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They kinda did that in ninth, they bundled a 40k starter set with a redemptor, and three model storm cast painting bundle. But hard agree, a kid goes into the store and he sees a bunch of cool models together
Or maybe an advent calendar for different factions, like a single mini everyday, and at the end you’ll have a nice collection. Maybe on the 25th you could get a vehicle
11:13 Fitting the sprues is not an issue here, two years ago they had the exact same knight box, but it also came with the newer sprues! So they 100% can fit them in the box!
they changed them out for the full armiger sprues. the 2022 knight box stuck you with 2 of each, while in the new one, you can have any combination. Which isn't to say the new one is better; it's not.
If you ignore the fact that every single Armiger got an extra sprue in this new box to be buildable as every version, then sure. Maybe learn to read before writing.
Man, I really appreciate your videos. You come across as authentically happy and enjoying the hobby and what you're doing. It's rare these days and I'm a fan. ❤
Regarding the T'au Box: It's barely 600 points, depending on what kind of Commander you build it might be 10 points more or less. Other than that, it's probably one of the better deals if you get it at steep a discount from your friendly game store, since the Broadsides especially are stupidly expensive on their own. And depending on what kind of army you are building, especially if it's Retaliation Cadre, you might want 2-3 of all of those models in the box, because they're all just pretty good for their points cost.
By my math it's 535 points (90 + 95 + 160 + 190). It's about the best deal you're going to get for Tau at a little over 2 points per dollar but it's still not great and you're probably going to end up with an extra crisis commander down the line.
@@ElGrompho666 Yeah I know my perspective is really warped on this because I got both my Ghostkeel and my Riptide as gifts, and I got two old Broadsides for $10 each secondhand. It's likely the last time you'll get a deal this good for Tau, especially if you live in the US and they start rolling out tariffs next year
@@daaaah_whoosh Luckily, I don't. For me it would just be the question of making the "3 of everything" full, as I already have 2 of each in the box. The general price increase of the boxes bums me out though. Last year, I paid 144€ for the Votann box which had A LOT more points and models in it, now I'm supposed to pay 190 (maybe 170 with game store disctount) for less points and less models.
Regarding the Tau box: The current combat patrol already has a commander with no unit to lead, and now you get a second one in the christmas box. Crisis suits are a pretty important part of every tau army, they are expensive and there has been no way to get them discounted in quite a while (at least if you don't count the 80 second window you had to buy the bearding patrol). I just don't feel like I should double up on all the models in the Christmas box for a mediocre discount, just in case they may show up again, bundled with any of the models I actually still need.
I bought the original CP at the launch of 10th when I was contemplating crossing the Rubicon from KillTeam to big 40k... But it has sat unbuilt and unpainted because the cost of building an army of sweet sweet Mecha just has me not wanting to bother.
yeah its pretty annoying they didnt throw crisis suits in the battleforce or even some stealth suits as the 5th unit. luckily i started back when they had the good start collecting so i need me some commanders haha
@@Cowgirlsteve26 yeah tau got shafted in 10th army wide they went down by like 30-40% or so in points (if not a more for some models) they are EXPENSIVE now
@@Kernash666 current one is 1 crisis commander, fire warrior squad, 1 pathfinder squad + a devilfish old one was an ethereal, 1 fire warrior squad, a stealth suit squad, and a ghostkeel in terms of raw quantity of plastic the new one probably is slightly better BUT the old one had slightly more variety, and actually had a battlesuit (the reason you play tau) in it while the new one is infantry spam, and a leader that cant lead them
Technically you could use as salamanders Inner circle become blade guard Knights become assault termies. Chaplain is chaplain. And then you can just say your dark angels if you want to play lion and salamanders if your not. Both armies are green so most won't notice a difference.
@@lizadon0740 not goning to lie that is exactly my plan, paint models that can cross over a 'middle of the road green' and run them either army depending on what I want/need.
I want to get the Knight box. Or at least, I _wanted_ to until GW revealed it'd be nearly 200 fucking euros. For 4 armigers and a gutted Questoris?! I was willing to pay 180 for it, accounting for the sprues missing it was still good value, and a second Questoris could very easily fix whatever the one in the box was missing while also expanding the army. But for 200? I might as well buy them all separately, as that's just outright better value! Edit: Having done some research online, when the Imperial Knight first released it cost 85 quid. This was without all the upgrade sprues that we now have, and perfectly matches the one in the battleforce. Armigers are £57.50 per pair, so £115. Altogether, it's £190. So the box is literally a _-5.26%_ discount.
Not sure about your maths. Questoris is £110, Armigers are £57.50 a box. That's £225. This box is £150, maybe less at a FLGS. It's cheaper to buy this box than assemble the contents new from any FLGS.
@@laurencepenfold you are NOT getting the full Knight in the christmas box. It's missing 2 sprues or 40% of the plastic you get in a full retail kit. So proportionately, it's only worth £66. Which means the box only has £181 value at a laughable 17% discount. Is it a discount, technically. In the same way getting paid to get reamed is a job.
Their combat patrol is awful after the downgrade, and for these I think a few Gundam boxes are better quality and a lot cheaper. Iirc correctly, the Tau box was very few points.
Ngl the shirts have an abysmal fit. They make you look like a 50-60 year old father of three on holiday, during the all inclusive breakfast before going to the beach.
Jay, before you totally write off the Void Dragon, please just - turn it around, look at it from behind. The real reason to take C'tan is that they're caked up!
I plan to take the dark angels box and kit bash them into grey knights for my grey knight army. Turn the 10 death wing knights into paladins. The 6 inner circle companions into a grey knight kill team. Then turn the lion into kaldor draigo.
Jay I love your videos man! Your general positivity and excitement around the hobby is such a breath of fresh air and it really makes me excited to do my own hobbying
Not quite. The Chainbreaker Lance one released two years ago didn't have the options to build all of the Armigers as Helverins or Warglaves. You were limited to two of each. But then you did get all the Knight sprues. So with this box you've traded up a couple of big knight weapon sprues for 4 small armiger weapon sprues. (2 extra of the Helverin and Warglave sprues.) Really not sure that's a better deal tbh.
Sadly the Tau box is just over 500 points, Tau points are kinda weird, but you're getting the ghostkeel for free. I'm tempted for the Dark Angels one, even though I don't otherwise have any intent on starting space marines.
If the Tau box had come with three regular crisis suits instead of a commander, and a rebalance to the riptide to up it to 250 points with stats to justify it, then it'd be a good box. Hell you could probably get two of them and make it work. But as-is the points are too low and you won't need that many commanders since they already come in the combat patrol.
@@knightsljx Right, the Titus mini doesn't actually exist after all Maybe shit on companies with things they actually do like their insane price hiking instead of coming up with bullshit
The Tau box could drop the Ghostkeel/Commander for crisis suits/Farsight, getting max options with the CP box. The Necron box doesnt synergize well. A Monolith is the better option over the C'tann or drop the warriors for a combo of lokhust heavies, hexmarks, or immortals/deathmarks. GW combined the least sellable and played units in the Sisters codex, no centerpeice is wild! Maybe itll sell with your logic Jay, haha. The Knights box isnt as bad as people think. You get all the options for the Armigers unlike the last one. Idk why people are pressed about the knight, the Paladin is solid. The DA box is perfect! If I had the extra funds Id be trying my hardest to get it. Good luck to those trying to get it haha
What's funny is there's 2 xenos boxes. Xenos isn't necessarily the issue (other than the Tau and Necron boxes aren't that great, needing some swapping) but there's 0 chaos. Granted CSm had 2 boxes this year and the cult legions had one each recently, but I guess Daemons would have been interesting? We need dark admech or smth soon.
Lmao daemons is most likely getting taken out back behind the woodshed and given the Old Yeller special, so I doubt they’re wanting to release a whole value box for em anytime soon.
Necron Warriors are just Flayed Ones or Deathmarks waiting to happen. Leftover death mark guns from the immortal box or random sharp bits for claw/knife hands and some green stuff skin and your surplus warriors are useful now. I wonder if I could make Triarch Preatorians out of warriors + leftover bits.
On another video, a commenter told of a GW employee saying that the Christmas battleforce boxes were indeed a way to move what they had too much of. If true, that would fit with the Dark Angels being in surplus and possibly the big knight in that box being new old stock. It also implies that the goal is to not manufacture any new sprues for these things beyond their existing surplus. I managed to snag the Knights box from a discount retailer myself. I recently also got a modern Questoris box at a good price (below US discount retailers even with shipping) so I'll be able to make Canis Rex with that box and then can do the majority of the other big knight builds with the extra bits Canis can't use. I'll keep an eye out for the absent sprue (I hesitate to call it "missing" given the new old stock theory) on eBay in case I really want a Thunderstrike gauntlet on the non-Canis knight at some point but think this will be a good start for a Knight army. But it also would not have been worth it had I paid the full GW MSRP for the battleforce instead of lucking out with a discount retailer that hadn't sold out of everything.
I’m curious about getting the Nurgle box for AOS and thankfully my LGS asked the us warhammer players if we were interested in any of boxes a week ago. It also helps that when your are friends the staff
My FLGS buys/sells so much GW product that they get at least 50 of any major launch box, 20% discount due to their volume of purchases, and they're only getting single digit boxes for some of these boxes which is insane
I completely agree with the dark angels box. Everyone has raved about it, but I don't need a 2nd lion. 😂 The only thing people can do is try and sell him off and use the knights bodys for normal terminators if they already have the full squad of knights. and the knights box missing the rest of the sprues make it less of a deal.
Im a first born Dark Angels player...with a full 100 marine 3rd Company. I only have 1 primaris marine that I got to paint...this might be a fun battle force to get.
from a different perspective of the Hobby: if i would be in the Market right now, i would totally get a Dark Angels Box because they would look neat on a shelf
The sisters box is fun lore wise - it’s all the really messed up ecclesiastical penitent stuff, the really nasty bit of the imperium. Stick in some inquisitors and it’s the most evil force in warhammer.
The joy of building knights for me isn't the 'building' its the modifying that comes after to make each unique. But knights that don't flirt with heresy probably don't deal with that.
Still getting the knights box, its great for me specifically(owning no knights at all and I own both a resin and fdm printer so I can print missing items)
I just started playing and collecting and I chose Dark Angels as my first army. I can not wait to pick up that box, I am so glad I did not pick up the Lion when I was creating my list
Haha in Australia, there where 10 of the DA boxes sent to the largest 3rd party, and 5 or less to the other 5 moat popular ones. So at $405 from GW, not a chance.
I was excited about the knight box until it came to light GW had cheaped out with the questoris kit. Between that and the higher than expected price it ranks at stellar "it might be kind of okay, maybe". And that was still the most interesting of the bunch so I'm not worrying about the F5 wars for the boxes this year.
Surprise surprise the sisters box is still hanging around, almost like the line up for it is so confused about what it wants to include that it feels like a jumbled mess they threw together last minute.
12:52 I found a solution for this! Every squad is a Killteam. I play guard and there's a lot, so it makes sense, but when each guardsman has a role it prevents them from being another guardsman. Plus it fills out my kill teams! Even, and sometimes especially weird ones like blooded or whatever (as long as they have a kinda guard statline) I can get weird with, "why are these guard in particular so violent/organized/stealthy or whatever else that team brings.
This is the first year in awhile that I won’t be picking up a Battle Force box. I bought the Ad Mech, the previous Sisters box, Drukhari, and Tyranids boxes. I was hoping for an Aeldari box with all the new aspect warriors in it and maybe a tank, maybe next year.
I’ve bought quite a bit of Battle Force boxes over the years (Ad Mech, Sisters, Drukharii, World Eaters, Nids). This is the first year in sometime that I won’t be getting one. Hopefully next year an Aedari box makes its rounds.
I'm brand new to T'au (only have their old Combat Patrol and a Broadside) so this Holiday box seems perfect for me to build up my army, I wish it had Crisis Suits though
Your point about getting exactly what you want is super good to point out. I don't play, I just like collecting stuff to paint so boxes like this are just not for me at all
I want the Dark Angels one. I have enough generic marine stuff still on sprue that if i can get the DA box it will be a 2000 point army ready to go. I already ordered 2 of the upgrades and transfers and Asmodai.
Dark angels was sold out in seconds from online retailers, managed to pick up the knight one for £120, £30 for each set of armigers and £60 for a knight without weapons sprues isn't bad, I've got magnetised weapons already
I gotta confess, ive been a DA guy since i got into it back in 2012 and i still dont have inner circle companions or the Lion lol… but i should have him by christmas this year. Will have to wait a few months later to get some inner circle guys. I do want to find some inner circle knights from FW at some point as well.
I thought about the dark angels box, but I'm deciding against it. I don't have the lion or companions, since I run pure deathwing, but I already maxed out on what deathwing I can actually take.
Void Dragon is 290 points it is an absolute slap for its cost this box is worth it just alone with the 2 lychguard @60 usd each and void at 130$ the warriors are basically free
I'm debating the ironjawz box, but I don't really want that side of Orruk Warclans if they are splitting this edition, I have a Kruleboyz army, and I'm quite happy with them
Been wanting to start a dark angels army and am even currently painting azrael will be done today. I was at the mall with my fiancé when i remembered the pre-order drop and then I scrambled to camp the site on my phone, got it… looked again like five minutes later and it was the only box sold out 😬
Ye so I'm actually buying the Tau one. For now I collected ad-mech and I got kinda feed up with the infantry spam you had to do in this army so instead I want to try Tau. Xmas box with combat patrol and a stealth suit kit makes in to pretty good 1k army :3
Cracks me up, some other guy has been asking for ages,everyone's been laughing at him.. you say it any you get likes.. odd huh. Blue, red arm is boring as fark
100% agree. I'll skip the battle force boxes this year. I play Dark Angels and already have everything in the box. I might have been tempted if they had put out last year's Knight box as that had full kits. Still kicking myself that I passed on it.
I'm not gonna bother this year. If they remade the Drukhari beast pack and locked it in a Christmas box, you might get me GW... Ahem, cough, no pressure.
For the Tau set... its kinda a pure show piece box... like all there stuff looks like center pieces but value wise isn't there.. compare to the others it is the most showy next to knights...but if you have the combat box from earlier in the year it is a solid 1 2 punch just lacks kroot/melee
That Hypercrypt picture made me do a double take and check the official GW site. Models out of unit coherency feels more noticeable than empty background space.
When they came out with the christmas battleforces I was like, "Cool! Let me see if there's a T'au one!" and then I looked and I realized I had every single one of those models 2 feet to my right. And it's a great deal which makes it even worse.
dumb question(s): i wanted to start with wh40k and thought about getting the dark angels battleforce box as a start box, is it worth it, what price should i expect (in the eu/germany) and how long will it be available?
Fr, i just want things to paint - but paying that much for that little of a discount and little choice over what’s in it… it doesn’t make for much of an impulse purchase. The spearhead boxes in aos represent much better value for money for a painter
the tau one could be worth it for people like me, i dont play the game for some reasons but i still buy and paint for fun and in case i play because i want to play, so the tau one and others could be good just if you like the tau and want to build and paint them
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Seeing Jay wearing a Santa hat in a video in November is a battle shock test that I failed.....
Aye it is heresy!
So true
It's ok. Battleshock doesn't matter.
And I had no CP for insane bravery
The boss of this family said he's Santa Claus, he's Santa Claus so stfu abouwd it.
GW should make a hobbyist/painter's box where it's just a bunch of really cool models from different factions that would just be fun to paint.
I dig this idea
That would be sick.
They kinda did that in ninth, they bundled a 40k starter set with a redemptor, and three model storm cast painting bundle. But hard agree, a kid goes into the store and he sees a bunch of cool models together
GW has that with the Combat Arena: Lair of the Beast board game for a great price. Although it is is barns and noble exclusive
Or maybe an advent calendar for different factions, like a single mini everyday, and at the end you’ll have a nice collection. Maybe on the 25th you could get a vehicle
11:13 Fitting the sprues is not an issue here, two years ago they had the exact same knight box, but it also came with the newer sprues! So they 100% can fit them in the box!
they changed them out for the full armiger sprues. the 2022 knight box stuck you with 2 of each, while in the new one, you can have any combination. Which isn't to say the new one is better; it's not.
If you ignore the fact that every single Armiger got an extra sprue in this new box to be buildable as every version, then sure. Maybe learn to read before writing.
For the people saying 'they added all of the armiger sprues"; Those things are tiny! There's still half a large sprue less in this one than previous.
Lmao "fitting", its called ripping off ypur cuatomers- selling you the least for the most profit
@@SilimSavertin L
Man, I really appreciate your videos. You come across as authentically happy and enjoying the hobby and what you're doing. It's rare these days and I'm a fan. ❤
Agreed. Sometimes my hobby burns me out but Jay's positivity and creativity always motivate and inspire me.
Regarding the T'au Box: It's barely 600 points, depending on what kind of Commander you build it might be 10 points more or less. Other than that, it's probably one of the better deals if you get it at steep a discount from your friendly game store, since the Broadsides especially are stupidly expensive on their own. And depending on what kind of army you are building, especially if it's Retaliation Cadre, you might want 2-3 of all of those models in the box, because they're all just pretty good for their points cost.
'I bet the big stompy robots are really expensive points wise'
Yeah... about that...
By my math it's 535 points (90 + 95 + 160 + 190). It's about the best deal you're going to get for Tau at a little over 2 points per dollar but it's still not great and you're probably going to end up with an extra crisis commander down the line.
@@daaaah_whoosh Pointswise, it's really not a great deal, but all units in the box are quite useable and the models are pretty expensive on their own.
@@ElGrompho666 Yeah I know my perspective is really warped on this because I got both my Ghostkeel and my Riptide as gifts, and I got two old Broadsides for $10 each secondhand. It's likely the last time you'll get a deal this good for Tau, especially if you live in the US and they start rolling out tariffs next year
@@daaaah_whoosh Luckily, I don't. For me it would just be the question of making the "3 of everything" full, as I already have 2 of each in the box. The general price increase of the boxes bums me out though. Last year, I paid 144€ for the Votann box which had A LOT more points and models in it, now I'm supposed to pay 190 (maybe 170 with game store disctount) for less points and less models.
Regarding the Tau box:
The current combat patrol already has a commander with no unit to lead, and now you get a second one in the christmas box.
Crisis suits are a pretty important part of every tau army, they are expensive and there has been no way to get them discounted in quite a while (at least if you don't count the 80 second window you had to buy the bearding patrol).
I just don't feel like I should double up on all the models in the Christmas box for a mediocre discount, just in case they may show up again, bundled with any of the models I actually still need.
I bought the original CP at the launch of 10th when I was contemplating crossing the Rubicon from KillTeam to big 40k... But it has sat unbuilt and unpainted because the cost of building an army of sweet sweet Mecha just has me not wanting to bother.
yeah its pretty annoying they didnt throw crisis suits in the battleforce or even some stealth suits as the 5th unit. luckily i started back when they had the good start collecting so i need me some commanders haha
@@Cowgirlsteve26 yeah tau got shafted in 10th
army wide they went down by like 30-40% or so in points (if not a more for some models)
they are EXPENSIVE now
What was in the original combat patrol from the start of 10th compared to now/current one?
@@Kernash666 current one is 1 crisis commander, fire warrior squad, 1 pathfinder squad + a devilfish
old one was an ethereal, 1 fire warrior squad, a stealth suit squad, and a ghostkeel
in terms of raw quantity of plastic the new one probably is slightly better
BUT
the old one had slightly more variety, and actually had a battlesuit (the reason you play tau) in it
while the new one is infantry spam, and a leader that cant lead them
If I hadn't started a Salamanders army literally last month, I'd 100 percent have picked up that Dark Angels box.
Technically you could use as salamanders
Inner circle become blade guard
Knights become assault termies.
Chaplain is chaplain.
And then you can just say your dark angels if you want to play lion and salamanders if your not.
Both armies are green so most won't notice a difference.
Ooh that's a good one@@lizadon0740
Two extra coats of nuln oil and boom, dark angels lol
@@lizadon0740 not goning to lie that is exactly my plan, paint models that can cross over a 'middle of the road green' and run them either army depending on what I want/need.
I want to get the Knight box. Or at least, I _wanted_ to until GW revealed it'd be nearly 200 fucking euros. For 4 armigers and a gutted Questoris?! I was willing to pay 180 for it, accounting for the sprues missing it was still good value, and a second Questoris could very easily fix whatever the one in the box was missing while also expanding the army. But for 200? I might as well buy them all separately, as that's just outright better value!
Edit: Having done some research online, when the Imperial Knight first released it cost 85 quid. This was without all the upgrade sprues that we now have, and perfectly matches the one in the battleforce. Armigers are £57.50 per pair, so £115. Altogether, it's £190. So the box is literally a _-5.26%_ discount.
Not sure about your maths. Questoris is £110, Armigers are £57.50 a box. That's £225. This box is £150, maybe less at a FLGS. It's cheaper to buy this box than assemble the contents new from any FLGS.
Its genuinely just better idea going 3rd party with these stuff ngl
@@laurencepenfold You dont get any extra weapons tho.
This is not good box for new players.
@@laurencepenfold I'm comparing the original questoris (no additional weapon sprues).
@@laurencepenfold you are NOT getting the full Knight in the christmas box. It's missing 2 sprues or 40% of the plastic you get in a full retail kit. So proportionately, it's only worth £66. Which means the box only has £181 value at a laughable 17% discount. Is it a discount, technically. In the same way getting paid to get reamed is a job.
Not even subtitles can keep up with Jay’s intros for model memories
The dark angel set if you ignore the Lion is just a good box if you want some alternative bladeguard and assault terminators
"si-tan"
"the void dragon is like 400 points" (it's actually 290)
"Kah-taan"*.
I think he was thinking about the silent king
I don't care for Tau but the robo box is pretty cool
Their combat patrol is awful after the downgrade, and for these I think a few Gundam boxes are better quality and a lot cheaper.
Iirc correctly, the Tau box was very few points.
@@mycatistypingthis5450 It's 520 points. That's a little more than a combat patrol is SUPPOSED to be for like twice the price. Jesus christ GW
that’s like the core tau army, maybe you should rethink your disdain 😁 come to the greater good
Ngl the shirts have an abysmal fit. They make you look like a 50-60 year old father of three on holiday, during the all inclusive breakfast before going to the beach.
So, like, the average 40k fan?
Jay, before you totally write off the Void Dragon, please just - turn it around, look at it from behind. The real reason to take C'tan is that they're caked up!
Think Poorhammer said the sisters box is basically just two old combat patrols
Thats cause it is, except you dont get actual battle sisters and get a priest instead
@@miccheck2754 Thats why l got it. I already have 3 BS squads but didnt have full squads of the other penitent units and l got it for $200
I plan to take the dark angels box and kit bash them into grey knights for my grey knight army. Turn the 10 death wing knights into paladins. The 6 inner circle companions into a grey knight kill team. Then turn the lion into kaldor draigo.
Can't think of a bigger downgrade to cuck knights lmao.
Update I did not get the box cause the moment I stop looking every few minutes that’s when they are released and they were sold out in minutes.
Jay I love your videos man! Your general positivity and excitement around the hobby is such a breath of fresh air and it really makes me excited to do my own hobbying
If I remember hearing correctly that Knights box is the same one from a year or two ago except it doesn't have those extra sprues.
Not quite. The Chainbreaker Lance one released two years ago didn't have the options to build all of the Armigers as Helverins or Warglaves. You were limited to two of each. But then you did get all the Knight sprues. So with this box you've traded up a couple of big knight weapon sprues for 4 small armiger weapon sprues. (2 extra of the Helverin and Warglave sprues.) Really not sure that's a better deal tbh.
@davidcallier9679 thanks for the fix!
I love the Void Dragon model and I think it would be cool to see it painted up in your necron paint scheme
Sadly the Tau box is just over 500 points, Tau points are kinda weird, but you're getting the ghostkeel for free. I'm tempted for the Dark Angels one, even though I don't otherwise have any intent on starting space marines.
If the Tau box had come with three regular crisis suits instead of a commander, and a rebalance to the riptide to up it to 250 points with stats to justify it, then it'd be a good box. Hell you could probably get two of them and make it work. But as-is the points are too low and you won't need that many commanders since they already come in the combat patrol.
It’s strange that we didn’t get a Tyranid box since the 10th edition and SM2 had a lot of Tyranids and brought a lot of people into the hobby
you're assuming GW does any sort of planning for tie-ins, they don't
@@knightsljx Right, the Titus mini doesn't actually exist after all
Maybe shit on companies with things they actually do like their insane price hiking instead of coming up with bullshit
Nids box was last year
None of these boxes are too exciding, to be honest. Although the big Tau robots could be interesting.
The Tau box could drop the Ghostkeel/Commander for crisis suits/Farsight, getting max options with the CP box. The Necron box doesnt synergize well. A Monolith is the better option over the C'tann or drop the warriors for a combo of lokhust heavies, hexmarks, or immortals/deathmarks. GW combined the least sellable and played units in the Sisters codex, no centerpeice is wild! Maybe itll sell with your logic Jay, haha. The Knights box isnt as bad as people think. You get all the options for the Armigers unlike the last one. Idk why people are pressed about the knight, the Paladin is solid. The DA box is perfect! If I had the extra funds Id be trying my hardest to get it. Good luck to those trying to get it haha
....the cp box?
@sarge1408 Combat Patrol box haha
you missed a prime opportunity to sat "ho ho how could you possibly have more to say?"
I can't be arsed to shell out my hard earned bones for any of these.
Saving up for the wolves box if it is good.
What's funny is there's 2 xenos boxes. Xenos isn't necessarily the issue (other than the Tau and Necron boxes aren't that great, needing some swapping) but there's 0 chaos. Granted CSm had 2 boxes this year and the cult legions had one each recently, but I guess Daemons would have been interesting? We need dark admech or smth soon.
Lmao daemons is most likely getting taken out back behind the woodshed and given the Old Yeller special, so I doubt they’re wanting to release a whole value box for em anytime soon.
Necron Warriors are just Flayed Ones or Deathmarks waiting to happen. Leftover death mark guns from the immortal box or random sharp bits for claw/knife hands and some green stuff skin and your surplus warriors are useful now.
I wonder if I could make Triarch Preatorians out of warriors + leftover bits.
On another video, a commenter told of a GW employee saying that the Christmas battleforce boxes were indeed a way to move what they had too much of. If true, that would fit with the Dark Angels being in surplus and possibly the big knight in that box being new old stock. It also implies that the goal is to not manufacture any new sprues for these things beyond their existing surplus.
I managed to snag the Knights box from a discount retailer myself. I recently also got a modern Questoris box at a good price (below US discount retailers even with shipping) so I'll be able to make Canis Rex with that box and then can do the majority of the other big knight builds with the extra bits Canis can't use. I'll keep an eye out for the absent sprue (I hesitate to call it "missing" given the new old stock theory) on eBay in case I really want a Thunderstrike gauntlet on the non-Canis knight at some point but think this will be a good start for a Knight army. But it also would not have been worth it had I paid the full GW MSRP for the battleforce instead of lucking out with a discount retailer that hadn't sold out of everything.
I’m curious about getting the Nurgle box for AOS and thankfully my LGS asked the us warhammer players if we were interested in any of boxes a week ago. It also helps that when your are friends the staff
My FLGS buys/sells so much GW product that they get at least 50 of any major launch box, 20% discount due to their volume of purchases, and they're only getting single digit boxes for some of these boxes which is insane
Warhammer is overestimating the demand for these crap boxes. Barely anyone pre-ordered at my FLGS, everyone is just turned off
I completely agree with the dark angels box. Everyone has raved about it, but I don't need a 2nd lion. 😂 The only thing people can do is try and sell him off and use the knights bodys for normal terminators if they already have the full squad of knights. and the knights box missing the rest of the sprues make it less of a deal.
As someone who has a dark angels army but didn't have the money at the time.. this box is perfect
Im a first born Dark Angels player...with a full 100 marine 3rd Company. I only have 1 primaris marine that I got to paint...this might be a fun battle force to get.
from a different perspective of the Hobby: if i would be in the Market right now, i would totally get a Dark Angels Box because they would look neat on a shelf
Sooo... a T-shirt commercial, followed by a GW Battlebox ad, and then the EOB webstore and merch. Class 🧐
As someone who just started making an Alpha Legion army using Dark Angels rules, the Dark Angels box is a godsend
The sisters box is fun lore wise - it’s all the really messed up ecclesiastical penitent stuff, the really nasty bit of the imperium. Stick in some inquisitors and it’s the most evil force in warhammer.
The joy of building knights for me isn't the 'building' its the modifying that comes after to make each unique. But knights that don't flirt with heresy probably don't deal with that.
Still getting the knights box, its great for me specifically(owning no knights at all and I own both a resin and fdm printer so I can print missing items)
I just started playing and collecting and I chose Dark Angels as my first army. I can not wait to pick up that box, I am so glad I did not pick up the Lion when I was creating my list
I would have been tempted by the Sisters box if I hadn't bought almost everything in it while starting a Sisters army with the Codex drop.
Haha in Australia, there where 10 of the DA boxes sent to the largest 3rd party, and 5 or less to the other 5 moat popular ones.
So at $405 from GW, not a chance.
I was excited about the knight box until it came to light GW had cheaped out with the questoris kit. Between that and the higher than expected price it ranks at stellar "it might be kind of okay, maybe".
And that was still the most interesting of the bunch so I'm not worrying about the F5 wars for the boxes this year.
Nick, the Riptide is 180 points and I believe it's the most expensive model in that box points wise. It's like 500 points in the box
Alreaddy pre-purchased the necron box. The void dragon is too cool, and you can never have too many warriors and lychguards
I would love to spend time in tutelage under Jay to learn all the secrets to making such amazing models! Maybe even learn to play Malifaux!
Surprise surprise the sisters box is still hanging around, almost like the line up for it is so confused about what it wants to include that it feels like a jumbled mess they threw together last minute.
12:52 I found a solution for this! Every squad is a Killteam. I play guard and there's a lot, so it makes sense, but when each guardsman has a role it prevents them from being another guardsman. Plus it fills out my kill teams!
Even, and sometimes especially weird ones like blooded or whatever (as long as they have a kinda guard statline) I can get weird with, "why are these guard in particular so violent/organized/stealthy or whatever else that team brings.
This is the first year in awhile that I won’t be picking up a Battle Force box. I bought the Ad Mech, the previous Sisters box, Drukhari, and Tyranids boxes. I was hoping for an Aeldari box with all the new aspect warriors in it and maybe a tank, maybe next year.
Hopefully I can get myself a Tau Box.
So far I only have the Devilfish patrol and Shadowsun so everything in it is useful.
I’ve bought quite a bit of Battle Force boxes over the years (Ad Mech, Sisters, Drukharii, World Eaters, Nids). This is the first year in sometime that I won’t be getting one. Hopefully next year an Aedari box makes its rounds.
6 crisis battle suits instead of the ghost would've been a perfect box for me
I laughed out loud on the how…..nice!!!!! Thanks gents!! Fantastic as always!!!
I'm picking up the knight box simply to have a big stompy Blood Angels knight.
I'm brand new to T'au (only have their old Combat Patrol and a Broadside) so this Holiday box seems perfect for me to build up my army, I wish it had Crisis Suits though
Your point about getting exactly what you want is super good to point out. I don't play, I just like collecting stuff to paint so boxes like this are just not for me at all
I'm purely an Age of Sigmar model collector at this point, haven't played much. These Xmas battle boxes for 40K are extremely tempting though
Where did you still have the box that came with the codex? I cant find it wanywhere 😢
I’m a beginner and picked up the sisters of battle box here. I only have a squad of battle sisters right now that I’m still assembling
I want the Dark Angels one. I have enough generic marine stuff still on sprue that if i can get the DA box it will be a 2000 point army ready to go.
I already ordered 2 of the upgrades and transfers and Asmodai.
Im so excited tonget the Dark Angels box! Its going to be my first army and i also got the Combat Patrol box on order as well to get ranged squads
Dark angels was sold out in seconds from online retailers, managed to pick up the knight one for £120, £30 for each set of armigers and £60 for a knight without weapons sprues isn't bad, I've got magnetised weapons already
I wish the had 2 tiers of holiday boxes. Maybe one at the $100-150 price point. My kids are kind of interested in 40k, but not $250 interested.
I gotta confess, ive been a DA guy since i got into it back in 2012 and i still dont have inner circle companions or the Lion lol… but i should have him by christmas this year. Will have to wait a few months later to get some inner circle guys. I do want to find some inner circle knights from FW at some point as well.
As a Tau player you want everything in the Tau box. That is however about 500 points of models.
I thought about the dark angels box, but I'm deciding against it. I don't have the lion or companions, since I run pure deathwing, but I already maxed out on what deathwing I can actually take.
Love your reviews man!
Sometimes I forget warhammer minis are a lot more expensive overseas than here in the UK
Void Dragon is 290 points it is an absolute slap for its cost this box is worth it just alone with the 2 lychguard @60 usd each and void at 130$ the warriors are basically free
new video?! my day is saved!
You know, I'm starting to think there isn't a live studio audience. I'm starting to think he made it all up!
I'm debating the ironjawz box, but I don't really want that side of Orruk Warclans if they are splitting this edition, I have a Kruleboyz army, and I'm quite happy with them
Been wanting to start a dark angels army and am even currently painting azrael will be done today. I was at the mall with my fiancé when i remembered the pre-order drop and then I scrambled to camp the site on my phone, got it… looked again like five minutes later and it was the only box sold out 😬
Scalper scumbags at work...
Got the T’au box for $254 aud including postage, really happy :)
Ye so I'm actually buying the Tau one. For now I collected ad-mech and I got kinda feed up with the infantry spam you had to do in this army so instead I want to try Tau. Xmas box with combat patrol and a stealth suit kit makes in to pretty good 1k army :3
I picked up the dark angels box as I've just started collecting dark angels and it gets me a lot of things I need, also here in australia is $405
I have a Dark Angels army and only had one box of Knights. I am 100% getting this box 😋
Crimson Fists next, please.
seconded
CRIMSON FISTS!!!!!
Crimson fistssss
I would laugh if they made it with old resin Pedro Kantor model inside 😂
Cracks me up, some other guy has been asking for ages,everyone's been laughing at him.. you say it any you get likes.. odd huh.
Blue, red arm is boring as fark
100% agree. I'll skip the battle force boxes this year. I play Dark Angels and already have everything in the box. I might have been tempted if they had put out last year's Knight box as that had full kits. Still kicking myself that I passed on it.
Void dragon is amazing rn by the way. He’s only 290, and is obnoxious to shift
I'm not gonna bother this year. If they remade the Drukhari beast pack and locked it in a Christmas box, you might get me GW... Ahem, cough, no pressure.
For the Tau set... its kinda a pure show piece box... like all there stuff looks like center pieces but value wise isn't there.. compare to the others it is the most showy next to knights...but if you have the combat box from earlier in the year it is a solid 1 2 punch just lacks kroot/melee
could you do a video going over all the new combat patrols ? i’m new and haven’t seen anyone talk about it they’re worth it or not
Jay: "i wish there were more xenos boxes".
Me(a chaos player): "am i a joke to you?"
That Hypercrypt picture made me do a double take and check the official GW site. Models out of unit coherency feels more noticeable than empty background space.
Tau do just feel like higher tech level imperial guard.
Can´t you kitbash something with the necron warriors?
I wanted to get Dark Angels, then I noticed the Dark Angels intro box with belial, that i didnt even start. I can wait to get the lion ...
When they came out with the christmas battleforces I was like, "Cool! Let me see if there's a T'au one!" and then I looked and I realized I had every single one of those models 2 feet to my right. And it's a great deal which makes it even worse.
I see jay with gundam in hand, am I seeing a future hobby
dumb question(s):
i wanted to start with wh40k and thought about getting the dark angels battleforce box as a start box, is it worth it, what price should i expect (in the eu/germany) and how long will it be available?
I think I would consider buying Christmas battle forces if they where smaller and cost around 100-150$.
Fr, i just want things to paint - but paying that much for that little of a discount and little choice over what’s in it… it doesn’t make for much of an impulse purchase.
The spearhead boxes in aos represent much better value for money for a painter
I’ve been waiting for a Dark Angels Christmas box since I’ve been playing and of course now that I have all of the stuff they release this box lol
I'm getting up early to pre order Inner Circle Task Force at my local GW shop
the tau one could be worth it for people like me, i dont play the game for some reasons but i still buy and paint for fun and in case i play because i want to play, so the tau one and others could be good just if you like the tau and want to build and paint them
I need explanation on why is the terminator prist in the dark angels one it can't lead any of them so why?
But do you think the necron box is good for somebody just starting in necrons
3:30 id paint them like original mecha suits 😂