modded always, but is a huge step in the right way for Criterion to match this kind of Physics that the comunity always want since nfs 2015... Imagine how happy with this are the console players :)
i love your mod, as always.. BUT the vanilla handling is some refreshing update for the nfs community with the playlist and shit. ofc the mod handling feels better but the vanilla update is a big W for the community.
Personally I appreciate both modded and the new vanilla handling because now people who are on console have drifting that feels better than what it was at launch but there’s always room for improvement
Your mod is what gives us a reason to play the game. Sure, it has a learning curve but when you get it right, you don't want to go back to vanilla handling. Big thanks for putting in the 2000+ hours of time and effort to make the game great for us drift nuts.
The New Drift Model Really Just Need To Be Faster In My Opinion, I Think Drift Also Needs To Look More Wild Than Just The Car Sliding Since Yes It's "Realistic" But Like! It's A Video Game Why Not Make It More Fun And Wild.
I noticed that vanilla drifting still feels kinda "safe" and you can't hit wide angles as hard as in the mod. Also not enough people mention it but the custom camera work on your mod looks hard as fuck
The vanilla physics is basically just awd drifting. Exactly what Ken block did, it’s not really drifting but more of power sliding. The wheels literally locking the opposite direction is what real drifting looks like. It’s not really that big of a deal but it feels better and it’s satisfying to watch. Thanks for your work 🫡
Sure i think everyone here prefers the mod by a landslide, but the vanilla physics arent bad anymore, they're actually enjoyable! It's great news for NFS, or well atleast the console people. We will always have our beloved mods lol
EVEN THOUGH idont have the game and the mode but i can see your great work on it the way it works to perfect this skill is pretty realistic i like how do you do it no matter what people say keep the great work
@@hayeduce not to mention there's like literally only one guy doing the handling at the Kaizen team. It's not that they don't want to, its more of EA screwing with developers and the community.
I always wondered why do game companies don't contact modders like Hayeduce and pay them to use their mod in their official game or hire them to work as full time developers?We all know money is not the issue then why don't they do it?
The skillset of a modder does not always align with the skillset of a developer. And its bold to assume that money is not an issue, the team working on NFS is very small now, so hiring people would not be cheap.
You mods look amazing, i would love to try them. But currently i only see the nfs heat one (dont own that gmae). And that the unbound one has been removed for over 5 months. Will at ever come back? All love !
the vanilla version doesn't even feel like a drift it's true that they made the drifting better than what it used to be like but even the new version isn't good the car just slides and you never steer to the oposit direction like it should just like the drifting physics in the crew 2 they improved it just to be like what the crew used to be
The new vanilla handling also has its own new camera similar to the mod, but there aint no camera in this world that could make those front wheels point the right direction
@@prodshisvi thats hard to answer because we dont know how close they came to their own goals. But from what i can see, they created 5 new tire assets that control the drift pro tires, each with 156 parameters. Most of those are there to turn off the brake to drift physics, but not all of it, some fake things are still activated past 50 degrees of angle. About 70 parameters modify the base tire physics to be how it is below that angle. About 10 more control the new camera. About 3 parameters also turn off self-steer completely, so that was on purpose. About half of all these parameters were not exposed to the physics file before, but i dont know what it takes to make them available with the tools they have, it could have involved coding but if so, it was probably done by an engineer, not by the handling designer anyway. To me it seems that their goal was to go for an underground 2 feel. The problem is, that handling is outdated imo, kept alive only by nostalgia. If their goal was to make it more believable, then they didnt try hard enough imo. There are also some bugs/flaws in their tire code which i could fix with the help of a friend who knows how to hack and reverse engineer. They didnt do anything about those, tho it would have taken less then 10 minutes for them cuz i literally only changed 10 lines of their code.
@@hayeduce feel ya, i think if the devs would add that the tires always steer to the opposite site, so it looks like in your mod and more like a drift and not like a powerslide it would be muuuch better. Im wondering that they dont get in touch with modders ... anyways great job!
Too bad your mod handles like ass for most people, every one I seen mention it says it looks awesome but it handles like ass. Hardly anyone is gonna stick with it long enough to get this good. Too bad the devs can't figure out how to just give the look of counter steering. Have you reached out to them to tell them how you made it? Cause the new vanilla handling is super easy to drive it just looks wrong. if we can get a combination of your automatic counter steering visuals with the handling of the new vanilla physics, then it would be perfect.
If they needed anything from me they would have reached out on their own already. Im not here for the numbers btw, enough ppl stuck around with the mod already to make that 2000hrs worth :D Idk why some ppl struggle with it. The ones i helped myself learned it in less then a day. It might be worth looking at CrayG's videos with the mod, he also learned it alone pretty quickly
Black or white? Clouds or sunshine?
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Vanilla or modded?
Modded anyday
Modded ❤❤❤
modded always, but is a huge step in the right way for Criterion to match this kind of Physics that the comunity always want since nfs 2015... Imagine how happy with this are the console players :)
i love your mod, as always.. BUT the vanilla handling is some refreshing update for the nfs community with the playlist and shit. ofc the mod handling feels better but the vanilla update is a big W for the community.
Personally I appreciate both modded and the new vanilla handling because now people who are on console have drifting that feels better than what it was at launch but there’s always room for improvement
Your mod is what gives us a reason to play the game. Sure, it has a learning curve but when you get it right, you don't want to go back to vanilla handling. Big thanks for putting in the 2000+ hours of time and effort to make the game great for us drift nuts.
Thanks! It means a lot.
The New Drift Model Really Just Need To Be Faster In My Opinion, I Think Drift Also Needs To Look More Wild Than Just The Car Sliding Since Yes It's "Realistic" But Like! It's A Video Game Why Not Make It More Fun And Wild.
I noticed that vanilla drifting still feels kinda "safe" and you can't hit wide angles as hard as in the mod.
Also not enough people mention it but the custom camera work on your mod looks hard as fuck
Yeah. Many thanks to @jc_jdm for the camera mod
its AWD
@@emanh4keem_san420 its not, it just appears to be
This mod. Right here mod takes the W. The transition and countersteer is perfect.
The vanilla physics is basically just awd drifting. Exactly what Ken block did, it’s not really drifting but more of power sliding. The wheels literally locking the opposite direction is what real drifting looks like. It’s not really that big of a deal but it feels better and it’s satisfying to watch. Thanks for your work 🫡
Sick video my g, I hope they use your mod and give you credits.
They should hire you to be their second handling editor
Sure i think everyone here prefers the mod by a landslide, but the vanilla physics arent bad anymore, they're actually enjoyable! It's great news for NFS, or well atleast the console people. We will always have our beloved mods lol
This mod is so sick, if you're on PC you have to give it a try!
EVEN THOUGH idont have the game and the mode but i can see your great work on it the way it works to perfect this skill is pretty realistic i like how do you do it no matter what people say keep the great work
The action camera for the mod is super nice.
Best drift mod ad.
It’s just not even close but they tried 💫 #driftmodFTW
ur mods are still a goat
Best drift mod ever!! 🔥🔥
2:09 You must be the first hitting the civilian in the game lol
Bro couldnt handle the mod 😂
how do I get this camera for 2015?
From @jc-jdm's discord server
nice job duce
The mod is way better than the V7 update, I wish content creators like @blackpanthaa would shed more light on this
He tried, he said its too hard
insane
i dont understand how hard it is for literal game devs to do what you do
Im sure they could do it. They probably just dont want to. They have their own idea of how drifting should be.
@@hayeduce not to mention there's like literally only one guy doing the handling at the Kaizen team.
It's not that they don't want to, its more of EA screwing with developers and the community.
I always wondered why do game companies don't contact modders like Hayeduce and pay them to use their mod in their official game or hire them to work as full time developers?We all know money is not the issue then why don't they do it?
The skillset of a modder does not always align with the skillset of a developer. And its bold to assume that money is not an issue, the team working on NFS is very small now, so hiring people would not be cheap.
You mods look amazing, i would love to try them.
But currently i only see the nfs heat one (dont own that gmae). And that the unbound one has been removed for over 5 months.
Will at ever come back? All love !
@@lauritzpetemolderup3556 hey! Join the Slidewinders discord, the mod is posted there.
@@hayeduce w brother
the vanilla version doesn't even feel like a drift it's true that they made the drifting better than what it used to be like but even the new version isn't good the car just slides and you never steer to the oposit direction like it should just like the drifting physics in the crew 2 they improved it just to be like what the crew used to be
Shame that it’s not as dialled-in but for what it’s worth, it’s pretty good.
Yeah could be worse i guess
Is it worth checking this mod out on wheel?
Unbound, no. On Heat, yes!
@@hayeduce thx for answering
The truth!
does this mod happen to work well with wheel?
@@SimpleManMike on Unbound no, on Heat yes!
@@hayeduce ah shit I just bought unbound just for this lol
Tbh mod are look sick for who can handle it
But vanilla is more playeble for newbie
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does it work on ps4?
@@Notcvetko no
This benz is one of the worst cars in the new handling, you should try the s14, s15 or brz.
lol he's the one who made the drift mod, what are you on?
i tried many, they all feel the same haha
hard to tell with moded camera, it would make vanilla look hella decent
The new vanilla handling also has its own new camera similar to the mod, but there aint no camera in this world that could make those front wheels point the right direction
@@hayeduce its not that bad as in 2015 doe
@@hayeduce can i ask
how hard they tried with it in ur opinion, or it is just lazy work with numbers tweaking?
@@prodshisvi thats hard to answer because we dont know how close they came to their own goals.
But from what i can see, they created 5 new tire assets that control the drift pro tires, each with 156 parameters. Most of those are there to turn off the brake to drift physics, but not all of it, some fake things are still activated past 50 degrees of angle. About 70 parameters modify the base tire physics to be how it is below that angle. About 10 more control the new camera. About 3 parameters also turn off self-steer completely, so that was on purpose.
About half of all these parameters were not exposed to the physics file before, but i dont know what it takes to make them available with the tools they have, it could have involved coding but if so, it was probably done by an engineer, not by the handling designer anyway.
To me it seems that their goal was to go for an underground 2 feel. The problem is, that handling is outdated imo, kept alive only by nostalgia.
If their goal was to make it more believable, then they didnt try hard enough imo. There are also some bugs/flaws in their tire code which i could fix with the help of a friend who knows how to hack and reverse engineer. They didnt do anything about those, tho it would have taken less then 10 minutes for them cuz i literally only changed 10 lines of their code.
@@hayeduce i see, much appreciate this in-depth answer man 🙏
Is it just me or the invite link is fucked?
Works for me
So sad that devs have no idea what they're doing... Hire the modders already and make nfs great again
the main flaws with vanilla less angle, low speed, and camera angle yuck
Im okay with the camera actually
The cringe part is, you dont even need "new tires" for this mod
There are downsides tho. The race handling cannot be used, but im trying to work on that.
@@hayeduce feel ya, i think if the devs would add that the tires always steer to the opposite site, so it looks like in your mod and more like a drift and not like a powerslide it would be muuuch better. Im wondering that they dont get in touch with modders ... anyways great job!
Firsttt
can tell the game is clearly not made for that, looks awful
Not made for what?
@@hayeduce drifting
Too bad your mod handles like ass for most people, every one I seen mention it says it looks awesome but it handles like ass. Hardly anyone is gonna stick with it long enough to get this good. Too bad the devs can't figure out how to just give the look of counter steering. Have you reached out to them to tell them how you made it? Cause the new vanilla handling is super easy to drive it just looks wrong. if we can get a combination of your automatic counter steering visuals with the handling of the new vanilla physics, then it would be perfect.
If they needed anything from me they would have reached out on their own already.
Im not here for the numbers btw, enough ppl stuck around with the mod already to make that 2000hrs worth :D
Idk why some ppl struggle with it. The ones i helped myself learned it in less then a day.
It might be worth looking at CrayG's videos with the mod, he also learned it alone pretty quickly
Vanilla drift is so overrated
Right…
It could be worse but yeah
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