I was a small kid in Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada and shopping in "Safeway" in the early 80s with my dad. I remember being in the cookies isle and there I saw "Bjorn Borg Cookies". What a big worldwide name this man was, to have his cookies from Europe in a small town in Winnipeg. Amazing. I remember it clearly.
Borg used to have a 2 hander on the take-back and a 1 hander on the release. Now it's 2 hander all the way. That's a pity. Iconic and one of a kind groundstroke.
Courier has never been in a discussion of being the GOAT. That's how much better Borg has been. Total dominator of an era, GOAT status, revolutionized how people played, how tennis was perceived, even down to shot mechanics, he was 30 years ahead. Thats a stark difference. If it wasn't for the crazyness of their period, he would have played a half dozen more season winning twice as much.
@DjJoeee Yeah... they turned tennis into a one dimensional sport. The other guy mentioned racquet technology.... that certainly played a role, but so did the development in string technology allowing for more topspin and thus harder and more tightly angled shots. To top it off, they slowed the court surfaces down making it more advantageous to wait for the ball to bounce. For me the 80s were the best... when all styles could compete on equal footing.
I have seen Borg playing since he left the tour. What a surprise ! he changed his backhand . Borg used to have a « fake » twohands backhand. After impact he used to use only the right arm . Now he has a real standard backhand. This is probably due to the evolution of the equipment.
Creo que perfectamente como tu lo dices estaría dentro de los 5 primeros del mundo con un entrenamiento actual con la tecnología de las Raquetas actuales, sin duda sería uno de los grandes
@@overkongen34 Guiding, sure, but too loose of a grip on that hand to add power. FAR different from an Agassi type two hander where both hands generated power on the backhand.
No, not just relatively. I said "ever" and that's no joke. He may not possess the ability to produce tremendous pace but that's only because he was limited by the technology of the time. The game has definitely notched up in terms of pace and athleticism but not in a wide margin you claim it has.
Borg was 54 here and using a modern racket playing a 40 year old Courier who didn't exactly tap the ball and the older man held his own which to me proves that if he were playing today he would have been able to compete just fine.
Strange pairing. They were really from different eras, not contemporaries. One thing was weird. In his heyday, Bjorn would let go of the top hand on his backhand quickly. This time he hung on like most 2 handers do.
JoeyASRV. If you believe even for a second that Nadal in his prime would easily defeat Agassi in his prime, then you are delusional. Agassi would have a very competitive record vs. Nadal if they played a series of matches against each other in their prime on a variety of surfaces.
Fourteen years difference in age and Bjorn only lost 7/6 in the second. Courier was not taking it easy. Watch when he lost a shot, he was not happy. Tennis players do not give away points in singles. Maybe they run a little flat in bullshit doubles.
Would be fun if they both played with wooden rackets. I think Courier with his grip would not even get the ball over the net. 6-0, 6-0 to Borg. Add to that the faster old courts.
Honestly It was a good match but I didn't like Courier acting so fired up all the time. Borg is almost 15 years older than him and still playing great.
This isn't me romanticizing the past. Given an equal playing field (ie graphite rackets with modern polys and 90s court surface(s)) Agassi would have punished Nadal's balls. Agassi was able to take a set from Nadal in Montreal seven years ago, when he was 35!
@@alexestrada1788 Do you want to know what he saved him from? From drugs, with Borg submerged and penniless. Guillermo, who was his best friend, got hold of him, and they started touring and exhibiting in various cities, obviously starting with Buenos Aires.
sometimes (most of the time in fact), it's better to be GREAT at one thing, than it is to be average at a bunch of things. It will get you further on the court, and in life. There are a lot of "all courters" who never broke top 200. There are a lot of "computer wiz's" who never became Bill Gates. There are a lot of "all round" basketball players who never had the power of Shaq. But the great one's do ONE thing GREAT, and that's what makes them champions. Unless you're name is Federer :-)
You're kidding right? Borg was known to be one of *the* fastest players ever. His speed in his prime would rival at least Ferrer's if not Nadal's. And Agassi would totally kill Nadal in his prime.
@ JoeyASRV. For you to write that there is evidence to suggest that Nadal would cream Agassi if they played against each other in their prime clearly demonstrates that you are totally clueless when it comes to evaluating the tennis of today compared to the tennis of previous generations. The level of tennis that John McEnroe played in 1984, that Connors played in the mid-1970's (especially 1974), that Becker played in 1989 and at the Australian Open in 1991, that Sampras played from 1993-1996, that Laver played during the 1960's (especially 1969), and that Edberg played from 1988-1991 (especially at the US Open in 1991 and 1992) was a much higher and greater level of tennis than the tennis of the current group of top players on the men's tennis tour. The all-time great players of the past demonstrated much greater diversity in their tennis skills than the current generation of top players. The current generation of top players are one-dimensional baseline grinders/bashers who never serve-and-volley and never show any touch or finesse in their games. In addition, you fail to provide one single shred of evidence to support your absurd assertion that Nadal in his prime would easily defeat Agassi in his prime. In that regard you possess the same flaw as the news media in that you make bold, assertive comments while failing to provide any evidence to support your argument.
That's the dumbest tennis assessment I've read on YT. You are utterly clueless, clearly hit by nostalgia. The current top players have all the shots, whereas former greats all had major weaknesses. Agassi: net game. McEnroe: baseline consistency, not a great forehand. Edberg: embarrassing continental grip forehand. Becker: movement, baseline consistency. Sampras: inconsistent from the baseline, often average on clay, backhand attackable.
7Lukibi99Tore7 Did you just copy-paste the initial comment again? I couldn't be bothered to read your nonsense, so that's why I ask. Clearly you're insane, I see George Orwell's name in your comment. Was he a perfect tennis pro too?
You are totally idiot. Saying that previously players are better than todays players is stupid. If you just put two videos side by side, you will see immediately, that in the past ball is fly 40-50 cm above net, They play very slow, often using slice, while today, ball is going only 10-15 cm above of net. Next, you have to calculate number of shots, and you will see, while old players shot 10 shots, today they will shot 15 shots at the same time. John Mcnroe has a serve of 109 M/h while today players easily serve 140 M/h. Today tennis is better in every ways.
zoran knezevic, you have no idea what you are talking about, especially the part where you write about ball heights over the net in respective eras. Things are far less black and white in that regard, (the varitation has always been present, resulting in certain span in the height of the ball over the net in all eras, and also having to do with what type of shot is played, or hit, is it a all agressive, flattened ball or the so called rally-ball, usually hit with more margin, or slice, and also depending on individual style of play ) and technique on the serve was (among the top players) better before than of the most top players today, with some notable exceptions. (Fed, to some extent, Raonic, to name the few). Calling people idiots is also a nice way to "open" the conversation.
Simpy, go and see on youtube analieses of Mats Vilander about a mach between Jimmy Connors and Artur Ash. Vimbledon final 1975 and you will see how they was played .
Very cool to see Borg smile and have fun on court :)
I was a small kid in Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada and shopping in "Safeway" in the early 80s with my dad. I remember being in the cookies isle and there I saw "Bjorn Borg Cookies". What a big worldwide name this man was, to have his cookies from Europe in a small town in Winnipeg. Amazing. I remember it clearly.
Borg with those great foot steps and solid ground strokes.. the way he moves man.. now I know why he won 11 grand slams.
And how many times did he make it to the finals and lose? At least 5? Along with the 11 wins, that's extremely impressive.
I could watch these legends all day long.
Two gentlemen greats of tennis. Jim was probably happy just shaking Borgs hand and getting a pic with him.
Borg used to have a 2 hander on the take-back and a 1 hander on the release. Now it's 2 hander all the way. That's a pity. Iconic and one of a kind groundstroke.
Bjorn Borg, legend, man. the guy looks pretty old but his skill is still impressive.
For Borgs age, he looks great and played incredibly well. Hes in his 50s here I think.
55 exactly
Nice to see Borg smiling and pumping his fist after a winner.
Courier has never been in a discussion of being the GOAT. That's how much better Borg has been. Total dominator of an era, GOAT status, revolutionized how people played, how tennis was perceived, even down to shot mechanics, he was 30 years ahead. Thats a stark difference. If it wasn't for the crazyness of their period, he would have played a half dozen more season winning twice as much.
@DjJoeee
Yeah... they turned tennis into a one dimensional sport.
The other guy mentioned racquet technology.... that certainly played a role, but so did the development in string technology allowing for more topspin and thus harder and more tightly angled shots. To top it off, they slowed the court surfaces down making it more advantageous to wait for the ball to bounce.
For me the 80s were the best... when all styles could compete on equal footing.
os anos 80 realmente foram melhores em tudo, principalmente na música!
Thank you, that made my day:)
love these 2 guys
Whyt the irritating " music" ?
Nice to see Borg smile!! Hope Leo will do him proud again 👍
I have seen Borg playing since he left the tour. What a surprise ! he changed his backhand . Borg used to have a « fake » twohands backhand. After impact he used to use only the right arm . Now he has a real standard backhand. This is probably due to the evolution of the equipment.
Yes, his old racket was heavy. He did release well after impact so it was still a twohander. Same thing with Wilander.
I noticed Borg hits his two handed backhand differently than when he played in the 70s, and 80s.
His age and advanced racquet tech forced his style to change. But he is still my Idol
Seems to hit more like a 2 handers, back then he let the left hand go
Imagine borg born in this era. He could have been one of the big 4
No.1🏆💪
Creo que perfectamente como tu lo dices estaría dentro de los 5 primeros del mundo con un entrenamiento actual con la tecnología de las Raquetas actuales, sin duda sería uno de los grandes
Not could of, would of
Why the afwfull hardrock?
Borg only lost because he did not wear his trademark headband. 😆
Borg in his prime was a much better player than Courier was in his prime.
well...DUH
Talk about the bleeding obvious, borgtard.
not true
They were both number 1 players in the world, at one time. He was not THAT much better.
@@theoriginalthinker9199 Yeah, he really was.
Borg's backhand is a materspiece, but he used to release his left hand
Yes that's correct, it looked fantastic back then.
Always felt Borgs release cost him some power, which I think was fine, but might have helped against McEnroe.
@@chocolatetownforever7537 It didn't. He released well after impact. The left hand was still the guiding hand in the shot.
@@overkongen34 Guiding, sure, but too loose of a grip on that hand to add power.
FAR different from an Agassi type two hander where both hands generated power on the backhand.
@@chocolatetownforever7537 He did not lose power because he let go well after impact. The ball kinda already left the racket at that point.
Having some good times👍❤️
No, not just relatively. I said "ever" and that's no joke. He may not possess the ability to produce tremendous pace but that's only because he was limited by the technology of the time. The game has definitely notched up in terms of pace and athleticism but not in a wide margin you claim it has.
Great stuff!!
The Music...why????
For masculine Courier's power style 🤗
Courier using the ncode 90?
Yes, soon later he turned to the Donnay x red 99.
Borg was 54 here and using a modern racket playing a 40 year old Courier who didn't exactly tap the ball and the older man held his own which to me proves that if he were playing today he would have been able to compete just fine.
So cool !
Nothing against Jim Courier, but his most notable and memorable wins were against aging superstars.
uma diferença enorme de idade! não achei legal! mas é sempre bom ver essa lenda em quadra!
If Borg had only had a modern racket and learned to use it his first comeback would have been a huge success.
these days you hardly see people run straight towards the net, it's more baseline play nowadays
Note how borg bh has become more standard no late release less topspin than that super bh of old
for a guy that old borg can still hit well
BB with Dunlop, wow!
Borg at his top would have won Courier top
duh
Strange pairing. They were really from different eras, not contemporaries. One thing was weird. In his heyday, Bjorn would let go of the top hand on his backhand quickly. This time he hung on like most 2 handers do.
Courier's forehand is beautiful.
JoeyASRV. If you believe even for a second that Nadal in his prime would easily defeat Agassi in his prime, then you are delusional. Agassi would have a very competitive record vs. Nadal if they played a series of matches against each other in their prime on a variety of surfaces.
agree. Andre's return of serve was amazing
Annoying music.
Agreed. The music was incongruous and unnecessary.
agreed.
Courier would win my club championship.
Fourteen years difference in age and Bjorn only lost 7/6 in the second.
Courier was not taking it easy. Watch when he lost a shot, he was not happy.
Tennis players do not give away points in singles.
Maybe they run a little flat in bullshit doubles.
Yeah, quality tennis.
Courier playing with a N-Code?
Courier hits harder and is younger. Big advantage.
Would be fun if they both played with wooden rackets. I think Courier with his grip would not even get the ball over the net. 6-0, 6-0 to Borg. Add to that the faster old courts.
This is like Wrestling.. To show the people what they want to see. Borg would not win a game when Courier is playing his aggressive style.
Omg! You poor bastard.
Hard rock background track .... !?!?! SERIOUSLY? Is that what it takes to bait in the "youngsters"? unbelievable.
💞💞💞💯👍🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪BJORN BORG
i just can believe borg could win 1 game against courier
Honestly It was a good match but I didn't like Courier acting so fired up all the time. Borg is almost 15 years older than him and still playing great.
This isn't me romanticizing the past. Given an equal playing field (ie graphite rackets with modern polys and 90s court surface(s)) Agassi would have punished Nadal's balls. Agassi was able to take a set from Nadal in Montreal seven years ago, when he was 35!
Roger Federer is 36 and he took all 3 sets from guy wich is 21 years old, and no one young player can beat him.
Exhibition tennis!
Love the background music
I hope you're being sarcastic.
Presque 30 ans,après son retrait de la compétition
Borg would definitely win my club championship tournament.
Once a pro ,always a pro
What does that mean?
@@bonhamhouse1169it’s simple really
Gracias a Vilas, Borg pudo rehacer su vida. Gullermo lo salvó
How did Guillermo save Bjorn? I'm a fan of Vilas as well. Just trying to understand your comment.
@@alexestrada1788 Do you want to know what he saved him from? From drugs, with Borg submerged and penniless. Guillermo, who was his best friend, got hold of him, and they started touring and exhibiting in various cities, obviously starting with Buenos Aires.
What??
sometimes (most of the time in fact), it's better to be GREAT at one thing, than it is to be average at a bunch of things. It will get you further on the court, and in life. There are a lot of "all courters" who never broke top 200. There are a lot of "computer wiz's" who never became Bill Gates. There are a lot of "all round" basketball players who never had the power of Shaq. But the great one's do ONE thing GREAT, and that's what makes them champions. Unless you're name is Federer :-)
Borg is more talented than Jim,more compete player,anyway both great.
Not bad for 54 years...(But) We'd all love to know how a 23 year old Borg would fare against a 23 year old Courier.
Borg would win in straight sets
Great tennis. Shite music.
You're kidding right? Borg was known to be one of *the* fastest players ever. His speed in his prime would rival at least Ferrer's if not Nadal's.
And Agassi would totally kill Nadal in his prime.
Who is Ferrer?
Courier can still kick ass on tour if he wanted to.
Courier is taking it easy on Björn. Otherwise it would be a rather short and boring match.
nah he was going all out bjorn is still a great player
Absolutly not...for one reason, respect to Borg
Borg,plus vieux que courrier
If they have one set matches. I am sure Bjorn can beat many top 100 players. Especially with the over sized, over efficient racket too.
Meh at best...
@ JoeyASRV. For you to write that there is evidence to suggest that Nadal would cream Agassi if they played against each other in their prime clearly demonstrates that you are totally clueless when it comes to evaluating the tennis of today compared to the tennis of previous generations. The level of tennis that John McEnroe played in 1984, that Connors played in the mid-1970's (especially 1974), that Becker played in 1989 and at the Australian Open in 1991, that Sampras played from 1993-1996, that Laver played during the 1960's (especially 1969), and that Edberg played from 1988-1991 (especially at the US Open in 1991 and 1992) was a much higher and greater level of tennis than the tennis of the current group of top players on the men's tennis tour. The all-time great players of the past demonstrated much greater diversity in their tennis skills than the current generation of top players. The current generation of top players are one-dimensional baseline grinders/bashers who never serve-and-volley and never show any touch or finesse in their games. In addition, you fail to provide one single shred of evidence to support your absurd assertion that Nadal in his prime would easily defeat Agassi in his prime. In that regard you possess the same flaw as the news media in that you make bold, assertive comments while failing to provide any evidence to support your argument.
That's the dumbest tennis assessment I've read on YT. You are utterly clueless, clearly hit by nostalgia. The current top players have all the shots, whereas former greats all had major weaknesses.
Agassi: net game.
McEnroe: baseline consistency, not a great forehand.
Edberg: embarrassing continental grip forehand.
Becker: movement, baseline consistency.
Sampras: inconsistent from the baseline, often average on clay, backhand attackable.
7Lukibi99Tore7
Did you just copy-paste the initial comment again? I couldn't be bothered to read your nonsense, so that's why I ask. Clearly you're insane, I see George Orwell's name in your comment.
Was he a perfect tennis pro too?
You are totally idiot. Saying that previously players are better than todays players is stupid. If you just put two videos side by side, you will see immediately, that in the past ball is fly 40-50 cm above net, They play very slow, often using slice, while today, ball is going only 10-15 cm above of net. Next, you have to calculate number of shots, and you will see, while old players shot 10 shots, today they will shot 15 shots at the same time. John Mcnroe has a serve of 109 M/h while today players easily serve 140 M/h. Today tennis is better in every ways.
zoran knezevic, you have no idea what you are talking about, especially the part where you write about ball heights over the net in respective eras.
Things are far less black and white in that regard, (the varitation has always been present, resulting in certain span in the height of the ball over the net in all eras, and also having to do with what type of shot is played, or hit, is it a all agressive, flattened ball or the so called rally-ball, usually hit with more margin, or slice, and also depending on individual style of play ) and technique on the serve was (among the top players) better before than of the most top players today, with some notable exceptions. (Fed, to some extent, Raonic, to name the few).
Calling people idiots is also a nice way to "open" the conversation.
Simpy, go and see on youtube analieses of Mats Vilander about a mach between Jimmy Connors and Artur Ash. Vimbledon final 1975 and you will see how they was played .