Rivian R1S vs. Tesla Model X Plaid | Three Row EV SUV Comparison Test | Which Luxury EV SUV Is Best?
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- The Rivian R1S and Tesla Model X Plaid each take a very different approach to the large luxury three-row EV SUV segment - a segment in which they’re essentially the only two major players. Tesla’s got years of experience under its belt at this point - though it’s definitely still a startup - while Rivian is the newcomer looking to fight. Both SUVs are mega-powerful and lay down performance figures that seem to defy the laws of physics, and both boast impressive electric ranges. So, which one comes out on top? Join Edmunds’ Ryan ZumMallen in the video above to find out!
Correction: 02:01 R1T is about 17" longer than than R1S
2022 Rivian R1S pricing & review: edmu.in/3R2tCLV
2022 Tesla Model X pricing & review: edmu.in/3GACLZa
00:00 Intro
01:30 Walk-Around
04:33 R1S Interior
08:27 Model X Interior
13:01 Cargo
17:04 R1S Driving
20:17 Model X Driving
25:33 At the Track
26:54 Edmunds' Take
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Is this the start of the auto industry's next great rivalry? Let us know if you're Rivian Nation or Team Tesla in the comments below.
the Tesla PLAID has been Clocked on a DYNO machine @ over 1200+ HP , and broke several DYNO machines.
RIVIAN R1S is Garbage , only 800+ HP and less RANGE than base Model X.
RIVIAN is lacking any good SOFTWARE .
and RIVIAN has the WORST Efficiency after the Hummer EV.
TESLA mod X has over 100+ mpg.
FASTS are , the Rivian is a GARBAGE suv.
and Rivian is UNABLE to Execute or SCALE.
Rivian only builds a handfull of SUV, compared to 100k units by TESLA each year.
TESLA is the only OEM that is EXECUTING, producing, delivering and SELLING every Vrehicle its PRODUCING .
and Tesla will Continue selling EVERY vehicle it makes for DECADES.
as TESTED , the Rivian has a WEAK glass roof and already BROKE for several TH-camrs.
the TESLA Armored glass roof can withstand 12 Female Elephants stacked on top.
Umm, the R1T is 17” longer than the R1T, the opposite of what you said in the video. 200” for R1S and 217” for R1T.
There's an error at 2:03, the R1S is 17" shorter than the truck.
On the R1S "flat floor" comment, you missed the fact that the floor cover in the back can be moved to sit up behind the folded seats, converting the whole thing into a flat floor you can sleep on. I only mention it because it was specifically called out by customers as a "nice to have" and they added it into the design. Kind of speaks to it's camping theme.
Exactly what i was thinking!!!
I was thinking the same thing when he was talking about the air compressor. One of their selling points is you can use it to blow up an air mattress and turn the back into a bed for camping.
I mean yeah, but it's not "flat", it just creates a little ramp to smooth things out.
Comparing the R1S to the standard model X would have been a much better comparison. Both on cost and performance.
I'm literally online looking up Rivian R1 Trucks. I never knew these EV had that much power! Thanks Ryan this video was very educational and honestly fucking dope to see!
I second that comment! Great review dude!
Should've used the 22's on the R1S for the acceleration test as well as the track test. Or there should've been an off-roading portion since the Rivian was on 34" all terrain tires. It was nice to see the comparison, could've been better though. Also the R1S is 17" shorter than the R1T
At 26:15, 2.7 seconds is not "more than a full second faster" than 3.4 seconds.
It’s is in Tesla seconds….
Yeah I had to go back and rewatch after hearing him say that.
Informed and well-reasoned. Thank you. Sometimes what drives you (no pun intended) in one direction or another as a buyer in these comparisons is your most important requirements. If you live in a flood-prone area, for example, you will value the R1S significantly above the X because it has more than a 3-foot wading depth. If you value acceleration above all else, you will prefer the X. If you value people-hauling comfort more than other characteristics, you'll favor the R1S. If you value road-tripping capability, you'll select the X, because of the Tesla supercharging and destination charger networks. If price is most important, you'll select the R1S. If cool is most important, you might select the X. If cargo capacity is most important, you'll prefer the R1S. If company risk is most important, you'll lean toward the X. If utility (air compressor, rooftop carrying, and towing) is driving you (no put intended), you'll like the R1S better. If you like the Elon Musk brand better, you'll choose the X. If you like off-roading, you'll select the R1S. Most important requirements. Everybody has them. They drive (no pun intended) everything.
2:03 “R1S is 17 longer” than the R1T it’s actually the opposite. You would think a SENIOR EDITOR of a car publication would know that!
Decent video (thank you!) but apples to oranges. Comparing what is akin to a body on frame Sports UTILITY vehicle to a ‘cross over’. The fact that the R1S can do all it can do and still be in the same conversation as a Plaid (Speed, Passenger capacity etc) almost twice its price is what is astounding.
And performance comparison was done with the worst of the three Wheel/tire combinations for that purpose. Try the same with the 22” which many of us configured. :)
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The Rivian isn't really in the same conversation about speed... or close to half the price of the Tesla. But otherwise I agree, it is much better off road and a completely different type of vehicle.
Performance model X dominates this car. It’s not even close lol
The video is chock full of inaccuracies. It really makes me question whether Edmunds can be trusted as an accurate source of automotive journalism. This is amateur, TH-cam influencer content, at best.
I gotta say I think that Rivin looks really good. Best looking EV/SUV out there IMO. As long as that company is here for the long haul, that's the one I would grab.
They have been pretty successful the past 2 years and with Amazon's investment in them I think they are here to stay
TESLA Cybertruck will steal RIVIANS thunder in 2023.
Pfft Tesla has to make it first. At that point the competition will have lots of lead time. And it’s a polarizing design. Not saying they won’t sell them but it will likely be mostly appealing to current Tesla fanboys, people with deep pockets who just want to say i got one and NASA as future lunar rovers.
Agreed Rivian just looks so beautiful! Not something Musk cult want to hear though!
@@jasonwilliams705 - TESLA has already won THIS Decade.
Superb comparision and one of the best car reviews I've come across. Thanks for doing it. Our first Tesla was a 2013 preowned Model S P85 with 0-60 in 4.1. Sadly I thought I had to have the Model 3, having driven Tesla loaners with AP. I had not driven a 3 and back then had barely sat in one. My wife drives the 3 & rarely uses AP, actually never is more like it. She is just not into gadgets. Wish I had kept the S, driven both the few months then either kept both or sold the 3 as it is no where near as fun to accelerate as the P85 was. I'm lookiing at these two cars as well as upcoming Ford Lightning, EX90 from Volvo. Also looking at Lucid. Its styling is ok, but not a model S in this regard. I have never liked the Tesla yoke and your video confirms my thoughts esp in regard to U turns. Also miss the stalks. A solution in search of a problem. I don't expect Elon to ever back down re the yoke, so I may just look for a preowned S or X. Third party round steering wheels still don't restore stalks and not sure affect on Tesla warranty. Those are my thoughts and thank you once again for a great video.
Tesla showed the way. No one can ever take that away from them. But as a consumer, I am rooting for the competition. Benefits all, including Tesla.
the so called COMPETITION are comming all over themselves.
1000%
This is an excellent in-depth comparison video, well done.
Model x visor actually works well for me. Still waiting on my R1S from Apr 21 preorder. Probably will keep both
I have two coworkers who bought the S Plaid and the only reason they got it was to go faster than a typical exotic car for fun. The Tesla Plaid S or the X are just a toy and nothing more.
The acceleration does not mean it loses all the other benefits of the long range model s/x... It just costs more.
You can't compare the 0 to 60 test because the rivian was on all terrain tires and the tesla was on street tires
I find it weird that anyone would compare one over the other without reference to use case. If you’re never going to go off road and rarely transport 6 or 7 adults the Tesla is a better option. (Edmunds should have had a 7 seat version to compare 7 seat functionality.)
The Rivian is designed for the adventure set, not suburban chic.
The Rivian is a beast off road.
Lastly, there was no review of the real luxury of these vehicles which is the software and apps that control them. Both Rivian and Tesla provide great features that aren’t available in any other manufacturer vehicles regardless of drive train.
I disagree. The R1S just a bigger vehicle. Of course if money is no object go with the Model X. But if you have kids you’ll understand why a parent would pick the R1S over the Model X. Not only that, if you live anywhere that it snows, floods or anything that might require Capable driving the R1S still wins. Only thing I can give the Model X an up on is the charging network.
I just don't see how he would recommend the model x over the r1s it's not practical on the inside
It’s also 50 grand more expensive with an interior and build quality that feels fit for a car 50 grand cheaper.
Regarding the yoke, Tesla didn't implement it well. What I'm reading is Toyota got it right with the Lexus RZ. And I'm not talking about other aspects of the RZ, only the steer by wire yoke in the RZ has a very short lock to lack and is variable so parking and sports maneuvers are much easier.
The X is a tall car, another crossover and the performance is overkill unless you track it. The R1S is more like an SUV in that it goes off-road and is meant to go off-road. But it is quite a large vehicle. The comparison is apples to oranges and the Model X is way more expensive.
2:01 is the R1T the longer car here? Not the R1S
Nice fair review. 👍
Not sure if the track comparison is fair given the price difference. Would you compare a $50k car to a $100k one? Should've gone with a base Model X.
People compare the Model S to the $70,000 more Lucid Air all the time.
@@Soh90 RIght, they should not use the highest trim Air. They should use a lower trim Air, which go down well below the price of a Model S.
@@TheMukster Good luck finding a $70,000 Licid that they promised. Virtually every company has raised their prices, including Rivian who blindsided their existing reservation holders with price hikes…. Before taking it back. Car And Driver already reported on the Cheaper Lucid. Newsflash, it’s still north of $100,000. They claim a cheaper model is still “coming”. Yeah, ok lol.
Saw an R1S on the road yesterday and it looks really good. It’s very functional and they even missed some of the things you can do in this video. I just don’t see the X being as useful or accommodating but I get that they’re more established too
too bad the Exterior is CHEAP quality Plastic , that wont hold up in 4x4 off road conditions.
Yoke is now a premium option vs round steering wheel
R1S is shorter than the pickup not longer
Just fyi-the R1S is shorter than the R1T. Not the other way around. 2:02
Wonder if the latest price reductions of the X Plaid (now starting at 94,990) changes Edmund’s recommendation.
before watching - I know which I would have, but I can see how this is a bit apples to oranges and how personal taste really determines which one would want.
however based on some of the quirks of the Tesla, I'd say the Rivian is the way to go for day to day driving.
4:18 wow, I knew prices had gone up, I just didn't know it was by that much.
24:59 something that contradicts literally everyone else in the field at this time, and not in a good way.
interesting. I would have thought the R1S would have been a bit more "fully baked" than that, and some of the issues are a bit "really guys? I expect better of you than that"
But, overall, I agree with your results, I just thought this would be more clear cut than it is.
The Plaid is actually an insane bargain if you compare it to similarly powerful cars. Won't find one under $ 3-400k
-The potential for refinement: One is at the beginning of its design cycle, the other at its end.
Exactly
Is the X at its end? One would think so but Tesla doesn't seem to change their basic designs. Not yet, anyway.
@@benjaminsmith2287 Tesla don't have "design cycles" in that way...
The R1S is shorter than the R1T, you should correct the video
Not even a year later, the Model X Plaid costs 90K brand new, or less than a R1S Quad Motor Large Battery (92K currently and similar to the one shown in the video)...
The price for the Tesla is hard to swallow. Then again, an ICE car with that kind of power costs 4 times more, can't seat 6 and can't tow a trailer.
You did not talk about the autopilot abilities of the Rivian. Are we to understand that Rivian doesn’t have driving assist - just lane keep - neither BEV offers heads up display ?
Speaking of yoke steering, instead of doing hand over hand you use your palm. Which is how I drive with a steering wheel anyways. It's how I was taught in driver's ed. Also, I've never driven with a yoke but the idea is it uses fewer materials, gives you more room, and it doesn't block any displays or your view. I drive a Mazda 2 which is considered a sport subcompact. When I adjust the steering wheel into a comfortable position it blocks the gauges and I have to glance underneath the steering wheel to see the speedometer or any of the gauges instead of just a quick glance down.
Tesla offers both FOTA AND SOTA over the air updates. Competition offers mostly SOTA and mostly just infomat system. Tesla has space X on its side
It is a iPhone on wheels
23:40 "The vibes are immaculate, the functionality is not." Good sum-up of any Tesla, really.
Who performs the calculating for y’all? 3.4-2.7 < 1.0.
Haven’t watched the full review yet, but I’m guessing that the Rivian will be cool but not necessarily better than the Model X. I think Tesla’s software is better than Rivian and the Model X will likely be more efficient even with it’s much smaller battery. The Rivian will be more useful due to it being shaped like the box the Model X came in. Overall, the Plaid seems like the wrong choice here. I think the regular Model X is a better comparisons and better buy honestly.
I like Tesla’s interiors and technology, but I like Rivian’s exterior and rugged design better
Software and systems are a big deal with these. No doubt that the Tesla wins right now. Just sat in one a few days ago. Beautiful car. Rivian is beautiful as well. But I do have a hard time seeing them keeping the price at the same as ordered when they finally become available next summer or so. And I could understand that as well. For example a nice R1S is $75K for the quad motor with the original order. I can't see how they can keep to that next year. But when they get these refined a bit with Sandy Munroe it will be worth the higher price and they should in my opinion adjust the price and I say that as a reservation holder of a White R1S.
I bought a new 2017 model X now with 70,000 miles. Only maintenance are tires. Never needed service center still feels new charge at home with solar. Save $500/month on home electricity and gas
Safest and fastest suv in the world
My X has 7 seats. Falcon doors you can stand climbing in 3rd tow.
This is a very informative and excellent video in comparison of Rivian &Tesla.
The silouette of the Rivian is similar the the Ford Flex...
I consider 1yrs ownership as short term. Ev's are new thus the standard 5ys would be considered as "long-term".
If I were buying a SUV the Rivian is an absolute "no brainer".. Sure the Tesla performs on road, but so does the Rivian @ almost 2k lbs more. Rivian, more room, more utility. Tesla just flash.
Part of Teslas MSRP is paying for the private supercharging network. Other manufacturers are producing EV’s while trying to make government(taxpayers) or private to pick up the tap. Most Supercharges are 1000 mph charging. Many are solar powered and or battery storage powered. So many stalls and incorporated in navigation software.
I own a 2022 Model X. Gear selection is a non issue like all these journalists like to make it. Slider on the screen is easy to use and is impossible to accidentally bump. Intelligent gear selection from start.... just to be clear, works 100% of the time. Additionally the yoke is easy to get used to but it's biggest benefit is a completely uninterrupted view of the screen which is great. For normal driving (about 95% of the time) it works absolutely fine. For hand over hand turns (about 5% of the time) when you are in a car park or doing a u-turn you just get used to it and it is worth the sacrifice for the uninterrupted view. But.... this is Edmunds. Honestly, the yoke "debacle" is akin to blackberry users in 2007 screaming.... "how can you have no buttons on your phone". It's also impressive what Rivian is doing!!
Are you saying that your auto gear selection works 100% of the time? On my Model S, it's got to be 50% or worse. I'll pull into a parking spot, and then when I return to the car and I'm ready to leave it will suggest driving straight into a pole, a tree, or another parked car most of the time.
I don't agree with he reviewer regarding the shifter on the touch screen. I find that to be really fast and easy.
I gave the Yoke a good try for about 6 months, but finally ditched for a round, nappa leather steering wheel. the feel of real leather in my hand makes me feel like I'll driving a luxury car. I actually had no problem with the Yoke in a parking lot, I just used one finger and cranked it as if I were using a suicide knob.
I hated the Yoke in high speed driving. I felt like I had no control of the car in a high speed turn. With a round wheel, I feel like I'm driving a performance car again. The aftermarket steering wheel I have is REALLY heavy. The additional weight has an unexpected benefit, slow turns are much smoother now.
Overall, I really appreciated the comparison. I would love to own a Rivian. I don't want two Teslas. I personally prefer the feel of a Sedan for daily driving. For a road trip in an EV, the Tesla super charger network is essential. I would love to have a Rivian truck as a second car. I'll likely buy one used in a few years - assuming I can get one for half price.
The Tesla is so dorky … I’m a BMW/Subaru/Lotus/Rover guy, so it will be the R1S next!! #Rivian is the functional beast for us!
I dream about Tesla van, with back end from r1s, 7 seats and sliding doors.
An EV van would be great for kidnapping. Get on it Elon!
One thing that all the reviews comparing Rivian and Tesla do not cover the comparison of how the companies support their customers. My son owns a R1T and I own a model Y. Tesla sucks in customer support and Rivian really goes the extra mile in this area. I found Tesla customer support is basically none. And whenever you do get hold of anybody in the service area, their attitude generally come across as arrogant to a point that I find them very unpleasant to deal with.
I wouldnt base my decision on which ones goes faster in 0 to 60, or the quarter mile, or top speed. All those things are irrelevant. Is the vehicle safe, does it have enough room to be comfortable in. Will I have a hard time adjusting to something that is built so different from a regular vehicle. I dont like Tesla Steering wheel, and lack of blinker arm. Just those two things alone would turn me away from any vehicle. I think I will wait about 10 years or so before I think about getting any kind of EV. By then the price should come down about half way, and their will be more options.
udrag on Model X Plaid please.
Take them both Off Road! Let's highlight all their capabilities. Please finish the comparison in 2 different cars
If you need a minivan but want something cooler, get the X. If you are going to go off road, are more of an adventure type driver, may or may not have kiddos, get the R1S. I think the X is still better for most people who have more than 1 kid and are resistant to owning a traditional mini van.
Are you sure the R1S is longer then the R1T??? I’ve heard the exact opposite from respected journalists.
Can the R1S 2nd row seats fold flat so folks in the 3rd row can stretch their legs? Model Y, for one, can do that.
The model x plaid is the ultimate family car.
when i look comments more people like R1s good luck Rivian.
Without a doubt the Tesla X is far Superior. Better range, faster than a speeding bullet, did I mention the incredible wing doors? The yoke is now optional. The seven passenger X lays completely flat. The 2023 Rivian gets 66 mpg while the 2023 Tesla gets an amazing 107 mpg. No comparison. Model X has a drag coefficient of just .24 Cd, the lowest of any production SUV on the planet, while Rivian has a has a drag coefficient of 0.30 Cd. Tesla has the largest super charger infrastructure in the world, Rivian, not so much.
Model X Plaid now $90,000, Dual Motor AWD is $80,000.
It's 17 inches shorter than the R1T, not longer...
There are also a lot of other wrong statistics in this video.
Today Tesla Model X plaid is $5000 cheaper than a dual motor R1S. I wanna buy the R1S but their charging sucks.
Rivian hands down
Great host.
But the Model X you can get in this life. Mine is due in December. R1S cool as hell but it will be 3 years before you might get it. Plus horrible charging network.
Autopilot / ADAS given short shrift. And did I hear NOTHING about range and charging network?
Well price is down for the Model X now.
80k
If you look at current Model X prices it is now a bargain. A Model X with 20” wheels is currently only $104990. If you want a white interior it’s another $2k.
It's a good video
I have an X Plaid and have R1S on order. The R1S is built for adventure, road tripping but it has poor efficiency. Poor charging. And relies on a crap network in EA, and has no heat pump so I can’t take it to ski unless I’m willing to give up more efficiency.
So I’m going to take delivery just because it is a good deal. But because of its poor efficiency and lack of network. I’d still end up taking the X on road trips when I would prefer the space of the R1S
Tesla stops at red lights. LiDAR and cameras both have pros/cons. LiDAR is not perfect wait her
Is it true that Rivian has gone broke?
The model x always seemed a hatchback to me,not tall enough to be worthy of being called an suv.
Can’t use apple or android CarPlay locked into Amazon system is a miss in my checkbook liked them suv just can’t stand Amazon technology it sucks …
26:19 how is 2,7 more then a second less then 3,4? How does your math 😂
R1 is an SUV, Mode X is a hatchback/station wagon, can’t really see cross shopping the two. R1 is the first EV I would actually consider.
So what are the chances that all this “vegan leather” is made from petroleum or natural gas products? Love the capability, as a car guy, but the fools buying these for the environment are funny.
I have a Model X Plaid in the exact same setup as the one tested (red/white/20") and I love everything about it. While the price is high, you will not find any other new vehicle for less money that will beat the acceleration of the Model X Plaid. I run 9.80's every time I go down the track (1/4 mile) and my personal best 0 to 60 is 2.38 seconds (measured with Dragy). The Model X is Drag Race car daily driver and perfect road trip and family vehicle all in one. The interior doesn't feel as luxerious like a Mercedes Benz but it is very functional with amazing tech.
Here is a video of my Model X Plaid against a Rivian..th-cam.com/video/6cJIsg85Tww/w-d-xo.html
Yeah but your Model X is ugly.
@@Lamppostout Taste is subjective.. Everyone likes different things.. We would all be driving the same car if we had the same taste. I also enjoy blowing the doors off Lambos, Porsches, Ferraris and modified Vettes and Mustangs, all in a 6 seat CUV/SUV...
Tesla more power.....are the breaks upgraded to handle that power?🤔
TOP of line BREMBO brakes, that youll NEVER use, REGEN even stops VERTICAL on a hill.
If you all knew how many times I’ve seen infused model s and model x drivers in parking lots in l stuck cus that yoke doesn’t work well in parking lots lol it’s quite comical. The next time I’m gonna film it 🤣
Rivian is much better 7 seat car than a Tesla. Much more functional too if you have to haul bulky items like washing machine or fridge. Flat roof top also offer much better carrying capability than Tesla. Overall, Tesla if you want to accelerate like crazy, Rivian if you want a functional all purpose 7 seater EV. But for average person, they should wait for Kia EV9. Lots of room and heck of lot cheaper than either Tesla or Rivian.
How can the X not break a back-seat occupant's neck or bash their brains?
RIVIAN has not even sold 10K , its CRAP.
@@markplott4820 Rivian have sold over 14,000 and production is increasing, your point?
@@GA-wq8xq - RIVIAN is not RAMPING as fast as Lightning and Rivian is TOO complex to build , the INTERIOR and dash takes too long to build.
you can have EZ to assemble LUX interior w/ QUALITY materiels , but PROPERLY designed to Assemble FAST, Accuratly and self locating .see - RIVIAN interiors - MUNRO live.
Lol ok Elon.
Tesla Model X Plaid is the best car in the world under $500k.
It's vinyl, not plastic! ;-P
Umm 2.7 sec is not a full second faster than 3.4 sec. It’s 0.7 sec. Delete this 😂
suv vs minivan
I own a X100DL with standard steering wheel, vertical 17” screen. I like the performance, range, integration of navigation and Supercharger network, service. The software, UI is superb. However, Rivian is truly a 7 seat SUV, large cargo space, off road performance, handles floods better. Very practical real SUV.
Should not allow boomers to review tomorrow's tech with uncertain bias such as gear selectors, vent controls and blind spot detection. Go back to your flip phones and 1980s.
Your view is so biased, model X is the best EV on this planet period
Lol 😆 tesla got competition
The gear selection on the model x is no problem just swipe up or down how is that a big deal
It’s not. People just don’t like change. It’s literally no more difficult than a Honda push button or Ford’s rotary shifters that’s I inadvertently slam into Park every single time I try to go into reverse. I’m sure my work car will need a new transmission any day now lol.
Yeah of all the complaints, the gear selector should not be one unless you are just 'old man shaking fist at clouds'. After using it a couple times one realizes how absolutely silly it is to have some sort of dedicated stalk/lever/whatever piece of plastic. Swiping is trivial and easy.
Tesla haven’t used rader in well over a year. How is this still news? 😂😂😂
I love it! Gas cars are irrelevant
i would take the mach E over these. the rivian truck is cool but the mach E looks way better plus ford service
Good observations, but good luck in getting six in your 'E
the MEX-e is CRAP - Munro live.
50k views and only 350 likes lol
I believe model x weighs less
Than old school gas Escalade.
I would take the Model X Plaid because I don't think Rivian will be around in a few years at the rate they are burning cash and issues with tonneau covers and something called "vampire drain".
All EVs have vampire drain, including the Model X.
hi wassup
Can’t wait to postpone my retirement for buying one of these $100k SUVs
Rivian got killer looks! Tesla meh!
Horrible review… does anyone involved with this production recognize that Tesla has been in the market for over a decade, & Rivian for 3 years if one’s being a stickler for timing.
Rivians R1S destroys the Model X in every real world scenario. Who, in their right mind would throw $150k away on a vehicle that hemorrhages money so fast as a Tesla. $150 gets you into far more aspirational brands!