Absolutely superb video presentation, thanks. Concise, descriptive, accurate and complete analysis of the two vehicles. Greatly appreciated. You have anticipated all of my questions and concerns. One of your best videos.
@@ArtIrwin The R1S is great for a date or a camping trip. Both vehicles are tech loaded but the R1S edges out the X in terms of interior tech but autopilot is better on the Tesla.
Too focused on the noise differences. Was curious on ride comfort, space in second and 3rd rows. Also speed/power, responsiveness and regenerative braking.
I agree. Especially if the audience is looking for their first EV. Coming from the gas-power supplied power vehicle they may not even notice the noise.
After watching both of your review videos, I’m convinced that the Model X and R1S aren’t direct competitors and they serve different customers. Adventure, off-road, hauling - R1S. People hauling, tech, comfort - Model X. In the Model X’s case, I think a closer competitor would be the EQS SUV or the iX. The R1S doesn’t have a direct competitor. Either way, we need more choices in the EV space and it’s great to see more options.
@@losequis7682 Just curious, what tech in Tesla does Rivian not have that is so important? From my perspecitve, the only thing in my Model X that I would absolutely miss going to Rivian is having the driver door close when I step on the brake. Can't think of much else.
its a myth that the people buying rivians will do any offroading or hauling in such an expensive vehicle, its capabilities fall behind a standard truck but it is a cool toy for those who can afford it.
I have a X Plaid and love it. I have done lots of long road trips and my choice of Teslas somewhat based on the supercharger network. It is totally painless to go on long road trips.
I like the Tesla Model X range, quietness and supercharger network, but that $30k price difference is a big deal. Plus Rivian gets the 7500 credit even before the new policy gets rolled out. it would be a very very hard decision.
Not for me! Rivian is the clear winner by miles for this dude... paying 30k more and having to deal with that terrible yoke makes it a non starter. Plus no Musk baggage.
Very nice vehicle. I am a Model Y owner but wish Rivian the greatest success. Competition like this is good for the EV industry and gives EV owners more choice. What’s the R1S range when towing 7,000 lbs though?
I don't like that you're playing down how noisy the model X is. If you drive around without music or whatever (like you were the Rivian) the model X is loud. So loud that anything over 40-ish MPH and you can't even use the car to talk on the phone.
Interesting about the noise. With the radio on no one would here it. Think you’re being a bit picky. I do own a 2022 Y Performance and am taking delivery of a second Tesla in a few weeks. We have a Model X arriving between December 15-January 19.
I thought for years about buying the Model X yet just couldn’t pull the trigger. I waited for the refresh yet don’t love the paint/build quality relative to the price and so decided on the Rivian R1S which I get in early 2023. In my test drive I really loved the quality, performance, and capabilities. Interior is super. I guess I’m more of a SUV guy. I’m sure there’ll be some hiccups yet the value is pretty ridiculously good for Rivian. Still want to Model Y for my wife :-). Just my 2 cents.
Rich rebuilds just took his R1s on a road trip… I recommend watching it if you want to road trip. Also consider the battery size vs. range. Translation - lots of time charging…
@@louis-philippemenard3841 X 7 seater has headrests on all 2nd row seats so you can safely seat them all there if you need to maximize storage. Middle seat headrest is a must. Child carseats/boosters compensate but if the kid outgrows the booster they will need a headrest in case of impact.
One major MAJOR benefit of rivian are framed doors. SO much better than frameless. Sound better when closing door, doesn’t need the window to slide up and down and no one’s pulling on the window when closing the door.
This is like comparing a 4 runner or other real suv to a minivan. Nothing wrong with each but there's a reason they are geared towards different people and needs. I pick up my R1T in two days. When I test drove it I loved the whine of the motors. Gave a more tactile feel. My M3P is almost too quiet. Just my opinion. To each his/her own
You do realize that Elon does not think that way. Not behind closed doors anyway. He is no different than any other mega rich business tycoon. He wants for his business what every business wants - total domination of the market place till they become a true monopoly. As usual throughout history, the only thing preventing that is a competitive market place and rules/ regulations that prevent the bigger fish from eating up the smaller ones.
I think that Tesla will be adding that top down view at some point.. they have the cameras and if they are removing sensors, it will make it so much easier to park. I rented a Polestar 2 with the top down and it's nice to have.. in the model Y, (my daily driver) I am used to the sensors, but could easily get rid of them with the top down view. I agree with your neighbor and Ian.. the sounds are most likely amplified because it is a big box back there. my Y makes more noise if I put the back seats down.. My old S had air shocks, and the would go up and down but made no noise at all.
It was the air compressor... there are two reasons... 1- the car is on auto height adjustment setting and the car kept on adjusting the height... 2- it is possible that one of the air suspension is leaking, the compress kept pumping air into it. For my car, I don't hear the noise on scenario 1... I think it is more like scenario 2.
Noise is subjective. I don’t believe the noise was that much of a difference for me to consider it consistently throughout the video, but I understand your point of view coming from a model X.
The Rivian's are beautiful. I love everything about them honestly. I bought my Tesla over all other EV options because of the infrastructure though. And it doesn't seem as though that's changing any time soon. Neat trucks, not practical for my use case because of the infrastructure, or lack thereof.
It's also worth noting, that the Rivian doesn't have any antiroll bars front or back , this is adjusted dynamically , this is good and bad. Good in that vehicle platform should remain flatter and more stable. Bad in that extra complexity is introduced into the system , that could give trouble down the road with unreliability, and maybe contribute to that noise , where suspension airbags have to empty a little bit and then fill a little bit keeping the compressor working alot.
@@pvman2 Once the big car companies get into the EV game Rivian and Lucid will not be able to compete......they will disappear like Hudson, Nash, and DeSoto did in the 1950's......and the cars they sold won't be worth scrap. Bad investments.
@@chadhaire1711 That doesn't exactly say why they are not great vehicles. Personally, I think Tesla is here to stay. I somewhat agree with you regarding the likes of Lucid and Faraday, but Rivian has good investors, decent manufacturing rate, and a contract with Amazon that will generate a significant revenue for a while. Let's wait and see.
@@chadhaire1711 The legacy makers are struggling mightily. It will still take them a few years to catch up, and only a few will make it. In the meantime, Rivian and Lucid have a very good chance to succeed as long as they perform well. Their products are AMAZING, both already offering performance that Tesla doesn’t, which is just incredible. But success as an auto company requires more than great product. We shall see.
@@carlosnorris352 I have no neighbors, so no that isn’t the point. I just like fun cars. I also have a 1989 Suzuki Sidekick that is my favorite. Doubt anyone is impressed with that…
It is difficult for me to understand why someone would choose the X over the R1S (especially with X being much more $$$$). The R1S seems to offer so much more versatility, room, capability,...... and it is a looker! The X is the least attractive tesla to me
Good review, thanks for posting. Sign me up for the Rivian. I'm a Tesla owner since 2016, currently I have a Model X Long Range with FSD. The only thing that Tesla has over other EVs that in my view is important is the charging network. I would trade my X for an R1S today if I could.
Kim Java, love this video. Ultimately which would you recommend ? I have a model y. Looking to get a 6-7 seater. Test drive the rivian r1s - felt like it’s a little noisy compared to my tesla. But also test drove the x, felt very similar to the y…
Rivian is winning me over every time i watch a review on it. I’m ready to move from my Ram pickup to a mid to large suv. This will make me go electric sooner than I’d imagined
Hertz rental convinced me to try a Model Y recently and I thought it had a surprising amount of road noise. I'd get an R1S if I had to buy an EV now though...because it is the most useful to me. I worry the most about the air suspension compressor... Gets used a lot and is always the problem on suspensions with it from other manufacturers.
I have a 2013 lexus LX 570, and about to sale it to get a R1s. I had to fix my air suspension after my SUV was out of warranty. $800 dollars after 8 years. All good. Eights years no oil change etc etc with rivian. I'm ok with that.
Your garage looks so clean! Where do you keep the bikes, skate boards, rip sticks, and scooters? Gotta get busy cleaning mine now. Good job for a rainy Saturday.
Thanks for a great video. The noise would be issue for me after driving EV's for 10 years (Leaf and Tesla's). I don't like the front styling...headlights do not have the streamline look. The X is much better in styling. Nice to have all the room of the Rivian. Charging is still a problem for everyone except the Supercharger network...not only numbers but reliability. I like the yoke but miss the horn in the middle. Still trying to get use to the turn signals without having to look down. It is especially difficult if you make a u-turn and then have to turn again. Overall the yoke is amazing to be able to see out the windshield.
To me the two most important issues are first is the company going to be around to get parts. Secondly I bought my vehicle for road trips. This eliminates CCS charging for dependable road trips.
With Rivian's larger battery now available how do the ranges compare with the two mfg's? Everything the Rivian does better is super important to me; everything the Tesla does better is no big deal. I think it's great that we're getting more choices, more competition and they're pushing each other to improve. I'm looking at the new Volvo models coming this summer, both of the Rivian's and the upcoming R2 will be a welcome addition.
I'm curious if Rivian will emphasize noise reduction, because early Tesla's had major noise issues with under the hood components that they had to eventually address in a similar fashion.
I like the noise in my R1T but I’m coming from a Ram and not another electric vehicle. I don’t miss the purr of my hemi quite as much when my new truck sounds like a space ship when I romp on it.
the lease on my current ice vehicle is up in spring of 2024 and I'm so excited for the choices that will be available by then. That's the goal right? Something for everyones taste!
My nephew, Liam, laying down the truth!! 😂 Really amazing video guys! You guys answered all my questions regarding the comparison of these two vehicles.
The compressor is inside the vehicle which would be harder to isolate, but give them a few years and I bet it will be solved. On a gas vehicle that compressor would be up near the motor. Again people keep calling the X and an SUV, but it's truly a CUV. If you look at what a sport utility vehicle started, Go to the original Jeep Wagoneer, the Suburbans. Those are SUVs. A CUV is based on a car chassis. The X is based on a car chassis Ala the Model S.
In order to make a fair and accurate-compare the Rivian Max battery to the X. For Gen 1 Rivians, the max battery range is over 400 miles vs 335 for the Tesla X.
“Not as many options” was propped as a benefit, but more options for charging or software capabilities is always, always better. It sounds like slang for “not as many features”
Go on then, trade the ability to drive anywhere for the roulette wheel that is public charging? Thats the bottom line 125,000 uk miles over 9 years never having to que or never having a duff charger. No mater how good the EV its useless for distance work without a dedicated charging infrastructure......case closed
Lexus LX 600 has dual tanks for it's available Active Height Control (AHC) system allows total travel of 5.1 inches to avoid the constant compressor activating. Good comparisons. Expert 3rd row reviews.
Lexus, need a large electric suv. Until then, no more more large lexus LX's for me. Electric is the way to go. Very little maintenance, tires, window shield wiper fluid and maybe something else.
Some drive times for my last "road trip" 2060 km to Germany and back again from this week: Actual Model Y: According to ABRP 20 hours - Actual time with traffic jams and accidents in Germany was 26 hours... Model X 2022 Plaid: 20:25 hours Rivian R1S 180 - hats the largest battery!: 21 hours Aptera Gemini 100kWh: 19:22 hours Model 3 LR 82 kWh: 19:25 hours - will be fun to compare it with the Aptera on real world road trips. Cybertruck Dual Motor: 23 hours Ford F150: 23 hours And just for the fun, with my Fiat 500E from 2021 it would take 26 hours. 😁😁😁
that noise is definitely the air compressor. its a design flaw - they didnt put enough sound sound and vibration dampening. its in the same location as the R1T but its not a big deal in that vehicle because it outside the cabin so its a miss by their design and testing. the sloshing noise might be water in the door. its a known issue it can collect down at the bottom and theres a drain plug to release it... probably another design flaw
11:00 absolutely!! Having the door closed by stepping on the break… I cannot give this up. I’m driving model x now and need to decide whether to switch to rivian. Does rivian have autopilot or no?
Informative, interesting and fun review! I might suggest putting a level on the floor of the vehicle since the whole point of the feature is to level the vehicle. Few body styles are perfectly parallel with the chassis... for styling sake the body lines may slope a little or a lot. Thank you for your video!
The Rivian is nice, but when you weigh in all the factors of their differences, I still choose the Model X. The only 7-seater SUV that’s closest to swaying me away from the Model X currently is the Volvo EX90.
model x all the way since i love the looks, tech, charging network, quietness, and the comfortability, it would be better for me since id do mostly road driving then offroading and if i even do any type of minor offroading the tesla would be good enough.
Rivian can definitely reduce noise by adding more sound insulation or noise cancelling speakers. You can also set the suspension to a specific ride height so the air compressor doesn't adjust as much. Check the review from EV and Chill.
A couple of things- the price difference you quote... is no longer valid- Rivian price for new buyers is about the same as the model X now. 2nd- they are really diffrent class of vehicles, though they are lumped together by govt and magazines- The model X (as well as the Model Y) are Crossovers, not true SUV's- they are the SUV made solely for road use with most of the utility of a SUV in that environment. Otherwise, good comparison over the course of your videos on this three-day trade.
If they get rid of the air suspension and just put normal springs under it, the compressor noise complaint would go away. It's a shame that a feature they spent millions to include and drives up the customer price is something that hurts the package.
I agree with your friend a open back like in the Rivian or SUV or station wagon there is a sound noise but not in sedans and apparently not in a model X which is open , maybe better motors!?
Has an iPhone with a built in level uses a 3rd party app 😅 also did too much vlog and random complaints without actually comparing what matters! Also model x is a mini van and the r1s is an suv! What your friend was trying to say about the noise was real suvs having a big cabin behind the 2nd row seats echos because it’s not fully sealed like the front is also being boxy it’s causing turbulence due to not being as aerodynamic as the x! On top of that the x has had different refinements changes while the r1s is first gen so they haven’t had a chance to sound dampening properly!
@7:05 You pretty much influence his response about the noise. Trust when I say that sound is white noise to most kids & would literally put them to sleep on long rides 😂
The build quality on the R1S is superior to Tesla and for hauling a family especially for road trips it wins hands down again. MX is much smaller in interior space, try putting a roof rack on it, minimal frunk and wait till those gull wing doors are out of warranty.
Absolutely superb video presentation, thanks. Concise, descriptive, accurate and complete analysis of the two vehicles. Greatly appreciated. You have anticipated all of my questions and concerns. One of your best videos.
We own both cars and the R1S is the hands down winner overall.
Cross-shopping these. Why does R1S win? What year is your X?
@@ArtIrwin 2019 Tesla, 2023 R1S. R1S wins for surround view cameras, ride quality, multiple drive modes, ride height, turning radius, cubic storage, visibility, Alexa integration.
@@ArtIrwin The R1S is great for a date or a camping trip. Both vehicles are tech loaded but the R1S edges out the X in terms of interior tech but autopilot is better on the Tesla.
Too focused on the noise differences. Was curious on ride comfort, space in second and 3rd rows. Also speed/power, responsiveness and regenerative braking.
I agree. Especially if the audience is looking for their first EV. Coming from the gas-power supplied power vehicle they may not even notice the noise.
Noise should be minor
@@itisim noise matters. Trust me. EV car should be quiet.
Once you get above 70k noise is a big factor. Droning noise is not cool at this level of pricing.
One of the big differences between a gas luxury car and a non luxury car is sound dampening. Windows are double paned as well. Noise is a big deal.
After watching both of your review videos, I’m convinced that the Model X and R1S aren’t direct competitors and they serve different customers. Adventure, off-road, hauling - R1S. People hauling, tech, comfort - Model X. In the Model X’s case, I think a closer competitor would be the EQS SUV or the iX. The R1S doesn’t have a direct competitor. Either way, we need more choices in the EV space and it’s great to see more options.
Can I please get Tesla tech in the R1S. It would be game over.
@@losequis7682 Just curious, what tech in Tesla does Rivian not have that is so important? From my perspecitve, the only thing in my Model X that I would absolutely miss going to Rivian is having the driver door close when I step on the brake. Can't think of much else.
@@losequis7682 and if tesla made R1S version it would be game over right?
@@chasinman3495 Efficiency.
its a myth that the people buying rivians will do any offroading or hauling in such an expensive vehicle, its capabilities fall behind a standard truck but it is a cool toy for those who can afford it.
I have a X Plaid and love it. I have done lots of long road trips and my choice of Teslas somewhat based on the supercharger network. It is totally painless to go on long road trips.
Looks like a pickup sized vehicle vs a car. If you want one the other will be bad.
I want Rivian to succeed.
Love the boxy look. Tough and rugged look of the Rivian.
I like the Tesla Model X range, quietness and supercharger network, but that $30k price difference is a big deal. Plus Rivian gets the 7500 credit even before the new policy gets rolled out. it would be a very very hard decision.
Nobody’s getting a rivian that cheap
@@delontewilliams4090 pre-order holders are.
The price she lists is the one after the price increase. There aren’t that many options. That’s the price they are going for.
Not for me! Rivian is the clear winner by miles for this dude... paying 30k more and having to deal with that terrible yoke makes it a non starter. Plus no Musk baggage.
Electrify America is absolutely terrible and sets non Tesla ev owners up for failure and a more limiting experience, as great as the rivian is
Very nice vehicle. I am a Model Y owner but wish Rivian the greatest success. Competition like this is good for the EV industry and gives EV owners more choice. What’s the R1S range when towing 7,000 lbs though?
Towing 10,000 pounds reduces range by about 50%
I don't like that you're playing down how noisy the model X is. If you drive around without music or whatever (like you were the Rivian) the model X is loud. So loud that anything over 40-ish MPH and you can't even use the car to talk on the phone.
Interesting about the noise. With the radio on no one would here it. Think you’re being a bit picky. I do own a 2022 Y Performance and am taking delivery of a second Tesla in a few weeks. We have a Model X arriving between December 15-January 19.
I thought for years about buying the Model X yet just couldn’t pull the trigger. I waited for the refresh yet don’t love the paint/build quality relative to the price and so decided on the Rivian R1S which I get in early 2023. In my test drive I really loved the quality, performance, and capabilities. Interior is super. I guess I’m more of a SUV guy. I’m sure there’ll be some hiccups yet the value is pretty ridiculously good for Rivian. Still want to Model Y for my wife :-). Just my 2 cents.
Rich rebuilds just took his R1s on a road trip… I recommend watching it if you want to road trip. Also consider the battery size vs. range. Translation - lots of time charging…
I plan to get both. R1S delivery in the summer. And, the Model X in 2024.
Something new to say about the two cars? I’m hesitating between the two and have 3 kids.
Thanks in advance :)
@@louis-philippemenard3841R1S for sure.
@@louis-philippemenard3841 X 7 seater has headrests on all 2nd row seats so you can safely seat them all there if you need to maximize storage. Middle seat headrest is a must. Child carseats/boosters compensate but if the kid outgrows the booster they will need a headrest in case of impact.
One major MAJOR benefit of rivian are framed doors. SO much better than frameless. Sound better when closing door, doesn’t need the window to slide up and down and no one’s pulling on the window when closing the door.
Very big bonus
@@andrewashmore8000 zero bones who cares how doors sound when they close? And nobody closes a Tesla by the window. Lol c’mon
@@brandonderrick006tbh I’ve had passengers close my Tesla doors with the window frequently, it’s annoying.
@@819amaar ok but they are lost that can’t count fairly against my point lol
Kids are the best critics lol
This is like comparing a 4 runner or other real suv to a minivan. Nothing wrong with each but there's a reason they are geared towards different people and needs. I pick up my R1T in two days. When I test drove it I loved the whine of the motors. Gave a more tactile feel. My M3P is almost too quiet. Just my opinion. To each his/her own
I’ve been a hardcore Tesla fan since 2016 now, it’s rather nice seeing new Electric Vehicles on the market, which is exactly what Elon wanted.
sadly Elon is not so optimistic as you with Rivian
You do realize that Elon does not think that way. Not behind closed doors anyway. He is no different than any other mega rich business tycoon. He wants for his business what every business wants - total domination of the market place till they become a true monopoly. As usual throughout history, the only thing preventing that is a competitive market place and rules/ regulations that prevent the bigger fish from eating up the smaller ones.
I have the Model X and I love it. It is very nice to see an optional EV with a 3rd row seating option.
Have you ever driven them n over 100F weather? I’m curious on how the air conditioning holds up.
It’s not an issue for either vehicle. Solid AC system.
I think that Tesla will be adding that top down view at some point.. they have the cameras and if they are removing sensors, it will make it so much easier to park. I rented a Polestar 2 with the top down and it's nice to have.. in the model Y, (my daily driver) I am used to the sensors, but could easily get rid of them with the top down view. I agree with your neighbor and Ian.. the sounds are most likely amplified because it is a big box back there. my Y makes more noise if I put the back seats down.. My old S had air shocks, and the would go up and down but made no noise at all.
It was the air compressor... there are two reasons... 1- the car is on auto height adjustment setting and the car kept on adjusting the height... 2- it is possible that one of the air suspension is leaking, the compress kept pumping air into it. For my car, I don't hear the noise on scenario 1... I think it is more like scenario 2.
I was thinking the same thing, had to be the auto height adjustment or maybe he needs to get it repaired.
Agreed. The air compressor on my T turns on rarely but once I;m driving its not engaged.
do you think the sound you're hearing were the all terrain tires, rather than the street tires on the model x?
Noise is subjective. I don’t believe the noise was that much of a difference for me to consider it consistently throughout the video, but I understand your point of view coming from a model X.
How much money does he make
The Rivian's are beautiful. I love everything about them honestly. I bought my Tesla over all other EV options because of the infrastructure though. And it doesn't seem as though that's changing any time soon. Neat trucks, not practical for my use case because of the infrastructure, or lack thereof.
It's also worth noting, that the Rivian doesn't have any antiroll bars front or back , this is adjusted dynamically , this is good and bad. Good in that vehicle platform should remain flatter and more stable. Bad in that extra complexity is introduced into the system , that could give trouble down the road with unreliability, and maybe contribute to that noise , where suspension airbags have to empty a little bit and then fill a little bit keeping the compressor working alot.
If money was no option, I'd have both. They are both great!
No they are not
@@chadhaire1711 Please explain/expound/expand on that thought.
@@pvman2 Once the big car companies get into the EV game Rivian and Lucid will not be able to compete......they will disappear like Hudson, Nash, and DeSoto did in the 1950's......and the cars they sold won't be worth scrap. Bad investments.
@@chadhaire1711 That doesn't exactly say why they are not great vehicles. Personally, I think Tesla is here to stay.
I somewhat agree with you regarding the likes of Lucid and Faraday, but Rivian has good investors, decent manufacturing rate, and a contract with Amazon that will generate a significant revenue for a while. Let's wait and see.
@@chadhaire1711 The legacy makers are struggling mightily. It will still take them a few years to catch up, and only a few will make it. In the meantime, Rivian and Lucid have a very good chance to succeed as long as they perform well. Their products are AMAZING, both already offering performance that Tesla doesn’t, which is just incredible. But success as an auto company requires more than great product. We shall see.
I have a plaid x and am also getting a Rivian. Luckily money isnt an issue. Question now is T or S
Save your money
Get both since your money is not an issue. The neighbors will definitely envy you. That’s the goal… right?
@@carlosnorris352 I have no neighbors, so no that isn’t the point. I just like fun cars. I also have a 1989 Suzuki Sidekick that is my favorite. Doubt anyone is impressed with that…
I am still skeptical about the R1S and how if you go on long road trips how charging would be like.
Why it needs to constantly leveling while driving?
It is difficult for me to understand why someone would choose the X over the R1S (especially with X being much more $$$$). The R1S seems to offer so much more versatility, room, capability,...... and it is a looker! The X is the least attractive tesla to me
What about now? Tesla Model X is so much cheaper than a comparable Rivian right?
We have a pre refresh model x. The electric doors are amazing and I will miss them when we move to a smaller car.
This video was posted about 10 months ago. Does anyone confirm that the noise issue, Rivian, got rid of by any software update?
Though it seems like a smaller consideration when choosing a vehicle, I'm curious... Which one has a better sound system?
I own both and tesla is a bit better
Which tires were on the rivian?
I prefer the Rivian R1S as it is a better multipurpose veicule. Most of the video as about the noise, and there is so much diferences to talk about.
which model X are you testing? the plaid?
Good review, thanks for posting. Sign me up for the Rivian. I'm a Tesla owner since 2016, currently I have a Model X Long Range with FSD. The only thing that Tesla has over other EVs that in my view is important is the charging network. I would trade my X for an R1S today if I could.
Yes, Tesla built great charging network to satisfy customers since car gives very low range than claimed :)
@@bikshamtg3777 It depends on how you drive, uphill, speed etc. Applies to all EV.
Have they fixed the noise issue since this post? I won't get one until they switch over to NACS
Kim Java, love this video. Ultimately which would you recommend ? I have a model y. Looking to get a 6-7 seater. Test drive the rivian r1s - felt like it’s a little noisy compared to my tesla. But also test drove the x, felt very similar to the y…
Rivian is winning me over every time i watch a review on it. I’m ready to move from my Ram pickup to a mid to large suv. This will make me go electric sooner than I’d imagined
Hertz rental convinced me to try a Model Y recently and I thought it had a surprising amount of road noise.
I'd get an R1S if I had to buy an EV now though...because it is the most useful to me. I worry the most about the air suspension compressor... Gets used a lot and is always the problem on suspensions with it from other manufacturers.
But fairly easily fixed. Id have a backup installed just in case. A wear item like that should be a replaceable cartridge.
But after owning a vehicle with air suspension, I don’t want to get anything else. The drive is so smooth!
I have a 2013 lexus LX 570, and about to sale it to get a R1s. I had to fix my air suspension after my SUV was out of warranty. $800 dollars after 8 years. All good. Eights years no oil change etc etc with rivian. I'm ok with that.
I wish a regular spring setup was an option in the R1S.
Is this as loud as the lucid? The lucid’s motor makes a humming sound
Thank you! This video is amazing! I like the booth! ❤ in my opinion they need to make a fission !
Your garage looks so clean! Where do you keep the bikes, skate boards, rip sticks, and scooters? Gotta get busy cleaning mine now. Good job for a rainy Saturday.
Thanks for a great video. The noise would be issue for me after driving EV's for 10 years (Leaf and Tesla's). I don't like the front styling...headlights do not have the streamline look. The X is much better in styling. Nice to have all the room of the Rivian. Charging is still a problem for everyone except the Supercharger network...not only numbers but reliability. I like the yoke but miss the horn in the middle. Still trying to get use to the turn signals without having to look down. It is especially difficult if you make a u-turn and then have to turn again. Overall the yoke is amazing to be able to see out the windshield.
What are your thoughts about the Faraday Futures FF1?
Can we get an update video now that a ton of updates have rolled out to both--especially, the latest Rivian OTA updates to ride handling?
To me the two most important issues are first is the company going to be around to get parts.
Secondly I bought my vehicle for road trips.
This eliminates CCS charging for dependable road trips.
With Rivian's larger battery now available how do the ranges compare with the two mfg's? Everything the Rivian does better is super important to me; everything the Tesla does better is no big deal. I think it's great that we're getting more choices, more competition and they're pushing each other to improve. I'm looking at the new Volvo models coming this summer, both of the Rivian's and the upcoming R2 will be a welcome addition.
I love the Rivian design and the yoke! So definitely aR1S
I love the Rivian way better. The interior is so much nicer. All the seats fold flat, for and air mattress for sleeping. Way more space!
Yep, the Rivian S is much more fun. The X is for going to the mall.
I'm curious if Rivian will emphasize noise reduction, because early Tesla's had major noise issues with under the hood components that they had to eventually address in a similar fashion.
I like the noise in my R1T but I’m coming from a Ram and not another electric vehicle. I don’t miss the purr of my hemi quite as much when my new truck sounds like a space ship when I romp on it.
Good video. Thank you. May want to update pricing options.
Should try a comparable gas car to see of your spoiled around noises.
2019 Model 3 is noisy.
the lease on my current ice vehicle is up in spring of 2024 and I'm so excited for the choices that will be available by then. That's the goal right? Something for everyones taste!
My nephew, Liam, laying down the truth!! 😂 Really amazing video guys! You guys answered all my questions regarding the comparison of these two vehicles.
When you bring a minivan to an suv fight 😅
Great and informative video, speaking for myself cannot deal with the falcon wings, if they had an option without them would buy. So R1S it is.
The compressor is inside the vehicle which would be harder to isolate, but give them a few years and I bet it will be solved. On a gas vehicle that compressor would be up near the motor. Again people keep calling the X and an SUV, but it's truly a CUV. If you look at what a sport utility vehicle started, Go to the original Jeep Wagoneer, the Suburbans. Those are SUVs. A CUV is based on a car chassis. The X is based on a car chassis Ala the Model S.
In order to make a fair and accurate-compare the Rivian Max battery to the X. For Gen 1 Rivians, the max battery range is over 400 miles vs 335 for the Tesla X.
This is like comparing an apple to an orange. Both amazing vehicles.
The 7-seat Model X now starts at 81.5k
“Not as many options” was propped as a benefit, but more options for charging or software capabilities is always, always better. It sounds like slang for “not as many features”
Go on then, trade the ability to drive anywhere for the roulette wheel that is public charging? Thats the bottom line 125,000 uk miles over 9 years never having to que or never having a duff charger. No mater how good the EV its useless for distance work without a dedicated charging infrastructure......case closed
Lexus LX 600 has dual tanks for it's available Active Height Control (AHC) system allows total travel of 5.1 inches to avoid the constant compressor activating.
Good comparisons. Expert 3rd row reviews.
Lexus😂😂 is a combustion Car , slow, and outdated , only the price is new what you doing here??
Lexus, need a large electric suv. Until then, no more more large lexus LX's for me. Electric is the way to go. Very little maintenance, tires, window shield wiper fluid and maybe something else.
The LX600 doesn't have air S
Suspension lol. It uses an active hydraulic suspension system
Come on ... noisy smelly jerky ICE !
Thanks Kim. My biggest takeaway: Liam is a smart kid - and very cute. :)
In a perfect world, I would take the R1S but with the Tesla Supercharger network.
had R1S for almost 1 year, didn’t notice that noise difference to be honest.
Some drive times for my last "road trip" 2060 km to Germany and back again from this week:
Actual Model Y: According to ABRP 20 hours - Actual time with traffic jams and accidents in Germany was 26 hours...
Model X 2022 Plaid: 20:25 hours
Rivian R1S 180 - hats the largest battery!: 21 hours
Aptera Gemini 100kWh: 19:22 hours
Model 3 LR 82 kWh: 19:25 hours - will be fun to compare it with the Aptera on real world road trips.
Cybertruck Dual Motor: 23 hours
Ford F150: 23 hours
And just for the fun, with my Fiat 500E from 2021 it would take 26 hours. 😁😁😁
Im into the adventuring utility aspects of the Riv brand... a lil extra noise isn't an issue
that noise is definitely the air compressor. its a design flaw - they didnt put enough sound sound and vibration dampening. its in the same location as the R1T but its not a big deal in that vehicle because it outside the cabin so its a miss by their design and testing. the sloshing noise might be water in the door. its a known issue it can collect down at the bottom and theres a drain plug to release it... probably another design flaw
11:00 absolutely!! Having the door closed by stepping on the break… I cannot give this up. I’m driving model x now and need to decide whether to switch to rivian. Does rivian have autopilot or no?
No autopilot for Rivian
@@kl163g Driver+ is basically the same thing.
I would go for the rivian R1S
Informative, interesting and fun review!
I might suggest putting a level on the floor of the vehicle since the whole point of the feature is to level the vehicle. Few body styles are perfectly parallel with the chassis... for styling sake the body lines may slope a little or a lot.
Thank you for your video!
Maybe put some foam around the compressor.
I’m pretty sure the noise you’re hearing is the air compressor pump
Lmaooo she named her neighbor “Chris v6 “😂😂😂😂😂😂
The Rivian is nice, but when you weigh in all the factors of their differences, I still choose the Model X. The only 7-seater SUV that’s closest to swaying me away from the Model X currently is the Volvo EX90.
model x all the way since i love the looks, tech, charging network, quietness, and the comfortability, it would be better for me since id do mostly road driving then offroading and if i even do any type of minor offroading the tesla would be good enough.
The X is NOT an SUV. It;s a 100% road car.
For going to the mall. Nothing wrong with that.
Wondering if that Riv air compressor is oil or oiless
That kid cracks me up. He's going to be a professional reviewer some day.
Rivian can definitely reduce noise by adding more sound insulation or noise cancelling speakers. You can also set the suspension to a specific ride height so the air compressor doesn't adjust as much. Check the review from EV and Chill.
I've never heard an air suspension noise like that on a modern Land Rover/Range Rover. I'm guessing there is more insulation.
Thank you for the review . I dont think it is fair comparison :) R1S is much better than Tesla Model X.
Imo the Tesla is not a suv. I don't understand why people keeping calling it that?
A couple of things- the price difference you quote... is no longer valid- Rivian price for new buyers is about the same as the model X now. 2nd- they are really diffrent class of vehicles, though they are lumped together by govt and magazines- The model X (as well as the Model Y) are Crossovers, not true SUV's- they are the SUV made solely for road use with most of the utility of a SUV in that environment. Otherwise, good comparison over the course of your videos on this three-day trade.
The model X and Y are more like compact SUVs
Check your facts. Even with the “new pricing”, the MX comes out about $30k higher priced than an R1S
@@awash7156 That’s correct. This commenter didn’t check the facts.
Noise from tires ?
knob on tires can make a lot of noise
points?
The noise is from the all terrain tires
If they get rid of the air suspension and just put normal springs under it, the compressor noise complaint would go away. It's a shame that a feature they spent millions to include and drives up the customer price is something that hurts the package.
I agree with your friend a open back like in the Rivian or SUV or station wagon there is a sound noise but not in sedans and apparently not in a model X which is open , maybe better motors!?
Has an iPhone with a built in level uses a 3rd party app 😅 also did too much vlog and random complaints without actually comparing what matters! Also model x is a mini van and the r1s is an suv! What your friend was trying to say about the noise was real suvs having a big cabin behind the 2nd row seats echos because it’s not fully sealed like the front is also being boxy it’s causing turbulence due to not being as aerodynamic as the x! On top of that the x has had different refinements changes while the r1s is first gen so they haven’t had a chance to sound dampening properly!
I thought I had an appetite for a luxury electric SUV, but all I wanted was a club sandwich.
First time sitting in a Tesla is an experience because of the hype. But after that if feels cheap and I’m talking about the plaid.
@7:05 You pretty much influence his response about the noise. Trust when I say that sound is white noise to most kids & would literally put them to sleep on long rides 😂
At the end of the day I’m looking for service and convenience of charging accessibility 👍
The build quality on the R1S is superior to Tesla and for hauling a family especially for road trips it wins hands down again. MX is much smaller in interior space, try putting a roof rack on it, minimal frunk and wait till those gull wing doors are out of warranty.