Souls Mechanics explained: why grab attacks sometimes merely stagger

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 พ.ค. 2024

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  • @Domo3000
    @Domo3000  หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    As far as I can tell this is how it works in DS1 and DS2, but DS3 works differently - which is why Dancer can sometimes grab a whole coop team at the same time.

    • @Battleguild
      @Battleguild หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Double grabs happen in Elden Ring as well.

  • @andrixproto46
    @andrixproto46 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    So for example, if the pursuer does the grab attack on a coop alley and it accidentally hits you instead you get staggered and not grabbed?

    • @Domo3000
      @Domo3000  หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      I couldn't find a video, but yes that's what should happen.
      In DS3 it works differently and you can find plenty of videos of Dancer grabbing the host and summon at the same time, but I've never seen a video of that happening in DS1 or DS2.

  • @frazfrazfrazfraz
    @frazfrazfrazfraz หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Grabs can also fail to complete if there's not enough room (presumably for the animation)
    This is probably easiest to replicate against covetous demon, by staying in the little doorway cubby where you enter from the fog wall. If you back up as much as possible, right up against the fog wall, the grab shouldn't connect
    This can also happen with other bosses when you're backed up against walls or something similar. Rotten's grab can fail to connect next to a wall if there's a rock outcropping overhead in a specific spot, and i think Aava's grab fails next to a wall too

    • @Domo3000
      @Domo3000  หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      That's interesting. I always try to fight in the middle of the room so I never noticed that.

    • @frazfrazfrazfraz
      @frazfrazfrazfraz หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Domo3000 I usually do too, I didn't find out until my overencumbered run where it wasn't always viable to dodge attacks
      Ironically, covetous demon's grab is effectively a one shot kill on an overencumbered run because it takes so long to put everything back on before you can do anything again, so I had to find a way to avoid that lol

  • @FlexSPJ
    @FlexSPJ หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I request a ds1 iron golem grab attack compilation to change your mind about your favorite grab attack

  • @FlexSPJ
    @FlexSPJ หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Just for clarification, how does the AI "focus" on a player? I thought focusing and locking on should be the same but they clearly aren't since the AI can turn away from the player whilst being focused on that player. Is this another way of targeting a player or did they replace the traditional lock-on with the version shown in the video for bosses?

  • @zubroskadamien5883
    @zubroskadamien5883 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Amazing trick ! Well done !😊

  • @BdrRm
    @BdrRm หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Still didn't understand 😅 isn't the bosses locked on to you by default?

    • @Domo3000
      @Domo3000  หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      Yes, but not always. They can lose the lock-on similar to how you can lose it, like if Lost Sinner jumps behind you or enemies get too far away. They just constantly try to set it back on again.
      For the mimic grab you could sneak up on them from behind to get them to do the attack without them having lock-on enabled yet. For the Gaping Dragon he usually does it as his first attack, but I ran in too fast and he does the animation at the beginning and only afterwards sets lock-on, but at that point I've already been on his side and he could not lock on.

  • @thickveinysausage3062
    @thickveinysausage3062 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I couldn't get it to work with alonne's grab but pursuer's grab won't work if your back is against a wall and he's also close to the wall. Same goes for covetous demon and most other grabs.

  • @user-qd5lb7qr8z
    @user-qd5lb7qr8z หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    But... how does that work for solo playing? Because sometimes when I strafe left in the Pursuer's grab (and 50% of the time I manage to avoid it), he just staggers me. On what or who is he locking on to?!

    • @Betsujin
      @Betsujin หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      And at this moment you realized - you just ordinary NPC hollow. He was focusing on main character entering the arena behind you.

  • @AtreyusNinja
    @AtreyusNinja หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Interesting

  • @oskarszile4372
    @oskarszile4372 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yo make a video about duble clicking and greatsword aim on ds 2

  • @abrahamrangel2326
    @abrahamrangel2326 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This explains why ds3 and elden ring life steal often only staggers with some damage and no grab?

  • @Bossu
    @Bossu หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh, how about the Demon of Song attacks?
    Are those hitboxes any outrageous?

    • @Domo3000
      @Domo3000  หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I will show them once I tackle the Asmongold video where he makes fun of someone that likes DS2.
      At one point Asmongold shows the player being directly inside of the hand and then complains about broken hitboxes, because he's apparently blind.

    • @Bossu
      @Bossu หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Domo3000 Ah yeah, i've seen him comparing DS2 to CBT.

    • @goncalocarneiro3043
      @goncalocarneiro3043 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Domo3000You should make a separate, short video showcasing the hitboxes anyhow. It's more convenient to show people a short video than to give them a time-point in a longer video because people are lazy.

  • @anuragj1410
    @anuragj1410 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How did u control the bosses? Debug or is it a mod?

    • @Domo3000
      @Domo3000  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      DebugManager by LordRadai

    • @anuragj1410
      @anuragj1410 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Domo3000 for ds2?

  • @HandleIsNewAndBad
    @HandleIsNewAndBad หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dark Souls games are on a heavy discount right now. With Dark Souls 2, is it pointless to buy the vanilla + SOTFS versions? The vanilla version gets overwritten, is that correct?
    I'm wishing I could try both on the same account/pc.

    • @macalvand
      @macalvand หลายเดือนก่อน

      What are you talking about? They're completely separate titles on Steam, you can own both at the same time.

    • @HandleIsNewAndBad
      @HandleIsNewAndBad หลายเดือนก่อน

      Isn't there a purchase that upgrades the Vanilla version to SOTFS?

    • @macalvand
      @macalvand หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@HandleIsNewAndBad Only for the 360 and PS3 versions, but said "upgrade" is just all three DLC bundled together and doesn't update the enemy or item placements. It's mildly deceptive consoletard crap that doesn't exist on the PC version, where you just buy vanilla + season pass (if desired) and/or SOTFS

    • @HandleIsNewAndBad
      @HandleIsNewAndBad หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@macalvand All right, thanks for clearing that up. Only an hour or so before sales ends!