I would like to mention Aldrich is just as bad as Sulyvahn. Aldrich is the only character in the entire Souls franchise to commit infanticide, he takes a sadistic enjoyment in eating people alive, invaded Anor Londo and devoured Gywndolin for his powers, and intended to bring about the Age of Deep, which was much worse than the Age of Dark because all will suffer in it.
My brother in Christmas. HE STARTED A FUCKING BLOOD CULT BASED ON KILLING AND DRAINING BLOOD. The fact that He was brainwashed to kidnap an underaged femboy doesn't contridict the thing above.
Tbf it’s unlikely that Mogh didn’t know about miquellas plan, since I don’t think the formless mother would allow him to be manipulated by Miquella, and with miquella not having any unalloyed gold to stop the mothers influence. It’s more likely that mogh kidnapped miquella to Crete his dynasty and miquella saw it as something he could use
You are giving way to much credit to how all knowing God's are in Elden Ring (our Fromsoft games in general). The golden order stomped through both Pale Queen and Fire Giants despite them both having knowledge and power given to them by their own gods. Bloodborne and Demon Souls basically involve the player potentially manipulating or killing their games gods. Fromsoft seems to like letting people from the living world fight and struggle against God's ambitions.
All the other horrible stuff Mohg did to the albuinarics and the white masks he kidnapped and tortured into insanity? Like Miquella just used him to escape he did all that other stuff on his own.
@@amadhollow635 If Mohg chose to learn any other magic, he still would have been strong. The way I understand the descriptions of blood incantations, Mohg created them and one must be skillful to do that. He is using the formless Mother's blood as base, but that's how magic works in elden ring. Glintstone sorcerers also use the power of glintstone and don't create it out of nothing. Holy magic is also created from the golden order, right? Radagon and Morgott don't create their own holy energy, but channel a power that is already there. I see it similar to a water bender from Avatar. They need water as a base to even fight, but still need their own skill to properly use, what is already there.
To be fair, Melania and Miquella are clearly stronger, with Melania being much stronger in game. Radahn is heavily degraded when we meet him. Morgott is similar in power, but doesn’t have an entire outer god carrying him through the fight. Mohg in phase 1 is easier than most demigods, it’s only after blood mommy comes in that he’s a problem
@Nameandaddresswithheld I think Mohg is the demigod closest to Malenia. When TH-camrs have pitted them against each other he's one of the only bosses in the game who can really contend with her. His bleed spells seem uniquely suited to beat her.
Manus is an interesting case because it’s some normal Pygmy pilgrim from the Ringed City. He’s less a villain and more a force of nature provoked to madness.
I don't know if the story i know about him is correct, but he wasn't even evil at all, he took care of a human civilization while they were growing up, and didn't even tried to harm someone, he was tortured to release his dark soul power and that ended the way it ended (i don't know if he was still councious in that point in time). And if it had been up to him, he would just have waited until win failed and the age of darkness came naturally so that humans could live in it. Yeah, he wasn't a hero, but i don't think he was a villain either
@@santiagoteruel4145 Dark Souls III tells us that Manus was once a human who traveled to Oolacile as a form of pilgrimage. He died there and was buried. A primordial serpent (presumably Kaathe) tricked the Oolacile residents to dig him up, revive him, and experiment on him. This experimentation reduced him to his primal desires and he wanted nothing more than an amulet which symbolized… something, for him. But the people of Oolacile took that from him too, so he went berserk and fathered the Abyss
@@blizzardgaming7070 that does make sense as Gwyn was the one that imprisoned the pygmies with lies and trickery. Manus probably didn't even realize he was doing exactly what Gwyn worked hard to stop, leaving the ringed city.
That dumb ass tree on the right wall of the arena perfectly situated to get you caught rolling on it is as responsible for that fight being shitty imo.
one correction, gideon near the end has a realization that even he couldn't possibly become the elden lord, and stands in your way to put you out of your misery believing you couldn't do it either
True, I don’t think he deserves to be on the list to begin with given that there’s far more evil characters then him. How is Gideon on the list when there’s selivus who basically makes puppets of woman by taking their control over their bodies and then ra p.. them. That’s far more evil than Gideon especially since his plan was to make a puppet out of a demi god who had the potential to become a god (ranni) and then do even more messed up stuff once he has the power to
As strange as it may sound, I don’t think he ever wanted to become Elden Lord. It was only a lie he told Nepheli to keep her close. Having to rule and bring stability to the Lands between would only distract him from his knowledge-searching. That’s why he starts helping us after we beat Ensha. We proved that we’re strong enough to make a legitimate claim for the Elden Ring, so why don’t just let us inherit both the title and the cumbersome responsibility that comes with it?
@@Ozzieapologist yeah I think the same, i feel like he might fear us given the fact that we killed a lot of demi gods and are dead serious on killing a god. Either that or he knows something that makes him believe that there shouldn’t be a next elden lord. His armor description says that he saw what Queen Marika planned and despaired or smth like that. Or lastly he wanted to be defeated so all his doubts are gone since you have the power to become elden lord. He was despaired to he might have sought hope from you cause you’ll become elden lord and shatter those doubts, there’s a lot of reasons to why he fought us, but there’s no way he wanted to become elden lord
@@GodfreyFirstEldenLordhe wanted to be Elden lord until he glimpsed into marikas will, and saw the end that should not be as his armour says. This is interesting because he probably didn’t see Marikas will because she wants the age to end (getting hewg to help kill a god, the tarnished, etc). He probably saw Radagons will. Radagon is marika so it makes sense he’d confuse their wills. Plus radagon doesn’t want this age to end, erecting thorns to bar entry into the erdtree.
He just a good guy tried to break a curse with all method necessary.. he is science guy not philoshoper guy, his moral is low, but not evil.. i mean he created the best "Firekeeper" Waifu in dark souls series with that legs animation..
Aldia was neutral. He tried to break the curse. He had utilitarian ideals. He believed that the benefit of no one going hollow would be a net benefit for everyone, regardless of the cost. Not really evil, just trying to do good for the majority
Old Monk from demons souls is basically an even worse Seath, very similar logic behind the characters except the old monk was even more unhinged and turned the place into something even worse than hell.
Yeah, as someone already pointed out, Old Monk was certainly not nice but it was mianly the robes doing it, he just sorta sat back and watched the show
Judging by the guy's accent, it could simply be that it's difficult to say correctly for him. Maybe we should all laugh at you for mispronouncing croissant or fajita?
@@daruddock I don't mispronounce croissant or fajita, and I am in fact not a native speaker of English myself. Honestly though, the humor here doesn't even really come from him mispronouncing the name, but from the fact that the mispronunciation itself is still a real name.
The funny part is the player characters are able to surpass most of these entries depending on how they conduct themselves during quests and endings lol
It doesn't change the carnage he committed before Miquella manipulated him he just goes from a violent psychopath creep to a violent psychopath who was charmed by a creep
There are pelnty of Ashes of war and spells that absolutely trounce npcs though as they cannot properly input read them, such as Miquella's Rings of Light, Phantom Slash, Frenzied Burst, Unendurable Frenzy, Inescapable Frenzy, Frenzy Flame burst, Giant Hunt, Lions Claw, Night Comet ect... All of these will absolutely destroy any npc. So yeah Gideon is hard if the player is completely clueless of what hes doing.
@@zipherdias420ummm... the golden order banished him and his broz for being born with horns. And you wonder why he didn't turn out to be a saint lololol
@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 If I was banished I would pick my self up, get a home in Maine and take up fishing, starting a death cult and living in my half brother is not on my list. Ok that last one wasn't him, but Mohg is not innocent by a long shot.
@zipherdias420 to be fair u wouldnt do any of that since ur shunned by the rest of the world and left to rot in a sewer lmao, mohg is definitely not innocent but neither would u be if u were in his position
For me the Pontiff takes the cake. They did not this for any reason such as fear, or because keeping the best age forever, or for nature. No He escaped his world (presumedly transforming his motherly figure into a monster) , saw how rotten the world was, and took benefit from that. Characters like Gwyn are know for being diferent tones of grey. Well this guy is black. Completely. And arguably the reason why he didn´t did worse is because he wasn´t powerful enough.
You sure? In my opinion he just applied what he learned from the Corvians and Ariandel (Pre-Friede) and tried to apply it to the outer world. That being to destroy the stagnancy of the Age of Fire just like the rot taking over the painting. But due to himself not having a reason to be forlorn, he could also just be ambitious.
Kinda wanna call bull on Pontif not being strong enough. Aldrich canonically beat him, but his fights a joke compared to the dps monster that is Pontiff.
My mate has a theory about Miquella. As Miyazaki is a huge fan of Berserk and uses a lot of references from it, Miquella can be a reference to Griffith from Berserk in that both characters are kidnapped and treated the same way by the Villain, so his theory is that Miquella will become twisted and corrupted and be a Villain for the DLC
Pretty on point. Except Miquella was actually planning to use Radahn and Mohg from the start, and he truly believes he is creating a better world, although that's at the cost of everyone's free will.
Is there anyone who DIDNT think Miquella was Griffith? I mean, the bewitching branch. The attempted eclipse at Castle Sole. Anybody who didn't see it before the DLC was blind. It was the number 1 theory from most people.
Even tho I really am all for calling gwyn evil, lame and even a coward, I really can't think of anyone beating shabriri. He does not care about justice, love, hope or joy. Not even for himself. He only dreams on ending the world, he makes his goal to end all goals, all people and all life just because the world is imperfect. He is as manipulative as Kathe and Frampt, coward as Gwyn, cruel and treacherous like Seath, bitter as dung eater and more destructive than manus but willingly, enjoying himself while cursing existence itself
Shbriri himself definitely is But most choas severnts just seem to hate life because of what it did to them as haytte puts it "torment despair affliction every sin every curse" "Burn it all away" "no more suffering no more birth"
Shabriri not being on this list is kinda disappointing. Bro lied and condemned an entire group of people and invited a disastrous outer god to the lands between. Becoming the herald of the chaos flame and putting the tarnished on the path to become the lord of frenzy. All to just destroy the world. Bro is as evil as evil gets
would like to put the entire Healing Church and School of Byrgenwerth from Bloodborne here. They both have a 'noble' goal, but the ways they go about achievieving it - mutating the normal people of Yharnam without a care - is evil
Let’s not forget the Old hunters as well, they’re actions in the fishing hamlet were beyond evil. Not to mention the twisted experiments they were performing in the research hall.
I mean… the Old Blood healed. People came from different countries because of the phenomenal healing properties. The Healing Church really was doing that, healing people. I don’t think they could’ve anticipated the Moon’s effect on those with the Blood in them. Only dudes who met the Moon to my knowledge were Gehrman and Laurence. Laurence becomes a beast, Gerhman is enslaved by the Moon, so I don’t think there was really anyone to give a heads up warning. Now, the Choir? The subset of the church? Those fuckers were eeeeevil. The whole Lumen Flower/orphanage/Celestial Emmisary thing is foul. If I remember right they’d take children from the orphanage, use the old blood and Celestial Emissary (who I believe was a Choir member who changed) to turn the children into mini emissaries, then they’d be planted and turned into Lumen Flowers. Lumen Flowers would attract… some otherworldly entity (like higher dimensional fireflies, phantasms I want to say?) which the Choir could then use to conduct their Arcane abilities and rituals and experiments and what not. Basically they took orphans and turned them into energy. So I think the church as a whole was a genuine helpful thing for the most part, but the guys in the Choir were despicable. God I want to replay now it’s been forever. Lore is sooooo damn good I love how literally everything is explained.
You said that Manus was evil, and I'd like to argue the opposite. The point of Dark Souls is that Man isn't evil, they just stem from an abyss that is counter to the Gods' fire. They are part of the natural order that came with the first flame, and are the rightful lords of what is to come after the age of fire. Sure, the Gods would argue that Manus was an evil villain, but evidence actually points towards the Gods as being the true villains. They feared the dark that humans came from, and chose to shackle them as a means to control them. Hence the Darksign. Gwynn even broke the natural order by kindling himself to stave off the coming darkness. There is nothing inherently wrong with the Dark, the gods just fear it because they cannot control it, as they attain power through fire.
Now you need put mohg on lower and putting miquella on first third palace He just didn't hold himself anymore Morgott is a good and loyal character, that not mean Mohg is bad is because he grew up in Deep underground
Oh and I'd definitely put the moon presence in there. Trapping your pawns in a never ending "dream" (nightmare) until they cull your rivals sounds villainous to me.
Moon Presence isn't evil because she's a higher being, and we can't comprehend her way of thinking. It's like a little kid burning an ant with a magnifying glass. He's evil as fuck to the ants, but does the kid do it out of malice or hate? Do other humans think he's evil for it?
@@aduckonaplane3816 that's not how it works though. The little kid is forcing the ants to attack other little kids. Moon Presence doesn't give a damn about humans in the grand scheme of things. Every hunter with the exception of Gehrman gets to leave at the end.
@@Keycil you're applying human values to incomprehensible beings. Humans killing humans is bad, so gods killing gods is bad? They are of greater mind. Morality isn't a thing to them. Applying human values to them is like ants thinking all humans must be a hivemind, too.
but the Moon Presence doens't want to kill other great ones, her main goal is to get the child she was promised by Lawrence and Gherman, and when they didn't give it to her she kept Gherman "hostage" of the dream
The Miquella /Mohg part didn't age well, none of us knew better prior to the dlc, although I suspected Miquella had charmed him I didn't expect Mohg to be done so dirty that he would go from evil to tragic
I think there were a couple inaccuracies in this video but your ranking is still solid and makes sense. You got some small details wrong but i cant blame ya.
I'm glad you enjoyed it. I wanted to add Shabiriri, but I couldn't find enough lore to talk about him for longer than a minute. Maybe if we get more descriptions about Outer Gods in the expansion, I may make a video about Shairiri, Three Fingers, and the Outer God of Chaos.
Finally people realize that they shoudn't cry for hearing plin plin plon but only feel happiness Gwyn f'd up the entire world of Dark Souls and killed himself to fuck it even more
Gwyn made it wrong but not out villany but because the good of his own people. He did all the wrong things for all the wrong reasons and thats what makes him a tragic and not an evil figure.
LOL nothing on the Mohg portion of this video aged well. First of all, Mohg isn’t weak, by any means. He’s fairly on par with a lot of the other demigods. He literally has the influence of an outer god at his disposal just like Malenia, which by default pretty much puts him in the same tier as her, he just has a different skill set. He can arguably outmatch her considering he can freely use his gifts from the Formless Mother whereas Malenia has to be losing in order for her to ever call upon her Rot God powers. Then we find out that Miquella has been manipulating Mohg the entire time and Mohg had nothing to actually do with any of this. Miquella sacrificed his sister and the Halig Tree inhabitants and Mohg to get Radahn at his disposal, and Mohg by far got the shittest end of the deal. He gets manipulated by Miquella, killed by us, and then had his body desecrated and used as a vessel for Radahn’s soul and then we fuck it up again when we beat Radahn lol. Mogh deserved a lot better, seriously.
i feel like shabriri is up there as one of the most malicious, evil characters in the entire franchise. spread a lie so vile it led to the persecution and imprisonment/torture of an entire culture of people (the merchants), said that the merchants were conspiring with the three fingers when really it was him and used their suffering to stoke the flame of frenzy below leyndell. his crime was so vile that when it was discovered he had lied, his eyes were gouged.
Where it is written that Pontiff was defeated by Aldrich? Even the pontiffs soul description suggests that they were more of a alies or that the pontiff was using Aldrich
I’ll be honest, I don’t think Gwyn is that evil of a character. Going through to timeline of events, he created the darksign, which is probably the most evil thing he did, but even then that allowed humans to live free lives, trusting fully in the illusion of life instead of living as hollows. He gave the pygmies the ringed city to seal away the dark. While this may be bad, it is also one of the most impressive and stunning places in the franchise, rivaling his own city of Anor Londo in beauty and greatly surpassing it in size. He feared the dark and did everything he could to stop it, but can you blame him when you know that the only two places he saw the dark were New Londo and Oolacile? I think most people would prefer pretty much anything to that, even more so when you realize an age of dark would likely mean the death and destruction of him, his family, his people, and everything he worked and fought to build. Even then, when the time came to link the fire, there were plenty of powerful souls to choose from that he could have commanded to do the work for him, but he chose to go himself, sacrificing his own life first to save the world he loved. When you look at how just about every other character deals with their enemies (player characters included), the fact that Gwyn managed to give humanity a place in the world which, from the descriptions of nations like Catarina and Astora seems not bad at all, is pretty impressive. The original Age of Fire (before the darksign and undead started showing up) seems like it was good for everyone, and I can see why he would want it to keep going when Oolacile seemed to be the way the world was headed.
Gwyn's greatest sin, ironically, was his hubris. Just like the Witches of Izalith, Gwyn knew (or learnt) that eventually the flames would fade and the Age of Gods would end to give way for the Age of Man. Gwyn feared the Dark, and he also felt that he knew what was best, so he did all sorts of things to artificially delay the inevitable. On that note, while it's true that some humans could climb the ranks in Gwyn's army; Bishop Havel the Rock comes to mind as an example, generally speaking humans were technically considered second class citizens. Humans had to live outside of Anor Lond, Golden City of the Gods, and only those who could prove worthiness and loyalty were permitted entry. The Giants, too, were treated as underclass as laborers and servants, albeit still held in higher esteem than humanity. Humans were valued, but they were also seen as rather expendable, as evidenced by the intentional flooding of New Londo Ruins, or by the Dark Sign to make into suitable kindling for the First Flame. Gwyn's attempt at imposing his ideal order managed to alienate all three of his children, the next generation and his would-be successors. His firstborn was disowned and struck from the annals of history, despite generally being considered a fair and virtuous young God of War (also being direcrly correlated with the subro Warriors of Sunlight covenant), simply for living partially at odds with his father's world view. Gwynevere effectively abandons Anor Londo to its fate, having supposedly married a flame god from a distant land and presumably moving on. Gwyndolin still holds true and loyal to his father's view, but he was also raised at odds with his own existence (which can be considered questionable). Also, artificially extending the Age of Fire seems to have done the world a lot of harm, as evidenced by the twisted and burnt-out state of the world the player character explores (which only proceeds to get even worse as time progresses into DS3). Ultimately, Gwyn's story is a pretty tragic one. He was a being who was gifted enormous power, and enormous responsibility to match it. He worked hard and did a pretty decent job of making things turn out okay. People treat him as a God, maybe he even believes it himself, he's certainly the most powerful and capable being around. But he has flaws, and is nowhere near as perfect as everyone believes him to be. Nowhere near as powerful as he needs to be. Refusing to adress certain issues, he pushes away those closest to him before finally making the ultimate sacrifice to (pointlessly) extend an age that nobody is really around to benefit from anymore (but obviously that's open to interpretation). He's long gone and the story is set in motion.
THANK YOU! Ngl i was a little surprised to see Gwyn as the final EVIL character of the video. For the final evil boi absolute monstruosities like Aldritch comes to mind, not Gwyn. The Age of the Ancients and the Everlasting Dragons was a bleak, immemorial, gray world filled with immortal creatures where no progress was bound to happen. With flames came disparity yatta yatta and the Lords coalition led by Gwyn was effectively the first big event to what would eventually be an age full of bustling cities like Astora (know for having a highly advanced culture and society) and Catarina (a place know for festivities and drinks), locations that paints a picture of humans living an okay life in some parts of the land. Ofcourse there was a lot of bad things too that came with the Age of Gods, that we all know. But between the forever stillness of a bleak gray world and the Age of Gods? The Age of Gods will always sounds like a better choice in my book.
@@risottonero6995 Boy, sit your ass down: He abandoned his kids, He let his daughter be raped by a complete lunatic of a scientist, and he created a TERRIBLE world doomed to crumble because he was completely inept and egotistical. He wanted his legacy to be immortal, so he doomed the inhabitants to either fulfil his wishes or go insane
My understanding is that the way that darkness manifested in Oolacile is because of Gwyn's attempts to stifle its growth. Darkness became corrupted due to Gwyn's meddling in the natural order of things
One thing regarding Manus that isn't mentioned here: it wasn't just the loss of his pendant that drove him crazy, it was the torture. The bonfire to get to him sits in a cell with chains and a broken wall, which he presumably broke himself before trying to return to his grave site where we find and fight him, probably in utter confusion (and agony, being exploded from the inside by the Abyss was definetely not a nice experience). That cell is also surrounded by other cells, and right outside that corridor there is a Chained Prisoner, clearly another human who underwent torture. Another source for this is Gough's dialogue, he says something in the lines of: " (the Oolacile sourcerers) wanted to discover the secrets of Primeval man". Also, Kaathe (Kate) wasn't the only one responsable for it, Allfather Lloyd, or Gwyndolin, or both, also had a part in it. The bonfire in Manus' cell can't have gotten there on it's own, and the Way of White (commanded by Lloyd) is the group which was tasked by Gwyn to place bonfires all around Lordran.
@@blizzardgaming7070& @grassblock7668 But in the end is the player that kills Manus. Ciaran could have been there following Artorias out of love/respect for as much as we know...
@@alessandrobaggi6129 Manus died before we fight him, Oolacile disturbed his grave after all. I think he was assassinated and the betrayal combined with complete darkness allowed him to corrupt into the abyss.
@@alessandrobaggi6129 i only know the lofre from videos and that stuff, but didn't ciaran went searching after artorias?, thats the reason why she even gives you her blades once she bury him
I think Sen is underrated as an evil character. I don't know anything about Sen, except for his fortress being one of the most frustrating parts of any of these games.
There is a list of errors, but, not putting Rykard in this list, is just crazy. Yes, he was very cunning, yes, he may have some reason about the Golden Order, but was a MASS torturer, maybe the most sadistic and cruel major character in FromSoftware lore.
I thought the first one would be Shabriri, we see him very few but i heard he's real evil, he make grapes from people's eyes and all he want was "chaos to take the world" He died but yet he still lives in Yura's body, it's terrifying as he can live in someone else's body
I honestly wouldn't say that Gwyn was the most evil. He did sacrifice himself trying to save his world, rather than keep eating the humans, even though he failed and the rest of the lords kept using the humans as fodder.
Gwyn sacrificed himself because he doesn’t want his age to end. Instead of letting the natural change to the age of man he trapped all of humanity’s darkness and literally trapped the world into an endless cycle. Gwyn fucked the world up because of his hubris and nobody can undo it, he deserve the no1 spot honestly
@@daddyvegan9325 come one Seath was far worse. Gwyn was like Hitler, he cared about Germany. Seath was like Joseph Mengele. He only cared about his experiments which were brought upon innocent.
@@daddyvegan9325 Tbf he didn't really know that would happen. Idk Gwyn always felt like a pretty gray character to me even through the lore, I was surprised to see him on the list in all honesty.
@@paschen1791it sort of did, he feared the dark soul and the pygym lords, so he cursed humanity with the dark sign to insure he couldn’t be overrun. He basically did everything he could to insure his age would be permanent, and any would do anything no matter the morals to stop them.
@@vryyyx I mean yeah, but then again he created a prosperous age, it's not so surprising that he'd want to keep it, though the evil part being that he did anything to do so. I don't think he's evil by intention.
I feel like sulyvahn's spot should be replaced by aldrich cause his actions weren't done on his own volition, he was basically being controlled by the abyss within the profaned flame while aldrich on the other hand literally eats children and this was even before he embraced the abyss after seeing it in his dreams
There are more villains I didn't include in the video. What are your picks for the most evil characters in Souls games?
I’ve always been the villain
Lautrec destroys your bonfire in Firelink, truly the most evil act in dark souls.
Shabriris pretty awful. You should make a part 2, this video was very good!
I thought I knew Dark Souls lore but I didn't realize what a piece of shit Gwynn was. Goob Job. looking forward to your next videos.
Gravity.
While not really a character per se, nonetheless 'tis a persistent nemesis, indeed...
I would like to mention Aldrich is just as bad as Sulyvahn. Aldrich is the only character in the entire Souls franchise to commit infanticide, he takes a sadistic enjoyment in eating people alive, invaded Anor Londo and devoured Gywndolin for his powers, and intended to bring about the Age of Deep, which was much worse than the Age of Dark because all will suffer in it.
I didn’t know it could get any worse with that sludge fuck.
The protagonist of bloodborne commits infanticide, right after its birth too
He actually does it TWICE if you count Mergo
@@bombthing Bloodborne is in it's own established universe.
For these reasons I’d say Aldrich is worse
@@Blueninja825 yea but so is elden ring
I think we all owe mohg an apology
“allegations defeated”
yes we do, i fear we have no idea how he really ticked
Lmfao
We do, but he's still pretty bad
@@riggedfromthestartaccusations felled
Mohg got Mohg-lested by Miquella, he does not deserve this slander
Miquelested
Miquella is insanely disgusting. Mohg, Malenia and Radahn got fucked over by him.
My brother in Christmas. HE STARTED A FUCKING BLOOD CULT BASED ON KILLING AND DRAINING BLOOD.
The fact that He was brainwashed to kidnap an underaged femboy doesn't contridict the thing above.
Malenia, Miquellester for Miquella
my client Mohg has now been proven innocent and should be taken of this list and be replaced with miquella
Tbf it’s unlikely that Mogh didn’t know about miquellas plan, since I don’t think the formless mother would allow him to be manipulated by Miquella, and with miquella not having any unalloyed gold to stop the mothers influence. It’s more likely that mogh kidnapped miquella to Crete his dynasty and miquella saw it as something he could use
It's confirmed that Miquella manipulated Mohg throughout the entire debacle; he used him to enter Shadow Realm and even stole his body.
You are giving way to much credit to how all knowing God's are in Elden Ring (our Fromsoft games in general). The golden order stomped through both Pale Queen and Fire Giants despite them both having knowledge and power given to them by their own gods.
Bloodborne and Demon Souls basically involve the player potentially manipulating or killing their games gods. Fromsoft seems to like letting people from the living world fight and struggle against God's ambitions.
FREE MOHG FREE MOHG
All the other horrible stuff Mohg did to the albuinarics and the white masks he kidnapped and tortured into insanity? Like Miquella just used him to escape he did all that other stuff on his own.
“Mohg knew he wasn’t a match for most of the demigods.” Didn’t fucking feel like it.
Eh, “mogh knew he wasn’t enough on his own” is true tho
Turned to the flaming mom fore it
I mean now with divine aid maybe, but without it he is weaker than his brother
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If Mohg chose to learn any other magic, he still would have been strong. The way I understand the descriptions of blood incantations, Mohg created them and one must be skillful to do that.
He is using the formless Mother's blood as base, but that's how magic works in elden ring.
Glintstone sorcerers also use the power of glintstone and don't create it out of nothing.
Holy magic is also created from the golden order, right? Radagon and Morgott don't create their own holy energy, but channel a power that is already there.
I see it similar to a water bender from Avatar. They need water as a base to even fight, but still need their own skill to properly use, what is already there.
To be fair, Melania and Miquella are clearly stronger, with Melania being much stronger in game. Radahn is heavily degraded when we meet him. Morgott is similar in power, but doesn’t have an entire outer god carrying him through the fight. Mohg in phase 1 is easier than most demigods, it’s only after blood mommy comes in that he’s a problem
@Nameandaddresswithheld I think Mohg is the demigod closest to Malenia. When TH-camrs have pitted them against each other he's one of the only bosses in the game who can really contend with her. His bleed spells seem uniquely suited to beat her.
Never ending backstab chain is such a Dark Souls classic xD
Manus is an interesting case because it’s some normal Pygmy pilgrim from the Ringed City. He’s less a villain and more a force of nature provoked to madness.
One thing of note, Manus is found dead in the only place in the entire franchise a lords blade is found. I think he was assassinated by Gwyn.
I don't know if the story i know about him is correct, but he wasn't even evil at all, he took care of a human civilization while they were growing up, and didn't even tried to harm someone, he was tortured to release his dark soul power and that ended the way it ended (i don't know if he was still councious in that point in time). And if it had been up to him, he would just have waited until win failed and the age of darkness came naturally so that humans could live in it. Yeah, he wasn't a hero, but i don't think he was a villain either
@@santiagoteruel4145 Dark Souls III tells us that Manus was once a human who traveled to Oolacile as a form of pilgrimage. He died there and was buried. A primordial serpent (presumably Kaathe) tricked the Oolacile residents to dig him up, revive him, and experiment on him. This experimentation reduced him to his primal desires and he wanted nothing more than an amulet which symbolized… something, for him. But the people of Oolacile took that from him too, so he went berserk and fathered the Abyss
@@blizzardgaming7070 that does make sense as Gwyn was the one that imprisoned the pygmies with lies and trickery. Manus probably didn't even realize he was doing exactly what Gwyn worked hard to stop, leaving the ringed city.
Whoever thought it was a good idea to have us fight Capra Demon and those dogs in such a small space is the embodiment of evil.
God.
I remember taking the cheap way out with that fight.
Took about 20-30 minutes lobbing bombs across the wall.
Felt like 2 hours.
I just ran up stairs and got lucky hiding lmao
That dumb ass tree on the right wall of the arena perfectly situated to get you caught rolling on it is as responsible for that fight being shitty imo.
@@shepardren8006I don’t even blame you man. This and bed of chaos are such bad bosses. They’re not even hard they’re just so poorly made 😂
Run up stairs. Deal damage. Drop off stairs. Repeat
The first time I fought Mohg, my mom came into my room to get something, looked at the screen, said "ew", and left
I have a similar story but with Rykard's boss transition cutscene
Funny cause that's what his own mom said when him and his brother where born
@@richardrussel4567 don't have a brother
@@mist4848 Morgott is Mohg's twin brother
OHHHHH
one correction, gideon near the end has a realization that even he couldn't possibly become the elden lord, and stands in your way to put you out of your misery believing you couldn't do it either
True, I don’t think he deserves to be on the list to begin with given that there’s far more evil characters then him. How is Gideon on the list when there’s selivus who basically makes puppets of woman by taking their control over their bodies and then ra p.. them. That’s far more evil than Gideon especially since his plan was to make a puppet out of a demi god who had the potential to become a god (ranni) and then do even more messed up stuff once he has the power to
As strange as it may sound, I don’t think he ever wanted to become Elden Lord. It was only a lie he told Nepheli to keep her close. Having to rule and bring stability to the Lands between would only distract him from his knowledge-searching. That’s why he starts helping us after we beat Ensha. We proved that we’re strong enough to make a legitimate claim for the Elden Ring, so why don’t just let us inherit both the title and the cumbersome responsibility that comes with it?
@@Ozzieapologist yeah I think the same, i feel like he might fear us given the fact that we killed a lot of demi gods and are dead serious on killing a god. Either that or he knows something that makes him believe that there shouldn’t be a next elden lord. His armor description says that he saw what Queen Marika planned and despaired or smth like that. Or lastly he wanted to be defeated so all his doubts are gone since you have the power to become elden lord. He was despaired to he might have sought hope from you cause you’ll become elden lord and shatter those doubts, there’s a lot of reasons to why he fought us, but there’s no way he wanted to become elden lord
@@GodfreyFirstEldenLord maybe he knows something about the dlc's story we don't know yet
@@GodfreyFirstEldenLordhe wanted to be Elden lord until he glimpsed into marikas will, and saw the end that should not be as his armour says. This is interesting because he probably didn’t see Marikas will because she wants the age to end (getting hewg to help kill a god, the tarnished, etc). He probably saw Radagons will. Radagon is marika so it makes sense he’d confuse their wills. Plus radagon doesn’t want this age to end, erecting thorns to bar entry into the erdtree.
Aldia created inumerous abominations via experiments. Giants, animals and humans. He even tried to turn humans into dragons, the undead aberration.
But aldia wasn't a villian, he was trying to find a way to stop the curse.
he turned giants into dragons***
Aldia was a guy trying to do good in bad ways
He just a good guy tried to break a curse with all method necessary.. he is science guy not philoshoper guy, his moral is low, but not evil.. i mean he created the best "Firekeeper" Waifu in dark souls series with that legs animation..
Aldia was neutral. He tried to break the curse. He had utilitarian ideals. He believed that the benefit of no one going hollow would be a net benefit for everyone, regardless of the cost. Not really evil, just trying to do good for the majority
Old Monk from demons souls is basically an even worse Seath, very similar logic behind the characters except the old monk was even more unhinged and turned the place into something even worse than hell.
To be fair he was being controlled by his golden robes. Or they at least made him worse.
Yeah, as someone already pointed out, Old Monk was certainly not nice but it was mianly the robes doing it, he just sorta sat back and watched the show
Worse than how Seath raped?
"It turns out that the real *Souls* were the *Demon's* we made along the way..." -From Software, probably.
Hand it over, that thing, your dark souls 3
"The primordial serpent, Kate." 😅
Do people play the game without audio? Both Kathe himself and Yuria of Londor both pronounce it properly.
Judging by the guy's accent, it could simply be that it's difficult to say correctly for him. Maybe we should all laugh at you for mispronouncing croissant or fajita?
@@daruddock I don't mispronounce croissant or fajita, and I am in fact not a native speaker of English myself. Honestly though, the humor here doesn't even really come from him mispronouncing the name, but from the fact that the mispronunciation itself is still a real name.
@@blizzardgaming7070 same with how people mispronounce Ranni
@@tarvoc746lol I'm just imagining Kaathe with a blonde wig
The funny part is the player characters are able to surpass most of these entries depending on how they conduct themselves during quests and endings lol
Mohg beat the allegations
Was about to comment it myself😅
It doesn't change the carnage he committed before Miquella manipulated him he just goes from a violent psychopath creep to a violent psychopath who was charmed by a creep
I would add Aldrich, the god of rot, Eiglay, Lautrec and the iron king.
You have all my respect for remembering iron king lmao
@@grassblock7668 i mean, he is the most memorable boss look-wise and the famous random hole in his arena.. not the boss fight itself
@@CptDuck I know I know, but his lore barely gets considered because people cannot bring themselves to read item descriptions.
Lautrec wasn't nearly as evil as the others, he just acts purely on his own interest to serve his own god
Jhon dark souls killed his own waifu to usurp the flame . That is just beyond evil
gideons fight if you dont cheese his speech is definitely one of the hardest npc fights in the game
That’s a low bar though
@es5424 they should be better level set because at low/mid levels most of the npcs are fairl tough some downright bs
There are pelnty of Ashes of war and spells that absolutely trounce npcs though as they cannot properly input read them, such as Miquella's Rings of Light, Phantom Slash, Frenzied Burst, Unendurable Frenzy, Inescapable Frenzy, Frenzy Flame burst, Giant Hunt, Lions Claw, Night Comet ect... All of these will absolutely destroy any npc. So yeah Gideon is hard if the player is completely clueless of what hes doing.
Death magic causes him to stun lock
I beat him first try without cheesing as a Socery guy
APOLOGIZE TO MOHG
Lol just because Miquella wasn't what everyone thought doesn't make Mohg good by default, he still went mad and started a bloody death cult.
@@zipherdias420ummm... the golden order banished him and his broz for being born with horns.
And you wonder why he didn't turn out to be a saint lololol
@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 If I was banished I would pick my self up, get a home in Maine and take up fishing, starting a death cult and living in my half brother is not on my list. Ok that last one wasn't him, but Mohg is not innocent by a long shot.
@zipherdias420 to be fair u wouldnt do any of that since ur shunned by the rest of the world and left to rot in a sewer lmao, mohg is definitely not innocent but neither would u be if u were in his position
@@zipherdias420 if i am to choose between a cult of a genocidal maniac and a cult of a flamer Satan, i am choosing the latter.
For me the Pontiff takes the cake. They did not this for any reason such as fear, or because keeping the best age forever, or for nature.
No
He escaped his world (presumedly transforming his motherly figure into a monster) , saw how rotten the world was, and took benefit from that. Characters like Gwyn are know for being diferent tones of grey. Well this guy is black. Completely. And arguably the reason why he didn´t did worse is because he wasn´t powerful enough.
Black = evil?
Racism
You sure? In my opinion he just applied what he learned from the Corvians and Ariandel (Pre-Friede) and tried to apply it to the outer world. That being to destroy the stagnancy of the Age of Fire just like the rot taking over the painting. But due to himself not having a reason to be forlorn, he could also just be ambitious.
Aldrich
Kinda wanna call bull on Pontif not being strong enough. Aldrich canonically beat him, but his fights a joke compared to the dps monster that is Pontiff.
Remember
Pontiff's motivation was he was too cold
The greatest villain is actually Artorias for making us kill Good Doggy Sif
Hey don't put the blame on him, you chose to do it :(
Dude- Artorias would never want to kill his BFF.
My mate has a theory about Miquella. As Miyazaki is a huge fan of Berserk and uses a lot of references from it, Miquella can be a reference to Griffith from Berserk in that both characters are kidnapped and treated the same way by the Villain, so his theory is that Miquella will become twisted and corrupted and be a Villain for the DLC
Your mates theory aged like fine wine
Pretty on point. Except Miquella was actually planning to use Radahn and Mohg from the start, and he truly believes he is creating a better world, although that's at the cost of everyone's free will.
@@andreiriboliso hes kaguya from naruto
@@shadenthal6276Kinda looks like her too
Is there anyone who DIDNT think Miquella was Griffith? I mean, the bewitching branch. The attempted eclipse at Castle Sole. Anybody who didn't see it before the DLC was blind. It was the number 1 theory from most people.
Even tho I really am all for calling gwyn evil, lame and even a coward, I really can't think of anyone beating shabriri.
He does not care about justice, love, hope or joy. Not even for himself. He only dreams on ending the world, he makes his goal to end all goals, all people and all life just because the world is imperfect. He is as manipulative as Kathe and Frampt, coward as Gwyn, cruel and treacherous like Seath, bitter as dung eater and more destructive than manus but willingly, enjoying himself while cursing existence itself
You're absolutely right. I wasn't satisfied with the amount of lore I found about Shabiriri, so I removed him from the script.
Shbriri himself definitely is
But most choas severnts just seem to hate life because of what it did to them as haytte puts it "torment despair affliction every sin every curse" "Burn it all away" "no more suffering no more birth"
Eh, shabriri is the coolest character in the game.
He’s literally kenjaku.
No more death, no more birth, mad about it? No more shabriri either.
@@GreatBlueWorldyeah really the only similarity is the body hopping and even then the methods are very different
Frenzied flame is the good ending it ends all cycles
So, who is the meanest bastard of Souls?
Patches. A guy so evil he would betray his mother for a Shining Coin.
poor mohg, it was never the mohglester, it was the miquellester
I really like Lautrec as an antagonist, a romantic villain with personal ambitions.
Lautrec was never a villain everything he does is Justified.
@@triploshadow And he cares about his brother... like, a lot
I'm just here to tell people that Mogh is just a victim
Mohg deserved better
Shabriri not being on this list is kinda disappointing. Bro lied and condemned an entire group of people and invited a disastrous outer god to the lands between. Becoming the herald of the chaos flame and putting the tarnished on the path to become the lord of frenzy. All to just destroy the world. Bro is as evil as evil gets
Put the respect on mohgs name he was the mohglested🗣️🔥
From mohglester to mohglested
Mohg deserves an apology video
would like to put the entire Healing Church and School of Byrgenwerth from Bloodborne here. They both have a 'noble' goal, but the ways they go about achievieving it - mutating the normal people of Yharnam without a care - is evil
Let’s not forget the Old hunters as well, they’re actions in the fishing hamlet were beyond evil. Not to mention the twisted experiments they were performing in the research hall.
@@NartOfficial371 I'd like to just say they were just stupid, but with the description of the Beast Cutter they prolly were just evil lol
I mean… the Old Blood healed. People came from different countries because of the phenomenal healing properties. The Healing Church really was doing that, healing people.
I don’t think they could’ve anticipated the Moon’s effect on those with the Blood in them. Only dudes who met the Moon to my knowledge were Gehrman and Laurence. Laurence becomes a beast, Gerhman is enslaved by the Moon, so I don’t think there was really anyone to give a heads up warning.
Now, the Choir? The subset of the church? Those fuckers were eeeeevil. The whole Lumen Flower/orphanage/Celestial Emmisary thing is foul. If I remember right they’d take children from the orphanage, use the old blood and Celestial Emissary (who I believe was a Choir member who changed) to turn the children into mini emissaries, then they’d be planted and turned into Lumen Flowers. Lumen Flowers would attract… some otherworldly entity (like higher dimensional fireflies, phantasms I want to say?) which the Choir could then use to conduct their Arcane abilities and rituals and experiments and what not. Basically they took orphans and turned them into energy.
So I think the church as a whole was a genuine helpful thing for the most part, but the guys in the Choir were despicable.
God I want to replay now it’s been forever. Lore is sooooo damn good I love how literally everything is explained.
@@NartOfficial371That includes Gehrman, he still has nightmares regarding that night along with Maria whom the doll is based on.
You owe mohg an apology my dude
The Gideon hate for no reason is hilarious
mohg kidnaps miquella
Miquella : all according to keikaku
Well… about Mogh…
Lord of Blood gets the pass imo. Dude was depicted as the Mohglester and was actually Miquellested instead
Mogh was actually the victim in the situation, which is a crazy turnaround to drop in the dlc
Considering the amount of villains I think we need a part two.
Mohg is a victim.
the dlc called and asked for an apology to mohg
You said that Manus was evil, and I'd like to argue the opposite. The point of Dark Souls is that Man isn't evil, they just stem from an abyss that is counter to the Gods' fire. They are part of the natural order that came with the first flame, and are the rightful lords of what is to come after the age of fire. Sure, the Gods would argue that Manus was an evil villain, but evidence actually points towards the Gods as being the true villains. They feared the dark that humans came from, and chose to shackle them as a means to control them. Hence the Darksign. Gwynn even broke the natural order by kindling himself to stave off the coming darkness. There is nothing inherently wrong with the Dark, the gods just fear it because they cannot control it, as they attain power through fire.
Now you need put mohg on lower and putting miquella on first third palace
He just didn't hold himself anymore
Morgott is a good and loyal character, that not mean Mohg is bad is because he grew up in Deep underground
The mohglester got miqlested, take his name off that list
MOHGS NAME IS CLEARED
Oh and I'd definitely put the moon presence in there. Trapping your pawns in a never ending "dream" (nightmare) until they cull your rivals sounds villainous to me.
Moon Presence isn't evil because she's a higher being, and we can't comprehend her way of thinking. It's like a little kid burning an ant with a magnifying glass. He's evil as fuck to the ants, but does the kid do it out of malice or hate? Do other humans think he's evil for it?
@@aduckonaplane3816 that's not how it works though. The little kid is forcing the ants to attack other little kids. Moon Presence doesn't give a damn about humans in the grand scheme of things. Every hunter with the exception of Gehrman gets to leave at the end.
@@Keycil you're applying human values to incomprehensible beings. Humans killing humans is bad, so gods killing gods is bad?
They are of greater mind. Morality isn't a thing to them. Applying human values to them is like ants thinking all humans must be a hivemind, too.
but the Moon Presence doens't want to kill other great ones, her main goal is to get the child she was promised by Lawrence and Gherman, and when they didn't give it to her she kept Gherman "hostage" of the dream
The Miquella /Mohg part didn't age well, none of us knew better prior to the dlc, although I suspected Miquella had charmed him I didn't expect Mohg to be done so dirty that he would go from evil to tragic
I think there were a couple inaccuracies in this video but your ranking is still solid and makes sense. You got some small details wrong but i cant blame ya.
I was definitely surprised to not see Shabriri on this list.
Awesome video btw i really enjoyed it^^
I'm glad you enjoyed it. I wanted to add Shabiriri, but I couldn't find enough lore to talk about him for longer than a minute. Maybe if we get more descriptions about Outer Gods in the expansion, I may make a video about Shairiri, Three Fingers, and the Outer God of Chaos.
Finally people realize that they shoudn't cry for hearing plin plin plon but only feel happiness
Gwyn f'd up the entire world of Dark Souls and killed himself to fuck it even more
Gwyn theme is the theme of the end
And the beginning of the Age of Dark. Long live the Fourth Lord.
Plin plin plon is sad because you have to face the reality of Gwyn’s actions: that being the degradation of the entire world itself.
Gwyn made it wrong but not out villany but because the good of his own people. He did all the wrong things for all the wrong reasons and thats what makes him a tragic and not an evil figure.
@@Thenewbagmanexactly! When will people understand this.
It's these frogs in Dark Souls 1 who halve your health bar.
LOL nothing on the Mohg portion of this video aged well. First of all, Mohg isn’t weak, by any means. He’s fairly on par with a lot of the other demigods. He literally has the influence of an outer god at his disposal just like Malenia, which by default pretty much puts him in the same tier as her, he just has a different skill set. He can arguably outmatch her considering he can freely use his gifts from the Formless Mother whereas Malenia has to be losing in order for her to ever call upon her Rot God powers. Then we find out that Miquella has been manipulating Mohg the entire time and Mohg had nothing to actually do with any of this. Miquella sacrificed his sister and the Halig Tree inhabitants and Mohg to get Radahn at his disposal, and Mohg by far got the shittest end of the deal. He gets manipulated by Miquella, killed by us, and then had his body desecrated and used as a vessel for Radahn’s soul and then we fuck it up again when we beat Radahn lol. Mogh deserved a lot better, seriously.
The most evil character is the player who doesn’t level vigor
They are not really that evil as they spend most of the time on the bonfire/grace.
I beat the whole game with the vigor of 20.
It was hard but it was done
Feel like the only one that suffers is them.
Strongly agree with Manus. It would be like calling a hurricane evil because some people died
MOHG ISNT A VILLAIN!! We all owe him an apology at this point.
You gotta change the Mogh slander, MY BOY BEAT THE CHARGES
Free my boy mohg
i feel like shabriri is up there as one of the most malicious, evil characters in the entire franchise. spread a lie so vile it led to the persecution and imprisonment/torture of an entire culture of people (the merchants), said that the merchants were conspiring with the three fingers when really it was him and used their suffering to stoke the flame of frenzy below leyndell. his crime was so vile that when it was discovered he had lied, his eyes were gouged.
And he still lied as a spirit tried to trick various tarnished capable of bringing new age and convince them to become lord of frenzy.
Bro literally forgot the Ranni. Incredibly disappointing.
Where it is written that Pontiff was defeated by Aldrich? Even the pontiffs soul description suggests that they were more of a alies or that the pontiff was using Aldrich
Shabriri, Rykard, Mohg.
The unholy trinity of Elden Ring villains.
Man. Mohg being on this list didn't age well.
MOHG BEAT THE ALLEGATIONS 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
I’ll be honest, I don’t think Gwyn is that evil of a character. Going through to timeline of events, he created the darksign, which is probably the most evil thing he did, but even then that allowed humans to live free lives, trusting fully in the illusion of life instead of living as hollows.
He gave the pygmies the ringed city to seal away the dark. While this may be bad, it is also one of the most impressive and stunning places in the franchise, rivaling his own city of Anor Londo in beauty and greatly surpassing it in size.
He feared the dark and did everything he could to stop it, but can you blame him when you know that the only two places he saw the dark were New Londo and Oolacile? I think most people would prefer pretty much anything to that, even more so when you realize an age of dark would likely mean the death and destruction of him, his family, his people, and everything he worked and fought to build.
Even then, when the time came to link the fire, there were plenty of powerful souls to choose from that he could have commanded to do the work for him, but he chose to go himself, sacrificing his own life first to save the world he loved.
When you look at how just about every other character deals with their enemies (player characters included), the fact that Gwyn managed to give humanity a place in the world which, from the descriptions of nations like Catarina and Astora seems not bad at all, is pretty impressive.
The original Age of Fire (before the darksign and undead started showing up) seems like it was good for everyone, and I can see why he would want it to keep going when Oolacile seemed to be the way the world was headed.
Gwyn's greatest sin, ironically, was his hubris. Just like the Witches of Izalith, Gwyn knew (or learnt) that eventually the flames would fade and the Age of Gods would end to give way for the Age of Man. Gwyn feared the Dark, and he also felt that he knew what was best, so he did all sorts of things to artificially delay the inevitable.
On that note, while it's true that some humans could climb the ranks in Gwyn's army; Bishop Havel the Rock comes to mind as an example, generally speaking humans were technically considered second class citizens. Humans had to live outside of Anor Lond, Golden City of the Gods, and only those who could prove worthiness and loyalty were permitted entry. The Giants, too, were treated as underclass as laborers and servants, albeit still held in higher esteem than humanity. Humans were valued, but they were also seen as rather expendable, as evidenced by the intentional flooding of New Londo Ruins, or by the Dark Sign to make into suitable kindling for the First Flame.
Gwyn's attempt at imposing his ideal order managed to alienate all three of his children, the next generation and his would-be successors. His firstborn was disowned and struck from the annals of history, despite generally being considered a fair and virtuous young God of War (also being direcrly correlated with the subro Warriors of Sunlight covenant), simply for living partially at odds with his father's world view. Gwynevere effectively abandons Anor Londo to its fate, having supposedly married a flame god from a distant land and presumably moving on. Gwyndolin still holds true and loyal to his father's view, but he was also raised at odds with his own existence (which can be considered questionable). Also, artificially extending the Age of Fire seems to have done the world a lot of harm, as evidenced by the twisted and burnt-out state of the world the player character explores (which only proceeds to get even worse as time progresses into DS3).
Ultimately, Gwyn's story is a pretty tragic one. He was a being who was gifted enormous power, and enormous responsibility to match it. He worked hard and did a pretty decent job of making things turn out okay. People treat him as a God, maybe he even believes it himself, he's certainly the most powerful and capable being around. But he has flaws, and is nowhere near as perfect as everyone believes him to be. Nowhere near as powerful as he needs to be. Refusing to adress certain issues, he pushes away those closest to him before finally making the ultimate sacrifice to (pointlessly) extend an age that nobody is really around to benefit from anymore (but obviously that's open to interpretation). He's long gone and the story is set in motion.
THANK YOU! Ngl i was a little surprised to see Gwyn as the final EVIL character of the video. For the final evil boi absolute monstruosities like Aldritch comes to mind, not Gwyn.
The Age of the Ancients and the Everlasting Dragons was a bleak, immemorial, gray world filled with immortal creatures where no progress was bound to happen. With flames came disparity yatta yatta and the Lords coalition led by Gwyn was effectively the first big event to what would eventually be an age full of bustling cities like Astora (know for having a highly advanced culture and society) and Catarina (a place know for festivities and drinks), locations that paints a picture of humans living an okay life in some parts of the land.
Ofcourse there was a lot of bad things too that came with the Age of Gods, that we all know. But between the forever stillness of a bleak gray world and the Age of Gods? The Age of Gods will always sounds like a better choice in my book.
Yappin
@@risottonero6995 Boy, sit your ass down: He abandoned his kids, He let his daughter be raped by a complete lunatic of a scientist, and he created a TERRIBLE world doomed to crumble because he was completely inept and egotistical.
He wanted his legacy to be immortal, so he doomed the inhabitants to either fulfil his wishes or go insane
My understanding is that the way that darkness manifested in Oolacile is because of Gwyn's attempts to stifle its growth. Darkness became corrupted due to Gwyn's meddling in the natural order of things
Mogh is innocent
Im willing to bet that Shadow of the erdtree will have the most evil char of all their titles
miquella and marika should be added to this list
One thing regarding Manus that isn't mentioned here: it wasn't just the loss of his pendant that drove him crazy, it was the torture. The bonfire to get to him sits in a cell with chains and a broken wall, which he presumably broke himself before trying to return to his grave site where we find and fight him, probably in utter confusion (and agony, being exploded from the inside by the Abyss was definetely not a nice experience).
That cell is also surrounded by other cells, and right outside that corridor there is a Chained Prisoner, clearly another human who underwent torture. Another source for this is Gough's dialogue, he says something in the lines of: " (the Oolacile sourcerers) wanted to discover the secrets of Primeval man". Also, Kaathe (Kate) wasn't the only one responsable for it, Allfather Lloyd, or Gwyndolin, or both, also had a part in it. The bonfire in Manus' cell can't have gotten there on it's own, and the Way of White (commanded by Lloyd) is the group which was tasked by Gwyn to place bonfires all around Lordran.
Another thing of note, near Manus who died in Oolacile, is the only lords blade encountered in the entire series. I think Gwyn assassinated Manus.
@@blizzardgaming7070 He probably sent Ciaran or any Lord's Blade to kill him, yeah
@@blizzardgaming7070& @grassblock7668 But in the end is the player that kills Manus. Ciaran could have been there following Artorias out of love/respect for as much as we know...
@@alessandrobaggi6129 Manus died before we fight him, Oolacile disturbed his grave after all. I think he was assassinated and the betrayal combined with complete darkness allowed him to corrupt into the abyss.
@@alessandrobaggi6129 i only know the lofre from videos and that stuff, but didn't ciaran went searching after artorias?, thats the reason why she even gives you her blades once she bury him
Mohg is a protagonist. You owe an apology to Mohg
Mogh was done wrong
Ansbach asks you to reconsider Mohgs segment
No Patches?! Not even honorable mention? Granted, he’s not powerful as most of the other mentions, but his villainy transcends a single title
Not only is he not here, but I will also double down and put him in the heroes video.
@@Brollo_ Oh my
Patches is the ultimate badass, more petty (and a lot human) than truly evil...
I generally loathe him too, but he has fair points to his worldvision.
@@alessandrobaggi6129He freakin’ threw me of a ledge to steal my goodies!
@@pedrogabrielwriternot only that he kicked you in a ditch to fight Midir lmao
I am truly sorry, Mohg. We all have wronged you.
You owe mohg a apology
Mogh: the gloves dont fit
with sote he beat the allegation
Mohg was under miquellas control
Can you redo this video, replace Mohg with Miquella?
Will most likely make a part two with the villains I haven't covered.
Funny how inaccurate the Mohg lord of blood section is now that the DLC is out
So where does miquella end up on the list now with the new lore
@@TheShinigami244 I'll make a part two with even more villains
I think Sen is underrated as an evil character. I don't know anything about Sen, except for his fortress being one of the most frustrating parts of any of these games.
Sorry, I can't watch this with the Mohg slander 😔
Mohg aint do nun bro miquella framed him
Mohg the Conqueror of Allegations
But at what cost...
I may be wrong but, wasn't New Londo flooded because of the Dark Wraiths which come from the Abyss? I don't think it was Gwyn.
Gwyn flood it to prevent the spread of the abyss
I think we all owe Mohg an apology
Coming here after the Elden ring DLC, I think we need a new list with miquella on it instead of mohg
There is a list of errors, but, not putting Rykard in this list, is just crazy. Yes, he was very cunning, yes, he may have some reason about the Golden Order, but was a MASS torturer, maybe the most sadistic and cruel major character in FromSoftware lore.
So about Mohg………
I find it interesting that a lot of souls players still think an age of fire is always a good thing.
Apologize to Mohg!
I thought the first one would be Shabriri, we see him very few but i heard he's real evil, he make grapes from people's eyes and all he want was "chaos to take the world"
He died but yet he still lives in Yura's body, it's terrifying as he can live in someone else's body
Free my boy mohg he did nothing wrong 😔🙏
The most evil character in souls: the player controlled naked deprived killing every living creature
I honestly wouldn't say that Gwyn was the most evil. He did sacrifice himself trying to save his world, rather than keep eating the humans, even though he failed and the rest of the lords kept using the humans as fodder.
Gwyn sacrificed himself because he doesn’t want his age to end. Instead of letting the natural change to the age of man he trapped all of humanity’s darkness and literally trapped the world into an endless cycle. Gwyn fucked the world up because of his hubris and nobody can undo it, he deserve the no1 spot honestly
@@daddyvegan9325 come one Seath was far worse. Gwyn was like Hitler, he cared about Germany. Seath was like Joseph Mengele. He only cared about his experiments which were brought upon innocent.
@@daddyvegan9325 Tbf he didn't really know that would happen. Idk Gwyn always felt like a pretty gray character to me even through the lore, I was surprised to see him on the list in all honesty.
@@paschen1791it sort of did, he feared the dark soul and the pygym lords, so he cursed humanity with the dark sign to insure he couldn’t be overrun. He basically did everything he could to insure his age would be permanent, and any would do anything no matter the morals to stop them.
@@vryyyx I mean yeah, but then again he created a prosperous age, it's not so surprising that he'd want to keep it, though the evil part being that he did anything to do so. I don't think he's evil by intention.
I feel like sulyvahn's spot should be replaced by aldrich cause his actions weren't done on his own volition, he was basically being controlled by the abyss within the profaned flame while aldrich on the other hand literally eats children and this was even before he embraced the abyss after seeing it in his dreams
BAD TALKING MY LORD MOHG, THE MIQUELLESTER WILL BE PUNISHED FOR HIS LIES
We all know that the archers from anor londo is evil incarnate
Man were we wrong about mohg, SPOILERS but miquella is the most vile demigod in elden ring not mohg.