but guys THATS A SKILL ISSUE you just need to ADAPT
Developers listen to players to an extent. If you follow other fighting games, devs will buff and nerf things players never ask for all the time. Basically you just have to wait and see.
@@noahknight4039well i mean temari is still busted as support they are not fixing shiy heres the thing they need to fix remove unblockable ultimates on some characters remove unblockables on giant dr whello, add ki sickness after sparking nerf the damm dmg on ultimates nerf dmg on fusions character remove the 4 health bars for certain chars make it so everybody starts at 4 bars so they are not fixing all of it im promise you that
I completely agree with the casual match and how it puts you in a lobby even though you press "quick match". I expected it to be like ranked just unranked. Lobbies are great but if you wanna play different players with no stakes, you have to leave lobbies each time and that's kinda lame.
@@MartyN2A That's the sad thing about this game. It's so close to perfection that it's painful. Just a few tweaks to its central game mechanics like vanish and skill points such as ki/skill sickness and make it so unblockables doesn't travel at the speed of light but something manageable like Satan's gift rush.
I also don't like how some characters have 4 health bars, specially in single battle. That is a clear advantage. Doing more damage and charging the ki faster is ok, but having another health bar is just nuts.
@@TheShankPimp then Raditz should have 1 bar, Freeza 2, cell 3, Buu 4, Broly 5, beerus 6, Whis 7. Do you think this is ok? It's a game, it should be minimally balanced
I’ve been saying exactly this. The gameplay loop for this game is not fun and just gets tedious. And most of the time especially with vanish wars, whoever wins those is at a massive advantage. Also don’t know wtf they were thinking putting instant sparking with no ki sickness or cooldowns and pairing them with characters that have unblockable ultimates in a ranked mode smh. And they wonder why rage quitting is a disease in this game.
Dp battles are full of base gokus for unblockable spirit bombs and after image strike humans, I swear, its ridiculous. EACH vanis should cost 1 bar of ki AT LEAST
Im so jaded i think im putting it down until i see that the devs are actually going to fix the gameplay. The current meta doesnt encourage fun and exciting fights, it encourages the abuse of many of the half baked mechanics in this game. It's a constant and frustrating tug of war that is so unsatisfying. Perception, super counter, vanishes, the way they are now makes the game so unfun, not to mention the cheese.
I want to like this game and sink hours into it so bad. The game just lacks the depth of a true fighting game mechanic wise. Just hold perception, spam block and mash square into a super.
@MartyN2A agreed! Also the great ape transformations ! Where's all the ape forms? The ones we do have don't even use the Night maps to transform like in Tenkaichi 3. Which is fine but I would have loved for kid Goku to go great ape at night time
I think: - unblockable ultimates should be removed - ranked should make every character's stats the same - afterimage strike should be nerfed just like in raging blast 2 whereby ki blasts trigger it It's already lost like 80% of the player base so maybe it's even too late. It's also so janky. BT3 felt tight.
I want afterimage strike to NOT avoid blast attacks. That is insane. Seeing them zip around in one of you super explosive waves a thousand times is just... crazy. They could put a delay on the vanish so it would only happen every 2-3 seconds. Would be a lot more manageable like that.
@MartyN2A It can be funny. I have a couple of replays so I can watch from their perspective and it looks crazy. But when there's no clear indicator of when the afterimage strike is activated besides the sudden stop off 3 skill points which you have to look out for, not to mention you have to keep track of the 15 seconds on your own with no timer. It just becomes too much. Lost a couple of times because I either didn't notice its activation or I miscounted the seconds when I used Kale's Berserk Blaster (her overflowing energy explosion ultimate) when they attacked me or used perception.
I just want them to work on the heavy rage quitting and the weird input lag that happens in a good portion of matches. I'm not super mad at after image strike now since there is a way to counter it. I believe this game will live through the BS that's happening if the key issues are ironed out overtime. It is a shame there are a lot of people who use the dirtiest and lamest tactics to win, but unfortunately that's just how it is if things don't get worked on.
I don’t think you’re going to see this. But to provide a semi-competitive but new to BT player…I want to love this game. I enjoyed the story and episodes, but it was one and done. My friends aren’t as competitive as I am so I have to be careful as to not drive them away. What does that lead to for me? Well if I want to scratch that competitive dragonball itch, I go to ranked. I can’t stand the amount of losses to time outs and turtle beam or other unblockable spam. I have even tried setting up casual DP battle rooms. I beat a guy once with my team of 2 saibamen, raditz, nappa, and Saiyan saga vegeta. In our next fight he brought UI sign Goku,m, Broly Super, and dr. Gero. If casual battles are that sweaty already, something needs to change
I remember a few days before the game was going to be released I made a comment saying without having proper balancing the game would die in 5 weeks Now look where we are 🤦♂
they made there money unfortunately i dont think they care anymore they got what they wanted MONEY Look At How Storm 4 Was Handled Xenoverse 2 Is Pay 2 Win Gaming Is Becoming A Monopoly And It Truly Sucks
If they want ppl to come back and buy the dlc's tho, they need to address some things. The fixes they should make would literally make them more money long-term imo
I love this game and your right. It's way too easy to do any of the four counters. They need to take more notes from Raging Blast 2. What I mean by that is three things they need to change that are already known as moves. -the weave mechanics in raging blast 2 are by input. Not that sonic sway crap from BT3. Thats boring and takes too much time and fun away from the player. - second is cancelling moves and dragon dashes. Not being able to cancel dragon dashes and pro forming fakes from canceling charged attacked or strong attacks really forces the game to move too obvious. We might as well be a side by side fighters game. But this also helps with the counters set up. Unfortunately, the fact that they removed shows they intentionally wanted these counters to be like this. I hope they didn't suspect us to favor these back and forth vanishing. -I don't think they should remove the unlockable finishers online. But I think they should make it more consistent with when the attack comes out. They add too much animation into these finishers and it disrupts the timing of when to vanish. Because like you said, it's a slither of time. I can catch this timing but when they do an extra camera zoom I can't tell when they are throwing it. In raging blast 2 when it left their hand... Get ready. That's it. It's that simple. Also, the camera focus is trash. They are doing way too much with the action camera that I'm in the way of my own opponent. And that searching in the beginning of every match and every character switch is cool. I love it... But not finding someone who's right in front of me is crazy. The z search for characters is nuts. It should not take that long. There can still be some skill in finding people but there is no excuse for this.
super counter is barely an issue but if they do decide to change it the only acceptable one is a limited amount of super counters that rest each time you arent taking damage for 1 second
Super counter is nuts the way it is now. It would be like if in Killer Instinct you were allowed to use Combo Breaker anytime for any reason to get out of combos and damage your opponent while doing it.
@@dangerousdays2052 high level players are making it nuts. if they do nerf super counter in a stronger way than what i suggested then its too much. pretty much all of the strong combos in this game are only countered by super counter and if they gut super counter, that means youll have a few tries to win the game or just lose because combos can go on very long and do amounts comparable to ults
8:21 Tbh bro if Xenoverse 2 servers can stay up for 8 YEARS with DLC&free updates then the passionate sparking zero devs will definitely hear out the communities problems.
I made z rank and quit the game and i chesseed/meta its sad but this game shouldnt be like that but every time i make suggesting i get called get good are skill issues
I would argue that Super Counters are ok. Like you said they help break combos and, if your timing is good enough, you can use them to break away from the vanish wars. My issue with vanishing is that it you have to attack off of it, it'd be nice if they gave the option to ki blast or grab off the vanish which ca hopefully help break the vanish wars a bit. For the after-image/ after-image strike, I think that it should last 10 seconds or 2-3 attacks, which ever is shorter. There should also be an icon to show that it is being used and I think it's the only powerup that doesn't have an icon. Lastly, as a Buu main, why doesn't he have any transformations. It kind of feels like he was forgotten about.
@@MartyN2A Oh, I didn't know that. Sparking Zero is the first Budokai Tenkaichi game I've played. But still, after so many entries, you would think that they would make the change to make it more lore accurate.
I mean yes majin buu goes through those phases but he doesn't go from fat buu to super buu voluntarily nor from super buu to kid buu voluntarily so I don't think it would make sense in the game
There’s nothing wrong with super counters or vanishes… what’s wrong is the amount of people who are using the EXACT same characters, it makes it so boring to play them online. People specifically using Z Broly or master Roshi for afterimage strike, gogeta or vegito. People using characters that can do instant sparking and spamming unblockable ultimates they are all pathetic clowns.
I disagree that there's nothing wrong with super counters or vanishes. People can play who they want, it's up to the developers to make it so certain things aren't literally broken or completely unfair
My biggest issue is Steam Deck players can only play with other Steam Deck users right now. Wish i could just jump into a quick match instead of having to set one up. I also saw people advocating for Ki sickness as a nerf to instant sparking spam which i think is a good idea. Overall though i feel like this game was made with love and it does a lot to honor the legacy of BT3. I have faith it will only get better
Honestly, afterimage strike should also dodge ki blasts AND COST KI for every dodge, that way you can force your opponent to run out of KI and therefore, run out of dodges, making the skill not so OP. That's how it worked in raging blast 2 and i dont know why they simply neglected that game that fixed a lot of issues that BT3 had.
broly full power jiren Beerus SSJ2 teen gohan as soon as you see these characters you're like sighhhh i know where this is going.. I've got so much footage of these people that just go into instant sparking and try land the ult instead of chaining it into a combo... That shit needs to go its lame... I wish i could speak to the person that decided who gets unblockables and who doesn't and why? you know? Like for example. Why can i block Blue Gogeta's ultimate but not gohans??? who thought this was a good idea lol All its done is promote bad gameplay from people.
Amazing game ruined by ppl with absolutely no honor. Some nerfs definitely need to happen. But all in all I really think it’s the player base that ruined this game. But what can you expect from a game so unbalanced people are going to take advantage of it. And I feel like it spreads like a virus cuz eventually you get fed up or realize the only way you’re ever gonna make it to A rank is by joining the dark side. I wish people could just put together fun teams or themed teams and just have fun instead of clearly picking the most meta characters and going for the win. I’m now in A rank and I have no choice but to either craft a meta cracked team or just accept the fact im about to lose most of my matches tryna play characters I haven’t gotten to try yet n shit.
Agreed Bro, Vanish Wars and Super Counters are Making the game hella boring to Watch. This game could benefit a lot from Using Some Raging Blast 2 stuff
the worst part about it, it's sweaty but not competitive, as in you get all the bad part about competitive play without the good part since it's not build with balanced play and mechanics in mind. in this day and age, if you want to release any online play, the game has to be balanced, because if not, there will always be players who only care about winning and unfortunately you are not the president of the world with your burger king crown and demand they "play fair" according to your definition. If you want people to play fair and not cheese or dirty, I'm sorry to tell people: the game needs to be balanced. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Ginyus my favourite but not cause he can cheese, i like to ult as soon as i can, then were locked in with no blast attacks or skills, I wish the game restricted how spammable shit is by just making everything blockable OR make it so ults dont shoot out the same frame the animations done, it makes it impossible to dodge (brolys ult)
Do you guys know why I can't switch or tansform, im on the pc version, so this shouldn't have been a problem in the first place, especially after the patch.
If you are online it can be due to lag and there is a glitch that prevents switching and transforming. Those are the two known reasons. If you are offline I have had that happen there but it's rare. Pretty much it's a glitch that has not been fixed yet for some reason.
@SomeNamelessNobody the problem is that it's happened for me every single match, and I fixed my internet issues with this glitch still happening to me. I found a faulty solution of plugging in a controller just so I could switch and transform. It's cursed af.
I think they should leave it in the game, they have basically no choice now it's part of so many characters skills. But just bring back ki sickness from bt3
What it sound like to me is that youre just not having a good time or learning the mechanics better so that you can play the game. After " so called " putting in thousands of hours back in your childhood you would remember this game series was never easy heck first game of budokai tenkaichi series is one of the hardest games i played in my childhood, but even when it got tough i went to training and learned the mechanics and got better at the defense and counters. Its not the stake of online is bad per say, but you just ranting about not having a good time nor providing the right counters to stop "said" players from spamming or if they actually got skill. I promise if you stop a spamming player they will give up or rage quit the game ive seen it happen. Im A5 in single matches on pc with a 56.56% win rate over 200 matches and use broly. Idk how you play sparking zero and if you thought it be a balance character roster you're sadly mistaken. Anyone can beat a
I've played over 100 matches and have a 65% win rate. Trust me it has nothing to do with "not knowing how to play." It's that the way TO play is so boring and repetitive that it makes it not fun
I dont even know why people moan about online in games like this any more. Every time an online competitive game comes along, People quickly figure out the dirtiest and sweatiest ways to play and win, and that becomes the bread and butter of the game. This game is no different. Just accept it and move onto a different game.
Not a fan of the defeatist attitude. A 30 second vanish war is not "dirty or sweaty" it's just boring and poorly implemented. And I gave them over $100 damn right I'm gonna let em know my opinions
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The players base drop off? nah they're just spamming vanish.
Nobody can tell me to "just get over it" when you can have a 30 second vanish war
@@MartyN2A Yesterday I had a game where I had 3 characters the enemy had 3 characters (none used after image strike) and the game 3 games we played ended for time out simply because we were all the time in vanish wars and the enemy played changing characters all the time. Too absurd
Yeah, they wont patch because some players keep saying "skill issue" or "adapt", the game offline is bad and limited, the custom mode is trash cuz u take 4h to do a story, the online is dogshite, how u implement a ranked gamemode in a UNBALANCED GAME? This game is doomed, and we are NOT EVEN A MONTH IN BRODDA, people have already dropped online, and if offline is this shit, this game wont last till february, i myself have already dropped online and i AM this close🤏 to dropping offline aswell, but guys THATS A SKILL ISSUE you just need to ADAPT
Sad to hear you're already dropping the game. There's an absolute gem in here just needs some basic fixes that don't even seem unreasonable to ask for
Developers listen to players to an extent. If you follow other fighting games, devs will buff and nerf things players never ask for all the time.
Basically you just have to wait and see.
@@noahknight4039well i mean temari is still busted as support they are not fixing shiy heres the thing they need to fix remove unblockable ultimates on some characters remove unblockables on giant dr whello, add ki sickness after sparking nerf the damm dmg on ultimates nerf dmg on fusions character remove the 4 health bars for certain chars make it so everybody starts at 4 bars so they are not fixing all of it im promise you that
I like the optimism
I adapt by not playing :D when the game is dead these people will only have themselves to blame as far as i see it
I feel like alot of this could be solved by having a realism ranked and balanced ranked
Maybe. Or they could just tweak the mechanics
I completely agree with the casual match and how it puts you in a lobby even though you press "quick match". I expected it to be like ranked just unranked. Lobbies are great but if you wanna play different players with no stakes, you have to leave lobbies each time and that's kinda lame.
Ya certain parts of the game like the casual lobby feel unfinished or poorly thought out
@@MartyN2A That's the sad thing about this game. It's so close to perfection that it's painful. Just a few tweaks to its central game mechanics like vanish and skill points such as ki/skill sickness and make it so unblockables doesn't travel at the speed of light but something manageable like Satan's gift rush.
I also don't like how some characters have 4 health bars, specially in single battle. That is a clear advantage. Doing more damage and charging the ki faster is ok, but having another health bar is just nuts.
u dont think characters like Beerus, Broly, Gogeta, etc. should have more health bars than characters like Krillin and Chiaotzu?
They probably should have more health bars. That's kind of a non-issue for me
@@TheShankPimp No.
@@MartyN2A dealing more damage is ok, having more health bars is not. My opinion.
@@TheShankPimp then Raditz should have 1 bar, Freeza 2, cell 3, Buu 4, Broly 5, beerus 6, Whis 7. Do you think this is ok? It's a game, it should be minimally balanced
The amount of times I see people running afterimage strike characters so they can just turn their brains off is such bullshit
For real, 15 seconds is FAR too long for that move imo
@@MartyN2A15 seconds isn’t the problem. It’s the mechanics of the game. Skill points are gained way faster, and ki sickness isn’t in the game.
@forsaken7752 I agree the absence of ki sickness is baffling
What I need the most is for controls to be more responsive like Tenkaichi 3 is.
That too. Stuff like getting my attacks off or transforming/switching sometimes feels delayed
I’ve been saying exactly this. The gameplay loop for this game is not fun and just gets tedious. And most of the time especially with vanish wars, whoever wins those is at a massive advantage. Also don’t know wtf they were thinking putting instant sparking with no ki sickness or cooldowns and pairing them with characters that have unblockable ultimates in a ranked mode smh. And they wonder why rage quitting is a disease in this game.
Ya idk why they changed so many good mechanics from bt3
Dp battles are full of base gokus for unblockable spirit bombs and after image strike humans, I swear, its ridiculous. EACH vanis should cost 1 bar of ki AT LEAST
Agreed
Im so jaded i think im putting it down until i see that the devs are actually going to fix the gameplay.
The current meta doesnt encourage fun and exciting fights, it encourages the abuse of many of the half baked mechanics in this game. It's a constant and frustrating tug of war that is so unsatisfying. Perception, super counter, vanishes, the way they are now makes the game so unfun, not to mention the cheese.
I'm just hoping we see them acknowledge the issues at least and tell us they're working on it. Not just stubbornly refuse to do anything
I want to like this game and sink hours into it so bad. The game just lacks the depth of a true fighting game mechanic wise. Just hold perception, spam block and mash square into a super.
Thinks that could be easily fixed 😭 such a shame
The offline modes in sparking are average at best. I would really love dragon Sim, or two player tournaments. Or even more maps for split screen.
More maps are huge. Some key maps missing from the game
@MartyN2A agreed! Also the great ape transformations ! Where's all the ape forms? The ones we do have don't even use the Night maps to transform like in Tenkaichi 3. Which is fine but I would have loved for kid Goku to go great ape at night time
I think:
- unblockable ultimates should be removed
- ranked should make every character's stats the same
- afterimage strike should be nerfed just like in raging blast 2 whereby ki blasts trigger it
It's already lost like 80% of the player base so maybe it's even too late. It's also so janky. BT3 felt tight.
I think most players have dropped off too. But we're at a key point where if they make some changes soon, a lot of players may come back
I want afterimage strike to NOT avoid blast attacks. That is insane. Seeing them zip around in one of you super explosive waves a thousand times is just... crazy. They could put a delay on the vanish so it would only happen every 2-3 seconds. Would be a lot more manageable like that.
The explosive wave thing is kinda funny sometimes I'll be honest 😂
@MartyN2A It can be funny. I have a couple of replays so I can watch from their perspective and it looks crazy. But when there's no clear indicator of when the afterimage strike is activated besides the sudden stop off 3 skill points which you have to look out for, not to mention you have to keep track of the 15 seconds on your own with no timer. It just becomes too much. Lost a couple of times because I either didn't notice its activation or I miscounted the seconds when I used Kale's Berserk Blaster (her overflowing energy explosion ultimate) when they attacked me or used perception.
I just want them to work on the heavy rage quitting and the weird input lag that happens in a good portion of matches. I'm not super mad at after image strike now since there is a way to counter it. I believe this game will live through the BS that's happening if the key issues are ironed out overtime. It is a shame there are a lot of people who use the dirtiest and lamest tactics to win, but unfortunately that's just how it is if things don't get worked on.
Agreed
What's the counter ? Ki spam ?
I wanted too like this game so bad man I just can’t it suck’s so much all it made me wanna do is play fighter z
When a game makes you wanna play another game that's never great lol
I don’t think you’re going to see this. But to provide a semi-competitive but new to BT player…I want to love this game. I enjoyed the story and episodes, but it was one and done. My friends aren’t as competitive as I am so I have to be careful as to not drive them away. What does that lead to for me? Well if I want to scratch that competitive dragonball itch, I go to ranked. I can’t stand the amount of losses to time outs and turtle beam or other unblockable spam. I have even tried setting up casual DP battle rooms. I beat a guy once with my team of 2 saibamen, raditz, nappa, and Saiyan saga vegeta. In our next fight he brought UI sign Goku,m, Broly Super, and dr. Gero. If casual battles are that sweaty already, something needs to change
For sure
I remember a few days before the game was going to be released I made a comment saying without having proper balancing the game would die in 5 weeks Now look where we are 🤦♂
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Party game.
Ranked mode.
CHOOSE ONE!
Agreed. Tho even if there was no ranked I'd like to see some things tweaked haha
Party game. Now I want my party game to not feel like trash, to not have broken mechanics, and to be extremely easily abusable
This is exactly it
they made there money unfortunately i dont think they care anymore they got what they wanted MONEY Look At How Storm 4 Was Handled Xenoverse 2 Is Pay 2 Win Gaming Is Becoming A Monopoly And It Truly Sucks
If they want ppl to come back and buy the dlc's tho, they need to address some things. The fixes they should make would literally make them more money long-term imo
Berus and broly?? LMFAOO my brother you forgot the worst of all…Majin vegeta
I just named a couple off the top of my head lol
Feels like online is dying already. Take a while to get matches, the first week they were instant
Doesn't take too long for me on ps5 still but ya it's slowly getting there
I love this game and your right. It's way too easy to do any of the four counters.
They need to take more notes from Raging Blast 2.
What I mean by that is three things they need to change that are already known as moves.
-the weave mechanics in raging blast 2 are by input. Not that sonic sway crap from BT3. Thats boring and takes too much time and fun away from the player.
- second is cancelling moves and dragon dashes. Not being able to cancel dragon dashes and pro forming fakes from canceling charged attacked or strong attacks really forces the game to move too obvious. We might as well be a side by side fighters game. But this also helps with the counters set up. Unfortunately, the fact that they removed shows they intentionally wanted these counters to be like this. I hope they didn't suspect us to favor these back and forth vanishing.
-I don't think they should remove the unlockable finishers online. But I think they should make it more consistent with when the attack comes out. They add too much animation into these finishers and it disrupts the timing of when to vanish. Because like you said, it's a slither of time. I can catch this timing but when they do an extra camera zoom I can't tell when they are throwing it. In raging blast 2 when it left their hand... Get ready. That's it. It's that simple.
Also, the camera focus is trash. They are doing way too much with the action camera that I'm in the way of my own opponent. And that searching in the beginning of every match and every character switch is cool. I love it... But not finding someone who's right in front of me is crazy. The z search for characters is nuts. It should not take that long. There can still be some skill in finding people but there is no excuse for this.
Ya like 90% of these mfkers can detect ppl's ki from across the planet but not their opponent right up their ass
super counter is barely an issue but if they do decide to change it the only acceptable one is a limited amount of super counters that rest each time you arent taking damage for 1 second
Super counter is nuts the way it is now. It would be like if in Killer Instinct you were allowed to use Combo Breaker anytime for any reason to get out of combos and damage your opponent while doing it.
@@dangerousdays2052 high level players are making it nuts. if they do nerf super counter in a stronger way than what i suggested then its too much. pretty much all of the strong combos in this game are only countered by super counter and if they gut super counter, that means youll have a few tries to win the game or just lose because combos can go on very long and do amounts comparable to ults
I think we should all agree to play with ability items on in online so we can have higher health bars 😂
It's a good mechanic, but compared to T3 this move is invincible. You could break it
@@sweetbabyrayso5262 It needs to be limited somehow and do no damage. Killer Instinct literally already figured this out 30 years ago.
8:21 Tbh bro if Xenoverse 2 servers can stay up for 8 YEARS with DLC&free updates then the passionate sparking zero devs will definitely hear out the communities problems.
I don't know about console, but XV2 has thrived on PC because of the modding community and Sparking just banned mods. 😕😕
Ya they banned it cuz of custom battles mainly and idk what they're thinking, mods are what kept bt3 alive for 17 years
@@dangerousdays2052 they havent banned mods altogether they banned them for the screenshots for custom battles
I made z rank and quit the game and i chesseed/meta its sad but this game shouldnt be like that but every time i make suggesting i get called get good are skill issues
It's not a skill issue majority of the time. The only way to beat cheese is to be cheese yourself
I have one suggestion sounds dumb but what if theres a limit to how many times you can play a character based on the power level for ranked matches
I think they should just fix the mechanics haha
I would argue that Super Counters are ok. Like you said they help break combos and, if your timing is good enough, you can use them to break away from the vanish wars.
My issue with vanishing is that it you have to attack off of it, it'd be nice if they gave the option to ki blast or grab off the vanish which ca hopefully help break the vanish wars a bit.
For the after-image/ after-image strike, I think that it should last 10 seconds or 2-3 attacks, which ever is shorter. There should also be an icon to show that it is being used and I think it's the only powerup that doesn't have an icon.
Lastly, as a Buu main, why doesn't he have any transformations. It kind of feels like he was forgotten about.
Wdym, Buu has transformations... buuhan and buutenks
@@MartyN2A That's restricted to the Super Buu form. You can't go from Majin Buu -> Evil Buu -> Super Buu -> Kid Buu like happens in the anime/manga.
Ya but that's never been a thing done in the games
@@MartyN2A Oh, I didn't know that. Sparking Zero is the first Budokai Tenkaichi game I've played. But still, after so many entries, you would think that they would make the change to make it more lore accurate.
I mean yes majin buu goes through those phases but he doesn't go from fat buu to super buu voluntarily nor from super buu to kid buu voluntarily so I don't think it would make sense in the game
There’s nothing wrong with super counters or vanishes… what’s wrong is the amount of people who are using the EXACT same characters, it makes it so boring to play them online. People specifically using Z Broly or master Roshi for afterimage strike, gogeta or vegito. People using characters that can do instant sparking and spamming unblockable ultimates they are all pathetic clowns.
I disagree that there's nothing wrong with super counters or vanishes. People can play who they want, it's up to the developers to make it so certain things aren't literally broken or completely unfair
My biggest issue is Steam Deck players can only play with other Steam Deck users right now. Wish i could just jump into a quick match instead of having to set one up. I also saw people advocating for Ki sickness as a nerf to instant sparking spam which i think is a good idea. Overall though i feel like this game was made with love and it does a lot to honor the legacy of BT3. I have faith it will only get better
Ki sickness was literally in BT3. As were so many other changes we're asking for gameplay wise. Idk why they changed so much 😭
Honestly, afterimage strike should also dodge ki blasts AND COST KI for every dodge, that way you can force your opponent to run out of KI and therefore, run out of dodges, making the skill not so OP. That's how it worked in raging blast 2 and i dont know why they simply neglected that game that fixed a lot of issues that BT3 had.
But then nobody would ever use afterimage strike because it's obvious how to easily exploit it. I just think limiting the time or dodges would be best
@@MartyN2A they still ise it a lot xD it's still OP
broly full power jiren Beerus SSJ2 teen gohan as soon as you see these characters you're like sighhhh i know where this is going.. I've got so much footage of these people that just go into instant sparking and try land the ult instead of chaining it into a combo... That shit needs to go its lame... I wish i could speak to the person that decided who gets unblockables and who doesn't and why? you know? Like for example. Why can i block Blue Gogeta's ultimate but not gohans??? who thought this was a good idea lol All its done is promote bad gameplay from people.
I agree. Fill out the sparking survey and let em know 👍
Amazing game ruined by ppl with absolutely no honor. Some nerfs definitely need to happen. But all in all I really think it’s the player base that ruined this game. But what can you expect from a game so unbalanced people are going to take advantage of it. And I feel like it spreads like a virus cuz eventually you get fed up or realize the only way you’re ever gonna make it to A rank is by joining the dark side. I wish people could just put together fun teams or themed teams and just have fun instead of clearly picking the most meta characters and going for the win. I’m now in A rank and I have no choice but to either craft a meta cracked team or just accept the fact im about to lose most of my matches tryna play characters I haven’t gotten to try yet n shit.
It's the ppl sure but the ppl who made it are also at fault. If things are changed not as many ppl could spam some of these bs things
Agreed Bro, Vanish Wars and Super Counters are Making the game hella boring to Watch. This game could benefit a lot from Using Some Raging Blast 2 stuff
That's why 90% of players have dropped off already 😢
the worst part about it, it's sweaty but not competitive, as in you get all the bad part about competitive play without the good part since it's not build with balanced play and mechanics in mind.
in this day and age, if you want to release any online play, the game has to be balanced, because if not, there will always be players who only care about winning and unfortunately you are not the president of the world with your burger king crown and demand they "play fair" according to your definition. If you want people to play fair and not cheese or dirty, I'm sorry to tell people: the game needs to be balanced. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
I disagree that it should be FULLY balanced. But there are certain things that should be tweaked to make it more "fair"
Ginyus my favourite but not cause he can cheese, i like to ult as soon as i can, then were locked in with no blast attacks or skills, I wish the game restricted how spammable shit is by just making everything blockable OR make it so ults dont shoot out the same frame the animations done, it makes it impossible to dodge (brolys ult)
Ya the same frame is crazy
Do you guys know why I can't switch or tansform, im on the pc version, so this shouldn't have been a problem in the first place, especially after the patch.
Anybody?
If you are online it can be due to lag and there is a glitch that prevents switching and transforming. Those are the two known reasons. If you are offline I have had that happen there but it's rare.
Pretty much it's a glitch that has not been fixed yet for some reason.
@SomeNamelessNobody the problem is that it's happened for me every single match, and I fixed my internet issues with this glitch still happening to me. I found a faulty solution of plugging in a controller just so I could switch and transform. It's cursed af.
there should be no instant surge and no unblockable ult
Wdym by surge?
@@MartyN2A instant spark
I think they should leave it in the game, they have basically no choice now it's part of so many characters skills. But just bring back ki sickness from bt3
@@MartyN2A well its too late now but im saying before it came out
They can still make it better with ki sickness tho. That's an easy fix
What it sound like to me is that youre just not having a good time or learning the mechanics better so that you can play the game. After " so called " putting in thousands of hours back in your childhood you would remember this game series was never easy heck first game of budokai tenkaichi series is one of the hardest games i played in my childhood, but even when it got tough i went to training and learned the mechanics and got better at the defense and counters. Its not the stake of online is bad per say, but you just ranting about not having a good time nor providing the right counters to stop "said" players from spamming or if they actually got skill. I promise if you stop a spamming player they will give up or rage quit the game ive seen it happen. Im A5 in single matches on pc with a 56.56% win rate over 200 matches and use broly. Idk how you play sparking zero and if you thought it be a balance character roster you're sadly mistaken. Anyone can beat a
I've played over 100 matches and have a 65% win rate. Trust me it has nothing to do with "not knowing how to play." It's that the way TO play is so boring and repetitive that it makes it not fun
I dont even know why people moan about online in games like this any more. Every time an online competitive game comes along, People quickly figure out the dirtiest and sweatiest ways to play and win, and that becomes the bread and butter of the game. This game is no different. Just accept it and move onto a different game.
Not a fan of the defeatist attitude. A 30 second vanish war is not "dirty or sweaty" it's just boring and poorly implemented. And I gave them over $100 damn right I'm gonna let em know my opinions
Every dbz game online dies after the first couple months because the games are not and have not ever been designed for competitive play.
Xenoverse,fighterz, and kakarot have been out for years you’re just chatting
Ya fighterz and xenoverse have lasted years. Nobody says they have to be EVO level competitive. Just small things that can make the game way more fun
skill issue
Oof