We have another XXT coming to the channel. I filmed it on Phils track and something bad happened…. Needless to say, waiting for the weather to get better and Harry’s track to open and get more video footage of it in action.
Vintage Losi cars are very stylish and drive great. One thing i really like is the shocks are easier to rebuild than Team Associated. You just buy the cartridge and screw them right in. I think they still make them too which is good for us collectors.
I had a JR-XT back in the day that I converted to the LXT with the conversion kit Losi sold. Was a super great deal for back then. Those were the best days in RC cars!
That Losi family of trucks had me drooling back in the day. I wanted a Jrxt sooooooo bad. Just seeing that vintage XXT is eye candy. You look happy holding it Bro. And that footage is great too. Thanks for bringing us back yet again.
I still have my LXT with the XX transmission I also still have the wheels with inserts the box and the instruction manual! What a great time as a kid! Somehow I’ve saved it over the years and never got rid of it!….
I’ve got one of those.....bought the kit brand new back in the 90’s, it was my first REAL r/c. a few years ago found all Team Losi parts on eBay needed to renew it, now it’s a shelf queen! 😉
My first real rc truck was my Losi XXT which I got in 1995 and had converted to a XXT Cr Graphite Plus over the years of using it, then 10 or so years ago I went through all my spares and built up another XXT using my original parts. I’m glad I held onto them as they both are sentimental to me
I love these old Losi’s. I don’t quite remember these ones, mabey I was a bit too young or not in the hobby quite yet. But I do remember wanting the xxxT so bad when they came out. And the Matt Francis edition. And I did actually get the blue spec xxxt. Remember those with the blue groove tires coloured blue for stock spec class. I wish I kept it. I’m on the hunt for a xxt or xxxt. Just to drive around a bit lightly here and there. And to have on the shelf!
Ya know........ I saw a video on this channel....explaining as to all the the "hard work" that you boys have to do in order to run a single race night..... but by the background shots in this video, it looks to me like ol' Harry "Easy Pickins" Dods has got the little woman doing all the track's maintenance these days.......WHAT GIVES, man?! lol
Haha nah she loves to plant and weed i dont weed at all but i help plant and pick out the garden flowers. But i mean who is gunna drive the cars if ari is filming 🤷♂️. Sometimes i have to make sacrifices and stop yard work to help bring all the nice people some content to enjoy haha.
The Hydra-drive had the advantage of being able to smooth out power delivery on really rough tracks at the expense of adding quite a bit of driveline rotational inertia. It acted somewhat like a torque converter in a conventional automatic transmission, spinning a bladed "turbine" inside of a tight-fitting, liquid filled housing. The shear strength of the fluid could be changed (higher weight fluid) to make it slip less or more (lighter fluid). Smoother, well-groomed tracks didn't really favor its use, however. Neat option part to have, regardless.
thanks for the info. So if you had a XXT with the hydra drive sytem, would you be able to take it off? Then I would have to source a slipper clutch for it or was there a slipper clutch plus the hydra drive with it?
@@RCRetro - Ari, Good question that I can only partially answer; IF I recall correctly, there WAS a slipper with the original Hydra-drive setup (somewhat redundant if you ask me), but I can't remember if there was a different top shaft for slipper-only setups or not. I DO believe there was a special spur gear that you had to use with the unit, so changing ratios was a bit more problematic and costly. There's got to be a bunch of Losi nerds out there who can be tapped for the definitive answer about this. Heck, you might be able to get some info from Gil Jr. on the subject. Good luck.
@@irritablearchitect I'm a Losi nerd! lol Yes, you could run either hydra-drive or not, in stock form. If the track was ultra-smooth (like in today's "offroad" world), then you would run the basic slipper, bc you'd have less rotational mass and less power loss. IF, HOWEVER, the track was a genuine offroad situation, as was typical in those days (i.e. washed out and rutted straights with grooves in the turns), then the Losi's with the hydra-drive KILLED everything else. Schumacher even came out with the "viscous drive" as a competing system. Even the AE drivers ran HD's on their RC10's - as you can see in the IFMAR 93 World's! The advantage of the hydra-drive came from the ability to not spin out in loose dirt. Right now you're thinking "duh....a slipper clutch is for that too", BUT the HD was like magic! It was like driving a full-size car with an automatic trans, in that you had so much forgiveness in the throttle. It would kind of spool-up under throttle and the car/truck was WAY less twitchy. REMEMBER...in those days, the tracks were very rough and loose/loamy.....and freakin' awesome imo. A great example of the HD's advantage can be seen on videos from the IFMAR Worlds from 1991, when Kyle Reed ran one of the first HD cars on a ProSE/XX hybrid. Every time the cars enter the washboard section of that very rough Detroit track, you can see Reed easy catch Masami's RC10/Stealth. That was the second part of the "magic" of the HD - you got forgiveness, or a kind of cushioning, when in a bumpy section, or during a braking section, that might otherwise tend to cause you to spin out or get kicked sideways from the rear tires locking up.
@@bigpapapump8418 - Thanks! That's what I remember about the Hydra-drive, they were killers on the rough, loose and bumpy tracks...REAL off-road racing! We both must be OLD to have remembered this stuff! Hahahahahahaha!!!
@@irritablearchitect Yeah, it's hard for me to believe just how long ago that was. But I tell you, and it is not just "good ol days" talk.... Something happened to RC around the millennium....it just isn't the same as it was back in the 90's. It's not as ....FUN... as it was. Maybe it's too serious now...I don;t know. I do know that the big-gun "offroad" drivers of today can't hack it on legit offroad tracks. They whine when they even go to an outdoor track. lol I mean CARPET?!?! REALLY!??
I had a hydra drive for my xx and xxt. Was not good for stock racing since it added a ton of rotating mass. For mod racing it was money on really rough outdoor tracks but on smoother indoor tracks it really wasn’t needed.
Saw this question you had posted to another hydra drive user. The system used both the slipper and hydra drive. You could pop off the hydra drive and just replace the slipper spring and thrust washer assembly from what I remember. The slipper spring on the hydra drive unit was shorter due to the exposed length of the top shaft when the hydra drive was keyed to the spur gear.
Thank you very much! You solved a mystery for me. I bought a much abused RC10 Graphite a few weeks ago with a set of those wheels on it.. Same color even. I didn't know what they came from. Mine are pretty beat up and two of the clear inserts are missing. Now I know!!
You can make the wheel covers with a wheel with no tire, a heat gun, and a bolt that is the axle diameter. not really easy but doable. Thats how we did it back in the day of we wanted wheel covers (:
Hello! I'm a Japanese person living in Japan. I love losi and own XX-CR XX-TCR XX-4 XX-4WE. However, the parts and body are not available. TAMIYA and KYOSHO are easily available. We hope for connections that transcend borders!
Sparkle sparkle bart Simpson voice.. love the paint job could u explain the hydra drive feature wowza now I know something about the wheels I never new let's talk vintage losi I'm all ears lol are you filming the pro series so many x's now time for a vintage x ray
If I were to get my hands on a LOSI with the Hydra Drive, I'll probably go a little bit more in depth but basically is very similar to a slipper clutch. Instead of tightening the nut or loosening the nut to set your RC to the various track conditions, the hydra drive is a clam shell filled with oil. To adjust it, you need to add different weight oil. I heard it was a pain to adjust because of that. It seems losi didn't keep it around to long. It started with the XX series and stoped with the XX series also. Then they went back to the the slipper clutch for the XXX series.
there are so many options... Lipo or Nimh... Here is a Lipo www.amainhobbies.com/protek-rc-2s-100c-sigraphene-hv-lipo-stick-pack-tcs-battery-7.6v-5000mah-ptk-5129-19/p942346 Here is Nimh www.amainhobbies.com/ecopower-6cell-nimh-stick-pack-battery-w-tstyle-connector-7.2v-4200mah-ecp-5015/p697568
I remember back in the 90s local hobby guys would tell me the Lodi was best, got rid of my rc10 and my blue eagle ls 2, and got the losi XX and the Losi Lxt. It was crap, they both just broke to easily compare to what I had
I used to have one of these! I had a green machine 2 motor in it. SO much fun. What a throwback it is seeing this
We have another XXT coming to the channel. I filmed it on Phils track and something bad happened…. Needless to say, waiting for the weather to get better and Harry’s track to open and get more video footage of it in action.
Vintage Losi cars are very stylish and drive great. One thing i really like is the shocks are easier to rebuild than Team Associated. You just buy the cartridge and screw them right in. I think they still make them too which is good for us collectors.
did not know that. Thanks for sharing. I'm trying to source a a few vintage LOSI's . All this knowledge really helps. thanks again.
Bad ass paint job. 2 thumbs up 👍
Agreed! Thanks for the comment.
Thanks scott
I had a JR-XT back in the day that I converted to the LXT with the conversion kit Losi sold. Was a super great deal for back then. Those were the best days in RC cars!
My first rx car/truggy I bought with my own money I earned working on the local golf course. Cool to see it run again
That Losi family of trucks had me drooling back in the day. I wanted a Jrxt sooooooo bad. Just seeing that vintage XXT is eye candy. You look happy holding it Bro. And that footage is great too. Thanks for bringing us back yet again.
its all about nostalgia lol.... glad you like the video.
Hope not too happy its not his 🤦♂️
I still have my LXT with the XX transmission I also still have the wheels with inserts the box and the instruction manual! What a great time as a kid! Somehow I’ve saved it over the years and never got rid of it!….
What a beauty, colours are spot on for that truck and it runs good.
Thanks mattias rc
What a great truck I used to race one back in the day and they still run good to this day and time!
Harry's wife is always working on the yard while you guys are playing with your toys :)
You see that as well hahaha
LOL... she is very supportove to the RC cause....
I’ve got one of those.....bought the kit brand new back in the 90’s, it was my first REAL r/c.
a few years ago found all Team Losi parts on eBay needed to renew it, now it’s a shelf queen! 😉
Super Cool! I built a JrXT IN 1990. Loved that truck! I wish I still had it. ✌🏻
That was my first rc truck.I got mine in 1991
My first real rc truck was my Losi XXT which I got in 1995 and had converted to a XXT Cr Graphite Plus over the years of using it, then 10 or so years ago I went through all my spares and built up another XXT using my original parts. I’m glad I held onto them as they both are sentimental to me
Nice!
I love these old Losi’s. I don’t quite remember these ones, mabey I was a bit too young or not in the hobby quite yet. But I do remember wanting the xxxT so bad when they came out. And the Matt Francis edition. And I did actually get the blue spec xxxt. Remember those with the blue groove tires coloured blue for stock spec class. I wish I kept it. I’m on the hunt for a xxt or xxxt. Just to drive around a bit lightly here and there. And to have on the shelf!
Was waiting up for this
Well I hope it was worth it the wait.
Yep great video....id would have been better if it was steve and not you talking
@@tallguygaming409 stupid puppet
Ya know........ I saw a video on this channel....explaining as to all the the "hard work" that you boys have to do in order to run a single race night..... but by the background shots in this video, it looks to me like ol' Harry "Easy Pickins" Dods has got the little woman doing all the track's maintenance these days.......WHAT GIVES, man?! lol
Haha nah she loves to plant and weed i dont weed at all but i help plant and pick out the garden flowers. But i mean who is gunna drive the cars if ari is filming 🤷♂️. Sometimes i have to make sacrifices and stop yard work to help bring all the nice people some content to enjoy haha.
The Hydra-drive had the advantage of being able to smooth out power delivery on really rough tracks at the expense of adding quite a bit of driveline rotational inertia. It acted somewhat like a torque converter in a conventional automatic transmission, spinning a bladed "turbine" inside of a tight-fitting, liquid filled housing. The shear strength of the fluid could be changed (higher weight fluid) to make it slip less or more (lighter fluid).
Smoother, well-groomed tracks didn't really favor its use, however. Neat option part to have, regardless.
thanks for the info. So if you had a XXT with the hydra drive sytem, would you be able to take it off? Then I would have to source a slipper clutch for it or was there a slipper clutch plus the hydra drive with it?
@@RCRetro - Ari, Good question that I can only partially answer; IF I recall correctly, there WAS a slipper with the original Hydra-drive setup (somewhat redundant if you ask me), but I can't remember if there was a different top shaft for slipper-only setups or not. I DO believe there was a special spur gear that you had to use with the unit, so changing ratios was a bit more problematic and costly.
There's got to be a bunch of Losi nerds out there who can be tapped for the definitive answer about this. Heck, you might be able to get some info from Gil Jr. on the subject.
Good luck.
@@irritablearchitect I'm a Losi nerd! lol Yes, you could run either hydra-drive or not, in stock form. If the track was ultra-smooth (like in today's "offroad" world), then you would run the basic slipper, bc you'd have less rotational mass and less power loss. IF, HOWEVER, the track was a genuine offroad situation, as was typical in those days (i.e. washed out and rutted straights with grooves in the turns), then the Losi's with the hydra-drive KILLED everything else. Schumacher even came out with the "viscous drive" as a competing system. Even the AE drivers ran HD's on their RC10's - as you can see in the IFMAR 93 World's! The advantage of the hydra-drive came from the ability to not spin out in loose dirt. Right now you're thinking "duh....a slipper clutch is for that too", BUT the HD was like magic! It was like driving a full-size car with an automatic trans, in that you had so much forgiveness in the throttle. It would kind of spool-up under throttle and the car/truck was WAY less twitchy. REMEMBER...in those days, the tracks were very rough and loose/loamy.....and freakin' awesome imo. A great example of the HD's advantage can be seen on videos from the IFMAR Worlds from 1991, when Kyle Reed ran one of the first HD cars on a ProSE/XX hybrid. Every time the cars enter the washboard section of that very rough Detroit track, you can see Reed easy catch Masami's RC10/Stealth. That was the second part of the "magic" of the HD - you got forgiveness, or a kind of cushioning, when in a bumpy section, or during a braking section, that might otherwise tend to cause you to spin out or get kicked sideways from the rear tires locking up.
@@bigpapapump8418 - Thanks! That's what I remember about the Hydra-drive, they were killers on the rough, loose and bumpy tracks...REAL off-road racing! We both must be OLD to have remembered this stuff! Hahahahahahaha!!!
@@irritablearchitect Yeah, it's hard for me to believe just how long ago that was. But I tell you, and it is not just "good ol days" talk.... Something happened to RC around the millennium....it just isn't the same as it was back in the 90's. It's not as ....FUN... as it was. Maybe it's too serious now...I don;t know. I do know that the big-gun "offroad" drivers of today can't hack it on legit offroad tracks. They whine when they even go to an outdoor track. lol I mean CARPET?!?! REALLY!??
That’s awesome!
That is a great looking truck.
thanks. Love the SPARKLES...
Jw33 thanks buddy
Very nice...Looks consistent too. 👍
It was it drives great
I had a hydra drive for my xx and xxt. Was not good for stock racing since it added a ton of rotating mass. For mod racing it was money on really rough outdoor tracks but on smoother indoor tracks it really wasn’t needed.
Thanks for sharing that.
Saw this question you had posted to another hydra drive user. The system used both the slipper and hydra drive. You could pop off the hydra drive and just replace the slipper spring and thrust washer assembly from what I remember. The slipper spring on the hydra drive unit was shorter due to the exposed length of the top shaft when the hydra drive was keyed to the spur gear.
To add, TBG does now reproduce the clear lexan wheel inserts for both the XXT and the LXT :)
Good to know
Thank you very much! You solved a mystery for me. I bought a much abused RC10 Graphite a few weeks ago with a set of those wheels on it.. Same color even. I didn't know what they came from. Mine are pretty beat up and two of the clear inserts are missing. Now I know!!
Fucking awesome
Tanx
I got my nieces a pink stampede and a blue skully stampede truck. My nephew has a gravedigger pede and a custom painted rere blackfoot
Good video loved the back story about rims. Looks really good on the track nice job
You can make the wheel covers with a wheel with no tire, a heat gun, and a bolt that is the axle diameter. not really easy but doable. Thats how we did it back in the day of we wanted wheel covers (:
Hello! I'm a Japanese person living in Japan. I love losi and own XX-CR XX-TCR XX-4 XX-4WE. However, the parts and body are not available. TAMIYA and KYOSHO are easily available. We hope for connections that transcend borders!
I've got 2 of these going up for sale soon. Not sure on prices. Only used maybe 12 times. They are complete with all electronics and radio.
Sparkle sparkle bart Simpson voice.. love the paint job could u explain the hydra drive feature wowza now I know something about the wheels I never new let's talk vintage losi I'm all ears lol are you filming the pro series so many x's now time for a vintage x ray
If I were to get my hands on a LOSI with the Hydra Drive, I'll probably go a little bit more in depth but basically is very similar to a slipper clutch. Instead of tightening the nut or loosening the nut to set your RC to the various track conditions, the hydra drive is a clam shell filled with oil. To adjust it, you need to add different weight oil. I heard it was a pain to adjust because of that. It seems losi didn't keep it around to long. It started with the XX series and stoped with the XX series also. Then they went back to the the slipper clutch for the XXX series.
Haha shoulda made ari wear a earing
Very nice team losi rc but in my place thats very expensive 😭
My first hobby quality RC! Bought it to start racing and they immediately cancelled the class at the track I bought it.
Worth $50? Being offered a running one for that. In great condition too! Dude kept it on a stand & all.
Great deal
My step dad sold me his old rc stuff an I revived the xxt but blew out the ball diff. Anyone know where I could get another one?
Can anyone help me find a battery for this car? I’m trying to get my truck rolling again and can’t find any info
there are so many options... Lipo or Nimh...
Here is a Lipo
www.amainhobbies.com/protek-rc-2s-100c-sigraphene-hv-lipo-stick-pack-tcs-battery-7.6v-5000mah-ptk-5129-19/p942346
Here is Nimh
www.amainhobbies.com/ecopower-6cell-nimh-stick-pack-battery-w-tstyle-connector-7.2v-4200mah-ecp-5015/p697568
I have one those xxxt graphite plus were trying to sell on Facebook for 125
Put it up on rc retro facebook
Lame' is pronounced la-MAY
I remember back in the 90s local hobby guys would tell me the Lodi was best, got rid of my rc10 and my blue eagle ls 2, and got the losi XX and the Losi Lxt. It was crap, they both just broke to easily compare to what I had
Why not feature the xxx xxxt xxxs xxx4 Losi
Wheres your xxx sct????
@@tallguygaming409 don’t have one yet or the xxxsrb
Scb
Xxx nt
Joe they all sound like they will fall apart after about 1 lap haha. We still waiting on that mud blaster i painted for ya 😡