If you have the extra $10k and more for some tuning love...OR...or...If you have small demons that were spawned from your seed and need to go to evil meetings like "soccer practice" and "recitals"...Sure, buy the SHO.
Michael 1 It's only 300$ to tune your sho!!! Spend about $500 on mods for ur sho and ur looking at around 400hp! Not bad if you ask me and they have nice features like heated/cooled seats,paddle shifters and remote tint for back window! Shit like that you usually see on luxurious cars,i want one lol
The Mustang has always been my favorite car and my favorite sounding car, but I do think the last gen of the GTO and the G8 were the best sound cars ever.
I love seeing this :) I drive a 2007 Shelby, and we just bought my fiance a 2010 SHO. I honestly wasn't aware that they made these again ( I was aware of them in the '89-'90'ish version, didn't even know they were a thing again, or that they made them as long as they did!). We traded in her Edge SEL, and needed another AWD vehicle. Imagine my joy when I found out that I could get a TT V-6 AWD car, and convince her it was a good thing since it was AWD :) I swear, we get more thumbs up in her car than my GT500. Yeah, it's a pig-boat, 4K+lbs, but the AWD scoots it off the line nicely. She wants a bit more "sound" out of the exhaust. I agree, it's too quiet, but I told her that's what people expect when they buy a full-sized auto, zero road-noise. And man, that car has zero road noise. Not sure what they did, but I but 500 of those lbs went into sound-deadening!
alex benjamin Except to the uninitiated it still looks like every other Taurus so what's the point? Even if you blow someone's doors off they will tell their buddy over the drone of the fart can: "Damn, those Ford 500s sure are quick..."
warriorpluto My grandma has a 2013 Ford Taurus 2.0 ecoboost. 190k miles. No major issues. My mom's friend has a 2006 Ford Taurus, 160k miles no major issues. Not sure what you mean. Sorry you had issues.
@ManSpider Not to necro this comment thread but I just picked up a used 2011 SHO. My insurance went up 66 CENTS/month from a Lincoln Town Car. 29 years old though, no accidents or tickets on record. Would not want to see what a new Mustang GT would do to my insurance rate.
My girlfriend has the sel Taurus. Obviously not a SHO, but it still changed all my misconceptions about the Taurus from when i had the older style. I talked shit untill i drove it... so i went out and bought a SHO... 👌👍👏
To be clear: The SHO is tuned. And FI cars benefit greatly from a tune. The 5.0 is stock in terms of power. Given the weight and V-6 in the SHO it is still impressive. G8s are decent cars from all I've seen and heard. But a stock G8 is a high 13 second car, the SHO stock is low 14s and the 5.0 stock low 13s. This is not a matter of debate. The numbers and videos are out there. For every G8s in the low 13s there is a 5.0 in the 12s. Once you start modding it is a different matter. All mods being equal the lighter, more technologically advanced 5.0 will always have the advantage, all fanboi-ism aside. The great thing about an SHO is that with its AWD, it is fast year round, no matter what the road conditions.
Search TH-cam for "2014 5.0 GT vs 2011 5.0 GT vs Cammed G8GT". A G8 with ported heads, cams and many bolt-ons is beat by a 2014 5.0 with only catback. Is what it is!
the mustang is not stock it makes 375 rwhp factoring in the 15-20 percent parasitic drive train loss that cars receive the mean the motor is puting out 450hp- 470hp and the stock motor for the 2011 mustang 5.0 put out 412hp and was putting about 330-350rwhp to the ground so it got some work done to it too (rwhp= rear wheel horse power)
Ah, last time I looked a stock 5.0 ran 12.8@113.... You might want to update. It's a full sec and 8 mph faster than the G8 GT was. The G8 GXP on the other hand would get close, running a 13.2@110 mph.
Tavante Tyler Stock MT82 5.0's have been putting down around 370 at the wheels on average, straight off the lot. Autos are making around 340 last time I checked. The kind of driveline loss you're talking about is closer to an auto, the standard doesn't lose nearly as much. And Michael Harris I've seen a stock MT82 5.0 with the brembo package and 3.55 gears run a 12.6 @ 113 if you can believe that. Guy was trapping at around 6,500 in 4th gear, where 3.73's would be all over the rev limiter.
@MrCpe9775 The SHO ran 12.90 at the track, the Mustang ran low 13's. With a tune, the Mustang went low 12's, but when the video was shot, the Mustang was stock.
Yes I read the title; I was talking stock for stock; THEIR SHO can beat a near stock '13 GT, which is indeed very impressive for what is essentially a CAI, tune, and exhaust. I plan to buy this kit myself when I get an SHO in the near future, assuming the Air Force accepts me :)
@Dogurasu I know and what is up with those trees in the background too? I think there is a Do Not Enter sign also that I want to mention. and cell phone antennas. there is some grass, i definitely saw some grass.
I love the 2011 Mustang. They finally got it right, doing away with the anemic 4.6 SOHC as the base V8. But, and this comes from experience with V6 twin turbos, a turbo vehicle, especially a 6 cylinder turbo engine, has MUCH potential and takes little money to get a lot of extra horsepower and torque. All it takes is raising the boost. Depending on the size of the turbos and fuel injectors/fuel pump, you can get quite a jump in power.
+Chris Monroe Pfft, please... The LS is only good because the blocks are cheap and easy to come by. If you put the same amount of money into go-fast mods on both engines, the Coyote will outperform the LS even with less displacement. It's a newer, better, more efficient design. The things that hurt the Coyote are the physical size of the engine, it has less of an aftermarket since it's still fairly new, and the cost of the block itself. Those are the only reasons that the LS can still compete with the Coyote. Don't get me wrong - the LS has been a great engine up until now but the Coyote just IS a better engine. I would be happy to have either.
The G8 is a GXP with a manual trans, cam, CAI, headers, and exhaust. It runs low 12's on a stock street tire wheel hopping like crazy. It would easily beat both cars in thei video
@TheArfdog i dont understand why you dont get it. the 4v motor has 2 intake valves per cylinder opposed to nthe ls3's 1 intake valve per ncylinder. the two smaller valves cover more area than one large valve. put it this way. its a hot summer day, and you can get a 12oz drink or a 20oz drink. but there is a catch, the 12oz is buy one get one free. so, 2 * 12oz = 24oz. so the two smaller drinks have more volume total than the single large one.
@Cuseball121 LOL....neither one were spinning, so AWD had nothing to do with it. SHO just flat out raped the 5.0. An SHO has always made easy work of any Mustang since 1989.
@TheArfdog actually area of a circle is Pi*(radius squared) ls3 Pi*( .5 * 55mm squared ) is less than 5.0 Pi*(.5 62mm squared) per cylinder the ls3 has one (1) intake valve at 55mm. the 5.0 has two (2) 31mm intake valves. sooo what is it that you dont understand?
@AdverbAdjective In the meantime you keep on rolling those Hot Wheels on the walls and the lunch tables at school. Tell all your school friends about your collection and that you also have a vinyl Hot Wheels case to put them in when you're done playing with them at bedtime.
@40markava It is twin turbo and all wheel drive. Plus the stang only has suspension work in this video the SHO has a tune making it alot more hp then the 365.
@FordGTGuyThey are stripped interiors with a Kirkey racing seat, running 4.56 gears with a spool, clutch, complete drag suspension (adjustable struts/shocks, drag springs, adjustable panhard, Metco upper/lower arms), Bogart race wheels with slicks/skinnies, full exhaust, and then to top it off they "weren't sure" on the nitrous jetting. So after all that it is still only nos ok..And with those mods there is camaros and G8s running same times.
@TheArfdog 500 crank or whp? its right at 450 crank from the factory. and when it comes to hp, its airflow that tells the tale. 4v > 2v all day. the cubes just make up for the lack of valves.
@miguelsanchss just FYI the GT has the L76 with AFM, not the LS2. Wish it did tho, since I have a GT and would love the extra 40hp. And the G8 in this video is Livernois' owner's GXP. Check out Livernois' G8 videos.
of all the mods to the stang i didnt see any performance mods it was all suspension. was it stock power mustang? anyway great race should of found 3 wide road so the g8 could get in on it.
@GTO19020 Just to clarify, yes a tune on a TURBOCHARGED vehicle can cut 1-2 sec off the 1/4 mile time. Raising boost is the biggest factor in these tunes. BMW 335i, GTI, MAZDASPEED 3, COBALT SS T/C...all examples of such cars that have the potential to whoop major ass with a tune.
@TheArfdog I was talking mod-for-mod with the G8 in my initial post that started this debate. I was simply basing that on the 5.0 has a higher starting horsepower than the G8 GXP, therefore the same mods on each car, the mustang should end up with higher horsepower than the G8 GXP. Stock dynos for the GXP show 365-367rwhp and the new 5.0 at 375-378rwhp. Just my 2 cents.
@ohioborn80 the edmounds video of the dyno has the car putting down 395 to the rear tires which suggest ford is being conservative and it really makes close to 450 at the crank. Do you think that it is a bogus video?
@rmiles01 Um I never disagreed that CFM determined hp. But how are you going to get more CFM through a smaller intake valve area? (2150 mm^2 vs 2463 mm^2)? I'll let you guess which has the bigger valve area, it's not the 5.0. Smaller displacement and smaller intake means the 5.0 won't make more power with bolt-ons than an LS7. I doubt it would match even an LS3.
5.0's make around 375whp stock...So that was a STOCK 5.0 vs a mod'd AWD SHO...Wow big surprise on the outcome on a race from 0-70mph!!! GREAT vid!! Now lets see the outcome on a 50mph roll vs that same stock 5.0!
@IxOVERKILLxI Have you heard about how much weight? and what platfrom? or maybe a link to were you read that... I would love to read more about it I like to Keep up on new and upcoming changesgoing on in the car world...
@svtbird46 have you got it to the track? what did you run? IN my stock G8 GT i was able to get a 13.34@ 103. On all season tires. Cold weather and sticky track.
@Sublime570 The G8 is a smaller full-size car, the Taurus is a large, wide, heavy full-size car, and the Mustang is pony/muscle car which can be modded to achieve 9's on street tires. Different classes.
@TheArfdog im speaking of the ls3. the ls7 is a different story. but please tell me how one (1) LS3 intake 55mm valve covers more area than the mustangs two (2) 31mm intake valves? 62mm > 55mm
@redd7188 edmunds also only ran a 13.3. where motortrend had it at over 400 to wheels if remember right. And tehy ran a 12.88. Diff dynos, diff air, temps. One one dyno i put 389 to the wheels and with auto that is 460ish to wheels with diff dyno diff day i only put 357. then on another dyno i put 371hp to the wheels which is right with others with same mods i have.
@LivernoisMotorsports after looking at teh SHO awhile ago they are really nice...and like the G8s true sleepers...looks like the G8 walking both them..haha seen your post about G8..How you think a bolt on G8 compares to teh stang...LTs, exhaust, tune, CAI, UDP,
yeah i thought so too but i drove both and just bought a 2010 sho. Happy with the decision. same power as the G8 GT but many more interior features to enjoy when not running the hell out of it.
@LivernoisMotorsports Has there been any reliability issues with the ecoboost with the tune on it? The engine will be stressed a bit more than normal. I ask bc I currently have a 05 F150 extended cab 6.5' bed and after adding about 100 tq by using comp cams spr and porting the heads, ect. and the transmission did not last long and it burns through spark plugs (it isnt running lean). Even though the engine can run higher now, the cooling system hates it, hoses keep failing. 0-60 @ 5.2 sec
@miguelsanchss nah the 6.0 in the GT is the L76 from the GM trucks like the Avalanche and the Suburban. Needs the torque for the G8's 4,000 lbs. 361hp, 385ft. tq
@rmiles01 Right you are. The LS7 might have fewer valves, but the valves are big and GM did their fluid dynamics homework. I'm sure the Ford flows just as well, maybe more, but GM chose much bigger displacement and bigger ports, so it's going to flow more. Not trying to piss on the Ford motor, but it's hard to get that much power from 5 liters, NA. It would have to rev to 7800 (with a valvetrain made of unicorn horns) to make 500 whp.
the G8 is da bomb and when i was in Bahrain and saw the Chevy Caprice (that's what it was there even before Pontiac picked it up from the Australian Holden) I said a prayer each time i saw it hoping it would come to the states. Well it did and Pontiac died but my thoughts were that it would make a hot ass Impala but I'm good with a cooler name - JUST BRING BACK THIS AWESOME RIDE!!!! Other than that those two Fords would look good paired up in any American driveway. Ford is doing big things.
I have a 96 ford thunderbird v6 with an Msd Coil, muffler delete, and oversized bearings for the crank, new rods and polished pistons. How does the tuning process work? And i assume its a Dyno tune
+George Farah Well, similar, but not necessarily equivalent. there are unique aspects of both vehicles and their corresponding calibrations. With that being said, we would only be able to do it in house, not remotely.
So basically screw the mustang and get the roomier, more fuel efficient, and evidently faster Taurus SHO.
If you have the extra $10k and more for some tuning love...OR...or...If you have small demons that were spawned from your seed and need to go to evil meetings like "soccer practice" and "recitals"...Sure, buy the SHO.
sho has always ben faster than the mustang. 4.6 or 5.0
Luis F If you believe this 1 YT video over anything else than yes
Luis F no mustang
Michael 1 It's only 300$ to tune your sho!!! Spend about $500 on mods for ur sho and ur looking at around 400hp! Not bad if you ask me and they have nice features like heated/cooled seats,paddle shifters and remote tint for back window! Shit like that you usually see on luxurious cars,i want one lol
The Mustang has always been my favorite car and my favorite sounding car, but I do think the last gen of the GTO and the G8 were the best sound cars ever.
I think pure v8 sound goes to the gt350 but most murica sounding v8 is a c6 vette
Thank you guys, one day when I have more means I'm going to come to you guys to help make my 2010 SHO more fun!
Man that g8 sounds beastly
Right I was going to say the same lol
i love how it says filmed on closed road yet i see random cars driving in the distance
The cars are just cgi🤣
That G8 GXP THOUGH! Such a good looking, sounding and badass car! Sorry, what was the point of this video again? I got distracted.
To show performance differences and overall fun between the two different applications.
I love seeing this :) I drive a 2007 Shelby, and we just bought my fiance a 2010 SHO. I honestly wasn't aware that they made these again ( I was aware of them in the '89-'90'ish version, didn't even know they were a thing again, or that they made them as long as they did!). We traded in her Edge SEL, and needed another AWD vehicle. Imagine my joy when I found out that I could get a TT V-6 AWD car, and convince her it was a good thing since it was AWD :) I swear, we get more thumbs up in her car than my GT500. Yeah, it's a pig-boat, 4K+lbs, but the AWD scoots it off the line nicely. She wants a bit more "sound" out of the exhaust. I agree, it's too quiet, but I told her that's what people expect when they buy a full-sized auto, zero road-noise. And man, that car has zero road noise. Not sure what they did, but I but 500 of those lbs went into sound-deadening!
+Brooke Jones And now you see part of the reason we love these cars :-) now put a tune on it and watch what it can do!
Also, where did those fogs lights come from on the lower facia? They look AWESOME on that 5.0...
that g8 sounded so good
@norwood1026 The Mustang went 13.2 stock. The SHO went 12.9 as it sat in the video, plus it's AWD, so it leaves hard.
Geez..id get the SHO...cause everyone has the Mustang.
cheaper on insurance too and better on gas. fuck mustangs i see them 5 times a day .. taurus maybe once a week
alex benjamin
Except to the uninitiated it still looks like every other Taurus so what's the point? Even if you blow someone's doors off they will tell their buddy over the drone of the fart can: "Damn, those Ford 500s sure are quick..."
Ford Taurus... I see like 15 of those everyday. Older and newer. See plenty of 90's Taurus still around surprisingly as well.
warriorpluto My grandma has a 2013 Ford Taurus 2.0 ecoboost. 190k miles. No major issues. My mom's friend has a 2006 Ford Taurus, 160k miles no major issues. Not sure what you mean. Sorry you had issues.
@ManSpider Not to necro this comment thread but I just picked up a used 2011 SHO. My insurance went up 66 CENTS/month from a Lincoln Town Car. 29 years old though, no accidents or tickets on record. Would not want to see what a new Mustang GT would do to my insurance rate.
My girlfriend has the sel Taurus. Obviously not a SHO, but it still changed all my misconceptions about the Taurus from when i had the older style. I talked shit untill i drove it... so i went out and bought a SHO... 👌👍👏
They're definitely underappreciated cars!
To be clear: The SHO is tuned. And FI cars benefit greatly from a tune. The 5.0 is stock in terms of power. Given the weight and V-6 in the SHO it is still impressive. G8s are decent cars from all I've seen and heard. But a stock G8 is a high 13 second car, the SHO stock is low 14s and the 5.0 stock low 13s. This is not a matter of debate. The numbers and videos are out there. For every G8s in the low 13s there is a 5.0 in the 12s. Once you start modding it is a different matter. All mods being equal the lighter, more technologically advanced 5.0 will always have the advantage, all fanboi-ism aside. The great thing about an SHO is that with its AWD, it is fast year round, no matter what the road conditions.
Search TH-cam for "2014 5.0 GT vs 2011 5.0 GT vs Cammed G8GT". A G8 with ported heads, cams and many bolt-ons is beat by a 2014 5.0 with only catback. Is what it is!
the mustang is not stock it makes 375 rwhp factoring in the 15-20 percent parasitic drive train loss that cars receive the mean the motor is puting out 450hp- 470hp and the stock motor for the 2011 mustang 5.0 put out 412hp and was putting about 330-350rwhp to the ground so it got some work done to it too (rwhp= rear wheel horse power)
Ah, last time I looked a stock 5.0 ran 12.8@113.... You might want to update. It's a full sec and 8 mph faster than the G8 GT was. The G8 GXP on the other hand would get close, running a 13.2@110 mph.
Tavante Tyler Stock MT82 5.0's have been putting down around 370 at the wheels on average, straight off the lot. Autos are making around 340 last time I checked. The kind of driveline loss you're talking about is closer to an auto, the standard doesn't lose nearly as much. And Michael Harris I've seen a stock MT82 5.0 with the brembo package and 3.55 gears run a 12.6 @ 113 if you can believe that. Guy was trapping at around 6,500 in 4th gear, where 3.73's would be all over the rev limiter.
Tech4Dummies the fastest mustangs have all been auto tho.
@MrCpe9775 The SHO ran 12.90 at the track, the Mustang ran low 13's. With a tune, the Mustang went low 12's, but when the video was shot, the Mustang was stock.
Do a video on that Pontiac, sounded awesome
The real star of the show here is that g8 😮
based_will We did love our gxp!
@BAwithBALLS Actually, the G8 killed both of them at the track
@grandamgtracer9920 It has our stage 1C (stealth) camshaft, 1 7/8" shorty headers, Corsa Exhaust, Rotofab CAI, and Livernois Dyno Tune.
THAT G8 THOUGH!
Yes I read the title; I was talking stock for stock; THEIR SHO can beat a near stock '13 GT, which is indeed very impressive for what is essentially a CAI, tune, and exhaust. I plan to buy this kit myself when I get an SHO in the near future, assuming the Air Force accepts me :)
Damn, with all the suspension mods on the Stang I'm sure it would make a decent track car. Probably a lot of fun too
@makstone This GXP has a mild cam and exhaust and runs low 12's on street tires. Should go 11's with a drag radial.
And the G8 passes them all FTW!!!!!!!!!!! LOLOLOL
@Dogurasu I know and what is up with those trees in the background too? I think there is a Do Not Enter sign also that I want to mention. and cell phone antennas. there is some grass, i definitely saw some grass.
AWD G8 with ecoboost would = perfection
@SecularTechnology The G8 had a camera on the hood and was used as a chase car. It is much faster than both cars in the video.
This makes me want to sell my SHO and get a G8.
That g8 sounded badass
hate to say it but the G8 sounded the best
God damn that G8 stole the show😂😂
More like:
Short Lived, the G8 GXP
I love the 2011 Mustang. They finally got it right, doing away with the anemic 4.6 SOHC as the base V8. But, and this comes from experience with V6 twin turbos, a turbo vehicle, especially a 6 cylinder turbo engine, has MUCH potential and takes little money to get a lot of extra horsepower and torque. All it takes is raising the boost. Depending on the size of the turbos and fuel injectors/fuel pump, you can get quite a jump in power.
Only thing they got right in the video was the G8 and that LS power ;)
While we were quite partial to our g8 gxp, none of the cars in the video should be underestimated :-)
+Chris Monroe Pfft, please... The LS is only good because the blocks are cheap and easy to come by. If you put the same amount of money into go-fast mods on both engines, the Coyote will outperform the LS even with less displacement. It's a newer, better, more efficient design. The things that hurt the Coyote are the physical size of the engine, it has less of an aftermarket since it's still fairly new, and the cost of the block itself. Those are the only reasons that the LS can still compete with the Coyote.
Don't get me wrong - the LS has been a great engine up until now but the Coyote just IS a better engine. I would be happy to have either.
That G8 sounded awesome! GT or GXP either way one of the best high performance 4 door you can get!
This was a decent video until I saw a Pontiac.
The G8 is a GXP with a manual trans, cam, CAI, headers, and exhaust. It runs low 12's on a stock street tire wheel hopping like crazy. It would easily beat both cars in thei video
@TheArfdog The old 4v's have already eclipsed 450rwhp
The new 5.0 has recently made 414RWHP with a drop in filter and O/R exhaust.
@TheArfdog
i dont understand why you dont get it. the 4v motor has 2 intake valves per cylinder opposed to nthe ls3's 1 intake valve per ncylinder. the two smaller valves cover more area than one large valve.
put it this way. its a hot summer day, and you can get a 12oz drink or a 20oz drink. but there is a catch, the 12oz is buy one get one free. so, 2 * 12oz = 24oz. so the two smaller drinks have more volume total than the single large one.
@Cuseball121 LOL....neither one were spinning, so AWD had nothing to do with it. SHO just flat out raped the 5.0. An SHO has always made easy work of any Mustang since 1989.
@TheArfdog
actually area of a circle is Pi*(radius squared)
ls3 Pi*( .5 * 55mm squared ) is less than 5.0 Pi*(.5 62mm squared)
per cylinder the ls3 has one (1) intake valve at 55mm. the 5.0 has two (2) 31mm intake valves.
sooo what is it that you dont understand?
WOW.....that Taurus rocks. The all wheel drive had something to do with that but still very impressed.
yoshi can We agree!
@AdverbAdjective In the meantime you keep on rolling those Hot Wheels on the walls and the lunch tables at school. Tell all your school friends about your collection and that you also have a vinyl Hot Wheels case to put them in when you're done playing with them at bedtime.
@40markava It is twin turbo and all wheel drive. Plus the stang only has suspension work in this video the SHO has a tune making it alot more hp then the 365.
What front bumper is that on the mustang? Looks awesome with the fog lights at the bottom.
@FordGTGuyThey are stripped interiors with a Kirkey racing seat, running 4.56 gears with a spool, clutch, complete drag suspension (adjustable struts/shocks, drag springs, adjustable panhard, Metco upper/lower arms), Bogart race wheels with slicks/skinnies, full exhaust, and then to top it off they "weren't sure" on the nitrous jetting.
So after all that it is still only nos ok..And with those mods there is camaros and G8s running same times.
@TheArfdog
500 crank or whp? its right at 450 crank from the factory. and when it comes to hp, its airflow that tells the tale. 4v > 2v all day. the cubes just make up for the lack of valves.
@fordf22raptor Rear wheel horsepower is after it goes through the torque converter, gear stack and diff, most powertrains are 15-20% power loss
@miguelsanchss just FYI the GT has the L76 with AFM, not the LS2. Wish it did tho, since I have a GT and would love the extra 40hp.
And the G8 in this video is Livernois' owner's GXP. Check out Livernois' G8 videos.
of all the mods to the stang i didnt see any performance mods it was all suspension. was it stock power mustang? anyway great race should of found 3 wide road so the g8 could get in on it.
I Give props to the G8 sounds awesome.
hey whats the rims on the stang? PLEASE RESPOND! I LOVE THE MUSTANG!!!!
@GTO19020 Just to clarify, yes a tune on a TURBOCHARGED vehicle can cut 1-2 sec off the 1/4 mile time. Raising boost is the biggest factor in these tunes. BMW 335i, GTI, MAZDASPEED 3, COBALT SS T/C...all examples of such cars that have the potential to whoop major ass with a tune.
damn that a great looking mustang is that the roush facia? And what wheels are on that 2011 mustang 5.0 they look sick and size please thanks
very impressed with the SHO, what all was done to it? just a tune?
@TheArfdog I was talking mod-for-mod with the G8 in my initial post that started this debate. I was simply basing that on the 5.0 has a higher starting horsepower than the G8 GXP, therefore the same mods on each car, the mustang should end up with higher horsepower than the G8 GXP. Stock dynos for the GXP show 365-367rwhp and the new 5.0 at 375-378rwhp. Just my 2 cents.
The round fog lights are sweet on the GT! Are those stock or aftermarket? Other videos or pics of the 2011 gt doesn't have those round fog lights!
@ohioborn80 the edmounds video of the dyno has the car putting down 395 to the rear tires which suggest ford is being conservative and it really makes close to 450 at the crank. Do you think that it is a bogus video?
@rmiles01 Um I never disagreed that CFM determined hp.
But how are you going to get more CFM through a smaller intake valve area? (2150 mm^2 vs 2463 mm^2)? I'll let you guess which has the bigger valve area, it's not the 5.0. Smaller displacement and smaller intake means the 5.0 won't make more power with bolt-ons than an LS7. I doubt it would match even an LS3.
5.0's make around 375whp stock...So that was a STOCK 5.0 vs a mod'd AWD SHO...Wow big surprise on the outcome on a race from 0-70mph!!! GREAT vid!! Now lets see the outcome on a 50mph roll vs that same stock 5.0!
That g8 sounds really nice with that exhaust note
I love that even though the G8 wasn't part of the race its seems to be everyone's favorite part =D.... It was my favorite too =)
@LivernoisMotorsports you have any tunes and parts for the F-150 ecoboost yet?
@IxOVERKILLxI Have you heard about how much weight? and what platfrom? or maybe a link to were you read that... I would love to read more about it I like to Keep up on new and upcoming changesgoing on in the car world...
@scott06gt raised boost, increased timing, and transmission modifications with no torque management.
all that noise was coming from that G8... beast sound! It may be a four door car but if I had to get a four door car I would a pontiac G8
The good ol days of muscla cars kicking ass is BACK!
By the way, what size wheels and tires is that on the Mustang?
@svtbird46 have you got it to the track? what did you run? IN my stock G8 GT i was able to get a 13.34@ 103. On all season tires. Cold weather and sticky track.
@Sublime570
The G8 is a smaller full-size car, the Taurus is a large, wide, heavy full-size car, and the Mustang is pony/muscle car which can be modded to achieve 9's on street tires. Different classes.
@Hyde232 It has a 5.0 emblem on the side...
@TheArfdog
im speaking of the ls3. the ls7 is a different story. but please tell me how one (1) LS3 intake 55mm valve covers more area than the mustangs two (2) 31mm intake valves?
62mm > 55mm
@stevensjustin87 no? the GTO is a completely different chassis, similar engines but completely different chassis
@JcTheKillaClown Just FYI that G8 does have the 6.2L LS3 in it since it's a GXP.
@redd7188 edmunds also only ran a 13.3. where motortrend had it at over 400 to wheels if remember right. And tehy ran a 12.88. Diff dynos, diff air, temps. One one dyno i put 389 to the wheels and with auto that is 460ish to wheels with diff dyno diff day i only put 357. then on another dyno i put 371hp to the wheels which is right with others with same mods i have.
I love the wheels on that 5.0! It looks good under that beautiful blue!
Hi to guys at Livernois, nice video this is Joe Williams from Bold Endures.
@LivernoisMotorsports what body kit did the mustang have ?
@LivernoisMotorsports
after looking at teh SHO awhile ago they are really nice...and like the G8s true sleepers...looks like the G8 walking both them..haha seen your post about G8..How you think a bolt on G8 compares to teh stang...LTs, exhaust, tune, CAI, UDP,
yeah i thought so too but i drove both and just bought a 2010 sho. Happy with the decision. same power as the G8 GT but many more interior features to enjoy when not running the hell out of it.
I live 5 minutes away from that road. Its not closed, but its not used often, but its a bad ass little stretch for cars to have fun at. :)
@LivernoisMotorsports Has there been any reliability issues with the ecoboost with the tune on it? The engine will be stressed a bit more than normal. I ask bc I currently have a 05 F150 extended cab 6.5' bed and after adding about 100 tq by using comp cams spr and porting the heads, ect. and the transmission did not last long and it burns through spark plugs (it isnt running lean). Even though the engine can run higher now, the cooling system hates it, hoses keep failing. 0-60 @ 5.2 sec
The 5.0 was tuned today.
415 rwhp 399 rwtq
Livernois Motorsports has the video on their channel.
@LordSamuelJ Yes, we do actually. The SHO and G8 are ours
@miguelsanchss nah the 6.0 in the GT is the L76 from the GM trucks like the Avalanche and the Suburban. Needs the torque for the G8's 4,000 lbs. 361hp, 385ft. tq
@LivernoisMotorsports So how much power does a SHO need to put down to keep up like that?
@xLuckydemonx no sandbagging, i was trying not to spin the tires like crazy
Micheal Williams right because the 15K in performance parts for the mustang helped it out.
Three absolutely amazing machines right here! Awesome!!
@rmiles01 Right you are. The LS7 might have fewer valves, but the valves are big and GM did their fluid dynamics homework. I'm sure the Ford flows just as well, maybe more, but GM chose much bigger displacement and bigger ports, so it's going to flow more.
Not trying to piss on the Ford motor, but it's hard to get that much power from 5 liters, NA. It would have to rev to 7800 (with a valvetrain made of unicorn horns) to make 500 whp.
@aZX14blurr
For one the 5.0 has done a 12.7 in the 1/4 and with a tune and slicks has gone into the upper 11s. Also are you calling 13 slow?
the G8 is da bomb and when i was in Bahrain and saw the Chevy Caprice (that's what it was there even before Pontiac picked it up from the Australian Holden) I said a prayer each time i saw it hoping it would come to the states. Well it did and Pontiac died but my thoughts were that it would make a hot ass Impala but I'm good with a cooler name - JUST BRING BACK THIS AWESOME RIDE!!!! Other than that those two Fords would look good paired up in any American driveway. Ford is doing big things.
@fng0101 isnt the G8 an australian product though?
@LivernoisMotorsports So did the SHO win in the quartar?
was the g8 in the video a car that you tuned
I have a 96 ford thunderbird v6 with an Msd Coil, muffler delete, and oversized bearings for the crank, new rods and polished pistons. How does the tuning process work? And i assume its a Dyno tune
+George Farah Indeed it would be a dyno tune for this, we would not have a remote tuning option to cover that vehicle.
+Livernois Motorsports well the equivalent vehicle would be a mustang, would there be anything custom
+George Farah Well, similar, but not necessarily equivalent. there are unique aspects of both vehicles and their corresponding calibrations. With that being said, we would only be able to do it in house, not remotely.
Can't seem to get your guys' website to come up. Are you still around?
Can't beat AWD for launches on the street. Nice work guys.
That's awesome, I want an SHO now! I love my focus ST too.
+Chris Furlong well, we do plenty for those too ;)
@Motorchevytoyota not to Australia just the dealer in Australia.Explain why the mustang in more popular then?
Was that the sound of the G8 at the end?
@spamcans05 they are from Roush they came with the Fascia kit.