M1000RR OR S1000RR? Which One Should You Buy?!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 มิ.ย. 2024
- Is the BMW S1000RR overall better than the M1000RR?
With the M1000RR being almost twice the price, we think it may be!
BMW has a following for a reason. These bikes have the power, the looks, and the premium feel to them, along with creature comforts that many appreciate. The M badge also has built up a reputation in the automotive world. But if we're honest. The M1000RR is lacking a little punch to really set it apart from the S1000RR.
Watch the entire video to hear our full unfiltered thoughts on which of the two we would choose, and what we would buy with our own money!
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00:00 Intro!
00:27 The BMW M1000RR
01:01 The BMW S1000RR
01:55 The Price
02:10 Different bodywork
02:40 Different suspension
03:12 Different brakes
03:43 Is the engine really different?
04:48 The stock exhaust system
05:48 The intangibles
07:20 So what would I choose?
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Are you guys surprised with the choice? What would be your pick?!
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I will go for M1000rr
How do you get this livery on the new S1000RR? On the BMW Homepage you can‘t choose this livery
The Triumph Speed Triple 1200 RR is not selling well so there's few around locally for really good prices.
I'd buy that.
Fit ABM clip on raiser kit for a bit of comfort.
Then I would have a stunning looking, light bike with all the electric goodies and comfort for way less money.
Not many of those around so it would feel more special as well.
Don't care if it is down on power a bit since speed is 80% rider and going 180mph on a straight high way isn't all that exiting to me anymore.
Nice ultimate riding machine
Considering how BMW treated you, I wouldn’t touch either now.
Yep
Yeah cause it's was totally bmws fault, that they tuned it, removed the restrictions, and dyno it before the break in, that they did other power adders, that they bumped up the rev limiter....🤦 no manufacturer of any bike or car would pay for that. And lots of it was posted on TH-cam for everyone including bmw to see. They knew If they did cover it then that would make many people think, "hey they cover it for motomillion I guess I can bump the Rev limiter and over Rev it and not break it in properly. They took care of calimoto and had his bike back to him with in 2 weeks because he followed their warranty rules! Every manufacturer has standards to follow...
@natecote1971 bro the main caps on the connecting rod came loose. That was happening 100% regardless of what they did. When I rebuild a new engine for someone, know how I break it in? I heat cycle it 3 or 4 times, then I go out and give it the beans. No babying the engine. If something let's loose, it will happen to me. Not the customer.
Plus there are multiple documented cases of the connecting rod main caps coming loose on those bikes. Manny didn't do anything wrong.
@natecote1971 spot on. I got the stage 1 bt on my 23 s1k, didn't touch my stock rev limiter though. They said that alone will void a warranty claim.
Unfortunately rules are rules.
Definitely agree with you, Mani, As an owner of a 21 M1000 RR I definitely got caught up in the hype when the bike came out, but the S 1000 RR is more than capable and the price difference leaves a lot of money on the table for track days tires etc....
I mean in '21 the price of M was not as absurd as it is now.
Just pop some Michelin tires on it on your own and they will last at least 5 times more than the stock tires. 🤪
thanks for all this information, great video like ever ✌
Glad you enjoyed!
Thank you my persian bro, im deciding between these two and this video really helped! I love race bikes and benn riding RR my whole life but the naked one is also really good and comfortable! I might rewatch the video again! ❤
100% right, I got the most base version s1000rr and upgrade it. Also same with Ducati Panigale v2. Got the basic version no limited edition, upgrade it and make it your own. V4S and V4, I choose V4 just because so many easy things you can do for much cheaper with quality components and considering we really don't need everything else that are on the bike as is in it's upgraded form from the company.
The V2 bayliss actually makes sense with the Ohlins upgrade it gets. Adding the Ohlins itself to the V2 will bring it to Bayliss price.
What do you mean by upgraded it? Like a tune, etc.?
Thank you for your great articulattion so that even a non-native can enjoy the explanations 👍
My pleasure!
This was a GREAT comparison topic video! All the facts laid out there. The S1000 is a no-brainer.
Thank you, glad you liked the video!
Thank you as always for making these videos. I love your content and customer service. I will say though, there are a few things that may not necessarily be addressed about the 2024 S1000RR in this video. I have the 2024 M package with every conceivable box clicked. My bike came with:
1. Titanium Akrapovic Headers, as well as the muffler. I believe this is specific to the race package when ordering the S1000RR but it's been a while since I ordered it.
2. The 2024 S1000RR will come with carbon fiber wheels (when the package is ordered) and the M1000RR now comes with forged.
3. I believe the cylinder heads are the same
4. It comes stock with a 46 tooth rear sprocket, just like the M1000RR. It use to come with the 45 tooth. Not saying this is good or bad, just a similarity. Both come with the M Endurance chain. as well.
I actually had the choice between the two bikes and went wit the S1000RR. To me it's a better value for riding on the roads, while still providing track level performance that exceeds 99% of our abilities. You can't beat the electronic suspension on any bike set up. Manual setups are great for a track but not as conducive to changing road conditions. I will tell you I haven't seen one with all the bells and whistles go for 26k.
The M1000RR comes with Carbon Wheels, don't let the dealers fool you. It was a mistake on BMW's end when they sent them all with Forged wheels.
I bought BOTH of them
2020 S1000 RR M Package &
2023 M1000 RR added Carbon Fiber, Full Exhaust and Brentuned them.
Both bikes are AWESOME to say the least.
However the 23 M1000 RR Kicks just a bit harder💪🏾👍🏾
Completely agree. I purchased my 2024 back in February and just got the breakin completed and I love that thing. I can’t wait to get the bren tune n headers but this is an easy answer.
Happy riding!
I was in between both bikes but I got the 24 s1000rr full carbon kit full titanium akropovich exhaust and I absolutely love it ❤.
Good choice! Congratulations.
Still waiting for 2024 fire blade sp
So are we :)
That M1000RR will win the WSBK with Toprak ❤😊
The season just started, let's see where it leads us.
Fortunate to have had the opportunity to own both of these and I agree with you Mani 100%
After this video, seriously thinking of building base bike up!
THIS VIDEO ID THE GOAT THE GOATTT this is what i wanted cause im.thinking to buy it
I’m picking up a 2024 s1000rr m package with forged wheels and it’s comes with adjustable rear sets for $500 under msrp.
As a Ducati Fan boy and owning my Streetfighter SP2 that I still own. I gave in and bought a 2024 BMW S1000RR recently. I love the features and tech on this bike and got all the packages that I could carbon billet endurance chain etc with the M forged wheels as the carbon wheels to me are too risky for the street although I have my SF to worry about. I am waiting for that full titanium Arrow exhaust!! hint hint.. ;) and please let us know about the details on the full six carbon price and pictures! Thank you Mani!!
As soon as I have more information on the kit I will definitely make a video of it!
Seeing so many people having issues with bmw I’m all set!!!!!!!
Mani, it would be so great to build that base model S1000RR bike, with Ohlins, Brembo, etc stuff on your Channel.
We may have a project coming up!
CONGRATS GREAT REVIEW
Thank you!
S1000RR and customize it to your taste. I’ve been seeing a lot, and i mean A LOT of people having all sorts of problem with the M1000RR. For the price you’re paying for the M it is not worth the headache of having something break on you every other week. S1000rr
I just bought the s1000 RR M package I was wondering could I get the front break cooing covers and will they fit on my bike and what sorta fender elimination kit rear break light setup and swing arm bracket plate holder do u suggest…. I’m here in Philadelphia and I can’t get a good service place to work on my BMW…. I need help putting this together it would be easy if I had the my usual Kawi ZX10s but I’m stepping into this German field of things what do u suggest please comment back, I too wanna be an enthusiast.
Congrats! Give us a call and we would be more than happy to give you our recommendations.
I bought the S1000RR M Package with carbon wheels back in '21 and still happy with it. Can't find enough reasons to upgrade to a '23/'24RR or M1000RR. Looks maybe. But then again I have an H2 ('23) for beast mode😄
Right on!
M1000RR all day long 😊❤
I would get the s1000rr and then customize to my liking, which is what I did a year and a half ago. Best bike I've ever had
As long as they stay reliable, as a platform they are great!
Same thing I did. Picked up a 2020 with 1300 miles on it for 16k. Has the electronic suspension and forged wheels. Then started modding it to my liking. M1k is pretty sick, but I would never spend that kind of money on it.
Which one should you buy? Based on the state of the customer services department and the lack of warranty on broken in engines that go pop, none of them.
I should have heard you before Mani, I just bought 2024 M1000RR competition package.
just got 24 m1000rr and thats my first sportbike
I have a 24S1K so happy on the performance even tho not tune yet.
You have no idea what you are missing out on without a flash.
Planning to get a Tuner on site sir since i purchased majority of my items on your site 👍
I would only disagree with you saying that the M1000RR has an upgraded suspension. I've always read that the S1000RR' front suspension is more of an upgrade over the M's because of the fact that the M is the homologated model so they gave it the basic suspension so that changing over to a racing suspension is easier.
I would have to research this theory.
Awesome
Got the 23 S…. I’m on the fat side… M looks a bit wider, so imma try to grab this M tomorrow. lol
I just bought a new motorcycle this year. I went with the S1000RR just because of the looks. I prefer the look of the S1000RR vs the M1000RR.
I would love to liked the M1000RR as I own M cars. But I really like the look of the S1000RR with the M package.
The new M1000RR does have divisive looks! We weren't sure about it based on photos. But it grew on us after seeing it in person
@@Motomillionyeah the M1000 looks are nice
I am buying one soon but not sure if i should go completely base s1k or opt for one of the packages like the premium or m package. Closest dealer doesn’t have a completely base s1k but the price difference is substantial from 19k base to 26k premium package.
Also do the carbon wheels easily crack with normal street riding?
Completely base bike we think is the bang for the buck!
Go with the most basic one and then just customize it to your liking. Also, you shouldn't really have that problem with carbon wheels.
The ultimate riding machine❤
I would like u to do that bike built turning the s1000rr into a m1000rr fairings and the ohlins suspension etc
We have plans to do that!
@@Motomillion I will stay tuned for that for sure
Manny, I would love to see BMW come out with an s1000RR that has the single sided swing arm component like the ducati v4/v4s/v4R. Now, that would be wicked...
Ducati is doing away with the single sided swing arm.
@@Motomillion Why? Do they think a 'dual' swing arm is better engineering?
Moi j adore la 🏍 les 2 sont superbes
23-24 S1000RR have titanium internals too its a hybrid between the 20-21 k67 and k66 m1000rr
Does it? Are you sure?
I'd go for the S1000RR Sport (with forged wheels, electric suspension, floating discs, lithium battery, etc.). Then I'd add some of the carbon and billet bits. I'd stick the titanium akra headers on and get a remap. Lower the final drive to 16/46. Finally I'd put a Corsa Corta master cylinder on the bike. Should just about cover everything...
The 24 already comes with 17/46, you'd switch only the front out to 16?
@@Motomillion yeah, to give it a bit more zip down low. On the naked version I'm running 15/46 and it's a beast!
Thank you excellent side by side analysis. I think the folks that can afford either bike, are probably buying it to flex their wallet with friends and neighbors. I don't think they can even tap into 50% of either bike's true potential. If I were in this dilema. I agree 100% with you and choose the S1000RR.
I mean, the M becomes a choice for looks and exclusivity at that point, but the price does not make sense for someone to skip from an S to M.
I'll take my 2020 Aprilia rsv4 1100 Factory thank you very much. Just the sound alone is enough but the V4 engine is definitely the way to go.
Can't argue with this point of view either!
M1000rr isn't worth any where near what they get for them! Best to get a S1000rr base for 18,000, buy the M1000rr fairings, get ohlins suspension front and rear, full exhuast, tuning, brembo brakes and other goodies for the same price yet have a much better bike
That's what we're saying!
Do panigale base vs SP2/R
Definitely can. But the R has a completely different engine.
I'm with you Mani, S1000RR.
I went with a full spec s1000rr 23 model with M wheels instead of carbon as the roads here would destroy them. The slide control is worth a mention too as a capable rider could benefit on the track but honestly it will never be used by me.
True, slide control is also worth a mention.
I just wish I could get an M version with the electronic suspension. I know you can buy a S model and get the carbon and stuff to make it look similar but the M being wider for bigger guys and having better internals is the main reason I’d want an M.
Wider only on fairings, not on the seating unit.
I couldn't be happier with the route I took. Went RR in red, akra full system, added carbon and then chose dynamic package + M chain & TPM from factory. I get all the fancy tech and comforts while saving carbon rim money for the fun mods.
The red is definitely a looker!
One persons money isn't the same as another persons money. Buy what makes you happy! Dont get caught up with what another man/woman would buy. Yes, it's unfortunate what happened to mani's and a few others' bikes, but you pay to play. I just bought a 22 m1000rr sao paulo for 33k and couldn't be happier as I've wanted a bmw m or s bike for over 10 yrs.
How is the oil consumption of your bike?
I've only rode about 200 miles since the first service with no issues. My dealer did the break-in at about 620 miles. I watch all ur vids and am def keeping an eye on the oil consumption and heeding ur warnings. Keep up the great work u are doing for the motorcycle community, man!!!
I had a 23 S1000RR traded for the 24 M1000RR. M1000RR is king. Mani knows this. He is mad because Pecco didn’t win COTA.
H2 is king
Same with Ducati, V4 Base vs an R gets you 95% there. The extra 20k can load that bike up with an exhaust, tires, wheels, clip ons, rear sets, track days, training, tires, warmers, stands, protection, annnnnnd a couple services. Or buy another bike an RSV4 and have the best of both worlds.
The Base and R have a completely different engine on the Panigale V4, it is way more of a difference, but I can make this video as well to talk about it.
S1K all day..
I would buy an s1000rr it's cheaper. Besides the m1000rr has been having issues lately
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I think I like my 2014 HP4
Such a cool bike!
Neither!!!!!!!!.. btw, if one was given to me, I would sell asap!
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Is than fastlane m1000rr or
Is it 350b m1000rr
Honda Fireblade RRR
That’s exactly why I went with the 23’ S1000rr but unfortunately even that bike is having major problems and it lives at the dealership
So sorry to hear this. What problems have you had so far?
@@Motomillion I’m having a coolant leak, and a clutch failure ..
Went in for a water pump replacement took them a month to get the part and work on it …
But they found another issue is that pieces of metal shavings from the clutch in my bellyban…
They opened the clutch and found some broken plats which they never seen before and even said I might need a new engine….
I called them today and they said well good news u only need a new clutch kit everything els is fine
Waiting on parts from Germany gunna take another 4 weeks at least
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23-24 S1000RR have the crackles with no tune too
The M has it very different compared to the S.
The S1K. The M1K are having too many issues this year, it’s ridiculous
I guess we were not the only ones.
@@Motomillion I’m a huge fan I just order multiple parts from your website for my S1K 24’ thank you. I’ll be doing more purchases
yes s1000r
YeS1000RR ? (:
Mani got screwed because BMW was looking for Toprak’s salary.
Nope I’d have the Aprilia RSV4 all day long ❤
Aprilia is a great choice as long as there is a good dealer network near you!
Have fun in slow traffic- overheats!
Put me on those bikes. I'll show you a difference in lap times 😜
I have s1000rr stage 2 but the standard 2023 M1000rr Competition is faster 9000rpm and above. 😢😂
Not too sure about that being a measure-able difference.
I would opt for the model that doesn’t self destruct. Is that optional now? 😂
I think it is luck of the draw.
You’re a piece of work
I bought a S1000RR BASE in my country for $39000
That is insane!
I will buy the "S" because the bank don,t want to let me buy the "M" 😅🤣🔥🔥🔥✌
You aren't missing out much not getting the M.
My biggest regret is buying one, even my rsv4 is more reliable
If u wanna spend 25k...buy the blade or the ape...if u wanna spend 40k...buy the duc. Simple😊
The overheating ape? Hahaha
Both valid arguments!
Both run too hot and one overheats - enjoy
Mani I am
Not average. I am great and amazing.
S1000rr better for street
We think so too!
@@Motomillion like your videos and your tasteful mods to the bikes,keep up the hard work
s1000rr and fix all the weak links, dive into the engine and head work,stainless steel exhaust/ecu tune, forged wheels and not carbon, ohlins up grades, revalving, brembo upgrades with brembo masters. body work? not really, i don't race on tracks only ride canyons. real world riding is way different than tracks that have no rocks, no wild animals and no rain/snow/mudslides
Neither because both engines will blow up at 400 miles! BMW is the least reliable manufacturer out there
And i’m sure you know that lol
The way this BMWs breaks down lately... I wouldn't touch either one of them... Ducati has come to be more reliable than BMW...
None of them as they are mjdget bikes too small for taller people
I bought a new 2022 S100RR and sold it after 6000km... BMW never ever again!!!
Why not? What happened?
@@TheBurtle005 recalls, problems with the brakes, really crap oem suspension, vibratory, engine warnings with cold starts...
It seems like BMW bashing to me. BMW messed up when they didn’t replace his engine under warranty.
This review should have been made at Miami F1 suite fundraiser. This video is rigged.
Both are over priced and unreliable
I know there may be a lot who agree with this opinion.
Sounds like you can’t afford either one